Amidst rumour after rumour being posted on the RoM Forum concerning Ronaldo’s future, a fellow Red posted a rather entertaining link from Red and White Kop, the forum for the dippers. Whilst I thought our thread on the Ronaldo situation was updated regularly, nothing can beat the thread they are running. Like one of the scousers commented, it’s like Sky Sports news over there, with every story, every rumour and every comment posted as soon as it’s made its way on to the internet.
If you needed further proof that our enemies were suffering from an inferiority complex, here it is.
“It may even affect other big players going to United. Why go to a club where the paranoid psychotic who passes for a manager will refuse to let you leave if it doesn’t suit him. Players move between the big clubs all the time and Ferguson is deluded if he thinks he can continue to behave the way he does.”
Yes, why would a big player go to a club whose manager has won 10 league titles, 2 European Cups and 4 FA Cups in the past 16 years? They’d be mad to, surely!
“Got a bit bored at work today so I decided to calculate where in the league the mancs would’ve finished if Ronaldo wasn’t there, by taking away his goals in each game, and adjusting the points. It’s not accurate as such because that would mean the mancs had 10 men for each game, and another player could’ve chipped in with goals, but its nice reading. They ended up 6th with 62 points, missing out on the CL spot of course, and Tevez was there top scorer with 14 goals.”
Without Ronaldo, our highest scorer would be Tevez with 14 goals, 9th in the league. After him is Rooney, with 12 goals, 11th in the league. Without Torres, Liverpool’s highest scorer would be Gerrard with 11 goals, 13th in the league (behind both Tevez and Rooney). After him is Crouch, with 5 goals, 54th in the league. I suppose now would be a bad time to mention that Louis Saha, who played in just 17 league games this season, (5 of them from the start, 2 of them for 90 minutes) scored as many goals as the lanky one. Ouch. Right there is the difference between us and them. United never have been and never will be dependent on just one or two players.
“The scum will slip to 3rd or 4th place next season without him. The one man team they are.”
Yeh, a one man team with the best defensive record in the league and 3 scorers in the top 11 in the Premiership this season. What? Did I miss all the effort Ronaldo put in to his defensive duties this season?
“Regardless of what happens this whole saga is making my summer!”
I suppose the scousers really are resigned to another trophyless season, if speculation over Ronaldo leaving overshadows any of their potential signings and pre-season stories.
“Funny as fuck this, don’t agree with those who are bored with round the clock is he going or not. Fergies summer is fucked, the C/L win has lost it’s shine etc etc. Hope it drags on and on, then the little fucker leaves. Replacing a 40 goal a season player at short notice won’t be easy, and Giggs and Scholes are getting on a bit……good times ahead maybe?”
Yeh dippers, next year is your year!… Just like last year, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and every other year until we travel back to 18 years ago when you were last crowned the best side in England. Who wants to break it to them that Scholes only played in 24 out of 38 (less than 2/3) of our league games this season and that Nani (who scored our 3rd against them this season) is a ready made replacement for Giggs?
“Rafa should try and buy him just for a laugh – well give you £50m for him etc just for the sake of taking the piss. Even funnier if Ronaldo thinks it would be a good move.”
But the joke is on you. Why on earth would Ronaldo consider it a good move to leave a team that has just won the league back to back as well as the European Cup, for a team that hasn’t won the league in 18 years and weren’t even the best team in Liverpool when they won the Champions League?
“Viva Ronaldo, Viva Ronaldo, He’s a cunt, A big, fat, smelly, greasy, diving, shithouse of a cunt, Viva Ronaldo.”
Catchy.
However, I don’t want to completely right them off, there were a few on there with sense. It would be unfair to sell them all short based on the opinions of the majority over there.
After the comment that Gerrard is “a loyal non-money grabbing player as opposed to Ronaldo”, one dipper with sense mentions the fact that Steven Gerrard, their beloved captain, has handed in transfer requests with the hope of joining Chelsea for the money. The other fans are quick to berate him, snapping back that at least Gerrard didn’t leave. Funny that, considering Ronaldo hasn’t left United either. One dipper says that Gerrard “wouldnt dream of leaving us in the summer after we’d won the double.” But we know Gerrard did dream of leaving less than 2 months after winning the Champions League.
Thankfully, United fans have always known that Ronaldo isn’t here for life. We enjoy watching him play, we can be grateful for his hand in our success, but we’ve never relied on him to be here forever. If the likes of Gary Neville, Ryan Giggs or Paul Scholes had handed in transfer requests at their peak, I’d have been gutted. These are United lads through and through, with most Liverpool fans still kidding themselves that their captain feels as strongly about their club as our youth team products do about our club. But put it this way, there won’t be any United fans burning Ronaldo’s shirt outside Old Trafford.
Another says, “We all know that even without Ronaldo the Mancs wouldn’t have finished 6th. Somebody else would have stepped up to the plate.”
In response to one of them saying we’re fucked if we sell him, another says, “What a load of bullshit.”
Another agrees. “This talk of “they’ll be lucky to make 4th next year” is just blinkered rubbish.”
Credit where it’s due, they’re not all so blinded by their hatred and bitterness towards us.
So, if this Ronaldo business is getting you down, remember the wise words of a chant dedicated to our South Korean. It could be worse, we could be scouse…
Man Utd News 24/7
Ronaldo is off…HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Hilarious. STILL THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BRITISH TEAM EVER!!
Hahahahah already a bitter scouser on, excellent article RoM, not only is it even on Ronaldo you even gave the scum some credit for the shit they mouth on. Funny how they never really reply to Gerrard wanting to leave, when he was interviewed at the CL final he didn’t even have the sense to lie and say he’d stay. Ronaldo has given us his best years, think it’ll never be the same with him again after this summer and it might be an idea to let him leave.
“Funny how they never really reply to Gerrard wanting to leave”
Ok then. I would have accepted it. 40million would have gone a long way. Yes I would have been pissed because we’d spent 3 years building a team around him, but it’s just the things you have to accept. He wanted to go win trophies, fair too him. Never works out though. You look at Owen and McManaman fucked there careers right up.
bitter bitter scousers
when will you learn…
you may well be the most succesfull club in britain BUT you havnt won a leauge since the back pass rule was invented and wot happened to it bin YOUR year? first time ive heard that since around about august every year since bloody early 1990s
Mcmanaman won two european cups with real madrid how did that move fuck up his career?
another dipper genius i see!
Is it just me who finds it ironic that you should publish an article claiming Liverpool are obsessed with United. How would one come to know about this obsession if the feeling wasn’t mutual? Did you accidentally stumble onto Red and White Kop and then spend hours copying and pasting from it?
take the rose tints off lad……..you’ll be fu..ed and you know it…..still you could always do a job for labour with the positive spin your churning out
Ricky – 1. like I said in the article, the link to your forum was posted up. 2. What kindof special are you that it takes hours to copy and paste a handful of posts?
Taking enjoyment from laughing at bitter and desperate scousers does not amount to obsession.
I am a scouser through and through. I have to say if I was a manc, I would be telling ronaldo too pack his bags and clear off. He has been given a fantastic contract and the support of his manager and team. Publicly tarting himself around like he has is disgusting. I would take the money no player is worth 50 million plus. Great teams like liverpool and man united have never been about one player. And yes, for all you mancs wondering I felt the same when Gerrard flirted with Chelsea.
You have a great team, but your arrogant fans do the team no justice.
Of course other fans are going to look for ways to have a go at you.
Whilst you are at the top, you are fair game for people trying to shoot you down.
Take it as a compliment.
honest, i didnt know that that many scousers had computers. amazing things the u.n. does these days. absolutely amazing.
hey scott saha played 7 times not 17
You had a good season and congrats to you . You have to admit though If Ronaldo goes it will be a massive blow to your club hence Slur Alex fighting so hard to keep him. Same with Liverpool & Gerrard
This has brightened up my Saturday, I really do love the scouse. There was life after Cantona, there was life after Beckham and hypothetically speaking if Ronaldo does leave there sure as fuck will be life after him.
G’day!
Scott, I’m the sort of ‘special’ (whatever the fuck that means) that thinks that you writing an article about how obsessed Liverpool fans are with United is somewhat ironic.
Do you not see the irony?
If your observations were at the end of a story about the Mancs that would be fine, but you dedicate your whole piece to Liverpool fans and what they think about Ronaldo leaving. Why do you give a fuck what liverpool fans think?
Like I just said (yawn), enjoying taking the piss out of deluded Liverpool fans does not amount to being obsessed with Liverpool FC.
I found it amusing to read, so I posted it here, on this United blog, for the amusement of other United fans.
Bean – http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=16124
Awwww come on, surely you can see the funny side. He’s leaving, and he wants to leave. Its funny. Dont take it badly.
I think its known as ‘karma’. United pretty much tap up every player they want to sign, Hargreaves certainly being the latest, so this is justice.
I’ll be honest with you guys, I hope he stays. Because I’d rather you kept a player of his quality who doesnt want to stay, cos he’ll NEVER be the same player again for ya. Rather than having £70 million odd to spend on the likes of Benzema and Berbatov.
ok. Well just to clear up, I think it’s rather amusing that your best player is gonna do one. Very amusing, in fact, that the self-styled greatest club in the world can’t keep hold of its best players.
Ricky – you, like all the bitter fans on that forum, are more than premature.
You’re basing your opinion that Ronaldo is leaving on quotes that originated from a Brazilian website. Portuguese officials have denied those comments came from the player and his mam has said it is “certain” he is staying.
Wait until a deal is done before you get so carried away.
both sets of supporters have a mutual feeling of obsessed hatred for each other.
C’mon, you were all probably laughing your socks off over the gerrard/chelsea saga a few seasons back…
Let us have our little moment here…
Scouse bastards, let’s clear something up here….Ronaldo hasn’t officially left United. As much as I would be disappointed to see him leave, life at United will still go on. Great players have left the club and we have still been successful. As much as I despise Real Madrid right now, at least they have a rich history, whereas Gerrard handed in a transfer to join a club who have won just as many titles as Huddersfield Town – I would consider that far more demeaning than seeing Ronaldo joining Real Madrid. I suppose it’s your year to win the title again is it? enjoy your battle with Everton for fourth place again next season.
jhunt, the un does do good things. Those computers were supposed to go to Africa but the scousers boosted the shipment before it left.
First of all – LFC fans cannot be bitter when they have won more than United.
Secondly, Liverpool dominated European football with a bunch of homegrown lads and a few scotts.
United on the other hand have never ‘dominated’ europe – just domestically. This makes worse reading for Utd when you consider the fact that they are the richest club in the world with Madrid.
Beckham shirts alone earnt you over £100 million. Its like a circus.
When Liverpool won everything – their reward was a handshake – United on the other hand receive multi-million pound prize funds.
2 Euro cups in 21 years – thats crap when you are that rich.
LFC won 4 in 8 years under the humble Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan.
The fact that a utd fan has cherry picked items of a Liverpool forum speaks volumes.
LFC – the greatest football club of all time
MUFC – the greatest franchise of all time
The truth hurts.
In your barron spell of 26 yrs without title you were nothing – at least LFC have accumulated 10 major cups since we last won the league – pretty impressive for a club who are supposedly still building.
Jobo. Firstly – of course you can be bitter. You’d have to be about 23 to have even vague memories of the last time Liverpool won the league.
Secondly – everyone who dominated Europe before the 90s did it with pretty much homegrown talent. Your 2005 win featured just 2 Englishmen. Fergie’s early team, which COULD have dominated Europe, was hindered by the foreigners rule. If that rule applied in 2005, Liverpool would have again won fuck all.
It depends what slant you want to put on it. 2 European Cups in 9 years, if you will. Regardless, your talk of spending is redundant when considering there is just an average spending difference of just £3 mill a season over the past 10 years. Back to the drawing board.
Between winning the league in 67 and 93, United won: 4 FA Cups, 1, UEFA Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup and 1 League Cup. Hardly “nothing” is it.
It is impossible to compare those 26 years to your 18 because football after 1990 was very different to before 1990.
Regardless, argue about history all you like. Let’s work in present day – we are the Champions of England and Europe. You are potless, again.
home grown lads and scots?
half your team was irish welsh or zimbawean for fucks sake
since the back pass was banned notice how liverpools results have gone downhill
anyhow back to topic in hand , the guy made a thread about dippers being obsessed by ronaldo and hey presto on you all come to chime in
so he has been proven right
well done scot as for the dippers fuck off and get back on yoru own site or having a minutes silence for mascherno red card etc
at fat rafa and the dippers we laugh
Great teams let their best players leave if they want to, I have made the point again and again, Liverpool sold Keegan to much cheer in Manchester, they bought in Dauglish and 12 years later Manchester had just watched that player dominate Europe, national cups and the league for the whole of the 80′s with the hated rivals. The point is Keegan said I want off, best player in Europe at the time, and Liverpool pretty much said we won’t fight you – buy. Will Manchester do the same, as a Liverpool fan I think they have the mentality to –
These stupid dippers are so damn obsessed with United they don’t even realise how bad Ronaldo’s sale could be for their club. Let’s face it dippers, the only decent attacking player you have is Torres. You are crying out for some decent strikers and especially wingers. If United sell Ronaldo for megabucks, do you really want to have to compete with a cash-rich United for all the best players available in these positions. Given a choice between the newly crowned European and Premier League champions or the house burgling bin munchers, not many players are going to choose the latter. You’ll be left feeding off scraps, as usual, and forever our bitch you will remain.
you laughed at SG and still continue to do so and you cant take the joke ? comical “journalism”.
carry on buying the league and CL with your 1bn debt. I’m with platini, clubs like yours should be banned from football.
You never even put a finger on the PL trophy let alone lift it. Because of you English clubs had to endure 5 years in obscurity. I’m sure you’re all proud of that to go with all the trophies you won.
Given a choice between the newly crowned European and Premier League champions or the house burgling bin munchers
are you 10 years old with a quote like that? guess u must be
That Ronaldo is off his head, he dumped that Gemma Atkinson off of Hollyaoks, so he is capable of anything.
As a ‘pool fan I can’t understand my fellas who are saying “Hooray, hooray Ronaldo is leaving”….okay, a 40 goal man can be a deap wound in a team, also in a top team…but the fact that the “scums”(out of sheer habit:P) will get around 100millions for him can be as dangerous as the 40-goal-a-season-man. Man United probably won’t be able to find another Ronaldo but I’m sure they’ll find and seduce more players like C.Tévez who saved their ass this season many times…without some of his late equalisers chelski would won. In the last 18 years we were struggling to keep up with your insane spending…now that we are so close to build up a team that can finally crush your face again…Man United seem to get a 100million injection to the normal 50-70million budget…OMG wake up my fellow ‘pool fans and pray that Ronaldo changes his mind…The maximum we can spend this summer is around 50million with selling Alonso and stuff…Personally I don’t want to see Ronaldo in Man United but a 100million injection could make the team where Sergio Ramos, Karim Benzema, Klaas Jan Huntelaar are warming the bench
YNWA
I actually agree with some of the scouse twats. This should be the best summer..we should be basking in the glory and thinking of our young side’s future European domination..yet Ronaldo has ruined all that and turned the spotlight on himself.
He could have killed all this shit with one statement.
He wants to go and I don’t feel the same about him. I’ve never really loved him like I do Rooney, Scholes and others , He has taken the piss and he can get stuffed. I know others will make excuses and say I’m mad etc.. but he’s treated the club with a disgusting lack of respect and his ego and greed are pretty much intolerable.
Cash in while he’d worth the most I say. We’re still a big enough club to say that we only want players who want to be here. He’ll probably find it’s not as great as he built it up to be when he gets to Madrid. Careful what you wish for..and all that!
“carry on buying the league and CL with your 1bn debt. I’m with platini, clubs like yours should be banned from football.”
Failing to grasp the irony that his own club is mired in huge debt as well. You do know that bank loans funded your pruchase of Torres et al last summer bin licker?
Scousers – I shit ‘em.
Redaddict- pay no attention to the idiot, he’s probably the same user on Yahoo Answers, who accuses Utd of bribing all the refs. He’s got some real problems and totally obsessed with Utd…ramblings of a mad man i would say.
Ash you dopey scouse cunt your in debt as much as now fuck off and tell u about all ken bigley
As a neutral I find the way 2 sets of supporters can’t discuss a subject as mundane as football without hurling insults at each other really sad.You lot are supposed to be men yet you all act like little boys who’d probably shit themselves at the first sign of real trouble.No wonder Britain is going down the toilet when the majority of the country has people like this living here.
I think the vitriol spouting from man ure fans proves beyond doubt who are the bitter fans…
If any utd fan could honestly say they would not take the piss if gerrard or torres wanted to leave liverpool, then I could understand why they’re upset at the banter…
But, we all know you’d be enjoying it just as much as we are over ronaldo…
Jimbob, that poor attempt at an insult and a sentence just shows who is the actually dopey cunt…
I guess you’ll be changing ronaldo’s song for next season huh…
How about ‘that twat ronaldo’…
Lol, spot the typo…
My bad…
I came accross this on the News Now site. As a Liverpool fan I concentrate on my team. I am disapointed by those who bother to write about the Ronaldo saga. However to write that Gerrard “dreamed of leaving Liverpool” is a complete falicy. It is well known that useless Rick Parry stalled on the captains new contract and made him feel like the club wanted to cash in. The comments on this matter further prove that Man U fans know plenty about their club and little about football overall. I have 3 Man U fans as friends one used to support Arsenal and 2 only chose Man Utd as a club after they started winning things. Be warned the walls come crashing down eventually. I have unfortunatly seen this.
nice one Bob, you’re of a weak disposition I assume with comments like that. Ronnie situation obviously too much for a mind like yours.
Fact we’re nowhere in debt as what ManUre is.
PMSL at all this. You’re not even the biggest club in england, nevermind Europe.
And the comment about 5 years out of Europe, given our team at the time we would have probably won it another 5 times.
Im a liverpool fan, and to be honest I quite like Ronaldo, and Id be sorry to see him leave coz hes a cracking footballer. Being a liverpool fan doesn’t mean I have to hate Man Utd; they have some amazing players.
oops you were right scott..but honestly it felt like he only played for 7 games..
If we sell Ronaldo, it’s going to be utter shit for you in the transfer market once again.
We could actually come back stronger next season with the money we’d get. New striker (which we desperately needed last year, a new winger, and a new top class right back.
I’d be much more concerned, if like you, we were selling off our best assets (Alonso) and pursuing garbage like James Milner.
At least we’ll be replacing our player with quality, rather than second rate crap.
Forever our bitch you will remain.
LOL@ NOT THE BIGGEST club in england
yet more scouse drivel, lets look at the average gates, the turnovers etc
aye right you are lpool the biggest club well in their own minds
It hurts that we haven’t won the title for eighteen years, just like it hurt Man United when they hadn’t won it for twenty-six.
Football is cyclical, we will have our day again, and I imagine that Man United will go back to their compost heap once Fergie retires.
As much as I hate to say it, you Mancs had the best team in Europe last season – of that there is no doubt. But much of that was down to Ronaldo. Bask in your glory whilst its here…… I promise you it won’t last forever.
Jimbob, it doesn’t take carol vorderman to work out why you get bigger crowds…
Simple maths, bigger capacity = bigger crowds…
I will say that utd are far more commercialized than liverpool though…
Maybe we can reduce that gap when we eventually move into our new ground… (whenever that is)
Ha. This is pretty funny actually reading this from the other way round.
As a liverpool fan i notice this sort of stuff all the time.
Living in Manchester i quite enjoy all the banter really. but i also notice this sorta stuff from UTD about Liverpool. the is noright or wrong side. both are as bad as each other. i bet if you ment most the people who write this, they will be normal people, enjoying the banter with their mates. of course there will be narrow minder idiots aswell on both sides, but the internet has giving everyone a private identity and pretty much the freedom to complete free speach. you only got to read the comments by some to realise we are as bad as each other.
Either way, it will be a bad loss for you guys with no ronaldo but like one or two of you say, plenty of big names would like to play at UTD and with the money you get for Ronaldo you will surely be a better squad.
As long as you dont nick any of our targets then fair doos, assuming our board are on agreement over transfers that it.
YNWA…
so what is Cristiano leaves? We will be even richer than ever! We can even persuade Zidane to come back from retirement. HAHAHAHAH!!!
Si ,
Liverpool’s average attendance was 2000 down on capacity last season. It was only 95%, whereas clubs like United and Arsenal have attendances above 99%. You can’t even fill little Anfield, so I don’t know why you think a bigger stadium will help. No wonder the plans were scaled down.
It’s pretty obvious why you don’t sell out though. I doubt many paying fans really want to turn up to watch meaningless league games every weekend. The race for 4th place doesn’t exactly draw in the crowds.
I just thought of this: to the Liverpoo fans who say they visit this site cus its listed on theirs or for whatever reason, theres no rule that says you have to click on it, just ignore the link and move on, please stop, its a Utd blog, if you don’t have anything sensible to say, don’t visit this blog, same for the Utd fans who visit liverpool blogs. This is probably the reason why i prefer reading Redrants, much less scouse nonsense to deal with.
Red Addict,
The lower attendance last season have been due mainly through fans not attending due to protesting against our pathetic yank owners…
We have a season ticket waiting list longer than any other club so believe me, we will easily fill a 60k stadium…
And more revenue equals more transfer kitty…
Then we will be on a more even playing field to utd, arsenal and chelsea in terms of revenue…
you used to sing munich but not anymore since 96 scousers lay dead on the floor. . .in ur liverpool slums!!!
With second rate players like Degen and Dossena coming in you can’t really blame the rat munchers for getting more excited about ronaldo leaving than anything related to their 4th place small club this summer.
This story on ronaldo is totally fabricated, the only thing we do know is that he is happy here, has said he will stay and has been honest from the start that one day he would like to play in spain. All these stories so far are just that, made up stories. He wont be leaving this summer and will be around next year to see us pick up another 6 points off the pub team from liverpool.
Anyway, this is a United forum, what are all these sewer rats doing on here?! I find that most amusing of all….even funnier than Gerrard wanting to join chelski….
He’s going nowhere, all this circus does is keep the club in the news, pre-meditated bullsh*t
Liverpool done the same trick with the Gerrard to Chelsea story in 05
Sensationlist stories like this one keep the club in the headlines and does wonders for merchandising etc, personally, i find it gut wrenching, fake headlines for marketing purposes
laughing even more at the level of denial on here. bricking it would be an understatement.
Dossena voted best left back in Italy this season. Just goes to know what some know.
even if manscum get 70m, you wont get the players as clubs like chelski will blow you out.
Well shaolin, I hope to see you around when real announce his signing after the euro’s…
Then you’ll no doubt tell us that he isn’t the best player in the world at the moment and you’ll be a better team without him…
Surely if he had intentions of staying he’d have CLEARLY stated it instead of keeping everybody guessing…
Rat munching rooney and tevez will need a lot of shooting practice to make up for the absence of ronaldo’s goals, for next season …