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Ahead Of Our Cup Clash Against Tottenham…

Manchester United take on Tottenham Hotspur in tonight’s League Cup quarter-final, the team we beat to win the competition back in February.

The teams were evenly matched in the final. The talking points from that day? 1. Cristiano Ronaldo got booked for diving after he was fouled in the box and Ledley King shamefully applauded the referee’s decision, knowing full well it should have been a penalty. 2. Aaron Lennon ran riot down the right wing with Patrice Evra doing little to stop him. 3. Ben Foster was the penalty shoot out hero, winning the League Cup for United.

But who will be victorious tonight?

Sir Alex Ferguson has claimed we will be seeing a similar team to the one beaten by Besiktas at Old Trafford last week. With one eye on West Ham away at the weekend, it makes sense. Although you do have to wonder how much luck our lads will have against top four hopefulls Spurs when they struggled against that Turkish side.

Hopefully, Harry Redknapp will have one eye on the weekend too, as his team travel to Merseyside to take on Everton, who are surely due a result. Which means more to Spurs? A trophy or a top four finish? Redknapp knows the answer to that one and will pick his team accordingly. To even things out slightly, I’m of course hoping he saves some of his first choice players for the weekend.

Danny Welbeck and Federio Macheda will be hoping to be first choice for the manager again, although after failing to produce any real moments of magic last week maybe their places will be up for grabs. Michael Owen would be all too willing to fill one, as would Dimitar Berbatov. Berbatov was an unused sub in our 4-1 win over Portsmouth at the weekend, after not playing since the end of October against Blackburn, where he scored our opening goal. Will the manager shift Welbeck to the wing to accomodate Berbatov or Owen or both? Quite possibly.

We’ll be looking for more from Darron Gibson, who failed to impress as we’d hoped last week. Anderson is now probably below Carrick, Fletcher and Scholes in pecking order, so will need to come up with the goods if chosen again tonight.

Tonight could possibly see the return of Nani, a player Sir Alex Ferguson has repeatedly insisted is not for sale, despite rumours of a falling out. The winger hasn’t played for a whole month, missing our matches against Chelsea, Everton, Besiktas and Portsmouth, and with Valencia and Obertan putting in some impressive displays, Nani really does have a point to prove if he wants to stay at this club.

Tonight will be a difficult one for United, no doubt, but hopefully our youngsters can prove the manager right.

 

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240 Comments

  1. Stretford Ender says:

    Time for a few boys to step up and be counted, will Tosic play any part?! Hope Gibson shows his true class and that Kiko runs riot

  2. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    What if nani plays? He’ll try his hardest to impress and shoot instead of pass pass instead of run further and annoy instead of create for our strikers, but maybe he’ll play and stop and think. Valencia takes that half a second and he seems to be a first team player in the eyes of almost everyone

  3. denton davey says:

    “Anderson is now probably below Carrick, Fletcher and Scholes in pecking order….”

    Scott, are you talking about the guy who was one of the best players on the pitch against the RentBoyz ?

  4. CarloSpur says:

    Should be a close match being that both teams have a strong second string.

    Sorry Utd boys but I think Spurs might edge it in a thrilling 3-2 win.

    Im trying to ignore all my mates telling me we’ve not won at Old Trafford in about 100 years!! LOL

    Wheres Lineaker when you need him???!!! ;0)

  5. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    denton davey
    just because anderson is a great player doesnt mean he’s top of the midfeilder list

  6. Staffred says:

    Fergie still sees somthing in the lad,but time will tell if his patients will run out with nani,tho wud still like to see him do well for the remainder of the season!! Hope the young lads do us proud 2nite,it’ll be tough but I hope he does play one or two experienced players like berba or owen just to give us that edge,come on reds!!!

  7. ashhotjet90 says:

    Foster , then hailed the successor to Edwin , now United fans are calling for his neck , i think he’s better than Kusczask . But Kusczask looked a great keeper against Portsmouth .

  8. bchilds says:

    I’d be happy if the same team that lost against Besiktas started tonight.

    C’mon United youngsters, you are good enough!

  9. RavRed says:

    All i can say is c’mon lads lets play well with verve, passion and attacking nouse, as we need to finish off in the final 1/3 !! Hope the lads have been having shooting and penalty practice for this one !? Enjoy the game everyone ….GGMU !

  10. HARGREAVES' CURLY HAIR says:

    Looking forward to the game tonight. i hope tosic features as a sub and i hope gibson can redeem himself. ando needs to up his game today to try to prove to fergie that he can rely on him against top opposition
    my starting 11:
    kusczak
    neville brown vida da laet
    nani gibson ando obertan
    owen berba
    subs: foster rafael evra fletcher tosic welbeck kiko

  11. Altonian says:

    Would be good to see Owen get another full game under his belt.

  12. themufc says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/football_focus/8384199.stm

    Did anyone see the prize Rooney gets at the end of this clip

  13. TinManUnited says:

    Obertan to get his first tonight!!

  14. Stand up for the Red Army says:

    Nani should start, he’ll be eager to prove his critics wrong. Hopefully he will.

  15. Xyth says:

    I think Fergie should play stronger team than against the turks. Secure the result first and then give few more younster some time on the pitch.

    I think Nani will get his last chance tonight. If not, than he may as well get packing soon.

  16. PaddytheRED says:

    You have gotta be taking the piss man!!!The lilly whites are gonna get the shit kicked out of them tonight by the CHAMPIONS!Just like we stepped on ye lastyear to win the bloody thing!We are no Wigan mate, ye wont be putting anything past us!We have at least 2 players for every position on the field unlike yerselves and we have money to spend in Jan on the likes of David Villa and mabey a midfielder in the calibre of Yaya Toure or David Silva.We are in a grand position at the moment in all competitions!Chelsea will start falling in Jan when the African cup of nations starts, just you watch us being crowned CHAMPIONS for the 4th time in as many years!!!!COME ON U REDS

  17. spenlunc says:

    Someone tell me the Indian time when the match starts..

  18. rooninho says:

    the carling cup is a good trophy but more importantly it is designated for united’s young players who desperately need many more games. let the youngsters play and get the first team experience they need. i’d rather have them learn on the job in these matches than in the prem or european games.

    @radzio

    thanks for the link!

  19. Welbz19 says:

    Welbeck must play lets not forget it’s his goals that have got us to this stage of the competition!!

  20. Scott the Red says:

    Denton Davey – The same Anderson who got less than 15 minutes in our last match and didn’t get off the bench the match before. It doesn’t matter how well he played against Chelsea. Carrick, Scholes and Fletcher are all picked by the manager ahead of him these days.

  21. Mohit says:

    @spenlunc – it’s from 0130 am on zeesports.

  22. Gaffer says:

    Spot on Scott about L King. As SAF about pompey pen:

    “You see these things every weekend in the penalty box. If you are saying everyone who wrestles at a corner or tugs at a jersey concedes a penalty kick then that’s fine. But it doesn’t happen that way and this linesman has changed the whole course of normal decision making.” Sky.

    Drogba vs Brown. Evra vs Chelsea and Besiktas. Say no more. Countless times United are the team for officials to show they can cope. Its not if desicions are against us. They are, and will as long as United are succsessfull.

    Counting 19 come may makes the achievment even bigger.

  23. Djunfitforwork says:

    Personally -I hope the side is slightly stronger than against Besiktas – a second defeat in a week for the youngsters would not be great for their confidence -plus it would put an end to the Carling Cup option for the season if we lose.

    I also PREDICT that SAF will field a stronger side -but good luck to the boys whoever plays.

  24. BristolYid says:

    Love the shamefully getting ronaldo booked bit, this is one of the biggest cheats in recent years despite being a quality player he played for the foul as he didnt have control of the ball. When he does that against your lot when you play real madrid you will know what i am talking about. This is a player who jumped in to the ball knowing the defender couldnt get out of the way.

  25. Dani says:

    This is the night for the Zoran. I hope, pray and cast a spell to see Tosic tonight!

    3×0 for United. Great display by the team, Macheda and Nani on the score sheet.

    You heard it here first!

  26. Ashish says:

    Our best central midfielders so far this season are Fletcher and Anderson.

  27. Chan the man says:

    Hope Tosic gets a chance tonight

  28. holycow says:

    I can not really understand why someone wants us to buy krasic.. we already have valencia on the right wing.. obviously he is one hell of a player, but valencia is just as good, and his link-up play with rooney is phenomenal.. if krasic was a left winger i would be like crazy for us to buy him, but he is not
    btw someone is having a laugh
    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/david-maddock/Why-I-think-Liverpool-will-still-finish-in-the-top-THREE-let-alone-top-four-article240039.html?

  29. Wazza says:

    Your opinion on why tosic isn’t figuring in the scheme of things scott? First the exclusion from the champions league squad, then not getting a look in the first team..

    I hope Tosic gets a chance today. I absolutely adore his potential and he’s got bags of potential.. surely SAF isn’t missing that. But I wanna know why he’s not given a look in more often. Yeah, there’s nani, obertan,valencia, giggs..but he’s been left out of the champions league squad so he really should be getting his chance to shine in the league cup and fa cup atleast.

    And I think it will be berba and owen up front.

    The whole nani fall out might have been blown out of proportion, but nani sure is under discipline treatment from SAF. Guess he will come out trumps on his next chance.

  30. Ulster Red says:

    i was at the northern ireland v serbia game a few weeks ago and tosic was superb their best player on the pitch that night, its strange he always starts for serbia but hasnt really had a proper chance at united, i also hope he is given a start tonight

  31. vozi edward Yugulle says:

    I think nani is a very talented player but the level of expectation and scrutiny is weighing the poor lad down. nani in the colours of portugal is totally a different player, he needs playing time in the so called insignificant matches so as to freely express himself.

  32. theres only one Keano says:

    hey guys anyone heard of redrants.com you will catch me on there giving my anger on some total twats who call themselves united fans.

  33. Aig alex is god says:

    Spenlunc. 1 30 am indiantime.live on zee sports

  34. Welbz19 says:

    Have u heard this cunt Durham on talk shite absolutly makes my blood boil! The guys a cunt simple as that!

  35. theres only one Keano says:

    well if anyone does go on redrant.com you will catch my name on there has I am called on here theres only one Keano. I am telling you people there are so many plastics on there who say they are united fans. the main asshole is GROGNARD who is canadian who thinks fergie is too old and should be sacked along with most of the team.

  36. theres only one Keano says:

    Welbz19
    what has that idiot said now, in all my years of supporting united I have never seen so much crap thrown at united yet all the problems united have had they are still up there. for christ sake we have not even gone on the run liverpool have had. we are winning and if we see the other attackers and midfielders step up has fletcher giggs rooney have done its happy days. the way the media some united fans have treated man utd for me united are almost like jesus. despite how many times they get wiped and beaten down like a dog they keep coming back stronger than ever. Cmon united fans get behind the team and show all these twats ronaldo is no longer a shadow casting over our club.

  37. sanj says:

    is there going to be a live blog for this match? it isn’t on here in the states.

  38. Red Ranter says:

    theres only one Keano:

    Yes and you’ve been banned over there too. You came there as Steve, and you were on here as manutdchampions2008 etc etc. And you’ve had a history of making racist remarks at another commenter over there in the past. I have your IP address, and I know fully well that you go around changing usernames. Pot, kettle son.

    Sorry lads for butting into your conversation, and sorry Scott for butting in your blog comments like this. You folks carry on, I just needed to tell the others in case they didn’t know who this person was.

    Cheers, and come you reds for Spurs!

  39. sanj says:

    @Red Ranter,

    there’s only one Keano is definitely NOT manutdchampions2008.

  40. theres only one Keano says:

    Red Ranter
    who is he sorry but I have never had that name

  41. Berbatovs' love life says:

    Does anybody miss Tufty???…didnt think so!

    United 3- Spurs 1

    goals for Owen, Obertan, and Nani!!

    Glory Glory…

  42. Red Ranter says:

    Oh I am pretty sure of that mate. I have proof. Nevermind, I don’t want to get into details right now. And it’s not necessary to do so either.

  43. theres only one Keano says:

    sanj
    believe me I am not him he is a disgrace I have checked him out and I am not him believe me I would never say that shit about united

  44. sanj says:

    @Red Ranter, actually, maybe you are right….

  45. tegbe says:

    what’s the lineup looking like? has it been announced?

  46. Red Ranter says:

    sanj,

    I have a lot of IP address proof and such like, but as I said, I wouldn’t go into that. Even otherwise the bad grammar, lack of punctuation and the Berbatov hatred (at least in the past, dunno about now) gives it away. :)

    Anyway, I should be off now, really :)

  47. Mohit says:

    @theres only one keano – agree about the redrants mate. They are just soooo negative over there. I’ve stopped going there a long time ago.The so called united fans there want half of the team to be sold and SAF to retire.it’s ridiculous as well as disgusting.

  48. sanj says:

    @Red Ranter,
    I stand corrected, mate. I was mistakenly thinking of another Keane related name that posts on here regularly.

  49. aig alex is god says:

    some news about the team

    Dimitar Berbatov returns to face his old club Spurs as Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson shuffles his pack again after the win at Portsmouth. Ferguson was stung by criticism of his young brigade after the Champions League defeat against Besiktas at Old Trafford, but he has shown faith again as Gabriel Obertan, Danny Welbeck and Darron Gibson start. A rest on the bench for Ryan Giggs tonight. Spurs captain Robbie Keane is back after being restricted to the bench against Aston Villa and starts up front with Jermain Defoe

  50. theres only one Keano says:

    sanj
    well I am not him believe me I have been trying to back this team and anyone saying fergie should get the sack is a joke

  51. rooney the new king says:

    well berbatov starts lets see if he starts showing what he imaade of

  52. Costas says:

    Kuszczak-Neville,Brown,Vida,De Laet-Obertan,Gibbo,Ando,Park-Berba,Welbeck

  53. Costas says:

    Subs: Amos,Carrick,Fletcher,Giggs,Tosic,Giggs and MAcheda.

    No Nani. Call me surprised on this one.

  54. aig alex is god says:

    @costas

    thanks mate for the news. no rafael.i am surprised.nev needs a rest

  55. Rob the Red says:

    If Nani is fit then he is in big trouble!

  56. PrahaladtheUnitedFan says:

    Guys any idea why the twins arent starting? I know Fabio is injured/returning from injury but what about rafael?

  57. Costas says:

    @AIG:

    No problem. I forgot about Rafa. I hope he didn’t pick up another knock.

  58. aig alex is god says:

    Man Utd: Kuszczak, Neville, Brown, Vidic, De Laet, Park, Gibson, Anderson, Obertan, Welbeck, Berbatov. Subs: Amos, Owen, Giggs, Tosic, Carrick, Fletcher, Macheda.
    Tottenham: Gomes, Hutton, Bassong, Dawson, Bale, Lennon, Jenas, Palacios, Bentley, Defoe, Keane. Subs: Walker, Huddlestone, Pavlyuchenko, Crouch, Naughton, Corluka, Rose

    if i am not mistaken this is a full strength side.why was harry talking rubbish about league being the priority

  59. Drew Vader says:

    Big test for Ritchie going up against Lennon…

    Sucks for Rafael. Sucks for Kiko. Really really sucks for Nani. He must be off. I guess Fergie didn’t appreciate his comments from the portugal camp…

  60. Drew Vader says:

    AIG — Their full strength squad would not have Bently or Bale anywhere near it!!

  61. aig alex is god says:

    i guess nani may have picked up a knock or something but it is strange to see that he is not getting starts and yet fergie is defending him and saying he wont sell nani.maybe he will play at the weekend but on current form cant see how he will get in place of valencia or giggsy

  62. Costas says:

    @AIG: I never doubted that Harry would give it a real shot.Lets hope our team can do the business.

    @Rob the Red : Agreed, but here’s what i don’t get. Just a few days ago Fergie said that there is no problem with Nani. Could he be preparing him for Upton Park?

  63. Rob the Red says:

    If Fergie says he is on his bike then the price will drop.

  64. Nectarine says:

    Nani is definitely on his way out. Not even on the bench tonight and he’s not injured. But I don’t mind, I don’t like him much. You can bet he’ll set the world alight at some other club though. They always do.

  65. aig alex is god says:

    drew

    bale in place of assou ekotto and bentley in place of huddlestone are the only ones who would not have otherwise played.otherwise it is a strong team and bentley and bale are decent players arent they?

  66. aig alex is god says:

    i frankly dont care much whether we win or lose. just hope the young lads do well.his is just another step in their development stage that i am sure will see them become great players in the future.hope to see macheda and tosic at some stage

  67. Costas says:

    @Rob the Red : Good point. I don’t know what to think about Nani anymore. I have defended him a lot but i seriously doubt if he will ever make it.

    @AIG: Yes they are decent players and in desperate need of games. It’s a strong team from Tottenham. We almost signed Bale at one time.

  68. aig alex is god says:

    da laet has a job on his hands against lennon.wont be an easy night for him

  69. Corea says:

    LINKS LINKS LINKS!

  70. Costas says:

    Evra has been tortured by Lennon enough. We might as well give someone else a shot,lol.

  71. rooney the new king says:

    its strange there is no nani what happened to him

  72. keano says:

    can’t watch the match tonight! anyway to watch it online?

  73. keano says:

    THANKS!

  74. aig alex is god says:

    @keano

    welcome mate.

  75. jellybean says:

    kick off’s in an hour, right? wow….nani really landed himself in hot water, i knew right after he came out bashing fergie that he’d never get a game. what a jackass…why talk the talk if you can’t walk the walk? he got ample opportunities this season before he opened his big fat mouth and now he’s gone and fucked himself. anyway, i’m just glad p.i.g’s playing, but what’s with rafael? i hope he isn’t injured :(

  76. bchilds says:

    Evra did well at WHL this season against him, De Laet’s going to have it tough tonight though.

    Foster can’t even make the bench?! Is he injured cus if not that’s a bad sign!

  77. Mahesh says:

    Nani and Foster finished, at least close being so, anyone?

  78. bchilds says:

    Got to agree Mahesh, if they can’t make even the bench in a Carling Cup game at home it doesn’t look like they have a future!

  79. 7 theking 7 says:

    Am i the only onee not liking berbas new hair cut??

  80. bchilds says:

    @7 theking 7

    Looks like he’s in his 40′s! Very weird!

  81. 7 theking 7 says:

    Yeahh not good , PRefered the old frock , Gotta feeling welbeck and obertan on teh scoresheet tonight!

  82. Macedonia_United says:

    woooooooahaoooooooaaaaaaaaaaaa

  83. bigshowfardy says:

    What a strike Gibson great goal

  84. 20legend99 says:

    Gibbo’s got a hell of a shot.

  85. aig alex is god says:

    GIBBO.WHAT A STRIKE.

  86. Tonybee says:

    Gibson has gone quiet after his goal….. Wellbeck needs more help up front

  87. Tonybee says:

    that Bentley is shit aint he….

  88. Macedonia_United says:

    wwwwowooooooohhhooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  89. Tonybee says:

    keep on being quiet Gibbo ….when you can bang a fucking cracking 2nd like dat…..

  90. bigshowfardy says:

    my god

  91. keano says:

    BRILLIANT!

  92. Macedonia_United says:

    berba is extraordinary

  93. Mahesh says:

    my lord, does gibson have a lovely a sweet strike or what!

  94. aig alex is god says:

    my word!!! gibbo may not be able to dominate the midfield but BOY HE CAN STRIKE THEM!!!

  95. TheRadLegion says:

    Gibson is a class!!

  96. TheRadLegion says:

    Does anyone think the way Obertan passes the ball is fast and very unpredictable..(in a good way)?

  97. Tonybee says:

    Bentley….. more like a fucking Skoda…..

  98. Nectarine says:

    I’ve never rated Gibson apart from his shooting skills, but I would love it if he could step up the rest of his game cause he’s got such a thunderous shot with both feet.

  99. Tonybee says:

    WELL….What about that half then…..

  100. mikekelly12 says:

    Where are all these kid bashers now?!! The only real diference is we have one older head in there in Berbatov. Thoe boys are doing ok and like SAF says, its about getting that experience!

  101. jellybean says:

    guess all that bad press really pissed gibbo off!!

  102. Corea says:

    yes, that guy can shoot. tottenham clearly weren’t aware of that. complacency ?

    again we are sloppy in defence but so far we are lucky in 2 games running.

  103. aig alex is god says:

    not the best half of football we have played.great goals by Gibson but spurs have dominated the game and have been prevented by some great defending by vidic. we need to control the game more.ando has been poor and gibson despite the goals hasnt been able to control the midfield.

  104. Corea says:

    Nectarine

    i second that mate.

  105. bchilds says:

    Performance nowhere near as good as the Besiktas but Gibbo has pulled out a couple of stunners, that curler for the second was a beaut!

    Well done lads, let’s kill ‘em off in the second half!

  106. TheRadLegion says:

    I think his distribution is good, I don’t know why some people rate Gibson low.

  107. Costas says:

    Gibbo can certainly hit them can’t he?

    Not a very good game overall, but i am not complaining. For once we are taking full advantage of our chances. Vida is a rock today.

    Oh and i don’t like Berba’s haircut. He doesn’t have much hair on the sude if his head and i think the head band looked better. But still, his touch is brilliant.

  108. phaka sa red says:

    gibson two goals but sorry, not dominant enough in midfield thb. no offence but not united quality, bar set too high by the likes of, keane, ince, carrick, scholes, veron, robson, butt not to mention wingers like giggys, becks, ronnie and the like, sorry but gibson no where near talented as this guys,good enough for the likes of hull i guess but not united, wouldn’t bet on him against the likes of barca , chealsea and the likes….xavi,yaya, iniesta,keita,busqets or chelseas essien, lampard, ballack, deco, mikel, cole sorry but gibbo not in that class.

  109. Xyth says:

    Aniother goal should do it.

    Sad farewell to Nani, after such a promise. What a shame!

  110. Wayne wonder Rooney says:

    Great Thunderbolts by Gibbo…
    But Vida is the Star Performer at the moment… V cud av well conceded 2goals if it wasnt for this Iron Man (vida)

    Here’s Hoping for a MO7 goal… Pls Sir bring on Michael Owen for atleast half an hour..

    No need to be worried bout Nani if Sir is saying he is stayin then there is no doubt his future is here!

  111. Wayne wonder Rooney says:

    Obertan is having a poor game…

  112. jessetto says:

    get tosic on

  113. Chris20LEGEND says:

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    hopefully there’ll be a bit of that new years weekend :D

  114. mikekelly12 says:

    We all hate leeds scum!!!

  115. xusen says:

    I have just uploaded the gibson goals, check them out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYcaYZzVzFk

    Two nice goals

  116. Ishaq says:

    I am officially a Welbeck hater.

  117. Wayne wonder Rooney says:

    @ishaq
    same here bro… He is way too selfish… Kiko is better

  118. Wayne wonder Rooney says:

    Anderson is having a blinder…
    Please bring on Michael Owen

  119. Ishaq says:

    Not just selfish, he cant collect a ball whilst he is on the run. He just cannot trap unless he’s standing still.

    And his runs are stupid. Wrong option. His thick…

  120. bigshowfardy says:

    C’mon gibson for a hat trick

  121. bigshowfardy says:

    TOSIC!!!

  122. rooninho says:

    well done ando! come on tosic!!!!

  123. Tonybee says:

    Gibson 2 – Tottenam 0

  124. Corea says:

    Goodnight guys. Should have fallen asleep after the first half.

  125. aig alex is god says:

    good peformance by the lads.they have to improve but these experiences will help them mature and get better.

    VIDIC IS IMMENSE.DONT SELL HIM.PLEASE FERGIE!!!!

  126. bchilds says:

    A very boring game in my opinion, am glad it’s over as it was dire viewing. Good performance from the kids again, Darron Gibson will get a lot of plaudits because of how he took his goals, the second being a fantastic strike.

    Vida looked solid as well, some positives to take out the game although Spurs really did dominate in the first half.

    I’ll take another boring game this weekend though if we can win!

  127. Macedonia_United says:

    tosic should play more….

  128. mikekelly12 says:

    Vidic back close to his best…..another game under the belt for the youngsters. OK, not the best game in the world but some positives and another semi final.

  129. OneUnited says:

    Cant stand Welbeck at all either. Yes a bit harsh but i have had enough, he is selfish with a horrible touch. Kiko is much better. Anderson has been excellent in the second half, Vida is a rock, Brown again played well, neville had trouble with Lennons pace but didnt make too many mistakes, de laet needs to stop running into players and constantly losing possession, park full of energy attacked and defended well, berba and obertan were both good. A good performance considering we won against a good team.

  130. Macedonia_United says:

    berba class, vida motm for me , great strikes from darron

  131. JTrappe says:

    lets see what the fucking idiot journalists have too say about our kids now…….. bet they all feel as stupid as Alan Hansen the stupid bastards.

    Well done tonight lads really silenced the critics tonight

  132. rooninho says:

    ronaldo got 6 and 9 goals in his first two seasons at united. he held on to the ball too much, too many stepovers, too many tricks, poor finishing…. luckily united were rebuilding and he was still able to get 29 and 33 appearances in those first two years.

    point being- we are so spoiled as united supporters i think we lose sight of how young some of these players are, and how much first team experience they lack. players like welbeck, kiko, and gibson, don’t have the luxury to learn and improve on the job like ronny did. they are trying to break into an established dynasty with very limited opportunities. we need to listen to what fergie says about them, and try to see them as projects not finished articles.

  133. bchilds says:

    Gibbo MOTM? Nah, gotta be Vida!

  134. Wayne wonder Rooney says:

    @bchilds
    yeah it was a bit boring… But thats wat u expect when d fringe players are playing against spurs 1st team..
    Crouch is shit… Don Fabio should look for other options.
    I feel Macheda is really gonna help us this season.. He always impresses.. Bring on Chelsea in the semi-final at Old Trafford n lets see if they hav a second team lol

  135. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    to any fuckin idiot who started post in he past and mostly in the last week that started with
    @Gotta hate tiny tears
    I disagree mae Gibson is not blah blah blah blah I have to say take your finger out of your ass and for the last 3 + years what Ive been saying about Darron is bang on.this Kid is as good as the mirror will tell you lumps and me is . The 4-3-3 system will pop up in the future with gibson hargo and the football genius with berba rooney and to be named playing ahead with the worlds strongest bench that one day when a team playes a 5 man midfield to defend against our future will be hit with a 4-4-3
    darron gibson is not only the future he’s the untouched present
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptFwxyk3kRw

  136. mikekelly12 says:

    I’ll take City in the semi’s!!!!

  137. Ulster Red says:

    i was one of the people having a go at welbeck gibson and kiko last week, and the only 1 out of that three im prasing tonight is gibson, real solid performance and two great goals as his reward, still not as hopefull for welbeck and kiko though, but i hope im proved wrong!! also loved the “we all hate leedscum” went on for around 10 minutes, great

  138. Costas says:

    Well done by the younsters. Isn’t Harry suck at the sight of Fergie?

  139. Costas says:

    sick i meant.

  140. Park, Park, wherever you may be says:

    People expect too much!
    Ok Wellbeck needs to work on running the channels & Gibbo needs mid-experience BUT we’ve seen a fine controlled performance by many facets of our team.

    Welbeck just turned fucking 19 & I can’t bear it when fans write him off!
    That exact 11 has probably never played together ever and some of you lot are coming up with damning negatives?? After a comfy 2-0 win vs TottenfuckingHAM! The ABSOLUTE Vidic bravery aside we were comfortable and all the players pulled their weight!! Great win!!

    Loving the chants! Feed the scousers was magic as they are ordering party hats and that!

    @ manutdreal2008/there’s only one keano – … … ..mwahahahahaha
    I can’t believe you came back!! Different tactic this time ey? Learnt what plastics meant… historic name… you nearly did it! Even did a Judas on yerself (Mwahahaaha!!) Here’s a life tip – Go n learn spanish, and forget you ever watched that famous 2008 CL final.

    The kids got extra confidence, the experienced got more match fitness, and doubted players made ground on overall estimations. 10/10

    Talkshite are even bigging us up!

  141. keanesmagichat says:

    Most of ye pricks on here should be ashamed of yourselves…
    Do ye realise how young most of these players ye are writing off are? Some wanker posted “i am offically a wellbeck hater” fuck off you nonce and support arsenal or some other club, my guess is most on here have never laid eyes on old trafford.. ye are a disgrace and most united fans would consider ye the plastic cunts that ye are…
    The young players did a great job tonight, another step in their development, of course they will make mistakes that is what young, inexpeirenced players do…
    Plastics like ISHAQ and WAYNE WONDER ROONEY FUCK OFF CUNTS

  142. keanesmagichat says:

    PLASTICS=ISHAQ and WAYBE WONDER ROONEY.. Never proper fans in a million years, writing off players under 22 years of age.. writing nonsense on the internet while their mother cleans their tidy whities and between wanking off to starship enterprise for the 3rd time today

  143. Costas says:

    @Park, Park, wherever you may be:

    Very well said mate. At the age Welbeck is in, I will take selfisness over no talent at all. At 22, I will take Gibson’s confidence and shooting ability. He has the time to become more commanding in midfield. How many world renowned midfielders were commanding at 22 anyway? I also think Kiko is on the right track. I think expectations raised a bit after last season, but he has to pace himself. He is only 18.

  144. Costas says:

    @keanesmagichat:

    Very well said too. The kids just knocked off a full strength contender for the top 4.

  145. keanesmagichat says:

    Costas

    Cheers mate, its been a while got a bit fed up with some of the posters on here. Needs to be said though, players need to be allowed express themselves and make mistakes.. what kind of policy do the platics on here want? One mistake and the lad is finished, out the door?

  146. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    keanesmagichat
    calling someone who is now a wellbeck hater to go support arsenal has more genius in it that anything i think ive ever read on this site
    To compare people who write off youth ,who pride themselves on producing youth, at such a young age after a bad result . not game but result .4 years ago,darren gipson played his first first team game for manchester united in this comp. giggs as a kid for arseal with his final ball at 17 would of been shipped of to spain at the crack of a window opening.

  147. Costas says:

    @keanesmagichat:

    I agree. It needs to be said that the Besiktas game was a disappointment. I would lie if i said that i wasn’t fed up. But sometimes young players can learn from these games. The Beckham-Scholes-Nevilles generation got humiliated by York in their first season in the first team.

  148. rooney the new king says:

    Gotta hate tiny tears
    yet despite how many times arsenals youngsters fail people still think they are the next great thing, when did this start 2005 and we are in the year 2009.

  149. Costas says:

    Speaking of Berba and his new haircut, nice hairplugs on Mark Clattenburg…

  150. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    costas
    dirty money buys alot of hairplugs

  151. Costas says:

    Oh, and nice video GHTT. I bet you are a proud Irishman tonight.

  152. Rob the Red says:

    IF these youngsters had no chance of making it they would not be at Old Trafford, a certain Scottish gentleman would have seen to that!

  153. Costas says:

    You are right about that GHTT,lol.

  154. keanesmagichat says:

    costas and ghtt

    it maddens me to hear so called fans giving out about young players, especially one from longsight, just down the road from old trafford.. these fellas know nothing about football and very little it seems. “im offically a welbeck hater” i dont think ive ever seen a stupider post on this blog

  155. Rob the Red says:

    Hairplugs????

  156. Ulster Red says:

    vidic was 1st class kept keane and defoe quiet enough, hes getting back to his best, the crowd were very good aswell tonight, carling cup game and people who dont get to the league/c.league games probably made up the majority of the crowd and they made the most of it

  157. Costas says:

    @Rob the Red:

    It seems like he got some hair implants.

  158. Rob the Red says:

    Oh right! Cheers Costas

  159. Tony Starks says:

    Hey there people.. Like the 4-3-3 of second half, made the team look very solid against the spuds first team.. I think Welbeck was born to play as left or right of the front 3..

    Wish Nani could be given another lifeline we need him this season, Obertan needs a lot more work done on him than we think.

    How solid was Vidic today? Liked Park’s game too… as for Gibson – never been a favourite of mine, but give credit where its due – good shots

  160. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    I got called a c u next tuesday on this site for backing “shit ” players like gibson
    WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU NOW

  161. Tony Starks says:

    not to judge on one game or two… will still be surprised if Gibbo is first team regular this time next year (or following year).. but I don’t mind being surprised, write off no one – not even Nani (apart from Foster)!

  162. kel says:

    Gibson did well to score the goals. But if he wants to stay in the first team regularly, he needs to improve more. His strength in midfield is weak and that result him in getting a yellow card and quite slow in closing down and not aggressive enough on opponent.

  163. IcelandicDevil says:

    @keanesmagichat. WTF dude? So the millions of fans who are “unfortunate” enough to never have been to OT are all to be considered plastics? Jesus fucking christ get your head out of your ass mate. If only people who had been to OT were allowed to support United you wouldn’t be watching the players you are today running out at OT. I fucking hate it when people start talking about real fans and automatically assuming that people who aren’t born in England or haven’t had the opportunity/means to go see United are plastic fans.

  164. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Tony Starks
    Im 4 years watching the guy
    I didnt jump on his back after he scored in our last game last year
    Jonny Giles 4 years ago told Irish people we could be looking at the next Roy Keane and I ,as always, jumped on the jonnywaggon. He usually knows his shit and this time he seems to be bang on .A.I.G. on this has always commended me on this and calls Gibson “my man” but the fact that after 81% pass succes in one half in a game that United lost 1 nil then people jump all over this kid cause he blasted 2 shots high is unreal. I was hit by the slating because Ive backed him and noone was givin him a chance . People need to out on a Manchester United jersey and look at themselves in the mirror and ask if they should be sporting that shirt. Gibson got slatted worse on this site by some than Phil Dowd does by me on a drunkin rant about refs.

  165. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Kel
    are you messing about his yellow card. That yellow card will stand for him in the frst team more than 2 shots on target 2 goals. It wasnt a silly late tackle on a touchline. it prevented a straight attack on goal by a player who ran through 2 players to get to the outside of a united box. Stuff Fletcher is commended for.when all else fails get a yellow(or red ask ole against newcastle) card will do

  166. keanesmagichat says:

    icelandic devil

    i was not calling people who had noy been to old trafford plastics, merely stating that those writing off wellbeck and giving out about him were plastic fans and guessing that those who were doing the above had probablt never laid eyes on old trafford

  167. Tony Starks says:

    ghtt..

    have been aware of him from the Wolves loan days, must confess will never be a fan of his style – but that’s just me and it doesn’t mean he can’t be a top player. Anyway good luck to the guy there is nothing personal against him, of course we should support all United players 100%.

    Thing is we all think we know everything, but if any of us even knew a few things then we would actually be doing something in the game – not typing stuff on here

  168. Park, Park, wherever you may be says:

    Cheers Costas!
    Like Fergie said, they need time & by losing you learn how not to lose!
    Fabregas is the only (former) mid teenage breakthru that comes to mind. The rest have to ply their trade. Like the great Fletcherinho has done!

    I wish we played 433 more often! and used Berba as a freerole playmaker! Him popping up everywhere today made the difference. Freeflowing.. mmm
    my 433 line up 4 the Hammers would be
    VDS
    GN WB NV PE (GNev in as hammers don’t have much wing pace)
    DF
    MC A
    AV DB WR
    ^
    Competition in the squad must be as rife now as cholera is in Leeds!!!
    hoping for another record breaking streak!!! UNI T E D

  169. IcelandicDevil says:

    @keanesmagichat Fair enough mate, must have misunderstood your comment about people who have not seen OT. Agree that people shouldn’t be writing the kids off after one defeat, just as I feel they shouldn’t be going overboard after one win like some people on this forum are prone to do. I like most of these kids, however I am not entirely convinced by any of them. Lots of potential there, but we haven’t really seen anyone take their chance and run with it. Gibson has a good shot on him, however he doesn’t do much else for me and I don’t think he will make the grade as a first team regular, but he might find a role as a 5th choice CM or make us a few million pounds next summer. Welbeck looks like he could be brilliant, and I’d prefer him as our first striker off the bench as Owen offers very little, and the only way for Welbeck to get that consistency and fulfill that massive potential is by playing real games with the real first team. As long as SAF can keep Kiko grounded I think he could become a big star, but I’d still prefer Danny ahead of him this season. I’m not buying into the hype regarding Obertan, but there’s glimpses of huge potential there, hope I’m wrong about him. The youngsters I am most excited about though weren’t playing today, Petrucci, Ljajic who is coming in January and Ravel Morrison are all supposed to be the type of player we are lacking, that creative flair type who can unlock a defence. Wonder how long before we see Petrucci play in a League cup game? Probably won’t be this season given how far we have progressed. /end rant/random rambling :)

  170. King Eric says:

    keanesmajichat – Spot on fella. Some of the comments EVEN after beating an in form Spurs beggar belief. We controlled most of the game. Anderson tonight was excellent and so was Gibbo. Just got back and tired so off to bed but well chuffed with the win. Shoves it down the throat of the abu’s including Paul Miller who was this morning saying Spurs would be way too strong. The media will have to have a rethink.

    phaka sa – Not United quality? Do one pal.

    By the way I have been thinking for some time that theres only one keano was manutdslagger but his comments had changed somewhat. Has he been rumbled tonight?

    PS After Defoe’s five goals there were calls from certain people to sign him. What do they think after tonight? He was fucking awful.

    “We all hate Leeds Scum”

  171. King Eric says:

    PS Laters Nani.

  172. King Eric says:

    Welbz19 – What was Durham the cunt saying pal?

  173. King Eric says:

    By the way it was great to see the majestic Berbatov back. Simply quality. two or three times he was surrounded by 3 Spurs players . He just rolled the ball back or through their legs and left all 3 for dead.

    Find it odd that people still don’t rate Gibson. A tough goalscoring midfielder. He will do for me. Everytime he gets a game he looks like hitting the onion bag. Also it is weird to think that Anderson is still only just 21. Because he has been here a while now I think alot of us and me included expect more but that isn’t the case. He was superb tonight. His consistency will come in time as he grows.

  174. scruffynat says:

    my word. ol’ harry redknapp was moaning about the atmosphere in the stands tonight, even using it as part of the reason for losing.. i didn’t get to watch the game as i live in Singapore and they weren’t showing it here… to those lucky guys who get to watch our boys at OT, are harry’s comments justified?

  175. King Eric says:

    Sorry for the multiple posts but just seen a podcast on the times site entitled “Chelsea are Europe’s strongest team”. Is this a joke? The mighty fucking rentboys who have NEVER won the European Cup. The love in is getting fucking silly. They have proven fuck all in Europe and aren’t in the same league as United or Barca. The papers are already back tracking about our kids. Wonder how long before they start believing United who have dominated football for the last 20 years almost , 3 on the trot title winners and current Champions may actually have a shot at the league. Fucking idiots. Lets see how many of the rentboys great youth system start tomorrow. I tell you now it will be a big fat zero.

  176. theboogeyman says:

    I too thought theres only one keano and MUC08 were the same because of the way they typed. I didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to wrongly accuse him.

    Then I saw he was obsessed with Grognard and his being Canadian.
    denton davey lives in Toronto, that makes him somewhat Canadian, but you wouldn’t call him a plastic, would you?

  177. Welbz19 says:

    He was saying about giggs being in the sports personality vote that it’s purely sentimental and he is not good enough to be in the top ten!! Then he tried to say that he was blagging a living cos he isn’t good enough for united anymore which we all know isn’t true!! He then tried to justify his point by saying Chelsea wouldn’t want to sign him if he was available! (also said he wouldn’t get in there team cos deCo is obviously a better player) He did say giggs was a great player but he tried to say he’s no longer great! It was just a disgraceful way of trying to make a flawed point!! Sorry if I haven’t made much sense but honestly this is what it sounded like on the radio needless to say every single caller said his Comments were absolutly ridiculous!! Still fuming now!!

    Thought the young lads looked good bossed the game after a shaky first twenty minutes!! But god it was fcking freezing tonight!!

  178. Welbz19 says:

    Forgot to say that I normally avoid talkshite like the plague but was in my brothers car and he wouldn’t turn it off!! So he’s a cunt aswell for making me listen to it

  179. sanj says:

    I was not able to watch the match today, but from what I’ve read, sounds like Berba had a good match. I’ve really missed his “calming” presence in our lineup (in addition to his slick passing and brilliant football brain). I really think the trio of Wazza, Berba, and Valencia can be lethal.

    I have been slacking on my posting lately and had not noticed there’s only one Keano’s posts. Funny more than anything… wonder how he feels about Real Madrid’s “best team in the world” losing to Barca.

  180. rookiko says:

    Darron Gibson>Stevie Me

  181. keano16 says:

    Fergie said that Spurs were the better team in the 1st half n i have to agree with him,we looked a bit shaky a we couldn’t get going,definitely better in the 2nd half.Thought that Berba was class tonight,good to have him back,Gibson played well,Vida and Brown solid as usual and was good to see Kuszczack making a few good saves. I wasn’t fully convinced with Anderson and Obertan,but overall it was a decent performance. Nani wasn’t even on the bench and that’s now the second game in a row that he’s not been included in the team at all,does this mean that his future is marked? On a different note,how good was hearing “We all Leeds scum” being belted out for half of the 2nd half?

  182. manchuchu says:

    I have more patience for these kids than I do for Nani. Does that make me plastic?

  183. Dan_Utd says:

    Did Berba miss place a pass today, he was probably my favorite player to watch. Vidic had the entire Spurs team in his back pocket, PIG did pretty good. Anderson did a fine job in the midfield, now the kids need to beat Shitty and Leeds in both Cup competitions.

  184. kel says:

    @GHTT
    I still feel he is abit weak in commanding the midfield. Maybe im used to the fletcher style. But i am not writing him off as i had high expectation on him which results in me being more harsh with him. He needs to improve more on his all round game to get in the first team regularly. For now, he can only be play in the league cup.

  185. bigphil2003 says:

    Welbeck is so shit and he’s so fucking selfish! What’s that you say? He’s 19? And he actually set up Gibson’s second goal? Oh… maybe I should watch more football before jumping on a bandwagon. Plebs.

  186. jespermoses says:

    Thought Ritchie De Laet had a great game along with Gibbo obviously.

    Berba didnt put a foot wrong and although Spurs were the better team I thought in second half we were under no pressure at all really.

    Wembley here we come.

  187. bigphil2003 says:

    @GHTT “I got called a c u next tuesday on this site for backing “shit ” players like gibson”

    Made me laugh my ass off. cu next tuesday – did they see gibson next tuesday? Hahaha.

    Also did anyone catch the Giggsy: Man for all Seasons programme on Sky last night after the game? Fucking awesome trip down memory lane!

  188. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    everybody for United very very well , took that result of last week and up’d there game the midfield of gibson and ann-der-son-son-son were excellent with berbatov infront of them ctrl alt de laet and wes were excellent even thou they usally play as cover for gary neville who has no pace but experience to win over a lennon. .P.I.G. has done it again to piss of Foster. Welbeck did ok after coming on at halftime but did better as a sriker when he was a winger if that makes sence and…….what???….welbeck was on in the first half??? never seen him. Vidic was the Vidic we love Gabby was the same that we’ve seen for the last 5 weeks pure raw young footballer who has to just take half a second more to be a first teamer which will come with a few more games and on the Nani news font to make his United life that little bit worse Park created and made the right desisions .

  189. Stretford Ender says:

    Had the first comment may as well have the last, as I predicted Gibson worked the magic…. Where were you all? Could have done with some new faces in the croud last night. Good result, some good performances and Fergie looks likely to start giving these lads some PL game time.

  190. King Eric says:

    Welbz19 – That twat Durham is a wanker. He whips up controversial topics for the sake of getting United fan’s backs up. It certainly works with me. How the fuck can he say that Giggsy isn’t good enough for United? He is United! Its not just United fans that think he is top drawer this season but most other clubs fans . He must be the only person with this opinion and perhaps the bitter bastard wife beater Collymore. Not good enough for the rentboys? Is that a sick joke? He is worth more than Lumpard, Deco, Mikel and Ballack put together. Bossed those cunts in January. I cannot wait for Chelsea to hit a rough patch as I will be straight on the phone to the likes of him, Collybore, Quinn, Green etc.

  191. King Eric says:

    Keano16 – Alright pal I am surprised that you were not convinced by Anderson. I thought he was top drawer last night. Along with his performance at the bridge I would say it was his best in a United shirt for some time.

    Summat else I don’t think anyone has mentioned. We haven’t conceded a single goal in the cup yet and none from open play in our last three games. A sign that the defence may be hitting form?

  192. doncobaino says:

    sorry i don’t think Gibson is good enough at the minute. Am I less of a United fan for demanding only the best play for my team? hardly. two great finishes, if he could improve, his tackling, his passing and positioning we might have a great player. But in several games for united he has failed to show any of this qualities.
    Anderson was superb

  193. doncobaino says:

    Talksport’s Durham- is a clueless idiot.

  194. King Eric says:

    doncobaino – There was nowt wrong with his tackling, positioning or passing in the main last night. Thought he had a decent game.

  195. doncobaino says:

    last night was arguably his best game, although up until united scored (even until the second) we were being overrun by a spurs midfield. which was worrying.

  196. Costas says:

    I also believe that Darron requires an lot more work, but as i said yesterday, he is doing just fine fir his age. Think about midfielders like Lampard and Keane and how long it took them to reach their peak. Not to mention a certain Darren Fletcher…

    Also i would like to add that we have to be very careful with the critisism of our players this season. Foster and Nani in particular have got a lot of stick(i am not excluding myself from those who do it), but we have to remember that the current squad was chosen by Fergie. He really believes in it. He had the Ronaldo money to go and buy a goalkeeper, a midfield enforcer or a highly rated winger if he wanted, but he stuck with this bunch. It’s his risk and hopefully he will be rewarded for it.

  197. Welbz19 says:

    Oh that cunt collymore got involved aswell then he fucked me off saying that what Strauss achieved as England captain was not worthy of being sports personality because what he achieved – being the main man in an ashes winning team wasn’t a great world sporting achievement, whether u like cricket or not winning the ashes is a massive deal in this country it’s one of our national sports for Christ sakes!!
    They come out with such utter that I’m sure even they don’t believe!!
    Sorry everyone for the rants but I’m still fucked off at the lack of respect that was shown to someone who’s the greatest premier league player ever!!

  198. King Eric says:

    doncobaino – Why is it worrying pal? Our midfield consisted of three young lads and Park whilst their’s was pretty much full strength. Once we switched to three in the middle second half we dominated.

    Costas – Good post and morning mate. Even Fergie though looks to have given up on Nani. Is this to teach him a lesson though or will he be going in January do you think? I reckon he will stay but he really needs to knuckle down. Tosic even didn’t put a foot wrong when he came on and put a cracking ball through to Wellbeck.

  199. King Eric says:

    Any news today Scott ?

    How about Macheda has just signed a 4 year extension. Great news. I thought he did well when he came on last night. We looked a hell of a lot more dangerous going forward when he came on and switched Danny to the flank.

  200. Tony Starks says:

    YEs Kiko Macheda is my favourite amongst the young players, he’s the only no.9 in our whole squad at the moment.. I just hope he progresses to the top level..

  201. King Eric says:

    Tony Starks – I am sure he will mate. Great pace and showed superb strength last night a few times.

  202. AlphaRS says:

    @Wazza
    Tosic was not included in the champions league squad due to the restrictions on none EU players in squads.
    Which is a shame really because he starts for his country but not quite ready for United?

    @Theres Only One Keane
    Grognard and his incesent moaning, bitching, and inhibility to accept a good counter arguement is the single greatest reason I stopped going on redrants.com. Red Ranter has on numerous occassions had to put him straight. Grognard is cnut of the highest proportions.
    That coupled with not enough stories being posted in a day on the website itself.

    @Tony Starks
    4-3-3 rules! Shame is that since Ronnie left we don’t quite have the players to make it work as well now. If Valencia and Giggs were better at shooting and scoring we could make it work once again. I don’t think Berbatov fits in well to a 4-3-3 either.

  203. doncobaino says:

    It was worrying, BUT then united got to grips and i thought anderson shone, which is good. so a plus can be taken that united weathered the storm and ended up winning the game comfortably. No doubt about it this is one of the best groups of youngsters we have had in a while. forwards, midfield and defence, we have promising youngsters all coming through.

  204. doncobaino says:

    …in all positions i mean.

  205. Costas says:

    @King Eric: Hi mate. The Nani situation is a weird one. I don’t think Fergie has given up on him from an ability standpoint. I think that Nani’s comments are still stinging a bit. Nani hasn’t featured in the last 4-5 games and i think it’s for that reason. As for your question, it’s tough to say. Fergie has offlaoded players in the past due their public comments. Jaap Stam comes to mind. But in this case, Fergie might also see it as a challenge to bring out the best in Nani. I don’t think he has given up on that just yet,

    Oh and of course the news from Kiko are great. I said last week that he hasn’t been able to recreate the magic from last season just yet, but he is a raw talent and he has great potential. In Kiko, Welbeck and Gibson we have 3 youngsters who ae developing quite impressively. Welbeck for example has that Henry ball control,Kiko’s body movements are very impressive and Gibson is already becoming famous for his shooting ability. It’s not easy to develop your abilities at such a young age. For example, after Nicky Butt, none of our other academy midfielders made it. And for a while, Fletcher looked like following that pattern. At the same time Macheda and Welbeck are the first academy strikers that have a chance at making it at the first team since Scholes(even though he became a midfielder later on). What i am saying, is that recently we haven’t had a good track record at bringing midfielders and attackers through the academy. This is the first class in the last 15 years that shows real promise.

  206. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Berbatov was as slick as the fonzes hairdo yesterday

  207. Ulster Red says:

    ghtt
    more like fucking jedward…only messing!

  208. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Ulster Red
    I heard with liverpools season failing by the match days torres is looking for a life line out with a tube of hair gel and a ferjedward Pocket full of dreams

  209. Ulster Red says:

    ghtt
    torres doesnt use gell, he gets stevie me and our jamie to reinact thers ‘something about mary’

  210. Welbz19 says:

    @costas spot on about the quality of the 3 you mentioned! Plus there’s alot more in the youth and reserve teams at the minute!!

  211. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Ulster Red
    I bet carra uses the poster of Sir Alex he hides under his mattress j=hidin from the eyes of the FSW

  212. Ulster Red says:

    lol you def could be on to something there, a poster for every title winning year

  213. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Welbz19
    I dont think Ive ever seen such a strong reserve team. There is so many stand out players apart from the days were there would be 2/3 you’d see that would make you sit up and take note but uniteds reseves has about 8 or 9

  214. Ulster Red says:

    plus tom cleverly doing really well at watford

  215. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Ulster Red
    just to mix that sentance up abit to take credit for it
    Watford are doingwell because of Tom Cleverly
    They’d be bobbing in the bottom if it wasnt for that guy
    9th is strong for them

  216. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    speaking of the youth that will make it in the future heres Wazza with a top read http://wazzasaidso.wordpress.com/2009/12/02/corry-evans-hope-to-make-it-big-one-day/

  217. Ulster Red says:

    well they are both doing well, he has been scoring plenty of goals, do you think we will see llajic (forgive spelling if wrong) much in the first squad or will he be like tosic and hardly get a look in?

  218. Ulster Red says:

    ghtt
    good read hopefull for him aswell, this is no joke i knew jonny played for Greenisland FC and he was the same age group as me, i played for hillsborough boys who where in the same league as greenisland im near certain that i would have played against him at some age group, also i tell the mates that i tortured him lol

  219. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    I dont understand the underline stick Sir Alex gets on this site because of the fact that tosic doesnt play more in the first team. who will replace ? take Giggs out for him. Hes been used sparingly with other compitutions playing in the reserves alot and he can grow. He’s Giggs for the future but at the moment United have a Giggs. Llajic will play the same as Tosic id say when he gets hear but from what Ive been told by a celtic scout That he’s gonna be excellent in his words “if he develops as he should United could sell him on for 80million again” If this was all truth then He could well get an Obertan enterance into the side

  220. Ulster Red says:

    its not stick fuck sake its just most people on here would have thought they would have seen a bit more of him

  221. doncobaino says:

    just read this on the times

    One to watch

    On the subject of talented youngsters at Old Trafford, keep an eye on Ravel Morrison. I was speaking to a prominent figure at another leading Barclays Premier League club a few weeks ago who was positively frothing at the mouth talking about the 16-year-old midfield player.

    We in the media are too often guilty of talking up a player too much, too soon, but Morrison is a hugely gifted individual, with a remarkable turn of pace, close control and a keen eye for goal.

    In time, he could become that most precious commodity – a free-scoring midfield player. And United haven’t had one of those since Paul Scholes was in his pomp. [Cristiano Ronaldo, for all intents and purposes, is a forward]. Better still, Morrison is from the tough Manchester district of Wythenshawe, where his name attracts a buzz of excitement and he’s already attracting quite a following on YouTube

    anyone got any views on the guy?

  222. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    doncobaino
    Ravel Morrison is fast quick feet smart and has a crisp powerful shot . Not a slagging cause I like the 2 guys but he’s like a young defoe with a bigger frame

  223. trevor says:

    @Gotta hate tiny tears

    I too am shocked by the stick not only fergie gets but from some of our fans!

    Its quite funny on game days during the matches when were all watching online. Somepeople are calling for players to be substituted after bad passes and such!

    For me with regards to Tosic – Who is in a better position to judge when he will be given first team football. Alex Fergusion who watches him in training, Gets reports on him from all his coache & who has the most footballing managerial experience on the planet -…….. Or one of our Supporters (probably never played football to semi professional level never mind management!)

    Nani – I fear time is close to being up for Nani. He hasnt been able produce steady performances. He doesnt look consistant enough just yet & looks to have a public fall out with the gaffer!… Some fans want him shiped out straight away and some might want him shot!…… I would love to give him some more time, i honestly think he is going to be a cracking winger in years to come!……..Do we have the time to wait? That i dont know!

    Critism of Giggs and Scholes – Any mathces where giggs and Scholes play and the result isnt going well. They are the first to be singled out! In Matches where they have had an off day and although every player has them……… For me they still have something to give to this team. Fergie is the best to judge!

    Parting note!

    In Fergie we should Trust!

  224. Tony Starks says:

    saw Morrison play really well against Chelsea in FA Youth last year, don’t think he’s been as impressive as everyone says in the academy this year.. I think he would do well playing with first team players..

  225. sanj says:

    @trevor – “In Fergie we should trust.” Don’t think anyone can say it better than that.

  226. denton davey says:

    I DID watch the game yesterday although I did miss the games v. Besiktas and Portsmouth.

    Last night UTD gave a very tidy performance, with Anderson and Vidic playing exceptionally well (in a highly-visible kind of way) and Wesley Brown doing a kind of ghost-in-the-machine job of sorting out danger. Gibson’s two strikes were excellent – they had to be because the forward play was again not-inspriring. (I’m not slating Berbatov but he was not playing centrally and forward while Welbeck still needs too many touches, most of the time.) I liked the more agressive forward play that happened when KikoTheKid came on. The news that he has signed a four-year contract is most welcome because I’m thinking that by the end of 2010 he could very well be the “first-choice” center-forward, partnering Wayne Rooney – or playing in front of Rooney/Berbatov.

    Kuszczak did well in goal, too. It would appear that Ben Foster has let his chance slip through his fingers. Hopefully, Edwin will decide that he wants to continue playing.

    I also watched the RentBoyz toy with TheArse on Sunday. Much as I hate to admit it, they have been pretty impressive for the most part – but I take heart from knowing that they’ve also been fairly lucky with injuries to their “spine” and have gotten the rub-of-the-green on crucial refereeing decisions in their most important win so far. The press always want to big-up a non-UTD team – and to be able to big-up a London team is sheer joy for them. So, I usually take what I read online with a sprinkle of salt, preferring to believe my own eyes and my own eyes saw that UTD more-than-matched them a few weeks ago, on the road but were jobbed out of three points by poor refereeing. It’s not the first time – and it won’t be the last time – that poor refereeing has a serious impact (and I’m not Irish !).

  227. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Travor bang on mate I read it all the time on this wheres nani why isnt brown back in the first team yet whats up with tosic why isny de leat in the champions league team, all questions to be asked by fans if you want some enlightenment but then they end with those 4 words you used “in fergie we trust”

  228. Welbz19 says:

    @ghtt couldn’t agree more! I have a friend playing for the reserves so I go regular and the quality of football that the young lads play is immense! Was talking about it with friends trying to guess which players would make it as first teamers and we went thru the whole team and made strong arguments on about 7 or 8 of them making it as at worst premiership players!! Standouts for me James, drinkwater (who was doing very well at Huddersfield until he picked up his injury) king, eikrem, c.Evans (as a centre half) dudgeon, cleverley!! So much strength!!

  229. Costas says:

    What about Tom Cleverley guys? I know he is on loan now, but how did he fare in the Reserves the last few seasons? Is he someone that can break into the first team?

  230. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Costas-simple answer is yes
    Welbz19 -how could you forget brandy

  231. Welbz19 says:

    @costas I think he’s got a real chance! His loan only runs until jan so hopefully he can get a few games in the first team 2nd half if the season! As for when he was in the reserves first season as a reserve player he played full back and looked very average IMO! but since he’s moved into midfield he’s looked very good!

  232. Welbz19 says:

    Ghtt – Ye forgot brandy unbelievably quick, sure I forgot a load more aswell didn’t even think about the acadamy! Frightning the talent coming thru at that level Morrison, cofie, tunicliffe, keane, pogba, fryers, brown, plus more that I can’t think of right now!!
    That’s the different between us and everyone else we make class they try to buy it

  233. Costas says:

    Thanks for the answers GHTT and Welbz19.

    I have a special place in my heart for the kid. He scored in the only United game i had the pleasure of watching at OT. He has to make it!

  234. Park, Park, wherever you may be says:

    Denton, Bang on as always! and as always, we shall overcome!!

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