Comments on: After Queiroz and Mancini… Phelan Was The Obvious Choice? http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice a Manchester United blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:54:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: suhayl http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41222 suhayl Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:27:34 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41222 Lets get it clear...Mickey phelan is a yes man.....if he was so fuckin great..he would have gone on to manage teams...even teams in the lower leagues. The guy aint wanted elsewhere and neither does he want to. He knows his feet are warm under the table at ours. Face the facts...and i saw him play live for us. He was a shite player...and is at best a yes man coach...SAf tells him to do things and he just follows orders. CQ may have fucked up at present. but the guy had balls and was WANTED by world teams..south africa, kuwait, portugese u21...where HE yes HE brought through the golden generation of figo, costa, sousa etc etc etc. And he was in demand again when the latest jobs came up. Can you say that for mickey P????? Wanted by a national team????...i wouldnt want him for my indoor league. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Like Scott said....CQ is lightyears ahead of MP in terms of tactics, knowledge of european football, technical stuff, coaching etc. Why then did Saf nearly beg CQ to stay? Why did Saf say we tried in vain to keep him. Why did he say it was such a sad massive loss? Why did he then say when CQ left that the hole would be big to replace and that he left behind a legacy and training sets and regimes and implemented new methods that the coaches would now follow. WHY??????? MP a pioneer???????? the guy couldnt manage barnet. FACTS are SAF wanted another man..he went for other men. But with the season fast upon us and no time to start hunting for new reps...which would take time to get find and settle. And the dodgy start to our season..he went and promoted and took the easy option. HOWEVER that was with kid gloves. Cos many players this season have said..that SAF is more hands with coaching this season than in the past 6. WHY?????? Cos he doesnt soley trust MP. With CQ he left him to it. And CQ wasnt a yes man listenting to everything SAF said......SAF can be wrong too...yes he can and thats where CQ had the balls to debate or discuss atleast with SAF. MP do that???? The guys a fuckin tea maker. Im still fuming he's our assistant. Lets get it clear…Mickey phelan is a yes man…..if he was so fuckin great..he would have gone on to manage teams…even teams in the lower leagues. The guy aint wanted elsewhere and neither does he want to. He knows his feet are warm under the table at ours.

Face the facts…and i saw him play live for us. He was a shite player…and is at best a yes man coach…SAf tells him to do things and he just follows orders.

CQ may have fucked up at present. but the guy had balls and was WANTED by world teams..south africa, kuwait, portugese u21…where HE yes HE brought through the golden generation of figo, costa, sousa etc etc etc. And he was in demand again when the latest jobs came up. Can you say that for mickey P????? Wanted by a national team????…i wouldnt want him for my indoor league.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like Scott said….CQ is lightyears ahead of MP in terms of tactics, knowledge of european football, technical stuff, coaching etc.

Why then did Saf nearly beg CQ to stay? Why did Saf say we tried in vain to keep him. Why did he say it was such a sad massive loss? Why did he then say when CQ left that the hole would be big to replace and that he left behind a legacy and training sets and regimes and implemented new methods that the coaches would now follow. WHY???????

MP a pioneer???????? the guy couldnt manage barnet.

FACTS are SAF wanted another man..he went for other men. But with the season fast upon us and no time to start hunting for new reps…which would take time to get find and settle. And the dodgy start to our season..he went and promoted and took the easy option. HOWEVER that was with kid gloves.

Cos many players this season have said..that SAF is more hands with coaching this season than in the past 6. WHY??????

Cos he doesnt soley trust MP. With CQ he left him to it. And CQ wasnt a yes man listenting to everything SAF said……SAF can be wrong too…yes he can and thats where CQ had the balls to debate or discuss atleast with SAF. MP do that???? The guys a fuckin tea maker.

Im still fuming he’s our assistant.

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41130 Scott the Red Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:46:42 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41130 Bossdem - Since when has playing in European competitions been the same as having experience of European football? Coaching? Tactics? Transfer targets? That's what CQ brought to the table and Mancini would have done the same. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out Phelan doesn't have a great depth of knowledge in these things. Bossdem – Since when has playing in European competitions been the same as having experience of European football? Coaching? Tactics? Transfer targets? That’s what CQ brought to the table and Mancini would have done the same. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to work out Phelan doesn’t have a great depth of knowledge in these things.

]]> By: bossdem http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41125 bossdem Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:32:53 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41125 scot- mp has played for england and won a european trophy with us. scot- mp has played for england and won a european trophy with us.

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41100 Scott the Red Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:46:30 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41100 Bossde - I know he has no experience of European football. I wanted us to have a number two with good knowledge of football outside of this country, like CQ. Simple enough concept. Bossde – I know he has no experience of European football. I wanted us to have a number two with good knowledge of football outside of this country, like CQ. Simple enough concept.

]]> By: bossdem http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41095 bossdem Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:28:13 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41095 move on scott! u said in ur 'piece' that u had no idea what kind of job phelan is doing. so how on earth can u write an article on his suitability at this point in time? move on scott! u said in ur ‘piece’ that u had no idea what kind of job phelan is doing. so how on earth can u write an article on his suitability at this point in time?

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41089 Scott the Red Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:49:15 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41089 Bossdem - Like I said, I pointed out his positives and his negatives. You have a big problem with that, for whatever reason. Still, it seems like you are blinded to any of the positives I've said and only want to read the negatives, that's up to you. Don't imply that I might be a scouser just because I can see the negatives AND positives of our staff though. Like I say, I'm with the club on this one. They wanted a number 2 with European experience, which is why they went for Mancini. I think we would be better equipped in the CL if we had a number 2 with European experience. That doesn't mean I don't like Phelan though. I find it incredibly odd that you've reacted in such a way to a fairly tame piece of writing. It wouldn't do our fans any harm to unwrap themselves from cotton wool! Bossdem – Like I said, I pointed out his positives and his negatives. You have a big problem with that, for whatever reason. Still, it seems like you are blinded to any of the positives I’ve said and only want to read the negatives, that’s up to you. Don’t imply that I might be a scouser just because I can see the negatives AND positives of our staff though.

Like I say, I’m with the club on this one. They wanted a number 2 with European experience, which is why they went for Mancini. I think we would be better equipped in the CL if we had a number 2 with European experience. That doesn’t mean I don’t like Phelan though.

I find it incredibly odd that you’ve reacted in such a way to a fairly tame piece of writing. It wouldn’t do our fans any harm to unwrap themselves from cotton wool!

]]> By: bossdem http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-41082 bossdem Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:13:24 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-41082 scott- i think were all pretty clear what our feelings and opinions are on this. i didnt feel ur questions were worthy of any answers and the debate was getting a bit petty, but seen as u insist! ur first q. why did the club want mancini over phelan? well, im sorry, but i cannot answer this question for u. maybe u should forward it to the club. or maybe even the agent who came out with this statement. maybe we werent even after him. wont be the first agent to have told a lie would it?! the only other question i can see in ur last post was that u werent sure why i was so blinded to the praise youve given mp in ur article. well, if that article was an appraisal, i really wouldnt want to hear u have a go at the guy. its clear from ur piece u dont like him. if thats a positive article, im a scouser, or maybe you are. scott- i think were all pretty clear what our feelings and opinions are on this. i didnt feel ur questions were worthy of any answers and the debate was getting a bit petty, but seen as u insist!
ur first q. why did the club want mancini over phelan?
well, im sorry, but i cannot answer this question for u. maybe u should forward it to the club. or maybe even the agent who came out with this statement. maybe we werent even after him. wont be the first agent to have told a lie would it?!
the only other question i can see in ur last post was that u werent sure why i was so blinded to the praise youve given mp in ur article.
well, if that article was an appraisal, i really wouldnt want to hear u have a go at the guy. its clear from ur piece u dont like him. if thats a positive article, im a scouser, or maybe you are.

]]> By: Scott the Red http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-40970 Scott the Red Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:09:35 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-40970 Bossdem - why didn't you answer any of my questions? They were simple enough. Bossdem – why didn’t you answer any of my questions? They were simple enough.

]]> By: costas http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-40966 costas Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:52:40 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-40966 Of course we are.The run was fantastic.Everyone was responsible for that great run,just like everyone was responsible for the wobble.Personally i haven't talked a lot about the Phelan issue,until this moment.I have had my issues with it but i didn't want to talk because i felt that it would end up just like it did today.And to be clear with you,my thinking has more to do with track records rather than anything else.I couldn't possibly know what goes on at Carrington each day.But it's not only about negatives.Without Quieroz this year we have been more adventurous in the big games.Of course that hasn't produced the best of results but it was nice to go to the San Siro and play Inter like that. Of course we are.The run was fantastic.Everyone was responsible for that great run,just like everyone was responsible for the wobble.Personally i haven’t talked a lot about the Phelan issue,until this moment.I have had my issues with it but i didn’t want to talk because i felt that it would end up just like it did today.And to be clear with you,my thinking has more to do with track records rather than anything else.I couldn’t possibly know what goes on at Carrington each day.But it’s not only about negatives.Without Quieroz this year we have been more adventurous in the big games.Of course that hasn’t produced the best of results but it was nice to go to the San Siro and play Inter like that.

]]> By: bossdem http://therepublikofmancunia.com/after-queiroz-and-mancini-phelan-was-the-obvious-choice/#comment-40960 bossdem Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:15:09 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/?p=9226#comment-40960 costas- i never said that mp was anything. good or bad so im not going to try and convince you that mp is a better assistant than cq as im not convinced myself. the man has prob only just settled in to the role so im not gonna be silly enough to try and sound like i know how well hes doing. i just dont like the fact that people seem to want to make a thing of mp as assistant. its been quiet on that front whilst weve broke records over the last few months, and now we have a self inflicted wobble and....... anyway, i think were all clear where we stand on this issue! costas- i never said that mp was anything. good or bad so im not going to try and convince you that mp is a better assistant than cq as im not convinced myself. the man has prob only just settled in to the role so im not gonna be silly enough to try and sound like i know how well hes doing.
i just dont like the fact that people seem to want to make a thing of mp as assistant. its been quiet on that front whilst weve broke records over the last few months, and now we have a self inflicted wobble and…….
anyway, i think were all clear where we stand on this issue!

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