Comments on: Aston Villa Pay The Price For Cowardice

By: NicoQB

NicoQB — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:57:11 +0000

denton davey –
Cantona and Cole were hardly role models but you can’t compare their attitudes to that of Ronaldo’s. Ronaldo is the cream of the crop when it comes to acting spoilt. The only one that can give him a run for his money for me is Antonio Cassano. Of course I’m not talking about footballing talent.

By: denton davey

denton davey — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:53:27 +0000

“Be a proper fan and appreciate what we have. I’d take a petulant player who scores us 30 goals a season anytime”

It’s not like he’s the first – Cantona and Cole were hardly “model citizens”; they were individuals and their individuality was appreciated. It should be the same with Ronaldo – he’s an individual, and a bloody good footballer.

Sanj – “I don’t think we are over-reliant on ronaldo, i think he has quality players who are unselfish, constantly provide him opportunities, and let him take his chances (even when they are terrible and speculative)”

I think that your denial of Ronaldo’s unique goal-scoring importance is off-target. He does score goals, the other guys don’t score as often.

By: Marq

Marq — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 09:52:29 +0000

for this week, jus for this week, can all of you stop critisizing Ronaldo? If you can critisize someone who jus scored us 2 goals to bring us back into a game, I cannot imagine what you can say if we are on a barren run. Be a proper fan and appreciate what we have. I’d take a petulant player who scores us 30 goals a season anytime

By: Thereddevil17

Thereddevil17 — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:43:24 +0000

Great comeback…loved the match…we will never die…

By: sanj

sanj — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:21:03 +0000

i agree with everything you said, dazjoe, i just think some people are too harsh on the lad and are ungrateful for all his massive contributions to united. he is what he is- a cocky and arrogant, but he is deadly. i just think it is naive to say he needs to do this, he needs to do that… he isn’t going to. ronaldo goes on the pitch to do one thing- score. that’s what he does best. i agree that it can be poor for the team morale, but i think everyone on the team understands that ronaldo is who he is and they are willing to make up for his shortcomings (tracking back, winning the ball back when he loses it).. just another testament to the balance sir alex has amassed in our squad. what ronaldo lacks is always made up for by multiple players. however, few can match what ronaldo can do in front of net or in the air. he seems to want to be a perfectionist with his technique, hopefully he can start doing the same for his personality!

By: dazjoe

dazjoe — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:47:03 +0000

Sanj
Take your point, not every player’s the same and not every player plays like Rooney does, but I don’t think people are asking that Ronaldo races all over the pitch like a headless chicken ( not that I’m comparing Rooney to a headless chicken by the way!) but that he STOPS this hands on hips, pouting lips, sulky, 3 year old, look EVERY TIME somebody takes the ball off him! Yes he gets fouled sometimes, and yes sometimes the fouls go un-noticed but when you have lost the ball do not just turn and look at the likes of Park and Fletcher with a “slaves! Go retreive my ball!” look on your face. You don’t have to have the work rate of Tevez or Rooney, but at least try to be like Beckham or Giggs. As talented as they were, if they made a mistake they went back to make up for it. Ronaldo sits on the grass looking upset!
It can’t be good for team morale that we have a player who clearly thinks the nitty gritty of running without the ball, and tackling, is beneath him. This isn’t just a dig at Ronaldo, he is an amazing talent and his contribution to these last 3 seasons is out of the world, 85 goals in less than 3 seasons, 65 of them in the Prem, for a guy who isn’t even a striker?! Awesome. But he has got to lose some of the arrogant streak and accept that people are allowed to tackle him!

By: sanj

sanj — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:43:49 +0000

nico- totally agree with what you said about ribery, actually. i appreciate what ronaldo has done for our club, but i think selling ronaldo to madrid and getting ribery would be ideal considering another transfer saga is inevitable.

i don’t think we are over-reliant on ronaldo, i think he has quality players who are unselfish, constantly provide him opportunities, and let him take his chances (even when they are terrible and speculative). and how many times do we see one too many passes or flicks instead of a simple finish? we would have more goals scored as well as goals from our other midfielders (carrick especially) if they just took more shots at goal when presented the opportunity and stopped being overly fancy (though i do love the fancy goals). rooney will learn to bring the poaching aspect a little bit more into his play with time, i think. he’s got it already, actually, but the lad runs all over the damn field and always wants to be on the ball.

also, i hate to say it, but i think nani needs to go. he really hasn’t made any progress, in my opinion. he gives away possession, his crosses are terrible, i don’t know how many times he crossed a ball directly to a villa player- even carlitos didn’t move. you know it’s a poor cross if carlos isn’t attacking it like a rabid dog.

By: NicoQB

NicoQB — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:26:42 +0000

seanmc26 – wish that everybody could see what you and I can see.

sanj – For 70 min he couldn’t be bothered. Yeah, and that attitude stunk. We all know that if he wants it he can be the best player on the planet, ahead of messi even. He’s that bloody good. But suppose his shot was a little bit off by a a foot or two. Picture it: No goal.
Would have Ronaldo been exempt of criticism? Most people agree that he couldn’t be bothered for large parts of the game.

And just to show my point of view, I’ll take a Ribery capable of providing twice the number of assists instead of the one man show Ronaldo. Many people agree that we were over reliant on RVN when he played for us and it hurt our teamplay. Well if Ronaldo continues to play like that, we’re going to end up with that same situation.

By: sanj

sanj — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:13:30 +0000

also think pat deserves a lot of credit, he seems to have turned the corner after two subpar performances. his tackle in the box right before macheda’s wundergoal could have potential saved the game for us… he also won the ball to start our move for the goal.

i can understand slagging ronnie on other occasions, but how could you today? the lad kept us in the game- think he showed why he is the best in the world. the best only need one chance to change the game- ronnie did it twice in one game. he is not tevez, he is not rooney- he is not going to track back, he is going to pout, he is going to stay on the ground for too long. get over it. i cannot understand why everyone expects all the players to play exactly the same way. you have to take the good with the bad. i’ll take his shortcomings in exchange for his class and composure in front of goal. when we need goals, he is capable of scoring when no one else is… tevez didn’t even get a sniff of goal today. tevez was tracking back and winning the ball, but couldn’t score today- like i said before, you take the good with the bad. ronnie didn’t track back but scored TWICE. you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

get off his back- the boy dreams of playing for madrid, there is nothing we can do about it. seems to me like people are just looking for reasons to dislike him because he wants to go to madrid. whether or not you like him, in my opinion, he has done enough to put his name alongside some of the best to wear a united shirt.

By: seanmc26

seanmc26 — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 00:53:33 +0000

I have defended Ronnie all season but here goes Boys your not going to like this Cr7 was shit for 70 mins yes he scored 2 but he couldnt be bother nearly all game except for just b4 he scored his second he wasnt even fouled that much in game. If he could just show his passion for 90 min instead of 10 every1 would have little doubt of his commitment, it just pisses me off that he does nothing most of the game and still scored 2, imagine if he had a fraction of the desire that Fletcher had today nobody could justify Ronaldo bashing maybe even ABU’s, i dont know i just hope today he woke up and gives his all for our club instead of looking like he’s going through the motions. I just a shame that players with not even fraction of his talent can play better rhan him