Derby day was massive this year because for the first time in decades City were tipped to actually stand a chance – not because of derby day unpredictability, but because they actually had good players.
For us to batter them like we did for the second half really should have put them in their place but it looked as though the bragging rights had been stolen away from us when Rio Ferdinand bizarrely chose to try to flick the ball over Craig Bellamy’s head which lead to City’s last minute equaliser.
The overwhelming feeling of sickness and anger was almost too much to bear and several fans leapt out of their seat, rushing to the stairs. Little did they know they were about to miss one of the greatest moments we’ve seen at Old Trafford, particularly in recent years. Who on earth would ever have thought Michael Owen would have been behind that moment?
I was amongst many United fans who thought the news stories linking us to Owen were a piss take. “He’s not senile yet!” someone said to me about the manager, when I questioned whether there might actually be some truth to the rumour, and we chuckled away.
My honest reaction was devastation when I saw Owen at Carrington but quickly had to get my feelings in check and get behind the manager. He was a United player now so there was no point throwing our dummies out. He signed an incredibly modest contract, he was clearly over the moon to be here and it’s hard to ignore his impressive goal scoring record.
The sheer joy he showed in celebrating the winning goal against City earned a shift in fan opinion of the former Liverpool striker. Whilst there’s no point convincing ourselves he loves United, it showed his Liverpool days were well and truly behind him, but more importantly, he had scored exactly the kind of goal he had been signed for – in a massive game, in the dying moments, with mountains of pressure – all on a free transfer!
It stands to reason that Owen will of course be the centre of attention today ahead of our trip to Anfield. He was once an icon of hatred for our fans but now it is our fiercest rivals that feel so strongly against him. But will he start?
Wayne Rooney is struggling to come back from an injury he picked up whilst on England duty although the manager reckons he is fit. Some papers have oddly claimed that Ferguson will leave Rooney out because of his ‘temper’ which seems entirely ludicrous. Why would you leave your best player out of one of the most important games of the season?
Well, there is a reason, and it’s not Rooney’s temper, rather the better pairing of strikers in Dimitar Berbatov and Owen. I’m not for one moment suggesting that Rooney should be left out of the starting line-up if he is fit but it’s hard to ignore how better suited the Berbatov-Owen partnership is. Owen spends the entire match roaming around the defensive line whilst Berbatov enjoys coming deep and picking defence splitting passes. In contrast, Rooney goes everywhere, regardless of him now supposedly playing in his favoured centralrole. You never know where he is going to be or what he is going to do and that unpredictability makes him a nightmare to play against, but it also makes him more difficult to play alongside too. That isn’t a task too difficult for Berbatov though, the guy is gifted, but Owen certainly makes Berbatov’s life easier than Rooney does.
A few months ago, plenty of our fans wouldn’t be too concerned with Berbatov’s preference of partner, given his lack of popularity in the stands. But there has been a definite change in opinion, which has been evidenced by his song being sung in the Stretford End and his wondrous (but failed) attempts applauded, rather than met with grumbles. Berbatov has magic in his boots and whilst I always want Rooney on the park, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Berbatov-Owen combination given more time in future fixtures, and think if anyone is going to be subbed off for Owen today, it shouldn’t be Berbatov.
It is surely down to our Plan B up front, as much as it is Darren Fletcher’s improving form, which lead readers of RoM to believe Fletch is as important to us as Rooney. He works so hard in the centre of the park and a fragile Liverpool midfield, suffering with the poor form of Mascherano, the lacking ability of Lucas and injury plagued Gerrard, would likely be intimidated and pressured by Fletcher’s presence. It looks as though Fletcher is losing that injury battle at present meaning we will have to look elsewhere for our grit, fight and determination in midfield.
Anderson was hailed as the big game player in his first year, outplaying Steven Gerrard and Cesc Fabregas on our meetings with Liverpool and Arsenal, but he suffered badly from second-season syndrome last year and struggled to get in the team. He has improved so far this season though and is due a game which restores fan confidence in him.
Antonio Valencia has scored two goals in two games so is a good shout for a starting place and whilst Nani irritates the hell out of so many of us, it’s hard to look past his positive contribution when he does play. For every five occasions he passes straight to the opposition, fails to take on a defender or shoots wildly, there will be one dangerous ball in to the box or a powerful and on target(ish) shot. I think it would scare the shit out of Liverpool’s struggling fullbacks to have two pacey wingers running at them from the off and would serve to unsettle the defence as a whole.
So does that leave Ryan Giggs starting alongside Anderson in the centre? Giggsy can’t be left out of the team at the moment because of his outstanding form, but it would also be positive to have that added experience in the midfield.
So, we’re just a couple of hours away from kick-off now and like derby day a few weeks ago, this match against Liverpool has extra spice to it. Liverpool are undergoing their worst run in 22 years, our fans will be piling on the humiliation with their beachballs and Cantona masks and we’ve got top spot to play for.
So scousers, we’ve won eighteen and we’ve come back. Race you to nineteen? I fancy our chances, whether we win, lose or draw today. But I desperately want the win and the prospect of Owen getting the winner makes today the most hyped United vs Liverpool fixture in years.
COME ON UNITED!
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c’mon vidic, nail that ladyboy early and let him know whos boss
Wow, Great build up Scott. Can’t wait for this game. Butterflies in the stomach. It will be quite an open game i presume. Both teams really wanting the win. Quite tight but I think united have it in them to do ‘em!!!
2 hours are walking by
Come on MAN UTD. Lets win it today and show those idiots who are the KINGS OF ENGLAND!!!!!!
i think the starting line up for today would be
vds
nevs/o’shea rio vida evra(if fit)/fabio
valencia carrick scholes giggs
berba rooney
i think rooney will be fit for the game……
OOOO AAAHHH CANTONA!!
here we are with our 18 titles in anfield! What a feeling what a feeling.Thanks Sir Alex!
Marching towards our 19th!
Its Do or Die for the dippers today.
4-4-2…
Any latest team news
My team:
VDS
Evra Vidic Rio O’shea
Nani Ando Giggs Valencia
Berbatov Owen
I don’t think rooney is fit, unfortunately.
owen & berba realy great understanding-but without Rooney- it’s just not the same-go united,go
Fletch is losing his fitness battle? Fuck. I really hope he makes it! If he doesn’t, here’s my starting XI:
VDS-O’Shea,Rio,Vida,Evra-Valencia,Carrick,Ando,Giggs-Rooney,Berbs.
come on united!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVmSGUExFHU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwNG42Ps9pc
@ Costas
hi, buddy. Brown ahead of Oshea for me. What happened with Wes, consistent performer 2 years ago ? Let him play. Fergie.
You really are still looking for a Carrick – Ando pairing
Scholesy everyday for me.
Go united go.
I’m off to the pub now. Enjoy the match lads and don’t forget to take pictures of you in your Cantona masks!
COME ON UNITED!!
common men, give me early goals and make us proud, lord fergie tell them who is better
Let’s us put their suffering 2 end by accentuating their relegation.
looks like flecth is out..im shitting it, when he plays in the big games we win when he dont we hardly do.
bring on the scousers
wow, amazing team news coming out of sky sports………….rooney dropped to the bench for a new loan signing………….a young brazilian lad called Beachball!!
Fuck the dippers in their own backyard. Owen to score the winner in the last minute at the kop and then run to the United fans kissing his badge. priceless.
common men, give me an early goal and make us proud. i hope fergie hear dis ” fergi, i will always beleive in u, we all in nigeria are on ur back”. thanks
Come on United…
Come on YOU REDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Women walks in to the doctors. Doctor am having problems down there. Doctor says ok make your self comftable on the bed open your legs. She opens here legs and then all of a sudden you’ll never walk alone starts playing the doctor says o thats normal a lot of cunts sing it
@Corea
Hi mate. Brown does have the potential to be our first choice right back. The problem is that he hasn’t had many games recently. I also wish Fergie would give him more games. As far as Scholesy goes, i wouldn’t start both him and Giggs today. That’s my reason for the Carrick-Anderson partnership. I think the game will be at a high tempo and we will need our fastest players out there. But ultimately, Fergie knows better than both of us.
55 minutes to go!
ROONEY IN
GERRARD OUT
is rooney on the bench?
Starting lineup Plz anyone?
HI LADS
IM IN LIVERPOOL AND ON THE LAPTOP
NEWS JUST IN THAT STEVIE ME IS OUT
ROONEY IS IN
UNITED WILL WIN
CMON
Good news then! Any word on Fletch?
van der sar
oshea rio vidic evra
valenica carrick scholes giggs
rooney owen
i think??? no berbatov or flecth….bricking it even more now
Thanks Jack. I bet Berba is on the bench. On Wednesday i suspected that SAF would go with Owen. I hope our midefield will handle the pace if the game.
rooney and berba start, fletch out
gerrard out, torres starts
I THINK FLETCHER IS ON THE BENCH
GIGGS IN THE MIDDLE
NANI (AWWW) IN ON THE WING ALONG WITH VALENCIA
BACK 4 IS NORMAL AND PATRICE EVRA IS BACK
BERBATOV LONE STRIKER
WAYNE ON THE BENCH
I am confused now,lol.I thought Rooney started?
All I hear is no Stevie Me, but Torres and Rooney fit and playing.
Liverpool: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Insua, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Kuyt, Aurelio, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Voronin, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Degen, Skrtel.
Man Utd: Van der Sar, O’Shea, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Giggs, Berbatov, Rooney.
Subs: Foster, Neville, Owen, Anderson, Nani, Fabio Da Silva, Jonathan Evans.
is it 4-5-1 then???
VDS-O’Shea,Rio,Vida,Evra-Valencia,Carrick,Scholes,Giggs-Rooney,Berba
Bench:Foster,Evans,Neville,Fabio,Nani,Owen,Ando
Not bad Not bad eh!
4-4-2 good. Owen for berba and Ando for scholes in the 2nd half
0-2!!
oh sorry my bad berba does start..some muppet on my facebook said owen lol
I think it’s 4-4-2, but i wouldn’t be surprised if Ryan played infield and helped Carrick and Scholes out.
Both Scolesy and Giggsy playing, Costas.
I don’t say that would prove to be the winning formula but i respect SAF’s decision and his loyalty to the players. Away from home against scousers both start.
Cmon Scholesy, show them you ain’t done yet.
No prob Jack. Something tells me Michael will play a part today!
scholes will keep the ball for us but the one bad thing about him is he cant tackle and dont want him getting sent off
@Corea:
As i said, Fergie knows better.I wouldn’t have started both of them, but that’s just me.The key now is getting hold of the ball and dictating the pace. Something Scholesy on his day can still do.
Has someone forgotten to put the clocks back
Rooney fit!! Anderson on the bench though.i would have had him instead of Carrick in the middle
if scholesy get through the first 25 mins without a card he’ll be fine….one worry is that its not a quick central midfield, but i suppose if they can keep the ball they won’t have to run much.
My wife just opened her legs and I heard you’ll never walk alone, But then again a lot of cunts sing that
@ Costas
i don’t think scousers have a quick central midfield in Mascherano and Lucas
i seriously am worried about this formation.we dont have a ball winner and if we dont get the ball for a few minutes scholesy’s rash tackling will start.Should have played Ando instead of Scholes.Carrick is not the best ball winner.Liverpool will get stuck in.If feel we will miss fletch Badly.
Strong team out there, though I really hoped fletcher would be fit. Seriousely, if we lose, then it’s because fletcher wasn’t playing. Thank heavens Rooney’s fit, and I’d take him off instead of berbatov for Owen to come on. Hope Giggs and Rooney play well, as they’ve just come back from injury.
Come on reds, lets hammer the shitheads!
Agree, with aig, I feel we will miss fletcher, but our midfield looks stronger than theirs at the moment, so let’s have faith in the lads.
THEY JUST SHOWED REPUBLIK OF MANCUNIA ON ESPN ASIA!, about the Cantona Mask thing
I wouldn’t be too worried about scholesey – the liverpool midfield out there isn’t the most creative or pacey…scholsey can handle that. Ball winning is an issue though – would have liked fletch in there, but oh well…I expect ando to come on 60 mins into the game, and mickey owen around 70 for berba (if rooney’s completely fit), or rooney, if he’s not all fit.
@Corea: It depends. They are not very creative, but they will put a lot of pressure on our central midfield. I hope Scholesy and Carrick will handle it and not get into any rush challenges. We will see. The midfield battle is a hard one to predict.
Off topic: My grandson, Max, a little Utd fan aged 18months has been entered in a bonny baby contest…..anybody who out there who would text a vote for him please ….
text GMBABY 3164 to 65100.
its only in our local paper but he IS a United fan and if he wins have promised him a trip to OT to see a game.
apart from that….. C’MON YOU REDS !!
Watching ESPN.
SCOTT YOUR MASK ARTICLE WAS SHOWN ON ESPN.
COME ON UNITED!!!
let’s condemn the dippers to relegation. hope we give them a 50% record.
my starting line up
vds
brown rio vida evra
nani valencia carrick giggs
berba wazza
By the way, Nemanja must be extra careful of the lady boy feigning any hamstring problems. That’s what led to him taking his eye of the ball last March.
i am well nervous….cant wait
Vidic will gonna rape the ladyboy today !!
COME ON UNITED !!
vds
o shea vidic rio evra
valencia carrick scholes sir giggs
berba wazza
not a bad line up.would have loved if fletcher was there.
liverpool -0 man utd 2. berba to score today.hope owen also does.
i’m nervous reading stupid predictions.
i am off to the sofa with beer.
Oh man, i am really getting nervous now.Must rectify what happened in the last game.
I also saw the Cantona mask article on SkySportsNews, UK.
You should get royalties Scott lol
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we ain’t playing well, they’re passing the ball around much better than us. We could do with ando/fletcher right now.
come on united.
Great saves by VDS.Thats why we need him instead of Foster.
btw did anyone see the beachballs, there was a blue one and a red one thrown on to the pitch, I lmao
fuckin’ torres diving bastard, twice already went to ground from nothing
i knew they were going to cheat to try and win! thank god for edwin!
the lads need to wake up, c’mon scholesy!
Let’s hope that Rooney’s header is a prelude for the next minutes.
As expected, midfield looks shaky…just keep the bloody ball – don’t try fancy stuff…just need to keep it bloody simple!!!
Right now liverpool look like they have a extra man on the field…
WTF. Reminds me of Anfield once we conceeded the first goal last season.Carrick and Scholes are the chief culprits so fargiving the ball away too many times when under pressure.
Thats more fucking like it – keep the ball…frustrate liverpool and the fans!
Why the hell are our centrebacks playing long balls and why are we passing the ball backwards when in advanced positions.The build up play is too slow
is it me or does Berba look tired
Bloody hell! Isn’t this a penalty?
and Wayne Rooney should be the first to come off.give the ball away atleast 10 times
The Refree is a fucking Bastard.ASShole
edwin!!!
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Sir Alex was spot on about Refrees getting swayed away by the crowd
We should have had a penalty.
evra and giggsy need to go after johnson. he’s had no problems so far.
this ref is a total wanker!
y the fuk give berba a yellow!!
ref’s decisions goin very much in favour of shitpool
and that ladyboy faggot torress falling over every time a utd player
comes anywhere near him – cheating puffter
a stronger ref would’ve stopped the tranny from diving by now. first dive against evra should’ve been a yellow at least
HA HA! nice one berba!!
throw that kunt to the ground
sort it out please sir alex!
Fucking ref is not giving anything to United.
what in fuck’s name is going on out there!
The ref was a complete joke, he should be demoted to the championship. I saw 2 fouls before the end of the first half. What the heck was that?
must be at least the 3rd his stopped play cus of that shit cunt lucas and he still aint dished out a card for him but berba gets one for fuk all
Scholes was taken down and the ref waved played on. Darn you referees.. and you want Sir Alex to shut his mouth while you’re refereeing like that? Carrick should have gotten a penalty!@
anyone agree that rooney gives the ball away 2 much
half time and all i can say is torres is a wanker
Ha ha! Watching the teams leaving the ground I couldn’t help noticing that Reina has the same t-shirt colour with the referees. They play for the same team!
and saf cant say anything about the ref cus hes already in the shit
with the fa
im usually one of the last people to complain about refs but that was just terrible. torres trips himself up, gets a foul against evra (to get booked a little later in his very first challenge), at least 4 fouls on berbatov in the last 10 mins ignored and he gets the yellow instead
what the fuck
Rooney has been absolutely anonymous…I wouldn’t bet against owen replacing him later in the second half…Although I have my doubts on whether SAF will even consider sending Owen on.
Fucking good first half in terms of excitement.
Carrick good game, Berba good game, Valencia looking good.
Wazza out of form a little bit. But it’s not easy to come back after missing some games espescially against that sort of an opposition.
Ok, we got it. They want to save the scousers from falling to the Championship.
very dissapointing half for united.o shea was pathetic.he isnt fast and his passing looks so poor.this referee is a bitch.
Why do they even bother having a referee for games like this if he’s just going to be a pointless pile of shit with a whistle?
@Mahesh:
I think SAF would consider replacing Scholes with Anderson or with Nani and pushing Giggs on the center role to provide more balls to Roonny.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/man-utds-hargreaves-six-weeks-comeback-402451
Hargo back in 6 weeks time.
nice bit of drama so far. setting up quite nicely for owen’s appearance next half. just need to believe and stay confident! nobody panic, it will all end well!
We could have done better. Mariner was attrocious in the first half. But he also didn’t gave them a penalty for Berba pulling the short of Kuyt. Come one lads. You are better than this!
The ref is a disgrace. Every single time Torres is touched he goes down. Fucking girl.
Goal is coming. We just need a little bit more composure in front of their goal and no silly things at the back like that Rio back pass.
most one sided refereeing I’ve seen what a bastard that marriner is.
CMON GUYSSSS.
Rio still looks off form to me… Surely he can jump higher than than he did when Aurelio got in for his header. I would have been livid if EvS hadn’t saved that. And what the hell was the cross back pass he hit?
Neville for O’Shea, Anderson for Carrick
xabi alonso was their designated diver last year, tranny torres must’ve taken up their flag in that department. ref needs to get control and card that bastard to stop it. he tripped himself on his first dive of the day! wtf!
People People People…. This is a premier league game, surely you guys realise by now that the refereeing in this league is crap. Getting decisions to go your way is just a lottery. This guy could very well make a stupid decision in our favour in second half.
Can’t believe people still expect our refs to get things right!
yeah guys, rooney and berba dont seem to find each other well today!
berba should’ve had a free kick..
Shit Ref. Dipper’s 12th fucking man. Imo owen should come on for rooney , he isn’t having a good game. ando on for scholes, we need a ball winner.
we were all over them in the last 25 minutes or so. I really hope it won’t be a draw, we have to tear them up in the second half, score early. come on utd
get the feeling this ref was specially selected cus of fergi’s rant
Guys Andre fucking Marriner should be demoted he has been reffing shit. berba got a card for nothing that scouse scum carragher cut carrick down no pen. the ref is a disgrace!
Terrible…possession that we should be creating chances with, we’re actually giving the ball away to liverpool for them to create chances…
carrick and especially o’shea have been infuriating to me this match. vds however is still a giant beast of a lord of an awesome amazing man. we’ll never have another like him.
Torres 3 yards offside no flag???????????????
we’re missing fletch of course i’d like to see ando at some point i think as well.
need to get nani on the pitch and move giggs to centre mid – get scholes off… come of fergie do it!
How many fouls for Lucas?????????
Honestly, sorry to say this but Torres makes Vidic look like an absolute muppet at times…
still no card for the cunt lucas
vidic has been crap all season, since his return from injury – i just hope he snaps out of it
fck lucas, how did they find an ugly bastard who looks like fowler?
put the fuckin ball down mascherano you little bitch
Fucking useless defending
game on. don’t panic
fuck…..sort yourselves out lads…… come onnnnnnnnn!!!!!
that was fukin comin
great finish.Poor rio .he really is struggling.the dippers deserve it.i can see a second coming for the dippers because torres is kicking the hel out of our centrebacks
No complaints – completely deserved at this point…better raise our games now…Torres is absolutely quality…
dont get the card out wateva u do
fukin cunt
Come OONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN……..
Wish we had Torres instead of that Bulgarian up top
the cb’s are complacent so far this season. i think evans needs to get a run out for whoever fergie is more angry at.
rio might have been made to look bad, but the real error there was from vidic…he looks one of worst defenders in the world when he plays liverpool/torres…
lets get ando, nani and owen no…we’ll get hammered like this…
anyone think scholes was useless today?
wow what a free kick .when you are down hit it straight at the keeper.catching practice
lets go mickey!!!!! shut them dippers scumbags up!!!!!
@saoruladh
Apart from VDS everyone was useless.no doubt
how much money of vidic getting sent off – its a good bet I think…In any case we’re either winning this or getting hammered…
i feel sick….
come on owen….
almost nani…
jesus nani!!!! thats a bit better
Nothing is working for us.
We’ve been poor today, very disappointing. I got up at 3am to watch this shit!
Feel one coming now.
yes, that’s it. Keep piling the pressure. They’ll crack.
We just can’t find that final pass.
i know we are in the era of squad rotation, but i wish fergie could just pick a first team and stick with it for a while. we are like liverpool and chelsea of old….too much tinkeriing and we have no squad cohesion at all. no flow or intuitiveness in our play at all.
no control in midfield.
thank fuck the ladyboy is going…….
Contrast between Rooney and Torres is jarring to say the least…
We just don’t look like scoring.
We need Hargreaves and Fletcher for matches like this.
Tactically, FSW has pummelled SAF again…I don’t remember the last time we really looked good against a FSW team..
@xyth
completely agreed.
Very ordinary display – no spirit. God help us against Chelski
We’ve been poor today lads. Liverpool haven’t been very good either but fucks sake we had our heads in our asses all day. We haven’t looked like scoring at all. I hope we can salvage a draw. John O’Shea?
get the fuck off carragher.
Carra gets away with it again. dirty bastard.
What a fucking waste by Nani. Ref is a disgrace.
RED CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!
all it takes is no gerrard and a half fit torres to beat us.very good lads.keep it up.chelsea will kick the shit out of us
Carrick has been Liverpool’s best player today. Absolutely slack passing. Where’s Ando?
Didn’t you just see that coming. Ref’s been as poor as Utd.
HAHAHA!!! WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY!!! THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE!!! VIDIC!!!
Why didn’t I put money on this!!!
dirty cheating scouse cunts
bye bye nemanja.congrats on completing the hat trick of red cards.Sir Alex looks as if someone has smacked him on his face.well done liverpool.no doubt about the results.and our fans were saying we will beat them 4-0 HA HA HA
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS REFREE……..
The referee is a cunt. A spineless fucking cunt. Barely lifted a finger to stop the Scum hacking away through the midfield, did even less to stop the diving. Carded Evra and Berba for nothing. Fair play to the Fat Spanish Waiter for making it ten men against ten by subbing on an empty shirt for Torres, but he’s still a cunt too.
mascherano is a dirty little bitch fuck him
Worst player on the pitch: Wayne Rooney1
Fuck, I slate the bloke and then he fucking scores. What a day.
Nani is shit
FUCK.
@Mahesh: F’off!
we have actually never ever looked like scoring.
even in the last 10 minutes, when we needed to, nothing. not a chance. might have been different mind you if owen hadnt been dragged down by THAT CUNT CARRAGHER
It should have been a red card for Jammie. And it felt like wacthing Liverpool TV with those bias comments.
why are we slating the refree. Okay he made a few bad decisions but it played no part in our goals.we were shit and we got a good spanking.I Feel Bad for King Eric and others who went to see the match.Just 4 points the gap.Vidic deserved his red.he just fucks it up against the dippers.and rio is struggling big time .drop him for 4-5 games and tell him that he is not irreplacable
i dont think you can pick a worst player for us today….scholes? carrick? o’shea? rio? rooney? even giggs was poor. just not good. not good.
id like to think we’re gonna do some business in january
I wont blame the ref.. we WERE pathetic.
Today we were completely over run in the midfield. Carrick wtf ? Not having Fletcher killed us. Fuck im so fukcen upset. Berbatov really needs to stop being so condescending towards his team mates.
What’s happened to Rooney, he should be our tallisman. His form has been poor since derby day. Although he got no service from our midfield today.
not many complaints really. Ref wasnt consistant but we hardly created anything. Nobody stepped up we lacked the final ball. Missed fletch a bit. Nani had a terrible game.
Reminds me of the Barca game. A bit gutless but need to put it behind us and move onto the next game.
Playing catch up with Chelsea again.
Never deserved even a point in that game.
Not creative enough.
United simply beaten by the better team on the day.
@TheRadLegion
What are you talking mate.Mahesh is right.Wayne rooney has been shit for the last 3 games.his mind is not in football because he is becoming a father.he should not have played.4-4-2 always flops against the dippers.They hammer us.
TheRadLegion – I’m stating a fact…I’m as bitter right now as you are, only I can tell which team deserved to win hands down owing to some truly horrible performances. This leads to wonder, however, whether its actually not the players who are performing like turds…maybe its just that FSW has the measure of SAF, and more…
It was not a masterful performance by Liverpool, but we were just too slow.
Torres also just recovered, but he was miles better than Rooney. Rooney will never be the best player if it goes like this
fuck up, totally fucked up! from backline to front, all play fucked today. rooney is soo fucked. carrick is sooo fucked too, so is o’shea….all fucking fucked!!! wat beach ball, wat inflict 5th defeat on è dippers, go fucking look at ur own fucking performance first!
We were bad as simply as that. But that doesnt help when that stupid referee tried so hard to save the fools from going under. And no matter how much people bash Sir Alex for his comments on the referee in general, especially on Wiley. His comment was spot on.
I thought Carrick did ok, Scholes should never have started this game, Valencia wasn’t in the game enough, the central defence looks shaky to say the least.
The ref was terrible, we were worse. Rooney was invisible the entire time, except when he was giving the ball away and not even trying to run for the loose balls.
Nani had a chance to score. Valencia had one. Valencia did well, Nani had less time on the pitch to adapt and his first touch is bad. He could have score. Our play is a bit out of breathe. Our midfield is weak. Anderson should start. Carr. should have been red carded. Vidic red card is right. Ferdinand can’t do anything. The referee make some mistake. Owen is pulled down by Carr. We miss anderson in midfield. If he play we should did better. Scholes is a bit slow for this fast pace. I knew we cant win deep in my mind. We always play bad against them. Overall, we did well on some part but bad on some area. A bit disappointed we didn’t play our game.
Where to now SAF. There is a lot of weakness in this team. Rooney was underdone, Carrick has no bottle, Neville would have been better than O’Shea, Rio piss poor again. can’t believe Ando didn’t get a go
Carragher should not have been sent off.there were 2 defenders in line with him and the angle for owen wasnt the simplest.Dont blame Carra for the defeat and not even the refree.we were pathetic.SAF needs to sort us out.FSW has got SAF’s number.he always seems to outwit him.
i never wanted to say this but i think we are missing ronaldo badly.accept it valencia isnt even half ronaldo.he isnt fit for united.o shea a biggest shit.cant understand y he is still starting games.
we always blame nani,berba or ando but i think we should also take a look at rooney.itsagain the same old rooney good for few game then disappearing in other games.
it still bizarre a team that didnt win their last 5 games and is without gerrard still beats united.
Oh. Did anyone realise? Lucas foul soooo many times and yet no yellow card.
@devil: fu*k you.. lay off Rooney. Where on earth he supposed to get the ball from if there was no one to supply! Use your effin head before you talk!
Posting this from my iPhone… that was depressing, but who the FUCKKK is that referee? I’d love a foul count, especially for Lucas and Carragher should have been sent off… it’s beyond belief. If the game would have been played and reffed properly we would have got a point
Cheating scouse cunts is all I can say.
I’ve just trashed my common room because of this, what was the ref thinking for most of the match?
Dont single out Nani. You are making yourself look like a fool lol..
we don’t need Scholes and Giggsy both starting away from home. Nani was shite. Carrick had a good game. has Rio lost his pace ? he should have done much better for the Torres goal.
@aig:
I disagree, he was the last on the line. Granted there was a few others “arround” him but he was the last.
We were shit ? Open your eyes. You were so fucking possitive before the game with stupid predictions like 2-4 etc. We didn’t play well but we weren’t overplayed buy the scousers. We were just too simple in the attacking area. In terms of the PL not a nightmare but scousers wanted it the most.
Also, our defending was simply not aggressive, we gave them way too much space. I mean wtf sometimes we were simply standing still on the pitch. This had best be a wake up call
We were shit today. No two ways about it.
Terrible refereeing, but that can’t deflect attention away from just how bad we were.
@Corea: Our midfield was outplayed by the fools. As simple as that. The defense was quite solid.
The midfield didn’t hold up the ball enough to take the pressure off the defence or be creative enough to give the strikers a chance to score.
Again I will say that against the top teams this midfield is lacking.
It lacked against Barcelona, Arsenal, and now Liverpool.
I still fancy that Owen’s move that was blocked by Jamie. It could have been goal and it should have been a red card.
We were worse than the ref. Guys, dont go lowering yourself. Remember, Rafa humbly admitted his team was poor when they lost to the beach ball.
I feel ashamed for King Eric though
A draw was fair. We didn’t deserved to win I’d agree with anyone who says that. But the ref was a shit scared cunt nonetheless. And I’m sorry but I’m gonna grieve about this till the mods kick me off, but andy gray must die!!!
That motherfuckin chud of an excuse for human genes deserves to be impaled with the corner flag!!!!!!
@Ash
Even Ronnie would have been let down by that midfield today as he was against Barcelona.
today performance was a disgrace…liverfool show us what our real colour when we face a better team…i said it better team…
lucas run the midfield and make carrick and scholes look small…wtf,imagine if gerrard were there…
benayoun tore us apart…its benayoun for f*** not even ronaldo or ribery or kaka running at our defender…
and what the hell wrong with rooney…not fit…torres just barely past fitness test…
i agreed on above comment…time to put ferdinand on bench…give evan the spot…and why anderson not playing…u dont put your on form player on bench…
u know what funny about liverpool beachball…they fucking beat us three time in a row…and thats a fact…
@Cantona:
I agree, we played bad.. but man it is difficult to digest when you see such a bad refereeing.
thats all i could think today, god i miss ronaldo.
i dont think valencia is good enough for utd, never mind as a replacement for ronaldo
@TheRadLegion
sorry mate.saw the replay and he was the last.you were right.maybe because the angle was tight the ref didnt send him off but carragher was the last person
We’re still going to win the league. This game should kick us up the ass.
It’s just too early for that to be of any consolation.
rooney played like shit, how many completed passes? was oshea even on the pitch? would have liked to see neville instead. we missed fletcher and / or the other owen. no bite in midfield and for two players known for the passing ability, i didn’t see much in the way of feeding the front through the middle….
I thought only Berbatov was okay, but the ref spoiled his mood. Other than Berbatov and VDS, all useless today..
@ alpha_rs
the most important games are still ahead. i understand your point but it is only the beginning.
today our midfield weren’t overplayed. i will stick to it.
they were the lucky team and the team that needed the win more.
we played as always away from home nowadays. nothing special.
Worst UTD side in years!!!!
No Passion
No Fight
Forget the ref and their dirty tactics United are better than that, they made an average liverpool side look good.
This was a great opportunity to kick a rival when down but no UTD just weren’t interested today only started playing when a goal down.
Rooney – Not a player to lead our team
Rio – Well below average
Vidic – Should never play again against scousers
Scholes – Stop going on about his experience – Too many dodgy displays in last two seasons
Only player that did ave for us today was Valencia
Big improvement needed or a dissapointing season awaits!
Bloody Nani needs shipping so SAF, i will pay the shipping bills if thats what you are worried about.
Well done Corea for talking some sense. Liverpool simply wanted it more and did have the benefit of having a few contentious decisions going their way. We’ll stuff ‘em at Old Trafford and win the league, let’s keep positive.
Valencia has to be considered a fixture on the right flank, he was our most influential player by a country mile today, can’t wait for him to really get into his stride.
@aig alex is god: Owen is pulled down. 2 defender on the same line? Yeah. both on the same line. but how far they were from Owen? The ball going out? Owen can get to the ball first then reina. I’m sure of it. he could trouble the keeper. It’s a red card. Overall we did badly. Anderson should play.
@TheRadLegion
u fucking moroon. do u fucking even understand football? dont be a blind fucking idiot, rooney is poor today. giving away è ball way too much. he got alot of é balls, but lose it too much & his passing is so poor today!
This is fucking embarrassing. The manner of defeat hurts more than the defeat itself.
I think the issue is also mental as anything else. We have been winning while performing badly for too long. We need to kick out this bad habit fast.
Yes the referee was poor, but we were awful. Had I been on the team that lost 4:1 at home, I would have dreamed every night until the chance to avenge that. Today lads seemed totally uninterested, no passion, no creativity. Today more than ever we needed a good performance, and all our major players failed.
As much as I hate the dippers, this time we cannot say it was undeserved. You cannot fault their desire. They did not let us breathe. Fairly or unfairly they were all over us.
As for the referee, I think this is what we are going to get week in week out in the future and we need to get used to it. You could see the pleasure on bastard’s face when he sent off Vidic.
We should be grateful that rent boys are only 2 points ahead. Hopefully Fergie and lads have learned their lesson today and kick start the season next week.
@RedLegion i know, it is really hard to take.. But we have to take it bravely though…
The midfield could not provide Rooney with a good service, but Rooney also did no good but being nowhere he should have been. Plus, he couldnt even take a single defender… The worst about Rooney today is, he didnt know when to shoot, and he is our striker…
kel.
i agree he was the last man and it was a red.i did correct myself.saw it again
@Corea:
You don’t think our midfield wasn’t outplayed? Geez are you watching Arsenal game? The minute we got the ball Lucas and Mascherano were chasing like crazy, we didn’t have a space to even give the ball to Rooney.. let alone berbatov
refs gave em confidence from the start to get away with murder today and they did.
put this one away. 1 loss at that toilet anfield but top of the table in the end would surely make up for it.
3 points dropped. not even november yet.
this stings to be sure, plenty of blame to spread around, poor showing, questionable tactics, poor finishing, rooney looked lost, nani being nani…
happened last year twice and look what happened- #18.
to paraphrase gary nev, “…would rather lose twice to liverpool, and win the league”
no excuses let’s move on, though i fear a week of venomous griping is surely in store here at rom.
At times like this articulate thought goes out of the window, all I can say is fuck fuck fucketty fuck
@alpha
yeah agreed.but atleast he is fast and is threatening.now no one runs.valencia gets the ball he stops lets the opposition player come back and then passes .nani runs just to give away the ball and same with rooney.
fergie still doesnt have a fixed mid field line up.berba should play as a proper striker instead of a deep striker.
This is just great! My scouse supporting mate is giving me so much stick for this! Come back Hargreaves, come back Fletcher!
I am ashamed of some so called supporters on here.
Worse utd side in years my arse catch a grip, a bad day at the office thats all
I think it’s fair to say the better side won on the day, and that sickens me to say it because it’s a bog standard Liverpool side that beat us which doesn’t say alot for United’s team.
United’s tempo was far to slow. Carrick was simply awful in the centre of the park. Dimitar Berbatov – 30 million pounds and the cunt hasn’t shown up for one big game since we signed him. The gulf in class between Torres and Berbatov is embarassing and Torres was bloody cheaper?!
Also, don’t forget the fact Carrick deserved a penalty too. That could have changed the flow. Ok so fine, no penalty.. how about indirect free kick at least? Ok fine, no freekick, now how about some decent refereeing?
What is the point of O’Shea? Why do we continue to fuck up against liverpool so much. We had such incentives to perform well and make a statement today and the team performs like that??! It’s bloody frustrating.
Sort it out Fergie.
Oh….1 good note. Van Der Sar was faultless. Good to have him back, I thought he was superb.
@Gary, yup Carrick was too slow. He has potential but he was nowhere what he was last season.
But yes, the 3rd red card in a row for Vida is a nightmare.
Forget it. Let them enjoy the victory.
Count one’s chickens before they are hatched
valencia most influential?!?! he runs down blind alleys on a consistent basis. he seems to panic with the ball. just not good enough.
dont mean to single him out. everyone was shite today. anderson should have played in placed of carrick. or scholes. or carrick…..cant make up my mind who was worse.
ona slightly lighter note, did anyone see the scouse fan getting hold of one of the beach balls and trying to burst it by standing on it? tried like 3 times and wldnt give it to stewards! silly silly cunts
@Corea i couldnt agree with you more..
guys, i dont think i will be able to sleep tonight (1219 am here)… i dont think i can go to the office tomorrow too..
I don’t want to get on players back because of loss but nani is the worst shite I have ever seen and doesn’t deserve to be in a league 1 team never mind the champions
Worse united side ? you are spoiled my friends.
Another dogshit performance in a big game.
Can’t believe how crap we were today.
Slow, careless, disinterested, total lack of any creativity of any kind.
Sloppy at he back, over ran in midfield, and non existent up front.
Great.
wat is hard to swallow is loserpool was é better team & we were beaten fair & square. feels alot like é barca game in rome, all é hype & anticipation before è game but in é end, none of our players turn up. & gets beaten quite easily. saw é lineup before é starts. not totally wat i would go for, but still a good selection i tot. should have a real go! man , feeling damn shitty now. need to bounce back strongly now! come on fergie!
@Cantona
Man I feel ya. It’s sunday morning here. Not a good way to start your weekend
referee was poor but admit it our performance was worse…
i never agreed to anyone slating our player but this performance come on we do play worse…hope this will kick up everyone ass an we start roaring again…and this performance may show to sir alex who deserve another boot to the head…let them realise u are not star uare not the best when u been bullied by lucas benayoun and kuyt
Bit of a shambles today, granted. It will shake any complacency out of us.
However, any notion about this side not being up to much is bollocks. Let’s have some perspective. We’re still second, two points behind Chelsea, still four ahead of the Scouse bastards. Hardly a crisis.
I feel worsen and worsen. I have to fire up Fifa 10 and rewrite the history.
See you all later. Glory United!!!
@Corea
I understand that the more important games are yet to come.
Also to be honest with you if we lost every league game against the rat munchers for the next 10 years and still won the league 10 times I wouldn’t care. But this midfield is good. Not very good or brilliant.
Blaming the referee for anything today is a poor call by anybody.
Uniteds midfield simply over run.
@Ash
Losing Ronnie would be a dent in any team in the world.
He had the touch of class that the rest of the team can’t seem to make up for at the moment. I’ll agree with you about the striker. I always said I don’t doubt Berbatovs class but whether we actually need a player like him is debatable. As we were still looking to sign Benzema for 30 mill in the summer. An out and out striker.
@the savage
feel the same words floating around in my head, trying to not let the f words fly around my 3 year old and infant!
let’s not be about of whinging glory hunters though. time to rally and regroup, hug the wife and kids, lots of alcohol might help!
we will win the league. scousers will drop off against stoke and sunderland at home but against us they are always up for it. i wish all the players had the balls to stick it up their you know whats. but nonetheless, we will win the league.
in retrospect i’m amazed how much we are missing fletch. even keano would agree. that sperm-gravy lucas deserved a broken metatarsal. fletch could’ve given him that.
devil@singapore
good u mention this up…
same performance against barca…only this time we were controlled by lucas,mascherano and benayoun instead of iniesta and xavi and messi…damn i hate when we lost with this kind of performance…wake up Manchester United
What a spineless bunch of big-game bottlers we are nowadays.
Coming on the back of four consecutive defeats, playing utter garbage, fans turning against Rafa, Gerrard injured, Torres not 100%, club in turmoil… I suppose a visit from our wusses is just what the doctor ordered for the dippers. Easy 2-0 win thankyouverymuch and a huge boost for their season. I do hope the Prince of Dubai was inspired by today’s match and will now buy LFC and invest billions in them. Nice work, United!
What happened to the days when we would stroll into Anfailed and take the 3 points like candy from the proverbial baby?
Now our lads are actually intimidated by this Liverpool side? Unbelievable!
@aig: But the referee dont agree fully. Anyway rooney look out of sort due to lack of match fitness. He just recover from injury. Lets all cool down. This is a bad defeat but our midfield is the area weak today. berbatov did well on some occasion. Valencia just need to improve his left leg. O shea is slow on pace so he seldom go on attack. Vidic had less support. I thought evra is injured when the right back of pool tackle him. Giggs play badly too( also just came back on injury) Owen did really well. He looks danger and his strength to hold off defender and pass Valencia is good.
its no point debating.the fact was liverpool wonned .we just need to get on with it.the season isnt even half over.but we had a chance to dump liverfools of the tittle race.
Bad day at the office??? Too many of those this season already – luckily we have been sneaking most.
Maybe you havent been watching them this season? Arsenal played them off the park @ OT (As much as I hate to say that)
Lets put this in perspective we have now lost 3 in a ROW against liverpool??
Was Liverpool really that dominating today? No the ref and our lack of interest encouraged them which makes the result even worse.
Sod all this Liverpool needed to win the most. Thats rubbish!!! Where’s the passion for playing in a utd shirt and want to avenge the double they did over us last year?
United lacked passion, slack passing and thats being kind to them – in fact it was our passing that nearly set up opportunities for them (scolsey and evra the ones I remember)
Since when has this stupid patient approach suited united. We need to see more fast direct counter attacks.
@Bebeto yeah i hope that also will make Rooney realize he is so far away from the other top players.. He isnt even comparable to Torres..
Well, Rooney is a very good player, but i’m just feeling sad because Rooney seems to be falling behind now.. I used to champion him our braveheart, our warrior that will lead the team, but for now i can only see a shadow of that in him..
@ alpha_rs
there were a lot of games when Ronaldo didn’t rescue us. A LOT of games. today was the same day i think. you overestimate a little bit.
it is only my intuition but before the game i knew we won’t win it. the team that wanted it the most and the team that was a little bit more lucky won it.
Football – fucking bloody hell ….
And yeah, Rooney would “appear” if our midfield didn’t “disappear” – just sayin’. Lay off of Roo – it’s a TEAM fail.
And yeah, so nice that Marriner was the 12th Scouser today.
And yeah, I love our club anyway – ALWAYS.
It’s ON at Old Trafford in a few months, that’s a FACHT. And let’s just wait and see how everyone in the League is doing in oh, say, ’round about late April-early May, eh? Long season, etc…..
WE ARE UNITED. Let’s NEVER forget that.
Our performance in one word today.. spineless. Scholes and giggs shouldn’t be starting games together anymore. we need the bite in midfield which simply wasn’t there. really needed Fletch/Anderson in there.
Anyway all this talk of crisis and missing ronaldo is rubbish. It should be back to normal service next week. I’m still confident that we’ll win the league.
On a side note I cant believe how poorly we started the 2nd half. Considering we were poor in the first half, I felt that Fergie would have unleashed the hair-dryer and the players would have atleast shown a bit more hunger & passion!
Silver lining I suppose is that we are four points clear of the dippers so even after they have dicked us at Old Trafford we should still be safe. Phew!
In case you can’t tell, I AM FUMING!
We were plain bad! But the ref was a disgrace! Like Lucas fouled at least a million times before he was carded(or was he?) Evra, one foul, carded! Vidic 2 fouls and off! Carra was a straight red!
Please kick Nani out! Plsssssssssssssssss!!!! Valencia looked good and was unlucky not to score! All in all Liverpool were’nt terrific but we were really poor! When is the return fixture lined up? Anderson and Fletch in the midfield and the best, the man with the curly hair back in the middle of the park!
Poor on the first half ? I need some King Eric’s and Costas’s right now. Utter bollocks.
Three in a row, yeah. Who won the title last season? There’s some perspective for you. Who’s more likely to win it this season? There, have a little more.
Fucking naysayers. Come back in May.
we are not in crisis…
we have a good squad…
but TODAY our performance is WORSE…
i love this club so much i will start erased my pain with this word…
BELIEVE
Ok maybe we were’nt “poor” but Liverpool had all the better chances and they showed more hunger.
The ref was shite granted, but our players didnt look like they were up for it. We needed someone like Fletcher to put in a thunderous tackle in the beginning to set the mood
We Played Horrible :’(
There is nothing worse than a gloating dipper; and they’ll be out in force tomorrow in Liverpool-On-Sea (Ilfracombe). Does anyone hate them more than me?
Guys lets get a grip here.. There’s no need for “Ando and Fletcher should’ve” and “miss Hargo/Ronaldo”. The fact is (i borrow that from Rafa), we lost.
The ref was not a disgrace. He was shite, yes, but not a dsgrace. A disgrace is when you cant accept your defeat and blame it on the ref when even a fat spanish waiter can take it gentlemanly.
Liverpool wanted it more.. we slipped up today. It’s easy to point the finger in retrospect but some of our lads need to take a long look in the mirror and ask themselves if they are good enough to play for the shirt. We need Hargreaves and Fletcher back asap.
So that sucked, but it looks like that’s going to be the high-point of their season. They’re thrilled about not losing 5 games in a row, whereas we’re looking to actually win trophies.
Lastly, we are not a club in crisis. Just that we are playing badly today. No desire, no penetration, no drive, not enough passion. Some passion i see from players are Vidic and berbatov. Rooney show in the first half. 2nd half i knew he was tired. We should make change in the 2nd half. I don’t know why Sir Alex took so long to make a change.
I should be going back to bed now but i’m afraid i’ll have nightmares after that poor showing.
From Nemanja Vidic’s last 3 performances against liverpool its quite obvious he feels the same about scousers as the rest of England.
Do we really need 3 defenders and a keeper on the bench?? So unecessary if ferguson really believs in welbeck and kiko put them on there more likely to get a goal than Neville, fabio and evans!!
I thought that our midfield was poor and
That we just never caused them any real
Problems in attack. We missed fletcher . Anderson
Should have played
opplogise to all for è vulgarity in my earlier post. Sorry, got too emotional. hate é dippers too much to swallow a deafeat with such a poor performance. damn, feeling hollow inside me now, very sad. we had got away with some wins this season, hope this defeat will put our boys into realistism. we really need to up our performance in this very tough league. *damn it, ê dippers aren’t even good their current team* argh!!!!
while i agree that we were not good today people saying we are in crisis should get out of here.thats not the case.the dippers were better today but wait till next week when Arsenal will stuff them and they will be back in crisis.the tradition of our club is that we bounce back when we are beaten and i am sure we will do it again. the key is to beat the small teams.despite their win today it is clear that the dippers wont win the league.it will be us or chelsea.and why are people slating nani. i am not his biggest admirer but he hardly any time today.i have full cnfidence in the team and am sure we will be back to our best soon. We are missing ronaldo? well if anyone thought we wont he needs to get his head checked.He is irreplacable.So better back the team rather than slag them and say which players are useless.All my negative comments were with regards to todays game because the dippers were there for the taking. i have full faith in the team and SAF
@20 Legend I agree with you mate.
They wanted the victory much more than us. We were too casual to say the least. We are lacking in creativity. Although we still could have nicked a point today (Valencia shot hitting the bar) but it would have felt very bitter indeed. There were several situations today that we should have made more of them (At the death of the game, Roony and Nani (could have made a hero out of himself), to mention just a few). Final pass letting us down to much for my liking. More often than not we are choosing the wrong option.
We have been playing pretty ordinarily and still won last season. This season could have been very different, but somehow we managed to scrape results).
Apart from victories at Spurs and against Shity, our performances were not good enough. we used to dominate team, squeeze them in their own box (like Shity in the seconds half), top 4 or bottom three. We used to be fast and furious. Nowadays there seems to be no urgency unless we are chasing the game. Why? Why not push hard until we score first and let them chase the game. I get the feeling that we are not feared any more.
Let’s hope the lads pick themselves up and Fergie reflects in his own team picking as well (I do not think he always is picking best team that he can).
Not much to say really. Liverpool were better. From start to finish. We showed glimpses of what we can do, but for a strange reason, i sensed we were intimidated by them. I get how upset ALL of us are, but there is no sense in arguing about it anymore. If Sir Alex comes out and blames the Marinner, then we have a serious problem on our hands. Because he did not cause our downfall today, no matter how shit he was.
Berbatov is brilliant but he can’t play big games. FACT.
Valencia needs to start every . FACT.
O’shea is fucking pointless. FUCKING POINTLESS. FACT.
Scholes can’t do big games. FACT.
How the fuck did Lucas and Carragher not get sent off. Evra gets booked after 2 nothing challenges, the first of which Torres dived AGAIN. Lucas had a warning then 8 deliberate fouls later no booking. Owen is played through, rugby tackled by Carragher, fuckin shitty yellow. Vidic trips Kunt on the halfway line, no scoring oppurtunity and going out of play, sends him off and now he’s fuckin banned AGAIN.
Berbatov was obviously fouled on the stroke of half time, if the free kick is given who knows.
People who are saying worst team ever etc. Fuckin do one you mugs. It was slow today cuz no Fletch or Ando. People saying we will win at Old Trafford are wrong, we can’t beat Liverpool, they know how to beat us with or without their ONE star player Gerrard.
Whoever said we’d win 4-0, are you fuckin Loco. They were always gonna at least draw against us. Prick.
we get to see welbeck, and hopefully obertan in tuesday’s carling cup.
time to look to the next game!
surprisingly sky hasn’t fallen on our heads yet, and i don’t think it will!
didn’t notice any trophies handed out after the game, let the dipper’s have their day, hopefully they’ll have a celebratory stabbing on one of their own, so we can do with one less!
it’s only october. we’ve overcome painful losses to the gooners and chelski in the past 3 title years as well, let’s not over analyze and panic with this poor showing- no argument they played tight and nervous, but let’s try not to revert to glory hunting whinging around here.
@ everybody complaining about Lucas he did exactly the same job as fletch against arsenal yet no mention of that! Come on get a fucking grip outfought outplayed simple as that! Not the end of the world we will still be CHAMPIONS
It was really a heartache to see United got beaten by those LooserFools. The fact is that we’re just like their rebound, their coming back from their downfall.
What I can see is that they play like HELL, a lot of clever runs that obviously broke our defenses apart. We lack of speed and defense splitting movements. Hope them lads learned from their mistake today and improve.
Nice play from LooserFools, they deserve the win. We’ll see you again in OT!
BELIEVE!
“UNITED! THE CHAMPION OF ENGLAND!”
CALM THE FUCK DOWN,GUYS!!
We were missing Fletcher,that’s it.
We may lose all our remaining games against the big 4,but we will still win the league.
Realist-You should’ve come on here and been open about supporting Liverpool.We’d respect you more then.
only worrying stat for me is 7 goals conceded at home…more than any of the top 8 teams in the table.
best stat is only 4 goals conceded away! better than any club (tied with villa) in the prem.
we need to tighten our home form by winning with lots of goals, but also keeping a clean sheet.
this has to start with blackburn next weekend.
ok so we lost 1 game today, so what. we have been beaten by burnley and liverpool away. chelsea lost to wigan and villa away.
Fucking gutted. Knew they would win. Were never gonna lose 5 on spin. Our support was superb today. The beachballs on the pitch and chants of “He’s just a fat spanish beach ball” to Rafa were quality. I am actually stunned that people have been slating Scholes, I though he had a decent game, only one up for it. As for slagging Rooney and saying they would rather us have Torres, get fucked. May be a great finisher but has no fucking balls. Soft cunt. Missed Fletch massively. Carrick nothing short of awful again. Need to pull their fingers out. Was always gonna get beat today though. The way the media had blown it in to such epic proportions about how Rafa could get sacked and United would stroll the game. Was always gonna be the dippers day. Nowt else to say except aside from the Rentboys everyone other team had poor results. Especially Arsenal and Citeh losing 2-0 leads. City dropping points like fuck now.
ash – fuck off. A defeat at the dippers and we miss Ronaldo all of a sudden. Plastic cunt.
King Eric-I agree with you.It’s only one defeat,we’ll bounce back.We may even lose to Blackburn next week,but I am confident that someway,somehow we will win the league.
Sorry,that wasn’t for you,King Eric.That was for Eli@EliShares.