Comments on: Arsenal’s Wenger: United, Liverpool and Chelsea Should Be Kicked Out Of Europe

By: Jeoff

Jeoff — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:38:14 +0000

Great point OTRed, well made.

By: OTRed

OTRed — Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:51:30 +0000

Does anyone really take anything wanker says seriously??? I mean this is the same guy who never sees anything wrong with his team and said that the refs were conspiring against him last season.

Anyway, does he agree with the 6+5 rule too?

By: steve

steve — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:59:54 +0000

georgedevon
you know what that as not happened and its arsenal who have gone four years without a trophy. man utd have been succesful becuase they have been the best. just face fact arsenal have been average for the past four years why because they have been in decline fact. arsenal get away with so much and the reality is ferguson is in a different league to wenger who makes sure that his sides are physically and mentally ready for the battles. and chelsea despite spending a kings ransom still could do nothing its uniteds buying and setting up a balanced side that as won them the trophys.

By: timbo

timbo — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:48:55 +0000

Ummmm, I’m not being funny, but I’m pretty sure Arsenal have spent a fare amount of money in their day. OK they can’t afford the likes of Man U and Chelsea, but compared to everyone else they are still way out ahead. And lets face it, I hate Man U, but they saw the possibilities at the start of the nineties and took it. We can all complain but basically we’re just jealous. Football’s a business, that’s why we get to enjoy the best league in the world!

By: Wakey

Wakey — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:13:55 +0000

For all the doom and gloom about the Glaziers they really haven’t been that bad as owners. The debt attached to the club looks bad on paper but its been done for business reasons that are common practice as has been detailed in a number of articles over the last year. The club makes enough to service the debt as well as allowing us to spend a good amount on players (53 million on players last season, 20mill the season before that, 20-30mill being available for a striker atm and 30million earmarked for Tevez next summer).

In the meantime by attaching the debt to the club the Glaziers are able invest the money into other avenues that have a higher return than the club would ever make them thus allowing them in the worst case to cover the debt.

They also don’t interfere the same way as the fools over at Liverpool do.

So while it would be better if we had no debt attached to the club its no where near as bad as it seems and on the whole we got one of the better foreign buyers out there

By: cam

cam — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:19:10 +0000

I think wenger says that so he can have a crack at the cl hes only doin it cause arsehole suck and man, chelsea, and LFC are better than arsenal so he think if we can wipe them out we can win, but u wouldnt milan, real and milans would knok u out before u can complain

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:57 +0000

Okay 1st things 1st I stumbled across this article from the newsnow site. However it is a fair article and sums up the rubbish Arsene the Whinger sprouts. Were Arsenal not in debt from building the Library part II? It’s a joke that Platini is trying to be a big shot over this, it’s not like he’s doing anything in the lesser leagues in Europe. I live in Derry and we’re in the Eirecom League of Ireland (Republic Of Ireland league), now please don’t ask about the politics of this Derry/Londonderry is in Northern Ireland but we play in the southern league it’ll take a long time if you really want to find out why just search the web. Anyway I was getting away from my point there but in the last 3 seasons the following has happened, Shelbourne won the 2006 league yet got relegated! Dublin City went bust, Cork City have been deducted 10 points this season and there are serious doubts about the fincial well being of Bohemians, Sligo Rovers and rummours about Finn Harps and Galway United. It’s a joke Shelbourne are still credited with winning the Eirecom Premier League in 2006! Their players certainly didn’t get paid for months and they were relegated because they couldn’t meet their FAI licence, Dublin City (who were a small team) just went bust in the middle of the season. To make matters worse it was a poorly guarded secret that both clubs were in the mire at the begining of the season. It’s classic Platini that he looks at the top level before trying to sort out the crap that happens at lower standard league level. Whilst we’re on the subject will Platini give us “the proper fans” more tickets to European finals, like fXXk he will. Finally Scott you state you hate Liverpool to the core, can we please hold up a second, sure I dislike Man U and it’s the biggest rival in my eyes to my team Liverpool I don’t hate you. Surely hate is part of the problem that we’ve come into, we have to win because we hate them lot so we’ll sell out to Ar$ehol% and Wa£*er to be richer. Surely things were much better in the 60′s and 70′s when Liverpool – United was a football match, hate such be saved for George W Bush or Saddam or Hitler. I applaud AFC Wimbledon and most espically FC United and AFC Liverpool for trying to bring the game back to the ordinary man, and hopefully they’ll succeed and we’ll get back to the athmosphere of the 60′s, but if it’s Anfield, Old Trafford or Stamford Bridge you prefer why should “we” the English teams suffer when there are so many cracks all around the place?

By: Rick

Rick — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:47:36 +0000

In short, Arsene was talking about… Valencia! He had better hope that the stadium debt of his own club doesn’t come up for renewal, or his position will look totally different.

While I don’t like the LBOs, I don’t see how UEFA can do anything about them…. I suspect that the lawyers would make a LOT of money arguing this through the courts. Solution? maybe like Liverpool, leave the debt on the owners (who are really not happy with having to put up collateral).

On the subject of debt, if ManU is so flush, why are there suddenly no purchases of players? My nose tells me that the Glazers are suffering from the credit crunch just like Hicks and Gillett, refinancing will be impossible, and Fergie was told in no uncertain terms that he has no money to buy. Of course, he makes noises… otherwise, the rest of the league – and the bankers – would cotton on to it… he just doesn’t buy. Silvestre and Saha are happening to reduce the wage bill. This isn’t meant as an attack on ManU, just a guess at what is happening.

Prognosis not good for anybody outside of the amateur leagues.

By: Marko

Marko — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:40:23 +0000

Seems like an unnecessary post really. Wenger made a point that your club spends money or should i say borrows money to buy players and that if a club has to take out a loan to buy someone then somethings wrong there. Those Americans who own your club are gonna get bored eventually and sell to whoever and the next guy coming along might be smart and not throw ridiculous money at alright at best players. Hargreaves cost you 18 mil and is injured all the time. Anyway thats my point.

Also I always thought Gary Neville was shite. Thats my opinion.

By: Red Kharma

Red Kharma — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:39:47 +0000

I am a United supporter but also happen to agree that clubs should not be permitted to compete either at home or in Europe with debt. If the FA and FIFA had implemented this years ago we would not have had the Glazers at United at all and Abramovich would have to inject capital not loans into Chelsea. However, I believe this debt rule should apply only to revenue spending. i.e. player trading. It is ridiculous that one club can outbid another by using not their income/reserves but money they don’t have, in the hope of winning trophies/paying it back a la Leeds. It is also detrimental to the supporters who ultimately pay for it through higher ticket prices as we have seen. However you cannot change the rules mid-game, so this should be implemented over say a 5-10 year timeframe. For those Reds who claim we have an operating profit, you’re simply wrong. If we had an operating profit our debt would be lower now than in ’05. It is higher. Also there IS something we can do about it, many of us are. Don’t give Glazer your money. He’s a cnut.