The Evening News reckons we’re going to sign Gary Cahill.
The Telegraph confirms that it was Joe Cole’s salary demands which put United off, which was said on here weeks ago.
Kickette has the latest news on new daddy Ronaldo.
F365 reports on Torres’ agents claims which suggest if he does leave Liverpool he will stay in the Premier League.
The Guardian thinks England’s World Cup exit was because the players aren’t good enough.
The Daily Mail reports on Yaya Toure’s desire to return to “the club in his heart”. Not at all embarrassing for the ‘big club’ who have just made him the highest paid player in the Premiership by far.
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This Toure comment is awesome and it sums it up perfectly:
“The day of the signing [for City] was difficult for me”.
I don’t care how attached he was to a previous club, you would never hear a player say that after joining Man United.
Lots of rumors about Torres, but Liverpool will have to be completely desperate if they were to sell him to Chelsea or City. Can’t see us ever bidding for Torres.
we’re going to sign cahill n we already have smalling evans and brown to replace rio and vidic…i think vidic’s future in man utd is a doubt
haha yaya must have seen citehs trophy cabinet and realised what a huge mistake hes just made!
The rest of his comment was:
‘I go to City to help them grow and take them to the level of Manchester United and Chelsea,’ he added.
‘However, I am convinced that some day I shall return to Spain. My heart is Barca and some day I will wear this shirt again, I am sure of that. Barca is the club of my life.’
Not what your empolers or fans want to hear before you’ve even kicked a ball for them Ya Ya!!! Your heart is in Barca, your bank account is in Manchester!!
Man City are like Paris Hilton. Guys only go with them because of their money…
haha, a move away from barcelona is a step down, but he is clearly devastated moving to city, and rightly so
So why have you left then Yaya? Money over the love of your life i guess? City fans will not even be bothered by these comments either. Yaya is another classless mercenary to add to Tevez, Adebayor, Barry, Lescott, Santa Cruz, Silva???/The list is endless, the only players they have signed with the correct intention on both sides is Given and Johnson.
Rio could be ready for Newcastle:
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6650530
Taking it with a big grain of salt.
We must try to sign Torres
I hope he puts in a transfer request
It would be devastating if he went to the rent boys or City
city are like paris hilton- alot of noise made around them at differnet parts of the year, vile and disgusting nobodys who stumbled into alot of money that can buy anything but noone has any respect for them and they dont have a dot of class-
Torres? Ridiculously overrated. Had a great world cup though. Oh wait, all he’s done is dive when a player was a yard away from him and got the player sent off.
Gerrard makes Torres look good. When he goes to Real, Ladyboy will go back to Spain just to be with him again
@ZooTv
Gerrard couldn’t make anyone look good. Torres is just out of shape.
heyyo This got sent to me Ive nothing at all to do with this but still Im so Proud
If you have a facebook give this fanpage a look
http://nl-nl.facebook.com/pages/Emily-Jane-Best-is-a-Manchester-united-Legend/123162837702588?v=wall
Off topic but it seems the greedy bastards Citeh are buying can’t wait to go back to their club. Toure in this instance. These fuckers won’t fight for the shirt.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3041539/Yaya-Toure-admits-Barcelona-desire.html
Oh shite, just realised that the above is on this topic!
Torres? Are you even serious? He spends six months of the season on the fucking bench. Pointless in the extreme.
torres=saha with diving
What an absolute classic. The inevitable shit storm that is going to unfold over the season at Manchester City will make for quality viewing. They might be able to conjure some great results from time to time, but I fail to see how they can develop any model of consistency over the duration of the season and keep all those players happy. Schedenfrued is great.
Although I digress… who cares about that two bit operation. Bring on #19.
I’d say no to Torres, I’ve got afeeling he isnt going to be the same player after his knee surgery and it has looked that way at the world cup. Could be wrong but like King Eric has said he spends half the season with the physios already!!
@ Costas
I could see United going for Torres. IF AND ONLY IF he’s available. The only thing i cant see is United entering a bidding war. Then again we may not have to, call me the eternal optimist but i still think there are players out there who are looking for trophies instead of cash. I doubt he’d want to go to wastelands. he’d rather rot at anfield, but hey thats just my opinion. I firmly believe if we put in an identical bid as Chelsea and man shitty it would be a fight between United and the Chelsea, Ah well lets wait and see
Torres will not come to United. He has been indoctrinated by the scousers. If he leaves, it will be to Chelsea.
How much is that Toure on a week at City?
@ Sayyid
i completely agree. If he’s available we should do everything we can to bring him to OT. I think he fits perfectly into our squad and we are just right for him too. At least we know the United scouts looked at him when he was at Athletico Madrid. i heard the report was that he wouldn’t cut it in the premier league and that he wasn’t strong enough. i think they got that one wrong. If we needed a marquee signing that would shut fans up begging for “star” payer and provide something on the pitch , that player could be this fella. Not holding my breath however. Just want the season to start already. I miss seeing United play
@Slim
I just don’t see us spending over 20 million for anyone. And Torres will cost a lot more than that even if we are the only club in the running. It’s a weird rumor anyway. A few days ago I read that Torres would stay. I don’t see Liverpool being this desperate. Yet.
@ Costas
Get where you’re coming from especially with the financial situation at the club, but you’d have to agree that if he were available SAF would have a look at him. I remember when Rooney was at Everton, and had just had a good tournament (I think it was the Euro championship) Best wrote an article in the inside United magazine saying he didnt see why United would fork out 30 million for him, well we all know what happened. SAF went ahead and signed him and we haven’t looked backed since. Some players make are well worth the money used to sign them. i mean who can hold their hand up and say Rooney hasn’t justified his price tag, Rio is in that category as well.
The funds are there for a major transfer, sure SAF wouldn’t want to blow the lot on a player, but if the right player comes along and it sits well with him , he’d go for it in a heart beat.
Torres in a hearbeat!
King Eric – Not off topic, just a repeat of the link already in the article lol.
@KingEric
If you like United news you should check out this site
http://www.therepublikofmancunia.com
oh wait
@Slim
I agree that Torres would be a good addition. Not to sound like a wise guy though, but I wonder how he would fit in. Ever since Rooney came to the club, we’ve always looked for strikers that would lead the attack and Wayne would play off them. Ruud, Saha, Smith and Tevez for example. Well now Rooney has turned into a centre forward and the one that team revolves around. A Rooney-Torres partnership sounds good, but I wonder how it would work under current curcumstances. 4-4-2 isn’t exactly in fashion right now. Even Spain played better when Torres came off, lol.
But honestly, it wouldn’t hurt to have Torres at the club.
@Costas
id be dissapointed if we dont bye someone this year.
Without doubt Berbatov doesnt cut it, i have given him his chance and i really fail to see any impression he gives apart from an easy life to any defender who comes across him. The guy produces an amazing peice of skill Outside the Penalty box When surrounded by 2 Defenders and a Midfielder. Put him in the box and he will fluff the simplest of pass or miss control!………He just doesnt strike fear or pose a vailid threat!
Carrick. What a poor poor season carrick had! Add to that Anderson last year the pair just didnt do well at all.
Giggs & Scholes With out doubt this has to be their last season. I would expect their replacements to be in the squad this season. Now being purchased next season when they retire. Looking at the squad i fail to see anyone at that level.
I do feel we really need to get rid of Berbatov, get benzema or suarez ( both good on the wing or up front in a 4231)
Vidic?..Will vidic be with us next season ??? All the signs are he wants to go! Will we keep him? Who knows. I’d be more supprised if he stayed!
Cole – Well worth his 100k a week on a free transfer!.. Some creative spark we are currently missing in our eam!…… Would work all across a 3 in a 4231 formation! I just cant see how it wouldnt work!
Goalkeeper?? How long will VDS last playing at the top level, From what i have seen in Kusack i dont think he is our answer.
Fergie has stated there is no value in the transfer market which their might not be! However i translate that into him telling other clubs he isnt going to pay over the odds!.. However he will be well aware that it is a fine line and we cant fall behind other clubs quality wise!
Like it or not City will be an improvement on last season with the quality of players they have brought in. Where all of them are going to fit in is beyound me however! We have Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and City and ourselves all fighting for the prem & at least 4th spot!
What do you all think?
Who would you like to sign?
Who would you like shown the door?
@Trevor
Tough question. I wouldn’t like to list all of our players and say who should stay and who shouldn’t. If I had it my way, they would all stay and I’d bring a few more!
The squad is built on some question marks mate. Anderson and Hargreaves are two of them. Rio as well as some other defenders’ fitness are a few more. Finally, if we can get a few goals out of Chicarito and Macheda, one would think that Berbatov won’t be depended on as much.
If it were up to me, I would look for another defende(like Kjaer for example) and a midfielder like Ozil. He won’t come as cheap as Joe Cole, but he may be someone we can get 5-10 years of good service from.
@ Costas,
Yeah true, although when you talk about wages and joe cole.
Cole 100k per week for 4 years = 20 Mill of wages
Ozil or another Player Untried and Untested in the prem 15+ mil signing on fee & 50k a week for 4 Years = 15m + 10m = 25m
This is why i think Cole is a no brainer!
@Trevor
Berbatov should stay. If he is to be in the team, then our team should function to get the best out of him. Fergie should be playing him in a more consistent basis
Carrick: If someone was to offer £15m lets sell him
Anderson: has lots of potential. Just needs to radically improve his shooting, but he’ll not be back until October
Giggs & Scholes: I suggest we get ozil to replace Scholes. As for Giggs he is playing in CM anyway now, so we dont really need to replace him.
Vidic: hopefully he stays but if Real offer £30m we should take it only if we buy another replacement due to Rio’s lack of fitness lately
Joe Cole: Not worth £100k even on a free. £50k max
Goalkeeper: We need a world class number 1 to replace VDS next season but who is out there?
Hopefully some of our yougsters turn out to be world class. We just need a couple of them to come through
macheda, gibson, obertan, possebon, pogba, morrison. cleverly etc
I know Hodgson said he doesn’t want to fall out with Fergie, but I’m sure his main priority is not falling out with the Liverpool fans. Bearing this in mind does anyone seriously think he would sell Torres to United? Fergie wouldn’t even give them our second choice and crocked left back a few years back so there’s no way Liverpool would sell their best player to us.
Costas makes a good point as well – how would he fit in? As we’ve seen from Real Madrid it’s not all about buying the best individuals, it’s about building a team that plays well together.
@bigphil2003
Just Imagine this team
VDS
Brown Evans Vidic Evra
Hargreaves Fletcher
Valencia Rooney Nani
Torres
Joe cole isnt worth £100,000. If we pay joe cole that much, then fletcher deserves £150,000.
@Costas
Thing is Rooney didnt do to badly with those players , he played really well with all of them, especially Saha and Tevez. The problem as i see it is trying to turn Rooney into an out and out striker like villa or even torres, RVN and so on. IMO he’s not that type of player, he’s to expansive and his game is all about attacking play, not strictly scoring goals. SAF saw this and tried playing him with Berbatov last season (at the start of the season anyway) when that didnt work he was forced to play him upfront alone witha 5 man midfield.
More than anything , or any prospective signings i want to see Rooney playing in role that we know he can, For him to improve and take it to the next level he needs to allowed to express himself without being hindered the way a lone striker is. Hell i’ll take no more signings if he’s played behind Hernandez or Diouf cos thats where he’s best. Just my opinion.
Granted torres didnt set the world alight at the WC but neither did Rooney and a host of other players, even Oezil didnt have a good half season, but one can’t deny the quality that these players have. Klose and podolski aren’t exactly fantastic for their clubs but are doing quite well for Germany. TBH i just want the season to start already. aaaaaaaaargh
Scott and gotta hate – Bugger off lads!!!
@Sayyid
Your line up is exactly what i have in mind, You got it spot on.even if the torres thing is just a foolish dream, rooney playing behing chicarito/diouf/Berbatov should reap dividends, not just goal scoring but a return of Rooney to his best position. I’ve argued this point for a long time and i hope that unfolds this season
“Torres hasn;t set the world cup alight” He hasn’t set fuck all on fire since before last December. Fuck me we have had enough injury problems with Hargreaves and Owen now people want the ladyboy. He is always injured lads.
Am I the only one to see Berbatov converted to a creative midfielder? His ability to contain the ball when needed, is magnificent – and he can play passes to crack open defenses. Admittedly, he may seem to look slow, but then again statistics show he has an excellent workrate.
Ireland is the only Citeh player I would like to see in a red shirt – he had a great season until all the mercenaries was brought on. Don’t think we can get Özil – but what about Misimovic from Wolfsburg?
Cahill would be a great replacement for Rio or Vidic – I fear we are losing both… Still, I trust SAF will build (and win titles) with his next team before resigning, and it’s not that we haven’t got top quality players already in the club.
@ King Eric
RVN had injury problems before joining United. didn’t do to badly for himself. May not have played well since december but you can’t deny the quality is there
@Sayyid and slim
whats wrong with your line up with kiko upfront-3rd fastest player in the world cup hernandez up front even welbeck or diouf because of the power behind them
id hate torres at united
i cant stand that little fucker
thou the taught of beating liverpool on the road to 19 with owe and the ladyboy
if torres leaves, think he would be a perfect strike partner to rooney
imagine that…but it will never happen
lads,
there is no hope in hell that torres will be at united next season!
Scott, more of a request here. Maybe you could make a blog entry with regards to the new squad limit rules? Googling it only shows up articles from 2009 newspapers, nothing relevant to today and how teams are regarding this, how it’s going to be dealt with and how it effects United? I assume this is why they bought Smalling, probably not even going to use him much but are forced to have these players in their reserves?
Just watched the official season review. OG got his very own tribute.
So proud. That Bayern game hurts the most. Giggsy said the first half was our best game that season and I agree with him.
Torres to United? Yeah right. Cahill to United? If those dam sources are to be believed, it could happen.
Torres is a scouse loving cunt and should never be allowed to be part of our club. Im also glad that there is no chance of him coming here anyway, thank fuck YSB
And after watching the review if I had to wish for some things for the 10-11 season it would be:
1) No injury crisis. We suffer through one every season it seems. 4-5 players out I understand. 9-10? No.
2) More games for Kiko Macheda. I feel it’s time for him to become part of the first team.
3) Injury free Michael Owen.
4) To see the Nemanja Vidic we saw in 08-09(apart from one game!)
5) To have more of the same from the likes of Nani and Valencia.
6) To get 25-30 games of top quality from Scholes, Giggs and Nev.
7) To see Dimitar Berbatov play to the best of his capabilities and not feel sorry for himself.
9) Finally, I want to see the foundation of this team (Rooney, Fletcher, Evra, Vidic and Evra) to stay injury free.
costa
just on you number 2
i think that was the plan but he’d a bad groin injury last season
Costas – When you said, i want to see more of the twins, i had visions of Jenna Jameson and her twin sister.
well if we’re really interested in cahill it could mean one of the following or in fact both the things-
1)vidic is gonna leave utd
2)SAF has serious doubts over long term fitness of ferdinand
somehow my heart says vidic won’t leave but i do have doubts about rio’s fitness though…touchwood.
@willierednut
Lol. If only she had a twin sister. I wouldn’t let that one get away.
@GHTT
Yeah, good point mate. I was beginning to get tired of writing “this guy has to stay injury free” all the time, so I changed my tune a bit. Also, I felt that the Kiko we saw towards the end of the season looked better than the one we saw in the beginning.
@GHTT
It can’t be helped i guess. trying not to remember the goal he scored against United with Rio struggling to keep up. TBH just want the season to start already
@ Costas
Your 9 point plan/wishlist stacks up pretty nicely. And you know what ? we do have a quality side. I’m glad Fletch, O’Shea and Valencia got the summer off. Even Nani fits into the category . We need the core of the team firing on all cylinders for when the season starts.
just read Torres’s agent denies making comments about him joining another EPL club. Ha !! Fucking agents. Just as well i guess
@Slim
Yeah mate, there’s only so many times one can use the injury card, but I am also hoping that O’Shea stays fit this season. It was a real blow to lose him last season, especially when he didn’t even get injured playing for us!
@ Costas
I think O’Shea is fit now though. it’ll be good to have him back, in fact it’ll be good to have everyone back. Would really like to see Kiko make a real step up and see what he’s about because to be honest we have no idea of what he’s capable of. i’d welcome more of the OT heroics against Villa though, Absolutely fantastic goal, sprained my ankle celebrating that goal
Chancer Redknapp is up to his usual tapping up self. Forlan has declared his intentions to stay at Atletico Madrid, but that hasn’t stopped the cockney cunt from saying the following: ‘He’s someone we would like, but a deal is a long way off’. Fucking wanker. If Fergie said that, we would be pulled in no time by Atletico for tapping up one of their players.
@Slim
Amen about the OT heroics. We had our fair share in the last 2 years. Oh, I forgot to say that another wish would be more late wins against Shity. I know that it’s hazardous for our hearts, but the end result is well worth it! Those 3 late wins were among the highlights of the season.
@ Costas
Man you’re on point with your wish list . Damn i forgot about the last minute goals against city. I swear if we repeat the same feat this season, that would be the end of ‘em. The Sheiks would be royally pissed
This whole Yaya Toure issue is fucking priceless. I cant believe he made that move just to get more money, I mean if he returns to Africa when his playing days are up is he going to fill light in his pocket with all the money hes made to date.
Funny as hell.
Kings
Harry “crazy face” Rednapp is at that all the bloody time, always naming players who he would like to sign, unsettling the player and his club, he must think its a good way to go about his business but as you say if Sir Alex named a player publicy all hell would break loose
learn to play football with scunthorpe united footballer gary duncan genius http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW7nASylCN8
@JD
The squad limit is 25 registered players. 7 of which have to have Home Grown status. Home Grown means that a player has been registered with a English or Welsh club for 3 years before he turns 21. This doesn’t have to be continuous) Players who were under 21 on the 1st Jan of the year the season starts do not need registered (so for 2010/11 that’s any player who turned 21 BEFORE 1st Jan 2010) HOWEVER if a club is short of over 21 Home Grown players a U21 who meets the HG requirements can be registered for one fo the 25 man squad
At United our Squad limit is currently around 28 players over 21. We have 15 players over 21 who have Home Grown status these are
1) Neville
Giggs
2) Hargreaves (Although there is some debate on this apparently. He qualifies as HG in UEFA but the way the FA one seems worded he may not count as HG which is daft)
3) Rio
4) Brown
5) Owen
6) Anderson
7) Rooney
9) Carrick
10) Scholes
11) O’shea
12) Evans
13) Fletcher
14) Gibson
15) De Laet
So we need to sell or loan a few more players to get to the 25 limit. Its why I personally believe Gibson, Diouf and Obertan need loaned to a prem team as all 3 need top level games but also take a squad place when game time will be limited.
Chelsea with the same rules in place for CL have struggled to name a squad in recent years and have had to name u21′s in the A list just to make the HG quota. Liverpool also apparently have way too many players, pushing nearly 50 over 21 pros on their books by all accounts.
Citys squad is also way too big although atm they are ok with the HG quota. The problem they may have is obviously players need sold and most of those likely to leave are HG players such as Bellemy, Ireland, Richards, SWP, Johnson and Bridge all being tipped to leave with more Forign players lined up to join.
Arsenal will struggle to even be able to name 25 players over 21
Ulster Red – Hi mate. He’s a fucking twat. In the summer of 2008, Fergie said on Sky Sports News that he had made a bid for a player who would significantly enhance the squad. Even though we knew it was going to be Berbatov, Fergie never mentioned his name, but prick face Daniel Levy threw his toys out of the pram and accused us of tapping him up. But he obviously thinks it is perfectly ok for Redknapp to blatantly mention names of other clubs players that he would like to sign, like he did with Defoe, Keane and Crouch, now he is doing likewise with Forlan.
Paul the octopus predicted that Spain will go through to the final.
kings
hello pal, everyone knew berba wanted to come here, levey couldnt handle that but played it well as he got serious amount of cash out of us! rednapp isnt a bad manager but his transfer policy is a disgrace, he even whores himself out to other jobs, most recent being the england one.
@Kings
TBH I don’t blame Levy for the situation with Berba. Levy was pissed off with Benitez’s tapping up of Keane which was out of order so he was a bit touchy. United were doing it the right way and the deal was apparently close to being signed.
Then a norweign United fan site decided to post a story about it being a done deal. This norweign fan site looked very much like the various official sites but was in no way connected. The Lazy ABU’s in Fleet street saw the link being passed around football forums and decided to ignore fact checking and published stories saying United had confirmed it on an oofficial site. Quite rightly people a Spurs when told an official United site had posted it before all the details had been finalised and Levy pulled the plug on the deal. This meant in the end we had to stump up an extra 5mill.
Now yes Levy should have maybe made sure that the Red Tops facts were right and that it was an official website BUT its the Newspapers who were to blame as they are for so much of the unsettling of players with the stories they like to make up or twist to sell papers
@Costas
Those pictures are fake. Paul, the octopus makes his prediction tomorrow. He has 3 hearts the little fella and all of them are beating for Germany!
There is as much chance of me converting to Islam as there is of Torres coming to United. Still a bloody fantastic player. Been a bloody thorn in our side anyway, much more of a threat than that battering ram Drogba.
@Gary
They altered it? And apparently some Argentineans are threatening Paul over facebook. Football fans are turning into nutcases, lol.
One thing is for sure. The team that Paul will predict to lose the game will approach Mick Jagger and try to convince him to support the other team.
Great links thank you.
Before I go of on one, I love reading and learning and I love the Republika of Mancunia, I try to read all the lads and lasses and Scotts posts naturally you have lifes beyond a blog like me.
I think and still do Republika of Mancunia is for real men, cheap cider and doritos.
On topic thanks.
Cahill i cant comment on him he is largely anonomous and as a Bolton player not often on MOTD.
But tottally agree in tandem with Nemanja’s need for pussy and Rio’s glass back and his alledged return which is a mosiac of times. I dont know why this name tips up last week it was the lad from Palermo. Doh.
Joe Cole typical Arry the wide laddo tips up and goes for Cole, I think this lad is a trojan horse and thinks he is above himself and I wanted him to sign only to blame WillieRed nut while he was constantly on the treatment table.
Seriously those wage demands are outer space, unless this is curbed its not only gonna go pear its going down the fucking chute. I mean someone saying I need to be loved and demanding 100k per week plus, give me 15 k per year and all show you love.
Pitter Patter. Awhhhh the happy couple in the piccie aint they sweet, the immaculate conception.
FFs its like Heat Magazine ,Hello and Ok combined.Who gives a fuck.
The only thing I can imagine at 1.00 am that poser calling foul or diving under the duvet.
Torres, I dont like him now, he looks like my older Bro both are cunts, only one with Ginger hair.
Prior to his Samson move and loss of his prowess. lol he looked like my sister, just my sister scored more regularly this last year, to the families embaressment.
I Refuse to comment on the Sport Blog as I am a Jock its just not right to rub salt into my fellow English bloggers wounds on Rom ANYWAY. lol its too easy regards Ingurland.
Mail on line is that serious thon story, its a fricken joke as I have said as have many lads on here, United bring on the youth and develop, if I was a trainee football player at Wastelands I would seriously think under this regime will i ever get my chance with this buying policy. No way.
@Paul Parker, I saw your comment to me, cheers, plus I watched you on Sunday on MUTV,you need to grow up mate Nial Quinn that lanky 6’4 bastard beat you at the back post, United V Shitty 1993.Paul try harder or you will get moved back to QPR or WET Spam.lmao
Being called from the pub, I bet your glad, lmao
If we do sign Gary Cahill it will be atleast two seasons before he becomes a regular as i cant see him being picked above Brown or Evans, that is if one of Ferdinand or Vidic needs replacing. I thought he was good when he was at Villa but he never really got the chance when Mellberg and Larrson (Larsen??) were playing. He could be very useful.
Joe Coles a twat. He cant be demanding wages greater than what we pay out especially when he isn’t half as decorated as most of the lads we have. He is a good sub at best and i cant remember a 90 minutes game from the odd looking bastard. His wages shouldn’t exceed 50-60000 a week.
The Ronaldo issue is a strange one the way the papers are reporting it. I feel sorry for the kid that he isn’t entering a happy family and getting the benefit of both parents. The kid no matter how much cash and effort would be part of his upbringing he will always wonder why his mum dumped him. Sad and i hope the papers have got it all wrong.
I thought it was a done deal with Torres going to Chelsea, it was rumoured all of last season. If i had to put money on it it would be Torres going to Chelsea and Anelka leaving. i realise hes a Liverpool player but i would love for him to come to OT, I realise thats wishful thinking, not because we haven’t the money (we do) its just Liverpool would never sell to us.
I think the Guardian is wrong, the English players are good enough to get to the quarters or semis of the word cup, its just very important you pick the right players. That in my opinion is the managers job and he hasn’t really been given enough blame for it. Throughout the qualifying he tried the likes of Agbonlahor, Lescott, Young, Walcott, Jagielka, Brown etc but when the tournament began he went with the same squad and formation that failed in the previous 3-4 international championships. Reverted to the easy option when under pressure – very Italian.
Yaya Toure the premier leagues best payed player, that is just fucking stupid. He has a terrible attitude and seems to have questionable loyalty. He is also not that good, I mean he was very quickly replaced at Barca. If Yaya Toure gets payed that much what the hell would they pay someone like Fabiano if they could get him, mind boggles. It is nice to see the arabs money coming back into the Brittish coffers for once.
@Wakey Nice one.
Why is there so little coverage on things like this? This does have a few ramifications.. it had a bunch of news articiles when it was “announced” a year ago, but nothing this side of xmas.
So to simplify your explaination:
Teams have a limit of 25 players, that are 21 years old or older. Anyone under 21 is fine, any nationality..
7 of this 21 has to have been a home grown player, basically anyone whos been in an English club from 18-21. This confused me before, I thought it had to English nationality, not a bought youth player from wherever who’s been here since 18 years old.
So regarding United if we do buy a couple more players this summer thats 5! to loan/sell. That’s alot :O
Costas @ 15:13″: “If it were up to me, I would look for another defende(like Kjaer for example) and a midfielder like Ozil. He won’t come as cheap as Joe Cole, but he may be someone we can get 5-10 years of good service from.”
I’m glad you’re not making these decisions.
The ONE guy in this WC who has looked like a ready-made UTD player has been Sebastian Schweinsteiger. The vision of Scholes allied a powerful engine. So far, he’s been the man-of-the-tournament. AND, he’s just 25 yet has something like 70 international caps and has been a first-teamer at Bayern for about seven years.
Furthermore, this UTD team is simply crying out for a player with Schweinsteiger’s blend of defensive awareness and offensive skill. Play him in the middle with Darren Fletcherinho (football genius) and most of the “issues” that have dogged UTD in key games – such as the one against Barcelona in Rome in 2009 – would be addressed. There is plenty of quality up-front and loads of depth in the defence but UTD’s midfield is still suspect because too many of the usual suspects are “unreliable” or else, like the Ginger Ninja, too old.
Slim @ 15:55: “The problem as i see it is trying to turn Rooney into an out and out striker like villa or even torres, RVN and so on. IMO he’s not that type of player, he’s to expansive and his game is all about attacking play, not strictly scoring goals.”
You, sir, missed the action in Jan/Feb/March when Rooney was – for a short while – “the-best-player-in-the-world”. The issue about using Wayne Rooney as a ‘withdrawn striker” or a “#10″ is not that “he’s to expansive” but, rather, that he’s too undisciplined and tends to run around like a headless chicken which leads to mental blackouts and red cards.
Fergy figured out WayneRooney’s best position in THIS team – what keeps people harping on about the 4-4-2 ? I just don’t understand why people think that this out-dated formation is key to UTD’s future.
Based on the evidence before us in this world cup, it is ironic that the guy who would suit the “withdrawn striker” or “#10″ would be Diego Forlan who has been simply terrific for Uruguay. But the ForlanTrain left the station a long, long time ago and it’s more likely that CR7/9 will return to OT than Forlan.
BJOlav @ 16:40: “Am I the only one to see Berbatov converted to a creative midfielder?
In a word, YES !
Kings @ 21″57: “In the summer of 2008, Fergie said on Sky Sports News that he had made a bid for a player who would significantly enhance the squad. Even though we knew it was going to be Berbatov,…”
Yeah, but…… SAF was wrong !
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=806278&sec=transfers&campaign=rss&source=soccernet
Now Listen This could well be the key to united doing the treble next season, Sir Alex,believe it of not, knows one or 2 things about football and manchester united as a team so please dont just discount this and lets get possitive
@Gotta Hate Tiny Tears
Its not gonna happen, fucking glazers david gill is a judas berbatov is shit blah blah blah barcalona are better -debt debt debt- Gary Neville is too old- bring back fuck tevez-
I know they’re both full of shit but the Sun and Mirror are both reporting today that Fergie’s made Wesley Sneijder his top transfer target for the summer – if both papers are reporting it on the same day then maybe there’s something in it?
He’d be the perfect signing for us but i just can’t see it happening for a few reasons:
1. He’s only been at Inter for a year and just won the treble, I’m sure he’s in no rush to leave
2. Number 1, but from Inter’s point of view – why would they sell?
3. Benitez… not gonna do Fergie any favours is he?
And before people come one commenting how Fergie missed the chance last year, or how we have no money… just for once, don’t bother. The amount of gems that Fergie has unearthed over the years is ridiculous and he’s not going to get them all before they become stars.
@GHTT – sorry mate, you must’ve posted that while I was typing. Hopefully Benitez will also prove a positive reason why the deal might go through – it’s not like Sneijder has any loyalties to him. There’s been rumours all summer that Fergie has been wanting to make one big signing, and this would be a perfect one. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see but all though I’m hesitant to get too excited over it I know if Fergie wants him he’ll do all he can to get him. And who the hell wouldn’t want the chance to work with the Master?
Kings – Hello mate. Harry just cannot fucking help himself. Mouthy cockney wideboy. Discussing his plans with all and sundry. Cunt.
@denton davey
Where did I include Schweinsteiger in my comment or say that Kjaer and Ozil are ready to play for United? Looking for playes that would walk into the United team through a World Cup is fruitless in my opinion. Yes, Schweinsteiger had one good tournament as a CM. How influential was he when we played them last April? Not a lot for me. At least with Ozil, Kjaer or any other youngster you have room for development as opposed to Cole or even Schweinsteiger. And that’s what i want for the club. Given how many established world class players flopped in this WC, then I wouldn’t say it’s the best criteria to go about our business.
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
On England I actually think the media again has to take a massive amount of blame. For all the stick Mclaren got his initial idea of trying to build an actual team and not the 11 most famous names picked and played even if it meant playing them out of position where they were ineffective.
Yes picking a load of new players and removing the older players who were past their best such as Beckham and start building a new team of young players was a risk and perhaps it would have seen us miss out on the Euros with that squad but as the older players hadn’t been cutting it was the way forward. However the media started to attack him and the young players who were still finding their feet got attacked and he was forced to backtrack to the older stars and playing players who couldn’t play together (Lampard and Gerrard), players who were past their best by a long way (Beckham) and playing players in positions where they weren’t as effective (Joe Cole as an out and out winger. He was always so predicatable and easy to defend against as an actual left winger). As such we failed to qualify for the Euros.
England needs to look to the future and more important than anything players have to be picked on merit and for the good of the whole team and not just because they have a big name and reputation. The media needs to back off and let this happen rather than being part of the problem. Ofc they won’t back off as the media like destroying British sport, just look at Tennis. EVery year Wimbledon happens and British players struggle and they start a character aassassintion on the players based on one tournament when if you look at it from a whole year you can see the improvements are happening. Thankfully the current LTA leadership has thick skin and largely ignores the press and focuses on their job but previous LTA leaderships were changing the plans on a yearly basis to appease the press. Ignoring the press is what the FA and the England manager needs to do if they try and build a young team for the future
Costas – Hello mate. Looks like Kjaer is off to Wolfsburg. How much have you actually seen of him? Certainly no Vidic, would prefer Cahill myself.
If World Cups are owt to go by lest we forget we bought Karel Poborsky on the back of one! Costas , denton didn’t say you mentioned Scweinstegier , more saying that you didn’t and he would be the key. But like you say he hardly pulled up any trees against us, although he was injured. Great player but why would he leave Munich? He is only 25.
@JD
People aren’t reporting it as its a fairly bland story and not a great deal to write about so won’t sell papers
I suspect we may hear mpre about it in August when the transfer dealings are strating to clear up and we have teams like Liverpool and City still needing to offload a lot of players and with such fringe players who may not get registered making a fuss to get a move. Also when some teams are in a position to seriously have to consider naming U21′s in their registered squad just to meet HG quotas
@bigphil2003
He did only join Inter because it was 3 days before transfer deadline day, Real were desperate to get rid of him and no-one else felt he offered value. So its not beyonf possability that he would be open for a move.
Also with a managerial change and Benitez’s history I wouldn’t be surprised if he was to become available. Italian football also isn’t the financial powerhouse its been in the past and Inter are a club that’s proped up by its owner so a nice profit may be appealing to them, especially as Rafa will want to bring in some of his own players at fairly high prices.
@King Eric
Morning. Haven’t seen plenty of Kjaer. Looked ok from what I saw at the World cup, but he is certainly no Vidic. I heard about him joining Wolfsburg. The reason why I mentioned him, is that he is the one talked about most when it comes to promising new defenders and that’s where I think we should focus on. Cahill could also be an option, I agree. 15 million souds a lot though.
I stand corrected about Schweinsteiger. He didn’t play in the first game at all. Probably an injury there as you say. I still don’t see him as the key, sorry. Just like I didn’t see Fabiano as the key when people here were raving about him. I appreciate the fact that these players are making an impact this summer, but they’ve been around for a while and by now I think we know whether they ever could play for United or not.
@Wakey – yeah you make some good points mate.
“especially as Rafa will want to bring in some of his own players at fairly high prices.”
About 90 of them most likely…
Paul the octopus did in fact predict a Spain win a bit earlier today. Interesting…
Rafa will want to bring in Paletta and N’Gog.
Toure … huh!.. He hasn’t kick a ball yet for City whom paid him outrageous 200,000 a week but surprisingly immediately urge to say that He will return to Baca one day and finish his career there!!!
Like you did well in Barcelona.. ha! Yeah! Barca Fans will be very very crossed as if you haven’t say thing like you’re doing now…. ha ha…LoL!
What’s a joke!City & Him, Suit each other though!!!
Now he is second highest paid after Cristiano by doing sitting on the bench for 2 years in Barcelona.. Scored very few goals which you can count by one hand.. and here we go again , City hasn’t got a brain to run Football club..but Manage to destroy the market and players’ salary…
City might think they ACTUALLY playing PES or something??? Get REAL City,.. I love to see Palatini New Law kick their ass.. in near future..
On other news, Cahill is good buy I think, Ronaldo .. this is off-side… sorry mate..! You scored but not actually count! Torres heading to Chelski … Yep! Retired and Crock, don’t give a damn to them.. England exit – because John Terry and Stevie Me bitching each other.. that it!
Its LIve TV Peoples
http://footytweets.com/manutd/news/318321
@GHTT
Thanks. Can’t recall United ever starting off the season with a late kick off. Not in the Premiership anyway. I prefer it though. It won’t be as hot as it would be if we played at 3pm.
@Costas
Actually I think Cahill at 15mill would be fair. The fee for Smalling is is 12mill rising to 14mill and he is raw. Where as Cahills more like Rio when we bought him, he isn’t yet world class and there are issues with his game BUT he performs to a good level week in week out and has the potential to world class. So 15mill to me is a bargin
@Wakey
If you look at it like that, yes, compared to Smalling, 15 million for Cahill sounds good. That’s why I wasn’t so crazy about us spending so much on Smalling.
Monday night football fucking sucks!
Forlan thankful to Sir Alex
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=6650537&page=1
denton davey @ 9:59
I cdan assure you i missed none of that. I’m glad he got his scoring streak going throughout last season not just the period you’ve mentioned and yes the lone striker role was his best position in that team, however as a players its not his best. i think its a lack of discipline with regards to the midfield and to some extent his lack of discipline to play in the withdrawn striker role.
If thats the case, then all the more reason why he should go back there, its a position he can play and a position he’s been playing since he joined us. There has been much ado about nothing regarding his goal scoring before last season, i can assure you i’ve had no problem with it. There seemed to be an obsession about him outscoring everybody, To be his all round game is just as important if not more than his goal scoring exploits.
Last season Fergie did try to play that way with Rooney behind berbatov, obviously that didn’t work out hence the reason why berba was dropped and an extra man added to midfield to compensate. I see it this way: would you play Lionel Messi as a lone striker ? I’ll answer for you . If SAF sees it as the way forward then no problem i’ll get on board, the only problem is a player of that much quality should not have to be stuck in a lone striker position at the mercy of his wingers. IMO we can still play Rooney in a withdrawn position playing off a striker and still have wingers. Having a player of his quality it will be a shame not to utilize those attributes that made us fork out 30 million for him.
You say 4-4-2 is outdated, i say thats a load of tosh. Any formation can be sufficient , so long as all players play their part. Barcelona play a 4-3-3 system but you wouldnt consider messi a winger would you or pedro on the left. . Strange i think Forlan is more likely to return to OT than Ronaldo and quite frankly not sure if i’d want CR9 back. i honestly think the guy has reached his limit, he still draw ooohs and aaaahhs from the crowd but i’ve got a big question mark on him
Hi Scott,
The Daily Mail ran the story about Rooney’s book and United have since taken it down from the website.
@Slim
The fact that Ronaldo is at the virus and having a different manager every season, he’s going to decline on the pitch as no one will control his behaviour off it
Just look at the fact that as soon as he leaves utd, he end up pregnating a random Amerincan women, whose identity he is keeping secret of which he has piad off so that he can have his son. How sad that a kid wont even know who his mother is
Can you imagine what Fergie would say about such disgraceful behaviour, which is why he encourages all our lads to get married early and settle down
@ Sayyid
The manager merry go round at Real wont help, like i said not sure i’d like to see him at OT, i know Fergie still likes him, cos he probably feels he knows him more than any other manager and rightly so.
Well we were spot on about United being blamed for Ingurlands World Cup exit its been over a week now and even today I’m getting stick about Rooney. Fergies comments although correct haven’t helped the cause. Joke, predictable every time although I was positive it would be Vidic to knock Ingurland out!!!
Sayyid – United covered up alot of Ronaldos antics and as for his decline in form, he did score 30 plus goals for Madrid last season.
i just cannot believe that Yaya will be getting 200K per week in wages….that is a ridiculous amout of money to make. nothing makes sense anymore with wage parity and actual performance.
Notorious – Spot on mate. Just have a look at the comments from the fucking abu’s and little Ingerlunders on this link. Absolutely laughable. The one near the bottom is best. Saying how he was burned out because he carried United all season. And how we should be called “One Man United”. Fucking pricks. If we are a one man team all these years how come Ronnie and Wayne never do fuck all for their countries. Some VERY bitter people who we just know will have it rammed down their fucking throats when Wayne starts banging them in next season. Cunts the lot of em. You can stick your fucking Ingerlund up your arse!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1292305/England-star-Wayne-Rooney-pressure-says-Manchester-United-boss-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html
@united.george
I think his net salary will be the same as it was in Spain if not lower, due to the 50% tax rate in this country, hence City will be paying much more gross salary than Barcelona
At least HMRC will be recieving more income tax as a result of Man City players wages
@King Eric
I was an England supporter but after Scott’s post about the history of England fans with UTD, I stopped caring about England (instead just followed Rooney’s and all the other UTD players progress
The whole England set up from the FA to the Media stinks of amaterism and hypocricy
One final and one semi final since 1930 is an embarssment
Turkey, Sweden, Bulgaria all have better records than England in recent years
And as for the Germans…11 semi-finals in the last 15 world cups says it all really…and the English media spend their time banging on about the war and posting racist headlines against the Germans. I bet those scum in the English media wish WE were Germany
Rumors about Cleverley going out on loat at Newcastle. Don’t know what ti make of it. I think it’s time he started training with us and played in the League cup…
@Sayyid
Don’t forget Greece.
In Euro cup competitions anyway.
“One friend told me that the United supporters still sing my name – it’s incredible, unbelievable. I am really proud they remember me.” – Diego Forlan legend!
I hope both Cleverley and Hernandez dont go out on loan….you never know if we end up with an injury crisis and would hate to have them elsewhere….
@tobbe
Dieeeeeeeeego oooooooooo
Dieeeeeeeeego oooooooooo
He comes from Uruguay
He made the scousers cry
Dieeeeeeeeego oooooooooo
@tobbe
I think the consensus amongst most United fans is happiness for Forlan.
Seems like a nice guy and has peaked since he left us. Shame it didn’t work out here though.
getting sick to death of the the criticism faces,the abu’s point at his scoring record for England but coviniently forgetting that the messi they all wank over has an equally poor record. Instead you have pundits praising mediocre players like barry , johnson and co its disgusting to say the least. Bet Roney will continue his goal scoring exploits at United this season, wonder what they’l make of it then
way off topic but i just have to tip my hat off and thank the Lord Sir Bobby is a part of our history, check this out.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1291778/Ive-seen-Wayne-Rooney-look-unhappy-did-playing-England-says-Sir-Bobby-Charlton.html
‘He’ll be OK with us. He wasn’t the only player out there, you know. We can’t single him out. We don’t want any witch-hunts, do we?’
So simple words. Yet the English media don’t seem to get it.
@ Costas
Took the words right out my mouth
MY God even to this day watching a 2 minute highlight reel on MUTV just there the guy still brings back wonderful memories- I love Eric Cantona
and the skill and highlights and everything is a credit to the manager that Sir Alex is how none could tap into that genius
@Slim – thanks for that, was a terrific read.
@Slim
RTE had a fantastic nvideo package after englands second game showing a year of him playing for united and a year of him playing for england
it looks like he gets a wank before pulling on a red jersey
and a kick in the balls before pulling on the white shirt with the 3 lions
Jonny Giles said he must be missing his young family because he comes across as hating been in the world cup
@ bigphil2003
Been having a pretty boring and drab day until i stumbled on that article.It made my day instantly, suddenly felt like being in company of the the man. Pure class. i envy the United player and others who get to be around him
@ GHTT
lol, who know what happened over there. Glad he’s on vacation and doubly glad he’s not injured. Come the start of the season we’ll see the smile spread across his face again. He had a shit world cup. so what. Confident he’ll get over it and i’m sure SAF will help him too
@GHTT
I know what you mean mate. Right now I am watching the DVD featuring the 2000 goals scored in the Fergie era. In the first seasons of the Premier League era Cantona really sticks out. And I have to admit that Hughes was a brilliant striker. Could have done with him to this day.
It’s also interesting to see how different football was 15 years ago.
Slim/Sayidd
It gets worse lads. Fucking Adrian Durham on talkshite tonight giving it large about Rooney. SAaying he used to be a good player but not anymore. Reckons he is nowhere near world class as he hasn’t done it for Ingerlund. Quinn to be fair stuck up for Wayne. Then a United fan called in to say that he plays with better players at United. Durham rubbished this saying “ok Are you telling me Fletcher , Nani and Valencia are better than Lampard, Gerrard and Milner”? (Fucking Milner!!) Seriously. The lad said yes course they are. Durham said no chance, the three Ingerlund players are better. Can you believe this? Trophyless Milner and Fat Frank better than Fletch and Nani. The man is a cunt. Then he said he had no idea why Capello called Scholes. Err Perhaps because he shits on those fuckers for Ingerlund. Then to cap it all there were dozens of fans calling in sticking up for him calling Rooney over rated etc. I just cannot wait for the season to start so Wayne can shove it to these cunts.
@KIng Eric
The whole world said United missed Fletcher when he was unfairly red carded and missed the CL final
Darren Fletcher is not any player he is a World Class player and those that do not believe it no fuck all about football.
Fletcher is a perfect example of letting a player develop to his potential – a player that took the heat from one Roy Keane and instead of bitching and throwing tantrums rose to the occasion to prove his worth
That is a sign of greatness
Darren Fletcher > Gerrard Lampard Milner and whoever else
Hang on
Paul Scholes Darren Fletcher > Gerrard Lampard Milner and whoever else
driving home from work this evening I tuned into talkshite as I have not done so for 3 months or more!
guess what?? that ginger cunt is saying that wayne rooney is crap, and that he is nothing more then a bully,and overated….he has been found out.
found fucking out was it not rooneys goals that got them there??
why oh why do I listen to all that shite on a shite station?
that ginger cunt and fucking radio station, more then likely blame bobby charlton for our defeat by the germans in mexico 1970!!
well that is it…………………………………fuck talk shite no more will I tune into that crap.
Wayne Rooney was found out for the overrated slob that he is. Just like Messi, Ronaldo and Kaka were. I am glad I don’t live in England to listen to this crap. Juornos from other countries, when they are discussing England’s failure they do mention Rooney’s injury problems as well as the fact that other players with big reputations didn’t live up to the hype either. I really don’t know what singling out Rooney will accomplish, other than fire him up even more.
How was Rooney found out? Ok, lets forget about the premiership. Didn’t this guy tear Milan apart? Didn’t he terrorise Bayern on one good leg in the second match?
@ King Eric
I’m so pissed of right now, words can’t express it. i don’t even want to get into the subject of these so called football analysts/pundits. Watching a group of twats on ITV (Keving Keegan,Gareth Southgate and Towsend)for the spain VS uraguay game and its a studio full of cunts. Everything that comes out of their sneering mouth is just gargabe especially Southgate.
Going back to the subject of Rooney, the fact that they are singling out Rooney just means they are looking or a scapegoat and are green with envy. At this moment in time no English player comes close. I don”t see anyone asking the question “Is Lampard a world class player”, or “Is gerrard a world class player”. I cant wait for wayne to start firing so the United Caller assertions that Rooney plays with better players will be justified
And to add to something that was mentioned. Gerrard and Lampard may currently(emphasis there) be better players than Fletcher or Valencia, but here’s the thing: Fletcher and Valencia are better players for Wayne. They play for him, unlike the other two. So when discussing why Rooney failed to live up to expections, lets take that in consideration. Unless the media expect Wayne to pick the ball from David James, go on a run past the entire opposition and score a goal.
what about that bastard terry? not a word said again,
he was utter garbage bet if he played for united something would of been said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not that I wish he did play for us.
@ Costas
Sadly i’m in the UK and its really disgusting the way they are sticking him up,i mean i really don’t get it. Was saying earlier that Messi also has a poor scoring record for argentina but no one bats an eyelid, coupled with the fact that he had a poor world cup, i dont care what anyone says. So did ronaldo and kaka. Read some utter shite somewhere trying to defend ronaldo that he didnt play well cos he was becoming a daddy. Its bad enough the media abroad look at England and call them arrogant and whatever else they label them as , we now have the country’s media pushing a bull shit agenda and questioning their best player. its absolute nonsense. i dont see anyone singling out barry for losing out to Oezil on the half way line. Nooooooooooo its Rooney isn’t World Class. utter crap. Those guys have got me pissed just when i was getting into a good mood
@Costas
Sadly Fletcher may never get the recognition he deserves (especially over those 2) for a number of reasons
1. He plays for Manchester United
2. He’s not an attention seeking cunt (okay i’m quite bitter here)
Unless he dribbles all the way from the midfield and does a 100 step overs dribbles the keeper goes back a fires a 35 yard shot. Goodness gracious lets be honest when did Fat Frank become world class anyway. He’s a good player but please, i’d stick with Fletch any day at least he still has a chance to improve drastically
What a goal from Gio.
I doubt very much that Fletch wouldn’t get the recognition, because he plays for United, we’re one of the biggest clubs in the world man. We, the United fans know how good Fletch is, no one elses opinion matters.
Diego again, but really poor from the keeper.
Sir Alex
Sign him up
: )
That boy Diego – what a player
Hang on didn’t he once upon a time…
Cancel the signing of Stekelenburg, what a balls up. lol
Great spoof on Newsarse re: Ceteh’s attempts to sign every player in the world!
http://newsarse.com/2010/07/01/immigration-cap-to-curb-man-city-spending-at-under-fifty-billion/
RedScot – I didn’t want to mention that mate, i know you rate him. There’s been some shocking mistakes from keepers in this WC, it can’t be the ball all the time.
Well done Diego! Come on Uruguay, you can do this.
Nice foul by Van Bommel leading up to the Holland goal. Cracking goal though.
Someone please please smash Van Bommel and break him… I can’t stand the twat… The fact he looks like Martin Keown makes it worse!
Only just about calmed down after stupidly listening to Talkshite today… I don’t know why I put myself through it…
Can’t wait till next Monday and the start of pre-season friendlies!
Hi Willie, nice to see you back on the dark side, lol enjoy your time in Gretna, I thought Gretna was only for shot gun weddings, lmao
On topic yes I do think he is a good keeper, but it was a blunder although the ball did not appear to deviate. And yes you are right there have been many keeper errors, but i do think the way the Jubalani moves is affecting the stoppers.
Psssst what did i tell you about expect some twists regards Brasil and Argentina.
Cmon the Cloggies. lol
I haven’t seen a player drag his country so far in a WC competition, since Baggio in 94.
@Slim
One good thing will come out of this. As long as everyone keeps focusing on finding scapegoats for another bad campaign, they are missing the bigger picture. Fergie said that in 2014 we will see a new Wayne. Unfortunately, we will see the same old England. Gerrard will be there, Lampard will be there, Terry will be there and Heskey will probbaly be there too.
RedScot – Yeah mate enjoyed it, very windy up there lol.
Just being told to let you no Willie, lol changed days at Rangers when you think in the West End of Glesga you used to have players like Gio van Bronckhurst. Sad days for your Scottish team, what a pile of tripe there is their now.
Ps Sitting with a few Sellick nutters. lol
I think Holland need to bring on AIG’s favourite Dutch player thon lad Eljero Elia, get him stripped. pls
Those were the days mate, but sadly thats what got the Gers into this shit, now they can’t even keep a hold of Boyd ffs.
Middlesborough and with that Star of United old, and Leeds and Coventry and Aberdeen and Dundee and……. lol
someone needs to take out van bommel, what a dirty dirty cunt
@ Linvoy says:
Jesus Christ you’re right he does look like Martin Keown, don’t think much of him to be honest
Cant agree more at Old Trafford and Munich last season, but not tonight. lol
Bring it on you Dutch Howitzer.
Its coming for the Dutch.
What did I tell you, the midas touch. lmao
I don’t like Van Bommel, but every great side needs that type of player. Keane, Bremner, souness etc. The dutch are playing like the old German sides, grinding out results, rather than great football.
Game over, batmans mate just scored lol.
Game over I always thought any side that beats Scotland twice in the World cup qualification campaign deserves to win the tournament. Ousted bye the World champions. lmao
@ Slim…. Keown was dirty Twat aswell… Remember when he punched Van Nistleroy and got away with it!
Van Bommel seems to be exempt from any punishment! I can’t help willing Diego to take him out with a 2 footer into his chest!
Sneider… Good player & now top joint scorer with Villa! Blatently never gonna come to OT… Which is a shame as I think he’d be useful.
For the life of me i don’t see why that twat van bommel doesn’t get a card, Ah well would love to see a Germany VS Holland final
Ha Uraguay go on and score, who knows another late goal
Squeaky bum time.
For all the lads and Lasses on Rom from Africa and more importantly Ghana, justice as been served for you all, get behind the Dutch now they saved you having to possibly see Luis Suarez lift the world cup.
It would have been a sickner almost as bad as watching Terry hold up the famous Jules Rimet trophy.
If you have any decency in your heart, you will ignore the Germans firstly.
Bets on Holland v Espana, lol
Over and out.
Finally van Bommel got a card, wonder if that means he misses the final
@ Redscot
Here, Here. It feels good even though that asshole van Bommel plays for holland
Great fight from Uruguay, but in the end the Dutch were better and deserved to go through. It might have been a different story if Uruguay weren’t depleted.
Hopefully whoever wins tomorrow will thump Van Keown, Robben and co.
Van Keown lol nice one Costas
Ha ha Van Keown! I hope he gets mullered in the final!
Does anyone know when our first pre-season game actually is? I thought it was on Monday against Celtic in Toronto?
But I’m sure they said on MUTV summer supplement that we FLY out on Monday? Surely we would get there few days in advance?
Anyone know? Plus if they are all being shown on MUTV?
Slim @ 12:54: “You say 4-4-2 is outdated, i say thats a load of tosh.”
I guess that we will have to agree to disagree – and you can disagree with some people who really know about footie like SAF, Jose Mourinho, Bert Van Marwijk, and Joachim Lowe. Of course, IF you had a team of galacticos then the 4-4-2 might work but, in reality, no team of galacticos can be kept together for long.
In the real world of team building, a single striker backed by five “midfielders” is the way the game is evolving. Whether you would call, say, Ozil, Mueller, and Podolski “midfielders” is a semantic issue – they track back and burst forward (kinda like old-fashioned wingers). This is the kind of counter-attacking system – or a variant – SAF employed when he joined up WayneRooney, CR7 and Carlitos in 2007/8 which led to the EPL/CL double. UTD would still play that way but the real world of “footie finance” got in the way and CR7 -> CR9 and Carlitos went for the ca$h at Wastelands.
As we saw last year – and spent many, many, many frustrating hours watching – WayneRooney doesn’t work with Dimitar Berbatov or, for that matter, Emile Ivanhoe Heskey or Jermaine Defoe. For whatever reason, WayneRooney is a much, much better player when he is given a role and required to fulfil it rather than having the freedom to be a street-footie player. He is also surprisingly good with his head – most of his goals during the purple streak came from heading crosses supplied by two out-and-out wingers rather than from “walking the ball into the goal”.
Therefore, I would suggest that for UTD to move forward it makes sense to build on last year’s successful system rather than trying to re-invent the 4-4-2 to accommodate Dimitar Berbatov/Luis Fabiano or whoever to play alongside WayneRooney. And, besides, the “big problem” for this coming season is, first, health which cannot be controlled and, second, resolving the midfield quagmire so that it can be properly organized around Darren Fletcherinho (football genius). That’s why I suggested that the healthy Sebastian Schweinsteiger (or Daniele De Rossi) should be the prime targets to move UTD into contention for the glorious 19th.
@Linvoy
The first friendly is on Monday July 16th against Celtic. Don’t know if MUTV will show it though.
So the Dutch have reached the final, despite being average and dull. Nothing new as previous similar sides went all way. They’re lucky Van Bommel was playing today, should have been sent of against Brazil. Today he should have got a red. He is unbookable indeed, it’s ridiculous. Had Snejider’s goal been disallowed, Uuruguay could have nicked it, the ref got it wrong; Van Persie was offside and was clearly interfering with play. Hats off to Uuruguay for fighting until the end, though they’re still a one man team, the one man is Forlan. Forget Sneijder, he has been the best player in this WC.
Villa has got plenty of praise and rightfully so. I wonder how many goals Diego would have scored if he had Spain’s midfield behind him.
@ Denton Davie am guessing your a Yank, no other bastard at this time of night talks such shite.
I sorta imagine nobheids like denton davey calling for Sir Alexs heid, fucking twat
RedScot @ 22:34: “@ Denton Davie am guessing your a Yank, no other bastard at this time of night talks such shite.”
Close but no cigar – I live in Toronto. As for talking “such shite”, you are not one to talk M8. But, wtf, this is all about opinions – mine, yours, KingEric, Costas, Scott and the rest of the gang. Besides, if we didn’t talk “such shite” then what would we do with ourselves ?
RedScot @ 22:53: “I sorta imagine nobheids like denton davey calling for Sir Alexs heid, fucking twat”
I’ve never “called for Sir Alexs heid”; but whether I am “fucking twat” or SAF can do no wrong is a matter of opinion – and yours ain’t worth much.
@denton davey, are you going to the united v celtic match then?
@ denton davey
Excellent response to the idea of Berbatov playing as a creative mid fielder
Dirty snidey Dutch cunts. Sick of hearing how they play the beautiful game when in reality they are nowt more than cheating, diving horrible bastards. Yes you Robben and Van Bommel. As good a player as Sneijder is he ain’t in the same league as Scholesy was even at 25.
denton is one of the best posters on here and has been for years. Don’t always agree but no need to abuse him for fuck sake.
@Costas
If we send him on a loan deal that forces them to play him for a certain percentage of games otherwise we can recall him immediately then going to Newcastle for 6months will be good for him. He was great at Watford but lets be honest the Watford team was awful so it is easy to look good and its a lower level of football. We need to know if he can step up to the next level and do so regularry so I would be in favour of him going for the first half of the season and then using that to decide if he is worth giving a chance to break into the United first team
united george @ 4:26: “@denton davey, are you going to the united v celtic match then?”
NO. Exhibition games are for the gullible – I don’t have any “need” to breath the same air as Giggs and Scholes when they’re going to go through the motions for forty-five minutes BUT they will be about 250 yards away on a plastic pitch.
I’m saving my pennies so that I can make a pilgrimage to M/C in the spring of next year. I’d also like to see some youth team/reserves’ action at Carrington, close-up.
I agree with King Eric in regards to denton. He didn’t even say anything wrong!