“I have to admit it took me a long while to get over it. A lot has happened since and it’s gone now but it took me a good few weeks, even a couple of months, to get it out of my system. We played so well that day and for them to get such a late, late goal was very difficult for everyone to swallow. So we’d like to get our own back for that. We’ve only lost twice all season, despite everything that has been said and written about us, and that was one of them, in the 99th minute at Old Trafford. I think everyone else, apart from the referee, had stopped their watches by that time. It was well over the time, we know that. But we’re doing OK and we go into this match in good heart. It seems like a long time ago now and we have to look forward. We were gutted with the way it went but we know we have to defend better in those situations on Wednesday night and keep going right until the whistle.”
1. City were shit that day. If not for three defensive errors by United, the score would have been 4-0. We gifted them three goals and they still managed to lose! We had double the amount of shots on target, more than double the amount of shots off target and double the amount of blocked shots. We had 11 corners to their 1, we had a superior passing completion rate (79% to their 72%) and a far superior tackling success rate (86% to their 69%) and finally, we had 60% possession to their 40%. If that was City playing “so well”, I’d hate to see what they looked like on a bad day! They were dreadful. (see Sky Sports for stats).
2. Despite Sir Alex Ferguson constantly getting ripped apart for pointing out when correct injury time hasn’t been played, it appears as though there are no holds barred for City players. Regardless, even without the stupid exaggeration of 99 minutes, Given is wrong to point to the injury time. I can only assume Shay Given wasn’t watching Match of the Day 2 after our victory, otherwise he wouldn’t embarrass himself with such claims, as they broke down, to the second, where the injury time came from.
Craig Bellamy scored on 89 minutes, 54 seconds, with the “minimum of four minutes injury time” being announced as he raced towards the City fans. The City players then went on to celebrate for an incredible 56 seconds before the game could be restarted.
Anderson was then replaced with Carrick, meaning another 30 seconds was added.
MOTD2 worked out that the total time allowed should have been 95 minutes and 26 seconds. The time they allotted did not include Given’s time wasting for a goal kick after Wayne Rooney shot high over the bar. Giggs, as the captain, spoke to the referee about this whilst Given was still messing about. The referee pointed to his watch and then the goalkeeper finally took the goalkick.
Just think, if not for City’s excessive celebrating and if not for Given’s ridiculous time wasting, the final whistle would have blown long before City welcomed Michael Owen in to the box to score the winning goal, which was scored on 95 minutes, 27 seconds.
If you had any doubts before, Given is certainly at the right club. Deluded and bitter, just like the rest of them!
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Was so angry at given that day
What a twat
lol at your last Sentence too scot
another beauty scott… love ya man.
I tell you what Scott……have a look at matches two weeks prior to this match and two weeks after and find me one game where there was time added on for goal celebrations….You might actually find one…that is Liverpool vs Chelsea at the bridge after the Manc Derby……guess who reffed it……one Martin Atkinson….backing up himself….no other ref in the PL for three to four weeks has added time on for goal celebrations…if memory serves me correctly Arsenal were involved in a game with 6 goals….of which 4 were in the second half with substituions a total of 4 mins was played…explain ??? Motd2 might of come to your rescue accepting the refs explanation but a little bit of research would of proved that he is the only ref that is providing this extra time !!!!!!!
Great goolkeeper. Overall, an utter cunt.
given is a bellend. I still remember him turning towards us in the stretty celebrating when it was 3-3, only for owen to have other ideas. sour graphs given?
Fact is, City celebrated for so long after Bellendamy’s equaliser because they thought they had got a point. And that is another reason why they can not yet be considered a great team. Great teams would try and get a winner
Good one!!! 99 minutes for sure….;-)
Hahah so so bitter. “We played so well that day” made me chuckle considering we dominated the game from start to finish. That one goal from Owen has more than justified signing him for me.
Colie – can you name a team in that time that has spent practically a WHOLE MINUTE celebrating a goal?
Do “a little bit of research” on that, but I’m sure you will find there probably haven’t been many players or teams who have celebrated like they’ve just scored the winning goal in a cup final, like your players did at Old Trafford.
@Colie
So what if he is the only one? At least that proves he is consistent and he didn’t set out to ref in favor of Man Unted. The amount of injury time awarded if left to the referee to decide and no one else. We had an incident against Villa where we had 6 substitutions and Villa players going down like chicken, yet he only gave us 3 minutes of added time.
Besides, if Bellamy celebrated for 4 minutes, would Atkinson be forced to blow the whistle for full time straight away?
4-3 Mate, 4-3! Loved the analysis, Scott, right cheered me up after Sunday.
We were lucky that day.The referee allowed play to continue till the 96th minute.Had the roles been reversed,Fergie would have questioned the referee’s integrity yet again !
Referees seldom consider the time spent on substitutions during stoppage time but on 20th Sep 2009,we saw an exception.
Have you ever realised why quite a few managers make substitutions during stoppage time?Is it because they are making a tactical move?Or is it because they want to defend a scoreline by making a substitution that would bite into the stoppage time?
If you aren’t completely insane,you will have answered the latter choice.
There’s an expression for this sort of defeat; “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”. City are not used to winning against big sides in big games and they simply threw away the lead Utd so generously gave them. I seem to remember that Utd gave a masterclass in how to pass the ball in the second half giving City little or no time to get into the game!
When we meet them again all we will need is 4 fit defenders and our strikers to be sharp – it won’t be anywhere near as close this time. As for Given, he has been good for club and country for years but he has a frustrating habit (from an Irish point-of-view) of saving the spectacular strikes and letting in the easier ones. He is not a top class natural talent and frankly, looks a bit overcoached!
What a cunt, lol meant to be a city player
so colie, ur point is that the ref does his job properly but the others don’t? Thanks for clearing that up. Thanks for proving the ref was right. Thanks for proving what sir alex has been pointing out for ages, that not enough referee’s know the rules regarding time added on. Pleasure having u on here fighting our corner. Pity the shitty players have never been told to play to the end whistle. Then again the mercenaries probably figure they’re only paid for 90 minutes so not doing it for free hey!
that’s the beauty, winner on 95 min 27 seconds. wouldn’t be much fun if owen were to score on 92nd min. nope, will not accept that. will fucking slate him if he had done that. 95m27s juz nice, not a fucking second less will be accepted. that’s how things are done at man utd, suck it colie.
I tell you what Scott….most goal celebrations last thirty seconds to forty….this one lasted nearly a whole 20 secs longer therefore time must be added on for every goal celebration during the game……as I said time was added on for every goal celebration in the game not just Bellamy’s so where was this magical idea that time is now being added on for goal celebrations…..!!!!!!! Ps……you also claim you handed City three goals without mentioning the fact that Mr. Atkinson gave utd two free kicks for two fair challenges….one from Richards on Evra where he clearly got the ball before making contact with the man…and secondly in the build up to Owens goal… a Free kick given to Utd for a challenge where Tevez quite clearly gets the ball ahead of O’Shea and if anything should of been a free to City…..but hey let’s forget about the minor factual details…something Utd fans have earned a great reputation for…..
99 minutes – nearly as hilarious as watching him shit himself trying to keep Fletch’s header out for the second goal.
Fucking city cunt can’t seem to count…
He’ll not have any problems counting none of the trophies he won’t be winning the fucking bitter scum.
Typical bitter bastard. Hope someone breaks his neck
Sorry the Richards challenge on Evra led to Fletcher’s header from the free kick….apologies for leaving that out….I wasn’t just crying over a free kick..it was a foul that led to a goal..a bit like Fletchers tackle on Cashley Cole in the Chelsea game where Fergie had a good whinge….double standards if you ask me…..
Altonian,
For me, bottling it against Leeds completely cancelled out his City winner. We bought him to come on and score chances like that, not produce an airshot.
Colie evidently no logical explanation seems to be penetrating your head but for arguments sake here’s explaning the same thing to you again. The 4 minutes added time was prior to Bellamy’s goal..the ecstatic celebrations ate the entire first minute of added time. Anderson substitution means another 30 seconds. Plus general time wastage by the City players so the goal at 95:27 was perfectly within the legitimate time. The Arsenal game didn’t have those 4 goals in injury time..besides both teams in that game were running on with the game and not trying their best to halt it. More importantly its about justifying whether the time added on in this game was correct (and that it was), not whether the Arsenal game had the right amount of time added on. But I don’t think logic would make any sense to you..three months on and still bitter!!!
colie why are u on here fucking moaning about ur bitter team kid, you should be more worried about going another 34 years of fuck all..
p.s given is a crackin keeper but a typical bitter blue like you
Why don’t people realize that time added on is for both sides and not just one? I’m sure if city had scored they wouldn’t have been complaining.
ginger18legend
thats because city are a small minded club and were estatic with a point but owen and united had different ideas
Hasan the Four mins added included time for the three prior goals in the second half numbnuts…..and the rest was for only three subs made……get it…..then one sub made during time added on…another 30 seconds and a minute for Bellamys goal celebration…..I am not denying the eplanation….what I am wondering is why no other game for the two weeks prior that I checked and two weeks since included time added on for goal celebrations….so where did this come from….was it just made up that week by Mr. Atkinson and did he inform both sides he would be doing this…..because as is well known…time added on is for injuries and subs….hence it was originally called injury time…..not injury and goal celebration time…..all of sudden Fergie has another excuse for his extra 20 mins when he’s losing or drawing…..or like against Leeds…..no excuse but still claims there should of been more time……they would still be playing if Fergie was reffing….and still not of scored. !!!! Ps Not a bitter blue…just can’t stand the crap that utd fans go on about when presented with the facts and as plain on the nose on their face and still deny it…..Unreal…you lot.
colie
just do us a favour and fuck off back to your bitter blue blog, much snow in stockport?????
Get over it Colie, in the end the better side won. And anyway it’s not as if the referee gave us a last-minuted penalty: City could have scored during added time too but they didn’t.Added time was not just for United, it was for city too. You scored 3 on the day so why couldn’t you score one more? If that had happened then NONE of you would have opened your trap.
colie, just have a look at the rules fella. There can be time added on for ‘excessive’ goal celebrations. You pointed out most goal celebrations last for roughly 30 to 40 seconds, anything more would be excessive, hence the time being added on. Personally, don’t think the time should be managed by the ref.
Typical bitter. Absolutely delusional. Next he’ll be talking about winning titles…..
Why do people forget that whatever the added time may be, it is for both teams. No one had prevented city from attacking in those 4 minutes. Those 4 minutes were for both teams and most of the times when city got the ball they gave it away.Just shows by blaming added time city players and fans are just stating the obvious.Small club with a small mentality. If you had so much confidence you could have gone for the win knowing United would commit more men forward in search of the winner. City were playing for a draw and paid the price for it in the end. had they been positive they could have got something from the game
i would talk about winning, but were playing kids and they will play a cup final team.
sorry to say that united are in decline
Nice one Scott!
ozzmufc – In decline. Why is that fella?
Do some people JUST go on what the papers say? Odd
ps Please remind me how our “kids ” got on in this competition last season.
Lol. 99th minute? Get your facts right you bitter cunt. Fully deserved win for us in that game. Hopefully we’ll be less generous in the CC by not gifting them goals as we have done in the derby.
ozzmufc – hmm interesting on your take on decline? well for me the word decline has lost all meaning same has contracts players sign. If I had a pound for how many times united have been deamed in decline I would be a millionaire.
- Decline is an interesting word and debate, what does decline mean? it could mean many things? decline for united is losing in an FA cup 3rd round to a league one outfit, not beating teams 4 or 5 or 6-0 and not entertaining the fans enough, despite united are in europe and in the title race and are still premiership champions for the past 3 seasons.
- or decline means? not competing for league titles, having title and trophy droughts that last 4 or 5 years like in Arsenal’s case, or in liverpools case for championship droughts 2 decades. or going bankrupt selling players and finishing midtable or relagated like we have seen in leeds case, that is the difference between uniteds decline that so many claim united are in and what decline is.
- If people think united are in decline did people see the 70s and 80s of united, people forget we went 26 years of not winning a title and we got relegated we are currently premiership champions. Can you imagine what united fans had to go through with the scousers winning everything, some have you have not even seen what decline of united really is.
Time will tell if united are going down hill? but like I said still champions of england for the past 3 seasons and they can still retain the league title.
sorry it is a long post and I went on and on but it had to be said.
@ Colie
Dry your eyes mate!!
Colie, who the fuck celebrates that much when they have only TIED? Maybe is Bellamy had scored a goal to win, I could have understood celebrating almost double the time a normal celebration. But the City players absolutely lose their shit about tying?? Tells you a lot about their ambitions. But what can you expect from a team that is purely there for money.
As for Given, I’m glad he got fucked over now by Henry.
another great column,this scott man is brilliant love ye man your stuff is great
“I have to admit it took me a long while to get over it” – Any longer than it took you to take your goal kicks whenever City were level? He took the piss with his time wasting.
We dominated them for the majority of that game. Being handed two of your goals and sitting back after each doesn’t equate to playing so well.
In fact, that’s what they persistently did during their run of draws. For a club that had invested primarily in attacking talent it was astounding how negative they were under Hughes. The game at our places was only a sign of things to come.
I’d have him in our team tomorrow given(!) the chance.
so colie your telling me there were no fouls committed in the 2nd half you thick cunt! now fuck off and try to come up with another why you lost the game
ozzmufc is a prick and only goes on about how ‘bad’ we are this season, despite sitting nicely in second, into the CL knockouts and LC semis. Yawn.
Good to see you thick mancs can read……Not a blue….never have been…so how about trying to read before commenting you ignorant retards……..but some good repostes there….apart from the fact you all ignored the main point, in that not one other game had time added on for goal celebrations for games prior too or after the utd game…..are you the only ones allowed this time to be added……and whats Fergie going on about time added on for the Leeds game….explain that one……Five mins was given and yet over 6 mins was played and he wanted more…..for what ???? Because the it took the linesman 5 secs to get down the line for kick outs…..because the physio was tying his shoelaces…soon he’ll be asking for time added on because the announcer took too long to announce the names of the substitutes as they were being made during the game……going to Old Trafford will be like going to the Super Bowl soon enough…..a game that lasts for three hours…….Lol..I crack myself up….You lot are Brilliant.
Colie
That is the minimum time added incase you dont know and it is for both teams however the priorities of the teams are different as they were for City after they got that 3rd goal and were playing for a draw instead of a win and rightly paid the price for that approach.As for Sunday SAf was unhappy because there were 5 substitutions, Leeds players were sleeping on the ground at every chance rather than getting on with it and there was an incident that took place where players from both sides were involved that went on for nearly 2 minutes with the refree lecturing the players. So a lot of time was wasted.
The fact that the time added is “minimum” says it all. The ref can play for half an hour if he wants. Its up to the players to concentrate
Some interesting points being made here,Colie’s main arugment is that no other game apart from the derby had added time for goal celebrations.
While others argue monotonously that the added time was for both teams.
I remember last October when we drew 2-2 against Sunderland,Stewart Gardner wrote on the blog of the official website claiming Alan Wiley didn’t play the required stoppage time.I think around 3 mins of stoppage time was to have been played and Wiley blew his whistle around 93:05.Wiley didn’t play the required amount of stoppage time my arse.
BigL said:”so colie your telling me there were no fouls committed in the 2nd half you thick cunt! ”
There were fouls committed by the Sunderland players when we played them weren’t they?Tell me why Wiley didn’t take that into consideration when we were playing in stoppage time?
The plain truth of the matter is that no referee except Atkinson did that this season on that day.
If you know any other referee who did what Atkinson did on 20th September 2009,please do tell me.
Drew 2-2 against Sunderland last October? No we didn’t.
Colie – It wouldn’t have been so obvious on tv but the Leeds keeper was taking the fucking piss. It took him two minutes to take a goal kick. Proper time wasting.
Ashish – Why are you sticking up for the bitters? Strange.
Colie – hmm your not a blue but you make excuses for city when united should have won 8 3 the injury time winner is a way for shitty to paper over the cracks.
First I would like to point out at this so called City keeper that maybe if it wasn’t for him wasting time during the 90 mins it might have been a different story but this thing of time wasting just went against them no matter what they say. This is the truth !
Second I would like to know how on earth this guy suddenly started worrying about City? May be because he started playing for them yesterday?
BULLSHIT…………….
oi collie if u r a true football fans u wouldnt write a comment like an idiot. it doesnt matter how many minutes added on end of the game total minutes given to both teams simple as that. as ur complain i was thinking the ref told man shitty players only play manutds half not man shity’s half. what an idiot u r. stop whinging and get over it as we do, how many scoring chances been taken away by refs and how many un awarde penalties cost our game and points. shut the fuck up and go to ur shity forum.