The Mirror have claimed that Manchester United have agreed a £26m deal with Sao Paulo to sign Lucas Moura but the manager has denied an agreement has been reached.
“We haven’t reached an agreement for the player,” he said. “We’ve shown an interest but until such time as we get a deal agreed we can’t say he’s our player.”
1. He usually wears shirt number 7 at both his club and also at Brazil’s national team.
2. He started his career at Marcelinho Carioca’s youth academy, and quickly got nicknamed Marcelinho due to supposedly looking like the former Corinthians player. The young star eventually got tired of getting called ‘Marcelinho’ and requested to be called just ‘Lucas’, as Marcelinho Carioca is one of the biggest idols of São Paulo’s arch-rivals Corinthians. He quickly became known as ‘Lucas Moura’ as he started to get called up for Brazil’s national team, where Lucas Leiva from Liverpool was already a regular part of the team.
3. He was part of the São Paulo team that won Copa São Paulo de Juniores, the most prestigious youth tournament in Brazil. His success in that tournament enabled him to be promoted to São Paulo’s senior team.
4. His first big competition at Brazil’s national team was the South American Under 20 Championship in January 2011, which Brazil won. He was one of the key players in that team alongside Neymar.
5. He scored his first international goal in September, in a game against Argentina for the Superclásico de las Américas trophy, where only home-based players were eligible to play.
6. He is arguably the most promising player to come from São Paulo’s academy since Kaká.
7. He is right-footed and is a very versatile player, being able to play as an attacking midfielder and as a right winger, but currently prefers to play as a forward. His main qualities are his speed and his dribbling skills, which help him anticipate and overcome defences, making him an effective forward at São Paulo. as his finishing is also pretty good although could be improved. These qualities and the fact he is relatively strong despite being short could prove useful in more physical leagues such as the English Premier League.
8. Lucas also has good passing skills, but he seldom takes advantage of that ability, preferring to dribble rather than to pass, also annoying teammates and fans alike.
9. Unlike Ganso, for example, he is not an injury prone player and does not get involved in any problems or controversies off the pitch.
10. Once he can improve his mentality on the pitch, he will be set to become one of the top Brazilian players, and will be comparable to Neymar, who already shows maturity on the pitch despite being only 20 years old. But right now he is still behind not only Neymar, but also Oscar, who is a more complete, decisive and consistent player than Lucas.
Read this article in full at By Far The Greatest Team. for even more information on Lucas Moura.
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Nice Facts. Thanks Paulo!
“Unlike Ganso, for example, he is not an injury prone player”.
*Yoda voice*
He will be. He will be…
He born in 13,so I think he’ll take the park s shirt, I watch many brazil league game,and I don’t think Oscar are better then him,due to his strong body and power ,I’m sure he’s better suit the premier league than oscar or neymar ,sorry for my English .
FACT #1
Lucas Moura is still not our player.
Nicely summed up by is agent Vagner Ribeiro:
Ribeiro: “This is just speculation from the English press. All the parties have to agree: the player, the buying club and the seller.” via @SaoPauloNewsEng
Agree the deal and let him come out and shine at unite
Fergie said he wasn’t our player yet.
He deserved to wear our famouse No.7 shirt really. With his speedy pace, terrific dribbling skills, and very good passing abilities, he will no doubt be our best player in 2 years time. Therefore, I reaaly wish SAF will successfully sign him and hand him No.7 shirt. He’s a perfect replacement of Ronaldo, NOT Valencia really.
Hmmm two threads on a player Utd haven’t signed yet,ROM expecting this to happen
Sounds promising. I hope if he does sign then he learns to fulfill his immense gifts under the wise tutelege of Sir Alex. If he works hard at his game then we may have another Ronaldo-esque type of player in the making.
If United also get RvP then we’ve done some nice business this summer who along with Kagawa slots in right away.
Both Powell and Lucas are of course long term acquisitions.
With a strong United youth already being promoted from within to the first steam squad I feel a little better for this coming season.
And it would be hillarious if it didn’t happen wayne.
Fuck me this lad hasn’t signed and hasn’t proven shit already want Tony V to give up 7 fuck off,he doesn’t deserve anything till he proves it and maybe we should wait till he’s signed before worrying about shirt numbers.Tony V deserves the number 7 stop being such a fucking whore
Its very Strange ,as a fan,why don’t expecting it happens???who don’t want this top talent join us???hope he join the rivals?the money?i think its just because of afraid your favorite players s position at the team.just want to know.sorry for my English.
Well said
To clarify, well said, Wayne
Yes I agree ,tony are the owner of the no.7,he’s fully deserve !
We’d look right clowns if this deal doesn’t go through. lol
Not getting my hope high on this till I see him holding up the ‘Red Shirt’
Rd54 Cheers mate. You are spot on with your comment and welcome to it. This site probably needs more fans like you with a fresh positive attitude. Many of us get tired of the press linking us with ever Tom, Dick and Harrinho that comes along. Usually nothing comes of it.
2 years ago it was Wesley Sneijder. Last year it was Wesley Sneijder …. again. Complete with lads claiming he was sighted at Manchester Airport.
We try to come to ROM to find a bit of peace and a bit of real news.
But you are correct, who wouldn’t want a young bright tallent like Lucas.
Keep it up son, your english is fine as far as I am concerned.
Costas
finally made it. How are you doing mate
Reading between the lines good chance the two clubs have agreed a fee,now it’s just a matter of Utd paying off the agent,his dad,his sister,aunt,local church,town needs a new flag pole,oh and of course the player
Thanks fletchtheman ,every time when saw your name I just think of Darren ,really miss him on the pitch.
And I miss something,Lucas s dad was a lifelong united fan.
Correct me if I’m wrong…seems to that the 7 shirt stays with Tony V till he retires from or moves on from the club. Irrespective of who we sign, 7 stays on the back of Tony V
couldn’t agree with Wayne more. Tony V doesn’t deserve number 7? But an unproven Brazilian kid does? On what basis? Cos you’ve seen him do a couple of fancy step-overs on YouTube? Do me a favour Gazzaro
*to me that the 7*
It’s exciting to imagine the team FERGIE is gathering. united would really be terrifying going forward. The manager was not lying when he said he’s placing emphasis on speed. Samba flair beautiful football is coming to united. Governed by the scot from govan
An awesome article.. Splendid
Sorry, i thought people were entitled to their opinions. He doesn’t view valencia as a long term number 7, that’s how he feels.
For now, i feel valencia deserves the number 7. Works hard, humble, efficient are all antonio’s attributes. That still doesn’t mean any brilliant player can’t take the number, FERGIE is not exactly sentimental.
United haven’t signed moura, the suggestion that he should take it doesn’t add up in my view. He’ll need to prove himself worthy of it but any poster is entitled to post what they think.
@Wayne
Zibbie says:
For those who care
http://www.amazon.com/Smoke-Mirrors-Drugs-Politics-Failure/dp/0316084468
@Wayne
Zibbie says:
@Wayne
At 13 I hear my dad and his mentor John Blatnik talk about what they help create in WWII turned into the NSA started a war on drugs so they would have all the $ they needed to bypass the Congress
. He laughed when I said Mr. Blatnic the Washington post said you are the 4th most powerful man in Washington DC and he laughed. Was nice about it, and explained why to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Blatnik
Soon scot will post a thread saying ‘ten things you didn’t want to know about RVP’
One thing I do know about lucas is that he aint our player yet. Why all the hoopla..
@fletch : sarcasm spot on with that comment about rd54′s english mate
No need to argue or get in a tizzy over jersey numbers.
SAF isn’t going to strip Valencia of the number 7, nor should he.
I badly want Lucas in this team and I could give a fuck if he’s running around Old Trafford sporting #69.
Thanks for the info Zibbie
I agree posters are entitled to write what they think,so surely as a poster i’m entitled to respond to said post or doesn’t a blog work like that
Not optimistic of this deal going through to be honest. We don’t have a good track record with South American players anyhow and this kid is entitled to 20 per cent of the transfer fee which is disgusting! If he was signing for City all the fans on here would be calling him a mercenary.
@sao paolo news just tweeted :
Both clubs open to deal. Fee to be agreed. Lucas flattered by interest from united!
That’s the gist anyways. Can’t copy past. Shitty phone
I know this is exciting and what not but what about THAT midfield?! With the exception of Carrick and at times Scholes, the others are average. Anderson is shit, Cleverly is not proven, Giggs is not a CM, and neither is Kagawa. Plus, spending 26M+ on a player who is not guaranteed a first team place seems like a waste of money. Nani, Young and Valencia were all bought for a lot of money. Two wing spots for those three is not even enough, and then to add another expensive signing doesn’t seem like good business.
This women jogs by my place everyday, near the top of a long hill she walks a little and adjusts her women parts. Pulls on her panties from her ass, moves her boobies inside her sport bra. She looks around thinks now one sees her and then she goes at it. A good part of my morning.
@ the truth : valid point. But I think if you add tunni, petrucci to THAT midfield it gives us a lot of hope. Both youngsters have progressed well!!
The deal for Lucas is not done as he focuses on the Olympics
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7928887/Moura-focused-on-Games
I have noticed my mates Cedars and MG like full figured women, here is a young plus size model.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2012/07/23/teesville-plus-size-model-embraces-her-curves-gallery-84229-31453333/
GO LUCAS!!! GIVE ME MOURA !!!!!!!!!!
@zibbie :
certainly not an eyesore
Mancini, Womancini
Valencia doesnt deserve the No 7 jersey? Fuck me he has been class since he signed and its not like he is inheriting striaght from Best, Robson, Cantona, Becks, Ronaldo is he! He is taking it from Michaell Owen!
Anderson is not shit. if anything, he has been unprofessional at times and unfortunate with injuries. Clearly FERGIE has warned him to step this season, he seems fired up to want to prove himself and i can see signs of him hopefully doing that. Cleverly is not the finished article but he has the capabilities to be a top player. Needs to take more authority and impose himself on games. Giggs won’t be seeing much game time this season anyway, scholes too. Younger quality players are in the squad who are ready to solve the supposed problems. FERGIE believe in these players, he won’t make any knee-jerk midfield signings and he certainly won’t buy any ‘hatchet man’ when clearly, abundance of midfield talents are coming through.
Quick summary of Lucas from a Brazillian friend who has followed Sao Paulo his whole life:
“Well, regards Lucas, he is amazing!!!!
Fast, great ball control, key for couter attacks, and is really clutch!!!
A unique player!!!!
Will make Man U Faster in the transition!!!!”
rd54 nice, you type just fine. Post again please.
No smoke without fire..!
I’m really looking forward to seeing him at United..
Please Fergie sign Baines, a CM and The Treble Looooooms Large.!!
Should also have mentioned that my friend is a very tough grader of Brazillian players.
Anderson has a hell of a lot to prove because quite frankly he’s gone backwards since he joined the club and if someone asked me what was his best asset I would struggle to say what it is! He can’t shoot, he can’t pass, he doesn’t score, he doesn’t make goals, he isn’t very quick, he has average control, he can’t head and on top of that he has 2 left feet. He would have been shipped out this summer or last if we weren’t so desperate in the centre of the park.
I don’t want this Theo Wallcott look-alike….I’d rather take Oxlade Chamberlain.
RVP is a smokescreen or this Lucas thing is a smokescreen….we’ll sign 2 more players judging by the games SAF is playing.
I’d like a left back and a fucking centre mid….WTF
Fidgy wants to be radical up front…then bloody play.
Bebe and Macheda up front, supplied by Anderson playing in the trequartista role.
I hope we don’t sign the next Anderson or Diego Foreskin this summer ! Gimme Dickson Etuhu
Giggs12 – i think people associate the number 7 with flamboyance and unpredictability. Valencia is a measured and humble guy, spectacular is probably not consistently expected from the ecuador man, people don’t see him as a fantasy player that cantona or Ronaldo were hence why they keep saying he doesn’t deserve it.
In my view, he does deserve it after his contributions to the team. I think he’ll cherish it and at the end of the day, the manager makes the decisions. I certainly don’t think a player united have not signed/ may not be signed instantly deserves it. Has to arrive first and then prove himself.
@rd54 : didn’t mean any offence mate.
Just wondering – IF UTD sign BOTH RvP and Lucas Moura, what happens to Ashley Young ? Where does he figure in the depth-sheet ?
Joffrey Baratheon
How Dare You?
Those are his finest qualities, if I had two of his left pegs, Hell I’d be the new Leo Messi.
Joking aside, Ando is the best midfielder at Manchester United…on Fifa 12…..when his stats are boosted.
Further Joking aside…..he is funny leave him alone, he puts the fun factor in football and has scored in every penalty shoot out for us. Furthermore, he makes faces at Scezczhny so he’s earned his contract !
I find Tony V very exciting said it before imo Utds best winger,shows up week in week out and makes the team tick,Scholes number 1 out man that’s for sure,don’t have to be flashy to be world class
Tony V deserves the number 7 shirt. At least we know wht he is worth. As for Lucas, he still to prove his worth away from brasil. He looks a good prospect but his price tag will put him under a lot of pressure. When we signed Anderson, I watched videos of him on youtube and was amazed, but what kind of performances he had for us so far. You get the point ?
STR knows something we dont hence the article… so I choose to believe we are set to sign this lad. Looks a bright prospect on youtube. And NO you tube videos are not fake they are clips from actual matches. Only thing you can question is maybe the quality of the opposition that Lucas is terrorising on them videos but anyway all we need to see is talent and the development will come at Carrington.
Hmmm, the video of him illustrates a great prospect. Tricks and flair abound.
The more pressing issue is the South American defense?!?! Jaysus wept, somebody get a fucking foot stuck in.
Clint, I forgot about his face pulling skills! He did that pretty well at the start of last season before getting injured. He does come across as the joker of the team and has a brilliant song dedicated to him. Scoring that penalty in Moscow went some way to justifying his 19 million price tag I guess!
What the hell is this all about we haven’t even agreeded a deal with his club yet never mind him it could all go tits up when and were going to look like right pricks. The gaffer is acting very strange first its talking about van persie now this guy would much prefer if he kept his cards close to his chest like united normaly do? Maybe he is under orders from the parasites in florida to boost season ticket sales and we’ll get some sob story like he wanted too much money or and I hope this is the case he’s very confident of getting both! But its not like sir alex anyway.
Zibbie….
I love my plump woman….chubby just makes ooze
Have you seen Fat Carmella Bing
Boy I’d let her eat me completely.
http://77.243.182.24/ist1-2.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/5/0/3/7/50371/q/P/Q/A/qPQA/carmella%20bing%20bbw.gif
What difference does it make it’s well documented Utd have bids in for both,Sir Alex just confriming rumors
Marcelinho Carioca, I remember him well from when Channel 5 used to show Brazilian football back in the late 90s. He was a free-kick master. Never thought I’d see him mentioned on RoM but there you go!
What we can make out of SAF’s comments is that either something’s very right or something’s very wrong
Dear Joffrey Baratheon
I read this blog for few years are just waiting for you,it’s very first time the people here said about ando so direct like me,thanks for let me know I’m not alone.sorry for my English.
Imran what the fuck does that mean mate
Imran’s a deep thinker…
“He deserved to wear our famouse No.7 shirt really. With his speedy pace, terrific dribbling skills, and very good passing abilities, he will no doubt be our best player in 2 years time”……probably the most ridiculous post I’ve read on this blog!
Probably some thing in between
Well fuck me sideways, I am back……..Afternoon folks.
So yet another thread about this kid whom I know fuck all about………..Make mine an RvP with strawberries and ice cream please
RD54, no need to apologise for your English. I only speak one language so I’m in no position to question anyone on their English! Yes Anderson has been a huge let down since his move to United. He was brought as an attacking midfielder but it took him over 2 years to score his first goal for the club. He has a decent first season at the club but has gone backwards ever since!
Cedars – no can do, but by some coincidence I just came across this picture:
http://www.mrwhippyicecream.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/celebs/paul-scholes-manchester-united-england.jpg
Well, I wish this lad Lucas a disastrous Olympic Games… If he raises his game, for one game or two, or even a couple of minutes, can you imagine the Sao Paolo chairman?? He’ll be asking for gold… and we’ll be back to square one…
Fred
Cheers pal, but the link will not load, all I see is the hair!!
Yes ,I always think a team who can much success is not only about you had how many top players in the team ,more important is reduce your not qualifly players on the pitch.
JT
That’s why any deal needs to be wrapped up by Friday! I heard somewhere that if he isn’t sold by August his cut of the transfer becomes 30% so it would be in Sao Paolo’s interest for a swift resolution. This may be where the mirror got their reduced bid acceptance from?
Yes I also hope Lucas did not perform at the Olympic game,it make the thing go easy.
Fred
Scratch that, its worked now! Great stuff!
So he is another Nani then. Especially looking at number 8.
lol @ 9….he follows at least 100 porn stars on twitter lol
I would do anything for love, but I won’t do that. What is it he wouldn’t do?
I thought number 9 was, unlike Gonzo, Lucas Moura doesn’t have a big nose.
Evening me Willie Will
Slow evening on the Republik
I could share 20 things you probably did not know about TonyBee, but that would be breaking doctor -patient confidentiality
@SirAlex’sSon
Hi pal. Nice to see you here as well.
Evening Reds
- For those wanting to take a break from the Lukas ‘rumor’, check out a good article on De Gea, where he speaks about his new life in england, the food, family, and using lenses
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1126483/man-united%27s-david-de-gea:-%27i-always-had-faith-in-my-ability%27?cc=5901
20 things no one knows about TonyBee????
Is there some sort of waiver form I can sign?
Re: Point #8 – Should this Moura chap and Nani ever line up together (assuming this transfer bullox, err, speculation rings true) poor ol’ Mr. Ambition will need a new rug as surely he’ll have torn his plugs out by full time
jesus I’m sick of listening to some united fans complain about do wee really need van persie, we don’t need moura…fuck me its the same fans who complain about fergie not doin anything in the transfer market and the same fans who slate the glazers for not spending any money and also while I’m at it saying kagawa-son was bought for shirts…….well firstly if u watched him play for dortmund and indeed us against ajax cape town(our best player)u would see he has great ability……van persie is a WORLD CLASS striker who would absolutely make a difference to united as would the qualities of moura also while I’m at it the glazers do actually spend money on united its down to fergie who he does and doesn’t want and if the rvp and moura deals come of then that could be a possible 70 + mill so stop whining in my ear please and go take ur face for a shite while ur at it….there aint no pleasing some ppl…..
Devil310
Get a grip pal and start calling it football, that ‘soccer’ link was good though but the term does my head in…….Football in the States, a game played by men dressed up like frigging aliens and ‘soccer’ is a girls game!!! ha ha ha
Evening mate
ididnotzeeit
Just turn a blind eye mate, it ain’t pretty!!
@Cedars – LOL….mate, I call it football. I was born and raised in South America, so I know better. Believe me, hearing people call it soccer makes me fucking cringe….as well as the guys from Fox SOCCER Channel calling United MAN U.
How do I make a puking smiley face?
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1584162_welcome-to-anfield-manchester-united-ticket-allocation-boosted-for-liverpool-clash
Evening Cedars.
Many have asked me
Why fergie started blabbing on targets.
Honestly, its a mystery. All we have are theories.
Devil310
Ha ha ha……..Not sure about smiley’s mate……..Just wanted to have a dig at American sports and you appeared. Mind you Michael Jordan is a hero of mine!
The term Man U makes me sick, I always associated it with WBA and leeds fans chanting Munich and laughing at our dead…….
He’s better than Oscar, by some distance.
Kagawa’s best friend at united is anderson
Fun facts of the day
A good read:
http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/story/_/id/8191164/manchester-united-glazers-saddled-club-massive-debt-yet-alex-ferguson-continues-support-gabriele-marcotti
Evening Willie
I am having a leeds hate moment if you care to join in
Peanut Butter Jelly Time.
Robin>Batman
I know what will cheer you up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYrqYVialk
I love my plump woman….chubby just makes ooze…ooze over this one then Clint
http://youtu.be/KzM-hK7kmps
He will be a great signing
cue the fat jokes…….
I went over to some bird in a club last night and said, “Is that skirt made out of bacon?”
“Why?” She smiled. “Do you want to rip it off and eat me?”
“No.” I laughed. “It makes you look like a fat fucking pig.”
I do not believe in killing people I dislike, but those sheep shag-en Munich chant en feltchers, I would beat them like a Law abiding citizen would. I was 15 when I heard this, there would be fewer assholes in this world, if they would get a good ass kick-en.
Evening reds around the world,
who is this Lucas Moura? Who is this Van persie?
Cedars – It’s too easy picking on that rabble. We all hate leeds scum! I remember travelling to see United play Arsenal at OT. Got the boat over to Manchester. Anyway, walking along minding my own business and this leeds fan walks by and he mutters under his breath, scum lol. Should have threw the cunt overboard!
Hi guys you know one thing zidane would have been a New castle player in 1996 as he wanted a move away from his club bordeaux only in a deal around 1.2 mil pounds only not to be done because of new castle saying’he isn’t a premier league material ‘
Persie and the croatian rodent want out of their clubs and go on strike…Berbatov wants out of united and goes and plays in meaningless friendlies without any complaints…just shows the class of the man.
Papii, I should know better, than ones gonna stick with me for some time. Just a little shook. Almost like you climb up that 1st big hill of the roller coaster, afraid, sickened and excited all at once! A wee bit big for my choice.
I like big buts I can not lie, just not that big Papii
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reTx5sqvVJ4&feature=related
We are just one of those teams that you see now and then
We often score 6 but we seldom score 10
We’ll beat em at home and we’ll beat away
We’ll kill any bastard that gets in our way
Weee ARE the pride of all Europe the cock of the North
We hate the scousers and cockneys of course AND leeds
We are the Manchester boys na na na na
UNITED UNITED UNITED
Willie
I would have smacked him, its not a crime to break the jaw of a leeds fan by the way
What a blog
What a team
What a Club
What a gaffer, cooler the Clint Eastwood, the Vince Lombardi of our time.
Lol
Zibbie,
you have hit the peak of high!!
what a Zib,
what a fan.
what a sailor.,.
##
Che Cedara,
You have an Email waiting friend,
tomorrow ROM..
Cheers
Good night
United’s flag is deepest RED
It shrouded all our Munich dead
Before their limbs grew stiff and cold their heart’s blood dyed its every fold
Then raise United’s banner high
Beneath its shade we will live and die
So keep the faith and never fear
We’ll keep the RED flag flying high
We”ll never die we’ll NEVER die
Cos Man UTD never die
that bird i just put the link up for IS Lucas Moura’s new love interest…..
fucking hell …….if she is …….he’ll have a short career
This theory is going to rock the foundations of RoM. A theory as to why Sir Alex has said United are interested in Lucas and RVP!! I’m not sure you’re all ready for a theory so ground breaking… But here goes. What if Sir Alex was asked the question and he… And here’s the kicker…. He just told the truth. That we’re interested in Lucas and RVP! I know I know… Mental!
I’m glad I grew up in a time fighting, was no crime
Someone gets out of line, smacked up side the head
Sport fighting nights at the local watering hole
Young roosters strutting their stuff
Like a wolf-pack, finding their spot
I hit a guy so hard once, a girl over 20 feet away got hit by his snot.
No law suits and warrants, just boys being boys.
To look a ass in the eyes, have then though the first punch and send’em for a ride.
That hopeless, helpless look of bewildered fear, I lap that up like a kitten and cream.
An old broken down buck now, I have only a good 11 seconds now.
Battling is a young mans game, at times I find I still can not re frame
From calling an ass, a ass. No hands fly, everyone feels better he has been called out.
I hate fucking loud mouth fucks who make no scene, and impose themselves on others.
In school I hated bullies, so much they made me one.
For I bullied the bullies.
I wrestled and fought for money on construction sites, but in life’s every day passing. Only 6 adult fights, I believe and know how to defuse the situation before the boiling point.
As a big kid I hated to get my way because I was big, or they were scared just because I was big. Fight me with words, I’m good at that as well.
Rant, Rant, Rant of a bull way past prime.
Off topic, just got back from watching this…
http://www.fhm.com/imgs/631/400/0/original/standard/83390/anne-hathaway-catwoman-sexy-the-dark-knight-rises.jpgx
The film wasn’t bad either..:)
Personally, I don’t see Moura or RVP coming to UTD since we have been down this road way too many times (Read Ozil and Sneijder saga). The good news is that Vida is back in full training.
310
: mr green : no spaces=
: cool : no spaces
Anne Thataway? Smells fishy….
ashwinred – what a disgrace, seeing that presenter call scholes and giggs guys in wheelchairs last season, talk about a guy not watching a dime of united last season
Utd4life – if the boss says they want to sign a player, then there is a high chance we will sign the player.
1878 I just lost 1/2 a lung, croatian rodent
Willie, Sushi for zibbie please, I have the wazabi.
fitb. Maybe there is a slight chance of these deals going through since the Gaffer has openly admitted that UTD have expressed an interest in these 2 players unlike the Ozil and Sneijder saga when SAF kept mum about it. So yes, maybe it could happen but I still think it is highly unlikely.
@zibbie
mrgreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnb2vaiMY9E&feature=related
even the BBC are at it…. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18953819
I failed horribly in that attempt of a green smiley face
Smiley conundrum!
I see her in interviews almost seems like all the fame has little effect on who she is.
Ice cream is so good their must be 1437 flavors and i like all but 3.
Women the same This flavor that Ann is, for one full year all my ice cream choices would be her. My French Vanilla.
A clue to life. People choice of I cream flavors hands down Vanilla, they fav flav. Buy 6x,s more then chocolaty stuff. And yet this Orchid sex bean that even is a flavor in chocolate they think of vanilla as PLAIN, bland, oh that vanilla. Not as most popular, or best tasting beautiful sexy Orchid queen of the flowers bean. Phallic enough.
Vanilla=Plain in this world, not mine. Liquid bliss for bakers. And pancakes and french toast.
Devil310
You are worst than TonyBee with smiley’s…….We use him as measure cause he’s daft as fuck
People who claim they are not. Are
People I don’t mean to. Do.
i gotta be a thick daft cunt Cedars…cos i like you….. xx
310 do not give up hit 20 post if need be. I took 4 fucking try’s for this dyslexic ass.
:<3:
Cedars at 19.26
That is a Giggs12 k stand favourite, second half its a bit flat until the Burberry man belts this little number out.
Followed by
Oh me lads you should have seen us coming
The fastest team in the land you should have seen is running.
All the lads and lasses smiled upon their faces
Walking down the Warwick road to see Matt Busby’ aces
fuck it …still experimenting with different smileys
: before the mrgreen an after as well :
type the collen with mrgreen then another colan the double period thing :::::::: before mrgreen and after
From the banks of the river irwell
To the shores of Sicily
We will fight fight for United
To we win that football league
To hell with Liverpool
To hell with man city THEIR SHIT
We will fight fight fight for United
Until we win that football league
tb try
:::::::::::::::cool::::::::::::::::: just one double period thing.
FUCK YES!!!
Eat that CheCedara!
LOL
310!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are the 2 I know, there lots!!!!!!!!!
Love you too TonyBee, always have………You crack the fuck out of me mate
I’ve never been this proud of my internet skills since I discovered free porn
I’m 50 and got It come on Tree pick one , two like I did.
When their playing in your town
Get yourself to that football ground
Take a lesson you will see
Football taught by matt Busby
Oh Manchester, Manchester United
A bunch of bouncing Busby babes
They deserve to knighted
When ever their playing in you town
Get yourself to that football ground
Take a lesson you will see football taught by matt Busby
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Giggs12 at 20:18
Classic pal
Devil310
So you’re not that thick after all! TonyBee just lost a mate!! ha ha ha
Me 2 310!! Like I was 5 last week!!!
On that subject try madthums, just saying.
DON’T JUDGE ME WE ALL SPANK OUR MONKEYS, if you don’t please get help. There are many qualified sex therapist in lager metropolitan areas.
A bunch of bouncing Busby Babes………Fucking love that one
Fuck sake sort it out AnthonyBee!
I’m going for a third, inspired by 310
Jip jaap stam
He’s a big dutch man
Get past him if you fucking can
Try a little trick and he’ll make you look a dick
Jip jaap, jaap stam
United! United! United! United! United! United! United!
A forth
Hahaha….hey, I like TonyB’s never say die attitude. A true Red after all.
Willie i know all those fuckers…just searching for new ones on the net
:1049:
Hey Wolfie just in time for my 5th smiley attempt. drum rolllll
damn that would have been a good one…..
united needs lucas nd van persie badly. We nid themm 2 be unstopable. Uuuupppp uunniitteedd
Giggs12 on a roll…………Keep em coming mate
United United United
#!) Tony Be on my team any time, Like him and Holmes.
ps?
John Holmes that is. Hung like a small horse. Bigger then a donkey.
icon text text full text icon full text
8-O 
8-) 
They’ve got 54 players that are no bloody good, they’ve got 54 players that are no bloody good, 54 players that are no bloody good……oh city are a massive club!
Tree I love those songs I do not know, GO ROONEY!
ha ha ha ha
My Dick
For you and Jimmy James………….ROONEY ROONEY ROONEY
For Willie and the rest of us sane folk………..Go Sir Alex
Rar rar rar have you heard the latest
Rar Rar Rar united are the greatest
Rar Rar Rar I hope you all agree
Manchester united are the team for me
U N I T E D Manchester uniter are the team for me
They’ve got the tallest floodlights in the football league, they’ve got the tallest floodlights in the football league, tallest floodlights in the football league, oh city are a massive club!
Tony is a Tiger.
Hey Tony, know why here in the States we have so many Italians called Tony?
They say back at the turn of the last century, all the hunger in Italy and hope for a better life, like my Grandma at 12 as baggage almost sailed to America and told my father at the docks, see saw them stamp all the little boys , TO NY.
Ryan Giggs Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing
Ryan Giggs Ryan Giggs
Running down the wing
Feared by the blues
Loved by the reds
Ryan Giggs Ryan Giggs
TonyBee,
you are a fucking legend of smiley
you smiley starved punk
Zibbie, looks like you have passed the smiley test, now you are the mentor for TonyBee and you got 2 days to teach the smiley legend
Good night mate,
Good night reds..
Awesome place.
Coma coma coma coma coma United Road, United Road, United roooooooad!!
They’ve no tomato ketchup in the council house
They’ve no tomato ketchup in the council house
Oh city are a massive club
TonyBee,
why dont you try these smiley tests on some old threads so that you have your privacy,
off to bed now..cheers
Der der der der racist bastard
Der der der der racist bastard
Copy righted to Giggs 12 of course!
RoM rehab for MUFC junkies. Pre-seasons games have helped my withdrawal pain, like methadone from the free clinic.
Ralphy ralphy ralphy ralphy ralphy
Ralphy ralphy ralphy ralphy Milne
A ralphy Milne, a ralphy Milne
For all RoM MUFC junkies, this helps me through the dark days of summer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmVAWKfJ4Go
We’ll do what we waaaant, we’ll do what weeee waaaant, we’re man united, we’ll do what we want!!!
Who the fuck are man united, who the fuck are man united, who the fuck are man united… As the reds go marching on on on!!!!!
Nice one Robbo
nice one son
nice one Robbo
lets have another one
Fucking get it you RED fuckers
Oh every single one of us
Loves Alex Ferguson sir Alex Ferguson
Oh every single one of us loveeees
Alllllllexxxxxxxx Feeeeeeergusssson
In the Liverpool slums, in the Liverpool slums, they look in the dustbins for something to eat, they find a dead rat and they think it’s a treat, in the Liverpool slums!!
I really need to start learning this songs. I know most of these. James was helping me out in my last visit, though. But he was signing some shit I hadn’t heard before
Fuck off city! Fuck off city! Fuck off city! Fuck off city! Fuck off city!
If you are from Manchester , Your sure to be a blue
Salford, Ancoats, moston, collyhurst to.
If you believe that then, your sure to be a fool
Coz in this town of Manchester, man united rule
Tra la la la we all hate city
Getting all mushy with these chants here!
United United United
We all hate Leeds SCUM, We all hate Leeds SCUM, We all hate Leeds SCUM, We all hate Leeds SCUM…. Repeat!!
Oh Franky Franky, Franky Franky Stapleton
My 1st generation American Italian father was never happier , over 2 things.
1)Any of his four sons in a uniform, my 2 older brother in Military academy ones, my younger brother in a real Army one. Made them wear them and have the entire family go out to eat.
2) Blisters on our hands in the spring from concrete work.
My fucking high schools football slogan was
PAIN IS GOOD!
That’s for cedars.
For Zibbie and Jimmy James?
I saw my mate the other day, says he seen the white pele, I asked who is he, he’s goes by the name of Wayne Rooney!
Wayne Rooney, Wayne Rooney, he goes by the name of Wayne Rooney!
We all hate leeds scum, we all hate leeds scum, we all hate leeds scum, we all hate leeds scum….
Repeat again
The fuck off city one is hard to beat!!!!
Nemanya whooooa, Nemanya whooooa, he comes from Serbia, he’ll fuckin murder ya…Nemanya whooooa!
FUCK OFF CITY,
FUCK OFF CITY,
FUCK OFF CITY,
FUCK OFF CITY,
FUCK OFF CITY,
Simple, short straight to the point.
ACE
Accurate
Concise
Effective.
Let’s all laugh ay city
Let’s all laugh at city
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
oooo then MK shows with a contender!
Who’s that twat from Argentina, who’s that money grabbing whore. Carlos Tevez is his name and he hasn’t got a brain and he won’t be winning trophies anymore! CUNT!!
We love UNITED we do, we love UNITED we do, we love UNITED we do ohhhhhhhhhh UNITED we love you
UNITED UNITED UNITED
Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put the scousers on the top, put the city in the middle
And burn the fuckin lot!!
Fucking hell, so hyped up right now!
We all hate leeds scum! We all hate leeds scum! We all hate leeds scum! We all hate leeds scum!
United united united
Willie, a one line genius of sorts, scolded back when, when his post started getting longer.
ACE Willie Wolf. Forget the Red Baron Snoopy, there’s a new Ace in town.
Willie is both LeRoy Brown and Slim at the same time in this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWnMbQeWlg
Willie Wolf for LeRoy Brown and Will for Slim.
One of my personal favourites….
My old man, said be a city fan and I said fuck off, you’re a cunt! You’re a cunt! I’d rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it, than be a city fan for just one minute. With hatchets and hammers, stanley knives and spanners, we’ll show those city bastards how to fight, how to fight! Oh I’d rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it, than be a city fan!!! ALL TOGEATHER NOW!!!!
BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s K stand Cedars that is K stand.
Willie do you go the games? Where do you sit?
ONE DAY TO DINK IN A MANCHESTER PUB, WALK AND TUBE TO OLD TRAFFORD, TO SING, TO BELIEVE!
I’d rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it…………….
Mike
Do you mean….I said bollocks your a cunt, your a cunt
Haha!!! Ive just jumped off the setee and banged out the my old man said be a city fan song….. Mrs thinks im nuts! K stand will be jumping next season!!
For Giggs 12
K stand barmy army K stand barmy army
Keano’s fucking magic
He wears a magic hat
And when he saw Old Trafford
He said I fancy that
He didn’t signed for Arsenal
Or Blackburn coz their shite
He signed for Man United coz their fucking dynamite.
Just thought I’d get involved
Giggs12
I’ve always said fuck off!!! Cossy pulls me up on it every game but I can’t change it now, it’s ingrained in me!
Forget the one about ‘in you Liverpool slums’ Can some one post it?
@Cynegeticus: ‘Lance!’ now reporting that #MUFC will make a final offer of €40m for L.Moura & offer him a 5-year contract. They think SPFC may accept it.
Mikekelly12 – I would sleep with a man and woman at the same time, before supporting shitty
MK12
My lady as well, she know I’m gone.
Have 2 sisters, both have masters in Education and teach, live next to each other. One typical women’s disinterest in sports, the other has season tickets to our Iowa Hawkeyes University of Iowa football team, goes wacko with her other female friends! I go with them for 2 3 games a year, fucking TV pushes there games up to 11 am, fuck have to start tailgating by 7!!!!
Bring on next season fucking come on
Willie, cedars, mike, Mancdub
Great bounce fellas that was like Blackburn away last year.
FITB for some no punishment in there. In Vegas, that’s a about $500 an hour
Zibbie
Love tailgating!!! Last time was in San Diego before a San Diego Chargers v NY Jets game!!
FITB
Supporting that shite is just not an option. I’d rather rub poodle shit in my eyes and snort cat shit!!
This artcle is so funny…he is not our player yet and maybe even wont be…even if i would like him to come to United…wich one is better Lucas or OScar…time will tell…but i think they both are great players, it is just will they fit in our way of football or not
One of the best nights on RoM for ages……..Great United spirit…..
Have to piss off before I get punched in the face! Night all
MK12 thanks, last tango, as Wayne said on top of any fee there is the Agent, cousins, friends, the kids barber, childhood gaffer ect. I believe Lucas wants MUFC and MUFC wants Lucas and some agent fucking around and to many hands out For SAF liking. So to keep with the times as a modern Gaffer he spoke out in the press to let the lad know someone is fucking with you here! Bam he straighten them out, MUFC offers a little more they save face in San Palo , they do not need the money, Brazil is booming, big TV contract, new Stadiums, The WC coming. So 25 mill just will not due, 32 will be fine.
Giggs12 – Don’t get over as much as I’d love too mate. One reason, or another. Last game was Hull at OT in 09. 4 3, it ended. In the Stretty!
Sweet Dreams Tree!
Tailgating is an Industry here in the US, I lived in San Diego from 85 to 90 and saw many games there, they held a super bowl there my 1st year, never went. Tailgating is half the fun!
Clint RVP and Lucas are smokescreen that we can buy Baines
Asked if he was ever interested in Drogba joining the Red Devils, Sir Alex said: “I think that the decision was his anyway because he said he was going to leave Chelsea and not play in the English league – that eliminated everyone. I could have been.”
http://www.supersport.com/football/barclays-premier-league/news/120723/Drogba_could_have_been_Fergie_target
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You look in the dustbin for something to eat
You find a dead rat and you think it’s a treat
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You shit on the carpet, you piss in the bath
You finger your Nan, and think it’s a laugh
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
You speak in an accent exceedingly rare
You wear a pink tracksuit and have curly hair
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
In your Liverpool slums
Your mum’s on the game and your dad’s in the nick
You can’t get a job ‘cos you’re too fucking thick
In your Liverpool slums
Just for cedars.
Willie
Sound mate, if you ever need tickets mate give me a shout
Cheers Jimmy James! Had to come back for that one! Brilliant
Giggs12 – Cheers mate.
Way off topic.
The Royal & Ancient (R&A) organisers gave a mixed reaction to the sight of Manchester City footballer Carlos Tevez caddying for fellow Argentine Andres Romero in the final round of the Open Championship.
“I think we may need to look at this particular case,” R&A championship committee chairman Jim McArthur told reporters on Monday. “The strange thing for me was he never put the bag down so when he was standing on the green he was carrying the bag all over the place. It’s just absolute madness.”
Giggs12
Aahhh Blackburn away!! Fucking epic!!! Just a shame it ultimately amounted to nothing, but what a night!!
just waded through posts from full figured lady pictures,jokes,chant posts,one with just the little heads,overall nonsense chatter,then the very last post Way off topic lol
According lancenet.com, UTD are preparing a bid of 31 million, which is slightly over Sao Paulo’s 30 million evaluation of the player.By rejecting UTD’s earlier bids,the president seems to have caused a rift between himself and the board members, who want him to sell Lucas so that the club will balance their books.
According to lancenet.com,this bid,apparently, will United’s last and they will not go any higher.
http://www.lancenet.com.br/sao-paulo/Manchester-oferecer-milhoes-Lucas-Paulo_0_742125898.html
Erm think that link is in Portugese so i’ll just take your word for it.Doesn’t make any sense why Utd will offer 31mill when San Paulo want’s 30mill
10 things you probably didn’t know about MG
1. Is writing two screenplays simultaneously entitled The Tick Tock Man and The Long Walk Home
2. Thinks The Dark Knight Rises is an incredible film – any chance of writing the next one
3. Believes Good and Evil exists in equality
4. Thinks Cedars is the older brother he never had
5. Believes the ROM to be extended family and Watson as official sidekick
6. Thinks SAF has a master plan for this season
7. Believes food to be an integral part of life
8. Loves sitting under a tree on a sunny day with the beautiful breeze blowing through
9. Thinks Melbourne is incredible
10. United are going to win the treble – you heard it here first
Wayne
I’m completely lost with this transfer now. The price has gone up twice, down once then the highest yet this evening. I can see why Sao Paolo might reduce their asking price as their percentage reduces on 1st August so a slight drop for a quick sale would make sense. But to hang on for a higher price when no other club appears to be bidding seems a bit strange?
Whaaaaaaaat a friend we have in Jesusss….
Lance Pretty much pasted together bull if you ask me, no quotes equals nothing new. Probably a good bet that any new offer will be for €40-41M Euros or about £30-32M
Here is a translation of the Lance.net piece from the portuguess
Manchester can offer $ 99 million to take Luke’s St. Paul
After negative Juvenal Juvencio, Englishmen can go back to Brazil in the coming days for final offer by 19-year Luke is with the Brazilian National Team in preparation for the Olympics
After denying the Sao Paulo offering of 38 million euros ($ 94 million) of Manchester United by Lucas last week, the British promise new attack in the coming days. The values are not very different and would reach a maximum of 40 million euros ($ 99 million). It would be the last chance to tell the young age of 19.
With the new attempt, the trend is that Juvenal accepted the proposal, since it would be R $ 79.2 million, in what dreams of receiving. Lucas, who owns 20% of the ownership rights to the end of this month (go to 30% from August), would get the rest.
After you hit the Tricolor, Manchester would still have to talk with Wagner Ribeiro, manager of the player, and Jorge Rodriguez, father of Luke. This part would not be obstacle, since the British are already aware of what the two hope. The São Paulo fan would win more than three times the current salary (£ 130,000) and bond of five years. In addition, receive a place for family, who would go with him to Manchester, live in England. This last year the 7 shirt is now studying English.
http://www.lancenet.com.br/sao-paulo/Manchester-oferecer-milhoes-Lucas-Paulo_0_742125898.html
Mikekelly12,i’m the same mate a lot of bullshit flying around,today though it was the agent who came out and said the reports weren’t true don’t think San Paulo did so i’m wondering if the 2 clubs have agreed to something in principle and now it’s down to personel terms.Think the deal is very close to happening and it’s fucking nice for once not to have Real and City sniffing around
Wayne
If it’s going to happen it’ll have to be this week. Sir Alex will want it sorted before his stock rises at the Olympics and Sao Paulo will want it sorted before August 1st.
MG – I saw the dark knight rises, as a gigantic fan of nolan, and his work with the batman films, rises did not give me that impactfull feeling that BB and TDK gave me. I give TDKR an 8/10
@wayne,@FletchTHEMAN
imoho…The article makes sense.Sao Paulo stood firm on their 30 million pounds evaluation of Lucas.
Basically they were saying,if want to talk about Lucas,meet our evaluation.
By allegedly bidding a million higher,UTD have exceeded the SP’s evaluation of Lucas.SP will now give UTD permission to “speak” to the player and agree personal terms.
I didn’t buy into the Mirror’s article which about 26 million which was lower that the evaluation of the player when SP,inversely, had an opposite “take or leave it” stance.
Their president keep talking about their valuation of the player so basically,he was saying its 30 million or nothing and we are not budging.
I also didn’t buy into the Brazilian clubs don’t need the money argument because,let’s face it,most football clubs are deep in some form of debt and 30 million will go a long way in balancing the books.
If United does make another bid,SP will sell.
james21
Ive known of this song for quite some time but every time Ive been to OT never heard it sung. Is there a youtube video where I can hear it sung or if you know the tune to sing it to could you please tell me mate.
@walsh_i: http://t.co/BXhCb0dJ ‘Mancini demands club make a serious bid for Van Persie, or I’M OFF!’ (Mirror) #AFC #MCFC
TonyBee – I fapped away at that video straightaway
Mara – Baines is old news, I hear we want Liverpool legend Paul Konchesky
It is the mirror so “pinch of salt” but if it’s true it’s like a spoilt bastard kid who has everything but still wants that new power ranger that’s not even on the shelves yet! Proper cunt!
Mikekelly12 lol that one is hard to believe
Way off tropic
http://wikitravel.org/en/North_Pole
A comment by a United fan on sky sports on RVP:
kaaza says July 23, 2012 4:52pm
There is NO doubt in my mind he would be an amazing signing, a talisman, a ‘Cantona’ if you will. Between him and Rooney they scored more goals than most teams did. It would mean rotation, fresh legs, healthy competition for places and unstoppable striker list of Rooney, Welbeck, Van Persie and Hernandez. Link those with the Newcomers and existing excellence at Man U and we won’t be talking about Dropping out of europe or goal difference at the end of this season let me tell you.
Cantona?
Healthy Rotation? Not sure if Berba, Tevez,Forlan,Smith,Saha,Ruud Van Nistlerooy can vouch for this.
Link those with the newcomers? I think this guy meant Kagawa and Moura !
Existing Exellence?
Man.U ?
Avoid ” Dropping out of europe or goal difference at the end of this season”? That pretty much wouldn’t ever happen again anyway….the GD year was a fluke !
Anyways I found the comment funny…anybody else get poops out of it ?
I like the break down, seems good.
I dont know but I have feeling from SAF words that we are very close to sign him/ Lucas…
Want to talk about the king of off topic, my other posters name
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110114220156AAVZgCU
Seems like a lot of money for an unproven kid. I don’t like this TBH. Players like Ozil, Silva were much cheaper and our last Brasilian didn’t end up that well either.
Napstar, My point was that there was nothing that indicates that this wasn’t a guess by these lads.
I really do dispare at the ability of fans to completely loose all sense of perspective and shout about bull that turns into a lie or half truth minutes later.
The Mirror article wasn’t even dry before Fergie called them liars. I’ll bet that stings.
Why repeat an post that has no evidence of factual content?
Especially in a case where there are multiple owners, a family, with seemingly higher authority than either the play or his agent.
Folks need to sit down and gain perspective. I can be as excited as the next lad. But I don’t see how it does me, or the readers of ROM any favors to get a rep as blowhard.
I think you will find that all my reposts are of articles that claim a direct quote from one of the key elements involved. If folks would stick to even that, we would have far less hysteria on this site.
One more thing, we have been following this story for what 6-8 days. Name me one where Lance.net has been shown correct. Answer: naught! Half the posts people are following can’t even do maths correctly between Euros, Pounds or brazilian ‘Reals’ $R.
Facts in apparent play:
-Fergie and Sao Paulo have confirmed that united are interested in Lucas Moura
-Sao Paulo have confirmed several bids, but also said that none have met their valuation of €41M (approx £32M, or approx $R99)
-All parties (Fergie, SaoPauloFC, and the players agent) have said no deal has been agreed.
-The agent Vagner Ribeiro, has said on a couple of occasions that the player is committed to the Brazil olympic effort and suggested no signature was likely until after (thought that doesn’t seem set in stone).
Facts directly denied:
– All aspects of the Mirror article claiming a £26M deal have been denied by Ferguson, the club and the agent.
– All claims that any deal is done have been denied as of today by all 3 parties as well.
So my question, In an atmosphere when everyone is talking. Why are we spending 5 seconds on an article with not a single quote?
If 37.91642% of all readers do not understand my angle even when I am on, topic I win king of off topic.
SAF only acted like he wanted all those players so barca, shity, real and celski had full rosters so now his true targets of Kagawa and Lucas are secure. BRILLIANT! !!
Clint-Iamyourpapii
Depends what your getting out of it.
If your laughing at the content I’d tend to agree. Anyone who thinks van Persie wouldnt be anything more than a quick fix allbeit possibly (if he stay fit) an interesting partnership, is bolocked in the head.
If its due to the language used and his no english way of writing english, shite its better than what I see coming out of England at the moment.
Fletch, hence the name silly season.
Silly season, full of disinformation.
Tea leave, between lines. The reader of bones.
Stupid is as stupid does.
The first part is correct Goatina…….
I wish I could greet such speculation with this sort of optimism, however I just wallow in despair as our inability to sign my Lerighton Baines and Dickson Etuhu continues.
Fletch – Lets just wait and see what happens over the next week. My theory is United are close to agreeing some sort of deal for Moura. It’s complicated. Everyone involved will want their share. I don’t pay much attention to twitter rumours, unless it’s an official twitter account I trust. Too many fake cunts out there spreading nonsense.
I’m not to spreed a rumor, but did you hear about the farm animal fucker, a horny man from Leeds.
Hello kitty!
So we took a happy pill today, you don’t understand it, think were foolish, so I do not give a fuck, once you eat the happy pill it takes up to 30 hours to wear off.
SAF talk all the time of players.
I have never let, grumpy tight ass people from keeping me from dancing in public.
Those same guys lady’s are not so dry humping my leg an hour and 3 cocktails latter.
It might start out dry, if done right it finish wet for both participant’s.
Dry humping
I taught I saw a puddy cat.
People who strike out at what they do not understand, some times must be stuck down.
Soft kitty!
In debate, study both pro and con as you were to win that argument. In the ascertainment of all that information, the truth reveals itself. Closed mind of predetermined answers, never see what is there.
Start from the beginning.
I love watching her walk up those steps, girls like her all over the Midwest Wolf. Her ass is sublime.
copy write that 23:58
Harlem Nights an OK movie with a line I still recall, paraphrase it has been 20 plus years, that’s some good pussy make a man change religions.
Interesting if United do push through a deal for Moura, where he plays?
DDG
Jones Rio Vidic Evra
Moura Carrick Clevs Young
Rooney Welbeck. Could play that formation at home. Not sure away, though.
Linde
Rafael Rio Vidic Evra
Carrick Scholes
Moura Kagawa Nani
Rooney.
Lots of options! I do think Valencia is nailed on for the right hand side. Just speculating…
Lucas Moura will be Unveiled as a United player on 3rd August
@FletchTHEMAN
Well said..I was merely commenting on the speculation sharing what my opinion was Moura’s transfer and my opinion was that the speculation made sense once the valuation has been and if personal terms are agreed(yes,a lot maybes),I don’t see any reason why the deal won’t be done.
SP is angling for more $$ and want this done as soon as possible because Lucas ownership righst will increase in August.So like I said, SP stance is…. meet our evaluation and we’ll have a deal,which has been the stumbling block all along and if UTD does,all fine and dandy and if not we turn our attentions elsewhere.
Yes, nothing has been done yet and SAF likes to keep transfer dealings under wraps until it’s done(case and point Hernandez)
All parties are trying to keep this transfer under wraps until its done.
Again..it was an opinion..
papii – along with Bane? Muzzled!
napstar, that is an interesting point that has been floated. That United will have to pay 4M more after August 1. But there is also a rumor that Lucas is waving a 20% signing fee, which would stand to loose him €8M. No one is that stup….. er daft.
Speculation: take a look at what £130k/ week means over a 5 year contract.
£130,000/ wk x 52 week
£6,760,000/ yr
£33,800,000 over 5 years
If you want Moura, best stop complaining and buy that family a nice season ticket. Oi me?!
Kind of gives you perspective on why Danny Welbeck might be wondering why he can’t get his £60,000/ wk done/
Willie, 4-6 In CR7 Rooney’s first year at that age 15-20 games out wide for the most part, I believe he might grab and earn more, not being funny a 6 with TV7 anchored out on the right, then a rotating 5.
With overlapping FB’S and a cb run at times to just past mid field. Tilting the field in a MUFC favor.
Willie – Bane is a done deal mate ! Until Everton sign his replacement ,we won;t get to unveil Banes as official No.2 – Manchester City’s Reckoning !
Rafa and Lucas in England for the Oly knowing they will play for the world largest sporting club while chasing the worlds most successful country in the WC 1st Oly title, good to be them. I think I getting the new Lamborghini and new X-Box.
The 3rd, a long way in silly season, the Bane of MUFC junkies.
Wolf Bane
We all have favorite player, there has been 58 games a year for a big club, 5 attacking positions should have 10 12 competing at one of the worlds top clubs. If new comers takes their mins, people get testy, cool. But up of shut up. Some on last chance? Some young only need fringe games and exposure. Then like SAF he gives a 18 yr old a chance. Some young ones perform. They get more mins, maybe your favorite player. So I like Blabla the other blah blah sucks. This blows my mind. Celerbrate MUFC’S Pull . Kagawa wanted by many, got word out forget it, went to MUFC and met the boss. We sign him.
Lucas Real looked Inter sends flowers, screams under his window, he says I want MUFC. FUCK any who complain put Tobascco sauce in your eye.
Zibbie – Rafael and Moura on the right for club and country.
Night Reds.
Zibbie buddy you’re babbling again…
Sometimes, there needs to be a post count restriction on some of these threads. The amount of verbal diarrhea typed out just makes catching up on a thread too fucking hard.
@FletchTHEMAN
You are right about Danny.imoho..i think he deserves he the 60k/week contract but United is a business and maybe they have other ideas.
On another note,this article talks compares debt of manchester united,barca ,real et al..it’s an intresting read.Might change your perspective on our debt
http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/04/truth-about-debt-at-barcelona-and-real.html
I’m Zibbie from modern day Babylon (Babble ON) here on the banks of the modern day Euphrates. Land of milk and honey. Soil so fertile and black. In the heart of the Mississippi water shed, where in 100 3 billion people in Glacial supplied rivers dry up, world kayos. Spreads, whats left will have the best chance in the Upper Midwest.
100 years.
I asked the wise man , when is dinner ready? His replied when it is done.
I then asked the wise man. How do you know when it is done? His reply When it is ready.
Zibbie pls shut the fuck up and talk in the mirror, wish you were still banned, because I you people don’t want to come on this blog anymore, wtf do you talk about half the times???
I wonder if we can simply call him “Lucas” rather than Lucas Moura?
I’m sure nobody’s gonna confuse him with that useless, sack-of-shit, ass hat from Liverpool.
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Wrong Lucas Leiva is the sort of player Manchester United is crying out for. Hugely talented player that took a long time to adjust then turned from Villain to Hero within 18 months.
Sadly Injury struck the lad.
I’d rather have Lucas Leiva than Theo Lucas Leiva Wallcott.
http://oldtraffordbr.com/transferencias-e-especulacoes/exclusivo-tudo-certo-entre-united-lucas-e-wagner-ribeiro/
United Brazilian Web site saying its done and closed… the sources are links close to lucas and his agent. Whats left? Sao paulo ‘yes’.
Cheers,
Ygor
Got my first United jersey this evening. Too happy/excited to do anything right now. I now know how the players feel when pulling on that shirt.
Such a beautiful shirt:)
OK I played with my calculator. 5 offensive or attaching positions in most formations.
4 strikers 6 attacking mf type.= 10 players
MUFC plays 58 games a year over 5 years or so.
58 x 5= 290
290 divide by 10 players= 29 games per year, SAF rotation policy played 3 guys over 30 games last year, Rooney, Evra and Carrick. we good. Let them fight and push and make each other better. The non MUFC will fade. Greats will be made with a few more legends and maybe just another icon or 2.
Vivek, cool
shirt then space and the
Thanks, Zibbie. ‘Relentless’ is what is stated behind the club’s badge. This is what we always are and will always be.
Get the title back from City this season.
Morning all
What an evening on the blog, had me all pumped up with all those chants………Just heard on the news that Berba might be on his way to Qatar?
MG
Thanks a lot my friend, that was a very touching comment mate……
Vendem logo antes que os caras descobrem que ele e forminha e vaca brava!!!! =))
My translation on the post at 06:11
Sell him before they Discover that he’s greedy
And mad cow
some of sao paulo Fans reactions after the news that lucas is wanted by united
Don’t know if it was posted already, but what a legend:
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/premiership/eric-cantona-kung-fu-kicked-coffee-table-after-manchester-united-lost-league-16188570.html
Costas
Morning mate, not seen that before………Just like the King to react that way…..LEGEND indeed
Read a few months ago about him saying that his lash out at that cunt at Crystal Palace was a good thing for football! How can anyone not love this man?
Morning Cedars. Honestly, I didn’t think he was still so passionate about United. You often hear about how much our current players love the club and I am sure they do in their own way. But I doubt any of them felt so frustrated that day. I can’t disagree with him about his kung fu kick. Too bad he wasn’t around when Suarez abused Evra.
Costas
I often think about that mate, the great man has a passion for United which rivals most of us fans….He adored his time at the club, even starred in a movie about United fans for fucks sake!
As for the racist cunt Suarez, imagine if Keane, Robbo and Cantona all squared up to him? ha ha
Minced meat springs to mind
Morning Cedars and Costas.
Cedars, Check your mail.
Great link that. For me there will always be only one King and that is Eric Cantona. Anybody else who uses the word is simply an impostor.
Football is sadly running out of real men on the pitch, instead of some of the fucking cry babies you get these days………..
I miss Roy Keane’s stare, one that would make grown men piss their pants……..I miss how Cantona used to walk on the pitch like he owned the fucking world….I miss how Robbo would spill his guts for the cause…….
Proper men in modern football is a dying breed
Nani, what the fuck was he thinking crying at Anfield? Arrrrggggg
Balaji
Morning mate, lets not disregard the original King of OT and that is Law………..Guess we’ve been blessed with a few Kings at United!!
Cedars, Yup! We have been blessed with so many whereas the scousers have been blessed with only one impostor.
Today seems to be a slow news day as far as football is concerned.
Cedars, Yeah, if you say the same thing about Nani or Ronaldo during a match, there will be scores of people willing to defend them. These guys are seriously a bunch of pussies, going down at the slightest hint of touch as if they have been shot in the back. I seriously miss the days of Keano and Viera going hard at each other. Those days even full hard tackles that took away your shins were met with people continuing their run. Just look at someone like Best, he could endure absolutely physical abuse from defenders, play with only one boot and still score a wonder goal. In contrast, the pussies these days keel over and fall when they feel the defender’s breath on their backs. It is disgusting to be honest.
Balaji
Mind you the Kop’s King was one fuck of a player……..Having said that our Martin Buchan always had him in his back pocket ……..
Younger fans will know how tough Stam and now Vidic is, no doubt but if you ever saw Buchan in action then he would make both seem like 5 year olds with skinny legs! Tree trunk we called him, no he seriously had tree trunk for legs!
Nice facts but whats the use of them when we are still unsure about signing him heh
As for that no.7 shirt, Valencia deserves it and no way a new comer is going to snatch it from him this season, else Kagawa could have been given it since SAF knew long ago he was signing him
Balaji
Spot on mate and especially about Best (RIP) Remember that back then pitches were terrible, the laws were different and players got no protection from refs whatsoever…….Yet our Besty never fell down, never complained, he just glided through the challenges like a beautiful butterfly
This is a complain to both Costas and Balaji…………Buggers just got me all nostalgic on Cantona and Best!!
Doing my youtube rounds like mad yet I have work to finish!
Cedars
One of the younger fans here.. Would love to see any videos of this beast Buchan who makes Nemanja and Stam look all sissy likee! :O :O
Cedars, Oh yeah, that I’ve heard about the Kop king. Still, I don’t have one iota of respect for him, so it makes it difficult for me to appreciate even that aspect about him.
Oh BTW, I second utd_fc, any videos that you get to watch, we should too. Today seems to be a boring day and links to Youtube videos are the perfect answer to that boredom.
utd_fc
Hi pal, not sure if there are any videos of Buchan on the net, do your best to find some……While you’re at it look at up Kevin Moran as well, now he was one crazy mother fucker…….No one ever got passed him, also made history as the first ever player to be sent off in a FA Cup final
Cedars
also, I can’t agree more about the nani-anfield incident. While i’ll defend him getting up and falling to my last day because I legitimately believe that when the referee didn’t book that cunt he got up in sheer anger and adrenaline and when he put pressure on his leg he realized how bad it was. BUT there is no fucking excuse in the world for him to pussy out, especially right infront of that fuckin cunt Gerrard infront of all of Anfield. That one act put the whole team under pressure because all of a sudden you had the whole of KOP calling him a diving cheat. Also, it just gave the whole image of United being weak.. Inexcusable!
Ok here is one you starved REDS
Actually the game that Moran got sent off in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVbUoGm4lw0
Cedars & Balaji
Not the longest of videos (30 sec clip actually), but BLOODY HELL, i’d like to know of even one centre half that would even have the guts (forget the technique) to launch a blast like that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go57dAK9km4
btw that Whiteside goal was a fantastic goal but what caught my eye was Sparky’s pass, i mean the way he just uses his outfoot and cuts open the defence. Bloody Brilliant!
looking for more gems now on youtube.
Morning reds around the world..
woke up late and i m on leave today!!
Had a sound 11 hour sleep, enough to charge the batteries for this month..
as i keep telling, we are done with transfers, time to look forward to the season..
thank god, its just 27 days away!!
Fucking hell, come to think of it every Irish player we have had has been mad as fuck!! Whiteside!!
Irwin probably skipped a beat!
Now that I am dating an Irish lady I can understand why!! ha ha
utd_fc
I was at that game mate!!
Sandeep
That’s quite a statement with the media frenzy that’s going on regarding this Lucas, esp after Sir Alex confirmed it. You sure we won’t be making any more signings pal? I was pretty skeptical of it myself given our track record w Brazilian players but im having my own doubts now
Cedars
Sir in that case I’m envious! Wish I had discovered football earlier, although to be fair I wasn’t even alive then!
Phil from Prestwich is 1 embarrassing cunt! Everytime I watch MUTV and he phones in, I cringe a little more with every phone call. The man is an absolute full. What a cunt and he should honestly be banned from phoning in. Disgrace to all United fans around the world. Fuck off u cunt! Every call he makes is negative! He never has a good thing to say about the club, never! Last nights call was just ridiculous though! Arguing with Mark Sullivan about Super Dan, get a life u muggy cunt. Enough said
utd_fc
Another one for you
I was there too this night, one of the best nights of my life……….The loudest OT has even been in my opinion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kZLs7B7peI
Well excited by this Kagawa fella! He seems a fucking top talent to be honest and I’m sure a lot agree. He looks a proper footballer, like Rio said, reads the game well, knows when to play a pass etc, has good vision, works hard and knows how to play the game. Fergie has done a bloody good job of getting this lad to the club and it can only be positive. Nice 1 SAF, this kid is gonna rip up the PL! Can’t fucking wait for the season to start already! Fuck these pre season friendlies! Great seeing the kids get given a chance though. Lovely stuff. Roll on Everton away. Let’s av it!
I think the fee has been agreed but also both parties have agreed not to discuss anything untill after the Olympics because the kid’s only 19 , the last thing he needs is the added pressure of the press chasing him and asking him questions not related to the Olympics and about United.
This anders lindegaard character seems bloody sure of himself…in quite an arrogant way to be fair. Talking himself up like that to the media. Wtf? DDG is a far better keeper than him imo. Lindegaard is way to small! Good shot stopper but DDG is just better all round.
Sky Sports are reporting that the deal is off. Moura’s agent claims we won’t up our bid to 30m
Ji sung… Any chance you got them mixed up?
utd_fc,
Call me a pessimist, i still have doubts pal
Morning ROM, some bad news :
Lucas Moura agent: “Manchester United made an offer, which was rejected & they won’t make another one as they have reached their limit.”
“Lucas won’t leave. He is happy at Sao Paulo. We have to forget this subject. There is no possibility he leaves now.”
Well isn’t that a surprise.Like I thought eyewash.
and there’s the eleventh thing you didn’t know about him
Ji Sung,
to be fair, i dont see anything wrong with Anders there..
the lad is very confident, right from the day one, he believes he can be number one, he might fall short in the end, but that’s the right attitude and confidence pal..
he is neither criticizing De Gea nor telling de Gea shit..
The Barton cunt joins Fleetwood town!!
The agent of sao paulo attacker claims he will not be leaving for us
!
We’ll drink a drink a drink
To Eric the king the king the king
He’s the leader of our football team
He’s the greatest centre forward
The world has ever seen !!
Morning knob jockeys
No doubt this news is as bull shit as all the other news we’ve heard on the matter. However, as I’ve just said to King Eric, I for one would not be disappointed. I’ve said it before, £32m for a 19 year old Brazilian right winger?! No thanks.
Some reports saying that United are going to bid €40 million (£32m) whilst some say the move is off ?!
I would be disappointed if we fail to sign Moura. Not only because we will miss out on a great talent but more so because I don’t want us to again fail to sign a player who we were interested in buying. For the past 3 seasons we have missed out on a big target. I hope we have a change and buy our top target.
Cedars
Aah the game against Barcelona. Much better times compared to our recent exploits in CL finals wouldnt you say
. What a magical night, can’t tell you how many times i’ve seen this video, esp after our last defeat to Barcelona. I believe half of these views accumulated are mine!!
All i can say is you’ve been to some LEGENDARY nights, one lucky guy you are. For me I’d just like to have the privilege to step inside or famous ground and see our beloved reds in action just once. See I’ve lived all my life either on the east of Europe, or the west lol, so never got such a chance. Needless to say it remains one of my things to do for sure!
Sandeep
I’d call you more of a realist my friend. Too many of these so called done deals have come undone right infront of us. Although I’m not sure if i’d be happier w this deal happening or not happening. Aaah screw it, just gonna leave this one up to Sir Alex. I’ve decided the gaffer can be trusted from time to time
Manchester united are a bit of laughing stoke in transfers market, nobody takes seriously anymore
Sandeep
looks like you’ve got some good sources mate! ‘breaking news’ suggests that United made one last bid which was rejected and we’ve given up on Lucas now.
911Devil
I hardly think refusing to pay over £30m for this kid is making us a laughing stock. I think we’re spot on. If the offers tabled are true than we’ve offered a more than fair price to this club. We’re not city and won’t be held to ransom by some tin pot club from Brazil. Fuck em! That money can be spent elsewhere!
The merror now reports that van persie wants to join united
They were the first site to report that united had completed the deal for moura
All piece of shits IMO
Its
Its obvious we aren’t going to sign any of them….
Same old stories over and over.
I already said that I ddn’t want to get my hopes up, but seems like when it comes of united, everyone wants the story
Hence it seems true when in actual fact
Its all bullshit
Thats the agent protecting the player from the press and allowing him to concentrate on the task at hand. Almost the same as Oscar having done a medical at Chelksi but claiming he might still be playing in Brazil.
I agree with MikeKelly, Its great to see us going after players, itsnot a joke if we are priced out of a move we are not City.
Great ambitionand great public showing.
utd_fc,
its just the gut feeling pal, no resource as such,
M19ke,
spot on as usual,
I understand if there are 3 or 4 clubs battling around that price, then it might shoot up,
in my honest opinion, we have tabled the best possible offer for a non European 19 years old if the report are true..
and i feel, that is that..
So Moura won’t join us? I am shocked.
Sandeep
Morning pal.
Giggs12
Not going to make Everton. Managed to get a cheap flight to Cyprus last night and it doesnt get back in til Tuesday morning! Be ready and raring for Fulham though!!
Agreed with all above.
He’s a an unproven 19 year old kid! Honestly these clubs think they can hold us hostage just because the kid has some flash and is quick on his feet. I’ll get behind him like any other signing we make but I for one am not gonna spend my time crying about a 19 year old unproven kid in a (no disrespect) inferior league. If rumours are to be believed than we bid more than enough.
This is not United’s weakness in the transfer market. It’s their SENSIBILITY. We’re not some nouve-riche club with no history, we’re bigger and better than that.
Well he’s not coming so this is useless. Maybe Fergie can finally concentrate on getting a central midfield player in this time instead of being diverted from the main goal which is to improve the middle of the park.
The agent only want us to add £2m
But haven’t seen him play, so whether 30 is a bargain or not I don’t know
Only seen youtube vids which is not something to count on
But heard loud him as being better than neymar
Even their fans thinks £30m is a fair price as they have no financial stability
Maybe there’s something going on that we don’t know of, it clear we are interested, and fergie wouldn’t come out and say if we were not close to agreement with the club
I remember atletico madrid kept on saying DAVID DE GEA weren’t going anywhere when in fact had already agreed the deal
Thigo aswell, they said he was not going to PSG that he had even signed a new contract with MILAN, but a week l8er he was being unveiled as a PSG player.
Its strange by the way the agent react
Its like we were harassing hem
Another token bid for a player we wouldn’t get, then Fergie and Gill can say we tried to get some world class players, but guess what they failed, our midfield is shit, no big names are interested in playing for United, which is heartbreaking but it’s the truth….
zhukov ok then. go and support a team with a good midfield in your opinion like say Barcelona or Man City or even Arsenal as you’d fit right in with the plonkers over there.
This was never any ploy. Considering the boy is NINETEEN YEARS OLD and we were willing to pay as much as 30 million pounds for him should tell your thick skull that we do have enough money in our account to get some great players into the team unless you consider 30 million pounds for a 19 year old boy as a token amount. Can you produce 30 million pounds for me right now? you probably can’t so shut up please.
zhukov
Buddy its time u get your head out of your ass. I’m sorry but ‘token’ bid? What qualifies as a real bid for a 19 year old boy playing outside europe to you? Cus 26million quid seems like a fuckload to me!
We will start the league with what we got………….. there will no major signings………..its just how its is boys,get used to it
dannysoya LOVES SIAN MASSEY says:
zhukov ok then. go and support a team with a good midfield in your opinion like say Barcelona or Man City or even Arsenal as you’d fit right in with the plonkers over there.
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I’m sorry but wtf? Are we all just supposed to wilfully ignore the obviously problems with our central midfield area at the risk of not being a ‘real fan’ or something? Ridiculous.
Balaji – Kevin Keegan was King of the Kop before Kenny. Both great players in their day. Better than Fergie as players but nowhere near him in terms of management. No doubt about that
He aint coming – so says his agent!
You speak like a United fan who has got used to seeing us miss out on the big player, I’m a realist I say what I see and that is a shit midfield, and it needs work now, if you don’t agree with that your a moron, Anderson and Cleverley are crap, Carrick is 31, and the legend Scholes shouldn’t be playing anymore as his legs like another legend Giggs have gone…
“Well he’s not coming so this is useless. Maybe Fergie can finally concentrate on getting a central midfield player in this time instead of being diverted from the main goal which is to improve the middle of the park.”
@kanchelskis this is from my first post this morning, so I don’t know what the hell you are on about claiming that I am ignoring our midfield problems for the sake of being called a real fan. Do you advocate spending 45 million pounds on a 19 year old boy who has never played at the highest level in club football? Is that what you want? Do you consider 30 million pounds for a 19 year old as a token bid? Do you think Manchester United is doomed simply because we refused to satisfy Lucas’ greedy agent? That was what I was addressing when responding to zhukov.
kanchelskis
mate i don’t think anyone’s denying we need that class centermid but then we’re not arguing about a cm are we? We’re talking about a 19 year old winger and all dannysoya said was that we bid more than enough for lucas, if it still doesnt happen then we just need to accept it and move on
zhukov
refer to the above paragraph. We’re not talking about our midfield, this is an advanced attacker/winger you’re going on about. So if you think signing lucas is gonna solve our midfield situation then you’re sadly mistaken.
I believe this is one of the many reasons Sir Alex doesn’t go public with his transfer policies. it’s cus of morons like u who slate him and our club regardless of what happens.
Morning RoM – been a while since I’ve posted but here are my thoughts about Lucas Moura – who will in my mind no doubt turn out to be a top player but I’m glad we’re sticking with our principles on this one – no way should we be held to ransom on a player who lets face it is hardly proven, however much potential he may have. Sir Alex must think there is alot of better ways of spending the £30m number thats been touted around and thats more than good enough for me
The days of signing players to get excited about are long gone.We slowly turning into the gooners.Sad but true,when last did we attract a player everyone wants?Berbatov?A world class team attract world class names.You can nag on about we develop yada yada,2 of our best players in our development is out the door already.You really think our teamsheet scares City or Chelski,of course it scares Liverpool but that’s another story!
@dannysoya
Just seemed like you were getting on zhukov’s back primarily for his realistic outlook on our midfield. I see now that we broadly agree on that front. Sorry for the attack.
No idea what’s going on with the Moura situation. He has one of the better YouTube portfolios out there (lad has some cold silks), but I totally agree that we can’t let ourselves get fucked around by some agent for an unrealistic fee for an essentially unproven player.
If certain sources are to be believed, Fergie’s main focuses are RVP, Moura and Baines. Yet I suspect we dont have the $$ to satisfy Arsenal, Sao Paulo and Everton, so should probably expect two out of the three, at best.
Moura’s agent says the deal is OFF!!!!! And United have reached there limit?
If this is in anyway true then its worrying for United. Also Juventus have now moved into pole for RVP. I just wish Fergie and co would just stop messing around and get them in and end the disscussions. If fergie is backing the glazers he has to prove the money is availible and do something with it.
@zhukov I will not get into a meaningful conversation with you today as you are clearly deluded. I have gotten used to seeing us lose out on big players? Oh really, you are blind. You can’t see that we signed a european player of the year nominee, back-to-back bundesliga champion, Double champion. He’s not a big player right? he’s a shit small time player.
And then you go on to say that Cleverley is crap? our midfield is shit? I guess you want us to replace the entire midfield then since its so shit right?
Were you at any point in your life taught about economics? Getting the best possible return on your investment? You probably weren’t which is why you talk out of your ass.
Lucas Moura and RVP bids are all just a smoke screen to keep fans happy. We have no intention of signing these players. This is just the Glazers public relations machine doing what it does best.
Dillan says:
The days of signing players to get excited about are long gone.We slowly turning into the gooners.Sad but true,when last did we attract a player everyone wants?
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On a domestic front, at the very least Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea (and I suspect others) were all clamouring for Phil Jones.
Here we go, the big girl’s blouse are throwing their toys out because they can’t get their favorite lollipops. I did say people shouldn’t put their hopes on a spectacular transfer like this, it’s 50 50 if it happens. Get over it, shit happens.
nani > moura
nani > young
nani >>>> ronnie
wait what?
The apathy in our ranks as fans disturbs me, it seems most are happy that as long as we try to sign players that’s fine, I want players to come and help win titles and start turning those three European cups into a more worthy tally for our club, but if major changes aren’t made in the midfield dept then that won’t happen will it….
georgejoseph – What a ridiculous argument. Why would the Glazers want to rise fans’ hopes only to disappoint them? You think United fans will be happy with bidding for the best players and signing none of them? Complete nonsense.
Lol!!!!
There your go guys
We may even your own thread to discuss better
Get to a conclusion of whom the real fan is
Its all clear lucas moura’s not coming
Let’s swallow the fact that we were not beaten out of the price by no team this time around, only we didn’t meet their asking price.
A potential ballon d or winner cost more than that this days…
Just saying!!!
Lol!!!!
There your go guys
We may even your own thread to discuss better
Get to a conclusion of whom the real fan is
Its all clear lucas moura’s not coming
Let’s swallow the fact that we were not beaten out of the price by no team this time around, only we didn’t meet their asking price.
A potential ballon d or winner cost more than that this days… Or future world player of the year, watever its called
Just saying!!!
IF (and I know it’s a big IF) Ando and Tom C can stay fit for the majority of the season, then I think our midfield issues are not that bad along with Carrick, Scholesy and possibly some youngsters – Powell and Tunni. I really think this is going to be Ando’s season as long as he can stay fit, think the penny has finally dropped for him.
@scott the Red…..why is it ridiculous argument……They are trying to find investors on NYC stock exchange..
LOL! It’s all clear Moura is not coming. Where did you hear that? His agent who’s just playing hardball for better prices and playing his hand perfectly. Sao Paulo are playing hard ball because they know they’ve got a special kid on their hands. United apparently want him. But there is no way in hell we’ll be held ransom. If their asking price is too high, Sir Alex is not going to meet it because he doesn’t have to.
He has multiple plans and Lucas Moura forms just one of them. If the Moura plan doesn’t work out, he’ll have an alternative. And if that doesn’t work out, he’ll have another alternative. He’s like Batman in the footballing world. Do not underestimate him, especially now that he feels the pain of watching a shit club lift a trophy that rightfully belongs to us.
I don’t think some of us get the point. This boy is a great player but he’s a winger. We have 3 of the the top 15 wingers in world football. Where the hell is he gonna play? He’s also an attacking midfielder but we’ve just signed Kagawa and we plan on starting him immediately. He won’t start games. Do you want to have a 35 million plus player on the bench?
Days of buying a player to get excited about are long gone? I’m pretty excited about Kagawa…
Scott’s right. What happens if a club calls our bluff and accepts the bid? Utter tripe. Fuck what his agent says. I’ll wait until Fergie confirms anything.
@ Cyril – me too mate !
Fuck me. I never knew so many of you had the inside scoop in the board room. Jesus, Sir Alex doesn’t even know what sums are being discussed and some of you on here are saying things like “we only needed to offer £2m more” really? Who the fuck told you that? And would you be so kind as to pass that on to David Gill as I’m sure he could use the info ! God give me strength. Anyway, here is a piece by Annie Eaves that may stop those of you who were about to phone the Chelsea season ticket hotline or reach for the razor blades because United supposedly wouldn’t pay stupid amounts for a 19 year old kid.
@AnnieEaves: Manchester United’s move for Lucas Moura isn’t dead, regardless of what his agent has spouted. Quotes from Wagner … http://t.co/bCW0tSFN
dannysoya
just let it go mate. some of us will never be happy. i reply to such people once or twice but anything further than that is just pointless because unless we sign the media-frenzy names like hazard people like zhukov arent gonna be happy.
Regarding this whole Lucas deal I think we’ll find out for sure soon enough. If it’s his agent playing hardball or it’s generally off, we will find out before august because i believe Sao Paolo will be getting a lesser share of his fee and i dont think theyre going to want that just for a couple million more. So either it’s a complete bust or we will get this done on our terms. And I personally am more than happy with that.
To be honest – I dont think either RVP or Moura is coming, even though we have put the bids in.
We must remember Sir Alex never discusses transfer targets – never has he done in his career – at least i cant remember any occasion. He is doing it this time just as a PR exercise designed to raise profile for the impending IPO because he loves United to the core and is willing to break his own rules for the good of United.
In case of RvP – we cant compete with city if they fancy him – which we now they do given Mancini has been publicly courting him since last season.
In case of Moura – the agent has come out and said that the deal is off…and with the power of today’s agents…..well…..
Of course, I would like to be pleasantly surprised and see either/both of them being signed, but honestly i dont see either happening.
I’m sure king eric cantona will smash the wall of his house this time round
Last season he smashed the table after we lost out to shity
@Willie
We could cite the player or the agent’s ridiculous demands and have the deal get cancelled anyway.
I do see your comments @balaji, only I don’t have a reply yet
don’t feel demoralised by the way I’m handling conversation
But keep hem coming
But I never take it personally, so feel free
And bang hem in
georgejoseph – And you think investors are going to pour loads of money in to United because we’ve put bids in for players? Why on earth would you think wealthy and successful people would be thick enough to do that?
Kanchelskis
To be fair when have United ever bought players who everyone wants? United always buy the promise and turn the player into world class stars. There have been exceptions such as Rooney and Rio but there rest like Kancheslskis, RvN, Ronaldo, Vidic, Cantona, Nani, Hernandez etc were not big names.
Fergie operates differently.
Same to you @mike
Based on moura’s pure ability, i think if he was signed, he’d start without a doubt. I still think this is an agent’s ploy, maybe united haven’t paid that little payment to sweeten the deal, it could still happen but honestly, it doesn’t shine a bad light on the club. ABU’S will cast this as a form of weakness, they’ll drain every possible negativity out of it but it’s all bullshit.
The midfield is not shit, not for a while have i seen united gathering a bunch of outstanding young midfield talents waiting to make the step up. These players will be encouraged. Not as bad as it’s made out if you have a constructive view and less of a doom and gloom.
Eles so querem 90 reais
They only want R 90 dollars which means £2m more
According to the currency
@Scott the red- Its all about perception…… We are the richest franchise…….so we should be seen as active for the top players.
Costas – You cynic!
Red Devil says:
“He is doing it this time just as a PR exercise designed to raise profile for the impending IPO.”
Putting in bids which he knows are going to fail? I’m going to take a wild guess that you don’t work in PR…
“In case of RvP – we cant compete with city if they fancy him”
Not true. City’s money will always be a factor but you’re forgetting two key factors: 1. the player himself 2. Wenger. It may be that Van Persie would prefer United, like Kagawa, Berbatov, Smalling, he may be one of those targets who sees United for what they are and that appeals to him. As for Wenger, if he’s forced to make a decision between the two Manchester clubs, he’d surely be more inclined to sell to us? He’s been openly critical about City’s transfer policy and has already had to put up with feeding them Toure, Clichy, Nasri and Adebayor.
City’s cash will win out a lot of the time. But not all the time.
I think a lot of people nowadays operate differently to back when I started supporting United, and this is just 10 years ago. But I was really, really excited about any young talent that came in and started playing for us. That was what made me so excited about watching United play when compared to other clubs. Heck, I was excited about Liam Miller, Eric Djemba-Djemba, Kieran Richardson etc. until they proved to me that they are not United quality. But when they first hit the first team, I was as excited about them as I had been about any other player that played for us.
The entire situation has been turned topsy-turvy nowadays with the newer set of fans. I wouldn’t call them glory-hunters or anything like that because their heart might be in the right place. However, they would rather see us turned into another Real Madrid, City or Chelsea who buy their success. They would rather have a so-called marquee talent sign for us from some big name European club rather than give one of own youngsters a chance. A chance that might see them become the next Scholes or Giggs. They basically say anybody who’s from the youth system at Ajax/Barca are the next Messi/RVN and anybody who is from our own system is crap.
It is the unfortunate reality of some of the newer set of fans that they are so influenced by the tabloids and media instead of how the club in actuality operates.
911 Devil
I’m not doubting your ability to read and translate. I’m asking you why you are taking as gospel the myriad of bull shit being written in press?
Scott The Red
Greetings mate….it is fantastic to see you take a more hands on approach to the blog and getting involved in the comments again. Just like old times…brilliant
you say – “And you think investors are going to pour loads of money in to United because we’ve put bids in for players? Why on earth would you think wealthy and successful people would be thick enough to do that?”
And that is quite correct mate….but you’ll agree that this is unprecedented from Fergie…
The thing is IPO’s are more about creating a buzz, a publicity…
Look at the facebook IPO example – the kind of hype that got generated was mind-boggling…!
And that gets people to invest, believe it or not…! Lots of wealthy people got on to the facebook bandwagon just because of the buzz and hype created in the media…..
Its another matter that it ultimately ended up getting over-valued and lots of people lost money in the deal, but the fact is that these same successful and wealthy people wanted to participate in the IPO just because of the buzz and not because they understood the intricacies of online networking sites and their potential to generate advertising revenue. Remember in financial markets, you dont need to fool people all the people all the time, just enough people for enough amount of time to swoop in and make your cut. Thats what most IPO’s end up being about. (I’m not saying thats necessarily a good thing, but thats how the world is)
Again, I’m not implying that we dont want those players – just that wanting them and getting them are two separate things as you would have so heart-burningly noticed over the last few years mate…
No one knew about the OP until we showed interest
So it should be lined up onto deals
Of which no one know a thing or two about
But thing is that the media spotted us b4 we could do anything
The truth seems regarding the IPO the Glazers are reducing the amount daily as to the amount being seeked by investors, only looking for $64 million is a paltry amount to our debt isn’t it, truth seems to be that those rich men don’t fancy United at all, and listing United as a media company is a joke, the IPO is a joke and so is our ability to sign players who are either developed or close to being so, yes I do believe that these moves in the market are half arsed, Gill is probably still partying with Chelsea, we’ve seen his true colours, lets just hope that Tom “I’m injured again and again, but not that good” Cleverley can drink some Messi juice this summer, when did the apathy destroy the spirit…..
@Kanchelskis
You’ve misinterpreted my comment mate — I never said the bids weren’t genuine, just that I dont think we’ll end up winning the bids. See my later post as well.
“He is doing it this time just as a PR exercise designed to raise profile for the impending IPO.”
This sentence is in regards to making the transfer bids public before being signed.
Read the above line as “Sir Alex is making the bids public this time just as a PR exercise designed to raise profile for the impending IPO.”
Of course he isn’t making those bids knowing he would lose – but I’m sure he realises that there is a very good possibility of both the deals failing through – especially after a similar experience last season with Nasri, where he had personal assurances from his camp and had the transfer seemingly tied up before being betrayed.
Despite that, he is willing to take the chance of the bids failing and still coming out in public – and in my opinion its to create publicity/buzz
Balaji
I understand your point mate but if such people can not understand what we’re all about and what the United way really is then are those true Manchester United fans? I’m not going to get into a debate of who’s a real fan and who isn’t because that isn’t my place (or anyone elses to say). All I’m saying is that it while it is very easy to get deluded by today’s media, if you’re really committed to the club then take the trouble to get to know the club also! And I don’t just mean that for United (although I wish more of our fans would do that
)
I’m just 21 yrs of age myself and needless to say Fergie has been in charge of United for longer than I have been on this planet! But my passion for United did not come from only watching us play, rather the way things are done at Old Trafford, the seniority amongst the players and staff, yet the camaraderie they all display, it’s all very reminiscent of my high school and it’s what i’ve grown up with. THAT’s what brought me to United and THAT’s what I love about them.
Just look at the terms of the IPO –
1) No/very little voting power – no say on the running of the club
2) No dividends
People own shares for 3 reasons – 1) dividends, 2) control/sense of ownership 3) Capital appreciation
Now there’s two reasons out of the window — and Capital appreciation is not a very convincing argument given the current financial climate as well as given the string of failed value destroying IPO’s in the last few years – just look at facebook..
I’d say the Glazers are gonna a tough time finding serious investors and need all the publicity they can get.
Like I said I’m not one to judge fans, but can someone please get this joker zhukov off this blog? First you slate Gill, then clevs, then the rest of our midfield. What next? Fergie is a mug who needs to boot? Let’s ring up Pep and tell him to use his barca magic here huh? Then he in turn can ring up Messi Xavi iniesta and co and we can all launch a big catalan party right in Manchester
Fuckin twat
Shocking how some people here are questioning the sanity of the boss.
We bid for him, they thought he is worth more, the boss doesn’t think so .. we move on!
Why the fuck do we need to pay more that we think the player is worth. He might turn out to be the next Ronaldo and everyone will bark we should have signed him but he ‘MIGHT’ and not necessarily ‘WILL’.
I always treated him like a luxury. If we get him great if not So Be It!
Fergie had no choice than to talk about the bids for RVP and Moura and that itself shows you he is committed to improving the team more that any of us here.
However he has and will always stick to his principles. Why should we pay over the odds simply because our neighbours are doing so?
I don’t think we need a central midfielder. We will be fine! I read a post by a very sensible person who said Fergie DID have a plan unlike what some thought. The plan simply broke to pieces due to things out of his control. If Cleverly and Anderson managed to sustain their form we would not even be talking about the midfield.
Relax, Enjoy the sun and look forward to May 2013 when we will see our captain lift the beautiful trophies!
Dearest Freedoms of Speech, Opinion and Expression, it seems you died today. RIP 24/07/12, oh wait there as long as what I say isn’t illegal the laws of Britain protect my right to the above! Fergie I’m blindly loyal to, but the board members and sick note players who come and go no such loyalty exists, I LOVE UNITED WITH ALL MY HEART, as should all fans. But does that mean I’m not allowed to voice an opinion you don’t like damn right only through debate and action will we get our dreams to come true! And thank you for labelling me a joker but I’m very serious, This is United not a Scientology meeting place…..
Fergie has 25 years in charge of the club so
A 21 year old is way to young to talk about the policy of the club
Instead of swallowing every so called bid for players why don’t you think it out.If something flies in the face of the norm regarding United signing players ie our Manager broadcasting his intentions in the transfer market to the assembled press.He doesn’t do that if he is interested seriously in a player,or to put it another way it’s bullshit.
911_DEVIL
There’s a policy here at OT, you might have heard of it
“If you’re good enough, you’re old enough.”
Don’t you fuckin tell me what i’m too young or too old to talk about. I’ve seen enough of your comments to see that i don’t give a shit what you have to say anyways.
A fair comment by zhukov43 I think. A little ham-fisted with your previous contribution pal. However, like you say, if there’s still anyone walking around thinking Anderson is the answer to anything, then I’m truly worried.
Reading my original again – I get the feeling it might be mis-interpreted. Just like Kanchelskis did.
So I’ll just clarify that I dont think that the bids are a farce – just that there is something unprecedented about Sir Alex making his moves public and that is go get publicity for the IPO.
Of course, there is a good chance of the deals failing, In case of Moura because of unrealistic expectations of Sao Paolo and in case of RvP because of involvement of Manchester City (remember last year with Nasri) and still he’s chosen to go public with them.
1) for reasons of publicity (the more likely reason)
2) As a smokescreen (less likely, as fans wouldn’t feel very happy about going in for Van Persie and Moura but ending up with someone like Dembele as quoted in the media instead)
*post….original post again..
Bloody hell…stupid typos…
Goat
In your Liverpool slums is sung to the tune In your Liverpool home.
There links on Utube but they contain the last verse which I refuse to sing, so I won’t post any.
Chelsea fans also sing it and it can be heard when they play, obviously not the last verse.
Kanchelskis…it fuck all do do with Wenger who he signs for …its up to the player….as its the players signature on the contract not the managers….. another person in the mix will be the players agent, who being on 20%-25% of any transfer fee, wont give two flying fucks who the player signs for as long as it is for the most money thus increasing his wedge…..its just a fucking lottery these days….
fuck me …..two serious posts in a week …what will Cedars say…..