Paul Ince has taken time aside from his usual routine of the dole queue, followed by asking God why football is so racist, to give his opinion on Manchester United.
He correctly identifies the fact that the team at the top of the table isn’t even really playing that well yet. The odd performances aside, like our 5-0 thrashing of WBA and Stoke, or the easy 3-0 victory over Chelsea, United certainly haven’t been at their best.
Incey reckons this should worry Chelsea and Liverpool.
“I think the scary thing about it is the fact that Manchester United aren’t playing that well, and that’s worrying for the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool,” said Ince. “Normally, when United go one-up, they go on to win by two, three or four. They are not doing that, instead teams are given the chance to get back into games and aren’t taking those chances. Make no mistake, Manchester United have not got into top gear, except for the 5-0 win at The Hawthorns, where West Brom had a man sent off early doors. I think there’s a lot more to come from United. I thought if there was ever going to be a day when a team was going to have a go at Old Trafford, it was on Saturday. United looked a bit tentative with the defensive record up for grabs, but Everton didn’t do it. Nobody is playing particularly well in The Premier League, but where the others are dropping points, United keep picking up those one-nils.”
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I fuckin’ hate this fucker with a passion. Fuck Big Time Charlie. Fuckin’ Scouser.
Hate the horrible twat but this time he has a point. Good comments as well about United. Still a cunt tho.
I have no problem with ince, he was part of one of our succesful sides in the fergie era and people should just let it go, I thought he was a great player for united fergie has let by gones be by gones why dont the fans. the ironic thing is people think ronaldo is great and they still love him yet his behavior at times over united this summer and leading up to the summer and the way he acted was a billion times worser then ince yet ince gets insane amount of stick very strange.
SULLY
he has made a good point about united and he has actually complimented united is well read what he said instead of making stupid comments like that.
“he has made a good point about united and he has actually complimented united”
It being in the singular. *A* good point. He just couldn’t help himself in the end:
“except for the 5-0 win at The Hawthorns, where West Brom had a man sent off early doors”
Yes, because WBA having a man sent off would’ve really mattered, Charlie. This against the side that could conceivably been 0-4 down *before* Robinson got sent off (Dimi’s goal, Tevez miss, Ronaldo’s miss, Nev’s pen).
EastStandManc
what ince was saying which I think he is spot on is when united have gone 1 goal ahead in allot of games they would get 2 3 and 4 goals at the moment they are not doing it. the united attack in 2000 would have put them away long ago, tevez in the everton game which everyone has not seemed to pick pick up because they are blinded by his workrate I thought he was very selfish in that game and made some awful decisions in that game, there were 3 or 4 times when tevez had players in better positions he did not give him the ball, the problem is not united missing chances but united making the wrong decisions.
don’t know how you can compare ronaldo to ince?? Ronaldo may have wanted to leave but stayed when united asked him too. Ince acted as though his 2-2 equaliser was the best achievement of his career as he celebrated with the dippers who thought they’d stuffed our chances of the league.
People give ronaldo stick about taking his shirt off, that cunt ince used to always keep his shirt off until he got on the pitch. I don’t think ronaldo loves himself half as much as ince. Hence the tag big time charlie.
Ince said: ““Normally, when United go one-up, they go on to win by two, three or four. They are not doing that, instead teams are given the chance to get back into games and aren’t taking those chances.”
Not quite; in the twelve-game clean-sheet streak (sounds a bit ‘orrible, eh ?) there have been exactly 19 shots on the UTD goal. So, Edwin has not exactly been over-worked by the opposition who simply aren’t getting “those chances”.
I think that this statistic is amazing – but it’s a pity that there is not a proper, complementary statistic to show where the game was being played. In the Everton game, UTD might have had just 55 % of the “possession” [whatever that means] but the Toffeemen hardly had more than two or three minutes of what I would call “territorial possession”, by which I mean controlling the ball in a dangerous part of the field. In contrast, most the match was played in circumstances in which UTD had “territorial possession” in the Everton half of the field. And this state-of-affairs has been the norm.
What makes it even more amazing to me is that not only has SAF rotated his defensive and midfield personnel but most of the matches have been played with two “passengers” because Ronaldo and Berbatov rarely defend-from-the-front. Not only have UTD been able to blunt the opposition’s possession but they have been able to keep the ball for the majority of the games – and the opposition can’t score if it only gains (and keeps) possession in its own half.
This, I think, makes more sense of the 1-nil scorelines; the opposition play for a draw from the outset. They line up in ranks close to the 18-yard line and can’t gain – and then maintain – possession into UTD’s half of the field. So, the games are usually fairly sterile affairs in which UTD batter the other guys until they make a mistake.
After that, when UTD go 1-up, the opposition tries to keep to the same tactics in the hope that they can somehow nick a goal against the run of play – West Brom was the only real exception to this scenario, and they had the balls to still try to get an equalizer after they went down to ten men. And, of course, this proved to be their un-doing as UTD went on to score four more goals, two of them on the break, in open play. And this brings up my last point, how many goals have UTD scored from “open play” ? Not many – because the opposition’s main tactic is to close play down so that UTD’s intricate passing game is largely neutralized.
I’ve seen this coming for several years but it is now the normal strategy of opposition managers. So, I expect more of the same for a while as most managers are follow-the-herd thinkers and know that their players’ only chance of gaining anything from UTD (especially at OldTrafford) is to pack the box, park the bus, and hope for a miracle from their keeper – it worked for Newcastle, so why not ?
very nice of him to say and he is correct, but he can still fuck off.
paul ince is a dipper in disguise, he scored a goal for them that could of potentially of ruined our treble season but we were to good to let it stop us thank fuck.
charlie whats the score, charlie charlie whats the score! YSB
Sam
yes it was a disgrace and that pissed me off but now it did not make any difference we won the treble, and I think ince and ronaldo is a good comparisment, both have acted like idiots yet ronaldo all summer drove allot of united fans totaly mad that he was supposed to want to go to an average side because of the weather, the reason why ince does not put his shirt on before games is because it is a superstition of his that is why he does it.
the difference is ronaldo respected united enough to stay. If he didn’t respect united he would have handed in a transfer request. The only time he said he wanted to play for madrid was followed by IF united accept a bid.
Ince doesn’t respect united. I had no problems with him leaving not even returning to play for liverpool but when he celebrated his goal as though he had won the league for liverpool showed everyone how he feels about us.
i mean i understand what your saying but madrid aren’t exactly liverpool which is why we hate gabby so much
Sam
I think ince does respect united, allot of the united fans like myself hate real madrid just has much has liverpool with a vengence and lets get another thing straight about the overated average madrid, there is no question that real madrid are the manchester city and the chelsea with the trophys and history, anyone else agree that I would love to be a real madrid scout, I can sit on my ass in sunny spain get payed and not bother look for players because the presidents are too lazy to say too his scouts go find some prospets and actually find players, amazing perez wants to get messi and ronaldo who play for sides who know what they are doing and are top of their leagues, so they think they can get players from clubs who have miles better and well drilled and coached sides.
Denton: very well (if not a bit long) put together response. I have to agree with you on a number of points in particular regarding possession. As you say the key here is “territorial possession”. Spot on.
Well said Davey, albeit a bit harsh on the Geordies who actually came to play, I thought.
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