The Ashley Young rumours are gaining more momentum and it looks as though the player could sign today. Last week RoM briefly discussed the pros and cons of signing Young, given that at turning 26, he’s hardly set the world alight.
My thinking is that Antonio Valencia had done much less when we brought him in for £16m a couple of summers ago and look how important he’s turned out to be. Of course, that doesn’t guarantee Young’s success, but you would like to think the manager is capable of spotting players he thinks he can work with and improve.
However, in the reports about Young today, the figure being quoted is £20m. Of course we should expect to pay the ridiculous English tax but this fee seems ridiculous.
Young only has one year remaining on his current contract, which should slash any transfer fee. Let’s not forget that Real Madrid, who spend money like there’s no tomorrow, forked out just £12m for World Cup star Mesut Ozil, as he only had one year remaining. In 2008, they paid a similar figure for Rafael Van der Vaart, also in the last year of his contract.
I won’t be disappointed if Young becomes a United player, even though I’d like to see someone of a higher quality come in to play for us in the centre of the park, but I will be disappointed if we pay £20m for him. Sir Alex has turned down the opportunity to sign some great players at decent prices after claiming there was no value in the market, so paying way over the odds for a good, but not great, player would take the piss.
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agreed
I think the real fee is around £16.5-17.5 million. The media at times tend to inflate prices too
the problem united face is that man citys transfer policy seems to be buy whoever united are going for. the only way united would get young for ~£12m mark is if young stated that he only wanted to move to united. Such as ozil did for madrid last year
Yeah agreed too. Particulary with the last paragraph. He’s probably worth 20 million under normal circumstances, but not when his contract runs out in 12 months and I don’t see any other offers other than ours for him…
What makes me a bit anxious is that having nani, valencia, park and giggs for this season too, won’t that bring in too much of selection problems..
Because what we faced in UCL final was that we were playing with one midfielder with three wingers against possibly the best midfield as of now..
Probably we could save this money and get in sneijder for whatever price.. specially after chelsea have him target as well
However if the fee is £20 million, then…
Agree with you, Scott. What worries me is that a lot of reports also state that if this signing goes through, Nani could be off – bringing in Young to effectively replace Nani doesn’t seem like good business to me.
he has to improve and he will improve beyond our expectations..cos he is going to be at united.but i also think £20m is a big sum of money to pay for him.hope this transfer solves lw problem.saf is appointing best suited persons for their respective positions..
Think £20m is a bit over the top, would prefer to pay somewhere in between the £12-15m bracket. Think he’s good value at that plus he’s English, so theres always going to be premium for that.
There must be competition from Liverpool for his signature to warrant such a fee.
He’s a decent player but not better than what we have already. He’s a standout in a crap Villa side but Villa isn’t United
Does the fact the scouse are after him too mean we have to pay more?
Morning,
£12million would be a fair price for Young.
I see we’ve also been linked with Kagawa from Dortmund today – I’ve seen him play and he looks good. He’s a central playmaker with great technique and weighs in with a fair amount of goals and assists. I could see this one happening – all the talk is of Sneijder etc.., it wouldn’t surprise me if Sir Alex has been letting all the speculation rumble on as a smokerscreen to his real targets. The Japanese guy would also be great for us marketing-wise obviously, which we all know the club consider – Park makes us a fortune!
As a Villa fan, for £20m I’ll drive him up to you myself, he has too much power in the dressing room for my liking.
Will do well at United, as long as you keep him away from dead ball situations.
£20 Million for a player in the last year of their contract?!
Ozil is a better player than Young and was £8 Million less so I don’t think Young should be valued any higher than that. Understandably Villa are gonna try and make as much money as possible but £20 Million really is paying over the odds. Where’s the value in the market there SAF?! Ha.
I can see why Fergie wants another Winger in the squad, but why Young when Sanchez is available and has spoken of his desire to play for us before.
Sanchez has the potential to be world class, whereas Young will never meet that level.
@ Mr C – Yorke was a stand-out player in an average Villa team, we all know what happened to him when he came to Old Trafford. Young has got alot in his locker plus a good attitude and a will to win. Think he’ll be a cracking signing if Sir Alex wants.
i would go for newcastle’s Tiote.
Is it because there are other teams after him that keep the price up?
Does anyone know about this guy? Shinji Kagawa. Another Ninja?
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/06/07/manual_083911.html&TEAMHD=soccer&BID=165
I dont want Young at United, there are fat better players out there than him!
- Alexis Sanchez
- Nasri
- Sneidjer
I think the above is what we need, creativity, spark and someone to get you off your seat like Ronaldo did with his tricks!
While Young is ok, he’d hardly bridge the Gulf in class between Utd & Barca. Would much prefer if Fergie tried going after Wilshire &/or Ramsey (ableit that Wenger would never let them go).
Nani is going no where.Fergie said we will buy 3 players .He never said he will sell 3 players and then buy 3.
We have to replace scholes and hargo.So atleast 1 player should be bought.I feel fergie is buying young so that nani can remain fit for whole season.It would be great to see both nani and young playing.Remember young also has pace so it would be great.And add valencia to that so it would be great.
O feel young is being bought so that we can concentrate on all the competitions.I don’t have problem in young joining us.But like scott is saying 20 millions i stoo much.It should be somewhere between 12-15 milllions.We shouldnt spend 20 millions on young.
It is said he would be our player in next 48 hours so i hope it is true.
£20M for a Young (a winger) seems like too much. Wasn’t a CM the priority? Or at least one would think so. What’s next? Another striker…
Does crack me up some views of fans who don’t see him play week in week out. I’d also like to refer you to the Yorke signing. Young is a quality player and will get better with better players around him, he’s adding more dimensions to his game, he’s hitting his peak and effectively your taking our best player!!! I rate him higher than Milner, trust me with the right players this guy will be top quality. Not his fault that he’s had the likes of NRC and Petrov passing him the ball. Simple for teams to stop Villa, you stop Young and you effectively stop us, its the right move for all concerned i’d say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Young
Wiki says young has joined united.WTF
@neil
i think nani will not be sold.he is coming to his prime and saf knows that better than us.i think by buying young we have omitted our discrepancies on the LW position as we know that in the current squad no one is suited enough to play in that position.i guess it will be bit of a tough situation between the RW position as nani and valecia both are strong competitors for the spot.nani can be played in the middle of the park as well as in an advanced position as bet the two he is the only one who can do that effectively.it will be interesting.
This means Nani is off which would be crazy but what can the boy do to impress ferguson???? Valencia comes back so too does Park and what happens??? Nani who’s been player of the season gets shafted to the bench for the closing games of the season and champions league final.
Wow, the venom on here for Young is deplorable. He’s a fantastic player, and would fit right into our side. He would also free up Nani to play more on the right. Exactly the player we need.
@Villa Fan
Away from dead ball situations? Really? i thought that was one of his strengths.
That said, 20mn for Young is plain ridiculous, considering he will remain a squad player as long as Nani and Valencia are fit and firing.
Posted this already, its from football365.com
CHIQUITITA NOT FOR SALE
Interesting line in The Daily Mail, who report that Real Madrid want Javier Hernandez, and they want him bad.
The paper claims Jose Mourinho ‘is so keen to take Manchester United’s goalscoring sensation to Spain that he has personally told his friend and rival Ferguson to name his price.’
However, Ferguson has apparently told his board to send any offer from Real away without even listening to the numbers, because the wee man ain’t for sale.
The Mail reports that, if they wanted, United could have either Karim Benzema or Gonzalo Higuain in exchange for Hernandez, but United don’t want to sell and will indeed offer the Mexican a new contract in order to ward off the advances of Real.
Incidentally, the paper also claims that Sir Alex is so impressed with Hernandez that he is sniffing around 18-year-old Erick Torres, who also plays for Hernandez’s old club Chivas.
Madrid can go fuck themselves the dirty cunts!!
JUNE 7, 2011 AT 9:21
red says:
I dont want Young at United, there are fat better players out there than him!
Sneijder will cost a fortune, to both buy and keep. Sanchez doesn’t offer us anything we already don’t have, Wenger would never sell to United, nor does he need to. Nasri will most probably end up at City.
Ashley Young is one of the best players in the Premier League. Leagues ahead of the likes of Adam. Him and Bent have combined beautifully for Villa this season, and I shudder to think what he can achieve with the likes of Rooney, Berba and Chicharito.
But other teams were after Ozil too.
I imagine Ozil made it clear he only wanted to go to The Fascists though.
Guys, we shouldn’t forget that Antonio Valencia plays a central role for his national team, as does Park. So if we get Young, we can still play a midfield of Young, Park, Valencia, Nani, (Left to right), and no one will be out of position.
guys, comon…we need young becoz we have only park, giggsy, nani, valencia n young as wingers. park can’t fucking cross the ball n he would not complain sitting on the bench but he will play in big matches. giggsy is not getting any younger n would be used sparingly. nani n valencia will compete for the right wing berth n young will play on the left. young might also play behind chicho or wazza if either of them is injured/ tired.
IN FERGIE WE TRUST=D
Mesut Özil made it clear he wanted to go to the Virus/Little Turkey.
I think the real price should be 16 mil plus addons, that will make it to 19 or 20 mil. Remember we bought Carrick for 18 mil. The prices are higher for english players because of many factors e.g. language, acclimatization, home sickness etc. Although there are better value for money targets available (e.g. Sanchez). The “being english or has been playing in england” factor is the one which has in the past and will in the future decide most of our transfers.
Good morning ROM!
Again, with the people talking how Young will help bridge the gulf between United and Barca. As has been mentioned before, United’s sole purpose is not to defeat or overpower Barcelona. And even if it were in Sir Alex’s mind, how do we know what he has in store with Young that makes you think that he will not help us bridge the gulf.
Seriously, the sooner we all let go of this obsession with Barcelona, the better. We are not City supporters for God’s sakes.
As for Young, I have already mentioned it many times that he is a very good player. And I can see one simple reason for buying him – We need a left winger.
Just cast your mind over it – How many times in the past season have we seen Giggs move to left wing because we had no other choice but to use him?
Nani will never be as effective on the left as he is on the right because his attitude stinks on the left. Park is an amazing worker but he is never going to bomb and provide with inch perfect crosses. And Valencia is a right footed player.
We need somebody who can play on the left and be extremely effective and of all the people who have been linked with us, Young seems a good enough option in that position.
Another reasoning is that Sir Alex values fluidity and dynamism as attributes in his players and Young is pretty effective at that. He can play on the left, right or center and be equally effective. He is good at tracking back and putting his foot in. He can take on his man and beat him. He is also very good at set pieces which Nani isn’t and our corner conversion ratio will increase if we sign in. We have the players who can be dangerous from set pieces only if the balls actually made it near their head.
The only negatives against Young are:
* Do we really need another winger? Nani can play on the left if he puts his mind to it. And in emergency situations, we have the Da Silva twins just in case along with Welbeck, Valencia, Nani and Park.
* He is not “world class” and will not take us “to the next level”. This is complete rubbish IMO. Who is to say he cannot be a world class player when he plays with the likes of Rooney, Giggs, Berbatov, Nani etc week in, week out.
Of course, the main issue here is something StatesideAussie pointed out in the other thread. We can use rotation and our player’s dynamism perfectly, but that means not all of them play together week in and week out and there is less understanding between them as opposed to Barcelona.
The problem here is that we again compare ourselves with Barcelona. They can have players playing in all 38 matches in the season but do you honestly think Xavi, Iniesta and Messi are put under as much stress against Real Valladolid (or some other poor team) as Carrick, Rooney and Giggs are put against somebody like West Ham or Blackpool.
Fact is, playing in the EPL, the F.A. cup, Carling Cup and the Champions League takes on a much bigger physical toll than playing in the Spanish League, Copa Del Ray, Spanish equivalent of the League Cup and the Champions League.
So, we are always going to need a bigger squad and use rotation more effectively than Barcelona. If this means that our first choice is definitely not as strong as Barcelona’s, then that is one price we are going to pay for playing in the toughest scenario possible.
So, taking all that into consideration, I think Young will be a very effective signing. But I do agree with Scott in that he is not worth 20 mil, not in the slightest. About 15 mil will be OK, but that is what you get in the inflated market because of shit clubs like City and Chelsea, unfortunately.
I still have a strong feeling Sir Alex will get Modric or Defour. These are players we have been strongly linked with and Sir Alex wants at least one of them. So, another central midfielder is on the cards IMO.
The media makes up these stupid stories of Nani and chicarito leaving which just pisses me off. They are just trying to raise thier viewership by attracting few excited united fans.
And by the way 20 million is bit too much for a player whose contract is nearing to an end. Young is a very good winger with excellent pace and is a good free kick taker. But if Madrid can get Ozil for peanuts in his last year of contract, then definitly Young should cost around 10 to 15 million.
If you look at Young’s stats he has managed to get good numbers consistently for 5 years, He gets a healthy number of Goals and Assists each playing in midfield or as a forward.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/31810/ashley-young?cc=5739
He can play left and right wing, in a Central Position off the striker.
He has pace, Great Delivery in Open play and from Set pieces ( how many times this season have we looked poor from set pieces)
He is creative and also a goal threat.
I think £20 is a good shout, he ticks all the boxes that are missing from our midfield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Young
£10 for his ability and the other £10m coz his english…
Too much, if he had 3 years left on his contract then yea £20m would be realistic, but with a year left I’d be looking to pay £15m tops.
For 20 million….I’d rather pay a few million more and go for Alexis Sanchez……
Or for 20 mn I think we could even get Nasri for God’s sake!!
Even Nasri is in his final year and 20 mn should be enough to get Nasri I would think!
Young’s father supports Tottenham Hotspur, while Young himself, like his older brother, favoured Arsenal.
Lol. Wouldn’t pay too much attention to Wikipedia.
Any reds here watch The Wire?
If anything, it will be fun to have the spit of Marlow Stansfield in our team.
Looks like the virus are after Hernandez, they should of just made Ferguson their manager for fuck sake they are really starting to piss me off.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1394963/Javier-Hernandez-going-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-rebuff-Jose-Mourinhos-advances.html
Rio on Nasri
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6969109,00.html
Young is in his last year of contract… why on earth would we pay £20m for him? That’s madness.
what jumps out at me straighr away from a glance at his wiki page is the fact that heconstantly gets close to 10 goals in a season and assists close to 15.
Thats 20+ goal a season he’s constantly responsible for. Hernandez and Wazza should be licking their lips at the service they can be expecting
Rio bigging up Nasri,
http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-united/6969131/Rio-hails-excellent-Nasri
@bbabyj
Cos we’re not the only team interested. Villa will want to cash in, and if we want Young, chances are we’ll have to be the highest bidder.
Having said that, he’s been open about his desire to play in the Champions League, and it’s not as if the other team linked with him are going to offer him that…
Liverpool paid 35 million for Caroll and are bidding 20 million for Henderson who looks like a shit player to me. Even chelsea paid 50 million for Torres, who had forgotten how to score. So 20 million for Young looks like a bargain buy considering he has better statistics than the above mentioned players in last few years.
This seems strange a United player talking big about an Arsenal player, no smoke without fire?
i think it will be a fantastic buy i really rate him. The villa fan who said keep him away from set pieces was probably joking knowing how good he is at them.He is proven in the EPL too which has to be a big factor in him coming to utd rather than players like sanchez., although i’ve never seen him play.
Good buy in my eyes.
oh and we always pay over the odds for players!
@Ryan90MUFC
Like Hernandez?
Morning all,
I think the connection between Young and Nani is being overestimated. Nani’s performances dipped when he was moved over to the left to accommodate Valencia; for me, Valencia is a bigger threat to Nani’s United future than Young would be. My suspicion is that SAF may be planning to play Valencia right and Young on the left, allowing Nani to develop into a more central role (not saying it’s gonna work, just a suspicion). That being said, I till think 20 million is too much for someone who is not going to make that much of a difference to the team (anybody watch United this year and think ‘we really need a left winger’?) – I’d much rather we spent in central midfield, more than one addition needed there.
With regard to Madrid asking SAF to name his price for Chico, 45 million plus Ronaldo?
Young’s father supports Tottenham Hotspur, while Young himself, like his older brother, favoured Arsenal.
HE A FUKIN ARSENAL FAN FFS!!!!!!!!
I wonder if United are planning a shock and awe in the transfer market,may be buying three top players all at once.?
Too much money for Young
I’m more excited about Kagawa possibly coming to United
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYuNIpygdc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Young to be baptised a red devil in 48 hrs next is Nasri
Young will fit into any fomation seemlessley, 4-3-3 , 4-5-1, 4-4-2
He delivers a wicked ball, and altho i love Nani, one thing young does that nani doesnt is get the ball whipped in as soon as he gets the slightest sniff, which suits our play perfectly, especially Chico, who plays on the last man.
When did we last score a direct free kick? Young is a great shooter from dead balls.
Great deal if it comes off. Imagine Young Valencia and nani together behind a front man.
PACE!!!!!
The main problem with signing young is that fergie claims he is only bringing in 3 players, which means young, keeper and 1 of de Rossi/ modric/ sneijder
heres hoping he goes against his word you normal :/
And redbeard I would rather have 45 mill plus kaka/ ozil
more united without ronnie and Valencia and nani would never get in :L plus sorts out the scholes problem
Price doesn’t equate to Value.
Rather pay double a players value for the right player than half the value for the wrong player.
If Young has been identified as a player we need, buy him, provided that his cost is affordable.
To say that we should rather add a few million to the kitty and buy the the wrong player instead, just because his market value is much higher, is foolhardy. We are not horse-traders, we are a football team; and the aim is to win trophies nearly every season.
@ Norman – You think we need more than one central midfielder?. I think one will suffice whether it be Modric, Sneijder, De Rossi or whoever Sir Alex deems necessary. If you we are looking at playing the 4-4-1-1 formation regularly, we will have Carrick, Fletch, Ando, Giggs, Gibbo, maybe Cleverely, Park can play there plus new the new signing – thats 8 players that can play in the middle of the park.
Although 20 million is way over the odds for a player in the last year of his contract, I am sure that is not the actual fee. Also, what a lot of people seem to forget when talking about Ozil and possibly van der Vaart is that the reason SAF did not ultimately pursue them is down to wages, not transfer fees. The transfer fee is a one-time thing, so paying a few million extra quid will not affect us significantly, but paying an incoming player 100000+ a week would be a plain insult to all of our players (save Rooney, of course; although he would have also been counted in that bracket last summer) who have gotten us to where we are but would be earning less. That would cause a lot of unnecessary wage hikes among our own players, which would outweigh any sort of ‘bargain’ that could be had. This is in no way a vindication of the Glazers, but I would rather be a financially responsible club as far as wages are concerned than be like Spurs or Real Madrid, both of whom seem to throw money around. Once you start overinflating wages, there is no turning back.
That is also the reason why we will never sign Sneijder, so I suggest not hoping too high for that one. Modric would be a much better target.
Or Nasri for that matter. For the 110,000 a week that he purportedly wants, that would make him the second highest paid player on our team. That would just be ridiculous.
I think signing Young @£20m – overpriced!
think its now obvious young was the player sir alex tried to sign in the january window and has been a target for a 3 or 4 yrs.i remember a few years ago utd were being linked to him this was before ronaldo left,i remember at the time o’neil making comments that young was in ronaldo’s class,i know that was a stupid statement my point being young has been a long time target of sir alex.
i don’t watch villa very often so can’t make any type of judgement on value but the fact sir alex has been chasing him for years must mean something.
We shouldn’t pay more than £15m-£16m for him. Otherwise let him run his contract out and take him next year for f*** all
@ wayne – One of my mates is a Villa season ticket holder and he’s always going on about how good Young actually is, he said that he’d be a class signing for us and that he would only get better playing with better players. We would be able to take him onto the next level. If Sir Alex deems £20m value for him then sobeit.
Jumping Jesus
Ever seen the qualification “Prices valid until stocks run out” on brochures?
If he is the right player and is affordable, buy him. Next year he may be unavailable.
BerbaGod – Totally agree with ya mate, altho that one signing needs to be better than anything we have tbh. we dont have a natural holding midfielder, Carrick was certainly found out in the CL final.
Balaji – You’ve pretty much summed it up mate. Cracking post. I’m a long time Young skeptic, but I’m willing to give the lad a chance. As Wayne pointed out, it seems United have been tracking Young for a while, so maybe we should respect the managers decision and give Young the benefit of the doubt.
i like nani and he’s becoming world class but never been sure he’s a utd ‘lifer’,so the rumors about him being unhappy and not adverse to a move could be well true,utd will get 30mill+ for him and wouldn’t surprise me to see him gone this summer.
just like to say some lads saying young is not worth 20mill more like 16-17mill,really in this day and age 3mill is going to stop utd signing him if sir alex is convinced young is going to be useful to us.
Ashley Young will be a real star at United, mark my words! Apart from his obvious talent,he can play right across the park in midfield! he can take corners too, never know ,we might score from a corner more times next year!
What the fuck !!!!!!!!, this is what is wrong with this current great defense great forward line and great wingers but mediocre central midfielders, that as been the problem for 2 years now. so why are we buying more wingers and a mediocre one at that, and the taught of him replacing nani are u shiting me. If nani was sold all the imagination would be lost out of this current team, no flair no excitement boring typical english style. a year ago we passed on Joao moutinho, we really didn’t try after sneijder and worst of all to see ozil go to real for 12 mil truely sad, now to this off season Nuri sahin to them again for 8 mil i’m sick to my stomach. but now ashely fucking young for 20 mill that would be the worst fucking disaster, but i trust that Sir Alex as something up is sleve because he must now see after a second time in the finals that this midfield is not good enough, the most promising thing about this midfield is the up side of ando, but there are still options available such as Sihinji kagawa, Steven Defour, and the other two players always being talked about sneijder and modric, but if no one comes in i would be estatic if that means pogba, tunnicliffe, morrison getting a a crack at the first team.
@redarmt show us the facts u cunt! dont say shit like that and not back it up
20M for a player who never won a euro cup??? what happen to player valuation system nowadays…..i think FIFA should restrict a new rule regarding player valuation, if he ain’t playing for any euro competition(club level), the price should be reasonable for the market… Young is a good player but the price tag was painfully expensive….
@ nani4ever – Sir Alex will be sorting out the central midfield issue don’t you worry bout that mate. You can hardyy call Ashley Young mediocre, he has been one of the most consistent performers in the PL over the last 4/5 years. We all know Nani’s preference is to play on the right, so this should make you happy right?.
With regards to Moutinho, he is too lightweight, guess that shows why no big European team has taken the gamble, hence him staying in Portugal. Ozil wanted to go the Virus and obviously now there is Khedira and Altintop there, it would’ve always been Sahin’s first choice to go there.
Tunnicliffe, Pogba and Morrison might play in the Carling Cup, but can’t see them playing any other first-team football.
Ashley Young is NOT what we need!!!! and hes a bloody GOOOOOOOOOOOONER
*hardly
@ yosca – John O’Shea was a Liverpool fan when he was younger. Hasn’t done a bad job for us has he?.
@aenemy7 the transfer market isn’t a socialist system mate,i hear castro not doing much right now maybe see if he wants the job to sort everything out
large % of players don’t end up playing for their favourite club now we’re basing our transfer targets on if the player supported utd as a kid.lol
wish people would stop using players that go to spain as transfer targets missed,pet peeve of mine.utd cannot compete with the top spanish clubs in the market for several reasons,firstly check out how much both clubs pay their players fucking obsence,secondly the spanish taxation system favours spanish teams 25% tax compared to 50% in england and thirdly weather,unless the player is a die hard red going to pick spain over england everytime
@wayne
Thank You!!!
The buying club determine if the fee is right. If we want Young and Villa want 20 million for him, we either pay it, or we don’t. If United pay the money, then he’s worth the fee. Also, the rumors about Nani don’t ring true. We need to keep our best players, not sell them. Something about Nani on the right and Young on the left, seems exciting.
All the nani leaving he’s unhappy at United bollocks really pissed me off tbh, so typically english media, its actually funny they will go to any length to get a story he is so blatently happy at Utd so why try make a story out of literally nothing.
And oh yeah people if we sign young hes not going to be playing on the right what the fuck is wrong with some people, its like some of you just discovered Utd yesterday, Nani/Valencia right Young/Park left ok now that thats cleared up we move on.
@ Willie and Dre.FU – Amen to that!
Anyone think that Young can play the role Giggs is playing these days? Creative force in the centre of the park?
How’s this for a line-up:
De Gea
Rafael
Rio
Vida
Evra
Nani
De Rossi
Young
Valencia
Rooney
Hernandez/Berbatov
*salivates*
@BerbaGod
Thanks man
@kanchelskis
Genius mate. Ashley “Marlo Stanfield” Young. Tell you what if he is as effective as Marlo I’d definitely welcome him with open arms.
@ kanchelskis – Can’t see him playing that role at this moment in time, think his attacking instinct would get the better of him and he would be found out against the better teams.
With regards to your team selection – no Fletch or Carrick :O
@bobbycharlie1968
Haha. Exactly. Ice cold remorseless operator. Just what we need
@BerbaGod
Yeh, you’re probably right. Which is why if he were to me moulded to that role, he’d need an out-and-out terrier like De Rossi sat behind him.
And yeh, the absence of Fletch or Carrick is only given the ideal scenario of signing someone like De Rossi.
Next season team in my opinion hopefully:
4-4-1-1:
De Gea
Rafael/Fab
Ferdy/Smalling
Vidic/Evans maybe Vahrane if were after him
Evra/O’Shea
Nani/Valencia – Cameo for Morrison
Fletch/Carrick (doing the dogs work for sneijder lol)
Sneijder/Clev/Giggsy – Cameos for Tunni & Pogba
Young/Park/Welbeck
Wazza/Ando
Chicha/Berbs
We would literally be unstoppable.
Am i the only one that can already smell #20
@Dre.FU
To be honest, if Chelsea, Arsenal and City don’t do some big tings this summer (unlikely I know in the case of Chelsea and City), then I can smell no. 20 without us having to do anything in the transfer market other than tie up the new keeper.
@ kanchelskis – As good a player De Rossi is don’t think he’s what we need in the middle of the park at the moment. We need that creative spark, I’ve always liked Modric and alongside Fletch/Carrick think that could be pretty effective but who knows who the Messiah is thinking of..
Another question do you think Fabio has ousted Rafael and is now the number one right back?. Thought he had a pretty solid game in the CL final.
@Dre.FU – I’m guessing you don’t see Gibbo/Obertan/Macheda/Owen/Diouf in the team next year?.
I Think Manchester United Need to Prioritise their signing this summer & buy the most important ones first.
1st – 1 Goalie – De Gea
2nd -1 Midfielder – Modric (1st) , Sneijder (2nd)………….Nasri & Kagawa (step down signings)
3rd – 1 Youth Player – Varane, Rodwell & all the other fuckers Linked with us.
4th – 1 Winger – Young etc.
By The Way Go Vote for ROM !!!
&
Ignore Bill Knob, if No One replies to his b/s messages, he won’t get any satisfaction & will fuck off.
By Replying to this FuckFace you make him ejaculate over a response He purposely seeks.
@BerbaGod
If we’re getting Young, I don’t think we’ll get Modric too. Don’t get me wrong, Modric would be my first choice signing, but it looks like Spurs are going to play hardball over a transfer fee. I think fully-fit and fired-up Fletch plus Modric would be a fantastic CM partnership.
Yeh, Fabio had his head held firmly high after that game I thought. He and Rooney were the best players on our team. Heopfully their adaptability means that they can alternate at RB until Evra makes way, when Fabio will head over to the left, and the dream of the Brazilian Nevilles will be complete!
@BerbaGod could see evra being under pressure next year unless he gets his defensive game back,twins keep improving they’ll both be 1st choice fullbacks.
@Dre.FU
I presume you think Manchester United will buy 4 players?
- Varane (12), de gea (17), young(16), sneijder(30) will cost at minimum £75 mill according to the press.
@Dre.FU
Good team. I’d maybe also like to consider Sanchez (the next Ronaldo?) and Nasri (Evra & Ferdy’s picks)
@kanchelskis
I totally agree, but even with them spending and im not being arrogant but i seriously dont think their in the same league as Utd, i mean ”worst team in the history of the universe” and finished 9pts clear of both of them, competition? i think not, though chelsea will be up their im not threatened by them anymore.
we set the standards in the premier league, we break records every season teams strive to be like us,we’re the best were only going to get stronger from here and i look forward to next season. oh yeah mate we deffinatly need to buy we dont want to get stale like chelsea
No wonder every English lad thinks they’re the bollocks with price tags like this! Their egos are way ahead of their footballing ability. It all starts as kids where they have gobby parents or hangers on blowing smoke out of their arse, thats why only a handful of genuine talent comes through. Egos get opportunities, just look at the England squad now!
@ kanchelskis – I can see it happening, both Modric and Young coming along with De Gea – I’d be ecstatic with them three coming in. With Modric, all depends if he makes it clear he wants to move. I can see us getting him for £25-30m, Levy can try to break our balls as much as possible but once the player speaks out I can’t see ‘Arry wanting to keep someone that doesn’t want to be there.
@ wayne – Totally agree mate. Evra needs to step up to the plate BIG time.
@Clint-IamYourPapii
Yeah, i was going to say 3 but Vahrane is young and wouldn’t really cost a lot and theirs always room for potential at Utd so i thought why not add him, and according to the french press we’re keen on him and apparently going to sign him.
Balaji Sivaraman – I have said this plenty of times, young is has good or more effective than nani going forward, his stats are has good has nani, and much like valencia young does not mess about he whips those crosses with deadly effect and his positional sence is deadly. He easily chips in at most 11 or 12 goals, his assists are 14 to 16 a season and for someone who will cost at most 20 million including wages it is a bargain. He can play on the right, the left, and off the striker what a player to have. And he will inject more pace into the side, and for away games he will be crucial, for set pieces and free kicks
@redorded
thanks man, i think sanchez is out of reach to be honest, i would be happy if he signed as well reports from his agent were he was/is keen on a move to Utd, but now he would apparently like a move to barca and plus Udinese want 35-40 mil for him, Sanchez would be a luxury signing but i dont see it happening
Morning all true REDS
Balaji summed it up perfectly, great post…. I am also with Willie’s opinion on giving the lad a chance should he join..
@BerbaGod
shit lol for a moment i forgot about Gibbo/Obertan/Macheda/Owen/Diouf,
gibson: im not sure whether he will be here next season,
obertan: is hit a miss he was on fire for the reserves but with him being a left sided player and us maybe signing young thats pretty much put the nail in the coffin for him or maybe a loan deal might do him some good,
Macheda: again not sure italy done him no good berba cant even really get games anymore so what chance is their for kiko
owen: he knows hes a fringe player and thats not gonna change
diouf: again hit and miss in the same regards as kiko apart from cup games i dont see what part he will play at Utd next season
Scott, how about this?
http://www.united-latest.com/1/post/2011/06/ashley-young-drops-united-hint.html
kanchelskis – The theme tune to The Wire is performed by the Neville Brothers.
Seriously!
BerbaGod @
Your opinion regarding moutinho not being that good because he didn’t sign with a bigger club, seems flawed to me because he is a class player and would undoubtedly upgrade our midfield because he has everything a top class midfielder should have, so then sneijder wasn’t a quality midfielder in 09 when real let him go and the biggest myth to me is when people automatically deem a player as being light weight and not up to it because he as a small frame, wasn’t scholes light weight, and isn’t everyone new favorite modric light weight ( and might i ad a player i was touting for the longest wile and getting a lot of abuse over it) and last but not least sneijder is also not a big 6 ft player. In my honest opinion this is the biggest flaw in the english game and the england team to be precise, too much emphasis is placed on speed, size, power and not enough on the most important attribute technique
~Unfortunately, putting on a England automatically put the players price bracket to around 20m, is what they want! Can united pay 20m? Yes…. but other depts will suffer.
Restart the the green & gold campaign, Get ride of the parasites, then 20m wouldn’t be problem.
Glazers out.
Yo!
It’s Omar!
Don’t forget that you have to adjust for the Man United inflation fee. Take whatever a fair price is and add 5-10m
“Sanchez doesn’t offer us anything we already don’t have, ”
PMFSL
you clearly know nothing about the guy then…..
@bigphil2003
Yeah that pisses me off, i mean 25 million for rodwell do me a favour? 20 million for henderson? fucking henderson. And people wonder why clubs go abroad are you telling me rodwell/henderson are valued the same as modric come on.
@nani4ever
Agree technique is overlooked completely. Problem is the scouting network fails around Britain miserably. There is talent out there believe me, like i say these scouts just look for the wrong attributes and character traits you look for in young talent!
Willie
Have you confirmed them reports yet?
Cedars – Still digging for more information!
It more to do with the rules of have “X mount” of English players in the squad, this is what Platini plan was all about.
Willie – I am sure you will have your proof pretty soon! hahahaha
@Dre.FU= Forever United
Spot on….. there’s something wrong with the player valuation system of a player somehow, it’s getting ridiculous from time to time…
@ nani4ever -heres how I see it – As long as Joao Moutinho plays in the Portuguese league, people will not categorise him as a ‘class’ player (whatever that means?) maybe a good player but while he plays in Portugal people will never be able to judge him properly. He has been around for quite a while now and although he is still relatively young, you have to admit he’s hardly set the world alight. I can remember he was on the verge of a move to Everton a few years ago but for some reason or another the deal collapsed, I can’t remember why exactly. He has potential yes and maybe a decent European team needs to take a gamble but there has to be a reason why no-one has so far. I’d put him in the same bracket at Ricardo Quaresma, good talent but just never made it.
My definition of “lightweight” is NOT about height and weight. Like you saidPaul Scholes is small and nobody ever said he was lightweight. Maradona was a midget and you could never say he was lightweight. Didier Deschamps was tiny and he was a midfield heavyweight. You could be 198cm and 100kg and still be lightweight.
When using the term “lightweight” in football it is much more about being able to handle yourself physically against players of all shapes and sizes, and dealing with the pace and intensity of the game. Lionel Messi is small yet seems to be anything but “lightweight”.
Being “lightweight” in football is much a mental thing as a physical, measured, thing. An example for you, Pascal Cygan, 6ft 4 and he was complete and utter lightweight.
People serioulsy think that because of debts we are not buying top players.The answer is No we don’t buy because we don’t need to.
Real madrid and man shityy themselves don’t know how many players they have.
BArcelona re the biggest fool in transfer department/They have quality upfront and in the middle but they are still buying players like sanchez and fabregas .
We have quality players coming through our ranks.Out of morrison,pogba and tunni I am very much confident that atleast 2 will be stars in 2 years.Who knows if our luck is good we may get 4 or 5 quality players from the current youth setup and they may become our regular players for us in few years time.So all united doubters stop doubting over our future and all United haters (Special mention to you cunt bill knob)keep hating us because your hatred makes us stronger.
BELIEVE
@willrednut
Really? Which series?
Cedars – I’ve got the shovel in my hands as I speak…. digging
@bill bob aka karl childers…what the fuck are you on about now,you keep pulling the same strings over and over again,players infidelity,glaziers out,the debt….yawn,yawn and oh fucking yawn and now you want to enter into a discussion about english player quotas,your beyond laughable mate.
Getting to where Barca is will take time, even if we buy some midfield maestro. We’ll need to integrate the new signings. This is a crucial season, the all talked about “phasing off” of Scholes and Giggs, though Giggs still has a year more. Young is the answer? Not really, but he could bring us something, its just that I’m not that impressed…yet. It was the case with Valencia too when he was at Wigan. I liked him then, thought he was a good crosser and when he came I was pleased but now that has changed to elation. He’s indispensable for us now, an asset. So for all we know Young could follow that line as well. We’ll have to give him time, and I’m sure he’ll do even better than he’s done so far-its big boots to fill at OT.
Ash YES.
It cunts like you, who are walking around with blinkers thats keeping the Glazers twats here.
wakeup, United are getting bleed dry.
@aenemy7
i know mate and people wonder why, their aren’t ”top english talent” at top teams in england because any time you try and get any where near them, bam!! their suddenly worth 20-25 mil, i no that the clubs have the right to demand as much as they want knowing that they can milk big teams of their money but seriously you have to draw a line somewhere, thats why i hope that tunni and morrison become the potential superstars they look like they can be. we dont need to buy other english kids when we’ve got 2 english superstars in our academy
It’s impossible to say whether Young will be a hit for us or not. I think what most of us are puizzled about, is the fact that we might spend 20 million on a player that (at the moment) doesn’t look like taking Valencia or Nani’s, even though the priority should be in buying a CM.
This might be mad, but I think N’Zogbia would represent better value, plus I think he’s a hell of a better player than Young. Only problem is, he kinda has that French sulky attitude like Anelka, which could potentially cause more problems than it’s worth.
@Bill CUNT knob
Didn’t you say the same thing when glazers took over in 2005.According to your prediction united should have been finished by 2008.But wait we won double that time.
You are not only a cunt but a human being without any brain.Manchester united can never die you idiot.I am not saying as a united supporter but as a general point of view.Manchester united is a global brand.It earns millions of money every year.And The revenues will increase every year.
Clubs like real madrid,Manchester united ,Barcelona have global brand and will always earn income.
I know glazers are not good for the club but even with or without glazers manchester united will always be a top club.
@kanchelskis
Ha ye he does look like marlo stanfield. lets just hope chris and snoop arent his agents or david gill will be borded up in a vacant
@Ash
Fuck the knob mate. He us not even a UNited fan.
nzogbia, is hot at 9m for central mid. And i do think he will be good and improve the team, he has the ability to beat a man in midfield, the comparisons go back to barca, there midfielders all possess that ability.
*is*
@bill bob for gods sake give it a rest,you have the same negative talking points on every thread.one dimensional diatribe over and over and over,do yourself a favour and leave it out,boring bastard
Just read on manutd.com
Rio Ferdinand has just tweeted to restore his comments on Samir Nasri to their true context. The Reds defender clarifies: “My quotes about Samir Nasri are not recent (not that the papers let u know this. I spoke about him waaaaay before any speculation started.”
Typical bullshit from the rags
Wayne, i just get pissed off…. simply because you see twats thinking everything fine & dandy because United won the 19th, If united had lost the league this season…. Glazers would of been blamed FACT.
You see twats (glory hunting mongs) walking around not seeing the long term damage that happening.
Agreed but even with the signing of Ashley Young, Sir Alex should make Luka Modric a must.
I don’t understand why we’re buying someone who plays wide and/or in the hole. I had this debate yesterday with willie and a couple of others but I still don’t get it. I’m not big on transfers anyway, I’d rather see our own young guys come through. But I recognize it will probably need to be a combination of both — but buying wingers and strikers? All I can say is that I sincerely hope SAF has some plans for the midfield as well. And maybe A. Young is a part of that? Who knows.
That said, if the boss wants him, I’ll back him.
On the fee, it may be that the boss is offering a big fat juicy simply to ensure Villa will accept it and not shop around, and thus reduce the risk of a bidding war.
Forget Young, bring back Luke Chadwick.
@Bill Knob
Yeah, just like they were blamed in 09-10 hey? Idiot. I want to see the Glazers gone as soon as possible, but you are not one to lecture United fans on how they should feel about them. I hear Piers is waiting for your oral skills again. Off you go…
BerbaGod @ 12:26: “I can see it happening, both Modric and Young coming along with De Gea – I’d be ecstatic with them three coming in”
Yeah, sure, but that’s really just a confirmation of WayneBoy’s suggestion that UTD lack “ambition”. Modric and Young will, no doubt, help UTD hold onto the EPL for # 20 but I happen to think that they can win it without these two. Modric can play the “GiggsRole” – on the pitch, at least ! – and I just can’t see Ashley Young being much of an improvement over Nani/Valencia.
The real issue with regard to “ambition” has to do with beating the best – not being second-best. These two wouldn’t have make a scintilla of difference last weekend against Barcelona.
Cyril
Bloody genius ! Had me laughing my head off that! hahaha
denton davey – which player would have made a difference in that match? None! As hard as it sounds. No team in the world would have beaten them in the final.
just stop the fucking obsession with barcelona.
Giggsy’s Lawyer @ 13:35: “N’Zogbia would represent better value, plus I think he’s a hell of a better player than Young.”
THAT, I agree with. He’s left-footed and fast so he’d provide “real difference” to the shape of the attack.
Bill knob the fucking dick head bob…. You seriously want us to believe that you support United now??
hahahahahahaha…………. What an idiot
@bill bob
i dont think you know anything
i fucking hate the glazers
but dont think they are blocking transfer fees
our club record signing was under there reign berbatov
also we bought nani ando hargreaves and tevez on loan in one summer
also had 30 million bids turned down for benzema and villa
do we really need him at £20 million? am not convinced……..seen him play once for villa and all he did was fall over……….i think we need to get snieder first then see what we can add around him, come on fergie lets get the dutch master
Why spend 20m for young when we can put in another 10m and get mordic,who i feel is a better player than young by some distance.Mordic/Defour and Sneijder are two PLAYER I think would suit our playing style.And wont Nani leavE if WE GET YOUNG?
@bill bob but you just re hash the same lines on every thread,i haven’t seen on positive post from you and its always the same talking points,doesn’t matter what topic always ends up with you calling giggs a twat,glaziers out,the debt thats it,if you are a utd fan need to change the record,if you are a troll then the wind up has been played out,seriously mate you’ve become very repetitious and dull.
”Bill knob the fucking dick head bob”
LOOOOOOL!!!!! Cedars you joker
For me any player we buy this summer has to be better than what we already have but I can’t say that Young is and for 20m we are being ripped off yet again, what has happened to negotiations at the club? We’ve paid well over the odds for Ando, Hargreaves, Carrick and Berbatov, its shite.
Maybe this does mean that Nani is off but I doubt it and hope we keep hold of him but please, PLEASE get some real quality in – not more frigging squad players of which we already have too many, we have to get a class CM or two in.
Forget history, forget tradition, forget values, forget what every thing our club stands for. Lets just be obsessed with beating Barca……..
Seriously some posts here of the sorts make me sick to the core…..
Fucking fickle pricks
why the fuck should nani be off?
young is playing on the left while nani is playing on the right.
Giggs won’t play as winger anymore unless someone is injured.
We’ll see when we have to sell a “golden boot” player to fund other buys.
Dre.FU= Forever United
Pleasure buddy!
@drooney
mate nani wont leave we need a winger definetely park doesnnt play all the games giggs is no longer a winger and cleverley will be used in the middle mostly
so it should be nani valencia and young
@badger
mate thats the direction in which football is going
almost everyone is overpriced and its going to get worse
so if we want someone desperately then we have to pay it
some on this blog should remember how shite we were on the left while valencia was injured and park at the asian cup and injured afterwards.
We are as bad as Chelsea for scandals, Im so ashamed of giggs if that was terry it would have been a hot topic but since its giggs and a united player we have seemed to have just totally blanked it
@bill bob
shut your fucking mouth or put your fathers dick in it
Not that long ago Michael Knighton (almost)bought the entire Manchester United Football club for £20 million and now that is the price of an “OK” winger.
He plays the way we play, but I still think £10 million would be a fair price.
John, the worm is only just starting to craw out of the bag.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a323550/ryan-giggs-sister-in-law-reveals-third-affair.html?rss
@Ash
Right on mate. I suspect a couple of internal surprises
If United are willing to pay 20 mil for young, this could also means that Sir Alex indeed has some funds to spend and we can expect one or two more players. The transfer market has just started and i think all the negotiations is not as simple as in football manager game, even at the hardest difficulty. Sir Alex might already has a few names in his mind and we never know who until it happens. Although I don’t like Glazer family, I don’t think they are stupid enough not to know that we need big transfer this summer after Scolesy, VDS, Hargo etc exit. I am quite confident that we will see at least one big name at OT next August or perhaps earlier than that…
Zelh @ 13:55: “which player would have made a difference in that match? None! As hard as it sounds. No team in the world would have beaten them in the final.”
That’s just after-the-fact revisionism. at half-time UTD were level – it may not have represented the balance of play but that was the score. In the second half, ThreeLungPark was down to one lung; Ryan Giggs – let’s forget the knighthood, eh ? – was ineffective and Antonio Valencia was unable to influence play by holding the ball.
At that point, SAF lost his nerve – he could have (should have ?) brought on DarrenFletcherinho to give the midfield some bite and (to answer your question) if UTD had a box-to=box ball-winning midfielder like, say, Daniele De Rossi, then there might have been some resistance. The second half of that game was, quite frankly, embarrassing – Barcelona are a terrific team and Leo Messi is a fantastic player but they were given too much room and that was because SAF caught himself between a rock and a hard place in his team selections. TheLads were given a “good hiding” but SAF was also taught a lesson, again.
I know that DarrenFletcherinho was still recovering from the mystery virus but he did play all 90 minutes against Blackpool and would have been able to provide half-a-match of energy, bite, and resistance.
I don’t disagree with you that bringing on someone like Ashley Young would not have helped although Nani did more in his 15-minute cameo than Antonio Valencia did in 75 minutes; Luka Modric is not the kind of midfielder that UTD need for the ultimate challenge.
The way I see it, UTD have a two-front war to fight – domestically, they can win the 20th EPL with the team that’s already in place BUT against the top CL competition that won’t work. Partly it’s a matter of bringing in guys who can address the obvious inadequacies that were evident at Wembley but, partly, it’s about playing a rather different system to cope with Barcelona’s pass-and-move style. Yeah, I understand that Barcelona might not get to next year’s final – or even the one after that – BUT Barcelona are the ultimate challenge (forget the bullshit from Madrid, we could have coped with them.) That’s what my comment about “ambition” was meant to highlight.
bill bob & john
Being very humane and with a big heart I will gladly take you both under my wings for treatment… First of all I would have to beat the fuck out of you both and break every bone, sort of like restarting your PC when you download a new software…
Then I would get my nurse injecting you with stuff you never believed existed……
Finally, and this is the best part you would wake up in Afghanistan surrounded be horny Taliban militants who have not had sex in ages…….
@ denton davey – So you are suggesting we sign De Rossi and who else?
Cedar, your a real “internet warrior” aren’t you, hard as shit & twice as thick
@john
Unless Giggs fucked around with a teammate’s (for club and country) wife, this topic is personal and has no business here. But if you want to, you can exchange e mails with Bill Knob and you can gossip about Ryan, Imogen and the rest all you want.
@sachu
Ignore that rat.He is fit for nothing.You know guys we should stop entertaining bill bob.
Again people are wrong about young.Young and modric are two different style of players.Sir alex knows our priority lies in buying a central mid fielder and not a winger so Why would he spend 30 odd millions on sanchez.And to be frank young would join united at 15-17 millions.This 20 millios is utter bollox.
Young’s transfer would not be end to our transfer season.Sir alex will buy atleast one more quality player like sneijder or modric.I really hope the three players we buy are
de gea
Young
Sneijder or modric
And add to that we may sign players like varane and some young surprise players.
I also think the japanese kid kagawa would be a good buy.He could replace our park.Will be useful both as a player and also as a marketing tool.I don’t think he will sign this season but maybe next season.Remember he is just 22. So maybe a star for us.
costas
thank for giving me permission.
3rd affair? Now we know what Bill Knob’s mother was up to and where all his hatred for Giggs comes from..
bill knob
I feel insulted, I was actually being serious… Offer still stands mind you
Giggsy’s Lawyer @
N’Zogbia is a good call much better player to young, better dribbler, left footed and also can take a free kick with half of youngs value. Is only down side is he may have a bit of an attitude
Let me start some sort of a poll here from the regulars that know me…….
Guys
Did I not make bill bob and john a decent offer?
denton davey – Yes Valencia was terrible, but does that make him a poor player cause of one game? Where was Ronaldo in 2009? Is he poor now? Valencia came back from a broken ankle.
And Nani isn’t the same player on the left. Even the most deluded person should notice that.
With Hargo, Scholes, Neville and maybe Brown leaving we have to increase our homegrown number so this is a good transfer.
Cedar,
if want to threaten people over the Internet, that only makes you look the prick you are…. please continue.
Go “keyboard warrior”
@Cedars
It looked like a decent offer to me mate. The knob doesn’t look like he’s gotten any in ages…
BerbaGod @ 14:25: “So you are suggesting we sign De Rossi and who else?”
I’ve been banging on about trying to sign Daniele De Rossi for about 18 months – most of the regulars on this site are sick-and-tired of hearing that from me.
Who else ? Well, for starters, I’d like to get that Brazilian kid Sandro from Spurs rather than Modric. And, if SAF thinks that some sort of attacking player is needed then I’d want a guy who was genuinely left-footed – that’s why Charles N’Zogbia ticks the boxes for me.
Looking further afield, Borussia Dortmund have four players who are very exciting – the 18 year old Mario Gotze is a superstar-in-waiting; the left-sided Japanese player, Shinji Kagawa, was just terrific for them; their defensive midfielder, Matts Hummel, would look very good in red; and Nevon Subotic, the Serbian/American central defender ain’t shabby either. If I was given the choice of one, I’d go for Hummel since he addresses what I consider UTD’s major need; if I was taking the “best available player” then I’d go for Gotze for whom the sky is the limit.
Let’s face it, though, this is just “fantasy” footie – I’m not expert just a guy with a computer AND opinions.
If liverpool were trying to sign him he’d cost about 13 mill, but because its us we’ll probably end up paying around 17 mill. When in reality he should be going for about 10/11 mill.
Decent player and i’ll support him like I do the rest of the lads if he joins, but im hardly excited for his arrival, dont really see what he brings, but Fergie knows best so lets wait and see.
De Rossi talk again, eh? We don’t need him and he’s not getting any younger either. With Hargreaves gone, I wonder if Tunnicliffe or Pogba will be given a chance next season? All the talk about Modric and Sneijder, might be a smokescreen for the real target. A younger player, I would assume? Levy will be a tough nut to crack and Sneijders wages will be the biggest stumbling block in any deal.
denton – Hummels is a central defender, but is able to play in defensive mdfield. according to him he rather plays in the defense.
De Rossi would be great but isn’t keen to leave roma.
You talk about players who would help us beat barcelona and you mention N’Zogbia. Where would he have helped us?
Sandro over Modric?
we are lacking creativity mate and modric would help us a lot in midfield now after scholes retired.
knob head
First of all its Cedars not cedar… We do have more than one…. Bet my life you have no clue what I am talking about…
Second of all, I was genuine with my offer, you see people with severe cases like yours require severe treatment ……
Let me know if you wanna proceed
Zelh @ 14:34: “Yes Valencia was terrible, but does that make him a poor player cause of one game?”
I wasn’t saying that; what I was saying today – and yesterday, too, if my memory serves – is that Antonio Valencia was “found out”. He is a limited player because his inability to use his left foot makes him relatively easy to play against. At the very top level, he just wasn’t good enough. In contrast, Nani’s bag-of-tricks was much more dangerous to Barcelona.
This one-sidedness isn’t a new issue; it’s been a problem that almost everyone has identified. What happened at Wembley is that Barcelona’s left back – Eric Abidal – “went to school” and applied what is well known – force Valencia onto his left foot, ALL THE TIME and he was rendered almost useless. The big surprise wanot that Barcelona employed that strategy but that Ca$hley ‘ole didn’t do that – Valencia tormented the “world’s best left back” in both legs of the CL quarter final.
Costas
I know mate, just when you think you are trying to be kind, thats the sort of pay back you get….
denton davey – What happened to banging the drum for Schweinsteiger? Bang way!
Just been speaking to Spurs fan, he believes Modric will be wearing a United shirt, although he doesn’t believes Berba will go the other way because of his wages….. so the deal hangs on Berba being sold first to fund Modric transfer.
Zelh @ 14:46: “Sandro over Modric? we are lacking creativity mate and modric would help us a lot in midfield now after scholes retired.”
Sure, it would be great to have a 25 year old Ginger Ninja BUT in that game against Barcelona the issue wasn’t “creativity” but the fact that UTD had 34% possession and, essentially, conceded the midfield to Barcelona.
Hummel has played as a defensive midfielder and that’s why I identified him as “someone else”.
I’m not sure about De Rossi and Roma – and neither is anyone else. He’d grown stale there but there is new ownership and probably new money and new players so he might just feel re-charged. Still, he’s the proto-type of the player I’d want to fortify UTD’s midfield for “the ultimate challenge”. Over the past five years, he’s been the best in the world at playing the game in the Keane-oStyle.
@ Cedars, perhaps you could add a picture of Ryan Giggs for them to look at while they are getting acquainted with local Afghan customs?
Cedars – You keyboard warrior, you!
WillieRedNut @ 14:51: “Schweini” ?
Sure, he’d be great but I was asked about who would have made UTD more capable of standing up to Barcelona. No question, though, that De Rossi and Schweini would be massive, massive, massive additions to the team. Having those two would give us a chance – and it was pretty obvious that we sure didn’t have much of a chance with the team SAF put out there at Wembley.
Cedar is getting Angry? should i be shaking in my boots? The “keyboard warrior” out for me.
Hehehe….
@Cedars
Yeah mate. No class whatsoever.
Denton – that’s correct and that’s why I would’ve preferred Nani in the final but Valencia deserved his spot despite his limited skills. Valenica tormented Cashley in every game they played against eachother.
But how many both footed are out there and for the taking and would improve our squad. Sanchez? looks barca-bound. Nasri? Don’t really want him at OT even if he has the abilities.
Quite a short list imo.
the only thing that’ll help bill bob is a lobotomy,sad thing is he doesn’t realise how pathetic he is.
Cyril Sneer
lol
I like your way of thinking, perhaps you could join my team as an advisor of sorts?
Denton – But i agree about De Rossi. Looks like he needs a change, but that will depend on the new owners.
20 m The price is hike 15 m is ok
Cedars? Get your racket out mate and give him a proper spanking!
Go Cedars!!
Zelh – I’m actually not especially concerned about the “creativity” of the attack. What’s concerning is that UTD’s midfield was found out – not just against Barcelona at Wembley but also over-and-over-again in away matches in the EPL.
Interestingly, when SAF went for his “seven defenders” system against TheArse in the FACup then TheLads held their own – even with much-derided Darron Gibson and John O’Shea on the pitch. The contribution from the Da Silva twins in that match really gives one pause to think – and wonder….. These kids are terrific footie players – I think that pigeon-holing them as “right back” or “left back” does a disservice to their talents and the versatility they can provide. It’s up to the manager to find a way to get them into positions that benefit the team.
Bill Knob’s act is getting so boring now. I am starting to miss Mr Mancini. Or filthcolumnblue.
@Zelh … “just stop the fucking obsession with Barcelona”. Mate, one of the reasons why some of us have been crapping on about Barcelona so much is because the boss himself has announced that catching up and overtaking them is his priority. I can’t speak for Denton — he and I disagree on too much. Personally, I’d just as soon focus on the PL. Eventually, Barcelona will run out of steam, grow old or disappear into a financial black hole. But the thing is, since the boss has raised the issue and set the target, that has some of us concerned. Well me, anyway. It seems like an exercise that could cost a lot of money and still end up a total waste — because there’s no guarantee either us or them will make the final each year anyway. Just as there’s also no guarantee that a plan and a team capable of beating Barcelona would also do well in the PL (I for one am not convinced that Barcelona themselves would do all that well if they had to play in the PL every week).
In the meantime, it is sort of interesting watching the boss’s transfer targets. If the boss says (a) “Our aim is to dethrone Barcelona”, and (b) “We’re going to buy Ashely Young and Nasri”, then we’ve every right to ask whether Young and Nasri are the sort of players who, based on what we’ve seen, are capable of beating Barca. Maybe they are, maybe they’re not. Alternatively, we can ask whether these purchases perhaps mean the boss isn’t really so serious about tackling Barcelona after all, or is not that obsessed about it.
I will support any player the club brings in, any player who wears our shirt. But a lot of this banter is really no more than people like me trying to figure out just what the boss is up to. Just out of curiosity.
Zelh – Diego Capel?
@ Cedars – I’ll be happy to help out though I’m sure Bill is probably a very nice person at heart but is just a little misguided. clearly he recognises greatness (he is naturally drawn to a United blog) and obviously just feels a need to be part of it. Obviously a bit of re-education is needed but after that I’m sure he will make a very fine Red.
young deal done
Knob head
Again its Cedars not cedar, there are more than one… Looks like besides your treatment we need us a couple of hours of nursery classes…. Before we bash you (i.e. step one) we need to teach you how to pee… Ah well thankfully we have skillful people here to take care of that………..
Register now and that flight to Afghanistan will be for free
Denton … “The contribution from the Da Silva twins in that match really gives one pause to think – and wonder….. These kids are terrific footie players – I think that pigeon-holing them as “right back” or “left back” does a disservice to their talents and the versatility they can provide. It’s up to the manager to find a way to get them into positions that benefit the team.”
I’ve been thinking about that too. I am wondering if maybe our future lies more along the lines of the original Total Football concept — I don’t mean tikka-takka, which is something that annoys me and wasn’t the main thrust of Total Football anyway, I mean the idea that players should be versatile within a match; that whether you’re a defender or an attacker depends not on your nominal position or the number on your back, but whether your team has the ball or not, and that players should interchange depending on the flow of the match at any given moment. In other words, that positions and formations become much more fluid, which is what I think Total Football was originally about. If it can be done, it would serve us well in all types of match. But it does call for players with special types of skills — and that might indeed help to explain the interest in players like Young, who seem to have more than one string to their bow. Just thinking aloud.
Shinji Kagawa
This boy’s technique and touch are impeccable, did i mention that he is also two footed not mention the intelligent positioning that he takes up, just fantastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByKBcZ4R-g&feature=related
StatesideAussie – I know Ferguson said it himself but do we have to question every move by him now? We don’t have any clue which plan he formed in his head. No one knows what the big picture will look like.
But it was predictable that we won’t splash the cash on every player the fans want.
Imo Young is a great addition to our squad. increases the homegrown number, can play on the left where we had lots of problems, really good at dead balls and always good for a goal or an assist.
Denton – Our central midfield needs new blood. We lack creativity and steel in midfield. Our midfield was outplayed in almost every away game. De Rossi would be a massive signing but can’t see it happen.
Schweinsteiger would cost around 40-50 million after signing the new contract.
StatesideAussie – That’s why he gets paid the big money and we don’t! Your club very rarely buys the players, the fans would like to see signed. It’s not stellar names, but the right type of player. Fergie talked about challenging Barcelona, but I wouldn’t want the club to take their eye off the ball domestically. IMO, we have been combining the two fronts, with decent success, but just our misfortune to play Barcelona in their pomp.
@ denton davey – I like De Rossi but compared with Fletch, I don’t see what different options he gives us.
Sandro is a quality player, can definitely see him making it for a top European club in years to come. Rumours I’ve heard are Barca are interested in him. Thing with Modric is he is one of the most talented and influential players to grace the Premier League. In an era when physique often gets the vote over panache, Modric has emerged as the exception to the rule. He can make goals and he can score goals. He is rarely shifted off the ball. He’s imaginative and astute with his distribution. And he weighs in with his share of goals. He is always ready to receive the ball and never hides. Exactly what we need IMO.
N’Zogbia is undoubltedly talented but his sulking and attitude problem would not go down well with Sir Alex plus think he wants regular first team football, which I don’t think we could give him.
Dortmund have got some very good young players coming through – Hummels, Subotic, Goetze, Kagawa are all potentially excellent players. From what I’ve seen Sahin was pretty good too and the price the Virus got him for was a bargain, its obvious Ozil, Khedira etc talked him into going there though. Goetze does look special though, I heard him being referred to as a ‘dynamo’ and undoubtedly he’s one of the best talents in Europe. I wonder how much he’s worth?.
Red army – Source?
@ DENTON D
I have seen you so many times posting about De Rossi that I am curious whether you have been watching Roma last season and esp his performances, yet a time when Italian journos are busy in making his career an example of how a promising career has gone to dogs and they are so right as he was shit in as many as atleast 4 to 5 games which I watched and according to reports he has been like that since a long time
I wonder how much you are aware of this
and Willie, Schweinsteiger bandwagon
he had a pretty average season, I accept he was outstanding for Germany but not as effective as that for Bayern after that Dutch thug left for Milan on free and as indicated he needs a DCM beside him like Khedira played in WC2010, moreover his basic position is on the wings
so keeping all these things in mind, I’m not that interested for these players
and one more thing that Nuri Sahin, who RM bought for around 10 million, has outplayed Schweinsteiger on more than one occasion last season
ancha – Sahin was brilliant for Dortmund last season. A bargin, indeed. Wrong move for him though.
nani4ever
that trio of Nuri Sahin, Shinji kagawa, Mario Goetze along with Sven Bender have been sensational for Borussa Dortmund , RM already taken one of the three, and rumour is that SAF is keen on bringing Mario Goetze who is Germany’s best young talent but Borussa are not willing to sell him at any cost and they aren’t in any financial trouble, so I don’t think they will sell their best young talent, the remaining one left is Shinji and I feel it would be big gamble to take as he is injured and out for a long time
Zelh … do we have to question every move by him now? Well, there’s “questioning” and then there’s “questioning”. I am not “doubting”, just trying to understand. But yeah sure, one option would be for everyone to just shut the fuck up, sit here, twiddle our thumbs and not discuss transfers at all. Come to think of it, maybe that’s not such a bad idea lol.
Willie … sure mate, that’s why he gets the money and we don’t. But then, we could post that comment in response to any discussion whatsoever about transfers, like I said to Zelh. I mean, it’s not like I’m the only one who’s talking about transfers. In fact, I’ve commented a damn sight less than some folk and I’m certainly not one of those who pushes this name or that name. I think the only “name” that I’ve consistently said I’d like to see at OT is De Rossi and, failing that, Modric might be a good choice. But I’m not holding my breath. My primary interest is simply to try to understand what sort of team SAF has in mind for the next few years, starting with next season, and what that might mean to the way we play. It’s not meant to be judgmental. It’s just genuine curiosity. I do agree that getting the right players is more important than simply buying stellar names, and I certainly agree the PL has to remain our number one focus. Our recent European record is nothing to be ashamed of — we should be proud of it.
Willie
hello mate, how are you
That was pure RM legacy, Jose Mourinho, climate, tax , all these factors are major reasons for players like Angel Di Maria, Nuri Sahin to take that option over Manchester United, even though we have the legacy and the best manager on the planet, for some players it still tips the balance to that side can’t blame them
@denton, The biggest issue I see is that, Are we going to question every buy we make by comparing the team with that player against this current Barcelona setup?
In my opinion, Sir Alex does not buy players solely with the intention of beating Barcelona. That would be one of the most counter-productive activities in the history of football. I don’t think someone of his experience in management will do that. That is like saying Steve Jobs plans his future Apple products solely based on how they will overthrow Microsoft’s equivalent competitive products. As I said, very much counterproductive. Sir Alex buys players on their merits to our squad and us challenging on all four fronts.
If during one of those quests AKA the CL, if we end up facing Barcelona, then only will Sir Alex think about how the players at his disposal can effectively tackle the Barca setup. No matter how good Barcelona are, there is no guarantee that they cannot be knocked out in any of the stages by their opposition teams. And the same holds true for us also.
By that measure, I’ve already had my say on both Young and Modric, they will add value to our current squads immensely.
I don’t really see the need for a ball-winner. A fully fit Fletcher does an equivalent job of what a De Rossi will do. The problem being what happens if Fletcher is injured, then we are left with a huge gaping hole. Anderson, much like Nani, needs a major attitude change if he wants to perform in all the games for us. If that doesn’t happen, we do need a ball-winner. The problem with signing someone like De Rossi (not that it is going to happen) is that it immediately shuns Fletcher to a bench role which none of us wants.
We do need someone to replace Scholes ASAP. That someone so far based on the rumors looks to be Modric. I am quite a big fan of Modric for some reason. My first choice would be Sneijder but he is not available and his wage demands plus transfer cost is too much and is against our general wage policies. Also, Sneijder’s role is more similar to the new Rooney than being an out-and-out central mid-fielder.
I personally don’t understand all the animosity towards Modric. Young, I can understand slightly, but Modric has proved to be a class player both at the club and country level. He creates chances for fun at a much below-par Spurs setup. He is not afraid to put his foot in. His vision is exemplary and he does have a shot in him if that is also required (Not as good as No. 18 though). He has performed at an exceptional level with two below-par teams for Spurs and Croatia. I would take him without a heartbeat.
We should also not discount Steven Defour from Standard Liege in the equation. Sir Alex has been following him for a few years now and his contract expires in 2012. I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the rabbit out of the hat that Sir Alex has planned for 2011.
Why Young when there is this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG_CiVDCqV8
Far FAR better
StatesideAussie – Trying to understand the thinking of Fergie? That would cause me, you and everyone a massive headache lol. Like trying to guess the line up every week. Just ask Costas lol. As I said though, whoever comes in, I’m sure the boss has thought about it, to the point of madness! Every player United sign is a gamble. I think line up for the community shield, will be very interesting.
it hurts to read all this trash about our legend Giggs
Sounds like we should buy Dortmund’s scouts.
Ancha … yeah, De Rossi’s performances have slipped recently. The question, though, is why? I mean, the guy obviously has talent — he’s proved that many times. So assuming he doesn’t have some underlying injury, what else could cause his form to drop? I don’t know any more than you do. Maybe he’s just gone stale where he is. It happens. Maybe he doesn’t get along with the coach. That happens too. Maybe he’s never gotten over the murder of his father-in-law — it’s a few years ago now, but something like that can easily sour one’s whole outlook. The real thing, which we don’t know, is whether his drive has gone for good or not. That’s the risk. But there’s always risk — there really is no such thing as a risk-free transfer.
We sold Forlan for £2m??
You have to wonder where Giggsy gets his energy from – First team football, Chanpions League FA cup
daily training and he STILL has enough left over to be shagging at least three different bids LOL
Willie , no worries mate. Anyway, I’ve just about had a belly-full of the transfer window. I actually didn’t plan to come on here at all until the pre-season games started. But I did. Well, now I’ve had enough (no offense, and I’m not “taking my marbles home” and refusing to play lol). Just had enough. Anyway, I’m off to Australia at the end of the week and got heaps of shit to do before I leave. I may drop in again occasionally before the preseason, especially if there’s any hard news on actual transfers in or out. But otherwise, I’ll see you guys later — when there’s actually some football to discuss. Cheers lads!
2003: Eric Djemba-Djemba, 22, Nantes to Manchester United – £3.5 million
2005: Eric Djemba-Djemba, 24, Manchester United to Aston Villa – £0.3 million
2004: Michael Carrick, 22, West Ham United to Tottenham Hotspur – £2.75 million
2006: Michael Carrick, 24, Tottenham Hotspur to Manchester United – £18 million
Ouch!
2008: Mesut Özil, 19, Schalke 04 to Werder Bremen – £3.5 million
@ROMland a cut and past for me, have not had time to read the posts I will in like 6 hours. Till then.
Chelski dropped 75 million pounds in the winter window, Roman on a rampage he will spend 75-100 again this window. Then there are the Sheiks in baby blue. Liverpool will spend wise and large, this fucking Henry is bright makes winning a way of life with the Red Sox and his racing teams and so on. Kronski for the Goomers is smart as well he will spend but not as big as Henry. Then there is the Bank of Spain I mean Real. And Barca prints notes as well it seems. They tossed like 35 million away on Ibra, buy Villa, Alves, Henry ECT ECT ECT…
This year Man Utd must match their ambitions with cash 75-85 million then the next 3 to 4 years average 25 million a year to maintain good business practice with the youth development, wow look the fuck out world.
@ Stateside Aussie – À bientôt Monsieur – Look forward to when you are back on RoM mate.
As far as I’m concerned, United need to approach the season with the mentality that they DO NOT have Scholes, Neville AND Giggs. We have to begin the transition away from the Fledglings and start a new era with an “old core” of Rooney, Fletcher and Vidic and a “young core” of Hernandez, Smalling and the twins.
Giggsy should be thought of as a luxury.
Barca out front on Sanchez. Wonder if they need another right footed player? Maybe just the best players. Then maybe Cese. ? why they have Xavi. See how stupid ass that sounds. I’m all for a fiscal plan and build through youth. Sometimes when running with the big dog’s you have to buy to keep a guy from someone else, we and the Club talk about worlds biggest club and revenue and the most support. TIME TO BELLY UP TO THE BAR AND BUY 2 OF THESE 3 MODRIC, SNEIJDER AND SANCHEZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can’t see De Rossi or Schwein ever joining us. Can’t remember the last time Fergie bought an Italian, a Spanish or a German established outfield player. We usually go for very young prospects from these countries.
Roman will try to buy both Sneijder and Modric just so Man Utd can not get one of them.
http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/why-wesley-sneijder-should-snub-manchester-united-for-manchester-city-hy/
Buy Quality !!!! Hope Sneids women does not want the Lights of London over the Great Club.
Zibbie – Why are you shouting for Sneijder and Modric? What a 2-man midfield should that be? no defensive work.
get a life.
Nolan and Barton!
Stephen Hunt!
Sneijder will be a great buy but I Still have a fear because of his age.He will be 27 this june.
Not sure to spend 30 odd millions on a guy who is 27 and also a bit injury prone.And by chance he is not able to adjust to the english league then we may lose his value.
On other side if he becomes a hit here he will win us many trophies.But again he may give his 100% for maximum 3 years.I don’t expect sneijder to play like the way he is playing now after 30
What you guys think?
heard a rumor that we were negotiating with Independiente for a kid called Patricio ‘Patito’ Rodriguez. Its kinda freakish how is simular he is to a young CR7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm5e7WcJkq4
We should sign Obi and Lucas.
Best midfield ever seen imo.
Off topic yet truly hilarious..Liverpools previous owner thought Stevie G was gay.
http://swns.com/liverpool-owner-thought-steven-gerrard-was-gay-191012.html
Hey, if Barca want to buy new players and tinker with a line-up that is already a perfectly-oiled machine, then great…they might just get worse rather than better.
Anywhere else, Affellay, Rossi and Sanchez would be starting each game.
Irrational Reason for Signing a Player #2:
Daniele de Rossi must be signed by United because his name translates to “Daniel of Red” (almost)*
*courtesy of ManUtd.com
Irrational Reason for Signing A Player #3:
Luka Modric must be signed because he’s the same height as Paul Scholes. Good omen, that!
@ Saad – Haha I read that too mate!
@balaji : well said. excellent post. also i hope we get that japanese guy.. he’d come quite cheap and can develop into something great.. plus add to the revenues.
i hope there’s no long drawn out saga though…
Sanchez agreed personal terms with barcelona.
Lol @ Sir Shaggsy 15:57. As long as he’s not shagging OShea’s missus he’s alright with me!
He can shag who he wants.
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On the Young deal, if he arrives and he’s put bang in the middle it would be a big improvement. Not just in terms of his ability to shoot and link play, but what he’ll do for the players around him. If you notice when Nani is quiet in a game, he’s being cut off from the ball, teams are on him, thats why we often see the best of Nani when Evra or Giggs make a run to draw a defender off Nani so the boy can play.
Young has pace and a good engine, so him in the middle would bring Nani and Valenica into the game alot more, because he can drift along the middle, and overlap on either flank. Thats what he does for Villia, when he’s not scoring or assisting. Said on the other thread, bottom line Goals and Assists he’s outperformed every midfielder we have for the last few seasons. Only Nani this season has “been on Youngs level” in terms of stats. Obviously Nani is the better player.
man for man I think we have a better 11 than Barcelona TBH, but what makes them apart is their PLAY and how they utilise every single fucking player, while our play sometimes leaves GOLD like Nani looking average because we can’t get him on the ball to shoot at goal. Nani’s got a better shot outside the box than all our strikers except Rooney, but how often do we play him in? Not good enough.
Think about it…. we have a player like Nani delivering more assists than he receives. He’s always the one playing the ball into the box, and he’s rarely the one given chance after chance to score, and thats why he can sometimes frustrate some of you when he tries to cut in and shoot. I don’t fucking blame him, scoring fantastic goals is in his dna. A workhorse like Valencia you keep wide, but a player of Nani’s ability should be on the receiving end of more assists from his team mates. He showed his class by sticking to his task
Which brings us back to Young. Sometimes its not a question of best players. Pick YOUR best starting 11 and tell me what other team has better players man for man? We could buy big name players all day the name of the game is to get the Quality you’ve already got into the game. Valencia was essential to raising Rooneys game, same thing with Hernandez, and they were both no-name signings. IF YOUNG can keep up with Anderson, and bring NANI into the game, he’ll be a bargain.
But regardless WHO we sign thats all I want, I want existing players brought into the game more, whats the point spending 50M on whoever if it doesn’t bring out the best in our existing players?
I’ve just had a thought…. Nani behind Rooney with Young on the Left and Valencia on the right.
Jesus Christ.
nani4ever Been working on the Patricio Rodriguez think for a year I think. Kid looks really good and naturally athletic. But I need a better number on his height. Couple sources list him at 5.6/170cm.
That can’t be right.
just in from f365
Luka Modric is NOT going to Manchester United. So says Luka Modric’s advisor Mario Mamic…
“Luka will not go to Manchester United and he will also stay at Tottenham because I know that president Daniel Levy will not let him go,” he told Croatian newspaper Jutarnji List.
“I heard that somebody has offered £20m pounds for Luka but that’s crazy,” he added. “When we talk about Modric, that price would only be enough to buy peanuts.”
FletchTHEMAN – it’s true alright. Pat O’Rodriguez is a wee slip of a lad at just 5 feet and 6 inches. His tough upringing on the mean streets of Belfast will stand him in good stead though and I see him withstanding the rigours of the Premier League quite easily.
Zibbie – I don’t expect us to ‘win’ the close season, but you and I both know that Trophies aren’t won at the end of the window.
I expect to see a lot of disappointment if and when big name players go to City, Chelsea or one of the big clubs – Chewsee have to buy in particular. Not worried though. I’ll be preaching the same mantra. The chavs will typically go for big name Torres type signings. As others have pointed out, the best United type signings are players with the right personality and attributes but these are 9 times out of 10 NOT the players wanked over by the press, who Sir Alex so often proves wrong of a Saturday and particularly at the end of the season proper!
@Rohan – I am DELIGHTED to hear that. Ratboy is not a Manchester United player for me. No chance.
If I HAD to choose between Sanchez, Modric and Young, I’d choose Young.
Its not always about the best player its about what you need. People are saying Sanchez is exciting but can he sit in the middle of the park and distribute the ball? Can he pose a threat from the middle on either foot? What about Modric?
More than anything we need energy in the middle to bring our other players into the game. If we ain’t dominating the flanks we often don’t win, our midfield has been non-existant for a while. Sanchez wouldn’t fix that, and Modric is a square peg, his style of play isn’t what we need, but Young has the energy, passing and goal threat to bring our other players into the game.
Whoever we get for the middle, they are gonna need the ability to match Young’s existing goal and assist stats, they’ll need his pace, and they’ll need his passing ability. If we can find a player better than Young that has those attributes, brilliant, if not, Young is the obvious answer, and 20M isn’t a lot for the current BEST English midfielder. IMO we’re not missing much, and whoever we buy they need to improve the performance of our other players.
In my honest opinion lads, I think Fergie is After Douglas Costa of Shaktar Donetsk and he has been debating for a while whether to go for him or not as proven by when he wanted to have him on trials before signing him,anyway,the lads has done well in europe this term,ripping a new hole in dani alves and the like this term
but seriously,hes left footed, plays everywhere ashley young plays and is only 20,he would even needed to be registered! shoudl snap him up for 13-18 max,saf knows he cant miss out on that lad
I’m hearing it’s Yung, not Young from my source Mario Manc.
@fred : so you want sneijder?? or adam? or defour?? whats the ideal replacement acc to you
20 million gets peanuts?
6 Million gets Chichorito
Replacement for who?
Real madrid said we shld name our price for chicha. How about Kaka/Ozil and some pounds? And if they cant comply they shld fuck off. Afterall, CR7 shld av cost 100m. We were robbed, we shld av requestd for Sneijder/VDV with that 80m, I knw they were so mad to have Ronnie then and they wld av releasd one of the two. Is this nt another opportunity??
If Ratboy wanted to join United, he wouldn’t have signed a new 6-year contract last season.
“On 30 May 2010, Modrić was awarded with a new six-year contract, that runs until 2016. Modrić said after the deal; “Tottenham Hotspur gave me my chance in the Premier League and I want to go on to achieve great success here with them. Yes, there have been enquiries from other big clubs, but I have no interest in going anywhere. Last season’s Top 4 finish was an indication of where we are as a Club and I feel I can continue to improve and go on to achieve everything I want to at Spurs”"
FORGET ABOUT THE CUNT MODRIC, I’M BEGGING YOU!!!
@Notey – I’m not sure I’d even swap him for Ronaldo.
replacement for scholes.. in the midfield. that desperately needs reinforcements… i don’t want to read darron gibson on a utd team sheet again
WHAT??? – Young will play on the wing. We still need a central midfielder. Fergie will be cooking something up….
When will we bring in the central midfielders?!?!?!?! I’ll kill myself if we go through another year without a proper central midfield. I’m tired of being overrun in midfield by the likes of Blackpool etc.
There’s no need to slag Gibson off. He never said he was fucking Zidane or anything. He’s a home-grown player, United through and through, who gives is all every time he steps onto the pitch for us. Don’t you dare forget about the fucking screamer against Bayern Munich or the beautiful assist for Valencia against Schalke. Gibbo is a top pro and happy to be a part of the squad. We need the likes of him and O’Shea, even though they’re not going to star in any Nike ads FFS.
If we sign Marlo, hope he doesn’t bring Chris and snoop with him.
thats some serious optimism on your part fred….
I think Gibson improved this year. But that’s not saying much. You can’t even trust him to run the midfield against Southampton.
@Colbert – well Modric has ruled himself out and Sneijder’s insane wages pretty much rule him out too. Looks like our scouts are going to have to pull a rabbit out of a hat.
The “fans” on here today. Footy manager or somat? God help us.
Scott, save us from another of these 1000 posts transfer specials.
1000 posts of utter dross.
Give us some entertainment.
Another “this is what it feels to be city” would do for some diversion.
Captain Tevez, I’ll never return to Manchester?
Or, how about a top ten restaurants in Manchester?
Just saying.
Yes. Optimism is the new pessimism. You should try it.
FletchTHEMAN – you want to ignore the latest addition to our great club and talk about City? Suit yourself, pal. Welcome to United, Ashley!
Fred – Are we signing someone?
Sir shaggsy. LMFAO what a name.
back to topic, I think Young can fit in. Fergie will find a way to fit young into the equation and i’m looking at a 4-2-3-1 next season. Chicharito upfront ,rooney in AMF, and a winger rotation out wide. i am still holding out for a good centre midfielder.
Fred, Present company duly excepted mate.
Saturday 13 August 2011, can’t wait.
Give me some bloody football
Oi Danny – shut yer fuckin’ trap about transfers. Do one, pal.
@FletchTHEMAN – LOL no problem, pal. Just taking the piss, as usual.
for those who are down with a case of no footballitis. ( mine is really bad).
There’s the Euro under 21 champs this summer ( GO DEUTSCHLAND!!!!)
There’s the women’s world cup.
there’s the world under 20 champs ( Usually the career launchers for great players)
There’s also the world Under 17 champs ( the career launcher for David De Gea , Tony Kroos and many others) so it’s not that bad this summer.
@Fred wow. kind of mean. but at this point i’m not sure if you meant that or not.
@Danny – I see that too, but with Chicharito knackered after having had no rest since the summer before last, I see Ash Young in the hole behind Rooney (leave it!)
@Danny – no way did I mean it! Just being silly, pal. My apologies.
Sign Up Barton & Nolan – Both Rejected Deals at Newcastle….Lets Gooooo
Bill Knob got Penetrated By Bill & Bob Simultaneously,must be why he’s so interested in Ryan & Rhodri Giggs
Bill Bob
penetrated by a knob
also likes it in his Gob
because its his favourite Job.
i strongly beleive it will be de gea young and wesley sneijder plus varane
plus we will also have cleverley and welbeck
@Fred hehehe i thought so. that was why i wasn’t quick to jump to conclusions.
Funny to hear all the talk of what positions we should be covering…
The horse ain’t breathing anymore, he’s been shipped to a glue factory FFS.
Gents, save yourselves time and energy and just forward these pearls of wisdom onto SAF, I’m sure he’s eagerly awaiting suggestions as to what United need, he just landed the post, what, 2 decades ago?
Comfortable with WHOEVER the gaffer brings in. Remember quite clearly choking on my cheerios last season reading of “Smalling for 10 million quid” and some “Striker from Mexico named after a vegetable” on his way hear. Yeah, like we needed another striker at the time.
We didn’t shore up the midfield last season and won the league by 9 points. IF we don’t “shore it up” again but bring in talent to surround the likes of Carrick, Fletcher, Ando, etc I’m pretty sure we’ll make out okay.
This “catching up to Barca” talk is annoying as well. This is United. We play for domestic domination and anything after the fact is icing on the cake. I could care less if we ever “catch up to Barca,” if we’re so emphatically chasing CL glory we should rebrand ourselves as English Virus FC or The Rent Boys Part Deux.
Just my two cents, but, I understand, it’s silly season, it’s off season, so what else is there to discuss?
Cedars Our man Purpose since the existance of this club has been to Knock Barcelona off Their Perch.
We even bought Cruyff’s Son in attempt to become Barca
Team to Beat Barca on Tour
—————Neuer———–
Rafael subotic Vidic Evra
Sanchez De rossi Schweini Young
——————-sneijder—————
——————-aguero——————-
Fucking hell, Clint! Are we signing that lot?
Question: When will the fixtures for the 2011/12 season be announced?
The fixture list will be announced on premierleague.com on the 17th June at 9:00 am.
Dannysoya, Cheers mate, I feel your pain.
also of interest,
COPA AM
7/3 Brazil v Venezuela (could see the twins)
7/3 Paraguay v Ecuador (could see TonyV)
Hey, hold on a minute – where’s Gibbo in your XI??
danny
soya thoughtya might like to go to the show,
feel the warm thrill of confusion, that space-cadet glow.
Well, I’ve got some bad news for you sunshine…
Pink isn’t well
he stayed back at the hotel
and they sent us along as a surrogate band.
We’re gonna find out where you fans really stand!
That tune runs through my head EVERY time dannysoya posts!
Ladies and Gentleman, I have news for you, Do not believe a word Fred says! He is a fucking nutcase. Like, he is seriously out of his mind and needs help.
Take him seriously at your own peril.
@Fletch & Danny – and don’t forget the CONCACAF Gold Cup for your Chicharito fix!
You can’t prove that, Balaji! Muahahahaha!
Smartalex’s song is “In the Flesh” by Pink Floyd
Hello Everyone, Personally with the news coming in on Modric, I’ll prefer United to concentrate on Sneijder and be quick about it. His wage demands- £175k per week? Fine, of course expensive but that is the present market situation thus Lets get on with it. Its vital the new signings get a proper pre season with United. I must say this United have in the past IN SOME cases (not all) been sluggish with transfer dealings. An example was Berbatov, after Van Nistelrooy left, United dilly dallied till Spurs got Him for £12m, same thing with Modric Yes Modric now United might have to pay over the odds again and some other players as well…Overall Young, De Gea and Sneijder plus a potential type signing(Varane or Alvarez or Rodriguez ) will be enough for the summer…
Dandivine7 – You don’t want much.
fred
last i heard their all available mate except for schweini who needs a little push in the right direction.
According to some random guys on ROM, we have the money to buy anyone now.
also we’re playing barca week in week out so we have to constantly sign players to catch up to them now
gibbo’s on the bench with Adam, Barton & Nolan…..fuck it throw in Tiote, 3 for 2 all over The UK this weekend
That’s the tune Fred, what a great band! Pink Floyd rules!
Whenever CedarsDevil spots dannysoya he heads out for sushi.
danny, you are a catalyst!
Dear god no. I know there is an English premium but young .
Bleh. It depresses me when we’re linked to young and Barca to Diego Sanchez. Personally, I am still not a major fan of Valencia despite his excellent performances at the end of the season. I like a little flair on the outside and prefer intelligent cunning players to simple solid ones generally.
Fred’s a Nut Case …..
I’ll have More Peanuts Please & Pistachios Fuck it 3 for 2 , Gimme some Brazil Nut aswell
SAF OUT , HUGHES IN !!!
@FletchTHEMAN – I can give you a taste of what to expect from the new fixtures: early kick offs at the likes of Everton, Liverpool and Stoke after midweek Champions League away games, back to back “blockbuster” games against Arsenal and Chelsea in the final weeks of the season, a game at Anfield in April or May, the opening fixture will probably be against a promoted club. That’s all I can think of for now.
WHAT??? – young will play on the left, he has never played much in a central role maybe opff the striker but thats it. If united sign young united will still need a CM, if united by miracle signed ronaldo united will still need a CM, if united signed messi LOL, united would still need a CM
Toms….whos Diego sanchez? ….I think you meant Sanchez Watt. Also Fuck Valencia….i prefer Villarreal !
If we don’t get De Gea, there is always Han Seggers?
@Toms – Diego Sanchez?
Looks likely Welbeck won’t be at United next season and that we will play another season with just the one striker on the bench which we have grown used to. I personally feel that with 7 subs at least 2 should be strikers so that we can change a game.
Andy Dibble?
@Swede – where did you get that nugget?
douglas costa de souza,remember the name
We lack a penetrative player on the left. Park is good for certain types of games, but another option is needed. In my personal opinion, that option is Cleverley and we should leave it at that. However, if we were to get a player, I would say Young is the best we could get. He is fast, a huge threat on the counter attack and he is improving very rapidly which shows that he is ready for a step up. Some people improve later in their careers and his attitude is top class. The way he raises his game when he plays for England shows that, none of the other England players have the balls to step up, Ashley does.
Latest transfer rumour has it that Beckham won’t be joining spurs.
That’s some cryptic shit Toms.
For Me Sir Alex has settled on Young. Sanchez? I like Him however should United get Him We should be prepared to fight Real and Barca in the media every summer (Real are at it with Hernandez at the moment). One might start hearing stuff like ‘Spain is a dream’ and things like that. Young might be less skillful or less eye catching but I believe that Sir Alex is looking at the long term stability cos Sanchez might just leave earlier than We thought
Busby – How about Ron Jeremy? He could penetrate the left wing no problem.
Why the fuck are we obsessing with Barca? Because judging by some of the shit comments we need a fucking revolution with regards to signings just to live with them. What the fuck is wrong with some people? This is a team we will probably play a maximum of 2 games in Europe, and who’s to say these cunts won’t get knocked out before the final next season? It has happened before as Inter did it to them two seasons ago with 10 men and we knocked them out in the semi final in 2008. I made my case that we only need 2 signings, which prompted some complete prick to label as being arrogant. The reason I say we only 2 players is so the likes of the youth and people like Cleverley will not have their progress hindered.
I have also noticed that some fucking expert thinks he is a better judge than fergie with regards to signings and team tactics and someone who also repeats someones quotes in its entirity and speaks to them in such a fucking condescending manner. I also noticed he hasn’t got the decency to respond to balaji’s post, but everyone else’s, maybe he is a fucking racist scumbag or hasn’t got an answer to his top posts.
Let’s remember that this is Manchester United and not fucking West Brom where we need major surgery to improve on last season. We are the fucking champions of England. Who gives a fucking shit about Barcelona.
ancha @ 15:29: “I am curious whether you have been watching Roma last season and esp his performances, ”
Not much this year; I’ve grown impatient of Serie A. And I fully take your point that there have been criticisms of his recent form – but, let’s remember, that form is temporary while class is permanent. I know that that little response is hardly sufficient to deflect criticism but it needs to be considered in relation to the many reports of “trouble” surrounding De Rossi’s personal life as well as the pretty obvious sense that Roma has been a dysfunctional club for a while. That’s why I think he’s grown “stale” and could benefit from a change of scenery.
BerbaGod @ 15:18 – De Rossi in his pomp is a class apart from DarrenFletcherinho. He’s not yet 28 but he has been the best player in the world at his position in his early 20s. He might not be now but I happen to think that if the question is one of “stale-ness” then a change of scenery might be just the ticket. Also, having De Rossi and Fletcherinho playing together, would provide both steel and bite to the midfield – something that has been sorely missing in away EPL matches and was sooo very noticeable at Wembley when Barcelona were given the keys-to-the-kingdom.
I suggested Sandro as being a better fit for UTD’s needs than Modric because I don’t think that TheLads lack “creativity” so much as dynamism in midfield. Luka Modric won’t provide that and, as for “creativity” isn’t Modric the guy who scored one goal and assisted on one other on a team which scored 25 or 30 fewer goals than the so-called “uncreative” UTD ? He ain’t no Scholes in terms of his physical presence (they might be the same height but Scholes was strong and played hard) and his range of passing.
N’Zogbia is an interesting option – apart from David Silva, name a better, left-footed attacking player. And don’t mention Gareth Bale who is a sprinter rather more than a footie player. I don’t lend much credence to these “reports” about “moodiness” – usually, they’re just lazy reporting.
Balaji @ 15:45 – I don’t know where to start in voicing my disagreements with your post. Clearly, we have different viewpoints on a number of matters – or, to put it in other terms, we are fully in agreement about “ends”, not means. AND that’s a good thing.
ididnotzeeit – Spot on mate. What is with some on here thinking they know best and thinking Fergie hasnt summat sorted? Its cringeworthy. Just because we may get Young why on earth does that mean Fergie hasnt addressed the centre of the park? Of course he will. It isnt just about “well lets go get so and so”. Honestly its annoying seeing posts like “why the fuck havent we signed anyone yet ” or “Why get a winger and no centre midfielder”? For fuck sake after 50 years in the game I am pretty suere Fergie has some idea.
Go Go Yubari: Don’t laugh. Do you want to screw me, yes or no?
Japanese Businessman: Yes.
[She stabs him in the stomach with a Samurai short sword]
Go Go Yubari: How about now, big boy? Do you still wish to penetrate me?… Or is it I who has penetrated you?
Dandivine7 – One things for sure, United would never of signed Martin Luther King. I have a dream….
We should contract The Bride to Killbill bob.
@Willie, hahaha sure lol
Now we’re talKing! At the double!
tired of all the transfer nonsense, players demanding 200k and insane transfer fees starting to take its toll, stupid wishing for the football to start considering there’s still a long way to go. I’d be pretty stoked if SAF confirmed a couple of the youth players getting a fair slice of the action next season
Getting really bored of all these Giggs’ scandals, can we not have a summer where our club’s name doesn’t get dragged through the mud.
Even, what appears to be the most genuine of footballers, have to be a dick!
Kings – United do need surgery to the engine room badly said that to death, but, I will say this again look at the united and barcelona lineups at the final, and how many of the 4 area’s of both sides would you choose, lets look through the list
VDS – Valdes
Alves – Fabio
Ferdinand – pique
Vidic – Mascherano
Evra – Abidal
Carrick – busqetes
Xavi – Giggs
Iniesta – park
Messi – Valencia
Rooney – Villa
Hernandez – Pedro
So really when we put things into perspective, pound for pound we have a better overall side, they just have 3 players at most who are out of this world. I picked alves because he plays every week and is key to barcelona’s way of playing. If united say sign 3 players the CM to go along with young we could play like this
De Gea
Rafeal ferdinand vidic evra
Carrick
fletcher ??
Young hernandez rooney
I am confident we will sign young and de gea, but the CM area is still up for debate.
Smartalex – bill bob and mick are deep under the covers!
LMAO!! didn’t know my name was that powerful. talking of incredibly funny name.s ididnotzeeit makes me laugh till i cry. that name is just too epic. LOL.
A big RoM welcome to retuning royalty!
His Majesty the Kings and His Majesty King Eric are in the house!
I think the point rgds young and valencia is spot on i remember a lot of reds being underwelmed but how many dont rate tony now
for me I always rated young under o’neill looked a gd player hard 2 judge this year as Villa have been gash and Houiller was down as well as a shit sandwich
think hes got gd quality delivery and can go past a man for the rite price could be a gd addiiton
£10m would be more realistic i feel.
Double that is stupidly high, imo.
What has he done to warrant a £20m price tag?
@TonyBee: TQ for the Jenna pics. Guess she not healthy ,not good.Sad.
@smartalex: u sang a song about kaya! whats does kaya mean to u in da song? over here kaya is a kind of cocunut jam for bread, breakfast.
ru refering to bob marley?
bchilds, I am surprised and disappointed in you.
Having said “Getting really bored of all these Giggs’ scandals …” you immediately add impetus to the scandalising with “Even what appears to be the most genuine of footballers, have to be a dick!”
What the fuck! Don’t call our hero and legend a “dick”
Don’t judge him either, especially as you are not in possession of the facts and have absolutely no right to judge him on these matters.
Please don’t now choose to be rude to me for pointing at your shallow behavior.
If you attack Ryan Giggs, I WILL point at you.
Best you amend your poorly thought comment. Thanks.
Moving on (hopefully), it is nice to see you posting again.
Ffs, I am not hearing rubbish like “Young won’t get us to Barca’s level”! Is that our sole aim? We’ll play them a maximum of 2 times next season!
Our squad may have been good enough to win the League this year- but with our rivals looking to spend, that may not be the case next year. So we’ve gotta keep improving. Signing someone like Young, who’d bring quality, variety and versatility- smart move. £20m is a piss take though- last year of his contract, £15m max.
Sanchez is a better player but unlike Young he’s expensive. Unlike Young he doesn’t have the experience of our League. And unlike Young ( I think!) he has his heart set on Barca i.e doesn’t see Utd as a place he wants to go. (Just saw something on Twitter btw, about how Sanchez has agreed personal terms with Barca, it’s just down to Udinese to accept a fee)
@RedMist
More than Jordan Henderson who looks likely to command a similar fee.
The transfer world really has gone nuts, remember when £20m would have bought the world’s top talent, now even an average player costs upwards of £20m. Stupid.
@smartalex
I don’t think it was a poorly thought comment, legend on the pitch and for United without question.
Off the pitch damaging his reputation greatly. I love United and always will but it doesn’t mean I will blindly follow players who act likes dicks. Something, you cannot deny, Giggs has acted like.
RedMist
- what had carrick done before we signed him that made him so special he was worth 18 million.
- Look at hargreaves with his injury record, that warrant him to be worth 18 million.
- Heck what had Carrol done that said for liverpool to waste 32 million.
- Torres what had he done in the last 2 years of liverpool he was worth chelsea spending 50 million.
- Young at 18 million with today’s prices it is a bargain, the 20 is adding wages. Young I can see being uniteds best wide player, he could replace ronaldo’s movement with the ball and positional sense, he may not score 48 goals, but his pace and do not forget he can take penalties so he will be a huge asset and will improve united’s first 11 let alone the squad.
I’m getting sick of waiting for some news. What all that bull about working on signings for months. So far nothing is happened, i expected at least one signing early doors.
@Dave Malaysia: Hey buddy! Kaya is marijuana, cannabis, hashish, hemp, sinsemilla;informal pot, dope, grass, weed, Mary Jane, bud, hash, bhang, kef, ganja, locoweed; reefer, doob, spliff, toke, dagga.
willierednut, I hope they aren’t mating under those covers! That would be an abortion at it’s earliest stage.
http://aculturedleftfoot.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/6210/#comment-339743
some Barcelona guy bashing an Arsenal blog, for talking shit about Manchester United!!
@bchilds, The problem is why at all we feel the need to talk about that aspect of his life.
Is he our role-model or did he hurt someone from our family? No, I don’t think so.
Most people here did not entertain the Rooney talks and only entertained the Terry talks because he is a dick already.
I feel there is no need to tarnish the names of one of our greatest sons just because he couldn’t keep his pants up within his own private life.
@smartalex: thanks for the info,say bruther, u on some kaya now ru mun? u type good!
@TonyBee: seen some stuff that jenna is with some MMA dude,got kids together,he smack her in a fight at thier home, adds to the breast an health problems.
Well at least Tori Black is gooooooodddd.
@fergie is the boss
In fairness pal I don’t think the valuation is wrong if Young had 3 years remaining on his contract, I think the main issue most (me included) have is that in 12 months time he could walk from Villa on a free so surely that means the transfer fee shouldn’t be as high as £20m.
Is Young worth 20 million??
RedLife – it is not even july yet, the june month is the chess tactics, where clubs start putting their pieces into place and looking where to strike next. July is where the deals start to really get underway so relax I say plenty of time
bchilds
Why are you asking me to judge our living legend? In fact you are telling me that I have to consider Giggs to be a dick.
I am getting fucking annoyed. Don’t tell me to consider him in that way.
If that is your message, tell it somewhere else. Do not shout out your shallow anti-Giggs views here. Especially as you know that nearly everyone here loves him. Your actions are selfish and nasty.
Leave it alone.
@smartalex
Jesus, he’s just expressing his opinion. This is a blog for discussion right?
yo @ Balaji , whats up dude? no news on Steven Defour yet .
Costas Where Art Thou?
@Dave Malaysia – the list of names I copied from the dictionary. I type with 1 finger!
Pathetic, I know!
Here’s one for the moral brigade…
I need you to look me in the eye and say that you won’t get a boner if Imogen Thomas strips down in front of you.
If you can do that, then you are allowed to talk about his private life.
@smartalex: nah ,its ok,as long as u type. say can u save Tony Bee,hes stuck in the other thread qouting movie lines. I check my mail of the latest entrys and there he is, with u and others ,funny u guys.
is the target 2000?
@Dave, Been on the look out mate. Following nearly every paper I can think of and keeping my ears prepped in Belgium.
Mum’s the word, sadly.
As I said before, that could be the rabbit out of the hat for Sir Alex during this summer is my opinion.
This will be a joke to me if we complete this signing. If we want to start competing with clubs like Barcelona, then signings like this are a backwards step rather than a forward one.
Young is weak, not a particularly good goalscorer, doesn’t get a lot of assists, and doesn’t possess the sort of trickery that Nani does. He’s a good player yes, but nowhere near Man Utd class.
On the same day we sign Ashley Young, Barcelona go and sign a different right footed winger, Alexis Sanchez, one of the most sort after players in recent history. He is the only player who could come close to being anything like Ronaldo, who fired us to our most successful period ever. The gulf in class between the two players, is indescribable, its a chasm in difference.
Even if it is £10m, what is the point in signing Young, when in big games at the end of the season we have had our player of the season Nani, who is a far far superior player than Young, on the bench? It just doesnt make any sense.
How anyone could be happy if this goes through is completely beyond me.
Colbert
If bchilds is allowed to call our legend a dick (totally unacceptable) I can complain.
I see you like to take the Lord’s name in vain. that goes a long way to explain why you’re OK with people trashing Ryan’s name based on a media frenzy.
Do you also denigrate other religion’s leaders, prophets and Gods?
Davie MALAYSIA….IS YOUSE LOOKING AT ME….
Dave Malaysia
Did You Say Thee Tori Black??
I met her once When I went London & she was there for a modelling shoot aswell. This is how the convo went.
Clint: Hey Your Tori Black right?
.
TB: Yeh, I am, Where do you know me from?
Clint : I see you all the time when away from the Missus
TB: laughs
Clint: Seeing as you get paid for doing shit guys, how about I give you the time of your life
……….. On The House of Course
TB: I Can’t I gotta go to a Modelling shoot in 30 minutes.
Clint: Thats enough time, Ahh Oh well your Loss, Have nice time in London.
True Story, Biggest Regret of My Life
Young is a great player, fast tricky, sets up and scores goals, he just needs the best stage regularly to be considered worthy.
20 million is abit much but he’s English that’s what u will have to pay.
Imogen yes she would do a job.
19
I wished Giggs had shagged me……could have contacted Max Clifford and made a fucking mint……
Smartalex…you are right….what the fuck has it got to do with any one else
@Balaj, Your 20.09 post spot on. Ryan’s human but also a legend
@TonyBee: Finally the soprano is in da house!
@Balaji: One thing i must is this,these guys live a porn star lifestlye. Meaning they are filthy rich,women throw themselves at them ,wanting to do all kinds of things to them, for regular dudes like myself(not including u and smart of cedars or tony cos for all i know u guys cud be frolicking as well….)
U see how does a guy resist?
Have we signed Young yet……… FFS….TILL IT HAPPENS…. OR DOESN’T…. WHO FUCKING CARES…..
IN SAF WE TRUST
fergie is the boss – Yeah I know we need a central midfielder mate, that is a no brainer. I’m sure the boss has something lined up. All I’m saying is – not aimed at you – we don’t need to make provisions for Barcelona, a team we will probably only face in the Quarter’s, semi or final. And as mentioned, who’s to say they won’t get knocked out beforehand. All I have seen since the final is a plethora of players that we should sign, it is comical to say the least. We are not a team in disarray that we need all these signings. Slight tweaking of the squad is required. Also, all these people shitting themselves because we will probably sign Young, thinking he is the only new face coming in. We haven’t even reached half way into June yet. There is plenty of time my friend.
smartalex – Hello my friend. Hope you are well.
@Dave Malaysia – I don’t know what the target is, or even if there really is one. MG mentioned a figure of 1500 possibly being a record. At this stage it seems that TonyBee is (jokingly) intent on posting last!
@Dave, I get off on a photo of Imogen itself, imagine how I would be if I were presented with the real thing stripped to the bone?
@Papii, Funny, We had the same conversation. Only difference is that we ended up in bed and I did give her the time of my life.
Of course, that was when my fucking alarm went off. I was just about done as well.
That would be the biggest regret of “my” life.
A lot of familiar face lifts on here….
@smartalex
You go right for the throat don’t you? Calm down, man. Of course you can comment on bchilds’ comment, but I thought you were overly aggressive.
It’s nice that you think you can judge my character based solely on the tame expression “Jesus”. All the evidence you needed. eh? I hope for your sake you never hear “oh my god”, you’d probably keel over from the shock.
North Stand Tier 2 – I will give you a state about sanchez
2008/09
Goals 3
2009/10
Goals 6
2010/11
Goals 12
He is not exactly a goalscorer is he
So young does not score many goals or assists lets see shall we since the 2007/08 season in his first full season with villa
2007/08
9 Goals 17 assists
2008/09
9 Goals 14 assists
2009/10
Goals 9 16 assists
20010/11
9 goals 13 assists
so really he has chipped in with the goals tally of any wold fassioned winger would get, and he is one of the most creative wingers in europe. Adding the fact he is a great penalty taker, and good at set pieces is an upgrade for united. He has actual more weapons than nani posseses, it is not about trickery its about being effective and much like TonyV. If your best argument he is not has fancy has nani then it is a poor argument
@Clint-IamYourPapii: ru kidding dude? hehe ,good story.
@FITB, That is nearly everyone’s arguments these days mate.
Why don’t you like Young?
1) He is not world class.
2) He won’t take us to the next level. (I am still contemplating where the next level is.)
3) He won’t help us beat Barcelona. Well, Sir Alex seems to think so. So, who the fuck cares what you think?
4) He is not fancy. Since the dawn of time, I cannot imagine United signing a lot of fancy players. We sign players who want to play for United and who fit within the United qualities.
Seriously, I, for one, am getting pissed off at such comments.
Kings – LOL I actually also said there is plenty of time, hopefully we have the young defender signed along with ashley young and de gea almost completed. In july we will then put all our efforts getting the CM we have all wanted since barca found out our midfield in rome 2009
oh that will be the end for rio and twitter
called a journo from mirror a fat prick
Balaji…….I met a british model once at a club aswell….taylor something…..gotta lap / strip dance
The only guy to get one that night because i was a Gentlemen & didnt ask her to take off her top off outta around 25 fellas that did.
didn’t shower for a good week 
He is a fat prick! Whoever it is!
Clint – I can see your nose growing from Belfast!
Denton you used to post decent comments mate….what happened?
willie – it’s Ollie Holt!
Kings – and a cheery hello to you!
I believe that Sir Alex’s intent was primarily to compliment Barcelona in defeat.
We are not about to completely overhaul our ethos based on a single game.
And with regard to improving our results inn Europe, that is impossible.
Are we to be so vain as to believe that we should win every game we play? No.
We didn’t concede anywhere on the continent, how is that improved?
If we were offered 2 finals in the next 4 years, we’d be shitting fingers next week.
Zelh – Rio’s spot on! lol.
Number one thi off season is NOT ABOUT Barcelona. it NEVER was about barcelona. We lost a champions lge final BIG DEAL. why on earth would we now attempt to change our ENTIRE system just because of one team that doesn’t even play in our league? The aim is to improve Manchester United as a Club on the field. so if we buy Ashley Young it IS an improvement like it or not. Who gives a damn about. Barcelona. We might not even play them next season so what would be the point of buying players with Barcelona in mind? SMH.
Balaji Sivaraman – exactly mun. When have united signed fancy dan wingers who like to overplay, like CR7 of aug 2003 to may 2006, and nani. Look at united’s wide players before ronaldo was signed, beckham giggs kanchelskis sharpe coppell valencia park, these wide players are more of the typical united wingers united fans have grown up and loved, ronaldo and best have been the exception. But why are fans getting obsessed of bitching on signing trickery players to try and get to barca’s level, madrid signed ronaldo and kaka and they still cant match barca, and these trickery players would not have done a thing against barca.
Let’s put this into perspective, not even barca in 6 or 7 years time will match their current generation, madrid have had to spend 500 million to try and match barca, it is just barca’s time, much like united of 94 99 08. Lets just concentrate on winning title no20, get a bit of luck in europe and who knows.
@ Fergie is Boss
Good stats! But you have to remember that Sanchez is 22, and is just finding his game. He is going to get better and better, and as a natural talent, is on a different level to Ashley Young. But he would improve our first team, I’m not sure Young will.
Its not about being tricky, but Nani was far more effective than Young was last season anyway. But Nani’s alround play, his ability to take the attention of two defenders and create space for others, are something that Young doesnt have. To me, Young is another one dimensional, over hyped English player.
What would worry me most, is having seen him play against Utd numerous times, I cant remember him ever doing a lot. Even if he scored maybe, I mean his all round play, getting into the game, effecting it, troubling the fullbacks – I havent seen enough form him over the years.
And if he takes pens, then he wont be doing at Utd. Rooney, Nani, Giggs would all pull rank on that. And after Hernandez’s pen for Mexico, I’d rather see him taking some pens! Its a bit like when Barry used to take pens, everyone said he got 10 goals a year for a defensive mid, but in reality, 8 of them were pens!!!
@Zelh Hi, it was a DM to Ollie, not a tweet You can see on a timeline thus Ollie does not have the concrete evidence. Papers will go bananas for sure no doubt
Colbert says: “smartalex … It’s nice that you think you can judge my character …”
Where did I judge your character? You are lying.
Leave off!
Or don’t.
Dandivine7 – I saw it. Never said it was a tweet
Not only the papers. I think Fergie will have a word too.
@NST2, What would worry me most, is having seen him play against Utd numerous times, I cant remember him ever doing a lot.
But have you seen him play “FOR” United with players like Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Nani, Valencia with Carrick, Giggs and Fletcher pinging him balls to the wing.
I don’t think you can make comments on how he will fare with players of such quality when he is playing for a shitty Villa team where he is literally carrying the team almost on his own.
@smartalex
“I see you like to take the Lord’s name in vain. that goes a long way to explain why you’re OK with people trashing Ryan’s name based on a media frenzy.”
You’re putting words in my mouth and judging me because I “took the Lord’s name in vain” as you say it. What is this, the 1950′s? Are people that thin-skinned still?
Btw, fuck your jesus.
Here’s an interesting link and reason why we shouldn’t be panicking about having to spend £100m on a new midfield etc….
http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-the-2010-2011-academy-season/70899/
@ Balaji
But its not just about being fancy. Its about recognising the talent that they have, and being able to harness that into making them a world class player.
Everyone moaned last season about our one dimensional football, but as soon as someone suggests we need a player who can open things up with a bit of trickery the knives are out. As if we arent also Utd fans… I think its fair to say, that until Nani stepped it up this season we missed the trickery and ability Ronaldo had to beat a couple of players and create something from that. Thats all it is.
To me, and obviously some other people, Young isnt the payer who can do that. Or, there are other players out there, who granted may cost a bit more, but can as you put it “take us to the next level”
Isnt that what it is about? Rising to the challenge as Fergie puts it. Arent we bored of getting the CHamps League final and not winning? I am. Thats what is so good about Utd, it’s never good enough, we always want to be better. As soon as you lose that you end up like Liverpool throughout the 90′s!
@ Balaji
“I don’t think you can make comments on how he will fare with players of such quality when he is playing for a shitty Villa team where he is literally carrying the team almost on his own.”
This is a fair point that I do accept. But its a point you can make about every player. Its applicable to anyone who doesnt play for a top club. For that reasoning, Adam would be the best CM in the world. He isn’t.
@Balaji Sivaraman
well we better get fancy players who want to play for United because a couple would be put us in good stead.
I think a lot of people misunderstand the whole “take on barcelona”. Sure we may not even get to play them at all in a season and we could still win the competition, but the question is how do we make United stronger not just to defeat Uefalona but anyone else. My sentiments are echoed by SAF too; “we welcome the challenge from anyone”.
I guess theres some OTT ideas but i think United have arrived at a point where changes here and there are needed. Maybe experiment with a CAM or One on top or 4-3-3 whatever, so long as we retain the United ethos we have to try. Right now can’t be arsed to complain about Young, if SAF wants him i guess he’ll get him,we just have to hope he can add value to the squad.
Speaking of ridiculous ideas, the idea of Young playing in the midfield is simply insane.
well almost 400 comments to read bbl.
North Stand Tier 2 – he is not that much better than young, actually I rate young ahead of nani has an overall better player, without rooney who else would united rely on to constantly take a penalty, giggs with his personal life not a chance. Maybe hernandez.
No offence to villa but they have been poor and young still had a good season, put him in a united side regenerated with a settled partnership upfront, a new CM to go along side carrick he is going to be class.
When has nani been effective in the last phew months, he actually still flatters to decieve, he has been effective without blowing sides away, and young not only is creative but he tracks back is well, which nani still goes on walkabouts, unless ypu are CR7 players like nani have to do more. That is what made players like becks giggs so important they always covered for the fullbacks which nani still does not do much.
This is why I rate wingers like park valencia and young ahead of nani, they do more work for the team and for most of the time they will tire sides out on and off the ball that is a quality that should never be lost. For what I see, nani holds onto the ball to much for my liking, gd player but you are overplaying nani’s overall ability to the team.
Sanchez is 23 not far from 24, yes he will improve but sanchez is another right winger, young can play in 3 positions right left and off the striker. Adding the fact the most important part, sanchez does not want to play for united, he wants to play in spain, young wants to come to united and that is more valuable than trying to get a player who has his heart set on barca.
20 million for a winger like young and what he will bring could be the buy of the season
Colbert
Any moral judgement, view or opinion you ever make is now forever known to be farcical.
Oh Willy, I would show you the pictures of the lap dance But Something sticks out so i Keep that to myself
We probably won’t pay £20m though. That would be insane when he has only one year left on his contract.
Slim – I’ve a feeling Fergie will tinker with the formation next season. If Young signs on the dotted line, we may have to tweak the system a little. Of course, we can still play 442 at home, but away from home, we need to be more solid. Too many teams got the best of our midfield for my liking.
slim – I give my thoughts on what united need to improve, everyone knows its the engine room. But who cares if we do not win in europe, sometimes a certain side gets their time. If united signed young modric and de gea we have improved the team. And imagine 2 lineups for prem and europe
prem side
De gea
rafeal ferdinand vidic evra
Valencia carrick modric young
rooney hernandez
europe
De gea
Rafeal Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Carrick
Fletcher Modric
Valencia Rooney Young
Clint – Something sticks out? Your right arm!
Kings – Great to see you posting buddy and fantastic post at 19:12….
Papii – Cracked me up with that post at 18:26
Evening all true REDS
The keyboard warrior is in the house! lol
But I doubt we will get modric with those idiots at spurs who think they are better than they are actually are. Still I laugh at redknapp saying spurs can win the league LOL
@smartalex
You’d like that wouldn’t you? Like it or not, we live in a world that values free speech. That you’re “offended” doesn’t mean anything. It’s not an argument. Religion is a farce and I have the right to say that.
What is this sudden obsession with fancy players?
IMO, for people who actually watch Nani play. He is at his best when he plays standard and makes bombing runs down the wing and delivers perfect crosses to our strikers.
Anytime he deviates from this and holds on to the ball for far too long and tries to be fancy, he just irritates the hell out of me and even players like Berbatov and Rooney if you can see their expressions.
Being fancy is not what football is about. Being simple is what football is about. Barcelona’s style is not fancy. It is absolutely simple but they have perfected it and they have eleven Professor X’s in their team who can read each other’s minds. It is not fancy at all. It does not involve trickery or stepovers, all it involves is passing and shooting.
United at their very best are a sight to behold. Remember the goal against Arsenal in 2009 or the Roma performance in 2007. Not a lot of fanciness or tricks there, just United playing to their very best.
I like the new United, reminds me of 1999. We don’t need our play centering around one man like it was in 2008 and 2009.
Sir Alex’s proposed buys are also indicative of how he wants us to be playing. He wants United playing as a team of XI players and for all those XI players to contribute effectively in our performances.
I can see that happening with the kind of players we’ve been linked with. Instead of us depending on the trickery of one player, we are going to be depending on the teamwork of XI players which also meets the Barcelona goal that most of you talk about.
@Fergie is Boss
I find it very hard to understand how all season, people have been crying out for Nani to be voted player of the season, saying that it is the ABU’s fault that “cunts” like Bale (as if he did anything wrong, lol) are voted for player of the year. Constantly quoting stats about Nani “effectiveness.”
He did win us many games singlehandedly, just not in the final few months. The main reason for me, apart from the injury at Liverpool, is that he got shunted to the left because Tony V came back (dont get me wrong Tony V was brilliant when he came back). Suddenly his confidence was knocked, and he was trying to do too much to get back into the team.
When he was playing with freedom, he was scoring or setting up a goal every single game. Often 1 of each.
Yes it is important to work back and cover your full backs, but Nani’s workrate has increased so much over the past season it is incredible. I think that it is harsh to say he doesnt work back at all now.
You are right about Sanchez’s age, my bad….
Hmmm Mankind…
Ayrton Senna was 34 years of age when he died doing what he loved best
He was one of the most incredible drivers and sportsmen in the world, but more so his humility as a human being gave him something other’s could only dream for.
When he died on that day in Imola as a young adult a part of me stopped – I am a man now still seeking my way in life and my dreams in this world – at that time Senna bought home something else that I had kept locked up inside unable to deal with.
That Duncan Edwards would never come back either.
Senna never gave up – he always said that in defeat you have to find the next big thing, you just cannot accept failure.
I am moving now and will continue to do so because one of my heroes was Ayrton Senna – a man who believed that in the face of adversity comes the real test of any man and that is that you find a way to carry on and rise.
I never had a chance to see the Busby Babes, but I got to see a part of Ayrton Senna – a person who I admired and looked up to. I wish that on the day he died that he hadn’t. I wish that he were still alive and that if it were be that he would never have won another race again.
But the truth is Ayrton Senna would never have accepted that fate. Ayrton Senna was more than a person.
He was a symbol of defiance and I salute the man for his courage and his strength.
May those that walk away from us find peace – may they find closure and solace. May they find that within us those that they leave behind that we carry on once in a while reminding each other how brilliant and gifted they were.
For The Busby Babes
For Ayrton Senna
For those that have left us – that we carry on in their footsteps with dignity and honour and lay the steps for those behind us to carry on following
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Remember when David Silva was flavour of the month on here?
Wille –
Cedars – Dont Worry Im a Zulu Warrior, I got Your Back
Balaji – Haha Professor X, Forget That we got Red Head Jean Grey on our Team – SCHOLESY
We don’t like to attack religions on RoM.
willierednut – too true mate, i want United back to the time where our midfield is compact, confident,putting pressure on opposition when we lose the ball. Thats why i’m all for a DM if i had to chose between a CAM or DM. Lets just get that part of the team solid again and ticking over, ideally – who am i kidding, what i’d like is for us to go for both CAM and DM, it gives us enough cover for whatever SAF has in mind.
A lot of people on here have intimated that getting 2 players is an overhaul. Rubbish, we’ve lost 2 midfielders this season and bringing 2 more balances it out, thats the way i see it though.
Again willierednut straying too much away from how we play at home and away just tells me, we haven’t found a system that we’re comfortable with. I’ll always reference 99 season. Home -4-4-2, Away- 4-4-2. Europe-4-4-2. We need to get that kind of consistency going again. For me thatswhat i mean when i talk about going to the “next level”. This way we become our best, playing the only way we know how. I really have no fucking clue what Fergie mindset is but i hope i pleasantly surprised.
@Fred say
Yup and for good reason i might add
@smartalex
Says who? You? You speak for the entire board? I make no such assumptions for myself. I only speak for me.
MG – That was Amazing, Thank you for That
MG
Bloody brilliant words of inspiration my friend………
Papii – Haha, I have no doubt about that buddy….
smartalex – Evening my friend
@MG, I was unfortunate enough not to see either Senna or the Busby babes in action.
But your words are more than worth that. Thanks for that inspirational post.
North Stand Tier 2 – since march he has been poor, like Balaji has been saying, nani holds onto the ball to much and never keeps it simple. Hence why he failed to play in the final, when valencia returned he sparked united into life onto another level, has that word is the new quote of the summer, and valencia is not a fancy player, tell me another winger who destroyed englands first choice LB at will.
Lets look at fergie’s 2 best sides, 94 99. And lets have a good look at the 2 midfields.
1994 midfield
kanchelskis keane ince giggs
Non of these players would even think of the word fancy, Andre would get the ball and terrify defences, giggs ability to twist players limbs with the ball at feet, but non of them were fancy. Ince and keane were all about domination, and they kept it simple
1999 midfield
beckham keane scholes giggs
same has 94, but what made this midfield special, scholes beckham and giggs may have been creative but they made the game simple.
And that has been the model of all the great united sides, doing what they are asked of in their positions.
fergie is the boss – yeah if we did sign those two, they would definitely improve our side. As per who would care if we don’t win the UCL, well SAF for one, the players, the fans, the board,the owners. That said like everything else its shouldn’t become an unhealthy obsession BUT i see no reason why should’t continue to give a good account of ourselves showing everyone that there isn’t only one team in the world paying football “the way it should be played”. There’s no such thing,everyone has their style. Its up to them to keep improving and showing it at the world stage
MG & Balaji
I have stated this before and sticking with the inspirational theme I will mention it again…. My late father watched the Babes and met the late Duncan….The way he described the great man still bring a tear to my eye
@slim, But the problem most people seem to be missing is that we were without our two main DMs for most of the season. Hargreaves never left the treatment table and Fletch got the virus.
It really is unfortunate that we’ve missed Fletcher for two of the biggest games of our lives. He certainly would’ve made a difference in both 2009 and 2011.
With Fletcher returning to full fitness and top form, I don’t see the need to buy another top quality DM. Fletcher is as good as anybody in the business at it. If you’re talking about cover for Fletch, then all suggested options are too expensive.
Young would be a very good addition to the squad but not for anything between £15-£20 million. £12 million would be a more realistic fee for a player in the last year of his contract. Fuck the ‘English Tax. You either come or you don’t’.
If we sign Young for £20million and presumably De Gea for £18million how much do we have left for midfield additions. I fear we may end up getting injury prone Arteta on the cheap with an on loan striker in return to make up the deal I am not knocking the logic for buying Young, just the ridiculous fee that a player near to the end of his contract should command.
Rai says:
Denton you used to post decent comments mate….what happened?
The guy has always wrote decent, intuitive and interesting posts from where I am sitting. If you are gonna insult anyone then go through every post in this blog and post back to me how many of them are actually posting about the proposed Ashley Young deal.
How many of these posts are about Imogen Thomas or Ryan Giggs or silly replies to silly fuckin. posts. Takes about 2 minutes to scroll down and read half the posts some pre-pubescent little pricks want to put on here. This an MUFC site where we air our views on UTD.
Let’s keep the mundane shit and newspaper scandal stories off this sight unless the posts have any relevance. Used to come on here and have a good bit of banter but too many dickheads coming on now who are more used to Facebook chat.
I think Young is quality. I think people need to stop seeing him and a winger and see his potential through the middle.
He is incredibly underrated, if we get him, even for £20m it would be a great signing/
Spot on I have mentioned this once a week, Money=taxes, WEATHER, Great City, Manchester not,(London is London) and Great Team. Man Utd has 1 in 4 recruiting tools.
wayne says:@11:41
large % of players don’t end up playing for their favourite club now we’re basing our transfer targets on if the player supported utd as a kid.lol
wish people would stop using players that go to spain as transfer targets missed,pet peeve of mine.utd cannot compete with the top spanish clubs in the market for several reasons,firstly check out how much both clubs pay their players fucking obsence,secondly the spanish taxation system favours spanish teams 25% tax compared to 50% in england and thirdly weather,unless the player is a die hard red going to pick spain over england everytime.
MG -
That was Truely Beautiful, It stirred something inside of me, i cant stop reading it over & over again.
Balaji Sivaraman – you’re assuming too much my friend. Like you said they were both on the treatment table. How does anyone know who’s going to hit top form. Fletcher didn’t exactly have a spectacular season before the injury, plus the one attribute we’re all screaming for be it DM or CAM is a players very very comfortable on the ball,willing to receive it in tight areas. Love fletcher to bits but that kind of player he is NOT
Balaji Sivaraman – yea carrick is the DM, you add fletcher should be back. But like always a player who is great at keeping the ball, united need the guile in the middle. Obvious schneider would be the dream, esp in a 433 system. It would improve players like carrick and anderson who would have someone of that class in there esp for europe
slim – This is why I do not see berbatov fitting into united’s systems for next season, a quality player but with the way united seem to be heading, he does not really fit into how we are playing. In a 433 system he cannot play, a 442 in europe I dont see where we can play him
You keep on talking to me Colbert, despite saying “fuck your jesus” to me at 20:48
Now you say ” I make no such assumptions for myself. I only speak for me.”
Actually, you are full of assumptions. In recent examples you say:
20:48 – “fuck your jesus” – where have I stated any religious affiliation?
21:09 – “That you’re ‘offended’ doesn’t mean anything” – was I offended by your sacrilege?
Today you have defended the right of people to attack Ryan Giggs and Jesus.
So, you are only speaking for you?
@Zelh
Zelh says:
Zibbie – Why are you shouting for Sneijder and Modric? What a 2-man midfield should that be? no defensive work.
get a life
TIME TO BELLY UP TO THE BAR AND BUY 2 OF THESE 3 MODRIC, SNEIJDER AND SANCHEZ !!!!!!
Sanchez and one of the two would be fine can you read Zelh
I have a life thats why I can’t post every hour of the day. I’m home recovering from surgery that is why I have been here so much as of late.
And Zehl FUCK OFF AND DIE next time you bash me do let it be right after I say I’m leaving for 6 hours you funking Donkey Cunt!
End of.
Get Carrick a decent partner/partners and watch us go. Micheal has done really well, sitting in front of the back 4. If we get some fresh legs to help him, we’ll be fine.
Hey friend CedarsDevil! How are you doing? A balmy eve in your quarter?
Or does Barmy fit better?
@slim, That I can agree with it. But personally a better choice would be someone in a similar mold to Scholes. Someone who is comfortable on the ball and can spray it to our wide players. IMO, that kind of player is more critical for us next season that a DM who is comfortable on the ball. Of course, we are going around in circles because that is exactly what you said.
@FITB, Yup, I agree that Carrick is one of our DM. But he plays in the hole ahead of the back two and is more of a positional defender who is better at making interceptions than a straight-up ball winner who can take it to the opposition. IMO, that is what we missed against Barcelona in both games – AKA Fletcher.
Colbert
Now now, calm it down… This is a football blog, I am sure there are religious related ones out there for you to vent your anger.
I am a non religious Christian yet words like that offend the fuck out of me ….
Keep it to football
Zehl I’m here now I will talk to you and explain anything you want.
Sometimes I wonder whether off-season has the unfortunate side-effect of turning us against each other because we don’t have United to talk about.
Great read as always ROM regulars, great ideas,thoughts and well explained.
OLLA ALL!!!
smartalex – I am very well my friend, as for your question and as usual you have confused the fuck out of me!
Genius with words you are and a true RED of course….
Balaji, it does that is why they call it silly season. As i was reading just pissed me off he said that after I said I was leaving. All the tension of silly season I get to caught up with it.
Fucking mad house!
Balaji
Off season is the perfect time to separate true supporters from fickle ones my friend
@Balaji your first post today was awesome.
willierednut- Exactly mate,thats one way to go, as opposed to getting a hard tackling defensive player. If we go that route then possession will be key, it will have to be a player who compliments carrick. Carrick with an AM comfortable on the ball and not shying away from it. Like Balaj says i guess we’re just going round in circles, fact is we’re just gonna have to wait and see what the Old Master got up his sleeve. I’d like to be pleasantly surprised
Willie
Only just realized? How is that digging by the way?
@Zibbie sanchez has signed for barca mate and modrics agent has said no way he’s coming to utd called a 20 mill bid a joke,peanuts suggesting his client is worth much more,WS wants 175k a week so its not looking good for any of those players
I expect personal attacks from trolls, not one of the ROM regulars. I have a wounder filled life full of love joy and good food and people to share it with.
I know Zehl has many friends here. That is so cool. This is his 3rd 4th dig at me so I want to talk it out.
Jar spoon, spoon jar!
smartalex
I said “I make no such assumptions for myself” in reference to you speaking for the entire board by saying “we don’t attack religion on ROM”. I said that I only speak for myself to make absolutely clear that my views about religion were only my own, and no one else’s.
And yes, by using words like “sacrilege” and phrases like “taking the lord’s name in vain” it’s pretty obvious you were offended. Only a believer says things like that.
People should have the right to say whatever they want, whether about Ryan Giggs, or Jesus, or anyone. That’s my view. I may not agree with what some people say, but I think harsh words should be protected too. Censure is a bad thing.
@CedarsDevil
“I am a non religious Christian yet words like that offend the fuck out of me ….”
haha:)
I saw that Wayne. So be it who ever we get I will support.
@Zibbie, Cheers mate!
But what about my rest??
I even had a discussion going on with Papii and Dave about Tori Black and Imogen Thomas, I thought those were better personally.
@Cedars, True that mate. I just read your little nugget of info about Duncan Edwards too. Great that your old man had the chance to meet the legend. Must’ve been awesome for you to hear the first-hand account of that experience.
Colbert
I do see the funny side! I will leave it up to you and smartalex to work things out…..
Cedars – There is light at the end of the tunnel! Was up all night on the Internet, looking for U2 lyrics, but I still haven’t found what I’m looking for….
BTW, why do so many people misspell my name? I’ve seen everything from Balagi to Balaj to even worse.
I thought copy and paste was the easiest thing to learn about computers.
@Willie, First U2 reference I’ve seen on here recently. Fucking love them to bits mate. Favorite band of all time.
@CedarsDevil
Yes, I like people with that ability:) Me and alex will be good. He knows I love him.
willie oh thanks man you truly make me laugh!
@willierednut
The internet works in mysterious ways….
Balaji
Ya, Duncan must have been 19 or 20 when my dad met him, my old man was in his 30′s…. Words like ‘built like a brick wall’ spring to mind!
MG Good evening!
Thank you for sharing your poignant yet heart-warming memories so eloquently.
And on my way, I passed a Joshua tree…. It was beside the streets with no name.
Balaji – Guilty. lol, my bad, i’ll get it right from now on
Balaji
Spare that thought to Pink Floyd buddy!
Colbert
A United supporter is a friend of mine buddy…. Knowing you are one makes you my friend too….
Now go on, kiss and make up with smartalex, he is a true RED
that’s a harrowing tale, willie. sometimes you can’t make it on your own.
Balaji Sivaraman says: I have dyslexia my bad.
@CedarsDevil
Likewise.
And i’m not doubting smartalex is a true red, he most certainly is:) I just got a bit annoyed, but it was no big deal. I’m not one to carry grudges and I hope he isn’t either. I got love in my heart for all Reds, even the ones I sometimes argue with.
@smartalex; bros before hos?
So what are you lunatics up to?
willie my first concert was when I was 16 and It was AC/DC and UFO in 1978 with Bon Scott and Michael Shanker. wow what a night.
costas it is 4:20 where I’m at see you in 15 minutes.
Colbert – I’ll do this, with or without you…
@Zibbie, LOL!
Good Night lads!
I go to sleep hoping that tomorrow will be a beautiful day.
willierednut
Until the end of the world? Or just until new year’s day?
Colbert
Jesus loves U2. (Ha Ha – he doesn’t really, well, not after what you said. Just kidding! How would I know?) Anyway, U2 loves Jesus.
Won’t you be back tomorrow
Won’t you be back tomorrow
Will you be back tomorrow
Open up, open up
To the lamb of God
To the love of he who made
The blind to see
He’s coming back
He’s coming back
I believe it
Jesus coming
I’m gonna be there
I’m gonna be there mother
I’m going out there
And you’re gonna be there…
@Zibbie
Sure, go knock yourself out.
Have one on me. 
Need to start bashing Willie and his U2 with some Pink Floyd tunes…. Where is smartalex?
Need me some support here, we are being over run!
Colbert
Big of you buddy, smartalex has a big loving heart too…..
@CedarsDevil, Was about to go to sleep, but had to say this before I did, “Don’t we all?”
Often wondered how many post under different names the unreality of the reality of rom
Balaji – I copy and paste everyones name lol
@smartalex
Haha;) that’s more like it!
Which U2 song are you quoting? Not familiar with that one.
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That’s the spirit, Balaji. Goodnight friend.
@wayne – I just use “Fred”
Love is back amongst true REDS…… I can now take my injection
NURSE!
Fred
Where on earth have you been? Did you hear that United are linked with Young?
What a world we live in. Typing to others across oceans divide. Thermostatically controlled environments.
Cedars shot makes us all feel better.
Tomorrow Colbert. I’ll tell you tomorrow. All right , I’ll tell you now. Tomorrow.
Now, CedarsDevil, from this Saucerful of Secrets, we have Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict.
Zibbie
Zib off! hahahaha sorry I could not resist my friend….. You know that your user name gives me the chuckles
Evening smartalex Cedars Zibbie Clint Costas Balaji – everyone!!!
My broadband is fucked can only post few and far between – should be okay by Friday so I shall be in out
Thanks for reading and replying to the Senna piece – was at the movies earlier and watched Senna and it rekindled some old memories
Ayrton Senna thank you
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CedarsDevil – Hello my friend. Hope you are well.
Hehe, thanks for that!
Cedars LOL all good mate. Zib Head say’s olla!
MG
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nice piece.
Do they show hunting and fishing shows on the TV in the UK. Here in the US they do. Just wondering?
Zibbie = Mickey Rourke he he.
MG – Drop in anytime mate. Nice words on the great Ayrton Senna. He dared, were many would not.
Kings
I am well my friend, just hope Sir Alex has a master plan for beating Barca next season! After all that is our main objective right? The mere existence of our club hangs around that point
I wish there was someone on ROM called Luke. *Sigh*
By The way If Theres a 14 year old boy on ROM, That doesn’t know his real Dad & the mother is 28
& You Live in England
Ta-Da – I am Your Papii
Clint X – The Origins
Was a Good Day
Night Fellas
A Pink Floyd tune for TonyBee
I’m a King Bee
Buzzing around your hive
I can make good honey
Let me come inside
I’m young and able
To buzz all night long
You know I’m young and able
To buzz all night long
When you hear me buzz, my girl
You know some stinging’s going on
(Well, buzz some) I’ll sting (yeah)
wow reading back again. Balaji Sivaraman says: had a great point as well as others. Barca do not play a fancy football it is short passes a simple approach with great players perfected. In the US there is a all time great NFL team the Green Bay Packers from like 1960-1969 they won 5 NFL tittle IN 7 years, the last 2 being the 1st and 2 nd Supper Bowl. They ran the ball down the throat with 2 basic plays. A sweep and a power dive. Every one knew what was coming and nobody could stop it. Great players that fit a good system perfected over time is a hard combination to stop. Like Ernie Els loosing out to Tiger in 3 or 4 majors coming in 2 nd. I believe if Man Utd have played any other team in Rome and London they would have at least 4 CL titles.
GLORY GLORY MAN UTD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Night Clint
wille LMAO and my women just looks at me like she knows I’m crazy.
I ran into my old high school football coach today at JC Penny (they have a great Big & Tall) and we laughed together remembered good times. He had 3 hot daughters. I felt like Al Bundy remembering old times. Hand in pants now.
I’ve got 14 inches all round.
willie not wille wow see you all later and good things for all REDS!!
Likewise fred just wayne others have dual identities
@Cedars – Luke Young? Fuck me, is this the calibre of player we’re being linked with now? He’ll make a decent 7th choice right-back I suppose, but surely we have more pressing concerns, like central midfield?. Oh well. In Fergie I trust.
@Zibbie – I’ve saw a fishing show on one of the sports channels once but I don’t go looking for that kind of thing. I would imagine it was one of the only shows of its kind on TV over here. What are we talking here, Bassmasters?
LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Night Papii…..
smaralex – Thanks for that tune buddy, them U2 buggers were swarming all over us! hahaha
Laters Zibbie!
“I saw” not “I’ve saw”
Thanks Fred just wondered there getting popular here. I watch them when I nap.
Papii – sweet dreams!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15352253@N07/1619635164/
Bruce Wayne = Batman?
Fred
Actually 8th choice, seems Wes is staying, but like you say in Fergie we trust……
Come on Luke, we know you can do the business
CedarsDevil – does it seem that Wes is staying? I do hope he does!
Now we’re being linked to LUKE YOUNG? u’ve gotta be fucking kidding me.
smartalex
In all seriousness I hope Wes stays too……
Fred – If we signed luke young, does it matter, he adds depth to the squad and sometimes experience. We already have first choise full backs in rafeal and evra so its not positions we are looking to strengthen. Has long has it does not effect the numbers on who we sign has the engine room has to be strengthened
Liverpoo seems to have wrapped up 20 million quid for Henderson. Christ 20million
and we are replacing players who are croked, and ageing players.
Say we sign
de gea
luke young
a quality central midfielder
ashley young
and the players left were
VDS
kuszszec
brown
hargreaves
scholes
obertan
We have removed players who no longer can stay fit, or have the legs to play 40 or 50 games a season. Or they are just not good enough, the quality of the squad will have greatly have improved, to put us in good shape for the next 3 or 4 seasons
So wait, is Wes staying or not? Or was it just a cruel joke?
Danny, the Luke Young thing was a joke!
Apparently we’re after Phil Jones too. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Phil-Jones-Manchester-United-beating-Liverpool-Arsenal-Manchester-City-and-Tottenham-to-16million-Blackburn-defender-EXCLUSIVE-article745338.html
Slim – Seen it mate. The papers are saying, Liverpool beat us to his signing. I’m really really gutted about that one.
Something like that willie
Luke Young lol. Good grief….
…
@FITB – chill out, we haven’t been linked with Luke Young, just his brother Ashley.
rumours that nani is leaving for 20m to inter.
20m? are they serious?!
where do they have that rubbish from?
Luke skywalker.
I’d rather we sign Burt Young.
Got a sister called Adrain!!!!
@Zelh – straight from the horse’s mouth.
Sorry, I mean horse’s arse.
Fred – true but if its gd cover for the backline I dont mind. Like I said has long has it does not change the fact the engine room is sorted I will be fine. But I am delighted we look to have signed ashley young, for me he could be the signing of the summer
@willierednut
haha i’m so gutted right now, i mean whatever are we going to do now ?
Phil Jones would be a beast under Fergie’s guidance. Just like Smalling is becoming. Sign him up!
Phil Jones as a replacement for Rio?
what about smalling?
sounds like a lot of BS to me.
at least we didn’t waste money on henderson.
I think we will go for rodwell. Ferguson was always after him. And maybe another rabbit out of his hat.
If Sneijder want’s money up his arse he should play in the council house.
Modric will be a hard fight with that cunt Levy.
Phil Jones has a famous father.
willierednut – henderson is no better than the likes of carrick fletcher anderson gibson etc. DSo delighted we have not gone and signed him
Zelh – Jones could be cover for vidic, has you never know if vidic will pick up an injury. Ferdinand vidic smallen and brown does seem a little risky depth wise for our defence, has brown and ferdinand do pick up injurys, which could leave us with only smallen and vidic at the back
Dippers seem to like forking over vast sums of money for unproven kids.thank god utd have a top class youth system
fitb – Could be yes, but what about Evans? Still have faith in him.
wayne – I bet scousers already going mental cause they couldn’t sign young
Zelh – true evans wont leave, but it does worry me if we lose vidic to injury
interesting on the sanchez twist if its true, even though the rag is the sun. For those who want sanchez, if its true he wants united over barca has they have no deal in place
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3624050/Alexis-Sanchez-will-cost-Manchester-United-30million.html
On one hand, as Arsenal have shown- you can never have too many centre backs. And Jones does look a decent prospect, can play in midfield as well.
Saying that- I’m happy with what we’ve got back there atm. Rio, Vidic, Smalling, Evans, and I’d love to keep Wes.
The media is playing with our minds right now, all am waiting is for Sir Alex to come out and announce players we have signed, no matter who it is, all i believe is the gaffer knows best.. GGMU19!! One utd…
wayne – How you doing mate?
With regard to your thoughts on contributors posting under various names, it is feasible.
When Costas’ moniker was usurped some months ago I changed my username briefly to
“EliminateDuplicityNow!” and then changed straight back on the same thread. I have not tried it since, but likely it is still possible. Other methods are available, two cell phones being a simple way.
FEBRUARY 2, 2011 AT 12:46
EliminateDuplicityNow! says:
Thank you StR for deleting the false ‘Costas’ comments.
Can we take it that the glitch has been resolved?
We look forward to the ‘Return of the Costas’
FEBRUARY 2, 2011 AT 13:01
smartalex says:
Jeet, in honour of your deductive skills, you may collect
First Prize!
fitb – one thing in there is true and that is that sanchez rather wants to go in the PL to us than anywhere else, but the rest who knows.
You’re dreaming mate, sanchez is off to barcelona.. he’d be the better option than young but hey shit happens.
As for young being worth 20million, well surely that’s diabolical? overrated and overpriced, how great. one price for united.. another for other team’s, leaves me baffled and i hope sir alex don’t get him in but hey the rumour won’t go away.
@Sparkz – you have to look to the future; Rio is 32, Vidic is 29, Wes is 30. These guys won’t last forever. Fergie would hate to lose out on a prospect like Jones. You have to strike while the iron is hot. Should have got him last season when he would have been cheaper. I could tell from his debut (I think it was anyway) against Chelsea that he was the real deal.
Oh, I take that back. Rio turns 33, Wes turns 32 and Vidic turns 30 this season.
Never mind “happy with what we’ve got”, we have to build for the future. Jones is only 19.
Fred- that’s a good point actually. I would still like to see Fergie view Smalling and Evans as the future CB partnership- although this season could potentially be make or break for Evans.
But in the long run, you’re correct- it would defo make sense to have Jones. For the upcoming season however- I don’t know how Fergie will be able to pay top dollar for Jones and then not give him a decent amount of games.
He’ll be MINIMUM third choice behind Rio, Vidic and Smalling. And possibly even behind Evans, who will probz feel hard done by if he gets overtaken by him.
As usual the club cannot keep things under the lid and are making a fool of themselves. More or less confirming that De Gea had signed when he’s not and the whole world knows what our transfer targets are, I just fear it will end with us just signing Young and struggling to get a good keeper.
Another boring summer off the field is in prospect!
@smartalex hi mate yeah i’ve been attacked in the past and i knew who the poster was although he was using a different name and reading through some of the posts it becomes obvious.some name i’ve never heard before defending someone else,think it goes on all the time for different reasons.
interesting day today only two weeks out of the season everyone going snake already,pretty funny.
@swede full of shit as usual,de gea deal is already done nothing will be finalised untill after the international u21′s,the whole world knows our transfer targets,that’s a laugh in itself.utd get linked with ever player available or maybe available,sir alex puts out plently of red herrings,good chance the midfielder utd end up signing will not be the ones being linked with the club.
you’re such a fucking wanker swede
Samuel – united WE stand – Defiantly young will be a success, this is the same kind of treatment valencia got to some degree in summer 2009, and defiantly carrick got in 2006 and look how those 2 worked out. 17 million for young cheap has chips
they really should release fifa 12 now.
What are you talking about swede?
Fuck me the dippers really are a fucking joke. Twenty million for that frankenstein looking cunt Henderson. He is garabage. Gibson is as good. Got to laugh at Liverpool.
Phil Jones can play CB FB and CDM? The Vanane talk has died down. Wes might want to leave for first team play. Probably nonsense, but…. when Cory Johnny’s brother was sold to Hull maybe John is out the door as well. If one of Wes or John leave, a defender makes sense. Does DeLatt have a chance after his loan?
I’m going to make up another name here, he is going to love every thing I say……… cool, WTF some people !!!!!!!!!!!! lmao or should I cry for humanity.
Guys, Ferguson has reiterated he will spend this summer in order to stay ahead of the chasing pack in the Premier League and attempt to close the gap on Barcelona.
“I’m looking at possibly a couple, maybe three signings, which would boost our overall quality in the team,” Ferguson told Inside United.
“Of course, the way we’re looking at it is we have Ryan Giggs coming towards the end of his career and Gary Neville’s already retired.
“Edwin van der Sar announced his retirement and there are holes we want to plug in terms of the safety and security of the team in the next few years.”
By looking at those quotes by Fergie, I think that we would have de gea and young for sure. its worth noting that he mentioned about gary neville too. so maybe we would sign phil jones as well n it is also interesting that some papers r viewing that alexis sanchez is seen as the perfect replacement for scholesy. yes, i noe most of u would say that he is a winger but he can also play through the middle of the park. he certainly got the skills (he dribbles past opponents with ease with his stunning stepovers) and he can interchange with wazza as well as he is quite hardworking. so i hope the glazers can fork out 30 million or more to sign him=D
Now its £16m: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2000541/Randy-Lerner-stand-Ashley-Youngs-way-Manchester-United-nears.html
That will depend on his performance on his arrival….
Hello fellow reds…
Just got back from E3 and got a chance to get my hands on FIFA 12 and I gotta say it plays great. The only downside of playing the demo was that I could only play as Chesky or as Assenal….so, I took a piss and picked ’6-years-of-fock-ol’….and i still was able to enjoy it.
I now this post was kinda random, but some of the comments are even more ridiculous than this one….
@Devil310, You lucky devil, you… You were at E3, I was just drooling all over my computer table at the quality of games on offer. I cannot even explain how jealous I am of you right now.
@redrider and Devil310, Yeah, if you want to play the Football Manager game, then Fifa 12 would be a good choice for starters.
Leave the actual management to Sir Alex Ferguson. That is why we have games like Fifa and Football Manager.
Morning Reds!
“Over the nineteen year history of the English Premier League, Manchester United can easily claim to be the best team in England.”
http://soccerlens.com/manchester-united-19-the-premier-leagues-top-twenty-teams/71079/
wot pisses me off r player like fukin kagawa or wotever his name is bein lined up by the press as scholes replacement….if tht happens i will be bloody pissed off ,we need a world class cm as bad as arsenal need a fukin defender…and kagawa wont do us any good,he wont b half as good as park and park isnt a regular,only in big games coz he runs!
i hope to see modric young and de gea and bring thru welbeck and clev and tunni n pogba(who i think will b placed in reserves b4 first team) but possibly also like to see petrucci given a chance…
oh and to those who think nani will b sold….FUCK OFF!
So, I put on my song writer hat on now and I started writing a song. Is still a bit rough so I need your help with the ending….it goes something like this:
HEEEEN-DER-SON-SON-SON
HIS WORSE THAN DAVID N’GOG
HEN-DER-SON-SON-SON
NOW YOU’RE DALGLISH LITTLE CUNT
WAS IT 5? WAS IT 12? WAS IT 20 MILLION POUNDS?!!
……….
also another thing thts really getting on my tits is why were buying ashley young when we got a player who tore chelsea to bits when playing on the left and is a salford lad …danny welbeck..
am scared as to whats gonna happen to this lad as i think we might lose him and tht would be devastating as hes da brightest young talent to come thru da ranks we have had in years,and i can only see him gettin a chance down the left,but if young was to come where wd tht leave him….
i would rather see him run out down the left…as a second choice even…he would b good as is local…ahhh i dnt wna lose this kid…like rossi n pique who hav bcome big!
Javier Hernandez has indicated that his long-term future lies at Manchester United, because he owes Sir Alex Ferguson a ‘great debt’.
The Mexico star enjoyed a dream debut season in England as his 13 goals helped United to the Premier League title.
Real Madrid have been linked with a multi-million pound bid to take Hernandez to the Bernabeu this summer.
But the 23-year-old is determined to help United to further silverware in order to pay back Ferguson for helping his career.
Hernandez said in The Sun: “I’m very motivated after a great season with United.
“From now on I’ll owe a great debt to Sir Alex for bringing me to Europe. My dream has not changed.
“I want to win many titles to give back to the team that opened the doors for me.”
from f365
top lad chicharito is..
“Southampton will attempt to persuade Manchester United to part with two bit-part players plus cash for their teenage wonderkid Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.” May be something to this.
http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/251476/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-deal-tempts-Manchester-United-
Henderson ready for Liverpoool. So no need to worry about him comming to United. I sort of feel that he could have been a good signing….
@vilhelm
mate he hasnt done much at all to be worth 20 million
i dont know who conducts the business at sunderland
but he is a fucking genius bent 24 million and now this
GUTTED!!!
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2011/06/07/2521949/manchester-united-and-manchester-city-target-alexis-sanchez?
hahahahhahahahhaha at liverpool
made mugs in the transfer market…55 million pounds on carrol and henderson
carrol is a 10 million pound player while henderson is an 8 million pound player max….that means tehyve been robbed of 37 mill or so hahahahahaha…..imo henderson aint any better than cleverly and is very overrated…
55 million for carrol and henderson
or
ozil 12 mill,sneijder 12 mill,ronaldo (2003) 12 mill,chicha 6 mill,sahin 8 mill,carvalho 5 mill (chelsea to real) total = 55 mill
hahahahahahahahahha wot fools
As any one got a clue whats going on.
http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-united/6970302/Udinese-deny-Sanchez-deal
why dont we try and play valencia in the middle ? he plays there for his country. nani on the right, young on the left and carrick/de rossi/schweini in the middle with valencia *drools*
@Sachu
I hear you mate, just hope Fergie realises because I’m not sure that I could cope with any more ‘there’s no value in the market’ bullshit this summer and we end up bargain basement shopping again!
I still don’t see what Young would give us, if we are going for a wide player who can also play up top then Sanchez would be the man for me, he’s class.
@sachu
Sign him up!
Did ya know Villa sing
“He plays on the left, he plays on
the right, that boy Ashley makes
Ronaldo look shite.” Heres
Hoping they’re right
Sanchez looks set for Barca – we will never be able to match them.
Signing Young is hardly gonna close the gap is it! Especially when they are getting someone like Sanchez!
Hope we dont go getting random unknown players like Bebe and Obertan etc!
We need established Class!
Sneider
Nasri
Sanchez
Modric
These are the type of players we need to be looking at!
Nani / Young??? — Nani all day long!!!!
Ok,let clear some things about Sanchez here.
It seem most people here have not even seen him play.
Not saying we must sign him up,but just want to correct some impression about him here.
1) he’s 22
2) he loves United (but probably will end up playing for Barca cuz United are not fighting or dont want to sign him)
3)most importantly,he’s not a typical right winger like everyone here thinks,matter of fact he hasn’t played there since the World Cup,throughout last season he played in the middle behind a striker,and he can also play on the left cutting in.
He’s like a Ronaldo that can play behind a striker (not saying he is as good as Ronaldo at the monent,but i’m sure he will be).
Another thing I’ve been thinking about for the past few days because of all this Barcelona obsession here and how we need to buy the best players in the world to beat Barcelona.
Here is a hypothetical Rest of the World team comprising of the best players in their respective positions as I see it. I am using the Fifa World XI from last year as the base and replacing Barcelona players with the other players in their positions based on their world cup and past season performances and also overall Ballon D’ Or nominations for 2010. So, we could get the cream of the crop from the last year.
(P.S. Some of it maybe random because I don’t follow world football as much as some of you guys do.)
Goalkeeper: Iker Casillas
Defenders: Maicon, Lucio, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra (Can’t think of better choice)
Mid-fielders: Cristiano Ronaldo, Wesley Sneijder, Mesut Ozil/Xabi Alonso, Bastian Schweinsteiger/Arjen Robben
Strikers: Samuel Etoo/Didier Drogba, Wayne Rooney
Coach: Sir Alex Ferguson
Alright, some of it maybe random, but that is closest in terms of my limited research into the Ballon D’Or shortlist and personal interest in these players over the past season. If you think this is not the world’s best, then create your own team and tell me how they will fare against Barcelona.
Now, I want you to tell me, how this “perfectly” assembled, “world-class” squad will fare against Barcelona if they produce the same performance like they did on saturday.
My point being that it is absolutely illogical and counter-productive in thinking that just buying “world-class” players and putting them in the team will be able to win you stuff. That kind of activity has worked only once in the history of the game – Galacticos in the early 2000s.
Barcelona do not win stuff just because they have the world’s top 3 players. They win stuff because those 3 players along with the remaining 8 very good players play as a single, cohesive unit. The same way United did in 1999 and 2008. The same way Sir Alex is planning for us to play in the coming seasons.
We already have world-class with us (as in players who can make us ejaculate): David De Gea (I feel this is done), Nemanja Vidic, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Dimitar Berbatov, Javier Hernandez, Luka Modric/Wesley Sneijder (if they sign, they are world-class) and personally Darren Fletcher on his day is as good as game-breaker as any in the world right now.
Sir Alex is planning his buys based on players who will complement the above set and get us playing as a single cohesive unit. Apart from the already existing set of players who contribute to our play like Carrick, Evra, Giggs, Valencia etc.
Therefore, I don’t see a logical reasoning in people saying we “should” be buying the world’s best players and they “will” help us beat Barcelona because they are “fancy” and have a neat “bag of tricks”.
We should be buying players,
* who are going to complement the players that are already in our squad.
* who want to play for United and who don’t come to United just because they couldn’t get into Barcelona, Real Madrid or Chelsea for more money
* who fall within the wage bracket we already have in place
* who are going to add value to the squad as we fight on four fronts
Anyway, I said most of this already but I just thought it would be worth mentioning how the dream team would fare against Barcelona.
Sanchez is on 22, so hes young, hes not going to be overpriced i reckon you could get him for £25m and if he is anything like Ronaldo that cant be a bad thing can it, Sanchez Messi Xavi Iniesta, Villa and all the rest of them!!! Geezzz.
Only time will tell who and what we get! But im not holding my breath judging from the past few years!
Can anybody clarify whether Liverpool have paid £20m plus N’gog for Henderson or is it something like £13m plus N’gog (who they value at £7m)?.
@badger
mate we need a winger on the left side
and fergie probably wants to spend big on a midfielder maybe sneider
maybe he is not prepared to spend big on wingers
i think it will be fab business if we can get de gea young and sneijder
@BerbaGod
I’m hearing £13m plus Ngog. Though how Ngog is being valued at £7m is beyond me.
@red
i will be over the moon if we can get one among sanchez and sniejder
@kanchelskis
if ngog is 7 millon then michael owen is 70 million
i have to say i am quite pleased we havent made abid for henderson
if it was me id get Sanchez wing. Sneijder/Modric and De Gea
lol actucally id get Sneijder AND Modric!!!
@sachu
Yeh, me too. Medium-sized fish in a small pond.
When he started for England, he got completely found out. Had no impact on the game.
As Scott has said, if he joined us, all he’d do is join our ranks of promising young midfielders. We’ve got our own, and we’ll bring them through when the time is right.
If we’re going to bring someone into the midfield, we need someone who he know is going to start having a real impact on games immediately. Someone with experience of running games at the highest level. ie Sneijder.
kanchelskis
that does seem the deal. 13m + Ngog(7m) =20m or 18m Cash? Sunderland haven’t indicated which it is yet?
The only thing going for Ngog is his age.
@ kanchelskis – If that is the offer, Sunderland have been stung hard. Like you said how N’gog valued at £7m is an absolute joke! Think Scousers just wanted to sort it out before the U21 championships, we all know if he’s the star of this English team, his price would’ve gone up ten-fold. Personally think it’s not bad value for Henderson.
despite all these media talks about us signing modric, sneijder, nasri, adam n de rossi, we might not need any of them. we have morrison, pogba, tunniclife n cleverly stepping in. morrison n cleverly can play the creative role while pogba n tunniclife r capable of playing the ‘destroyer’ role.
although those players have great potential we need someone to step straight in and do the business, then gradually bring these youngsters though and into the team. So IMO we need someone like Snieder and Modric who are world class proven players and can do it on the big stage, Especially if we want #20 we HAVE to strengthen that center mid. Its very weak at the moment! And we got found out in the final and sometimes in the prem against “lesser” sides!
Some good news here, Mexico have released a 26 man preliminary list for Copa America and Hernandez has been excluded meaning He can rest and be fresh for next Season!
red – That’s the thing though, It’s not what you want, It’s the manager who decides who we sign. Let Fergie and Gill get on with the signings and then we can debate the pros and cons of those players coming in.
@Dandivine7
Why on earth isn’t he in their squad?!
King Eric says:
What are you talking about swede
Twenty million for that frankenstein looking cunt Henderson.
Haha, bloody brilliant that King Eric, cracked me up…..
Morning all true REDS
I see some are still obsessing about Barca! Oh dear
@Kanchelskis, He’s to be rested after the Gold Cup, remember next year, He’ll likely play in the Olympics plus World Cup Qualifiers due to start too
Pool are gonna blow there 20 million on henderson? oh dear, he is a decent player but never worth 20 mill, well we all know who will be laughing all the way to the bank.
It’s really 13 million for Henderson. N’gog is included in the deal. Think it’s real funny the dippers value N’gog at 7 million lol. What would Hernandez cost??
“Henderson’s likely arrival would make him manager Kenny Dalglish’s third high-profile signing”
20million for that kid thank you liverpool for paying over the top again. no value!
Play valencia in the middle? that’s as bad as o’shea being a striker, valenci is technically lacking to play there, could do a job but only if you really are desperate.
Dandivine7
Please link your “Mexico have released a 26 man preliminary list for Copa America”
Thanks.
Note to ALL
Please try to provide the back-up or source of information you reference.
Too often we are led up the garden path by absolute twaddle. Vague innuendos and false claims that are not supported appear in the various rags and are brandished here as fact, usually by attention seeking fools that do not bother with truth, only with self-promotion.
Legend in the making:
Javier Hernandez has indicated that his long-term future lies at Manchester United, because he owes Sir Alex Ferguson a ‘great debt’.
The Mexico star enjoyed a dream debut season in England as his 13 goals helped United to the Premier League title.
Real Madrid have been linked with a multi-million pound bid to take Hernandez to the Bernabeu this summer.
But the 23-year-old is determined to help United to further silverware in order to pay back Ferguson for helping his career.
Hernandez said in The Sun: “I’m very motivated after a great season with United.
“From now on I’ll owe a great debt to Sir Alex for bringing me to Europe. My dream has not changed.
“I want to win many titles to give back to the team that opened the doors for me.”
@ Willie – Forgetting about N’gog and that crazy-ass valuation. What you reckon bout £13m for Henderson. Good value?. N’gog is worth £3.5m on a good day. Chicha would be worth £77m!
Make that £177m!!
smartalex
United have agreed a fee for Messi with Barca, the world of football is shocked. Furthermore, it seems United have already signed Sanchez and De Rossi…. Talks are also advanced to sign both Ronaldo (Brazil) and Nadal…. Back up links to follow shortly!
How are you my friend? Totally agree with your point buddy
bill bob
Thank you for you sensible contribution at 10:20.
Perhaps you are not the total cunt that you always appear to be. Continue in this non-inflammatory vein, and perhaps your input will be welcomed, rather than abhorred. Personally, I have grown to hate you passionately, but as a forgiving man who prefers love and friendship I am absolutely prepared to forgive, and forge ahead with a more pleasant relationship.
Of course, now that you have opted for this friendly approach, to return to your previously hated ways would be tantamount to killing a good samaritan.
Please, keep up the good work. And again, thank you for you sensible contribution at 10:20.
the transfer market is already mental,fucking numbers being thrown around by the way sanchez is priced at 30mill,can’t by a piece of chewing gum for less than 2 mill.
fucking dippers were close to going bankrupt now been spending like drunken sailors fucking mugs,guess its a gamble to get back into the cl a club can only overspend and go into the tank for so long,spurs in the same boat with a ground that holds 36,000 and no real world wide appeal without cl the debt catchs up and ruins them.
in the prem there is utd,gunners,rentboys,dippers,spurs and city all chasing 4 places,rentboys and bitters have owners that will continue to go into debt because its all about ego and have enough money not to care,obviosly utd are in good shape,gunners also moving to the new ground has done wonders for their coffers.If the gamble doesn’t pay off for dippers and spurs doesn’t take long to go the way of leeds a team just can’t keep spending money and pay top wages without cl football,just a fact of top club football.
Did someone say transfer targets? http://mufcthoughts.blogspot.com/2011/06/transfer-targets-detailed-breakdown.html
BerbaGod – I actually think Henderson is more around 10 million mark. Sunderland are well within their rights to demand 13 million for him. They’re losing one of their better players. Overall, I think It’s a good deal for Sunderland. Decent money and a player as well. Albeit, the player is N’gog lol.
Hello CedarsDevil! I am well, thank you. How are you, my friend?
Latest reports confirm our greatest fears. Lokomotiv Moscow have derailed Barcelona’s plans for world domination by signing a new Station Master, and have extended Copperhead’s reign as conductor.
As this leaves us trailing in their wake, I suggest that Sir Alex considers moving Carrington to the Highlands, where caber-tossing and whisky swigging can lead us into the new dawn.
Gotta love the crack of Dawn, especially in the morning!
Once again we see if a young player puts on England shirt his valve go though the roof, 20m for Henderson it nuts, but Liverpool have gone a good deal with of loading Ngog which they picked up 1.5m resold for 7m; been looking around some of the Sunderland forums… they to think they been ripped off by Liverpool.
So is young now worth 20m?
@ Willie – IMO think the fools of the pool have got themselves a decent buy in Henderson at £13m plus N’gog. Thought Sunderland would’ve held out more than what they’ve got. Why Bruce would want N’gog is beyond me. Should’ve said £20m cash deal or no deal. Time will tell though..
smartalex
hahaha that picture was hilarious ……Mooooo
For years English players have been over priced, one reason for that is because they tend not to get attracted by moves to Spain or Italy etc…. That seems to be the reasoning in my opinion.
smartalex
LOL mate, cracked me up
@smartalex
Hi mate. He is a total cunt. He was here during the Ch..League final taking the piss. Don’t buy into his bullshit.
good chance sir alex had first crack at henderson, utd/sunderland realtionship is solid also utd have players bruce is interested in,utd could’ve offered a couple of players plus less money,so sir alex must think the valution is high otherwise utd would’ve signed him or it tells us.1 someone else is already lined up or 2.he has confidence in the young lads coming through.
Costas
I second that mate…. Do not be fooled lads…
Papii is in the house, do not call him Clint, call him Papii
Papii – That cartoon is hysterically funny! I did link it on RoM last year, but re-runs are good!
CedarsDevil, my mourning has broken as the crack-bird is choking on my stiff johnnie walker.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3625303/David-de-Gea-plays-down-his-move-to-Manchester-United.html
Update on the De Gea deal. Still saying the same things. Nothing signed, until after the the under21s tournament.
Hi Cedars.
To give everyone a break from the never ending transfer speculation, good to know that Pique scorers crackers.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJRcwKEf9tk
I’m getting increasingly annoyed with the David De Gea situation. Surely you would want your future sorted out BEFORE an international tournament, not after. It could distract you from your playing surely. But if the lad comes I’ll support him 100%, just wish it would be sorted. Can’t stand the end of the season. Need some transfers just so there’s something to talk about regarding United. On a brighter note, Henderson for 20 mil? HA!
smartalex
Make mine a stiff Chivas Regal any day of the week….. Still though, I am not that ‘smart’ to decipher some of them posts of yours! hahaha
wayne, howdy mate, your comment at 12:04 makes good sense (to me, at least.)
Costas, good day friend! I am expecting the worst, while really hoping for the best, as bill bob has ruined so many threads with bile I have stopped clicking on adverts as a personal protest against his continued presence on RoM. I really want the hating of our legends, players and club to reduce.
@willierednut, It’s the usual media and PR BS mate. I personally felt that it was done the moment Sir Alex came out and confidently stated that we were close to completion with the De Gea deal.
IMO, there is no point in stating that confidently to the media when you know it will kick up a shitstorm if you were not confident in landing him in the first place.
Morning all, well kind of..
Quick question to u all, SAF has said he intends to bring 3 players in one obviously a GK what would b ure 3 if you could choose from any players in the world?
To set u off this is my 3
>David De Gea
>Samir Nasri
>Alexi Sanchez
Everyones entitled to their own opinion even if u dont agree with their selection!
Folly to offer an olive branch to billybobshankleypaisley!
His card has been marked.
Young is a decent buy in my book – along with de Gea and followed by Wesley & young Rodwell !
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My mate smartalex is a decent bloke, but as Costas said, he was on here when we lost the champions league final. His stench stinks!
As for De Gea, I wouldn’t read too much into his interviews. I don’t think he is legally allowed to reveal his new team until July 1st.
@smartalex
Me too mate. But I am not expecting anything from him.
@samuel have you seen valencia play in the middle that you are dismissing him so ? he has tremendous stamina and pace could play box to box if he just improves his tackling. if we get young then either nani/valencia will have to sit and knowing fergie it will always be nani in the big games which is unfortunate. i prefer nani to young on either wing (no question on the right) so no thanks unless we somehow fit them all in (and not to the detriment of the team).
Willie
The land of Cedars is full of olive trees, but I am not offering any of their branches
@ Cedars – Ahhh Chivas Regal! A man after my own heart! The 12 year old is lovely, the 18 year old even more so but 25 year is out of this world!
CedarsDevil – hot babe suck me, I feel good!
Is that better?
FFS The Sanchez rumors are not true. Sanchez Watt is Not good enough for Manchester United, Why would we buy a arsenal reject.
Schneider at £35 Million also is another No Deal, C;mon 200K wages for a 37 year old???
Bernd Schneider would have been a good buy 10 years ago, Why replace scholes with a guy 1 year older than him. Some of the stuff shitted all over ROM & Papers are just Pathetic.
Who’s this Young Bloke as well? Anyone want to fill me in Please I’d rather Have That Dann Bloke who plays alongside Roger & John’s son.
smartalex – I am not that dumb! hahahaha….. Bloody love your posts you nut head
BerbaGod – The 18 is my personal favorite …..
Costas – yea waiting for fucking mendez to become his agent
Clint-IamYourPapii – What the hell are you talking about
Cedars – I’m in full effect mate. Don’t be offering anything!
@FITB, He is talking about Sanchez Watt who is a product of the Arsenal youth system and Rene Schneider who is 37.
He has gone completely mental mate, one of the side-effects of the off-season.
Apparently Jones is having medical at UTD!!
U guys asked for some evidence with all rumours??
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11670_6970750,00.html
Eastwood Clint of Papii origin – You shape shifter!
I fucking love this place! We all crazy, yo!!
I miss the good old days when you could come on RoM and have an informed chat about United with like minded fans. These days RoM is getting just as bad as the manutd.com forum.
Come on Phil! Bring Tom with ya!!
Willie – Fucking love this place too… Where better than to be with die hard Reds hey?
Ashley Young – 20 million
David De Gea – 16 million
Luka Modric – 25 million
Two threads of NOTHING counting to nearly 2000 posts over two transfer topics on Ashley Young – Priceless.
There are somethings money can buy. For everything else, there is ROM.
Who’s this Phil Jones? Where does he play in defence? If we do sign him, I suspect that him, De Gea, Young and a midfielder will be our transfers this summer.
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bchilds – Cheer up mate! We’re all just a little bored friend. Looks like we’ve signed Jones, so we can talk about that one lol.
@mahadev – you need more than just pace, power and stamina to be a great midfielder, that’s why the likes of legendary paul scholes, xavi, pirlo, seedorf have being magnificent, you require more than pace.
You need intelligence on and off the ball, good positioning, tactical awareness, passing range, timing of runs e.t.c none which valencia has apart from pace and power. he hasn’t got technical abilities to make an impact there.
Don’t get me wrong, i think valencia is a good player but just for the wings, he is too one dimensional and lacks flexibility hence why he can’t change wings with nani making united attacks predictable but good player nonetheless.
United require a player that is of high technical ability, a creative spark in the final third, a midfield player that will slip through passes for our strikers, this players are rare to find so i hope sir alex works his magic, he knows the team is weak in that area and i’m sure he is at work.
And I don’t expect the midfielder to be Modric or Sneidjer by the way.
@smartalex hi mate well last year utd were linked to henderson and supposedly bruce is interested in wes and gibbo so if sir alex rated henderson or felt we needed him you’d think a deal could’ve been easily reached.
We’ll sign a CM, but like you, I don’t think it’ll be any of those two. I prefer United to buy younger players anyway.
That was for Costas lol.
Seriously, we really don’t need an extra central defender with Smalling and Evans on our subs bench. A waste of money that could be used to shore up other more needy areas of our midfield!
bchilds – Spot on mate.
@Costas
Do you not pal? I think we’ll go in for Modric, Sunderland will use the Henderson money to buy Welbeck or Evans and we’ll then go for Modric for £25m – £30m.
Aww, come on people, we can do away with all the bullshit talk if you don’t want them.
But this being off-season, what better things do we have to talk about.
Transfer talk is mostly crap anyways.
We can talk about Sneijder, Modric etc. but Sir Alex will go and get Phil Jones for 18 million and we have shit on our faces.
We seriously need to lighten up during the off-season.
Come July and start of pre-season, I don’t think this place will be as relaxed as it is right now.
I think jones performance twice against united at ewood park may have convinced sir alex to buy him, he is young but him and smalling could potentially be a vidic and rio in the future, people saying we don’t need jones are clueless, when there’s a talent, you have to grab them and jones will be the future, sir alex is building for the future, great prospects.
I don’t think this will be the end of evans though, but he’ll need to step up big fucking time, competition next season will be intense, at the back is where we really are strong.
Now we need to get in creative midfield players, central midfield is the priority And then the wings, we only have two out And out wingers.
I got you willie.
@bchilds
It’s the papers that keep bringing up these names mate. Sneidjer is at an age where I believe Gill said that we wouldn’t spend a lot of money anymore and I doubt we would do business with Spurs anytime soon. Plus, if you spend 20 on Young or 18 on Jones, it makes sense that Sneidjer and Modric’s clubs will demand twice as much, lol.
Balaji – Spot on mate. Hair across the back side, springs to mind. Dammed if you do on here, and dammed if you don’t…
mufcmyreligion – thanks for the link you provided, seems to be good news. Fred, fitb and Sparkz have all promoted Jones on this thread.
CedarsDevil, you don’t fool me with your claims of ignorance! Your intelligence and sensible wisdom is always clear to see.
Think Evans mayb on wayout??
when modrics agent is calling a 20mill bid chump change don’t see how a extra 5 mill is going to seal the deal,said on a different thread if modric gets sold it’ll be 40mill +,theres talk of city and chelsea in a battle for rodwell for 25 mill,wtf
if sir alex feels the need to sign a midfielder might look at someone a little older as a stop gap for a couple of years,otherwise for a elite cm the clubs looking at big money for the transfer and wages.
Phil Jones new number 4?.
@ Samuel – Totally agree mate, Sir Alex will sign the best talent if he can even if it may seem we are strong in that position. Definitely not the end of Jonny Evans, thought he had a great finish to the season. Looked comfortable at left-back too. Competition for places is what we want.
smartalex – Thanks my friend, so is yours buddy
We sign Phil Jones for 16m. Could be the end for Evans.
@SmartAlex
Not a problem my friend, if theres one thing I hate is rumours with no facts or evidence! In having said that we all cant help but to follow the rumour mills!
If we do end up buying Phil Jones I would b surprised! I know nothing about him only seen him against us in the draw towards the end of the season where he made one outstanding tackle on one of our forwards which was impressive but thats all i know about the Phil Jones.
Feel frustrated that we going to end up with players with potencial to b quality but cant add value straight away!!
But as always, “In Fergie We Trust”
The only player I can see this being the end of sadly is big, bad Wesley Brown. *cries*
What about clint dempsey. Says he wants CL football. Last year of contract, scored 10-12 goals this season. Broke terry’s jaw and didn’t even draw a card for it.
@BerbaGod
Me too mate. As sad as it is, I think it’s the end of the road for Wes. Evans will stay and I am guessing that we will see him more often as a full back.
mufcmyreligion
How much “immediate quality” is needed at the reigning champions? Also, can we afford an expensive failure?
Far better methinks to continue with our proven recipe of improving quality players at United.
@ Costas – I think he should retire, don’t want to see him in another shirt. He is Manchester United through and through. Let’s hope his brother, Reece turns out to be half the player Wes was. I’d be more than happy with that. Still remember that breakthrough season for him when we won the treble! Brings tears to the eyes!
Maybe we could’ve offered £8.5m plus Diouf for Phil Jones?
@BerbaGod
I remember his debut I think it was vs Wimbledon when Wes went on a mazy run and unleashed a good shot – thought this kid is going to be some player!
Think Young is getting married this weekend so there may not be an announcement for a bit. There’s also a rumour that Nani has been offered as part of a swap deal for Sneijder so if that’s true it explains why we are going for Young. it’s all just paper-talk though.
Fuck Phil Jones I say we sign Eboue, friendliest man in football. I’ve seen him help opposition with cramp when his team are losing, and hand them water bottles from his own bench. Legend.
It is clear to see one cannot complain about things the club doesn’t do well because most here are wearing united-coloured glasses all day long. Try read my post above again as you all got it the wrong way and criticism on Uniteds transfer dealings over the years is very much justified.
Just remember when the muppets at MUTV took the jet home to be there when Ronaldinho was supposed to be signing for us.
LOL
bchilds – I thought Wes’s debut was against the Leeds scum mate?
@ King Eric – Spot on mate, back in 1998. The next season 1998/99 was the breakthrough season for him and we won the ‘real’ Treble that year. If it wasn’t for injuries – I think him and Rio would’ve been the mainstay of our defence. I love the guy!
Ashely young is not good signing for man united he is ruining so slow, and i am sure he cant do anything against Barcelona FC. man united should sign good forwards and fullbacks,Goalkeeper.