Like it or not, in the case of Carragher’s foul on Owen, not only did Owen NOT have a clear goalscoring opportunity (yes he could have a strike, but the angle from which it would have come would have made it quite easy to save, as both he and the ball were travelling away from goal), but there were two other players coming in, at least one of whom could, and probably would have made an additional attempt to intercede.

The referee therefore made the correct decision in awarding a free kick and a yellow card to Carragher.

So stop squealing like a fucking schoolgirl and get over it.

As we all know other clubs view United as their biggest fixture. There’s been a tendency in recent years to attach a meeting with us as an opportunity to “turn things around” for many on top of the usual one-off game-raising aspect United always face.
This was such a match for Liverpool – again – and that’s the real issue either their fans are unaware of or are afraid to acknowledge.
As happened last season United will, when it truly matters, get the results they need in the sense that setbacks like Sunday’s are rendered inconsequential to the wider achievements.
Yep, it’s Liverpool and it hurts more but with reference to what I said in the first paragraph above, remember this.
Benitez’s Liverpool are victims of his management in that, in the long game of winning the Premiership, you are guaranteed intermittent periods where they need to “turn things around”. It is a fundamental flaw highlighting why, I believe anyway, he will never win the English Premiership.
He offers Liverpool fans that psychological trap-door of hope above and anguish below. In Premiership title terms with Benitez in charge they’ll always be standing on it.

“Fergie is massively dissapointed deep down with him since he came , but he will never admit it and his own stubborness is costing us. Take a loss and get him out. We’ll be lucky to get 10 million for Berbatov.”

1000% TRUTH!

Please read, reflect and try to understand what I have written ( and try to read it all…not ignore the bits that don’t fit your argument).

You are consistently missing out a crucial part of the law (that I have repeated) that determines whether a red card should be handed out. I’ll emphasise it below in capital letters to help you out (I say emphasise it to YOU because I suspect everyone one else understands the specific point I am making regardless of what team they support). My point is on the laws of the game, do you believe that the laws should be applied differently depending upon which team you support?

Here goes …concentrate….

Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity TO AN OPPONENT MOVING TOWARDS THE PLAYERS GOAL goal by an offence punishable by a free-kick or a penalty kick.

I am prepared to stand corrected but I shall on this occasion, especially for you, enter the realms of conjecture/assumption/subjectivity/unsubstantiated commentary and say that ….

You are unlikely to concede the point because you don’t want to admit on this occasion you are wrong and have been shown to other readers that you are wrong.

On the red card argument I think I have objectively and clearly articulated why your opinion on the decision is wrong.

Even now, you have an opportunity to redeem yourself (partly) at this juncture. Will you take it by doing the right thing or will you persist with your current line of argument and dig yourself deeper and deeper into oblivion. Your credibility is on the line here. To take a leaf out of your previous comment…a word of advice….think clearly before you respond, and when you do respond my advice would be to concede the argument in a respectful and honorable way.

The floor is yours.

The ball Giggsy played in to Owen against City was travelling at a similar angle. By your understanding, that was not a goal scoring opportunity either. So, I can’t understand how he managed to score a goal from that position then…

A word of advice – don’t throw around the word ‘fact’ like it adds weight to your ramblings. You clearly have as much of a grasp of it’s meaning as your manager. The sky is green, fact.

The fact remains that the ‘professional foul’ is not worded in the laws of football. Unless you want to use other out of date and revised laws too to make an argument or suggest someone is making a fool of themselves by merely questioning inaccurate/incorrect statements by another user.

I am not repeating myself to ‘make the professional foul rule disappear’ …with the greatest respect I am trying to make the point (although you still don’t seem to get it) that in the incident you are referring to, the requirement for a red card to be given out, was that Owen would have needed to be running towards the goal (to get to the ball the line of his run was not at the goal…he was running at an angle taking him away from the goal).

Hopefully this is clear, you don’t need to do any homework….I’ve already done it by quoting from the laws of the game….you just need to read and understand plain English.

If you want to ‘run along’ and find the ruling that says Carragher should have been sent off then do so. But until you find it I suggest you stick to the facts that have been presented and refer to the current laws of the game, before you question the decision made by the referee or the comments of someone who has bothered to check the facts and has the audacity to state you’re wrong.

I’ll let others decide who is making a fool out of themselves.

Do your homework before coming on here making a fool out of yourself eh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_foul

What Carragher did was a professional foul and by the laws of the game should have been sent off.

Now, run along.

I quote one FIFA’s Laws on what is a red card offence. Fact. I am not aware of a ‘professional foul’ law.

The line of Owen’s run was not towards goal. It was angled to chase the pass – his run was taking him more towards the corner flag. Fact.

With respect to last season’s incident. Gerrard played the ball past Vidic and was dragged down whilst running at the goal. Red card offence (see earlier ruling by FIFA). Fact.

In terms of your reference on a professional foul.
Professional foul – a professional foul is a deliberate act of foul play, usually to prevent an opponent scoring.

Where does this come from? Did you make this up?

Again, in case you didn’t read the law of the game (quoted earlier) Sending-off offence = Denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player’s goal.

Is that clear yet?