After Sir Alex Ferguson didn’t even give a spot on the bench in the Champions League final to the Premier League top scorer, Dimitar Berbatov, it was hard to imagine that the Bulgarian had a future at the club. With just one year remaining on his current deal, it looked as though the striker who scored more winning goals than any player in the league (according to Opta) would be off.
Two days after the final, United were set to show the Premier League trophy to the fans in Manchester. After failing to travel back to Manchester with the team, it was assumed that Berba would be absent. However, he spent a large chunk of the parade at the front of the bus, grinning and filming the occasion.
Exhibiting his excellent attitude once again, Berba has confirmed that despite being shunned for this final, he will stay and fight for his place in the next one.
“I will stay,” Berbatov told Bulgarian TV. “I will fight for the twentieth title. There will be new finals and we will be fighting for new titles. I am moving ahead. When you go through difficult times, you should not quit. Everything at Manchester United starts from scratch for me on July 4th.”
Berba wasn’t seen in the stands and some reports suggested he had left the ground, which was quickly denied by the manager and his agent.
“The truth is that I stayed at the dressing room and watched the Champions League final there, on a TV screen,” he said. “I was really disappointed. I was ashamed that I was not part of the team and did not want people to see how sad I feel.”
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Yessssssssssss!!! Please do stay my Bulgarian God!!!
i hope with all my heart that he stays…quality player and world class attitude
Go
I hope for his sake he gets some more first team football, don’t wanna see him leave
Personally, I am glad Michael Owen is staying as well….
Oh, and it does not matter if Berbatov wants to stay or not. It is all what Sir Alex Ferguson wants.
It’s great to hear. I love this man’s attitude. I wish it was enough.
Costas @ 11:40: ” I love this man’s attitude. I wish it was enough.”
Sums up my position on Dimmy; maybe, he will be better next year – playing more centrally and more forward, he had a very good year but I always have the sense that he should do more.
The talent is there but I always have the feeling that he’s a square-peg-in-a-round-hole.
C’mon Dimmy, prove me wrong !
Park was left out of the sqaud in 2008. Let’s hope this has the same effect on Berbatov!
May it be a Berbatunday every day for us and the rest of his Berbareer!!
PHEW !!!
what kind of pain the lad might have gine through in the dressing room on sat nyt and even more after we lost
i have nothing but respect for the classy player.
he knows he is on the verge of winning SAFz faith in big games coming season, the confidence of this season should lift his spirits above everything else..
BebaTOP u beauty
Excellent news
We need WC midfielder – no need to change the striking department – injury free Michael Owen will be brilliant too
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The United ladies can take a very deep sigh of relief
@denton, Square peg in a round hole. Pretty much what me and Costas were discussing in the other thread.
Words cannot explain my admiration for Dimitar Berbatov, the player and the person. His technical skills is second to none and his character is perfect for United.
But Sir Alex’s mind is set to a different tune and he wants us to play a style of football for which I feel Dimitar Berbatov will never be suited for. Unless we specifically make perfect use of him like we did in the early part of the season which, with the advent of Chicarito, I don’t think we will.
I think moving on will be better for him in a sense but I would love if he stays and if we find some way to work with him. I have no idea what Sir Alex feels but I’ve always felt that he was a fan of having four top-quality strikers – Rooney, Chicha, Owen and Berba.
Also, not to mention, we might “need” Berba if Sir Alex decides to permanently shift Rooney to a more central role from next season.
At least we know he will fight for his place which is good for United.
More than him staying, I hope major success comes his way. So far, he has 2 Premier League titles and a Golden Boot. I hope he gets more. Such positive attitude deserves some reward in the end. I know he wants that Champions League medal more than anything else now. May God give that to him.
Hope he stays, as well. If we pick up a decent midfielder (Sneider / Modric ) Dimi will have some decent service.
YESS!!! Get in Berba you absolute genius you!!! Go out and win the golden boot again, coz apparently winning it this year is still not enough for some people…
Great news, less so about Owen!
These two pieces of news might also suggest that Danny Welbeck will either stay out on loan at Sunderland or be sold. No point in him staying at OT and wasting time on the bench. Better he get 30-40 games at a Premier League club and score 15-20 goals.
With this attitude and determination how can anyone not liking him?? My love for him grown deeper and deeper! LOL!! After all the humiliation he av to endure…he STILL wants to stay!! What a FIGHTER!! what a MAN!!
Great attitude !!! if any more players were like him
Still don’t understand why Owen is staying.
He (Owen) playned just 11 games as the 4th striker. How many games will Welbeck play as the 5th?!
As much as I rate Owen Welbeck deserved his chance.
He also said that he watched the game from the dressing room because he didn’t want people to see how disappointed he was about missing out. It’s really ridiculous how modest he is compared to former players of ours when they lost their spot.
What a class act!
So many other players will have thrown an almighty hissy fit in the same situation.
So so happy he is staying
@costas
good point mate
also having seen how players like tevez ronaldo and rooney behaved
thisis certainly great
i expected him to say this to be honest
but it doesnt realy matter wat matters is if fergie wants him or not
@Zelh
Owen has played for Liverpool, Real Madrid and now United. Going to any other club would be a major drop in standard for him. He’s at the twilight of his career and he doesnt want to just fade away. Why should he? He wants to go out with a bang. Can he get that bang at Aston Villa or Sunderland or Fulham?? No. At United, he has a chance of winning things…scoring important goals…getting that Champions League medal he desperately wants.
I do believe, though, that he’s been under-utilized. There’s more to come from Michael Owen.
When it comes to the bulgarian i think many of you are deluded.
ffs when van nisteroy had to go as he was stopping our counterattacking he was sold and he was a GOAL MACHINE who ALSO SCORED IN THE BIG GAMES.
Andy Garcia is slow, lazy, big game bottler, arrogant and chastizes our players if the ball doesnt arrive where he wants it.
HE IS OUR RECORD SIGNING BUT IS NOT TRUSTED WHEN IT MATTERS.
bUT yeah lets keep him i mean 30 million for a bench warmer is really sensible isnt it?
GLAD WERE KEEPING OWEN, HE NEEDED 1 SHOT TO SCORE AGAINST BLACKPOOL, ANDY NEEDED 7 AND STILL DIDNT SCORE EVEN 1 GOAL.
When did the bulgarian last score in the champions league?
Anderson has scored THREE since then, YES ANDERSON.
Oh yeah its ridiculous to claim the bulgarian has a great attitiude.He wants to stay where he is THIRD choice striker, what a winning mentality!
A great attitude where he sulked like a little girl and couldnt be fucked to SUPPORT HIS TEAM MATES IN THE CHAMP LEAGUE FINAL!
get rid while hes still worth anything.
Saad – most of the time he was injured so I dunno if he ‘s been under-utilized. And still Welbeck derserved his spot in the team like SAF said, but I dunno how he wants to give him enough game-time.
Although Berbatov wishes to stay I don’t necessarily think the club want him to. Re-signing Owen today when they’ve had months to re-sign Berba, to me, sends of a clear sign. The guy’s class, yes, but so was Van Nistlerooy. Ruud scored more goals and was even more crucial to us winning the title in 2002/03 when his continous goalscoring dragged us to the title in a manner in which Berba’s preXmas form cannot even compare. Yet when the Boss wanted to change the style of play Ruud got the boot and I just dont see how Berbatov fits into Fergie’s thinking. He wants to play hard pressing, fast paced football and Berbatov can do many things on a football pitch but not that.
GhostViking really loves Berbatov, doesnt he?
Now bloweth the RoM volcano…
Wow. Looks like Berb slept with someone’s wife.
How many chances did Michael Lethal Owen need to score against Juventus by the way? Get a grip.
@sachu
I agree. That’s why I said that his desire might not be enough. And imo Fergie has decided to move ahead without him. But it is refreshing to see a player understand it’s a team game as opposed to the likes of Tevez.
@Zelh
I think Welbeck needs a little bit more development as a true centre-forward and needs to improve his fitness. I personally find it inexcusable when professional athletes frequently come down with muscle injuries like calf strains and hamstring pulls. Giggsy used to have the same problems in his younger years and he’s dealt with them now primarily by taking yoga.
After the news about Scholes yesterday this was great news
I would rather have Berba than Owen, who just will take up space for Welbeck.
@ UNITED4EVER,
spot on sir,
To be honest , id take ashley young over berbatov, young is young lol , mobile skillful and can be a better player at OT.
Under 20 mil is a good price for him i beleive.
JUST DONT BUY ANYMORE SPURS PLAYERS PLEASE!!!
No Benzema then
Ashley Young?
God no
Thank God.lt’s a squad game nowadays.l am glad that even Owen is staying.lf we are to win all competitions we should ensure we are covered in all areas be it injuries or fatigue after Champions league away games.
COSTAS what are you on about juventus for? I dont see the connection.
Did or did not the bulgarian have 7 chances to score against blackpool but fucked them all up?
I d say thats why he was isnt even in the fucking squad, wouldnt you?
He is pure class. So many athletes in all sports can learn from him.
ashley young? oh please no, he’s overrated. i’d rather have berbatov than 2 ashleys
Great man…I must say I had a similar situation at work, when after giving my all and being acknowledged and commended by senior people at several times, I was left in the lurch when it came to the final reckoning in favour of some undeserving (but hot!!) bitch.
I gave it another year but the same fucking thing happened again and this time it just broke the camel’s back and I was outta there…but this guy here is showing such tremendous resolve and such a fantastic attitude swallowing his ego and all….I bow my head in respect my man….absolutely brilliant.
My respect for him as a person has just gone up ten-fold
Aren’t there any decent left-footed talent out there to replace Giggsy? How is it that we always miss out on the Overmars’s and Robbens?
mg yes ashley young,
Its simple really he and abonglahor ripped us to peices at villa park, remember how they gave vidic a rough ride.
Berbatov gives noone a tough ride , he is slow so the defence push right up and he becomes a peripheral figure/
We need young hungry playerss not 30 year olds who are happy to sit on the bench.
With Owen its ok for him to be a fringe player HE WAS A FREE TRANSFER NOT OUR RECORD SIGNING OF 31.7MIL.
So what? The Blackpool game was the deciding factor that would make or break a United career? How about the 21 goals that Berbatov scored before that? Those count for nothing? Say what you will about Berbatov, but he played a huge part in us winning title 19 and deserves more respect that what he’s got from some United fans. So yeah, he should have been at least on the bench at Wembley.
And I mentioned the Juventus game to prove that even Owen can miss 7, 17 or 27 chances in a game. It happens.
On that note. Sell Berba and buy Heskey.
Id bet most of the berbalovers are foreign
Alright lads, long time reader here but not really posted before.
I think a lot of people are missing the point with Berba, he’s a class player no doubt but its blatantly obvious that Fergie doesn’t trust him one bit – the big games where we have needed him to step up (Blackburn away last season, City FA Cup this season etc) he has failed. Not only that but when he misses a few chances his head goes down and he might as well not be on the pitch, compare that to Rooney that even when he was playing shite he kept going for 90 mins and would lift the team, something that Berbs has never done.
GhostViking makes a vaild point in that Berbs doesn’t suit or style of play, we are (or at least used to be) a fast, counter attacking team but he slows it down too much. Great player yes but square peg in round hole is just about right to me.
What is the opinion on Eden Hazard?
Great commitment, can’t argue with that. How many other people would come out so soon and still pledge everything to the club after being completely snubbed. Only worry is.. is it his decision to make? I have a feeling this snub was part of a wider plan to ship him out to be honest. If you don’t put Berbatov on the bench for the Champions League Final then he obviously isn’t in the manager’s long term plans. Great response from Berba but I just think his card has been marked and he will effectively be forced out. Could be wrong but the signs are there.
Racist on top of ignorant?
MG – Pretty much much my thoughts. Once we get a keeper and a top CM, I’ll start to relax a little. Heard Fergie went on holiday today and Gill has the task of getting the players the boss wants. I hope it doesn’t drag on all summer.
United won their 19th title because of our amazing home form. Berbatov -was- that amazing home form for the majority of the season. For the months where Rooney was shit, actually, factually, fucking useless and bitching about quitting the club, Berbatov lead the line for us, kept us in the league, set us up to win the title as part of the 29 game unbeaten run. Of course we were all overcome with Shock And Awww when Chicharito started banging in goals for fun, but Berbatov (and Nani) at the front line carried us through the season. Carried a team with a wonky midfield, that was being derided and written off by all elements of the press, and won us games.
I don’t want to sound harsh, but anybody who doesn’t rate Berbatov is a fucking retard. And I’m sorry if that offends people but it’s true. You have got to have the memory of a goldfish and the mind of a chimp not to recognise that Berbatov’s contribution was absolutely critical to the 19th title win. Without Berbatov we wouldn’t have won 19. Simple as that. The stats bear that out, watching the fucking matches bears that out. Hell the economics bears it out, we’ve paid the money already, that’s the hard part done, so why talk about getting rid at all?
Going forward, without Berbatov we don’t win title 20 next season. We all saw the champions league final. We all saw that, when push comes to shove, even our much beloved Little Pea is capable of an absolute mare. Berbatov is not the only player who chokes you know. Hell Rooney was gagging on his own arse for half the season. For Cantona’s sake the guy was the top scorer in the league and he was barely even playing for a big chunk of it. Does that not count for anything?
Maybe I’ve just been trolled, I dunno. But I happen to think Dimitar Berbatov is not only one of the most gifted players ever to wear our shirt, but he’s also a really good guy who has worked hard, and continues to work hard, and who deserves to be treated better by the fans of the club. Makes me sick to my arse the way some people conduct themselves.
Aftr his hat trick agnst liverfool “..I’M HAPPY AT UNITED AND WANT TO END MY FOOTBALL CAREER HERE. I CANT SEE MYSELF PLAYING FOR ANOTHER CLUB BESIDES UNITED, AND IF SO, I BETTER QUIT MY PLAYING CAREER..”
Berba breathes United. Top Class.
doghouse
well said. that just summed up everything to the haters and complain-ers
YES he scored over 20 goals but that is what happens when you play for united. That has to do with valencia nani giggs rooney too no?
I dont see why you have to defend him to the death , are you his agents?
OUR BOSS DOES NOT TRUST HIM
You guys can call him a god , say hes a genius , say hes sexy like portugese princess you can say hes the top scorer. BUT all that means nothing if SIR alex wants the bulgarian out.
He does NOT play in the important games FACT so whats the fucking point?
OUR record signing and i expect a LOT more
That was a belter Doghouse.
no not racist costas far from it call it an observation.
Is it true?
Yeah why would we support a United player to death? Lets trash him.
@GhostViking
Have you conducted a poll here?
berba you had nothing to be ashamed of buddy,it was wrong what happened to you.like a few others said utd resigning owen imo leaves the writing on the wall for berba.
on the surface it looks like berba will be used to raise funds to sign someone else.
fuck me though gotta love his attitude and desire to stay,been a fucking doormat by the press,the fans and finally sir alex.
hope he stays makes utd a much more cohesive and would have had a better chance of beating barca with him playing.
other news carrick is suffering from a mental breakdown been withdrawn from the england squad,looks like the pressure has finally got to him,that’s really fucked up hope he can work it out
He’s going to be sold anyway. This is heartbreaking for the guy.
ignore the carrick statement one of those stupid fake reports,just woke up only 6.30am got sucked in
@wayne
Hi mate. What happened with Carrick? I thought it was a hip injury that ruled him out of the England game.
GhostViking
Unless you are in any sort of way close to Sir Alex Ferguson:
“OUR BOSS DOES NOT TRUST HIM” and any statements to that point are absolute full of fucking shit
Nani didn’t start the CL final does that mean that the boss doesn’t trust him?
Or Scholes? Or Rafael? Or Evans?
Give it a fucking break – Football Manager is all well and good – no one including me knows what the gaffer is thinking and why he thinks it – to argue otherwise is fucking hypocritical.
Ah, forget it wayne. Drink some coffee before you read reports mate.
It’s one thing that the fans seemed to prefer Tevez to him, but Sir Alex choosing Michael Owen over him? That’s just a slap in the face.
Costas one of those spoof sites mate didn’t pick up on it
great attitude, incredible loyality! Cmon Berba, score 30 next season!
“The truth is that I stayed at the dressing room and watched the Champions League final there, on a TV screen,” he said. “I was really disappointed. I was ashamed that I was not part of the team and did not want people to see how sad I feel.” awwwwwwwww,that would have broken my heart too lololol
@MG – come on, not even putting him on the bench for the final is pretty damning evidence. What other big games has he started for us?
I’m sorry – it seems that the gaffer deemed Hernandez to be the better starter at the latter stage of the campaign and up until the CL final it worked
What Berba did was important – fair enough he didn’t do it in the FA cup SF – but neither did any one else
United fail collectively or make it collectively – arguably some players may move on because they are just not good enough – but all you lot calling for Berbas head go fucking find a world class striker for peanuts and then talk to me – the fact you can’t means this conversation is over.
I’d have a mental breakdown as well, trying to chase that lot on Saturday. Felt sorry for Carrick. He tried his best, but came up against two world class midfielders, in their pomp. Didn’t help either, playing him with Giggsy, who’s mind clearly wasn’t on the job.
@Costas lol my morning routine is put coffee on and go to newsnow for updates while coffee is brewing should start using the timer.
@portugueseprincess – I know! Damn, Fergie is pretty ruthless. He must have known how this would hurt Berba. I can’t believe he could be so cold, especially after he had to leave out Park in the 2008 final.
Did anyone here believe Owen could actually do anything against Barcelona?
Fred
Oh yes then let’s come on Shall we fuck Rafael John and Evans too?
I admit players like Obertan Diouf to a certain extent Macheda and Bebe may go – wether for good or for loan but players like Berba who kept this team when it was thrown into chaos by WR – he’s a big man holding his nerve – and he’ll be a bigger man for firing on the team next season
Seriously I don’t give a shit what big games he has started or not – that’s not my job to pick the team – I respect the man – other players just wilt in SAF mind games – so fair play to him.
hope he stays. really pissing me off people who say he’s not good or not united player, without him we would win fuck all this season.
with an attitude like his we should sign him up for life. but with his footballing ability the question of weather the club want him to stay should never have been questioned in the first place.
Rejoice – this is great news!
@Doghouse – 100% excellent post! Thanks for telling it as it is.
The thing with Park, is that at the time we also had Hargo, Giggs, Ronaldo and Nani that could do the job on the wing. Regardless of his performances against Barcelona in the semis, he had a tough job if he was going to be a part of the Moscow squad. In Berbatov’s case, I think he felt worse because he lost his spot on the bench to one player that’s scored 16 goals less than him this season.
@wayne
Yeah that might be better, lol. You will find a lot of bs on newsnow. Especially the Daily Mail articles!
willierednut
Good point that
Thanks to Imogen Thomas Giggsy decided to have a bad night on the wrong night – damn forget the way Barca play – the way they mentally go about the game is something else too – United are equal in that department and let themselves down when they at least couldn’t go one to one with Barcas mental technique.
Again the side doesn’t need to change so far but it does need the appropriate personnel to put a bite back in in order to take teams like Barca on.
@Wyane: WTF re Carrick? Source? “Mental breakdown” sounds effing strong, mate!
@Costas: Racist and ignorant, but you got it wrong. It’s actually the mum, not the wife!
@GhostViking: Let’s assume you showed a little more respect to Berbatov. If I were to do such a thought experiment, I would have “reasoned” with you. I would have reminded you how the foreigner Berbatov rescued our season when it was at risk of unravelling due to the shenannigans of homeboy Rooney. I would have reminded you that a guy who scores a hattrick against Liverpool and scores the winning goal in more matches than any of his EPL compatriots deserve more admiration and patience from us and the manager. I would have reminded you that to score in the CL, you actually need to play those matches.
But, since you haven’t shown due respect for Berbatov, I will tell you this – I do not want to reason with you. You intelligence has shrivelled like a mangy leper’s cock. You do not deserve the joys of being a Berbatov fan, or a United fan. You deserve the abuse of all true Reds. You deserve to fuck off right now, because if you don’t the foreign Berba fans will punch so many holes in you, you won’t know which one’s for speaking and which one’s for farting. Ohh, why bother – you talking outta your ass anyway! FUCK OFF!
costas owen scored with 1 shot coming on as sub
Berbatov scored 0 with 7 attempts
Why on earth would you play the guy with. such poor conversion rate?
You think you re gonna get 7 chances to score agaiinst barca um, no
Rooney and chicha started as they are
faster
more clinical
a better partnership
close down defenders
make good runs
etc etc
I cant believe we are debating the striker department at this stage. Surely midfield
is the area which needs strenghtening.
The simple minded will always look at the strikers first in order to improve a team, but
the midfield is often more important actually.
Doghouse top post
*stands up and applauds Jeet*
@MG, willie
Personally, I don’t think the scandal affected Ryan that much. I just don’t think he could do anything more on the night. Giggsy’s pace works for him when he plays against Chelsea’s midfield, but the Barcelona one is a differet animal. More passing and more movement. He had the same problems in the Rome final. It was a sad issue that heading into the Wembley final we didn’t have a perfect midfield partner for Carrick. Not saying that’s why we lost, but it didn’t help.
@Jeet
Lol. Touche.
Ashley Young to rip Barca apart TM
Fuck me unbelievable
I’d rather have Berbs coming in for the non “big games” (that phrase cracks me up…EVERY game has been a big game this year!) and bang in 20+ a season, than have someone coming on who can’t perform.
And what is all this bollocks about big games anyway??? HELLOOOO???? LIVERPOOL???? HAT-TRICK???? JEEZ!!!
And IMHO (and with hindsight) the BIGGEST game of them all, the champions league final, was begging out for some Berba class…because, once again, IMHO, Chicha did nothing. In fact he was so offside he gave possession straight back to the opposition. Berba should have played, he would have held the ball up at least.
Rooney and Hernandez , 1st choice partnership for MANY MANY YEARS.
UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED UNITED
looks like chelsea are signing lukaku
Costas
Someone said to me we should have done this:
VDS
Smalling Vidic Rio
Fabio/Valencia Rafael/Fabio
Carrick Scholes
Anderson
Rooney
Hernandez
I don’t know if that is the answer – he partly mentioned the Arsenal FA cup game as reason
I thought I’d throw it out for the sake of throwing out.
Classy response from Berbatov. Would be very pleased with him and the club if he stayed, but starting to think he will be part of a trade from all the press. The prices quoted for Modric and the italian lad are beyond ridiculous so feel Berba is our most valuable make weigh for those.
You need players like Berbatov in my opinion. T e champs league is always going to be a good reference.
With all the pace SAF could muster in his squad, it wasn’t effective for over 80% of the game. We see now that having players with fantastic ability on the ball is a must. Not saying he would have made a diffrence on the night. Only saying that if more players were as comfortable and classy on the ball we could have given a better account of ourselves .
That leads me to the square peg in a round hole analogy. Yes it seems that way but why isn’t any one thinking about mending the hole to take in square pegs. Again after the game on Saturday, its more and more apparent that a change in strategy, thinking, personnel is required. Berbs can play a huge part in any gamble SAF decides to take and make no mistake the enormity of the challenge he faces will make it just that, a gamble.
His attitude is good, very good. Like OGS, except we didn’t pay 30million for him, that nutter GhostViking said it though, if SAF doesn’t want him then he’s most likely off.
The attitude of this man is unbelievable. After reading those lines he said about being ashamed that he was not part of the team, I nearly welled up.
Though I don’t think that he and the style we play are a great fit and I would probably have made the same call that the boss made on Saturday, he really shows he is a true gentleman.
I hope he either gets a lot of playing opportunities or that for his own sake, he leaves. Sadly Dimi, at this point it makes me ashamed that this team and this style is not good enough for your class.
De gea , Young, who is the third signing do you guys think?
does anyone know what the stat is little pea scoring as sub as compared to starter.i never thought he should start ahead of berba and seemed to have his best games as sub or am i dreaming that and before anybody jumps on me i was saying that all season nothing to do with cl final.
so im a nutter because i share the same opinion as Sir Alex?
I guess he is a nutter too?
Or maybe the people who disagree with us are nutters ? Yes that makes more sense.
I love you Dimitar Berbatov.
His disappointment at not even being in the squad is very understandable. I feel for him when he says the word ashamed. He’s set high standards for himself, you can see the amount of pressure he puts on himself on the pitch just by reading his expressions.
I will always respect and love any United player that respects and loves Manchester United. Always.
Late to the partay but HAPPY BIRTHDAY LITTLE PEA!
Difficult to believe so many ppl here are slagging off Berba and Owen. Is this really ROM or EOTK?
Ive been a staunch reader of Rom for a long time now,only that this is my first post.i think berba deserves better treatment by united fans from the way he chose united over shitty to his contributions to make no.19 a reality.i’ve been in love with united for a very long time yet i havent been to the uk(not my choosing though) some posts are just annoying coming from fellow reds,isnt united supposed to be a global name?does it mean that u only have to live in manchester to understand what mufc is?sorry guys but the post about Dimmy’s fans being foreign was ill advised,afteral we are all but a big red family.
Well, if he does go, there can’t be any silly arguments about whose idea it was for him to leave and about whether he’s committed or not. The man’s ability isn’t in doubt. His class isn’t in doubt. His commitment and love for this club aren’t in doubt, either.
I have watched the match against Barcelona again, especially the last 20 minutes or so. As much as I love Hernandez, it is painfully obvious that the Barca defense had his measure. Obviously, we had severe difficulty getting the ball forward, but when we did, they had his measure. Apart from the opening spell, where he saw a bit of the ball but was offside several times, he was unable to get into the game even when the ball did go forward.
In the last few minutes of extra time, we were on the attack. Scholes swings the ball out left to Rooney, who then floats in a looping cross. Hernandez runs in to contest the ball with Pique, but runs in behind Pique, who is 6-7 inches taller than him. Pique barely even jumps off the ground while heading the ball. The Little Pea never stood a chance. Even had he run in front of Pique, it’s hard to see how he could have won a one-on-one battle against someone 6-7 inches taller and much bigger/stronger.
Back in March, against Bolton, Sir Alex took Hernandez off and subbed Berbatov on. I think it was a decision that surprised some people at the time. Berbatov, however, did score the late winner. After the match, Sir Alex said he made the move because he felt we needed more height in their penalty box. (In fact, The Berb scored his winner from a low ball, but the point is not what happened, but the details that Sir Alex thinks of.)
The Berb’s height, his physicality (he out-muscled and out-jumped Carragher to score, remember), his ability to take instant control of a ball, to hold on to it under pressure (even for a few moments), his ability to pull something different out of the hat — to surprise the defense, and his proven chemistry with Nani — all those things might have served us very well in the last 15-20 minutes on Saturday. It wouldn’t have been enough, but it would have been something.
The manager pretty much decides who stays and who doesnt.
As for United meeting Barcelona again and having a chance at beating them. We wil need quicker feet, faster players who all put in double shifts.
Berbatov amoung others don’t fully fit that mold. But, it could also be fixed with better midfielders. Difficult to know. What I don’t like reading are members on this board saying “ship Welbeck out – keep Berbatov”. Welbeck is a Mancunia, if he continus to develope he could be a one club player. If we want lojal players at United and not rent boys, we need our own talent in our first team.
mg what the fuck are you on about?
Berbatovs last big game was against city and he fucked it .
Did he play against Chelsea?
Did he play against Arsenal?
wasnt even in sqaud for the final , so yes i think its safe to say that he is not trusted for the big games.
Blackpool league already won? yes
schalke when we were nearly through ? yes
Do you think i want to have doubts about our record signing?
Of course not, but thats how it goes.
Wow, got to love how professional the Berb is. Hats off to him!
@Stateside Aussie
Hello fellow Berba appreciator! Agree with you there. Berba gives us extra option, although i don’t think starting him would have made any difference to the result on Sat (since our midfield is all in all the weak link regardless of our strikers on show).i think of him as a ‘linker’ he links the midfield to the front. Controls the ball perfectly and pulls it away well. I’m positive he’ll stay, and we have to use him well. This disappointment could well give us a new Berba next season. He’s said that everything starts from scratch fro July 4th, and that’s the indicator. Slap your detractors across the face Berba.
@Vilhelm i’m all for keeping welbeck but i hope your rentboy statement isn’t aimed at berba,one thing berba isn’t is a rentboy
What a guy! The more he speaks the more I fall in love with the man! The modesty, honesty and integrity of this man should make other players stand up and take notice! *This is Manchester United!* – said like Leonidas in 300.
The logic of only local lads will be loyal is flawed. Shocker.
@ Stateside Aussie
Top post… Though I agree with most of what you said in hindsight, before the match, if you gave me a choice of who to bring on (assuming only one sub striker) if we needed a goal, given that paucity of chances that one gets against Barca, I would have been more inclined towards Owen who still has the instincts to sniff a half chance and turn it into a goal.
The only trick I think the boss missed on the night and I told my best friend who was watching the match with me, was that without Scholes, the quick distribution of the ball to the wings never happened. Barca defenders had the time to position themselves well before the ball ever came in.
KingofStretfordEnd … yea, I would not have started Berbatov on Saturday, though if we had to replay the match again this week, I might
But I would have had him available for the last 20 or 25 minutes — would have brought him and Nani on at the same time.
urval87 … before the match, I said that Sir Alex would bring on Owen if he wanted “more of the same but with fresher legs”, and Berbatov if he wanted something completely different. What I never imagined was that he would make that choice before the match even started. I assumed he would have both options available but there was only one. If I had considered that possibility before the match, I would definitely have had The Berb available. Owen is very similar to Hernandez — not quite as fast these days, but more experienced. If the idea of using Hernandez had been working (and don’t me wrong, I don’t blame him or Sir Alex that it didn’t), then having Owen available was a good idea. But if it didn’t, then having Owen was a waste. And not having Berbatov available was a tragedy.
@ Stateside Aussie
Agree that choosing Owen before the match turned out to be a mistake.A bigger error then was that as Rooney said yesterday on Talksport, Barca sometimes had six guys in midfield with Messi and Villa dropping in and Mascherano coming ahead. We did nothing after half time to change it. Scholesy and Fletch should have come on for Giggs and Hernandez and that would have given us some strength in midfield. Two guys in midfield closing down six also exhausted them that beyond a certain point we were unable to press which led to the Messi and Villa goals.
The subtext of these remarks could very easily be “I’m not going to be offloaded now, I want to see out the last year of my contract and then go on a free transfer with a big signing on fee thank you very much”
Alternatively, it could just be that he really does want to stay and fight Rooney, Chicharito, Welbeck, Owen and whoever else we might sign for that one or two places in the starting line up.
H’mmm.
Agree with others that the midfield is the area that requires the focus though. So it is very possible we’ll go into the new season with the five strikers listed above.
Brilliant fella. Love that guy. We should feel privledged that a player of his calibre has the desire to stay after being arguably mistreated. The guy is fuckin awesome. I’ll be gutted if fergie shifts him. Nuff said!
thanks park life, saves me the thought f changing my username, phew! glad he is staying though, and much competition for space up front, macheda must be loaned out again and mame diouf hmmn
I have seen this quite a few times last season, and I kindda like it. Why don’t SAF try putting the three strikers on the first 11 ? Berbatov is such a good anchor up front (especially during counters) and he has excellent one-two touch passes. Putting in the 3 strikers will also lift some pressure off Berbatov. Rooney can cover the hole in midfield if needed be since he likes to be everywhere anyway. With Berbatov and Rooney precise passing, I’m sure Hernandez/Nani/anyone will bag quite a few goals for us.
just my 2 cents
and also, this suits Berbatov who doesn’t like to run much…
@ Saad
I love Hazard, I think he is the best young prospect in football and can play wide or in the middle, looks shockingly like Messi when I watch him (in full matches, not just youtube videos) but every time i mention him he never picks up momentum on this blog, I am not sure why, I just hope he doesnt end up at Arsenal.
What are thoughts an Ganzo, I hear he is class but haven’t seen much of him, I know he plays an attacking midfield/playmaker role but haven’t heard him mentioned with us??
GOOOOOO PLEASE
@MG
3-5-2? Maybe this is what works best against them. But we couldn’t just pull it out of the hat for this one game if we haven’t used it on a regular basis. It could have been disastrous or a stroke of genius. It was best that we went with what brought us there. I would have started with a 4-5-1 in hindsight though.
@Paul H
I’d like to think it’s the latter. But he has a lot to do if he is going to take back his spot from Hernandez. It’s not just about those two though. It’s also how the rest of the team works around each player that could make up Fergie’s mind.
Anyway, I do feel there’s a chess game going on here. From both parties. Maybe we want him to stay at the club, but on different terms. Berb is playing his hand well thus far if I may say.
this guy is awesome, I love him! I feel ashamed that a guy with such an attitude like him, with his playing skill, his talent can be so badly treated as a member of a football team he has given quite a lot to. He fought to come to this club, and he has worked so hard this season I’d be sad to see him go. I love his spirit, and I’m glad he is staying! Long live Berba at man united!!
people talk about him not fitting into the current scheme of things……has everyone forgotten what he has done for the team when it was required the most!!….rooney and chicha combination is awesome and i luv it….but god forbid one of them gets injured then in berba we have the perfect fallback guy…..i would prefer berbatov to michel owen anyday when it comes to starting and influencing games…..Dont forget this guy is class and is capable of producing classi goals and passes that leave all of ur mermerised!!…..
GO BERBA!!!!!!
Right time for a few home truths.here. Whilst I understand Berba is a big favourite with some of you there is absolutely no need to abuse and insult other players while defending him. Football is a team game and all players are important. So cut the name calling and abuse. Costas you are always on here giving your opinions and fair enough you are entitled to but GhostViking is also just as entitled to his opinions as you are. Cut the nonsense and please don’t lets start pulling the race card. Just because GhostViking has a different opinion to you does not make him a racist. Personally I had enough of that rubbish from Lewis Hamilton over the weekend with reading it here.
One more thing who is the manager Fergie or you people. I hate to disapoint some of you but I have more faith in Fergies opinion than yours. He is infinitely better qualified to judge players abilities that anyone. So please allow Fergie to do his job. If Fergie decides to offload Berba there is nothing you can do about it anyway and I don’t think having Owen on the bench and not Berba was a mistake. That is my opinion but ultimately Fergie makes the final decision. I read one comment saying that if Fergie ever chose Owen over Berba again he would want us to lose. That is an utter disgrace and people like that clearly do not support the club anyway.
YES! this saved my day! Just failed my neruroanatomy exam, fucking Hungarians, Next try will be golden! Love that Berba is staying. Better touch than Messi, if we just play to his strenghts., I Love this man, even have his jersey (yes, the one we lost the final in)
Berbs is a true professional, love him or hate him but no one can fault his attitude. Top drawer!
MUFC Season Review: How we won our 19th!
http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/man-united-season-review-best-in-england-second-best-in-europe/
Next time pay attention to the conversation better Denise Williams.
1) GhostViking came here and called people deluded first. Go back and check it out at 12:09.
2) You don’t like it when people badmouth Owen. Read some of his “constructive critisism” on Berbatov at 12:09.
3) He said at 12:27 and I quote, “I’d bet most of the berbalovers be foreign”. That’s not racism at all right? It’s not about having a different opinion. It’s about bringing up someone’s origins to validate your comment. That’s crap and it has no place here. Not to mention stupid, since I’ve see a lot of United fans from England and Manchester that like Berbatov.
Next time you don’t like someone’s opinion, don’t put words in their mouth and learn to observe both sides of the coin. Thanks for coming.
portugeseprincess is now BulgarianBeauty
GhostViking is a wum. I wouldn’t even engage a fool like him. Berbatov is a favourite for many on here. Foreign, or not. If you don’t like the guy, fine. But, don’t chastise other people for liking him.
The first good news after Scholesy left. Must agree with all of you who praises Berbatovs attitude. This is the kind of players that makes Manchester United.
And dont chastise me for not liking him , works both ways does it not NuT?
How can some United fans even doubt Berba for his top season?
How can some United fans not even appreciate for what he have done for the club?
Have people forgot what he did against the scousers?
Berba is one of the big reasons why we are celebrating our 19th title.
Cant understand why some fans hate some of our players… I love all the players, dont matter, they play for United.
If hes going to be sold, then its a fucking shame. Berbatov loves United! Its not fair at all. I believe that Berba wants to end his career her at United.
Dont forget that he did sign for us and said fuck off to city.
Dont hate, appreciate.
One Love
Commenting that most on here who love berbatov are foreign is an observation. Nothing more, I may be wrong.
By the way my mate called it right , he said berbatov would be in a suit in the final.
He is 22 only a lil kid but he knows more about football than some here.
Thanks for insulting me by the way Nut,
I like the way you juddge someone you have never spoken to before.
Did Berbatov have 7 chances against bpool and miss all of them yes or no?
Maybe the reason SAF left Berba off the CL Final team is because Berba would not have been effective against Barcelona. Barca play fast and swift, something that Berbatov would have trouble with. SAF had to pick players who would be effective against the playing style of Barcelona, which Berbatov was not.
“Better touch than mesii” lmao fucking hell this forum is a berbatov forum not a football forum
Denise Williams never makes any sense all her posts are dribble
I believe Berba would be great against a team like Barcelona. He can hold the ball better than anybody else and letting the team move up. He is creative and thats something you have to be when facing Barcelona. Just my opinion.
off topic
palermo reject 33 million offer from chelsea for pastore
they want 44 million pounds for him
JESUS CHRIST
Berbatov wants to stay, Owen signed a new deal. Its time for some midfield purchases.
@Denton Davey 14:44 spot on mate. “The talent is there but I always have the feeling that he’s a square-peg-in-a-round-hole.” perfect assessment.
@MG 11:52 “We need WC midfielder – no need to change the striking department – injury free Michael Owen will be brilliant too, 19.” Brilliant as always.
JUNE 1, 2011 AT 11:53
Balaji Sivaraman perfect post as well.
Now for people who tear down other Man Utd players to make a case for their argument about who we should keep and who should play, FUCK OFF IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY !!!!!!!! DON’T TEAR DOWN MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON MAN UTD PLAYERS TO MAKE YOUR CASE PLEASE !!!
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@ Sachu, they’re indirectly seeking Man City’s attention
Berbatov is my favorite player, and I’d be devastated to see him leave United, but he just keeps showing how committed he is to the team and it’s future.
@dandivine
mate i think 44million is a bit too much for pastore surely
also if we seel obertan get 20 million for him
JUNE 1, 2011 AT 12:16
Saad says: About Danny Wellback SAF said he was growing so fast like 6′ to 6’3″ in one year or so he literally had growing injuries and thus the loan. He will grow into his new man body then SAF will asses to keep him or not, if Owen and Berba both stay SAF has a plan for Dan the Man.
How can anyone blame the little Pea, when posesion of the ball was almost 70% for Barcelona??? it clearly tells you on what side of the field the game was played!! Rooney defending and fighting in the midfield to regain the ball, left the Pea BY HIMSELF playing point against 4 world defenders that have won the champions league before.. Berbatov, would have done just about the same as Hernandez..
I do believe we are a very solid 2nd place, its just that at the moment, it feels like its still a loong way from the 1st.
Good for Berba is a great player, I do not put much attention to what the papers say, almost always lies.
@ Sachu, hahaha I agree with You. Just highlights the crazy football market these days, 44million! Someone’s having a laugh. A fine player but not fully proven on the world stage
JUNE 1, 2011 AT 16:17
@sachu says:
off topic
palermo reject 33 million offer from chelsea for pastore
they want 44 million pounds for him
JESUS CHRIST.
This is the market in the states gas has doubled in price in 5 years and a gallon of milk has gone up 75% and so on since the BEPL has become a Billionaire boyz club spending big has doubled in 7 years as well. 50 million is shit anymore.
Great News with Berba, a top Pro with a Top Attitude, variety is always needed in every department of the team. Hope He exceeds 20 goals next season, once We get top midfielder and a versatile winger i.e Modric/Sneijder and Young/…Sanchez? Lets Wait And See…
Transfer market has been fucking stupid for a few years now,when you have idiots city,rentboys and real over paying and a lot of clubs going broke looking to cash in.the whole thing is madness
Fellas can SAF transition Rooney to a full fledge CAM or is it to late? Better question. What is Rooney’s best position? withdrawn striker, lw , lonestriker or CAM? Kind of a novice question I know but I have never played the game.
@dandivine
mate i dont know who we are looking to sign
if pastore is 44 million
then sneijder is 70millon
modric is 40 million
i strongly belive if daniela de rossi leaves roma we will get him
he has only 1 year left on his contravt so we can get him for 20-22 million
and also i think we will get de gea young and rodwell
it will be fantastic if we can get these guys as they will be available at realistic prices
Hi,to everyone.I read your posts and can’t believe how can you criticise the boys,anyone.They’ve all got qualities in abundance but the problem was getting those qualities to win us the game,the only problem was we didn’t get much time on the ball,I don’t doubt Sir Alex The Great but was expecting more of him at least two or three shapes and the reality is He kept the formation the way we started.I’ve been saying to all my mates that if we played 4-6-0 the way As Roma played with Totti,no4 would’ve been easily achieved and at the same time play most of our midfielders and have a bench with strikers not with midfielders,even Sir Alex said the important battles will be won or lost in midfield.If we stuffed our midfield Barsa would be playing the carousel in their own half impotent and they would be there for the taking because they would need to all come out to be able to have a chance to score.I adore Sir Alex but he needed to be bolder and more exotic as when he played 6defenders vs Arsenal I think that’s the gentleman trying to go out on a good note.
P.S was very scared to see Sir Alex’s hands shake very violently with 10mins.to go,fuck the final don’t wanna lose that man,I’ve allmost started crying worrying for him
@wayne
there definetely novalue in the market this year
thats for sure so we have look to sign playyers who have 1 year left on there contracts like de rossi young and nasri
roma are out of CL SO DE ROSSI COULD LEAVE
and he will be a great addition
I Have got agree with Viking, Vilhelm & Dennis Walliams here
Berbatov is such a bad footballer, he had the chance to join Man Shitty for Higher Wages But the Beautiful Man picked us. WHY?? Also he says he loves the club?? yeh sure so does Solskjaer doesn’t make him anymore liked within United
The Worst Thing Of All Is That Hes Scored The Most Equaliser/Winners this Season, i think its poor 9 but doesn’t that Mean Berbatov Being In The Team Guarantees the team needing to equalise or win with him on it. Use LOGIC if he is SOLD We Wont Need To Rely on Him for goals, assists, depth in striking areas.
Berba’s like marmite – love him or hate him. I think we owe our 19th to him – no doubt, along with nani, when several players went missing on the pitch for first half of season. delighted he wants to stay. Get that jar of marmite open!!
In the US there has been free agents in sport for 35 years now. So my feelings when it first started was why leave the club and so on. Then realized it was big business and the owners had slaves or indentured servants in the players, and the owners were making all the money. That stunk give it to the players like all other entertainment business’s. Movie stars, rock stars ect.
Players move for money, weather, location, and big clubs. Man Utd is in the UK so the tax structures hurt the big money part, the weather in Manchester sucks, ( at least London is London) so you have the Big Club allure. 1 of 4 reasons for players to come to the club. It is a great reason to come. This is a reality.
The only way to force people to face their stupidity is hold their feet to the fire.
So GhostViking at 12:27-What the hell were you talking about ? Maybe he did it to get people to comment on his post. I guess it worked, but at the risk of sounding silly ? It wouldn’t be worth it to me. And if Berbatov leaves that leaves us with two players that play a similar style (Chicha and Owen).
@warick No one person won 19 the team did. Without 5 to 8 players Man Utd would still be on 18.
Class player, and great attitude, but as I’ve said before- just not a “Utd” player. Doesn’t fit into our style of play, and in addition, when it comes to the big, high pressure situations and the heat has been on- more often than not he doesn’t show.
Yes, he’d be a great back up option to have (variety and all that)- but for his wages, that’s out of the question. We’re not Real Madrid who can have Kaka as a back up and still pay him shitloads. Berba’s wages can easily go to that new, quality centre mid we might be getting.
With owen signing a new deal, and Wellbeck returning (I’m sure of that, SAF has said it many times)- I can’t see a space for Berba.
as regarding new players,we don’t need any,we’ve got everything that we need,lots of young players coming back from loans,enough experienced players still in the team apart from PIG and if ashley young comes then I only see Obertan leaving with Bebe having a year to prove himself.Looking forward to see Cleverley get enough recognition and time to show his qualities,would be very sorry for Macheda if it ends like that after helping us to no18.The boy’s got potential but front line at Utd and all the games are cut throat,no time for learners.which is a pity
My Mate’s Dad’s Brother In Law’s Cousin’s Friend who knows a guy at BP Knows a guy that works for British Airways Overheard a Guy that owns A Pub which was Visited by Bobby Charlton Who lost his list, found it, which just happened to be the exact list he was about to deliver as a Message from Fergie to David Gill and it had exact Transfer targets & trade deals written down and I just Scanned the list on ROM so keep it Hush Hush.
Sergio Romero
Ganso
Sanchez
Rolando
Miguel Veloso
gibson – adam
obertan – young
@sachu I’ll be surprised if sir alex spends 40 mill + on anyone guess it depends if he believes the youngsters are ready to step in
I can’t see him and Owen staying – none of the youngsters would be able to break through. My view – and I know it;s worth half a p – sell. Berba is divisive for a reason – he is skillful, but inconsistent, insecure and the manager does not rate him highly. SAF puts him fourth despite his goals, that says alot.
I think if an offer comes in Berba will be used as a make weight, he needs to move on, we need 4 competitive strikers not 2 who are automatically on the bench – Owen also being injury prone – and Berba who SAF does not have faith in to get a goal under pressure which is what you want of someone on the bench – ie if you don’t start and can’t score under pressure off the bench then the boss is not using in you in a way you will deliver and 30 million and 100,000 a week is a lot for a bench warmer. Also Berba is a confidence player and he is prone to be insecure, so being on the bench as much as he is means he will not be delivering on the pitch with confidence. Not to be skeptical, but I also doubt he would get the same wages elsewhere.
A Benzema , Henry or a tall Drogba style forward to terrorise defences would be a plus. Versus Barca they were short but we lacked height, strength and pace at the front to bring the ball down in Drogba style and then turn and terrorise the defence.
@wayne i agree
i dont think he will spend big on 1player
de rossi will be a great signing it wont cost more than 20-22million
and thats not big money these days
ALEX THE GREAT says, as regarding new players, we don’t need any. I stopped reading after that, sorry.
If you ever see Barca’s team up close you will notice a massive lack of height. Only Pique is anywhere near over 6ft. I agree with NBI Red Onion, sell Berba and get a Drogba style forward who can hold the ball up and turn with it. It was unbelieveable that we never exploited their lack of height. Seriously they are a bunch of midgets.
@willie
we definetely need a gk plus at least 1 midfielder
looks like it will be young de gea and 1 more hopefully de rossi rodwell
as those two will be available at realistic prices
@willie lol no need hahahahahahahaha
Classy. Can someone enlighten me with regards to any songs we have for him?
Who can tap into Gills phone records, who is he calling??????? come on lads any spy’s in Manchester?
Time for the equivalent of the transfers of Andro, Nani and Hargo. Same now will cost 50% more. SPEND THE FUCKING MOONEY, ERROR ON THE SIDE OF ONE TO MANY !!!!!!
I am a foreigner…. Oh wait, now that I am back in my own country I am actually a citizen and not a foreigner….
Phew, I am glad I got that bit sorted
Chuffed to bits if Berba stays
@zibbie
well gill did say it will be a busy summer and player tuff will be done in first few weeks of june
When De Gea signs is name is great for song. De Heya, Talley my Bananas’ Deeeee O.
@cedars
hhow are u mate
i want the berb to stay
@willerednut mate i read your posts and you’ve got my respect,do you really think we’re lightweight anywhere or you don’t count the boys on our books or you don’t have faith in them and please tell me why you can’t trust younger player after all it’s the quality that’s brought them to the level they’re now at and how can you judge that they won’t be able to build on it with even better players around them.Do you really think we need to chop and change because of one game which could’ve easily been won with the midfielders that we’ve got(Nani/Park,Giggs,Scholes,Rooney,Carrick/fletch,Toni) I Love UNITED mate and truly believe that we could’ve won it with packed midfiled and bench with Smalling,Berba,Chicha and Owen.
and is everyone making a dud out of Torres cause he needs time to get used to the team and the system is it certain that the new players will fit properly???respect mate
Johnny Foreigner? lol.
@ Denise Williams
You seriously have to get the reading glasses on before u accuse Costas of anything. GhostViking claiming Berba fans to be foreign?? :S I dont even know how to react to that statement. Stopped reading GV’s posts after that load of rubbish.
@GhostViking
Seems to me you’re the type of shallow fan who’s quick to jump on the “sell-the-out-of-form” player bandwagon. Berbatov is useless eh? You went so far as to claim his 20 goals don’t matter? Because its mostly Nani’s and Valencia’s work?? Given Rooney’s form at the first half of the season, would Rooney have converted all the chances that Berba had? How come i don’t see u slagging off Rooney? Shoud we have sold Rooney in January as well? Just cause Rooney was disrupting our play with embarrasing first touches? The stats speak for themselves, that Berba has scored the most WINNING goals for us this season. The most vital contribution to our 19th title is down to our HOME form. And guess just WHO loves scoring at home for us? Sorry for the 101 questions but just take ur time to answer them and then get back to me when u finally (hopefully) realise how deluded u sounded earlier.
@cedars foreigner is a band from Kansas, Dust in the wind, all we are is dust in the wind. They wrote that in 1977 when splitting up an 8-ball of coke a gust of wind came up and…….
Willie
No, the ‘I wanna know what love is one’
sachu
I am well buddy, thanks for asking
bayern sign neur
If I was Gills cell phone, I would be looking into
1. de Rossi,
2. Schnieder
3. Couple of under 21s worth a punt Eden Hazard, Mario Gotze,
4. Making sure no one is touching our top youngsters,
The class of 2011, King, Tunni, Morrison, Thorpe, Keane, Pogba
Zibbie (aka my favorite user name on RoM!!)
Ya I know my friend, I like their music a lot
Bernd Schneider? Is he still playing?
BTW, Latest is the Neuer has signed for Bayern. So that horse has defo run. As we knew it had.
Think the de Gea (de HAY-YA) thing will be done at the end of the month.
RedLife … “sell Berba and get a Drogba style forward who can hold the ball up and turn with it. It was unbelieveable that we never exploited their lack of height. Seriously they are a bunch of midgets.”
Berba is 6ft-2, uses his strength and height well. Earlier this season, he out-jumped and out-muscled Jamie Carragher to score a wonderful headed goal, and while Carragher might be a scouse prick, he’s also a pretty good center back and no lightweight in size or height. In the same match, Berbatov easily shrugged off the attentions of Torres for his first goal, and again, Torres is no midget. Not to mention that if there’s one thing even the Berb’s detractors agree he’s good at, it is holding up the ball.
You’re right, it is unbelievable that we never tried to exploit their lack of height. It is also unbelievable that in the one match-up where they could get a height advantage over us — by using Pique — we allowed them to do that by fielding Hernandez for the entire match. I have already pointed out how easily 6ft-3 Pique was able to deal with high balls when competing against 5ft-9 Little Pea — Pique didn’t even need to jump. Equally unbelievable that the one forward on our team who could have done that best, wasn’t even on the bench.
ALEX THE GREAT – Where did I say I don’t have faith in the younger players? I would like United to sign a keeper and a central midfielder. These areas need strengthening IMO. And funny enough, the manager says he wants 3 players. He feels the squad needs new blood. I don’t know why you mentioned Torres, so I’ll pass on that one.
Cedars in your mother tung , Zibbie is at the mike.
@Sachu, Cheers mate
@Fred You making fun of my tired nobby fingers and piss poor typing skills then? Ha !
@ceadrs I made a mistake and told the wrong friend what my name means in your language. Now he calls me Zib Head.
lol @ Zibbie……… hahahaha Zib head…… hilarious
@Sachu, De Rossi for 20-22 million with a year left? I think its expensive BUT I Haven’t seen Him play that much, thus it might be too hasty for a verdict. The reason I’d love Modric is cos of His experience in English Football. On Young, heard last night that His agent was in talks with Liverpool (These Agents) On the Whole, I think We’re in for some surprises for Sir Alex This summer…
ALEX THE GREAT – You cant just go in get reserve players and expect them to performe, me and willie think the same, the engine room needs sorting out for well over 2 years now, rome 2009 was an eye opener how short united were of quality in that area
@FletchTHEMAN – Hahaha! All good fun, pal
I want Sneijder too (probably more chance of us signing Bernd Schneider these days!) LOL
I’m a brit living in canada does that make me a foreigner
I’m a big Sanchez fan and have not heard his name as of late. Inter might have him. He said his dream club is Man Utd. Speed, control, fast with the ball, a touch of magic in him as well.
@wayne no one is a foreigner in Canada A!
wayne
We need to look into this one buddy….. There seems to be an expert here, perhaps we should ask him
I think Ash Young is gonna be a player for us. I’m nailing my colours to the mast right now, like I did the day Chicharito signed. Ashley Young will be a star for us, mark my words.
Funny, didn’t see all this Berba-hatred back in the first half of the season, when he was busy laying the foundation for us to win #19. You know, back when WR10 was sticking his finger up at the club and the manager and holding us to ransom, and going to Oregon for a rest; when Hernandez was still finding his feet. After The Berb single-handedly won us the match against the dippers, I don’t recall people coming on here saying “he’s not a big-game player” or “he doesn’t score important goals”. And before anyone leaps in and tells me that the dippers aren’t a big club anymore — hold your tongue. Because that was only the fifth match of the season, so no one knew back then that dippers were on their way to becoming ordinary, before a late-season revival into respectability. In fact, it was that defeat that set the trend for their descent into mediocrity, and The Berb was single-handedly responsible for it. Oh how quickly and easily we forget! Oh, how easy it is to rewrite history!
StatesideAussie
Hope all is well my friend….. The term fickle comes to mind buddy, add plastic and shallow to that as well
@Cedars that’s a good idea because I could be considered a foreigner in canada but also a foreigner to rom.so maybe I’m just a foreigner period.little confused
How about Elsa Schneider from Indiana Jones?
@Cedars
We are foreigners and damn proud of it. I never thought a United and would come up with a Man Shitty joke. That’s sad.
@Stateside Aussie
Like I said yesterday mate, some of these fans were nowhere to be seen after the Liverpool game in September. I went back and read the threads, lol.
Damn everyone’s on this thread, just posted on the other one. I knew Berba would stay unless he was asked to leave. I don’t know why there was such a knee jerk reaction to the Owen contract extension that Berbatov would leave. They have shared the same squad for the last 2 seasons :S
Off topic, just read that Ruud signed for Malaga. They got taken over by some billionaire, didn’t they? Haha tough luck to Blackburn lol.
The Young thing baffled me at first, because I don’t rate him ahead of nani and Valencia. But I can sort of see SAF’s thinking, if he does end up signing him. It’s all about versatility in the front line.
Go back to when we won the Double in 2008- the great thing about the Ronaldo-Rooney-Tevez tro was that they could all go out to either flank, second striker, or lone forward. On top of this, nani and Park could also swap flanks with Ronaldo if need be, so the interchange was great.
Last year, we generally played 4-3-3 with Valencia-Rooney-Nani (or at times Park/Giggs). As versatile as Rooney is, SAF was insistent that he would exclusively play up front (due to our lack of players in that position). On top of that, Valencia can only operate on the right. That basically meant we were a bit too fixed and rigid.
This year it’s been a bit more fluid when Rooney plays in the hole, and sometimes switches with whoever the left winger is. If Young comes, don’t be surprised if you see sometimes see a 4-2-3-1 type formation, with a ’3′ of Nani-Rooney-Young all switching around behind Chicha. Throw in someone like Wellbeck who can play as central striker, wide man, or second striker (his best games for Sunderland were when he was playing off Gyan IMO- he’s an extremely intelligent player), Giggsy, Park etc and it could be interesting. Rotation is the name of the game so Valencia will still get chances of course.
@fergie s the boss n @willierednut ,it’s up to you guys if you think like that ,we’ve got Ando having a proper preseason Fletch anew,Golden Johhny who can play anywhere,attacking midfielder in Scholes mould like Cleverley or Rooney maybe pulling back a bit there are lots of options when barca can even play masch.in centr.def. we doubt our own players when our undoing was the tactical approach.We couldn’t use Chicha’s pace cause we didn’t get time on the ball and it was too much one dimensional only playing through him.As good as Chicha is we would’ve been better with Nani on the wing and Park let to roam between Messi n Xavi,with Roo playing his defensive part and the attacking bit.
P.S please tell me who of Nani,Park,Giggs,Rooney n Toni can’t score in counter attack.Guys no diss we’re all hurt but I trust them fully they got us no19,young is coming to make a better player out of Nani
The more I think about the Young signing, the more I think it’ll be a good idea. We were desperately short of wingers at a point this season due to injuries and couldn’t play Obertan or Bebe so we obviously need cover. He’ll also provide more of an attacking option than Park and is a decent set-piece taker, something we’ve sorely lacked. I wonder who we’re going to go for in midfield though, Fergie always conducts his transfers in such a ‘cloak and dagger’ manner lol.
YAY! He needs to work on his finishing and i reckon a top top season for him and us next year. Top lad! Good to have people like him in the dressing room
@StatesideAussie – Look pal, I can’t speak for anyone else but all I was doing was backing someone up who said Ferguson doesn’t trust him. That Liverpool game seems to be the only big game any of us can remember him playing in in the last two seasons. I’m not dissing the man, he was brilliant this season and I can’t understand why Fergie has frozen him out. Baffling really.
@Costas – aye, Elsa Schneider. We can sign Sean Connery too while we’re at it, junior!
wayne – you seem confused buddy, must hook you up with a dick head here, I am sure he will help…
Costas – We are not foreigners my friend, we are UNITED… Racist pricks can go and……. finish the sentence
jellybean- How have you been? Missed you here…. Care for a couple of flat liners?
Nice to see people getting on the Ashley Young bandwagon now that he has my endorsement.
ALEX THE GREAT – the midfield was found out on saterday, carrick fletcher are good but not great, anderson I am not convinced same with gibson. Valencia and nani are quality, cleverly where does he play., We tried having rooney drop deep, but unless we have the CM upgraded rooney hernandez or who ever plays there are gonna be useless when we face sides like barca and we will be beaten again, its simple.
@Cedars
Lol, I like the civilized you.
@Fred
Great. Now if you only endorse Heskey.
Fred
You have my endorsement buddy, your posts crack me up!
Cheers
Fred, I wasn’t having a shot at you in particular, in fact, I hadn’t even read any of your posts. But as for big games: these days, every match in the PL is a big game — in that none of them (or very, very few) can be taken for granted. As I’ve said before, three years ago, in the Fat Spanish Waiter’s last season with the dippers, they came second in the league and we won — yet that was the year when they had the wood on all of the other three members of the “big four”, beating us twice, beat the rent boys twice, and two draws against The Arse. So why did they come second? Because they consistently dropped points against mid to lower table teams. Some matches have a higher profile than others, for lots of reasons — history, geography, whatever. But in terms of winning the PL, every match these days is “big”.
I’d be the first to admit that The Berb’s greatest value may be in his ability to unlock a massed defense, which is largely what we get when playing lower teams, especially when they come to OT. But unlike others, I don’t dismiss that as a trivial or insignificant or “lesser” thing. Because these days, it’s those matches that hold the key to winning the league. Simple as.
@Fred
I dont want Ashley Young. I think he is over-rated and will be available only at an over-inflated price.
Cant see him adding much value.
Also, personally, I hate him. A big cheat, thats what he is.
@ StatesideAussi
Fair comment but I disagree. Berbatov is not that great at keeping possession, he tends to get stuck in corners and by the line and lose the ball and with Barca he would have been surrounded pretty quickly. He can take a ball down, he loses it pretty quickly against good teams.
Ashley Young is fucking shit – he can’t do fuck all more than Danny Welbeck can
If he can then I must be fucking warped
Also Berba must be fucking useless – when the going was fucking tough he kept us going – the fact that it was the gaffer’s decision to change tactics and go with Hernandez and that Berba kept the faith means that when so called fans think they have the measure of him then it’s fucking useless
Go ahead take away his goals and we wouldn’t be celebrating history here
Fucking comical and suicidal
Would Ashley Young have the better of Barca?
Fuck no – that’s not the player we need in midfield – we need playmakers destroyers – engine rooms not fucking wannabes
ALEX THE GREAT – It’s not just me that thinks like that, It’s the manager also and quite a few on here, I would guess. There is high hopes Pogba, Morrison, Tunnicliffe and Cleverley can make an impression in the first team squad next season. But, that doesn’t mean United don’t need a couple of signings as well. The boss thinks we do and I for one, agree with him.
I heard Liverpool are still in the running for Young. Hope they get him!
If Young joins us, where does that leave Bebe?
Cedars- Hiya. Flatliners are a kind of shot, aren’t they? Haha everytime I got on RoM the last few days I think it was really late and people were asleep
I’ve been out of the loop. Catch me up, what are we talking about here 
@StatesideAussie – great points, well made.
I don’t want to give the impression that I was bashing the Berb at all. If you check my only post about him you’ll see I was only playing devil’s advocate really.
@Costas & CedarsDevil – LOL! Good stuff.
@AnomanderRake – Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, man.
Stateside- “I’d be the first to admit that The Berb’s greatest value may be in his ability to unlock a massed defense, which is largely what we get when playing lower teams, especially when they come to OT. But unlike others, I don’t dismiss that as a trivial or insignificant or “lesser” thing. Because these days, it’s those matches that hold the key to winning the league. Simple as.”
Agreed, but as I’ve said- can we afford his wages on a player who more often than not will be used as a back up? Rooney and Chicha will be Fergie’s preferred 2, no doubt. But a 30 year old on close to 100k a week does not make economical sense. Owen is cheaper and probably more happy with a limited role- add that to Wellbeck and one of Macheda/Diouf, and I think we might be covered.
As for your definition of a big game- I can sort of see where you’re coming from, but would you say that the pressure when playing certain teams in the league i.e the teams in and around us, is the same as when playing the lower teams, particularly in a home game?
As an example, I think back to Chelsea at OT last season, (and even City in the cup semi this year) – games where we were without our frontline striker/s, the heat was on in terms of pressure (title/cup final on stake)…..and he didn’t turn up. Not just in terms of goals, but his overall shift.
WTF is this? The anti-Young movement is gathering steam!
If all else fails, and we need cash, we can flog Bebe and Obertan to Chelsea or City for 50mn.
MG … right on, brother.
I also am not holding my breath waiting for Ashley Young. I hope the boss doesn’t see Young as an important part of his plan for dismantling Barcelona. If he does, then all I can say is that our best plan for Barca is to hope someone else does the job for us so we never have to play them. I mean, when SAF said that, after Saturday, and then Gill and the Glazers said the checkbook was ready, I have to confess, the name “Ashley Young” wasn’t anywhere on the last of names that sprang to my mind when considering who we might buy in order to achieve that.
As for the “buy” versus “build” argument, it will surely be a bit of both. That’s what we’ve done in the past, and here’s no reason to think it will, or should, be different this time. So, starting with the new season, and over the next few seasons, I think we’ll see a combination of some high-profile purchases (plus, maybe, Ashely Young lol) and the academy players coming through. Best way to go, imo.
jellybean – hello my darling (I hope King Eric does not read this statement!) lol
A flat liner is a half tequila half sambuca shot with a few drops of tabasco…. Gets you wasted in no time lol
As far as RoM is concerned, just the usual, we have to deal with the idiots and suffer the agony of a long summer with out United…..
I think Young will be like a Valencia on the left. V. Useful, talented. But no Ronaldo.
guys need to go to study got exams coming up in a weeks time,will read your posts later,it’s great to read all the constructive conversation and wish we could get the opinion from the boys on the front line but that’s me dreaming.Take care all
@MG no way is he fucking shit – no way. The man’s delivery is top draw, you watch him start putting crosses on a plate for Vidic, Rooney and Hernandez the way he used to for that Danish defender Villa had two or three seasons ago (can’t remember his name for the life of me!)
NBI Red Onion 19:14
Hahahaha, throw in useless players like Gibson and Evans, we would get 100 million!
Martin Laursen! LOL here he is giving his opinion on our noisy neighbours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cFM8DloJkg
Bebe is NOT a winger.
Bebe SHOULD NOT BE a winger.
Neither should Danny Welbeck.
Danny Welbeck should be and IS a centre-forward.
Fred
Laursen you mean?
Whinger says they are 5% away from winning the league. I believe he made a mistake. He probably meant they are 95% away from winning the league
Put it this way, if Young signs for us he will be the best thing since sliced bread as far as I’m concerned. If he signs for the dippers then he’s a useless turd who can go fuck himself.
For those who do not know Fred, well Fred is a red who likes to take the mickey and have a piss take….Enjoy and laugh people….. He is a true RED
That’s the one, Dunny! Thanks a lot.
Fred
Again
Really? How old is he? How many European teams has he played against?
Cutting the long story short can you tell me how many times he played last season? – how many goals did he score? How many assists?
Then from that can you tell me how many times did he score and assist against who?
Please enlighten me – I thought we needed squad enhancing to beat Barca – I must be living in another alternate universe.
PMSL! Thanks Cedars!
Anybody here a fan of Aston Villa’s Marc Albrighton?
Albrighton, Bannan, Clark, Delfouneso…Villa have got a great batch of padawans coming thru their ranks.
I like Barry Bannan too. Good player.
@MG – I can get those stats for you, sure thing. Let me tell you something now: Ashley Young can be our Messi.
Basically Berbatov is like a porn star you watch and drool at.
Then you get the porn star and bring them home.
At the start nothing much happens, the porn star seems nervous and slouches on the sofa, a little unbother, disappointed you get some drinks and talk about the cool posters in your bedroom of Giggs and Scholes, hinting hard.
Finally! It happens, the porn star drags you in the room and does it 5 TIMES!!! Wow, the moves, your head almost explodes! Yes you think – this is it.
The next day, you feel good, you get an orange juice, sit with the lady and pat her on the thigh and say, come on – slowly she follows you into the bed room, you dim the lights and trun around, destracted by a whistling sound – she is fast asleep snoring. You cannot wake her. When you finally wake her, she just lies there and does her nails, but night after night, you stare at your posters of Giggs and Scholes and sigh, but you keep on at it because that memory of that one night which you hope will be repeated…occassionally, you cry,
With Berba more likely staying and Owen signing a new deal… where does it leave Welbeck
Surely he deserves a chance in the first team?
@Saad
I liked Albrighton from what I saw last season. Maybe more than Young. I saw more potential there.
They have, Saad. I seem to remember their reserves giving ours an absolute walloping this season. They also beat Arsenal’s reserves 10-1! :-0
Barry Bannan is very highly rated as a pass-master. United should seriously consider getting him. He’s only 21.
@NBI Red Onion – yep, we’ve all been there pal!
Is this Fred the Red taking some downtime from wearing a hot devil suit?
@Saad – I don’t remember much about his play but that name of his is a shocker. Thumbs down for me.
Fred
You are so wrong, Young will be a combo of Pele, Maradona and Law combined, you have your stats wrong there buddy….
Still cannot believe that some are not getting the humor of your posts!
By hot I mean it looks very warm in that thing lol. The only person to don a hot devil suit was Liz Hurley. Or hot college chicks on Halloween…
Fred – two things
When you cannot tell me what Ashley Young has done for Villa last year yet he’s good enough for United – I apologise for the way I respond to you – but that’s fucking immature and bollocks.
Secondly Danny Welbeck is equal or better than Ashley Young – the kid can play up front as Steve Bruce used him or on the wings – that’s how he has been drilled at United
Thirdly Ashley Young equals Messi? At that point you lost your argument hands down
The fact that I consider Xavi to be the best player in the world is one thing – but Ashley Young couldn’t even lace up Messi’s one boot let alone dictate and kill a game like he can.
Football Manager does not equate to real life – sorry for the blast – but I know I’m right because I know exactly how Ashley Young has fared – and he’s not up to it.
@jellybean
I believe that’s him dear. We are talking to a celeb.
Two things plus one
@MG – hold on, I’m still finding those stats for you. The Messi comment was obviously tongue in cheek!
@MG – LMFAO! I missed that!
@Fred
Who cares about his name. The scouting reports on him are serious. Several credible sources state he’s really good.
MG
Fred is a true RED my friend, he loves to joke and take the piss, just read between the lines buddy
I for one vouch for him…. If that means anything!
MG … I have to think Fred was kidding when he used that line about Young = Messi. Only StevieMe uses lines like that and is serious about them (Joe Cole = Messi, remember?). Fred, you weren’t serious, were you? Say it ain’t so, Fred!
jellybean – did you get the combo of that drink?
Of course Fred wasn’t serious. He meant to say Naseri = Messi.
Ashley Young’s career stats can be viewed here: http://www.football-lineups.com/footballer/1896/ Plenty of goals and assists in there, including against the likes of us, Arsenal and Chelsea no less.
Lol it IS Fred the Red, then?
Bebe > Young
Neuer to Bayern finally done.
Next up:
De Gea to…(any day now!)
Saad – De Gea is done. Just has to wait till his manager problem is sorted out.
Fred > Chubby Brown
Davies > Drogba
Susan Boyle > Megan Fox
Cedars > anyone who isn’t a true Red
@ CedarsDevil – yes I did, sir. I actually didn’t know what was in it before but i’ve had them before i think, which is how i knew they were shots. Not that I remember actually, but my boyfriend says I’ve had them with him, so I’ll take his word for it!
@ Fred- Ashley Young is no Messi, he’s CR7. Bale is the Welsh Messi! lol
I’m hearing some very sinister talk on the grapevine that Ashley Young is going to Liverpool, not United. You lot will be thrilled to hear this no doubt!
If it’s true, he must have shit for brains – either that or United never wanted him in the first place, just like the ridiculous Joe Cole rumours last year.
Next thing we’ll hear is that De Gea is staying at Atletico.
Costas > GhostViking
Ashley Young stats for Aston Villa
Played: 188
Scored: 37
Assisted: 54
* Important to notice that his strike force for the majority of his Villa career has been Carew, Agbonglahor, Heskey so his assists are impressive. His crosses form a great partnership with the defender Laursen the same could be done with Vidic.
Also Nani hasn’t been as great on the left as he has been on the right. Nani on the right = fantastic player – Nani on the left = average most of the time.
Valencia very rarely uses his left foot. Giggs is going to be used in CM role mostly next season. Park handy for a goal is not the most creative. Cleverley and Welbeck can do a job there but are more effective in their natural positions.
He has a fantastic cross on him… two footed…. quick and can take set pieces.
He can play on the left – the right and in Rooney’s role.
I’m not saying he would be an outstanding signing… but he could turn out to be a very good one.
He’d also be relatively cheap around 15 million. So instead of signing an Alexis Sanchez for about 30 we can sign him and have more funds to buy a quality central midfielder while still improving the squad.
United have leaked the story about Young, to put the red tops off the real intended target.
@ Fred
Young is definitely a good player but,
Messi scored 53 goals this season.
Young scored 7.
The only way he becomes our Messi is if Messi becomes shite next season. ‘Nuff Said.
jellybean – I am not surprised you do not remember my friend. Them sort of shots tend to erase the memory! hahahaha
Staying with the latest theme here
Willie > Every non United fan
@Fred
I like those padawans at Villa seem like they could have a promising team in the future under a good manager.
Barry Bannan & Clark are my favourites from Villa.
I also like a certain power horse from Arsenal, Nicklas Bendtner – The Next Big Thing According to the Bendtner Household 2011.
EveryBody Loves Willy ?
@ Fred
Heard about Young to Liverpool on the radio too.
Whether he comes to United or not I genuinely do not want that.
He will raise the quality of that side and the strike force there is better, if only marginally
, than Villa’s
urval87 – He was being sarcastic. Bebe > Messi
My 2 year old daughter > Barca + Real + Every other football team out there except United
Papii we all love a willie…. oh sorry I mean Willie
He is after all the one line genius
Anyone who thinks that Owen signing a one year contract is going to ruin Welbeck’s United career is off their trolley. Does anyone actually believe that Ferguson is going to sacrifice such a great prospect just to keep Michael Owen around. What’s the bloody harm in keeping him around. He doesn’t cause any fuss and he’s got all the experience in the world and is capable of scoring vital goals. This is good news for us and only strengthens our squad for next season. Let’s not forget that Welbeck has been deployed quite a bit on the left side of midfield for Sunderland. There’s room in the squad for Rooney Hernandez Berbatov Owen and Welbeck. I’ve said it a million times before, if Welbeck is good enough he will get his chance to prove it and he will have a long United career, if he’s not good enough then he’ll have a career somewhere else. Who at the start of the season would have thought that Hernandez would be starting a European Cup final for us in May. He kept producing the goods until he proved himself too good to be left out. The same will apply to Welbeck.
I Love the fact that Willie & Nut is used in the same name without Arousing Suspicion Hmm
He’s The Ground’s Keeper Wille of ROM
Owen is a Scouser and as such can never be trusted. He probably sold our tactics to Barca.
Clint – Keep It a secret.
Fred
Was thinking the same mate…. I believe you are on to something buddy……
Willie
Do not call him Clint… Call him Papii
With the great one retiring does anyone think there’s any use in us putting in a massive bid for Fagregas?
I know he seems to have his heart set on Barcelona but maybe it’s worth testing the waters. I mean if Real Madrid can get Figo off Barcelona then surely anything is possible.
Byron, although Fabregas would be a sensational signing, he probably feels as though he belongs back at Barca with all his bum chums like Pique, Messi and Busquets. Arsenal would not sell him to us either. No chance whatsoever of him coming here.
OK, lads… After 7 hours of boredom at office, I am here with my unofficially official Manchester United 2011-12 line up.
De Gea (I wanted Stekelenburg, thats how it is, need to deal with this spainard, 2nd choice Lindegaard)
rafael, vidic, rio, evra (2nd choice- O’shea, evans, smalling, fabio)
Valencia, Carrick, Nani (2nd choice – Cleverly, one left winger, giggs, one holding mf, gibson, fletcher, fabio)
Rooney (2nd choice – I dont know, one more signing? anderson?, Gibson?)
Berba, chicha (2nd choice – Owen, wellback, Rooney?)
Rotate according to the PL, CL, games…. for CL, Rooney + Ando in the hole n chichrito away n berba home upfront…
more importantly –
- Play berbatov consistantly n he will give you lots of goals.
- Stop considering rooney as striker n allow him to develope as excellent passer of the game, a one who can control the game + can score, just like scholes used to do, only that Rooney can give greater work rate.
- Beat fucking barcelona next time, dont go hiding like we did twice in last two games… they are not gods… just pass the fucking ball 8 times in their half n they will concede the goal, just like they did last weekend. start believing that you can beat barcelona n you WILL beat them.
@ Fred and Cedars- you two may actually hv smth there lol. He was tweeting abt how he was playing Villa in training, and whaddya know? Villa starts on the right in the final instead of the left where he’s been playing all season for Barca. Damn that Scouse double agent lol!
Just before I sign off I thought I would share some quotes from the greatest ever football player to grace the field and my own personal hero ….. George Best (RIP)
- I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
- I’ve stopped drinking, but only while I’m asleep.
- I used to go missing a lot… Miss Canada, Miss United Kingdom, Miss World.
- I once said Gazza’s IQ was less than his shirt number and he asked me: “What’s an IQ?”
I will never be able to love a football player more than I love George Best RIP my friend,
NBI Red Onion @ 19:16
Spot on young i think he is just a poor man’s valencia with a better left foot, i dont see how that is improving the team unless the goal is to just consolidate our domestic place
@Cedars – hear, hear. RIP George Best
NBI Red Onion
Love the analogy about Berbatov and the pornstar. Think you’ve got issues mate.
Anyway, enough about porn and lets talk about football. I posted after the CL final that Sir Alex was showing a ruthless streak designed to hurt and undermine the confidence of a loyal and unassuming player who despite his laid back style has undoubted natural ability that when executed, can leave the supporters awestruck.
The decision to sign Owen on a one year contract today as well as the recalls of Welbeck and Macheda make me more convinced than ever that Berbatov is being reluctantly pushed out and is being lined up as a bargaining chip for the Manager’s summer transfer targets.
That is all well and good as in the manager we trust but if this is the case lets have a little more transparency. I personally believe Fergie has got a real bee in his bonnet about the two chances Berbatov missed in the semi against City, albeit the first one was denied by a world class save by Hart.
I have a few theories based on Dimitar’s market value of £8million based on the length of his current contract. Please feel free to take the piss and comment on them if you think I am talking shite.
1. Berbatov part ex. Ashley Young.Young can play through the middle, has pace,power and might free Rooney up to play in a Paul Scholes type role given his range of passing, positional sense and vision.
2. Berbatov part ex. Modric. Spurs fans would love him back and would deflect a lot of the shit that would be aimed at Daniel Levy for selling Spur’s best players.
3. Berbatov and Carrick part ex. Modric.Not too much cash outlay. Would allow funds to pick up a quality midfielder to complement Modric. Would love to think Schneider but fear that City will outbid us on any Marquee players.
4. Berbatov straight swap Joey Barton. (I can hear you all laughing!). Since Keane left we have never had anyone in Midfield who can seriously leave his foot in.Barton was on Fergie’s radar before he kicked fuck out of someone in a MacDonalds in Liverpool and got sent to prison. Gets stuck in, great passer.great shot and good in a fight. Big Sam said he was one of the best professionals he ever managed. Berbatov was also a Newcastle supporter in Bulgaria when he was a kid and would love going back to the ‘Big fish,Small pond’ mentality that made him so prolific at Spurs.
My comments are based on the belief that there is not as much cash available for transfers as the club would have you believe. The recalls of Welbeck and Macheda are either genuine attempts by the club to get them back in training to see how much they have progressed or to let them know they are now up for sale. Welbeck will prosper in the Premier League. Macheda opted to go back to Italy and play slower football so he can fuck off and be sold.
@Fred and everyone else …
Re: Ashley Young.
He may be good. He may be impressive. But I dont think we need him. Especially not for that kind of money we will have to pay for him.
We have enough wingers on either side. And enough players who play behind the striker and link-up play.
For sure, Ashley Young would be a good addition to the squad BUT not at the price he is valuated at.
I would use the same argument against Alexis Sanchez., who is a whole LOT better than Young.
In fact, I would generalize that argument and say that we dont need anymore wingers. Plenty of cover and plenty of youth prospects waiting on the fringes.
Its the middle of the pitch we need to concentrate on. Someone to retain and dictate posession, with a good workrate will do.
Also, Ashley Young is a stinking cheat
Fred
I love every United player who puts on the shirt, but the emotions I feel for Best are second to none… Only one who comes close is Robbo
Fred – I agree that it’s a virtual non runner but it still might be worth trying to turn his head. Players get to go where ever they want to go themselves these days so you just never know in this crazy crazy football world. I’m 99.99% in agreement with you. You can’t win the lotto without buying a ticket as they say.
Fred
Some buggers still taking you seriously ! hahahaha
You must be laughing your head off
Red to the bone you are my friend
Sparkz … missed your post, way earlier. What I mean about “big games” is that the PL is a tough fight these days. Of the 38 matches in a season, it’s no longer enough to worry about winning the handful of games that you have to play against the other “major contenders”, you have to worry about them all. In the context of winning the league, every match is “big”. A match against a lower-half team might not have the prestige and history of a match against the rent boys, the arse, the dippers or shitty — but it is absolutely “big” in terms of winning the title. The lower teams in the PL have become crafty and adept at what i call ‘survival football”. They’ve figured out that beating the other teams around them is difficult, so if they can scrap a few points — a draw here and there against the major teams — that may just make the difference between survival and relegation at the end of the year. And they’ve figured how to do that. I mean look at this year — the number of teams in realistic danger of relegation going into the last two weeks was fucking extraordinary, man. What was it, 7 or 8 teams all within 3 ooints of each other? Wow.
This is a totally different situation to what happens in other leagues (with the possible exception of Germany). Sir Alex himself has said, there are no easy matches anymore in the premier league. And what’s noticeable is that in order to beat those lower teams, the tactics and styles that you have to use are really very different to what you use against the bigger teams, or in Europe. So to me, it makes no sense to say, as some do, that Berbatov isn’t worth it because he’s only effective against those teams, like a flat-track bully. First of all, I don’t think that’s true. But even if it is, that makes him extremely valuable. STR pointed out that Berbatov scored 7 winning goals for us this year — 21 points. Others have responded, “yeah, but those were all against lower teams”. And you yourself said, is that worth 100 grand a week? My answer is: fucking oath it’s worth 100 grand a week, because without that, our chances of winning the PL each year are slim to none — and winning the PL is still our main thing.
Cedars … more George Best quotes:
On David Beckham: “”He can’t kick with his left foot, he can’t head a ball, he can’t tackle and he doesn’t score many goals. Apart from that he’s all right.”
On Kevin Keegan: “He’s been very, very lucky; an average player who came into the game when it was short of personalities.”
“In 1969 I gave up women and alcohol; it was the worst 20 minutes of my life.”
On Cantona: “I’d give all the champagne I’ve ever drunk to be playing alongside him in a big European match at Old Trafford.”
SPEND BIG !!! ON BIG TALENT !!!!! IT IS NOW, THE TIME TO THRIVE !!!!!
I’ve been Fred-Red-ed
Always up for a laugh me
Sign Stuart Downing instead
And Heskey just for me and Costas
@Fred
JUNE 1, 2011 AT 19:23
Fred says:
Put it this way, if Young signs for us he will be the best thing since sliced bread as far as I’m concerned. If he signs for the dippers then he’s a useless turd who can go fuck himself.
Well said about anyone I think.
Sign Bellion the next Thierry Henry
Wait didn’t we…
Nice read the last 100 posts or so.
De Gea
Sanchez
Sniejder
De Rossi
Varnae French Kid CB
2, 8-15 million type for the future
Time to spend big. Man Utd spend big every 3 to 5 years lets go real big and let them all fight it out and sell some in Jan and next summer. Big 10 years ago was 40 million now it is 100 million come on it is time.
Zibbie
In my last FM game I got De Gea for 16,000 pounds
David Gill eat your heart out that’s a bargain I tell ya!
@MG I agree mate Go big or go Home. Young is a nice player, not a world class player.
BUY SOME WORLD CLASS PLAYERS PLEASE.
MG, HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Remember when people were asking about Fabiano after he had 1-2 good games at the World Cup? Where’s he by the way?
Costas
Denilson – Remember him the next big Brazilian coming?
Zibbie
I got Sanchez for 12 million – beat that
I can’t.
@MG
Oh how could I not! Betis broke the world record transfer fee for him. If that man had Alex Ferguson in his life, he might have eclipsed Ronaldo. The fat one, lol.
Costas do you remember that other Brazilian Kleberson?
What happened to him he won a world cup
@MG
He must have fallen into a black hole called Roy Keane’s position.
Fred are you on tablets? If not you ought to be after that load of dribble. Owen is not a scouser he was born in Chester and has lived virtually all his life in North Wales. In Flintshire to be precise. As a youngster he supported Everton. So the fact that he played for Liverpool has nothing to do with it. Baerba that you think so much of played for Tottenham so he played for other clubs too. Owen had an awful lot to put up with from the scousers so why should he be considered untrustworthy. Also Owen played for Real Madrid Baca’s biggest rivals so that rather destroys your theory anyway. CedarsDevil you claim to support all United’s players yet then proceed to agree with Fred’s pearls of garbage. Do you understand the word support?
Costas
Shame
Denise Williams – not another word on Cedars
Never again – Cedars is United blood – I’ll defend that man till my dying day – read between the lines you may see something else is happening – you don’t want me to spell it out for you now would you?
@MG
Don’t bother spelling it out mate. The lights on but no one’s home if you get me.
Cedars’ devotion isn’t to be question by anyone.
Costas
I see
It’s like kebabs without the kebab meat then
@MG
Yeah, that would be the term in kebab lingo.
Costas
I hope no one ever questions you mate
And if they did – I’d be there
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Thanks MG. Likewise. And if filthcolumnblue returns, we will both be here.
Costas
Nothing less
Goodnight Costas
Goodnight Manchester United
When United lost to Barcelona at least it was a game between two
At least half the Barca squad went to Scholes for his shirt
At least some good came out of another lost final
But in the race for governing the body of Football – Sepp Blatter had only himself to vote for and win
Something wrong with that
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thank god for that
Well done Berbs, same again next year please…….Still disappointed about Barca game as if we’d played our best 11 at retaining the ball, the game would have been much closer. Berba and Scholes instead of Giggs and Hernandez. As it were the ball just kept coming back and we did well to limit their chances. Evras defending was questionable for all goals tho! Anyway next stop 20!
It annoys me ‘Barca the special team’ believe me once teams wake up and get over the we cant beat them mentality there will be a change. Ok Messi is a genius though!
UTID
@CedarsDevil – yep, laughing my head off just about sums it up!
I’ve had a great time on here today. Cedars, Costas, MG, everyone else – thanks for the laughs! Goodnight everyone!
@ Stateside Aussie 21:39
Love it.
People say ‘he deserves to stay’ or ‘he doesn’t deserve to stay’. Our current crop of players contain quite a few that stayed in the team even though they were ‘undeserving’. Fletch a few years back, Anderson recently, Carrick…
Berbatov for me, needs to stay. This team simply needs some fine tuning and we will conquer Europe. No wholesale changes needed.
Fuck me drunk … yesterday, the rags were all, “Ashley Young’s off to United, so it’s the end for Berba”. Today, they’re all, “Owen got a one-year extension, so it’s the end for Berba”. Bastards just can’t help themselves, can they?
Fred,Costas, MG & Cedars…Big Willie
What Fucking great entertainment Who Needs arsenal in england when You fellas here at ROM are a bagful of giggles. 
UNITED TILL I DIE
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Good night Laddies for tomorrow is another day of Pre-season
Berba. Sheer Class.
Damn all you guys. I fucking hate you all. Next time you have a fucking party, invite me. Why does all the fun at ROM only occur during my nap time?
I wake up and come on ROM only for the Berba thread to have increased threefold and find references to Indiana Jones, James Bond and, last but not the least, The Dude.
Fuck all you guys! Ima leaving.
Berba, if you read this, don’t be ashamed, most people know that you’re out of the team because of strategy, it’s not because you are not out of class.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!
lol the game would have been closer in him with the team…who says that he knows shit…he wouldn’t have touched the ball…there’s a reason why he doesn’t play against arsenal and barca
*who says that, he doesnt know shit
@parjo
Exactly. But you need to understand football to understand Berbatov.
Denise Williams @ 22:35
I believe I do understand the word support very much but thanks for asking… Pity you do not understand the word humor. So do me a favor and never question my support again.
MG & Costas – Cheers buddies
Balaji – Sorry you missed out on all the fun!
Morning all true REDS
Great skill, great comments, great guy, wrong club.
Really like the man, incredibly indebted to his contribution to our club this season but he’s always been a square peg in a round hole and I think Fergie is going to move him on.
Hope he does well either way, seems a good lad.
@Balaji – Hahahaha! Glad you appreciated those references!
@CROoney
Ball retention is key against Barca if only to relieve pressure, Berba and Scholes are unquestionably the 2 in our ranks who are unflappable on the ball. If we were to have had more ball it would have gave them less ball to attack with. As for being closer as a contest well never know, its my opinion.
Pretty much every Red on the train back to Manchester had pretty much the view we were overran in midfield and needed Scholes for Hernandez at half time with Rooney up top. All ifs and buts anyway!
August 3rd VDS testimonial courtesy of AJAX in Amsterdam…………sounds like a plan!
UTID