Remember the years of rivalry with Arsenal? The punch-ups, the tunnel chases, the red cards, the penalties, the head-butts… ah yes, those were the days.
Sadly for Arsenal fans, their club haven’t been able to sustain the success they enjoyed as our rivals, failing to win back to back titles under Wenger and reaching just one European Cup final. They have been “in transition” since 2005, like United were, however they haven’t managed to develop out of this period yet.
In contrast, United have gone from strength to strength since 2005, winning the title three years in a row, winning the European Cup (and reaching another final) and the League Cup.
Manchester United are in the process of doing the best bit of business in football history in claiming £80m for Cristiano Ronaldo from Real Madrid. Whilst other players, like Nicolas Anelka, might have made their club more of a relative profit, no deal can be compared with this of Ronaldo, who not only is being sold on for £68m profit, but who played a massive part in three league titles and a European Cup win. We’ve got all we possibly could out him, yet still made a fortune on his sale.
Ronaldo’s reason for leaving was he’d won everything in England, as well as scoring goals in the final of the European Cup, FA Cup and League Cup for United. Arsenal captain, Cesc Fabregas, wishes he had the same reason for leaving Arsenal.
“The absence of titles at Arsenal is what angers me the most,” said Fabregas. “Cristiano said he’s leaving Manchester United because he had nothing else to win. For me right now it is the exact opposite, seeing the impotence. This year we wanted it, we were giving everything – but we couldn’t reach the level that everyone expected of Arsenal. When you win, you’re well. But when you don’t, everyone is in a bad mood. For four years now, we’ve needed a title to regain our belief in ourselves.”
Man Utd News 24/7
that a lot of words he used there without getting injured
come to united if ya want to win something
Brilliant one,ghtt!!
Ghtt spot on. come to united, win it all
yep, come join the post Cristiano revolution Cesc, we’ll welcome you with open arms… well I would. Awesome player.
To be fair he hasnt got injured that often and on comparison if we had him he would be first choice on our team. He is pure quality!
We can slag off arsenal all we want but to be honest they havent had the resourses to compete with us! Im actulay glad they didnt!!!
Of course he wishes for Ronaldo’s problem. Who wouldnt ? He is being completely objective and showing the desire. As an Arsenal fan, I would be more worried if he wasnt angry and demanding more of his team mates. I think its a very refreshing and honest attitude.
And no.. it isnt an invitation for anyone to bid for him. Its the exact opposite – he does not want to leave an unfinished business.
sign him up…..
As an Arsenal fan, nice to see a bit of anger on Cesc’s part. Often looked last season as though he needed a bit of electrifying. That said, I think we’ll struggle to keep him next summer.
Jonny
is it anger that can be turned into passion ,which is good for arsenal
or anger out of pure frustration,which is bad for arsenal
GHTT – Quality comment mate. I said to a few people that after he’d won the European Championship, he’ll develop a stronger taste for winning the big prizes. And the longer Arsenal fail to win anything, the more irriated he will get and will eventually move on. After all, Barca are sniffing around at the moment. Henry got fed up with not winning the European Cup after experiencing International honours and eventually left, a decision that was vindicated after Barcelona won the European Cup last season.
trevor, have Arsenal and Wenger not insisted that they have the money to spend? Wenger has chosen to keep it in the bank if one is to believe reports I have read that indicate he has confirmed this himself. Stories have also been run that the board are not totally in support of Wenger’s strategy and that they want him to use the money . It could be a shrewed house-keeping strategy in the long term, I don’t know, but we can’t give them that ‘can’t compete with United’s spending’ excuse when they refute it themselves.
Lad’s you’re conveniently forgetting the reason Arsenal haven’t competed for the the last four years is that they had to fork out £300m quid on a new stadium.
I’d hope anger that can become constructive. If Cesc is the world class quality footballer his is seen as by most then I wouldn’t expect him to quit just because its a bit more difficult than he’d like.
At the rate we are going no 1 will be coming 2 OT.
Strange I purchased fabregas yesterday on my 09…..Sign perhaps?
Failure might drive
Relax Willie, its early days still…
And if you’re proven correct (which you won’t be) and there are no new arrivals, boo f’ing hoo. I’d almost be pleasantly relieved to see how the lads we have now can get on.
Drew Vader seeing young ones being raised while the EPL is going on is not gonna make us champs.
We need new players deal with it.
No youth
Just experienced players.
Macheda — Truth be told, odds would be against us being Champs against this season anyway, even if we kept hold of Ronnie and Carlos. I mean seriously, can anyone tell me the last time a team won it four in a row?
And not being Champs isn’t the end of the world homes…
Drew Vader, Im always relaxed just frustrated every summer seems 2 be the same, 2 players at least then ill be happy.
This is quality from Fabregas.
I love the “ronaldo left because he’s won everything here, for me its the opposite” hahahahha!
I keep copying and pasting that to my gooner friends. They’re not happy
Drew, of course we can do 4 in a row we are man utd.
@ Drew Vader
“I mean seriously, can anyone tell me the last time a team won it four in a row? ”
that will be us next season hopefully with the correct signings, but i think we still would win it if we kept ron and tevez and plus the first regulars coming back from injury e.g brown and hargreaves would be a bonus.
first team regulars* ^
@Macheda Is God: I bought him on 09 too about 6 months ago, as he weas the perfect player to replace Scholes in my squad and I had brought in a new striker upfront also to play with Rooney ( Aguero ) Oh how I wished the fantasies of video games would come true….
Does anyone think perhaps that there is a hint of desperation about our transfer moves in the last week or so, with going for a player like Rossi, who is undoubted class, but not the type of player we wish to pair up with Rooney and Berbatov? I thought we were looking for a killer finish in front of goal, along with genuine pace.
I dont like the fact that everyone available in the top 10 players in the world seem to want Spain and are openly turning away from Man Utd. Sure the climate and the economy has a lot to do with it
Maybe I am talking from a bias since I am a Utd fan, but hell I would play for food if asked!! 
I just hope SAF can pull a bunny from the hat this summer, cos we are seriously understrength now we have lost 2 of our 4 regular matchwinners…
As for the article, I agree with the Gooner fans. Fab knows Arsenal are too good for fourth place finishes, and he’s pissed off about it. Thats all really.
Cesc you are still young and a potential legend 4 ARSENAL so theres no need 4 u 2 leave but you can pick up your game a little tho! Speak 2 yourcoach and let him know who u would like to see in your team! Thats what Steven Gerrard did and it worked 4 Liverpool! let him know the 09-10 season really makes a difference 2 you 2 see what direction the club is going in!! Then you can make your up mind from there. See what Arsene says than make your decision. We all knw he wants trophies but he has got to make some quality signings in order 4 this 2 happen!! And 4 the last time CASH IN ON ADEBEYOR!!! Arsenal fans all want thiis cause he’s really NOT the guy!! REAL TALK!
If Arsene buys anybody worth buying he’s going to make the $$$ back because of sponsors,adverts,jerseys etc…and hopefully pick up a few trophies!! So can u juz make the fans happy this season and make some key signings please cause we’ve endured all your ideas all this time and had faith BUT……we are still trophy LESS!!! BERMUDA has a HUGE Arsenal fanbase and im tired of Man.U and Liverpool fans having all the bragging rights!! I’ve lost a lotta money!!! ARSENAL 4 LIFE THO!! TRU STORY!
Drew Vader
noone has ever done 4 in a row
but noone can tell me that manchester united cant
I think you have been had.
What do you make of this;
http://www.oleole.com/blogs/arseblog/posts/hook-line-and-sinker–cesc039s-words-absolutely-fine-with-me
Is he saying he is going? i don’t think so.
@Anyone who read the article Arselicked posted:How in hell do you kill someone in the face?!?
With a lump-hammer
why would united want to buy a flop
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Articles/Football/2009/06/23/PremSerie-A-Internacional-on-Nilmar/gnid-57898/
this is not the first link to this guy
@ghtt:Anything to do with United sells.So,they link us with anyone.
sir alex is back from france tomorrow so im waiting this out
i may even just go for a game of golf
WOOHOO!!Sir Alex is back.Now we’re talking.I wonder when he takes a holiday,does he not think of football or do you think his mind is always on football?
id say you could ring him about football during his christmas dinner and he’d answer
Probably.
Sir Alex=God
OK,I’m off to sleep.
Good night,mate.
i didnt think the boogeyman slept at night
im off to play golf:)
You ALL know that I hate the Gonners with a passion…..however might start to forgive a little if they sell us Fabregas…… Well, forgive the fuckers till we get his signature on a contract….
PS: ANYONE HEARD FROM SUHAYL?
Fabregas wouldn’t want to play for us any way, he’d rather go barca. what i hate is, man utd is a world class club, but the attraction it’s getting from world class players is just a big fat 0. so it’s because of the climate ehh. maybe if manchester was located in a sunnier spot the attraction frequency would be higher. if we fail to land the top class players we are targeting e.g benzema then would the blame be on the climate, money or personal preferance of the player? for me, with no doubt, the reason would have to be the damned weather.
As far as I am aware nobody has TURNED UNITED DOWN because we haven’t actually put any concrete bids in yet have we?
Macheda is God – I actually disagree with your comment mate about not wanting to play youth and just BUY in experienced players. That is what United are and have always been about is giving the youth a chance mixed in with experience. I would take not winning the league for a season or two if it means we will build another quailty side. Only problem is with the debt can the Glazers and United afford to not be succesful for a period?
Just so long as the dippers don’t win it!!
Costas is quiet today.
Tony Bee – Ain’t heard from Suhayl pal in weeks!
About 90% the posts that were posted last 2 weeks were mere fakes…exept for costas…most probably united havent made any bid for players like aguro,benzema,villa,….manu will only buy players after the madrid transfers are over…2 reasons
1…when madrid stop buying players then the other top players wont be able to transfer to madrid..this will deflates the price down..
2….after madrid manu will be the only team in the who can afford a 45m plus buy
3…..so the teams like lyon,gremio,wigan,bayern will surely take utd bid first .
4…then the mastero SAF will make his killer moves
thts all
@ King Eric
“I would take not winning the league for a season or two if it means we will build another quailty side.”
maybe sometimes you can call Fergie naive in Europe but what you can’t take away from him is the sides he has build during the years.
7-1 against Rome in itself would have been enough for some hundreds of thousands or millions of people to become ManU addicted.
“Only problem is with the debt can the Glazers and United afford to not be succesful for a period?”
As long as the contracts with the one’s like AoN and others are running and as long as we have the packed house at OT we are safe
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Argh!!! Costas is not for sale ))))))))
I’m with King Eric —
And sorry for my thesis post I’m about to give but F it, I’m bored as hell at work…
I honestly think we can be ok next year with only signing Valencia. But I think that would mean holding on to Frazier. He is still very young and doesn’t absolutley need to move on now in order to save his career or anything like that, he can give it one good solid shot here with us I think… A very sink or swim situation though. But being patient has worked wonders with Fletcher. If the internet and footy blogs and everything was as popular five years ago as it is today Fletch would have been absolutely skinned alive and people would have been sending around petitions on facebook to get him out of our squad. But SAF showed belief and patience with him and we reaped the benefits in the Champs League Semi Finals… So lets not rush the judgment on Frazier just yet…
My ideal formation…
——-Foster——
Wes—Rio—Vida—Pat
——-Carrick——–
A.V.—Fletch—Fabio
—Berba—-Wayne—
–That leaves Frazier as the first option off the bench for strikers. He can come on an add some pace and energy if needs be. Injuries and squad rotation will still leave plenty of games and chances for Kiko and Danny to develop and learn, without being under too much pressure.
–On the wings, we would have plenty of depth with Nani/Tosic/Park/Anderson as options. Not to mention, hopefully Hargo in there at some time, because when fit he is more than capable of doing a job at either right mid or left mid. And why not give Rafael a shot at Right wing? He can put in a decent cross, has the ability to beat a man, has a good football brain it seems, has a decent shot, and loves a tackle. I think we could do much worse…
–In the center of midfield, we could have Ando as a great alternative, Scholes and Giggs to play against weaker sides or to help out in times of need, and hopefully Hargo. Then, we could have Gibbo and Possebon nipping at their heels and pushing for opportunities. And who knows about the Serbian lad Ljaic, he might be only for the reserves when he arrives, or he might kick ass and push for a spot right away.
–And in defense, I think Wes and Rafael (maybe Hargo and JOS) can be more than enough at RB. Pat, Fabio, Deleat and again Hargo and JOS can be enough for LB. Evans and Wes both provide good cover for Rio and Vida. And that Brazilian Dodo is a CB I think.
–And in goal we have a two time Champions League winner as a back up/mentor/Yoda for Englands future number one.
LETS GIVE IT A SHOT!! I think a top 3 finish is very doable with that squad, and who knows, they might even be super motivated to prove people that Ronaldo wasn’t the only reason behind our success.
Spot on Drew. When you see the team on paper it looks very very good with ONLY the signing of Valencia. I would still however like to see Costa and possibly Benzema but £40 million is a piss take. As I said on another post the other day, Ok we may have been weakened with Ron’s departure but it is not like the other top 4 have added to their already threadbare squads. The dippers may likely lose Mascherano and/or Alonso and have only added Johnson thus far. Their attack other than the ladyboy consists of N’gog, Kuyt and Babel. Hardly world beaters. The Rentboys have a very ageing squad, a manager who is completely unproven in England and have no youth to fall back on. Arsenal always seem to have problems anyway. This leaves Citeh who I cannot see even getting top 4 next season. Never mind a top 3 finish Drew we may even win number 19!!
If Arsenal are to win nothing, I can imagine Fabregas and RVP leaving. Heck, they might leave in January.
I wouldn’t put my hopes up for Costa. I heard he ain’t that good. And he’s got a bit of a temper.
if Valencia is to choose RM, he’ll be very stupid. But then there’s a lot of stupidity in football anyway. I personally think Real Madrid are not interested and their name are included for some unknown weird reason by Wigan.
Right now, I’m (imo all of us should) just waiting for SAF to surprise me with a signing or two in the next few weeks.
Basically I just don’t think we should panic buy and splash the cash simply for the sake of getting someone new… It needs to be reasonable, not just to appese the Football Manager crazed fans. And right now, 60 mil for Aguero or Ribery isn’t reasonable. 20 mil or whatever they want for Costa, isn’t reasonable. Nilmar for a box of chocolates isn’t reasonable.
Hi guys.Just managed to log in through a friend’s computer.No internet for me for the next 2-3 days. Just logged in through a friend’s laptop. Take care!
I can’t believe Micheal Jackson is dead costa I’ll miss ya
scott, go on the manchester united site, the proper pictures of the new kit are on there now.
I was wondering where you were,Costa.
@ghtt:How come you changed it to a capital g?And,honestly,I’m surprised he didn’t die sooner.
@ Drew Vader
very possitive post. tnx.
capital g when im on my phone
whats the difference between micheal jackson and SAF? …..SAF will still be playing Giggs this year ….shhhamon ooh ooh
i grew up loving manchester united(everything about them)
micheal jackson
john lennon
brian pillman
and andy kaufman
All of them,except Man United,died young.Shame.
Stenhousmeir
That joke has been going around everywhere.
Jackson died in a childrens ward. Had a stroke.
Eeee heee scha mo mother fucker.
Everytime I think of jacko I just think of Bo Selecta.
GHTT – Yes for a scouser mate, Lennon was a genius, sadly snuffed out by not Mark Chapman but the CIA.
Boogeyman – You could argue United did die young with the Munich disaster!
@King Eric:True,true.
Lennon was snuffed out by the CIA??
lennon was likked by the cia
What do you mean??The CIA killed him??