This time last year we had to read almost on a daily basis that Cristiano Ronaldo was heading to Real Madrid. Anything that United did on the pitch was overshadowed by stories that a deal had already been put in place for him to leave for Spain.
It was time for him to go and our fans were confident we already had a player who would step up to the plate: Wayne Rooney.
We were right to put our faith in the lad, with him already having scored 8 more goals in the league than Ronaldo did all of last season. The PFA Player of the Year shortlist has been announced today and Rooney is rightly the favourite to scoop the award. Great stuff.
Arsenal fans are now set to experience the same frustrations of reading about their best player constantly linked with a move away. This is something they are no stranger to, of course, with Cesc Fabregas always being tipped to return to his boyhood club, Barcelona, to play for his idol, Pep Guardiola. However, when the season ends, they should expect daily updates on the situation.
Arsenal chairman, Peter Hill-Wood, moved to play down the transfer rumour this week, and remarkably claimed that their best player wouldn’t even get in Barcelona’s team, which surely rubbed salt in the wounds of Arsenal fans who recently watched Barca play them off the park home and away.
“There was a private conversation that took place in the boardroom and assurances have been made at the highest possible level,” said Hill-Wood. “Arsenal do not expect those to be broken. They said to us they are not interested. Subsequent to the conversation, if they are interested at any time in the future, they would come to us direct. However I’m not sure they are going to do that, because they told us they are pretty happy with what they have got and are pretty happy with their current players. If you want my opinion, I’m not sure he would even get in their team. Do they need him? I’m not sure that they do. We hope he stays with us for a very long time.”
North London breathed a sigh of relief but today Barcelona claimed no such promises had been made and will put a bid in this summer if they want to.
“If Barcelona considers it necessary for the team, we will go after him, always respecting the negotiations,” said Barcelona’s sporting director Txiki Bergirlstain. “We’ve never said that we will not try to sign Cesc Fabregas. We’ll see what happens.”
Arsenal will improve on their fourth place finish of last season but have gone another year without any silverware, Fabregas’ fifth year without a winners’ medal.
No doubt we will all become bored of the daily stories about Fabregas over the coming months but I’d far rather the boredom than hearing about one of our players heading for the exit door!
As for Fabregas, best of luck to him in realising his dream of playing for Barcelona, and hopefully it will turn out better than Ronaldo’s “dream move” to Real Madrid has done so far! Oh well, at least they’ll still have Silvestre…
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really taught this was gonna say we were heavely linked with him.
lol ,if they wanna leave let them go
Real Madrid are just a circus. I think Ronnie will seriously live to regret joining that mob. Fabregas, on the otherhand, will fit like a glove for Barcelona.
Arsenal will get a huge transfer fee for him though and what’s more, unlike the £80m the Glazers pocketed, it will be reinvested in their squad.
that is their problem.hate them all.Barca and guuners.Love united till die.
fred, dont count on that, they are building blocks of flats with the adebayor/toure money, paid off the travis perkins concrete bills with thierry/patrick money, if we sell cesc i expect they will look to spend maybe 15 mill on a replacement but the whole money wont be budgeted out for transfers,maybe a quarter
i dont think it will rumble on as long as the ronaldo saga though, my mate who cuts the grass at the bernabau was promising me ronaldo was signing for madrid before ronaldo was giving it I STAY on sky sports interviewing himself, barca just have to make a big bid, fab wont even get a choice
@ arsene wenger, lmao fucking brilliant, funnily enough my mate cuts the grass at the Camp Nou, and he says he definetly is not signing, he is signing for us so the tea Lady at old trafford says. lol
redscot,laugh as much as you like, they guy used to work for arsenal and was my mate in school ask costas exactly what i told him the day before it was official that ronaldo bid had been accepted, and also about the 4 galactico signings before they even signed kaka
while ronaldo was sayin i stay, i thought he was gonna stay too to be honest
I have a secret arrangement with Arsene. We’re gonna swap Fabregass for Rooney (oh yeah, I know what I’m doin’), they need someone to score the goals and we need someone who knows how to play football! This is going to be my swan song master stroke!
BTW we’re gonna keep Berba on pay-as-you-score basis, clever hey?
“Alex Fergusson” – Arsenal’s highest scorer, Fabregas, has only scored 3 more goals than Berbatov in the league this season, and I’m pretty sure they can more or less be accounted for by penalties. Think before you speak eh.
lol rooney plus 10mill and you have a deal
Was he cutting the grass, or smoking it?
lol willie, he was the trainee groundsman at arsenal, till we moved training grounds, then he became chief groundsman at the emirates and the guy who trained him just took care of the training grounds, they created that sunlight idea, wembley and real madrid had been tryin to temp the old boy for years, but madrid evantually just took my pal towards the end of last season because they were playin on a sand pit
redscot- He is telling the truth mate, arsene wenger. About him telling us about the Galactico signings.
willierednut- “Was he cutting the grass, or smoking it?”
Haha quality mate.
the guy did stitch arsenal up though, the arsenal turf comes from germany and they pre order it 2 years in advance, well the guy was working for arsenal and ordered the best green for madrid and arsenal had 2 settle for the second best quality this year but at least i get a free cl final ticket
david villa was meant to be the 4th galactico signing but they couldnt make a deal so they signed your guy the frenchman instead
How come sir Alex can spell his own name??????
I think Arsenal ought to sell him to be honest, he’s worth an absolute mint and they need two or three more combative players in the squad more than they need him.
Unlucky for Arsenal really because Fabregas is a top player. Ironically a top player in midfield is something we need. It’s a shame we can’t sign him to be honest with you.
I expect Barcelona will not use the media as the fascists did through Marca with Ronnie. Barcelona seem to have some sort of class about them. Which is rare in football these days.
arsene wenger did in fact call the Ronaldo thing at the time. That being said, willie’s line about the grass was genius.
lol i can say, grass has been smoked by a real madrid employee
AlphaRS i wouldnt call barca classy with the media, they just get their players to sing fabs praises and talk about barca in his blood, the thing is it aint barcas money in his pocket and they aint respecting that, honestly im not sure they can afford fab and im not sure he would make their team, thats an expensive risk
if they wanna give us toure and sergio and pedro we can arrange a deal
@arsene wenger
True say actually about Barca players talking about Fabregas in the press. Didn’t look at it from that angle. Just thought that it was blatantly obvious The Fascists were using Marca to unsettle Ronnie.
What valuation would you put on Fabregas?I’d say about £40 – £45 million? Or is that too conservative?
How old are Xavi and Iniesta though? I wouldn’t think that Fabregas would wanna sit on the bench if he did move there.
The moral of the story is simple as far as Arsenal is concerned, dont listen to press releases, agents, factual media reports, Club officials on both sides,players with in the clubs, hotel or recognised meeting places for deals to be arranged,people who actually pull the sides together.Just ask the fucking groundsman , makes total sense,its hit like a ballastic missle, how remiss of me for ignoring this detail.
Back to work in the real world.
If Zlatan can make the Barca team, then i think Fabregas can as well.
marca did unsettle ronaldo, but he had already signed a deal and was playing with the media anyway with the stay stay stay, i know we cant expect him to say yes im leaving but him and man utd had an agreement with real for a year which truly was unclassy, they just hit ronaldo from a different angle to sell papers because they even reported the deal was done, but the case of fabregas, its like their chairman saying barca is in his blood, they just do it as a club, they dont even need the press,they are blatant
I also think it’s funny that Arsenal said Barca gave them their word, that they wouldn’t come in for him, it’s a free market.
fifa want us to stop snatching youngsters but we go direct to the player as no one owns a youngster, madrid and barca just turn players heads with promises and ‘gifts’ but fifa just sit back, i mean if steve sidwell turned out amazing would you expect to see peter hill wood on tv sayin he has arsenal blood and will play for us again? or if shawcross becomes the new rio will malcolm glazer go to the news to talk about shawcross? madrid and barca are just two bitch made clubs,and all the talkin is done by presidents and candidates and players but never the managers because how can fifa take action against a club president that has no money on the line and may not even be directly as yet associated with the clubs?
lol willie, i think hillwood was just messing with them because they like to mess with people, i think arsenal should just bid 200mill for messi, we could raise the money and we’d probably make a profit in the long run like ronaldo or beckham have for madrid, but would barcas creditors sit back an let them turn it down?
Well where would you play Fabregas at Barcelona and who do you drop?
I think as long as Wenger is at Arsenal Fabregas should keep the faith
Just look at what has happened to Ronaldo – although Barcelona inherits a more stable model than Madrid’s.
Anyway who cares – if players still want to run to Madrid they are beyond stupidity
The truth is at the moment Barcelona are still the team in Spain – and that will not change with or without Fabregas
what a borrrrrrrring day.
Mg
i’d drop segio busquets hes shite
Scott, to be fair to Ronaldo, he is having a pretty good season. He has 25 goals in 28 games. Messi has 40 goals in 44 games. So thats pretty much the same scoring ratio for both players.
As for Fabregas, i cant see why he would go to Barca yet. With Xavi and Iniesta running the midfield, Fabregas wont even start. My money is on Fabregas moving next season.
Who cares about an Arsenal player?
arsene wenger – hey WB mate glad to see you back on here how u doing it is a shame non of us will lift the premiership that the bad guys who karma should be biting c Chelsea they let off lightly if there was any justice Chelsea would be 5th, and the decisions they have got the bolton game summed up the luck they have been getting.
I do not think barca are that much of a bad club they do dirty tactics and I do not think they unsettle players like the fascist do. I said this a phew weeks ago well on the similar lines the fascist are desperate prostitutes clinging onto that past they once held, they are a club like Liverpool in the 90s who live in the past. They are so desperate they think spending 200 million or more on players will see them takeover barca, they got to get through their thick skulls they are second best, Christ they should not be in a title race they bought their way back in the title race, they are like the losers who no longer get into the party the washed up actor who must settle for B list roles but that washed up actor who cant get into his/her thick skull your washed up get over yourselves. Or in another accompaniment the fascist are the old playboy women trying to get back into the club but she cant except the fact your old washed up and move on and stop living in your small world that no one cares about.
Scott must do, he put the thread up and now we’re debating it.
Looks like slow news day. Boring really
That’s one of the few positives from Ronaldos departure to the virus, we need not experience another summer of will he / wom’t he and ‘only God knows’ bullshit!
You’re welcome to it Arsenal!
Look at what has happened to us since Ronaldo left. If Fabregas leaving has anything like the same impact Arsenal will be in trouble regarding 4th spot.
RTNK,how you doing mate, your right barca arent as brutal as madrid in a normal situation, but in the case of fabregas they kind of have him in an awkward situation and they know it,two years ago they even said they wont come back for fabregas aafter he turned them down back then, they are using guys like pique who was a friend of fabs since childhood to do their dirty work, messi as well, i never hear messi speak like paul schole, but messi breaks cover to talk about cescs dna,they are dirty, but in a way thats more aaceptable (or looks less appaling)
and i agree fully, i didnt want them dirty chav fucks near the title one bit, ancelotti aint the worst coach but their players 2 or 3 inparticular are the dirtiest fucks ,id be ashamed to have them at my club *especially terry and ballack*
I think Cesc will give them one more year at Arsenal to win a trophy.
He must have been excited as hell to see Van Persie proving his phenomenal talent/class last night at spurs.
ronaldo is ok at madrid but there are a lot of ego’s, they all think their the man deep down but raul IS the man and they have to accept it, if he retires or leaves in the summer,and when guti goes, there will be no figure that has to be respected in that dressing room,it will all kick off
i just saw united on MUTV when we battered villa 4-0….
I miss the days of when wazza tevez and ronaldo terrorized the defence
I’m not going to say berbatov is shite but god….do we remember 2007/08? We were unstoppable.
Busquets is not shite. Far from it.
@Macheda IS GOD
2007-2008 was a magical year. You are right, we were unstoppable. Always, always felt like we were just a couple moves away from a goal- especially with the absurd form of Ronnie.
Macheda:
Very true. Some of the goals that Ronaldo scored were a pleasure to have seen. In years to come they will say ‘where you there when Ronaldo scored’ like they might say about Best/Cantona in the present.
Also, he had just as many opportunities last year to score the same amount. He took awhile to recover form after his injury layoff, but if he had finished as lethally as he did in 07-08, I really think he could have come close to 35-40 goals.
Busquets is brilliant player. totally outclassed our midfield in last years CL Final.
Fabregas is a good player but i dont think he is anywhere near xavi or iniesta. Xavi is by far the best central midfielder in the world. his through balls and ability to retain possession is brilliant. Fabregas is 23 though while xavi is 30 so fab maybe a long term replacement for xavi. he will go to barca in the next 2-3 years and everyone knows that
he was sitting besides and chatting with johan laporta in the barca arsenal . The presidential elections take place at barca in the summer so things can change and the new prez may want him sooner than wait for a few more years
@brett1985
It’s tough to pick a favorite, though I think one of my favorite ones was the counterattacking move against Newcastle, Carrick to Rooney to Tevez to Ronaldo. Truly a beauty.
arsene wenger – I love xavi has a player but he is in his 30s and barca will need a player long term because xavi is not getting any younger. I cannot blame barca for wanting a player who actually supports the club in fabrigas who grew up has a barca fan, who he can play alongside iniesta long term because they are of a similar age.
- ronaldo is so full of shit he supported the fascist has a child thats complete BS, firstly he grew up supporting benfica he went there for warmer weather better food more money and he could be more big headed because at united he needed to be in line and I do not like any of his representatives liked that who they sum up what they know about football, his mother I cannot stand she was turnig his head also and she sums up what really pisses me off about ronaldo and his close family and PPL the snobbery of that lot makes me sick. I remember some of his PPL pissing on united has a club on the fascestTV because united never put on a show or manchester has a city is almost poverty stricken when you look at madrid they basically called manchester a dump.
ronaldo overall is nothing but a football snob because manchester does not match up with his image or his way of life, has soon as he came good he could not wait to ship sail to that lot, and that is why he has got off a little lightly with many fans when he could be just of a judas has tevez, united were like the one who built the hot women had to do all the hard work, and the fascest could get to bone that woman if united let ronaldo have his way and leave in summer 2008.
Ithink everybody should vote for silvestre in the arsenal website poll
Yeah ronaldo’s backheel goal and assist brought tears to my eye (Really!) I miss him and tevez…why the fuck did you join city…god We need someone this year in the summer cause i dont want this hernandez to be the “next big thing” and then he wont and sit on his arse at the reserves
We need someone who is fast and creative…Someone fergie SOMEONE
Hope the red knights will buy us in the summer.
Ronaldo made his own bed and i dont feel sorry for him at all. Anyone with an iota of common sense will realise the best place where his talents can flourish with winning trophies is Barcelona or united.
Barca can live without cesc. They have excellent players coming from their youth ranks every year. This year its Pedro. Last year it was busquets
irish red
i really laughed my arse off @ both crap option
I don’t think Ronaldo is that stupid to not understand Real’s position in the grand scheme of things. Fair play to him for making his dream move after giving us such great service. My favorite goal by the way was probably the one against Porto, or against Fulham. Gah, hard to choose!
RNTK, i know exactly what your sayin, but why do they need to keep buttering up fabregas through the media? we all know that unless he picks up an injury or he becomes a drug addict, or just somehow his career goes backwards he will end up at barca ,unless they discover someone better, if barca ask arsenal how much they will get told the askin price, they dont need to turn the players head in this case, deep down they want fabregas to demand a move or put in a transfer request which will push his value down, thats just unclassy. xavi is getting old but he has 2 or 3 good years in him, fabregas may not break into the barca team for 2 to 3 years, bit like huntelaar vs raul last season, the only thing barca are worryin about is iniestas performances this season and the age of thierry, ronaldo’s mother instigated every move ronaldo ever made,he would have signed for arsenal if carlos quirez could be included in the deal, the madrid move was just about becoming a superstar outside of football
No doubting Ronnys class, even if he is a tosser. at least he was our tosser for 6 years. @AIG Thats the point though, Fabregas came through the ranks at Barca, he’s one of their own.
@Willie
Of course he is and he will return home at some stage.
the madrid fans ,some actually turned on ronaldo the other night at the bernabau, i dont think ronaldo will ever admit he made a mistake but deepdown he must know, its all ifs and buts now but messi embarrassed ronaldo the other night big time, even gave him the wink in the handshake
Actually I thought Ronaldo probably did more than Messi in the game. Messi scored based on an amazing pass from Xavi but in the second half Messi missed an easy one on one. Ronaldo had some chances from difficult angles and in the first half had a couple of good runs. I thought Ronaldo was left down by his teammates, which isn’t a surprise as real are shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxMT3Sc5h9M&feature=related
remember that? I miss our european domination We’ve lost it to barcelona in a year.
@brett1985
The Fulham goal for me. He has scored more spectacular ones, but that was a ballsy one that gave us the win in a game we didn’t deserve to win. It’s not easy winning away in the Premiership having played away in Europe 3 days earlier.
brett1985 – ronaldo gave 2 years of great service that is just not enough for me to praise him because lets be frank he could not wait to leave has soon as he came good and what annoys me even more is his mother who knows jackshit of football is turning his head which really pisses me off no ends is his family and representitives who all have underminded fergusons plans.
arsene wenger – that is propably true but the media just put in half assed storys because of fabrigas connections with barcelona but they are interested no question which barca are still bitter how arsenal took fabrigas, ronaldo there was no connections he never supported them it was benfica and that is what pisses me off. He signed a 4 year deal with the club in april 2007 now I may be bitter or I maybe crazy with the bastard but how can he be happy one year and the next year he wants to leave it makes no sence he signed this deal thinking he wants to spend atleast 3 more years at the club united got 1 year and 1 lazy ass year from him, his family and representitives especially his fat bitch of a mother turned his head no question, christ his agent was trying to say to him do not leave united you are making a stupid mistake.
brett, your right messi didnt do a lot, but he could have scored a hat trick apart from good saves,and he did win the game ,ronaldo embarrased himself with 2 or 3 dives and plenty arm waving, and his price tag is embarassing when people compare him and messi, the whole situation is unfortunate for him but i think he should have weighed up what moving for 80 mill would mean when games like that are lost
@brett985
Possibly. The messi goal shows why he is superior at the moment. If you remember the goal. messi had been fouled by Albiol in the opening stages and a clear penalty was denied.
Coming to the barca goal. m essi was fouled by albiol. he immediately got up, took the free kick quickly. played a one two with xavi, outwitted albiol and scored. Ronnie would have rolled on the floor for ages. he has been banging the free kicks against lower teams. when it came to barca he had 2 good chances bust hammered them straight into the wall.
RTNK
No offence but I’ll be honest with you. I’m not even going to start reading your opinion. We have polar opposite views about Ronaldo- find someone else to argue with.
I also agree that he tried a lot against Real, but was fighting mostly on his own, However, there were a few one on ones with Pique in which he might have done better a year or two ago. Unless Pique has become even better over the past 12 months. The bottom line imo, is that Ronaldo’s departure alone wouldn’t be enough for us to become shit or for Real to become world class. You need good players commited to the cause around you.
Dont forget the 2 vital goals against villa in the game last year when kiko scored. We never looked like getting back in it at 2-1 down and were playing poorly to be honest. Ronaldo must get credit for that to
RNTK the next few years will be very interesting ,will ronaldo be the new ronaldinho,i think madrid will just enjoy the circus,i dont think united would have put up with his ego if it went out of control, i think fergie kept the lid on it well but it was beginning to show,his mother is definantly pulling the strings though when it comes to where he will be playing, can you imagine though paying 40-50 mill for a player that was in your youth team lol
arsene wenger – messi was leading the line meaning he was out of position and taking away from area’s where he is deadly. PPL also forget the strength in depth of options of barcelona are nowhere near has good or as effective has last year. no offence but a midfield 3 of toure xavi iniesta all fit and firing with messi henry etoo was a far more deadly force than the team barca fielded last week.
brett1985 – still do not understand how you even think ronaldo was any good last year he was awful propably he was uniteds worst player last season in terms of attitude performence and tracking back, messi and rooney are examples of players who all are not only team players but the way they cover the ground imbarasses players like ronaldo, even today ronaldo is a imbarasment, messi really makes ronaldo look shit.
I know bretts a Ronaldo fan, but i have to agree with him here. Messi had Pedro and Xavi, Ronny had no – one and if the Real fans have turned on him already, well thats typical of them.
RTNK
We had a big argument about this the last time. I don’t think it is wise or productive to go there and I’m sure you will agree.
costas hit the nail on the head,especially with madrid, all the payers are in it for personal gain, they are not pulling together like a team, there will a great sale if madrid actually give a manager licence to build his own team
real 1-0 down at almeria
willie, the problem is ronaldo cost 80mill,messi xavi and pedro cost nothing, ronaldo shouldnt need no one,but thats not him thats just the transfer fee talking, if something dead has something growin on it,how healthy can it be? thats the madrid team and ronaldo
i think this barca team play great football RNTK,but they were far more deadly with eto’o, but messi’s finishing has gone to another level this season,if he was still slightly immature infront of goal, like a couple year ago they wouldnt be so hot
“if something dead has something growin on it,how healthy can it be?”
Pity I can’t think of an amusing Necrophilia reference for that one.
By the way Barcelona’s team is not at all cheap so I don’t think Ronaldo’s transfer looks at all out of place. Xavi/Pedro/Iniesta were all free and all great players but I don’t think anyone really sits down and thinks what a bargain they are in comparison. I’m sure Ronaldo can handle his fee in other words.
willierednut – the fascest spent a small town budget on players, the fascist spending in the sumer cost has much as uniteds entire squad. What is even more imbarassing is the fascist’s playing 11 cost more than barcelona’s entire squad. The fact remains the structure at barcelona and stability and president is well ahead the muppets at the fascist, xavi messi link up play both cost nothing and both came through the youth team. I gave ronaldo no credit when his club spent money only a drunk man would spend they did not have. And if they were wiser they would have kept robben and scneider for more gile and craft and balance and not bother to sign benzema and kaka.
brett1985 – fine but I will never understand how you could even rate ronaldo last year he was a joke.
but his fee suggests that he is the best, when clearly he doesnt get on well with other great players like kaka or higuain and look at the rise of rooney brett
@rtnk
and yet he was by far our top scorer. dosent that say something??
and ronny scores an excellent goal for real dancy past 3 defenders and finishing from a tight angle
arsene wenger – I don’t know what you’re in to, but leave me out of it lol.
ronaldo had the ball enough against barca to do damage with a pass but he wouldnt comtemplate that, why are him and higuan always giving each other evil stares ? then neither flinch when that old snail raul comes on doing fuck all
arsene wenger
Kaka has been poor to my knowledge and Higuain is in it for himself in a monumental way. I feel that Rooney has gone from a 10% shots to goals percentage last season, to what was nearer 20% the last time I checked for several reasons. He gets in the box more, he misses less chances in a careless matter, he doesn’t do those stupid little chips when he should blast it. I think Rooney and Ronaldo complemented each other very well.
lol willie
arsene wenger
Ronaldo and higuain dont get along with each other which reportedly may lead to higuain being sold in the summer
rooney complemented ronaldo you mean, look at rooney now, he has put on a stone in weight because his strike partners actually chase back
dont get me wrong, i think ronaldo is a great player but he could be much better if he actually realised he has team mates not just people there to give him the ball
brett1985 – xavi pedro iniesta either free or came through their youth system are even more of a pat on the back for barcelona on how that club is structured compared to the circus at the spanish capital, and it shows when the fascist spend 80 million on a player that everyone knows about. Off course getting xavi iniesta and pedro on a free is a bargain than spending 80 million on a player no matter who he is, if united had pedro xavi iniesta in midfield with valencia nani and rooney leading the attack united would be so effective has a team united would run rings around teams than having ronaldo.
aig alex is god – tevez was unhappy at the time, rooney was shafted on the left and berbatov was in his first season, rooney has shown put him upfront and he will be a deadly player to have.
Chasing back. Sorry but I just don’t rate that as being relevant to anything.
would you like to sign hiuain AIG? i think he is a good player but he has the ego that is far greater than his talent, ronaldos ego is more in proportion to his skill but he could do so well with a bit more of bergkamp/giggs spirit towards the game and team mates
its relevant to everything when you lose the ball brett
If Higuain leaves Madrid, i certainly wouldn’t want him at United, flat track bully imo.
what happened to pepe?
It is a massive red herring. Ronaldo’s failure to chase back barely cost us a goal. Take the Villa example- he was tackled also lost the ball. Lumbering John Carew was allowed to carry the ball 50 yards. Despite defenders being back no one picked up Barry at the back post. Ronaldo scored twice in that 3:2 win. The main focus on this blog was Ronaldo’s petulance not his match winning contribution.
When other players have since displayed even worse laziness and petulance this blog has taken a totally different tact. Furthermore when Valencia failed to double up with Fletcher Villa scored alongside some poor defending in the middle and we lost 1-0. Lack of proper tracking back was not brought up then.
I digress and I apologise because I don’t for a second attribute all the above sentiments to you but this is my reason why I just think the whole tracking back argument is a red herring.
Hope you all have a pleasant evening as I have to go now
arsene wenger – I totaly agree he way to selfish has a player. I call ronaldo a strikers nightmare because he does not assist much when out wide, ronaldo is maybe one of the worse crossers of the ball I have ever seen. ronaldo is an effective player but he does not have any technical qualitys or much of a football brain it is all power to beat players, when someone like messi he has the cleverness and guile and when he takes on players it has so much class and his goals are more genius, ronaldo 60% of his goals are free kicks penalty or when he gets the ball cuts inside and blasting the ball from distance that is it.
well he will cost at least 20mill so i can see him goin shity or maybe even bayern munich, he looks a bayern type of player
arsene wenger
if the price is right i would like to see him at United. I am not too worried about the ego thing because i am sure SAF will take care of it. he has handled players like that very well before. Higuain is a guranteed 25-30 goals a season and is only 22
It’s no wonder Ronaldo was shaking his head coming off the pitch against Lyon, that dozy twat missed an open net.
I am not defending or anything but if you read his posts carefully he does reason his posts very well
I am not defending brett or anything but if you read his posts carefully he does reason his posts very well
AIG – He wouldn’t make it in England mate, places like Stoke and Hull, he’d be on the first plane home.
i would pay to watch ronaldo play, because he is worth the fee alone wether he is scoring or his team is losin and he is arm wavin, he is top notch entertainment but i bet playing with him when the chips are down can be a bitch, and thats the difference, messi digs in and he puts in a proper defensive shift as well, if ronaldo came back to utd rooney wouldnt take it lying down and move out of his way , he has the taste for stardom again now ,he wont hog it but it wouldnt work if ronaldo wanted all the shine again
lol willie
i think he can. His finishing is good and he has pace. The lyon miss was a one off. everyone does have a few shockers. You dont score 27 goals a season if you arent good enough
i think higuain would work well with rooney, he is quite a big lump but quite mobile AIG, plus he just wants his own shine not the whole shine, but i respect him not bowin down to ronaldo and still survivin in the madrid team this long with ronnie
The opposition in Spain, apart from the big two is very poor and the defending in England is far better imo.
can someone explain this to me, loads said torres would not last in the premiership and now everyone wished they had him before the scousers bought him, so off course higuan would do well in premiership and if you are doing well at the fascist I think he will do wonders at OT
Don’t forget the pace of the premiership is a lot quicker than La Liga.
@willie
The away games in spain arent very easy mate. not as physical as the premier league but i think he can cut it. However real will want over 30 million for him so i am not so sure. he is a striker so he will get chances and plenty of them especially at united and even if you move from spain to england you wont forget how to finish the chances overnight
I don’t know these ppl that said Torres wouldn’t make it in the premiership, i always thought he would.
torres scored only 13 in his best season in la liga
arsene wenger – What about Chamakh, will he gel with RVP?
lol willie, i dont know a player who scores goals that has gel’d with van, its a known fact that him and arshavin dont pass each other the ball, and he became the young players general when thierry was giving out the evil eye, bendtner gets shoved wide when vans about but his ego has a few goals to back it up now so that will be interesting
Brett – I have to disagree with you on the Villa goal I’m afraid. The closest player to Agbonlahor when the goal went in was Nani. Where was Nani when Ronaldo lost the ball? Further ahead of Ronaldo, waiting in the box. He managed to get back in to our box just in time for the cross. Sadly, he didn’t make it quite in time and is too small. Had Ronaldo sprinted back he would have got there in time and is tall enough to make a difference. There may be other examples where you’re spot on but the Villa one is something I looked in to quite a lot at the time… between the fits and shakes
He might have an ego, but you can’t deny his impact when he came on last night.
i think van p is a strange case, he is either loved or disliked, and thats amongst supporters and team mates, theres no middle ground, my dad summed him up by saying he will never see him as an arsenal player like thierry or even freddie even if his talent passes them, he just has that air about him, an arrogance, but its not even a cokiness, it wouldnt suprise me if we offloaded him anyway, 1 big player will leave in the summer, not includin possibly arshavin, then again my dad used to blame dennis bergkamp if we lost games religously
van is clasy, no doubt about it,willie, but every time he is tackled you have to hold your breath and say a prayer,and thats a problem when you play with no plan b
My old man is the same, he will blame Rooney, saf and even Giggsy when United lose a match, just put it down to old age lol.
lol its definantly old age,mind you robin plays darts with JT on thursday nights, takes a certain type to do that
Ronaldo is better than Messi, put Messi on a different squad…simples. Put Fabregas on a new squad…simples proof KAKA! Rooney is lethal because mutd plays to the blue print.Rooney is good for England ,because Walcott plays to Rooney`s direct style. What`s happening to the EPL we lost our mojo in the CL.Rooney will win PFA and Cesc will win YPFA too predictable.Poor Drogba just has no class plays good for club and woeful for country
If Fab leaves bye you won`t be captain their I`ve learn the hard-way, never support the player. Support the club once they leave I wish them well, but life goes on and players come and go! I love Wenger dearly and I will thank him too when he leaves. To be honest I`m looking forward to Wilshire the new scholes imo .
Believe me or not, but I have heard there has been contact between Guardiola and Wenger on numerous occasions. Pep apparently loves London and visits regularly with his family.
From what I hear, Wenger would move up to some other position and Pep would come in as the manager. Why bring Cesc to Barca when you can bring Barca to Cesc. He won’t leave if his idol is manager.
We have 80-100 Million to spend, aparently. I bet Shitty will put a bid in if it becomes public he wants a move. I’d have him here tomorrow. Plays football with passion and knows where the goal is.
Guardiola may like London, but he’s born and raised Barcelona, played their from the youth team. ‘Why bring Cesc to Barca when you can bring Barca to Cesc’? He can’t bring the whole of Barcelona’s squad with him, Cesc isn’t that valuable a player to quit being manager of the best club in the world for a player worse than that of Xavi or Iniesta, no offence Arsenal fans.
Your dreaming if you think Fabregas will go anywhere else but Barcelona btw. He’ll go there and be understudy to Xavi for a while, or they’ll push Iniesta onto the left wing as Henry has been awful this season. Xavi is 30 so they need a long term replacement soon and Fabregas is a good option for them, it’s simple logic. He’s from Barcelona youth, he loves Barcelona, and Barcelona need a very Fabregas like player long term and they definitely have enough money.
@pat
honestly speaking fabregas wont get into barcas midfield yet.iniesta and xavi are better than him.he has time on his side though and with the master xavi besides him he will learn a lot
chrispiano, but they only gave guardiola a years contract extension, so at the end of next season he is free, perhaps he would like to be a real manager and make the decisions instead of having the technical directors decide who to sign and where to play who
Scott I wont deny having to take a deep breath at times with some of the blog articles but it would be unfair to get too up tight about disagreements as you can’t be expected to please everyone.
What I will say is once players are gone, I say enjoy them and look back fondly if by and large they were good players. This to include Ronaldo and Tevez. That may be hard but what is even more undesirable is to build too negative a picture of players because then it is impossible to look back at the 2007-8 season with so much fondness.
Well am just glad someone else can go through the circus instead of us this year and when fabregas leaves I’ll be ready to gloat just like all the l’arse fans did when Ronaldo left.
With the money l’arse could always sign Danny Rose.
As someone who has many friends who support Barca, Iniesta is not better than Cesc. They were actually glad he was out of the CL tie because he’s been really bad this season, apparently. Not my words.
Also, Xavi wasn’t as good as Cesc at the same age.
http://desigunner.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/comparing-cesc-and-xavi/
Yes, he got 34 assists last season. How much would Cesc get with 3 world class strikers(Henry, Eto’o, and Messi) to pass to?
Guardiola is a huge fan of English football and he has no long term plans to stay at Barca. What he likes about the idea of joining Arsenal is that he will have freedom with the club and singings, etc.
Xavi is better at controlling a game, much better than Cesc. Nearly impossible to dispossess, but Cesc is more of a threat in the final 3rd and he’s stronger/faster. I think he can surpass Xavi at the rate he’s improving, whether that be at Arsenal or Barca.
Higuian at United? Get fucked. He is a little prick. Can’t do fuck all against a half decent team. He was taking forever on the ball tonight against a average Almeria. Ronaldo is a class act.
@ arsene wenger:
He didn’t sign the contract yet. He told Barca he would at the end of the season, but it was only to keep everyone calm. I hear he’s a real possibility for becoming ARsenal manager in 2 seasons. He knows there is no such thing as ‘long term management’ in Spain.
I’d take Higuain. Deadly finisher, much better than Bendtner.
Don’t see how CHamakh will improve us. He is great at holding up the ball and the best header of the ball in Europe without a doubt. But what good does that do if our crosses are shite?
aig – You keep saying saying “he is a guaranteed 25-30 goals a season” and such like but nothing is guaranteed mate. CAN the likes of Higuain and Villa especially having played in Spain so long guarantee you that amount of goals at United? Not sure they could.
In the Xavi-Cesc debate, I retract something. I don’t think they can be compared as Cesc has started playing much more offensively than he used to. Xavi is like Denilson with actual offensive ability. He keeps it simple with short passes and plays a deep-lying playmaker role. Cesc used to do that when he first came to Arsenal. Cesc is more like Gerrard or Lampard now, with actual technical ability of course. He has that drive forward, something Xavi doesn’t really possess.
Pat mate i’ve never heard something so biased towards Fabregas. Xavi does have drive forward he just isn’t selfish with the ball. Cesc will never be like Gerrard or Lampard because of his complete lack of pace and physical strength. He doesn’t actually have that much of a goal threat he’s scored a lot of his goals from the penalty spot or free kicks. I still think he is a good player but he is not better than Iniesta or Xavi as they have such a good understanding. Also Iniesta has not been as good as you say because he has had injuries and a lot of the time he has been playing on the left wing because Henry has been so ineffective.
Pat – players like scholes dont have that drive on the ball, still players like xavi are fantastic and I would rank has one of the best passers of the ball since scholes it is breathtaking. Iniesta has had injurys but when he is on his game iniesta is in the top 3 of the best midfielders in the world. And pep guadiola will not have the freedom at arsenal since they also have the financial restrictions, and that peter hillwood has the nerve thinking barcelona will not bid for cesc.
King Eric – I brought up fernando torres a phew times, how many said he cant cant finish or score against quality teams and look at him now, higuian would improve uniteds attacking options and he is only 22. I would take him any day of the week instead of benzema who unlike higuan benzema looks a phew pounds over weight.
Right then
Put SAF Wenger and Ancelotti in a debate and you know who would win that no sweat
No doubt about that : )
RTNK – If SAf thought Higuain could do a job for United, then he would have insisted on Higuain as part of the deal for Ronaldo. Furthermore, SAF must have thought Benzema could offer us something because he was prepared to pay 25 million for him.
On Torres, his record for Athletico against Barca and Madrid was very good and everyone i know would class them as big clubs.
Pat – I’m a big fan of Fabregas, but to suggest he’s any where close to Xavi is ott mate. Xavi doesn’t posses drive, take it you didn’t watch him on Saturday controll the game and set up two goals.
Not that I give fuck about anyone else, I read this story this morning. With comments like that if I was cesc I’d hand in a transfer request! Nit good enough! Thanks for the support hill!! Would be my thinking, anyway fuck em
willierednut – fergie has got some players wrong on some occasions, torres record against the fascist is dire, against barca he does have a good record but atletico unusually always play above their level against barca yet they are easy pickings for the fascist. But like I say any player who is doing well at the fascist has got to be a top quality player and he has been playing much better than benzema. I do find benzema one of the most overated players in world football.
but I am getting sick of fans some like pat who do not rate players like xavi because they dont run with the ball through the middle and they dont score 15 goals, xavi is at times such a underated player his passing and the ability to just control games is a joy to behold. and fabrigas is not has good as xavi and iniesta who pat forgets how they run the midfield against united, they were sensational in euro 2008 and iniesta has had injurys but cesc is still not has good as xavi and iniesta in my eyes they are by far the best 2 midfielders in the world.
I was reading the sun and the fascist are a joke, they want rooney and Capello
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2934370/Real-want-Roo-and-Fab.html
see PPL this is the difference between barcelona and the fascist, barca make build stars and quality teams, the fascist buy players like some desperate prostitute, And does anyone else agree the scum sell rooney that will be the straw that breaks the camels back fans will def boycott the club no question anyone else agree with me and that will propably be the straw that will see the red knights put even more pressure on the parasites
if rooney is sold I will cancel my MUTV subscription and I will not buy another thing from the club until united are sold to owners who are fit to run our club
Someone said sign Rose…he is the messiah at the lane…goal of the season lol … look how proud they are making a profit off an Arsenal win(poor yids), like if they won the double. Does ManCity do the same when they win. Its shocking!! http://shop.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs08/detail.php?productid=ST44441&proddesc=Tottenham+Hotspur+2+-***+Arsenal+%2814%2F04%2F10%29&supercategory=0030BRN00067~0030CAT00264&branch=&wcategory=CAT00264&catdesc=&super=0030BRN00067~0030CAT00264&treecode=TRE00017
RTNK
Mate Rooney would never leave – you think he would give up United a team and most importantly a manager in SAF and fuck off to the mob?
Never
You can go to sleep in peace tonight – thank the Lord our Wayne is English not Portugese or whatever that has to fuck off to have a dream
He already is in one
MG – I am not worryed but still I will be boycotting if rooney is sold it is has simple has that.
RTNK
I share your concerns but Ronaldo wanted to go – Rooney doesn’t – the Glazer’s have it easy this time – plus the next United team is now being built around the man himself – do not let the contract bullshit tell you otherwise – it was never meant to be sorted out now he has over two years left I believe anyway and shall be sorted out in due course – in SAF we trust
Higuain won’t be going to United ever, he’s to lightweight for the premiership. SAF thinks Benzema is a better prospect and i value his opinion over anyones.
MG – like I said I am not concerned I am just saying what could happen if it came to worse case scenario. But don’t you agree the fascist are a pathetic club who are a desperate club who are outdated they are ancient how they do things.
Let’s really break it down with the fascist they are a club who are the worst run club in the game today when you truly think about it. I said united were but I was just mad with the scum how they have run the club which is unacceptable, but the fascist have made so many bad mistakes on and off the field their last galacticos era should have seen that club been thrown to the dogs and put up for administration, if this was how united Chelsea arsenal Liverpool they would have been bankrupt 4 times over, their way is such a bad road to go down and for and their wage structure I could not even add up. Their financial results do not add up where in the fuck do they get this money from, if united payed 80 million on one player we would be in hibernation in the transfer market for at least 2 years.
in the 90′s they were rumored to have gone bankrupt but I heard they were bailed out AGAIN. I am so angry that club gets away with such murder, like I said how does anyone even bother funding that club who like south park says Their cash flows out of them like diarrhea from the buffalo and that is true.
WELL not chelsea since Their cash flows out of them like diarrhea from the buffalo well it did between 2003 to 2006
@rooney the new king
I just saw that link you posted and thought I am going to throw that on to RoM. I could not believe it when I saw it. I went to tell my wife and she said, “he will never leave.” I just hope that this does not become a distraction with Rooney’s dear agent seeking to squeeze a couple extra quid out of United.
Commenting on the possible reality that you stated, if Glazers were to sell Rooney, I think that would be a watershed moment in football. Ronaldo left for ridiculous money, but everything is different. Rooney’s British! This may sound crazy to those reading, but I believe that United would FOREVER be stained for letting Rooney leave: he is heartbeat that WANTS to play United (unlike another unnamed player). I do not believe we are inferior to any club, but if the Glazers let Rooney leave, I do not know how we could get a way from that image for quite a while.
Thank goodness the article was published in the Sun and not something reputable.
@619
its The Sun…who believes The Sun..
Just commenting on the whole rubbish about Rooney leaving, while I did comment on if it becomes a reality, I really cannot see it happening for one big reason: Rooney has a head on his shoulder. He seems to recognize that the stability at the club allows him to thrive. He will also know that he will continually be asked to do the same thing here because there is consistency in terms of who is managing. At Madrid, everyone knows that simply is not the case.
WOW! from fabregas to Barca and Now, Rooney Oh dear..can we say media circus!!! you spanish leave England alone ffs!
gunned_down…its not the spanish,its the english media who did this..
According to The Sun, Wayne is heading to Spain due to the massive offer from virus.INC
So in Simon Cowell’s own words: “That is totally, utterly RUBBISH”
Xavi didn’t show drive against madrid. He won’t propel a team, but he stays deep and finds a killer pass., which is just as important as having drive. Overall Cesc is stronger and faster. I never said he’s better. I said he’s much better than Xavi was at 22. Its not even comparable and if Cesc keeps improving at this rate he will end up being better than Xavi. Remember, Arsenal do not have fast forwards atm. Cesc and Henry had a great understanding. Xavi had Eto’o, Messi,Henry running onto his passes in his bet ever season.
Cesc has gotten much stronger and faster this season. He shrugs off a lot more challenges and actually stays on his feet a lot more than Gerrard. His run against Villa for example. Cesc has scored maybe 4(at most) penalties this season. The rest of his goals are from open play
Oh i forgot to say this yesterday
R.I.P 96
LOL MANCINI SUSPENDED TILL 2011-2012 SEASON XD
@King Eric
Hi mate.
I honestly think they can. You have a point . People had doubts about Torres but he did deliver. The main strength about Villa and Higuain is their finishing. I know higuain has gone mising in the games aghainst barca but apart from a chance in the first half he hardly got any chances. Barca were that good. Both are good finishers and honestly speaking whether you move form Spain to England you surely dont forget how to finish your chances. If its some midfielder we can have our doubts whether he can cope up with the physical aspect of the premier league but for a striker it shouldnt be a problem especially at United whre we do create plenty of chances. Given the presence of SAF someone like Higuain can only get better
@pat
Cesc is a good player but he goes missing many times in big games. Xavi often comes into the limelight in the big games. He was the MOTM in the CL Final last year,player of the tournament at the Euros in 2008 and got 2 assists on saturday against Madrid, could have been 4 had messi buried the 2 other one on ones he got.
Also i think for a 23 year old cesc is way too injury prone. he should be fit enough to play atleast 50 odd games a season
I do Agree that he has time on his side and whether he will become better than xavi i dont know but if he keeps improving like he did this season he will become one of the best.
Van Persie to United! CMON!
just to keep up with this la liga mood
, the goal ronnie scored yesterday against almeria is the perfect example of why he was running away from the premier league.that was a total soft play from the defenders and had me thinking, what if it was against stoke or boro ??
@ pat
“His run against Villa for example. ” i think you are referring to the run against spurs from the halfway line. fabregas is simply the younger xavi wish we had him in our ranks
sorry to go off topic, but isn’t it legal to make loan moves mid way through the season? We should loan all our youth players to Pompey if you ask me. Let them play in an FA Cup final, and let us give ourselves a better chance of not letting Cheksea win anything this season!
Fabio, De Laet, Obertan, Macheda, Diouf, Possebon, Gibson, Keane, Pogba…. the kids could do a job!
This Rooney and Real business. I don’t see it.
Nothing sells papers like than another ‘United in so much debt that another big name will be sold’ story.
Plus English players don’t have that pull to Spain that the overseas stars do.
I see that the gooners are staring to flood the web(guadian blong in this case) complaining how they had the worst injuries and if not for them they would have been in for a Treble probably.
Doesn’t this get old year after year? If your squad is so thin and fragile maybe it is good idea to invest in some better squad players or?
@ Anon
The FA Cup final is after the season ends so maybe we can loan the rooneys, fletchers and vidics for one game
@anon
and pompey should loan Danny Rose too…lol
I see from Today’s Sun that your optimism has come back to bite you in the bum!
Rooney to Real will be the mantra of this summer!!
Have fun
Pat – Xavi doesn’t drive on, he just plays killer balls, which is just as important. Hmmm contridiction there me thinks.
AIG – Ask yourself why he didn’t get any chances against Barca, he went missing mate and give Ronny no help at all.
@willie
simply becasue they were overrun in midfield by xavi, keita and busqutes. Whenever ronny got into decent positions all he did was fall over or take a shot himself. he hardly ever tries to pass the ball around the box.
Rooneys in contention for the derby.
Jonners – Everything that comes out of the Sun is gods honest truth, not!
Xavi is much faster that Cesc, Cesc is so unbelievably slow but he is agile.
AIG – In the games that mattered for Madrid, Higuain was no where to be seen. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this, but i don’t want him at United. Our record with players from Argentina leaves a lot to be desired in any case.
@willie
Ok mate. Although i must add that those 2 games are the only games where he hasnt done well but then neither has ronny. Most of the games he did a good job and rescued them from difficult situations. Also he and ronny dont see eye to eye which could be another reason they dont perform very well together
he isnt the first choice striker i would want at United but if he comes i would welcome him and am sure he can be a success
TBH, I don’t even care bout Fabregas.
Jonners – Rooney has said he wants to spend the rest of his career at United and it doesn’t take a genius to work out that if he ever did leave us, it wouldn’t be to sign for Real Madrid!
In contrast, Fabregas obviously wants to go to Barcelona at some point.
Nobody can take the Rooney rumour seriously but I think everyone expects Fabregas to go to Barca, whether it’s this summer or not.
Fuck that pal. How about Justice for the 39?
Higuain is a little prick who I want nowehere near United.
King eric
I never said anything about justice
I just said RIP
Anyone hear Wenger today? He was accusing the English media of trying to stir up the Fabregas to Barca rumours. He’s got a point, look at how they keep pushing this bullshit Rooney to Madrid story. Typical shite British media, more happy fantasising about the demise of English teams rather than celebrating them.
@ Fred What you dont think Selling Wayne to Madrid is not a great idea, come on, its a cracking thought, think what it will do,Keep the Glazer in place, great idea in my humble opinion.
Is that Rambling enough for you, pmsl