Ahead of his move to Turkey, Bebe has spoken of his regret at failing to make an impact during his début season at United after signing for £7m last summer.
“I was happy to come to the best team in Turkey,” said Bebe. “I want to prove that Ferguson was not wrong by hiring me. He relied heavily on me, but unfortunately I could not show my value and I want to do this in Besiktas.”





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good lad bebe, you go and show fergie your skillz, I bebelieve in you !
if he can be a success at Besiktas, then Bebe deserves another chance
at least he has lifted the PL trophy
unlike Gerrard or Fabregas
oh yeah
Keep at it kid.
lost in translation. relied heavily…?
Bebe is going to be the best player the world has ever seen.
Lol. I think ‘relied heavily’ means ‘trusted me’.
At the moment, I think he needs to develop as a player more than he needs to play games. And that could only happen at United. So maybe the loan would have been a better idea after next season. Hope I am wrong and Bebe does very well in Turkey.
he wil bee one of the best players we have seen!
Show us, then.
In my view, this Bebe is still a Red as long as we hold the contract!
Have no problem with the idea that it is ok to take a gamble every now and again. I am a fan of the Bebe experiment. Hope it turns out for Bebe, hope it turns out for us. If it doesn’t do, then I don’t think it means that it wasn’t worth the gamble.
Hope he gets alot of games and shows everyone that he can work hard and learn the trade.
That said, Good luck to our Bebe!
Costas, Hmm, interesting observation. Surely the Besiktas have some good coaches?!
Heard we are in for the 18 year old french center back Rafael Varane! Looks a prospect. Hope Evra has sorted him out and checked his references!
1.91 m (6 ft 3 in)!
If true, these comments are a disgrace.
Only joking! We wish you all the best, Bebe!
Okay guys are there any more serious rumours happening?
@Fletch
I am sure they do mate, but I trust Sir Alex to work and develop Bebe a lot more. I hope I am wrong, but this loan deal doesn’t make me confident that Bebe will be back with us in 12 months.
There’s no precedent for the change in situation he has been through. Let him settle, just in a functional life let alone a club, and we’ll see.
Bebe will shine… in Turkey.
@Fletchtheman
Varane looks good but I do not understand why we are signing so many centre backs – Rio, Vid, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Varane – but maybe SAF is planning to use Jones or another as the Hargreaves replacement as a holding midfielder.
I am watering at the mouth to see which midfielder we sign.
Re Maybe Bebe – something likeable about the aura, earnestness and energy of the guy, he is an underdog and you want him to succeed as its the dream story, but I think we maybe got him a bit too late to develop him to the level we will need as the game becomes more technical due to influence of the Barca style. I am sure he will have got something out of his time with United and I hope he goes on to have a great career wherever that is. Ambition is great to see, good luck kid!!! Believe!
Off topic, I have to say I can only admire Giggsy’s defence splitting pass – “I am not unfaithful, I have an illness, sex addiction and I will get treatment so be supportive dear wifey.” – Brilliant ! Giggsy’s won it 11 times, Giggsy’s done it 11 times – allegedly! I hope he does not quit over this, his private life is his business, it is a bit of a shocker but I still respect him as a player and a ledgend.
“‘No, I have never cried scoring a goal,’ he said. ‘But racing is my passion. I am so keen. It is one thing to buy a horse at the sales and see it win. It is a different thing entirely to win with a horse bred from an 11-year-old mare who is pretty much a family pet.
‘The kids pat her every morning and love her so much. And then to win with her son, in my own colours, and at Royal Ascot. It is just amazing. You have to have done it to know the feeling. I have lost my voice shouting the horse on.’”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2004464/ROYAL-ASCOT-2011-Brown-Panther-win-puts-Manchester-Uniteds-Michael-Owen-bawl.html
Costas, Agreed buddy. Could well be the last we see of our Bebe, but that won’t stop me from wishing him well. As I said before, the only folks who come out of this with a question mark are Quiros and the agent. I am fine with Bebe and Sir Alex. Guess you could always ask the question about 6-9M, but again, BTW Bisiktas has a strong Portuguesse forward. Strapping guy named Hugo Almeida. Maybe Bebe can be under his wing. Is he any good? Thoughts?
NBI Red Onion, Good words about Varane. He has a couple of U18 and U21 caps but not as many as might be expected if first choice. Still a better size than Jones for the position in my view. Kind of think this is the end for Evans. Maybe one more year to really decide the issue. Agreed about the defensive mid idea. I said the same about Jones in the 6 position but got slagged. Also think he could be a fullback if the twins continue to suffer from the injuries.
“Manchester United have bid €10.5m (£9.2m) for the French central defender Raphaël Varane”
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/united-offer-9m-for-teenage-lens-defender-2298588.html
I’m really appalled at how many so-called Manchester United supporters I hear talking down on Bebe. This is a kid who came from nothing and is obviously talented. Yes, the deal is definitely fishy. But he is still…he is a Manchester United player and as Manchester United supporters, we should show a little compassion and support for a fellow human-being who came from practically nothing and is trying to make something of himself.
if Bebe can Knuckle down, improves his fitness, scores & improves Decision making on the pitch & play as a target man for Besiktas I see No reason why he should not be given another chance by United.
I think the criticism of Bebe is very exaggerated because of his price tag & “the no value in the market” thing SAF said.
IMO, i see him as a United’s Theo Walcott. Seriously there is no difference between the two;
-lack of footballing intelligence
-fast
-skillfull
-they both cant cross
- the both run off the pitch cluelessly when put in an easy attacking position
-both good finishers.
Okay Teddy Walcott gets more game time which is why he appears to be better but in all honesty Up To Now, Their Both a Pile of Elephant Shite that have been massively over-rate by their clubs due to complacent intelligence recieved from by Arsenal & United scouts.
*Currently smoking the Ganja
* fuck lots of grammaticall errorrs
* i meant 2 say over-rated & incomplacent
I swear i am not unde r the influence
Bebe needs one on one time with Scholes so he doesn’t have the first and final touch of Thor, thunder god
CB,? defense wins championships. goals win games.
1) G. Nev gone.
2) Brown all but gone.
3) Rio has played 1/2 the games the last 2 years.
4) O’Shea rumors and 6th choice cb
5) I recall a time Carrick and Fletcher were the CB pair due to injury.
6) Have 1 or 2 to many and let them fight it out cut the looser.
Vanane also plays with Pogba in France Nat team.
Bebe will become superb at Besiktas with regular football and then when he comes back from his loan we keep him forever. Fergie BARELY gets it wrong.
With a player such as Varane at 18 he wont count on the 25 for 3 years. Time to develop and decide, has he earned the colors?
Bebe, show us hopefuls your resolution and come back a better player. Only you have the ability to make the fairytale continue.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13792113.stm
Lord Ferguson… sounds good.
United enter Modric chase
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/928679/manchester-united-enter-luka-modric-chase?cc=4716
ten-ten-ten…. (dramatic sound effect…)
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2010-11/1926
Tosic with a ridiculous bit of skill and great ball into the box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rFr0mAxHbk
The perils of not giving potentials enough playing time? or just wouldn’t have cut it in the league period? Personally i don’t Bebe is the real deal but seems like a good lad so hope he does well wherever he goes
Im not giving up on Bebe he was recommended for the future by CQ , a season in Turkey will be a severe test for him i wish him the best , lets see how it pans out . In these situations i think of Forlan . Tosic is now begining to showing class .
didnt mind signing baby expect for spending LOADS more than we had to….thats the most sepressing part about it…if we had sign him for a mil or two that would have been alright….wish him the best of luck at besiktas and hopefully he can become a solid player
next one out the door….obertan….PLEASE!
Many people have forgotten that Bebe didn’t have pre season with manutd. Even look at the performance of Evra. Pre season is very important and he is the next legend at Utd. All hail utd
All the best lad….may you come through with flying colours….You deserve your chance, now show us and the world why Lord Ferguson signed you…Good luck!
funny lad like him,feel sorry for bebe because everyone was writing him off,now he gets some time abroad hopefully he can develop in the right direction
it looked like he was quite the entertainer at the celebrations and the lads seemed to like him
Lads, heard we got QPR ? Any truth ?
who?
fixtures arent out yet. In another 6 mins they will be…
TBH dont understand what all the fuss about this boy being a flop is all about..sure he didnt play well at Crawley, but United in the past have a tendency to flop when we expect fireworks from the kids in the Carling Cup..This lad has alot of raw material to work with. Just needs a less intensive atmosphere.
Re: Pato Rodriguez = saw a newsnow article that was shocking about how a scout has a report on the lad, who was talked up by his father and linked to Utd only to raise the value of said argentine ‘new messi’. If this is true puts a perspective on all these so-called media linked players.
Morning Reds!!
West Brom first game
Good Morning United!
That WBA is away then home to Spurs and Arsenal
Hello everybody.
Is anybody even slightly wondering why United are now spending these vast sums on money on players when previously it didn’t seem likely?
Is it because of the financial fair play rules being implemented at the start of this season?
Is it because The Glazers are selling United and want to make the Club an even more attractive invested?
Is it because SAF is going to retire at the end of next season and wants to leave the club in good shape?
Is it because SAF is trying to plug the gap between United and Barcelona in Europe?
The reason I say this is because It seems overkill on the amount of players United seen to be bidding on. I mean Vidic, Rio, Smalling, Jones, Evans, and then being linked to Varane? Do united really need 5 central defenders?
Also Valencia, Nani, Young, Park, Giggs, and then being linked to Sanchez?
They can’t all play at the same time. The younger players will need game time to develop and I can’t see it happening with Vidic and Rio in defence, Nani and Valencia on the wing.
All seems a bit nonsensical to me. Especially as what we need is a few decent central midfielders and we seem to have left that until last….
tottenham and arsenal as second and third fixture at home phew
Nope. WBA away is our first game of the campaign…
Sat 13 Aug – West Bromwich Albion (A)
Sat 20 Aug – Tottenham Hotspur (H)
Sat 27 Aug – Arsenal (H)
Sat 10 Sep – Bolton Wanderers (A)
Sat 17 Sep – Chelsea (H)
Sat 24 Sep – Stoke City (A)
Sat 1 Oct – Norwich City (H)
Sat 15 Oct – Liverpool (A)
Sat 22 Oct – Manchester City (H)
Sat 29 Oct – Everton (A)
Sat 5 Nov – Sunderland (H)
Sat 19 Nov – Swansea City (A)
Sat 26 Nov – Newcastle United (H)
Sat 3 Dec – Aston Villa (A)
Sat 10 Dec – Wolves (H)
Sat 17 Dec – QPR (A)
Wed 21 Dec – Fulham (A)
Mon 26 Dec – Wigan Athletic (H)
Sat 31 Dec – Blackburn Rovers (H)
Mon 2 Jan – Newcastle (A)
Sat 14 Jan – Bolton Wanderers (H)
Sat 21 Jan – Arsenal (A)
Tue 31 Jan – Stoke City (H)
Sat 4 Feb – Chelsea (A)
Sat 11 Feb – Liverpool (H)
Sat 25 Feb – Norwich City (A)
Sat 3 Mar – Tottenham Hotspur (A)
Sat 10 Mar – West Bromwich Albion (H)
Sat 17 Mar – Wolves (A)
Sat 24 Mar – Fulham (H)
Sat 31 Mar – Blackburn Rovers (A)
Sat 7 Apr – QPR (H)
Mon 9 Apr – Wigan Athletic (A)
Sat 14 Apr – Aston Villa (H)
Sat 21 Apr – Everton (H)
Sat 28 Apr – Manchester City (A)
Sat 5 May – Swansea City (H)
Sun 13 May – Sunderland (A)
We also have Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City before the end of October, bloody hell
fifth game chelsea at home strange fixtures
@AlphaRS It could be simply because Fergie thinks we need them.
Wow only city away third game before last – no Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea in the last 10 matches – they come somewhere in January February
BY 17 September we’ll have played Arsenal Chelsea Spurs
22 October Liverpool and city who are back to back
Oh this is just brilliant
Work through those games and we are on
Hello…Good Morning….is it August 13th yet?
Oops. MG and rat1 beat me to it.
Interesting first couple of months hey? We will have played Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Shity and Everton by the end of October..
wow the big games are flying in this season
Seems like the FA is betting on us to loose a lot of points early on in the season. Ohh, well, I guess we will have to put up the usual post Christmas show! Onwards and upward for # 20!
Well done Costas – looking forward to it – I think it’s a brilliant opportunity – absolutely fanstastic
No need to panic about the first 10 games – just work ourselves through it and go go go
no sloppy start this year eh
@AlphaRS and others: If you are wondering about the Varane deal, if it does happen, then it will be with a loanback for the first season to ensure that the kid gets playing time – that’s what I have read. This season is going to be a really BIG one for Jonny Evans.
@MG
Morning mate. Just like in 08-09, I think the idea is to have us drop points in the first half of the season. Once we hit top form in November, hopefully we will go on a big run of wins.
The thing that worries me about the start of the season and these big games is whether Chicharito will be available for them. Fergie has talked about giving him a rest…
Fuck those fixtures.
Tottenham, Arsenal and Chelsea all in the first 5 games.
the transfer window closes on august the 31 right if there are late transfers coming in it could be very interesting
Costas
Good Morning
I don’t have a problem with none of those fixtures at all – my only gripe playing teams back to back but what the hell our last third of the season is absolutely brilliant – this is United’s to lose and I would add that if we get the right signings in for midfield we are on for a good crack at the FA cup and CL
Again the squad cull is proving that SAF is serious about taking United to that other level
These fixtures should not scare us they should make us even more hopeful and stronger still
19
The dark side rises 11/12
Off Topic:
The IPO for Prada on the HK Stock Exchange drew a lesser than expected response:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13803864
It was mentioned as one of the IPO’s the Glazers were tracking to evaluate if that’s the right thing to do with MUFC. Not sure which I want more: for the Glazers to leave or be undervalued there on an IPO..
@Costas, MG
Just saw the fixtures mates…Costas you are amazing with those up to the minute reports man..!
I see we have a tough start….Sir Ale will make sure we have a harder pre-season than usual….my only concern is maybe we wont have Hernandez available to us so early in the season as he may have to be given an extended break after his non-stop 2 years of football
Other than that, we’ve got a decent run in, especially if we’re in the latter stages of the champions league… The start and the christmas program look the toughest periods, especially without Hernandez…
Oh well time for Dimmy and Owen to step up!
*sigh* August 7 seems so far away…
Morning all true REDS
If we manage to duplicate our home form from last season and improve our away form, avoiding late goals conceded and better defending at set pieces etc then number 20 will be in the bag….
MG
Morning buddy, any idea what Arry makes of the fixtures?
Hmm, Chelsea away on 4th of Feb… depending on theur form at the time this date may be postponed. I am sure the FA will come up with the perfect excuse!
Red Devil
Hi buddy, to be honest I do not think the Christmas period as tough at all…. Which games are you referring to?
@cedarsdevil
mate , we will beat chelsea whether its in feb ,march or tomorow
also mate , other than city away no real big games towards the end
we could get a massive amount of points there
sachu
Of course we will beat them, I was having a dig at the FA
So I appear and ever one of you buggers pisses off…. Do I have BO or something?
@Cedars, LOL!
I entered the Borders book store here to order a copy of Keano’s biography and all I could think of was Nigella Lawson’s awesome coookery books. They were literally screaming at me to buy them from the shelf. There were literally thousands of the arranged. I was seeing Nigella and her boobs everywhere.
I heard two voices in my head – One to buy it and one not to. I was in a trance almost.
Finally, I regained my senses and stared at all the covers for a good 15 minutes before checking the inside of the book to find a distinct lack of Nigella which completely threw me off. I kept it and moved on. That was a really close call, you know.
I blame Cedars and Dave Malaysia for the above incident.
If the next time, I end up buying the book, expect a full bill to come your way lads.
Good Morning Red Devil
Morning Cedars you devil you
Breaking News
World exclusive with Harry Redknapp
Redknapp “Chelsea’s bid is a disgrace for Modric, the player is not available for transfer at all I’m not selling the boy but if he was we’d be looking at 50 million with Drogba Lampard and Essien in return
”
Harry the fixtures are out today what is your take on this?
Well Jeff Tottenham v Tottenham at WHL for 38 matches, triffic we’d like to be champions by at least the penultimate game.
Harry what are you talking about?
Well Jeff I mean I’ve had a look at the fixtures you know and the trickiest one would be Tottenham at home before Christmas because that’s always hard with the weather and all. After that the second game at WHL against Tottenham looks really difficult Jeff and of course the run in is really hard but we’re in it to win it Jeff and we’ve got a good as chance as any. Hopefully by that time we’ll be in the CL final and the FA cup final and will have won the Carling Cup. Triffic
Harry are you feeling ok?
Well Jeff I had a talk to the chairman and he’s been triffic I mean surely this has got to be Tottenham’s year especially since we won the premiership last year – we’ve come a long way – the money is available and we’ll be looking to strengthen in a lot of areas. Owen Hargreaves is one of those players that we are talking to – what a brilliant player he would be for Spurs.
Harry you’ve just let Woodgate go because of his injuries what the fuck are you talking about Hargreaves for? And you never won the premiership Manchester United fucking did! And for fucks sake what happened to the other 19 teams in the premiership – what happened to playing everyone home and away – why the fuck are you talking about playing yourself at home for 38 matches for crying out loud man!
Their you again Jeff!!! You and that bloody Rooney swearing like that!!! I on’t have it – it’s disgusting and immoral and both of you should be locked up!
Long winded pause
Is Modric leaving for Chelsea?
He’s a triffic lad and a wonderful athlete and he’s not going and Chelsea are taking the George Michael out of us. 22 million? 22 million wouldn’t even buy his meat and two veg – I don’t know what Chelsea think they are on.
So he’s not for sale then?
Well of course not Jeff no means no but if the right offer comes in then I’ll have to take it to the chairman. We’d be looking at 50 million with Drogba Lampard and Essien in return and of course Manchester United are interested now and Chelsea have got competition and all Alex needs to do is pick the phone up.
But I don’t want to sell the boy but their again he wants CL football
I give up Harry I can’t get a straight answer out of you – fuck me
Their you go again Jeff yet again – you and that Rooney with your uncontrollable hormones! For crying out loud!
@Cedars
Hello mate…
By difficult I meant the Christmas period per se…we’ll have a lot of games in 10 or so days with a few away games and you throw in weather disruptions and rain and hail and snow and its going to take it out of you…with all our experience suddenly on the verge of being shipped out, the new guys will probably not be used to the demands of a United Christmas programme, especially the foreign players…
And on top of that, just as we get over the hectic period we have games against Bolton, Arsenal (A), Stoke Chelsea (A) and Liverpool on the bounce…the players will find it very tough, with absolutely no room to breathe..
the run-in looks a bit easier!!!Who cares what the F-ing FA throws at us!!we couldnt care sweet F.A!
MG – Fucking brilliant, one of your best and in all honesty I am in tears hahahahahaha
Red Devil – Thanks for the clarification buddy, I understand where you are coming from
Balaji – LOL and I kid you not, just been flipping through channels and who else but Nigella appears! Seriously!
Hello Red Devil. Who is this Sir Ale to whom you refer at 9:22? Cheers!
smartalex
Its his cousin!
He sounds like a barrel of fun!
smartalex
Hahahaha, I hope he comes in bottles too!
@Smartalex
hey mate…thanks for pointing it out…
Thats sacrilege! It should be Lord Alex now!
Red Devil – In Oz they sell beer called XXXX.
Sir Ale XXXX possibly has shares in that brewery!
‘Lord Alex’ will have to face endless media examinations and paparazzi invasions now, as they take advantage of any perceived flaw that can block his peerage.
Sanity is resumed…… Lord Alex and a new brew named Sir Ale
SAF has a lot of alter egos nowadays
Fegie
LAF
Lord Fergie
Sir Ale
Great link to the options the ‘El Nino Maravella’ has to choose from, United in my opinion are not the favourites but dark horses…personally i can see a repeat of the Ronaldinho situation…
Alexis Sanchez’s options
http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/06/blogs/alexis-sanchez-an-assessment-of-his-options
…
Papii – Judas Priest, that’s a lot of alter egos!
T4M
You make some really valid points…..
A very good alternative to all the ‘big name’ midfielders being linked with United.
Marvin Martin, a young 23 yr old french player that even Zidane has been talking up. Would fit the bill nicely, and french players adapt well to the EPL.
http://football-talk.co.uk/27422/video-manchester-uniteds-sneijder-back-up-plan/
Cedars,you know me i say a thousand words in silence
Marvin Martin?
utd normally start off slow is this the fa’s way of trying to fuck us by knowing this,thats a very interesting first couple of months.
Lol @ “well Jeff”
@willierednut
yeah stupid name!!!Just glad its not the ‘KiddyFiddler’ Ribery!
Marvelous Martian, stellar Red Planetarian!
slow day….fixture list makes it worse…another bloody month to go….ah well under 17s to lookout for…
@AlphaRS
It could mean that Fergie is happy with his CM options, the majority of fans have been wanting to see us sign some quality there for two or three years but he’s not made any moves in that time…
Hopefully Fergie has seen the light now and gets some real quality in there because starting the new season with the same CM’s as last year would be quite depressing to be honest, I don’t mean to put down any of our lads but it just pains me because I honestly believe we could be so much better – winning the league seems to have covered up how shite we were for two thirds of last season, not to mention our abysmal away form.
Morning ROM, hows we all doing today.
I think the fixture isnt actually to bad. In october, we seem to have very little travelling to do with City at home and Liverpoo and Everton away games only up the road.
Also, correct me if im wrong, but it seems that after every CL group game we have a home game in the prem. That cant be a bad thing surely!
@badger…agreed but then again the amount of players coming through and in our current team already is mouth-watering
@speedy
I can’t wait to see the likes of Pogba and Morrison (if he can sort his life out) get their chance but I think they would really benefit from playing alongside some genuine world class talent in midfield – we have world class defenders and forwards but good, not outstanding, players in midfield.
Its going to be very tough for bebe on loan. Very promising lads diuf macheda have struggled on loan. He should be lucky to get starting position, hope he gets games every week.
AlphaRS @ 9:02: “All seems a bit nonsensical to me. Especially as what we need is a few decent central midfielders and we seem to have left that until last….”
This logic seems reasonable BUT – and it’s a big, big qualifier – the international transfer window doesn’t open for another two weeks (July 1st) and what we are hearing about nowadays is uninformed “paper talk” with a huge emphasis on EPL-based players and/or a few “names”. The last time UTD were in a buying mode, SAF pulled two cats from his hat (Nani/Anderson) and finally bagged Owen Hargreaves who was supposed to link up with Michael Carrick as the perfect combintation in midfield.
What we can learn from that history is that SAF (and his cronies) have already done their due diligence, identified their targets, and are now waiting for the transfer window to open so that the agreed-deals can be made public.
In the interim, it’s two more weeks of Phantasy. And, of course, I’m still sticking to my fantasy-signing of Daniele De Rossi until the fat lady has sung !
Also liked what I saw of M Martin against Ukraine, but its hard to judge based on 20 minutes.
….and “relied heavily” is perfect english ya muppet!
denton davey – Give it up about De Rossi!
WillieRedNut – “Give it up about De Rossi!”
Jeez, what a party-pooper. Let an old man dream, will ya ?
No denton! Seriously though, seen a report about city being interested in him now. Talking about 18 million squid?
All the best Bebe!! I hope you find your mojo and come back stroonger annd better. I desperately want him to work out, just to Shut those Daily Mail C*nts!! idiots the lot
Guys do read this piece, fascinating stuff! Are United fans in awe of FCB?
http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/man-uniteds-corner-why-so-serious/