Frank Lampard
“It’s just a bit of luck and it was a good game for us to win. I think it was a foul looking back at it. You play on until the ref blows the whistle. I don’t think any player would have kicked the ball out, you’re entitled to shoot. That’s what United did in the first half, but the referee stopped them and when Ballack went down in the second half they were complaining that they couldn’t carry on.”
Michael Ballack
“I have to be happy that the referee didn’t blow because maybe I blocked him a little bit. If the referee gives a foul it would have been okay as well, but he decided not to. It was a bit unlucky after that because they conceded the goal.”
Sir Alex Ferguson
“If the referee sees it properly, it’s a red card. He’s elbowed him clearly. The referee’s in line and had a clear view so Ballack’s lucky. But he’s made a rod for his own back. He’d stopped the game twice already: when Nani was down and on a second occasion when Ballack went down. We’ve seen that before with him. I spoke to the referee [about that previous incident] and he said it was serious and Ballack needed treatment, though he was up straight away.”
Man Utd News 24/7
sore losers ?
Blur – Cheating classless cunts?
I see the ABU machine is in full flow already. Some writer from the times or mail on talkshite slagging “Ferguson” off to fuck for daring to criticise the Ref.
Ballack can go fuck himself! Evra always seems to be involved in controversy with Chelsea in one way or another!
incase noone seen the video of this comment
bollack said it with a huge smile on his face
and how come the ref doesnt come out and say something he was so wrong in what he did If a player is in serious distress or may have a head injury, the referee should blow his whistle and restart the game with a proper drop-ball. Otherwise, get on with it. Nothing is more likely to bring a player to his feet than the sight of the action continuing; conversely, nothing is more likely to make him stay down than the certainty that it will be halted.
Ballack have always been a childish cheating German, as how Lehmann has always been……. Big figure but small heart and brain. Suits the jersey he is wearing.
Fat Lampard’s comment sums it up. If the ref stopped the game because of Ballack’s minor injury (note: not head injury like the rules state) and at the same time ruined our attacking build up, then the ref should have followed the same line and do the same when Evra was down (note: with a head injury). I doubt anybody would be talking about this incident if the ref hadn’t stopped the game for Ballack just minutes earlier. In my opinion the ref should have let the game continue in both incidents, but since he didn’t with Ballack he shouldn’t have done it with Evra, that’s bias.
…and Ballack didn’t block Evra “a little bit”…he knocked him to the ground.
I wonder what would have happened if Chelsea were in the receiving end of this incident. Would Ballack do another referee sprint? Would Drogba’s eyes pop out of his head again? Would Terry cry?
It’s the community shield for fuck sake. Yes their goal shouldn’t have been allowed but neither should Wazza’s for offside. Swings and roundabouts.
It was definitely a foul. Fuck off you cockney cunts.
Pete.
ok…I’ll be honest…I have nothing against chelsea fc whatsoever but i despise Michelle Ballack….I still cant forget his first press conf when he went on record saying ” Utd came in for me very early but i realized that i have more chance of winning the CL with chelsea”….ohh ya…bollocks…hw many CLs did u win after that…I admire drogba..heck i even admire JT but i dont have even an iota of respect for this Titmeister!!!! just burn in hell!!!!
MUFC THE RELIGION – What. Rooney was ON side!
You can bet that if a united player had elbowed a chelsea player, there’d be a bloody FA investigation with a ban to follow – but it’s chelsea so as usual they’ll turn a blind eye to it. Loathesome team and shite fans.
Times like this that I wish Keano was still playing…
The problem with Ballack is he did things like this constantly last year too. He wasn’t even much of a player either last season with most of his job seemingly to break up opposing attacks whatever way he can.
He is one of the dirtiest players in the entire premiership.
@blur
Yeah it is sore to lose like that, even if it is the sheild or whatever. It is always hard to take when players cheat or refs cock up, and it has a direct impact on the game. I’m sure Chelsea would feel the same if it was the other way round
ghtt.got the tickets mate? as for balllck he is a fucking asshole bastard.rot in hell you cheat.hope he never wins the champions league or a major wid germany.
@Blur
We lost on penalties. I’m happier than you should be. Your team let a 92nd minute goal in.
king eric,pls go watch the match.rooney was obviously offside…and you’all are sounding so childish right now.you los simple and short.the referee didn’t stop play so stop complaining.worse things have happened in more crucial circumstances…eg,CL semifinals last season.chelsea barca.
Just went on a Chelsea blogg (http://thechelseablog.org/2009/08/10/chelsea-2-2-manchester-united-dodgy-goal/) and this is what they had to say
“From the ref’s perspective, you’d have to say he could argue that because United had come away with the ball before Carrick lost possession, he was playing the advantage – although from that position it’s hard to see what the advantage would’ve been exactly and to be fair to United, Fergie has a point that Foy had indeed stopped play for a much more feeble challenge from Evra on Ballack, so his consistency is questionable.
Michael Ballack, ignoring the point about him going to ground too easily just minutes before, holds his hands up to the foul, saying “I have to be happy he didn’t blow but I think I blocked him a little bit and if the referee gives a foul it’s okay as well. He decided and he didn’t give the foul, but it was a bit unlucky after that (because) they conceded the goal. I kept on playing but then I didn’t have the ball so I couldn’t see how injured he is. It’s for the referee to decide, it’s not our choice and that’s it.”
I’m not even going to dispute the ref got it wrong, it was a blatant foul on Evra – not helped by the fact Ballack had already conned a free kick for a nothing challenge – but what about what happened after? Were we right to carry on and score the goal? Our players certainly looked a bit iffy about celebrating but had they actually done anything wrong?
Taking the rules as they stand, the ref had played the advantage because United were in possession. We’d won the ball fair and square, there was no whistle, so we played on. Nothing wrong there unless you want to question bad sportsmanship. There was a player down, he’d taken a Ballack elbow and whilst his jump up once United conceded didn’t look like he’d sustained a head injury, Chris Foy wouldn’t have known that when he went down – but then neither would we.
It’s not an easy one because whilst the rules seem clear enough – you play to the whistle – half the time players do and half the time they don’t. Would United have played on if the situation had been reversed? Probably.
I guess the bottom line is it just doesn’t feel all that comfortable scoring under those circumstances. But when it comes down to it, the ref got it wrong, we took advantage of his mistake and on this occasion I’m glad it went to penalties”
So why is it that even a Chelsea fan can see Foy’s error and an idiot like Bollocks owns up to it being a foul and yet still crappy Foy doesn’t blow for a foul and stop the game?
Then when SAF complains all the papers think he’s just whining, sore looser etc, when in fact he’s spot on. i was listening to TalkSport radio and they had an ex-chelsea player, and some other pundit Ronnie Irani (who claims to support Man U) going on about it not being a foul, then you get Alan Brazil who also agrees. What idiots! makes my blood boil why these people and ex footballers don’t have any sense.
I’m not saying we are innocent when we play or sometimes we get the rub of the green on some decisions but call it for what it is. not make excuses or pretend like it wasn’t a foul. that’s what i’ve been reading in the papers and a lot of their bloggs today.
i hope the referee association is looking at this game and the performance or non performance to be more accurate of Foy.
Its the community shield, and we only lost on penaltys so i couldnt give a fuck but chelsea as a team really are classless.
I like the trip down to stamford bridge, i dont really mind there fans considering and i like their manager so im not just saying this to have a go at them, but as a team of players they really are an unlikeable bunch of twats ashley cole,ballack and drogba especially. The ref was a fucking tit aswell and its his fault for the goal yesterday because even though chelsea showed no class in what was supposed to be a friendly match for charity no matter what chelsea were going to do the ref should of stopped the game just like he did for ballack who was clearly not injured. so it looks like everyone from all teams will have yet another season of complaining about refs making stupid choices.
Look Ballack cheated blocking Evra on the shoulder, Evra wanted the foul feigning a head injury which he clearly didn’t have and the referee showed his contempt by playing on.
Premiership football summed up in two incidents, both bang out of order, both the worst aspect of the cheating and diving that goes on to win at all costs.
SAF grow up, focus on why the team capitulated in the 2nd half having been in the ascendency of the first.
If there are to be no more purchases pray that Rooney doesn’t get injured because without him????
Chelsea are cheating so-and-sos.
-Pete the Manc.
Good to see Fergie misdirecting things as usual. It was a block, it was a foul, it was a cynical yellow card offence. It was not an elbow, it was not a sending off offence and the referee rightly allowed a United “advantage”
As for Ballack afterwards – what was he expected to say?
The only thing the ref got wrong was not going back and booking him.
Dont get diverted from the fact that United should have been out of sight after the first half. At least one worrying individual performance from Foster and a steep drop in team performance in the second half. Chelsea shouldnt have been in with a sniff.
Err…lets not forget that when Ballack blocked Evra off Utd still had possession of the ball. If anything Rooney should have kicked it out but he didnt. Stop whining and accept you’re no where near the same team without Tevez and Ronaldo! Like Ballack says, he would have understood it if the ref had given a foul. Also…it wasnt an elbow, his arm when Evra hits him is across his chest, which is head height for Evra, it was simply obstruction.
in that pic, Evra is saying : meet me outside, after the game like he said to Cesc, lol. but seriously that Bollocks is a fucking disgraceful cheat.
I wouldn’t say Rooney was obviously offiside, it was very tight, A.Cole was probably the reason the linesman did not raise his flag…and when in doubt the attacker should get the benefit of the doubt.
Does anyone like the guy. My blue friends can’t stand him. Bastard.
Thank God (aka Rooney) for the equalizer. Losing on penalties wasn’t half as bad as losing because of THAT! It was a complete joke, and I can’t believe the season hasn’t even started yet and I’m pissed off about a referee’s ineptitude.
The Premier League is back.
Rooney was offsides – not according to the rules, BUT according to the way that the offsides rule is always “interpreted”.
The rule is written to give the attacking player the benefit of the doubt; but the rule is “interpreted” to give that benefit to the defender.
And, it’s a stupid rule no matter how it’s interpreted. Far better would be a rule that divided the playing field into zones and allowed for “offsides” once the ball was moved into the attacking zone. But, that will NEVER happen as long as the idiots who run the game want to keep its rules in the nineteenth century.
The powers-that-be hide behind “tradition” but what they end up with is an endless series of wrong decisions because the offsides rule as presently written is not consistently enforced and all the discretionary interpretation is in the hands of linesmen who are afraid to give the attacking player the benefit of the doubt on close calls. Even if this odious rule were kept, it cries out for video replay – but that won’t happen, either.
Oh, yeah, about Ballack – I agree with the guy who wants to bring back Keane-o for one more game !
Rooney was just onside thanks to Cashley Cole. Yes, Ballack is a cunt. And yes, i wish Keano was still around for one game.
@London_Lad
We’re nowhere near the same team as we were yet still bossed your rentboys for the majority of the game!
We should have been 3 up by half time. Face it, Cech kept you in it!
Your own captain wanted to go to Chelsea, Drogba wanted out, Carvalho & Deco wanted out.
At least we got rid of the players who wanted out, Kenyon probably sucked your lot off while they spit shined his little bald head
(a) it was a foul, no arguments.
(b) however, it was an elbow across the chest, not the head. Had it been an elbow to his head via Ballack, Evra wouldn’t have got up so quickly.
(c) Foy knew it wasn’t to the head and therefore played advantage. Not his fault United cocked it up, eh boys.
(d) Rooney was offside. If you see it again, take a look at the beautifully mown Wembley pitch and check out the stripe in front of Rooney – clear daylight when he received the ball between him and Ash.
(e) Having said that, beautiful finish by Rooney. He’s going to be your best player by a country mile this season now he’s got a chance of being played in his best position now flash arse has gone.
(f) good match. Hopefully we will push each other all the way this season.
See you in Madrid, I hope!!
**Edit** Terry wanted to go to City obviously, not Chelsea
fucking Ballsack
Love Rooney being offside and Ballack not trying to elbow Evra and then Evra flying in to a tackle which he clearly meant to injure Ballack with…
swings and roundabouts like ur fella supporter said. u lost, get over it, cheers.
Evra trod on ballacks chest earlier on, Ballack just gave him some back, Evra later then tried to break Ballacks leg, Ballack just got up, Evra got booked. Its a man’s game and if you are a stroppy little french man it is ill advised to pick an argument with a six foot five german or a groundsman for that matter if you can’t take it in return.
Despite the raised elbow, it looked pretty mild to me. For Evra to go down like that and expect play to be stopped is a little bit optimistic. Anyway, sometimes it’s nice to see play continue.
Why are all the Chelsea people on here talking all this crap? This is a United blog so if you are here just to argue about stuff then get lost.
This is a place for serious football discussion not a hideout for immature schoolkids
An addition to Tony Starks comment….
Yes go away you nasty people we wouldnt have to face up to the possibility that we may all be a bit biased would we. We like serious football chat and mature posters (just like Micky)
@alex – It was a clear foul mate and IT WASN’T A LIGHT TACKLE . He clearly blocked evra with his body . What do you expect? Evra ain’t a ghost he cannot pass thru a man standing infront of him .
Yes, lets have some serious chat…. The Dirty SourKraut Bstd!
Alex,It’s also sometimes nice to have a captain who doesn’t fuck up on the BIGGEST stage,and who doesn’t care about money.
We missed Vida yesterday.He would’ve made Ballack shit himself.
Cheating rent boy kraut cunt. I’m so glad they didn’t beat us in normal time, penalties… Arsed?
@Chelseagirl:
I have to disagree about Rooney being offside. The camera is not level with the ball, so we have to go by the Wembley pitch. I have seen it twice now and he seems to be level with Cole. And i think the striker gets the benefit of the doubt.
Its only the Charity shield lads… get over it.. it doesnt mean sh*t.
Bring on this Sunday and then lets start disputing every contentious issue.
Its a long season, and if we start getting wound up be these things before the season kicks off proper, then god help us.
Bit like Moscow, eh Debrabs?? You didn’t win the CL – it was a draw. Shame you forgot to give us the trophy for our half of the season!!
haha… while wathcing the matc yesterday i really didnt see a single thing from united that made me at all scared. losing ronaldo and tevez and gaining micheal owen and valencia is probably the worst bit of business. united wont even challenge the title.
@Costas said
Seemed to me that as the camera isn’t level, the stripe is the best indicator as that is in effect drawing a line across the screen. I froze it and it looked to me that he was clearly offside. However, the lino didn’t raise the flag, so it’s all subjective! I think it’s going to be another season of rubbish decisions all round. It always amazes me just how bad the linos are.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwww…..Look at all the Chelski fans celebrating their Chawity Shield win…..So sad.That’s all they’ll win this season,so let ‘em enjoy it.
PS:Scott,Love the music for the Ballsack-Barcelona bit.
Chelseagirl, i don’t envy their jobs to be honest. It’s tough keeoing up with the ball all the time. That’s why i never moan about them, unless it’s something very obvious.
I do have a bigger problem with the power the referees have on their hands. It’s becoming too much. And in my opinion, the respect campaign has made it worse. Pretty soon, you will not be allowed to speak to them before,during or after a game. And they will be getting away with crap like yesterday.
That’s why ballack is never a champion.
http://www.studs-up.com/2008/10/bark-and-bite/
That’s for all Chelsea fans.
Costas, very true, but the referees and linesmen have endless seminars where they analyse every decision, associations to represent them and the full power of the FA disciplinary committee behind them (hmm….) and they really should get more decisions correct than they actually do. The issue yesterday is a case in point. There is a very clear ruling that in the case of injuries, you play to the whistle so players don’t kick the ball out of play when injury is being faked. However, not only did the United players start protesting, but the Chelsea players looked pretty reluctant to celebrate the goal first of all because I think they expected it to be ruled out. This isn’t a grey area. There is a ruling by the FA. So why the confusion? It is a tough job, but they really don’t help themselves by being inconsistent and (in the case of many referees) limelight hogs.
And don’t get me started on the linos – they have one main job to do – spot offsides…perhaps someone ought to teach them the rule??
Not fussed about the game really.Small potatoes as far as i’m concerned.
I prefer the real trophies that matter at the end of the season.
Let Chelsea have their day.Expect the dvds out next month.
Listen to you lot, if the Charity Shield mean nothing why all the bitterness!! lol I think we all know that Utd are in for a tough season, you are relying on two former scousers up front to bang in the goals for you…argh the irony of it!!!
Hang on a minute Chelsea girl and all you Chelsea fans.
what we’re talking about is the ref needs to be CONSISTENT with his decisions. Yes we had the ball – when Evra was down, then Carrick lost it and then you scored from that “advantage”. so why did he stop play when Ballack was “injured” , when WE had the ball.
my point is that on both occasions United had possession, and the players go down. but one time the ref stops play and we loose advantage, the other he lets play go and we don’t get any advantage in play. it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever!
abyway, the most important thing is that refs will be looking at that game and i hope that the good thing that does come out is for the refs to be consistent in their decision making. otherwise they will loose even more respect.
Blur n the rest of u cheating rentboys.. Explain to me why u celebrated like u won the champions league. Ballacks a dirty cunt always has been. U should be worried for the season ahead as we didn’t even have a full squad at our disposal. N if I’m not mistaken, we’ve won the league every year we’ve lost the c. Shield. And why was evra booked for that tackle on ballack? Happened right in front of me and was clean but hard tackle.
@London_Lad ,Rooney is still a scouser mate and Owen is from Chester……
Haha London_Lad just got told…
Oh well, back to drinking your shandy and paying a fiver to get into your own city centre
KVN – I don’t know why Ronnie Irani claims to be a United fan. He was referring to Bolton as “we” this morning. He is a glory supporting cunt. As for the rest ofTalkshite if you thought it was bad this morning you should have heard Wrighty and Durham. Cunt is Durham. There was 3 topics tonight all anti fucking United. Was it a wrong decision, Should “Fergie” just shut it and stop HARRASING refs and No way is Foster good enough for Ingerlund. After 1 game they write him off. As for the other topics in the hour I listened they did NOT take one call from United fans just 5 rentboys. Durham casually even asked “did you rate Berba Wrighty?” to which he actually said he loves him as a player so that shut the ginger cunt up. Then he was slating Rooney. Finally he said “United will have to get refs onside as they look a lot weaker this season”. Again Wrighty to be fair diagreed and said we played some good football. What is up with these bastards and why everytime I tune in should I have to listen to endless bile about United? I called the show and the producer said “We got loads of calls yesterday after the game from United fans so we are just balancing it out.”
I cannot wait to lift number 4 and shut these ABU cunts up.
Meanwhile the Fat Spanish Waiter is moaning about lack of funds saying “its hard to compete with teams who spend alot of money”. Shut up you fat cunt, your team have spent more than the rest of the top 4 put together this close season!
Rant over. My blood is boiling.
PS – Oh the irony! A rentboy phoned talksport regarding “Fergie” and said instead of concentrating on the refs he should sort his teams penalties out. Fair enough you say but when it really matters we CAN bang them in. Just ask Tiny Tears.
Talking of that twat, because of the Ballack thing nobody has mentioned the fact that this thug cunt dislocated Nani’s shoulder! By all accounts he should be fit for Wednesday, so that’s great news.
Say what you want, it was a perfectly good goal. The ref played advantage and after a few quick passes United lost possession and a counter was on. He can’t stop the game there when its 2 v 3 or 3 v4, whatever it was.
I’m an Arsenal fan and I didn’t care who won really although I was leaning a bit to United’s side. The ONLY problem you can have is the previous 2 incidents when the ref stopped the game, although I’d argue those weren’t dangerous attacks and he could stop it if he wants to.
In the end, it didn’t matter cause Rooney’s goal was offside and it evened out. Besides the first 20-25 minutes, Chelsea looked very strong though. Hate to say it, but I think they are #1 favorites. While I’m here, I’ll give my predictions. Liverpool replaced Xabi with Aquilani, who is out for 2 months already! Aquilani is at a decent age, but he’s made 61 total career appearances for Roma. That is quite pathetic really. Either he wasn’t good enough or he’s really injury prone.
Johnson won’t strengthen them.
And then we get to Arsenal. Oh my, I don’t even know what to fucking expect. I, like everyone else, think we need that CDM as a top priority. A CB would be nice as well, but not mandatory as I believe a quality CDM makes the CBs look better. This Chamakh bloke is top, top class. I watch Ligue 1 and besides finishing, he has everything you’d want from a target man. He’s a hard worker so he’d be a fan favorite. Quick, tricky, great in the air, and only CR and Ibrahimovic can rival his ball skills(for a tall player).
I hope we come in the top 2, but it’ll be tough.
ahahahaha. i know ballack was scared to have the ball at his feet so that united player can tackle him hard for doing that to evra. small brain small heart eh…
requote; small brain, even smaller heart…
Learnt some new nicknames today for Rentboys
Terry > Thugcunt….. (Thanks to King Eric)
Ballack > Titmeister….(thanks to NeeMania Vidic)
and Chelseagirl….. name might just mean she/he is a wooly woofter
blur – at least our players didn’t swear into the Sky cameras you fucking twat. I for one am not bothered about the result as much as I wanted to see a good performance from our lads, and the lads played well, but what I won’t overlook is the fact that Ballack is a fucking cheating cunt, and a patronising cunt too. If we decked one of your players and we played on and scored, then Drogba – like he did after the Barca game – would have thrown a hissy fit and that fucking mothers cunt Terry would have egged him on.
Ha ha…hate to disillusion you, TonyBee, but I really am female, Chelsea ST holder and I know a couple of your IMUSA fellas and FC United chaps too! I just enjoy a bit of sensible football conversation outside my usual Chelsea sites sometimes (but not with scousers or gooners…*spit*
Kings: drogba did and said what everyone inside Stamford Bridge really really wanted to say and at least showed some pro Chelsea emotion, rather than whining he wanted to leave. That match was just gutting – I felt worse than I did in Moscow and whilst I can go on a rant about Drogba myself and can quite understand why other clubs hate him, I forgave him everything for that rant of his.
listen guys, gets this right ok. 1. bolloks admitted what he did was a foul
2. the way bolloks bloked him was a harsh and not a play tackle in front of the fucking foy. u dont need to b a rocket science sceintist to analyse this. all we know foy cunt was playing with cockney cunts simple as that. yes this is a charity shield but we all concern about the big matches if these things happen that will cost us pretigeous trophy. reminder: we will come back with all ur hate us being successfull. respect to refs? fuck them
Chelsea is full of cheaters. Drogba,Carvalho and ballack were always cheaters from the time José Mourinho brought them to chelsea. Ballack admitted that he blocked evra and thats crystal clear that he should have been sent off. Thats it for chelsea, no more trophies. Cheers man utd.
Ok it was only the charity shield and yes Evra was fouled. What concerns me is that Foy et al will make similar decisions during the season especially at crucial times. What would the outcry be if he made a similar decision that sent a club down into the Championship or stopped one getting into the FA Cup Final or stopped a team getting into Europe. Come on refs sort it out.
Evra behaved like he got shot in the face and is totally fine few minutes after he realised that he ref didn´t blew the whistle.
it was a clear foul by Ballack, but Evras behaviour is unsporting as well.
End of.
My only disappointment was not seeing big girls blouse John Terry blubing again! Can’t be that shocked by Ballack’s behavior! He’s easily one of the most arrogant players in the Prem. And he’s a cheat! Guess he’s at the right club!!! Tosser!!!
@ JesperMoses and Micky
My post meant in the context of former players, but I will point it out to you…
Rooney as you say a born and bred scouser
Owen may not have been born in scouseland but he was (until moving to you) always a favourite for the fans and indeed loves the club.
I know you understood, just playing dumb ;o)
Make the most of that night in Moscow, because in a few months it will all be forgotten when JT lifts the CL.
@London_Lad
Maybe your not too birght or maybe your lift doesnt stop on all floors or whatever!
I think your on the wrong forum!.. This is a forum for Manchester United Supporters & Admirors of the Current Premiership Champions!
Im sure chelsea will have their own forum that you could post on, go and inspire them into beleiving your nonsense!!
If you dont understand the above I will translate into an alternative not so polite version.
FUCK OFF
Chelsea have used up whatever luck they are supposed to have by their oft perceived, and much-practised, cheating , and use of a World War 1 German mascot. Manchester United has a class that is way above whatever Chelsea can profess to have. Scum you are and like a bunch of Nazi scum may you continue to live. You are headed the right way when you commit a serious foul, say that you did it, and gloat over it.
Christ you lot bleat on. Of course, Mr. Keane never committed any fouls, Ronaldo never dived and Gary Neville never whinged…
It was a friendly, it was never a sending off (yellow card, yes – red, never in a million years). Yes, we have got our own forum, but it’s generally populated by morons over the summer so some of us popped over here for a bit of conversation.
Clearly, you prefer your own self-pity city-style “oh woe is us, everyone hates us, Chelsea are nazi scum” to a bit of decent chat, so I’ll leave you to it.
And btw, you aren’t the most hated team in the media….only one winner there ….and quite frankly, we don’t give a toss! All the scouse-loving media should be boycotted if you ask me.
Chelsea girl – what Keane, Ronaldo and Neville did is irrelevant. This is a thread about now, not last season, or two seasons ago, or ten seasons ago. If we want to discuss Ballack cheating against us, then we will do, just like you would be doing on your Chelsea forums if one of our players cheated and we scored as a consequence. No need to get so uppity. We beat you when it mattered, and that’s all we’re really arsed about, but I don’t see any problem in us having a go at Ballack for being a cheat.
Scott: Ancient history Indeed – presumably “Chelsea is full of cheaters. Drogba,Carvalho and ballack were always cheaters from the time José Mourinho brought them to chelsea.” is also pretty irrelevant!! We managed to get through a day without the nazi scum style insults popping up too!!
It was probably the definition of “cheating” that I was trying to take issue with – is a block, albeit one that should have constituted a yellow card, “cheating”? To me, diving is “cheating” because you are deliberately going out to con the ref. Ballack was very up front about what he did in the interview afterwards – he knew he should have been booked. So I don’t think he cheated as such. Defenders block people at corners and free kicks all the time – are they cheating? Do we want to turn it into the non-contact sport that the FA and European referees seem to want to? How bloody annoying is it when you play a team like Barcelona and they go over all the time to get free kicks…now that’s cheating.
And yes, you did beat us when it mattered – had it not been raining for hours and hours and hours then JT may not have slipped and the world would be a different place!
Chelseagirl – Ballack went to ground because of the breeze that was created when Evra ran past him. The ref took possession off us whilst he held his ribs, pretending he had been hurt. Moments later, Evra is running down that wing again, and because he got made to look an idiot last time, Ballack blocks him off the ball. Yes, that is a cheat. One minute he pretended to be hurt and the next minute he cynically collided in to one of our players. He’s a cheat.
The only reason Moscow went to penalties was because the hours and hours and hours of rain caused Van der Sar to slip, which allowed Lampard to score. So don’t feel too hard done by
if it hadnt been raining for hours and hours and hours vds wouldnt have slipped coming out to save ur goal and it wouldnt have even gone to extra time.
Nothing but “class” from United fans. It is as if Ovrebo was on the field and you have been “truly” cheated. It’s quite funny see all of you whine and moan about this incident. Just makes this win so much more sweet
Chelseagirl, professionalism and hooliganism do not go together. Why not replay the match and see what went on when Fabio and others came in … if your eyes are not looking through foggy windows you’d straight away see the treatment meted out to new players by the Neo-Nazi and a couple of other players … If that is fair, then what I say is fair. Perhaps that is a new tactic adopted from Italy and you are welcome to yellow cards and red cards. If music …
Ted – Hardly hooliganism – that treatment is handed out by all teams. Sometimes with bad consequences, eg Cech. Again, do you expect football to be non contact?
Scott – I shall be writing every dive, injury and roll on the floor down on 8 November and will let you know who wins!!!
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highlight of the match was Viva John Terry.
Calm down Emigre, you won a friendly on penalties, how you have fallen…………. oh dear.