United have failed to beat Villa twice already this season but the market takes its lead from the history books by rating the Reds 1.89 (10/11) favourites to win the Carling Cup final on Sunday.
Those odds only apply to a Reds victory inside 90 minutes but the price is still well worth taking. This is a massive game but, at a congested period, Sir Alex will want his side to pick up their first silverware of the season in normal time. For a United win which allows for extra-time or penalties you can get 1.49 (1/2) in Betfair’s Carling Cup winner market. Villa are available at 2.98 (2/1) and 4.5 (7/2) in the match odds market.
The Villains have a decent pedigree in this competition. Martin O’Neill won the League Cup with Leicester in 2000 and before that Villa won the competition in 1996. Most memorable for fans of the claret and blue is their 3-1 victory over United in the 1994 final – a defeat which cost United what would have been an historic treble.
But nobody has a better trophy winning pedigree than the Reds. Sir Alex Ferguson has taken United to six League Cup finals so he knows exactly what it will take to win on Sunday. United have shaken off last week’s defeat at Everton with a clinical 3-0 win over West Ham and they look hungry for success.
The Reds attack will aim to put Villa on the back foot from the start and, after being taken off against West Ham, Wayne Rooney will be raring to go. He should be backed to be the first goalscorer but to make things interesting you might also fancy a small stakes bet on a less likely scorer, perhaps Antonio Valencia – whose influence increases with each match – or Nemanja Vidic at bigger odds.
The two early goals Villa conceded in the semi-final showed that they can be vulnerable early on the big occasion. United won’t want this game to drift away from them like two recent visits to Wembley – last year’s final against Spurs and the FA Cup semi-final against Everton – and Sir Alex will demand that his strikers take their chances early on. Villa were involved in a testing FA Cup tie on Wednesday and could tire late on so back United to lead at the break and to press home their advantage in the second half by snapping up odds of 4.2 (16/5) in the Man Utd Win Both Halves market.
Their failure to beat a 10 man United at Villa Park earlier this month suggests that O’Neill’s side will struggle to break down United. With Ashley Young, Gabriel Agbonlahor and in-form James Milner, Villa are an exciting team, but United’s defenders have their measure and should be backed to keep a clean sheet.
A third League Cup trophy in five years will set up United nicely for the business end of the season which starts directly after this game.
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This is gonna be a tough nut to crack, It clearly depends on the policy of playing youth and the extent to which SAF follow’s through with it. Villa will set up likely as follow’s.
Friedel
Cuellar Collin’s Dunne Warnock
Downing Petrov Milner Young
Heskey Abonglahor
Its a Strong side as we all know and O’neils favoured side, they clearly may have probably more desire to win the Cup than us.SAF in my opinion and he has already stated he is going to change the side significantly from team that comfortably brushed West Ham aside.IT’S all part of the learning curve for our youngster’s and to prepare for the bigger picture.
The big decisions for me are our midfield selection,Once I saw that I would place my bet lol.
Initial Hunch, Us 2~~~~them 1
WEMBELIEVE 28/02/2010 On On On
Friedal will have a blinder as usual against Utd but I think we’ll win.
A Utd win will be very sweet on the same day a certain ticker reaches 34.
C’mon Reds.
United ll win 2-0
If the lads turn up with the right attitude and don’t do anything silly at the back we should have no problem. We nearly beat them with 10 men recently so I would think that we should win with 11.
Any winning score for us will do. The more we score the better.
About time we beat Villa this season.
@ costas fuck you, pmsl. butt a good point. jist in fae Boozer. So looking forward to MATCH. I am Scottish travel many mile’s for this club, i shouldnae type am as drunk as a fiddler’s bitch, Listen mate, If thon twat in there goal ? wots it’s name, yankie cunt, is on fire we are goosed.( JOKIN) Tell you buddie Costas, Saf midfield will determine this game. enjoy the Game m8 an remember shout like fucking crazy. Am pissing ooot about 10 pints already. lmao, just so excited.
WEMBELIEVE …. ITS OUR LADS, Just get behind the team On On
@redscot
Lol, refering to Friedel? Yeah, he will probably play. And he will play the game of his life against us as usual! You are right about the midfield. It could be the key. If Gibson starts, I hope he will have a cracking game. Take care buddy. I don’t envy the hangover you will have tomorrow.
COME ON YOU RED DEVILS
bring on villa !!
no rooney, owen and berbatov
resting for england so? Watch, we’ll be 1-0 down and hes gonna have to bring him on making the whole thing pointless… nothing knew
@who
Thanks. Do you have the rest of the line up?
Rooney is not starting and BBC bastards have already awarded the Cup to Villa.
Come on lads, lets tell them what United is about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he is on the bench. good to rest him but should we need him he is right there for us.
Wembley is a heavy pitch and the last thing we need is Wazza(who has started the last 16 games) to play twice there in 3 days.
@Xyth
I hope we prove them wrong mate. Didn’t we win the Carling Cup last year without Rooney in the team?
Kuszcza – Rafa, Evans, Vidic, Evra – Valencia, Carrick, Fletch, Park – Berba, Owen
Again I got 10 out of 11. My only mistake was predicting Gibson would start instead of Fletch. It’s a pretty solid team given our absences. I don’t know why people would write us off.
@costas
kus rafa vidic evans evra fletch carrick valencia park owne berbatov,
@who
Thanks for going through the trouble.
By the way there’s a free MUTV stream over at http://www.simplyreds.com/free-mutv-stream.html
Bench:
Foster, Neville, Brown, Gibson, Scholes, Rooney, Diouf
Good to see Evans starting ahead of Brown. Vidic and Evans have a good understanding and can play well together. Evans-Brown was too shaky for me.
The BBC cunts ” No Rooney,no Cup”. OH you’ll have eggs on ur faces.
We are now about to see if berbatiove win us the cup. I wish he does well today and the run-ins.
Since when did BBC jump on the “one man team” bandwagon? Cunts. Anyway, I am off to watch the first half. Come on United!
Any -decent- live streams out there
COME ON UNITED!!!
No Rooney or Scholes…….
SAF…. we better not lose this game as you will get more earache over team selection
OOHHH Portuguese Princess ……the language…. agree with you though
TRY THIS STREAM http://www.soccertvlive.net/
@ TonyBee,
I don’t normally swear but I made an exception today.
Oh no, a penalty !
.. FUCKING HELL BASTARDING VIDIC WHAT THE FUCK….
oh fuck off.
bad start. still early though.
Come On United!!!! show ur stuff now!
Our lacklustre defence punished again. Why wasn’t Vidic sent off? Wasn’t he the last man?
A long way to go though.
I am just glad he wasn’t sent off. Won’t even question the referee.
Well played Micheal Owen!!
nice run owen. where did he find those legs….haaha
come on united!!
fucking get in
OWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNN!!!
YESSSSSSSS!!!
Oweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
get innnnnnnnnnn
Why wasnt vidic sent off?.straight red that was
Mikey Owen ………. you fugging beauty
Owen!!!!
nice one berba!!!
woohoo!!!
Are you watching Cappello ??
AIG, yes it was but he did not give it. lets count ourselves lucky. But if we win ( I believe we will) the missing red card will be the talk.
Owen you beauty! Love that little guy.
Great save!
Ooooh fuck…
great save Kuz!
aaig was thinking the same meself ….they get a yellow from outside the box and Vida gets fuck all ….. not that I’m complaining….
Great run Paddy Evra!!
carrick should not be aloud to take free kicks
@tonybee and portugeseprincess
me too not complaining but that was a red.if we win a lot will be made of it
@aig
isn’t what we were discussing yesterday? fucking inconsitent ref we seeing week in week out. no complain from me today though : – )
Abonglahor is worrying me. He’s imposing himself on rafael
Ohhhh Park!
Great stuff Berba!!
Really want Vidic to score noW the ABU’s on BBC have started their chirping about how hard done by Villa are…..fucking hell only 20 mins gone and they are dissing us already
AAIG; yeh I know but who gives a frig just want us to beat these bastards now with Vidic scoring a fucking headed hatrick…
@aig, in my opinion, today’s was the correct decision.
same like yesterday rentboys vs shitty, the forwards still got alot to do before they could score. so if a penalty is given, that’s enough a punishment. Red should be given if the foul was obviously too deliberate (professional foul) or it was a clear goal (keeper already out of his line).
but i believe i m the minority intepretating the rules this way.
cheers!
a big old bruiser like Heskey getting felled by Rafiel….yeh right
i wish they would get rid of lawro already every utd match he ruins.
Yeah, Berba, you take that shot on.
@DEVILisRED
Possibly Vidic forced Agbonlahor wide which prompted the ref not to send him off. What surprised me what that the ref didnt give even a yellow card. The refereeing standards seriously are rubbish and need to be reviewed.
The number of decisions that have gone against us this season we deserve a few good ones
worst commentator on setanta…… when is the silly cunt gonna lay off kuszczak?
i would snipe the fuck from the z row for his “ifs” and “buts”
pig is doin a fine job so far, and that dickwad cant get over that “king “shit brew” foster” is not playing…
Valencia is a bit hesitant today
Don’t see anyone commentator go on and on about why Cuellar was not booked..
“That looked to be a trip by Park” ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND?!?!
Idiot.
berba is playing very well, playing alot of teamates in.
Rooney ON!! unlucky Owen…
COME ON UNITED!!!
damn. muz be a injury to owen.
rooney unleashed ! XD
FFS!! What the hell was going on back there!! flipping get rid!!
oh fuck… unlucky berba.
unlucky
How the F’ing hell did we not score!!
How did that not go in……
unlucky park. he’s playing well so far too. some brillant runs….
This referee is shit. missing loads of stuff especially Berba getting 1 in the bollocks
HT
Bad start, still looked shaky at the back throughout IMO…
But still, we were on top for the most part, desperately dissapointed we’re not one goal up.
Fergie should get the boys up for the second half, and hopefull we can keep on dominating.
COME ON UNITED!!!
I switched over to sky sports cause I cant stand BBC, martin lawrence, why is he a commentator? such a wanker! same with alan hansen!
first 15 minutes was awful, park very unlucky not to score just then
How the hell did Phil Fuckface Dowd get to referee a final? He should only referee League Tow matches.
Anyway, I have to say that I am distraught for Michael Owen. I guess there is a reason why he rarely starts a game. Poor lad. But, the goal was a great move both by him and Berbatov.
Can anyone tell what happened to owen,man he is unlucky .whenever he stars playing well he gets injured.hope not a serious injury.
fuksake park, missed 2 clear chances.. poor Owen, played pretty well until the injury, hamstring i think..
I haven’t seen so much ABU sentiment from the MOTD ex.Loserpool pundits…blaming fergie for the refs actions? what the fuck?
@Ash
Either a hamstring or a thigh strain. It was hard to tell. I think it was his thigh.
I have to say that Vida was lucky not to get booked(or even sent off). BUT, why didn’t Cuellar get booked for his tackle on Evra?
we dont know what was the problem with owen could be a light injury.. it was not like they carried him off the field…
@Rooney22United
Park has done well!, Was unlucky with his last! Cant hammer the guy for that!
@Costas
Hi Mate hope your well!!
I think dowd is real shite! I do feel lucky that vidic is still on the pitch, it he was sent off i dont think we could argue too much. Some games these are reds, some games they are yellows and in this one he gets none!
Park is playing great today..berba seems possessed..making challenges and hurrying defenders, good to see.
if anyone will be subbed it will be Carrick with Scholes coming on…. with maybe Diouf coming on for Berba later on
All in all we are doing fine feel sorry for owen. the defence is shaky given we haven’t have consistent team selection due to injury. i think we will win it with in 90min.
anyone got any eng sops without the support comms cunt thats on setanta?
its quite a enjoyable game so far ruined by this fucks mouth….some1 pls give me sky sop or tape this fags gob….
With regards to Owen I think this just kills his world cup chances and verifys everyones doubt that he cant stay fit long enough! I hope he gets back although i dont like seeing him playing deep, I know he isnt as quick as he previously was and fergie has argued that him and rooney play the same position and cant play in the same team..
However, With rooney and berbatov its berbatov that plays deep! Today with Owen and Berbatov it was owen that played deep. What was that about i dont know but it worked! Fergie Magic never doubt the big guy!
With regards to the match everyone looks edgy however i doo feel we are defending too deep however this might be a tactic to counter agabagohshites pace!
Come on second half!! We can do it!
BTW…why is the clock on this blog an hour ahead? you are using wordpress so its not hard to change the time. DST is in effect i think.
its showing February 28th, 2010 @16:58 when in reality it is 15.58
@trevor
Hey mate. Hope you are well too.
Whenever Park cuts inside, he makes a real difference. Fergie is experimenting for the MIlan game.
@TonyBee
Yeah i agree, This game is crying out for scholes. The little ginger genius!!
Carrick and fletch dont use the ball as well and dont control the game enough, im not carricks number one fan but he has been playing quite well recently! Although part of it might because i have spent the last decade watching scholes who has to go down as one of the best players in his position of all time!!
Trevor is right. At the end of the day, long term fitness is what might cost Owen his world cup spot. He and Berba were clicking quite well considering they haven’t played together often. I wanted to see us win it without Rooney’s help. Oh well…
Second half….COME ON YOU FUCKING REDS
@Costas
Yeah i think he might be, also conserving engergy for the millan game.
I do like park, He is needed for games like this. He works hard, Defends. Keeps things simple. Every top team needs a park in my eyes.
SOme fans dont see his quality or what he brings but i love the guy, although i dont expect him to play every week!
The Beeb’s commentary today is a fucking outrage. The worst I have heard in years. All Lawrenson, Hansen etc have done is bang on about how Vidic should have walked. Should he fuck. Yellow card and a pen was right decision. Yeah lets get United down to ten men thats the only way we can beat them. Scum cunt’s. That and banging on about Rooney. You would think they picked the team. It is up to Fergie who he picks and in picking Owen he was vindicated till the injury. Now Rooney is on they are happy. So am I actually. Villa are there for the taking. They even started mocking Berbatov and his fucking hair. Losers the lot of them aside from Hansen who did win things. Southgate the world cup bottler, horrible goofy bastard and Shearer who didn’t have the balls to join United. Fuck them all. Come on lads shove it to the cunt’s.
COME ON UNITED!!!!
What a shame for Owen. Best I’ve seen him play for United. Does anyone else think Ashley Young is a cheating little fucker? Also if Vidic could have been sent off then so could Collins.Gabonlawhore didn’t half make a lot of it obviously going for the pen and trying to get Vidic sent off. United to win!!!!
WOW TREVEOR AGREEING WITH ME ….THERE’S A FIRST..LOL
Berbatov is fantastic right now. Have you seen his tackles? HE IS AWSOME
theres a lot of empty seats, is the service in wembley shit or is it not sold out?
Ooohh
Great strike Carrick! Thats more like it!
looks like they are trying to counter with long balls to Agbonglawhore
@tonybee
hes got no1 elses dick suck on
berba is really playing very well today. most of our great chances went thru him.
Uh-oh, Gary against the pace of Villa. They will certainly target him. He’s just not up to the pace of the game anymore. Prove me wrong Gary!
This pitch is a fckin disgrace!!!
If that continue, we’ll send out our reservers against Milan, omg…
get in rooooooonnnnneyyyyy
Rooney just cant stop scoring with his head!
Rooooooooooooneeeeeeeey..
ROOOOOOONEEYYYYY!!!!
What a goal!!!!
wat a cross valencia!
wat a flick berba!
wat a fucking header again rooney!!!!!!!!!
Messa; is Agbonglawhore a shirtlifter then ??
time for the ginger prince to make a appearance …. to take charge
Oh fuck fuck fuck!!
I thought Rooney scored!!
How the fuck did Wazza miss that header
Great save Kusak
take me home, valencia rd to the place where rooney scores …….
Nice one Tomaz!!
great save by Kus
actually it wasn’t a great save, it came off the crossbar
berba you pillock lol
berbatov WTF.
gibbo on for park
ahhh fucking hell Berba… Youve had a great game though…
Well played Park!!
Well done park..played great today.
Man of the match performance from Park. was all over the place
Berbatov needs to get his shooting boots on..
©
I don’t know, I want a goal by Berbatov. Hopefully it will come.
Good run from Gibbo!!
I think Berbatov has been incredible today. He has worked hard, been in pain throughout, and had a huge part to play in both of our goals. We should be celebrating his game not criticizing it!
If Nani puts in 1/2 the shift that Park puts in, we would gladly welcome him into the team even if his form is rather erractic
Gibbo like a sprinter ……
i want Vidic to score
Jesus… this is nervy stuff, we are sitting too deep…
@Mezza
That’s great!
You can almost feel the hate from the scouse commentator..fucking crap lawro
Oh fucking hell Valencia!! Get it on target!!
Good work by Valencia..not his best game but he delivered where it mattered today
dunne is playing freakin center forward now lol
Did the commentator on Setanta just say what I think he said:”I just hope something will fall Aston Villa’s way” ?
FT
YES!!!!
THAT’S THE END OF THAT ….MORE SILVERWARE …..
CITY ARE YOU WATCHING
Yes, Berba has done well today.
Wohooooooooo…its over, well done Rooney and Owen…. Great win after their exploits against us this season. Valencia MOM but i liked park’s performance.
Well done lads!!!
Park man of the match for me.
Gutted for Mickey.
we win!!! so much deserved, so much kudos to Park Berbatov Owen Rooney every single red devil who played!
To be fair we’ve robbed that one. It’s always nice to win things but it’s a little embarrassing when the ref has to bail us out five minutes in.
WELL LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT,S THAT ….
THE BOYS DONE GOOD…
FUCK ALL THE ABU’s WHO WANT US TO FAIL…..
THE BBC PUNDITS CAN ALL KISS MY FUCKING ARSE, AS CAN THE PRICK FROM SENTANTA…..
YIPPEE
SCOUSE MAGGOTS ARE YOU FEELING SICK
SHITTY CITY 34 YEARS AND COUNTING
RENTBOYS INPLODING
Xusen
Me too. Park MOM.
Paddy Evra to lift the trophy…
We deserve it lads!!
Well Done!
Now lets win all the rest!!
COME ON UNITED!!
@tonybee
glad to see someone else noticed the fuckheads comms….. 1st half was a torture…
EEEEEVVVVVRRRRRAAAAA!!!!
Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney: “It’s a great feeling to play in a final at Wembley and score the winning goal. All the players who played throughout the competition should be proud. I had a little bit of sore knee… but I’m delighted with the winning goal.”
Great to see Patrice EVRA Lift the cup, he has been ever present all season.
valencia gets MOM but for me it was Park.
WTF
SAF said Rooney had a bout of flu?. Rooney says he had a sore knee. Not related the both of them
Hopefully thats the first of a few trophies to come this season
CONGRATS TO ALL MY FELLOW UNITED FANS
Proud of our fans..great atmosphere.
Good job for the team. First trophy for Owen with us! He deserves it! Btw, Berba really need to go under the knife now. Don’t think his leg will hold out any longer.
oh, it’s so sweet! first trophy for this season when every-ABU has been write us off. Can’t wait for more to come!
Glory Glory Man. United! Great team performance. I’m starting to get worried for Rooney, what if he can never score without his head again!?!? Terrifying, 5 headed goals in a row already. Berba and Park deserved a goal each, especially Berba, had that determination everyone was doubting.
Fergie joinin in with the celebrations!!
Love it!!
Another trophy in the bag, dont know where we are put them all lol. Big shout for valencia brillant performance and wazza of course.
Well done mufc
lets keep the trophies rolling in! Great goals by owen and rooney! Are u watching bitters dippers and rent boys lol United 4 life!
And as for the Vidic situation, I don’t know the rules, but they are so complicated I bet even Phil Dowd can’t qualify why he made the decision he did. The refereeing is far to random these days. We need to make the rule book simpler and hire more professional referees.
Aston Villa defender Richard Dunne on whether Vidic should have been sent off: “They got a man sent off at Villa Park and it didn’t make a difference. It’s better to play against 11 men and it made it a better game. It’s their day today.”
I tip my hat to you sir!
Well done United.
Shearer, Southgate, YSB Hansen, Lineker, Mowbray, YSB Lawrenson eat your heart out.
You are better off watching a stream with Chinese commentary on than listening the nonsense these cunts say.
Bring on AC Milan and rent boys.
LUHG
Disappointed that there weren’t many people wearing GG scarves
We’ve got our ashtray back we’ve got our ashtray back
Wait for the abu media to bang on about the vidic red card, i say fcuk em and well played the ref he didn’t want to spoil the game.
@AIG
You got the scoreline correct mate. So much for Vidic shutting Villa out.
About Vidic. Yes, he probably should have been sent off. But there is a time and a place for everything. Just like you don’t get a yellow without a warning, you don’t get a red card for that within 5 minutes of play.
The Captain Evra era has began!
17.20pm and the bbc & hansen is saying vidic should of have got a red card!!
No wonder fergie will have nowt too do with em.
where is the credit………………utd won because on the day we was the best team.
@Colbert: I have to agree with you. Well said Richard Dunne. If only more professionals could follow his example instead of bitter rants after games.
onille said vidic should have been off but he knows we nearly won at his yard with 10 so don’t complain we deserved to win.
Pity for the ABUs that Richard Dunne hasn’t given them any ammunition.
For the record, I wouldn’t have wanted them to go down to 10 men in a similar situation either.
Scott its time for you change the medal on the top right hand…
Carling Cup Winners 2010 should be on it now, and hopefully will be added by more in the months to come…
Give a dam what the press say, we have regained the trophy…felt really bad for Owen…any news on how long he will be away…
I am not quite positive about the Premier League though, I am apprehensive for Arsenal as they have a lot of easy games, unlike us and Chelsea.
We have to get players back, specially the defence for the rest of the season.
Games against city, l’pool and chelsea…and city will play better after what happened (with) at the bridge…
United have just equalled Emile Heskey on League Cup titles.
Just think about the decisions that went against us this season, liverpoo and chelsea games, they even themselves out over a season.
I heard that Pato got injured today and is doubtful for the OT clash.
I cant say im disapointed with that costas.
If we had another striker half as good as Rooney teams would really fear us. I have been Berba’s biggest fan but am starting to think we need a more penetrative forward to play with Rooney. The team looked good at times today. Fergie need to offer Vidic a new deal. The guy is just too important to the team to let go. Bump up his salary to match Rio’s who can’t seem to play two games in a row. Park and Valencia were superb. Fletch was lost all game. Defense was immense
Great performance and we are Carling Cup champions! Our first trophy of the season…Hopefully, the first of many, although I would gladly accept the title alone on addition!
Berbatov was simply outstanding. He is without doubt class. After his performance today, no one should be criticizing him or claiming we need to buy a striker. I thought his partnership with Owen was just phenomenal; I have always said this, the Berba-Owen pairing will work wonders if Fergie plays them together more often.
Valencia was deservedly MOTM; worked his socks off on the right and delivered in a dozen of crosses, especially in the first half. Park put in his best performance of the season. It’s a shame both of them did not score with their chances.
Rooney’s head is magical. I think he has scored 7 headers in his last 8 (?). He really is becoming our only game-winning player but that is what is exepected of players of his calibre. I think he will be rested against Wolves and Berba and Diouf may get a start.
I don’t think Shearer, Southgate, Hansen or Lineker commented on our performance at all after the game; the brilliance of Milner’s peno and how Vidic should have been sent off were more important to discuss than our win. To be fair, he should have been given a red but there was no need for the lot of them to keep banging on about it. They even predicted Villa will win simply because Rooney did not start. Well, we did manage to score without him didn’t we. Had Villa won, they would have been heaping praise on Martin O’Neil and co. Typical typical.
Hopefully we can now kick on in the league. We won’t be getting any more favours from Chelsea any more; so we just cannot afford to fuck up. Come on Utd!
@willierednut
Me neither. It more than makes up for Carrick and Rio’s absences.
I was gonna praise berba but i dont want to start another debate, thought he was class at times today.
I agree. Berbatov was class today. I thought he clicked more with Owen than Rooney to be honest, but overall he was very lively.
Watching MUTV..Hayley and Lou Macari standing in the horrible weather to take calls from the viewers, great show.
Sir Alex thinks Owen might be out for 4-6 weeks and Said he was happy with the supporters and didn’t matter what colour they were wearing, they were all supporting united.
@Xusen
Macari deserves to get soaking wet.
Anyway, 4-6 weeks? That’s a big blow. Hamstring injuries usually leave you out for 2 weeks.
@Costas
yeah mate. got the scoreline right as against Arsenal too, wrong team that time
Agree on Vidic. Think it happened very early in the game and hence he wasnt sent off. You get some and you dont get some. Thought it was a yellow card at least but who cares.
@AIG
And no one mentioned Cuellar’s bad challenge on Evra. That was very clumsy and it’s the second time he has done it against us. He did it in the game at VIlla Park too. I don’t know what needs to be done about challenges like that. Does someone have to break a leg?
Peter Walton and Phil Dowd are probably the worst referees in Europe at the moment.
@Costas
Just rewinded it..he actually said he reckons 5-6 weeks, he said it was our fault as he didnt get much playing time before today and the pitch was horrible. He will have a scan to be certain, he didnt answer about our right back Da Silva though.
Fucking abu’s are a disgrace today. The Beeb including 5live and talksport just focusing on the Vidic incident. All the fucking whinging Villa fans as well. Villa got a pen went one up after 4 minutes and had 86 minutes to add to that. Unfortunately though for them they weren’t good enough and as usual United prevailed. Great win to be fair and a real springboard for the season. Just watching the dressing room footage and they are all singing “who the fuck are Man Utd”. Quality. Thats why they are winners . Fantastic team spirit and led by a man whose appetite for trophies just never wanes. You only had to watch him singing the United Calypso at the end. A fucking living legend. I actually thought Nev did ok when he came on. Was a bit worried that he would get burned for pace but he stuck like glue to the winger. Park was superb and my man of the match. Fletch and Carrick never stopped. Berbatov pulled the strings and got stuck in. Valencia again with an assist and very nearly a second. Rooney is just Rooney. Well done lads!!!! GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED.
WE’LL NEVER DIE!
Kudos to Richard Dunne.
@Costas
Didnt watch the whole game, only the first 20 mins so cant comment on that Cuellar tackle.I think a lot of referees need to improve. Some of the decisions are shocking and as the days go by the decisions get even more debatable and controversial.
IMO that Overbo referee who was in charge of Chelsea barca last year and Munich Fiorentina this year is much worse than some of the Premier league referees
Typical of United fans being happy about winning the coca cola milkcup. This is the only trophy we’ve won this season and its because of the Glazers. If they hadn’t of put us in 7billion pounds worth of debt we would of won the league by now and have over 1 billion in the bank. We could have bought Villa and Gerrard.
Rant rant rant, my yellow and green scarf is itchy.
Mezza Said,
February 28th, 2010 @17:13
@tonybee
hes got no1 elses dick suck on
What was your comment with regards too?
Why all this complain from villa about vidic, they know they cant beat us with 10 as well
well it was lucky when vidic could have been sent off but hopefully united can start getting that luck back. Now its time to win the league title, with rooney rested and having a good 50 minutes under his belt united can kick on, like I said on the other posts uniteds remaining fictures bar a phew dodgy fixtures overall united dont have a hard runnin that the media like to think. Like I say with chelsea losing it changes everything now about the runin.
wolves away
Fulham home
liverpool home
bolton away
chelsea home
blackburn away
man city away
spurs home
sunderland away
stoke home
does anyone else agree with everton and villa twice out of the way united have seen out the storm and there is light ahead of the tunnel
@Fze123
They did comment on us after the match but they were mostly taking about how stupid they sounded with their predictions before the match they also realized that they were so interested in villa that they never even though Rooney would come off the bench to score the winner…
And is it just me or does Sir Alex have the same goal celebration everytime lol…
@Xusen
Thanks for the update. He does have a point. Michael needs more match practice before he played on the Wembley turf. Rafa felt the brunt of it too. 5-6 weeks means that he will miss the Liverpool game.
I hope Diouf can step up.
@AIG
Oh yeah mate. Seriously, there are a lot of worse referees outside England. The problem I have with these 2, is their inconstistency when it comes to yellow and red cards. Phil Dowd is the referee who gave Rooney a second yellow for throwing the ball back at Fulham, yet he let Cuellar get away with it today. He gave Rafael 2warnings and never gave him a yellow, but Evra got a yellow for his first bad tackle.
As far as O’Neil moaning about the penalty, well…tough luck. Welcome to the club. Wasn’t it on the same pitch where we were robbed by Mike Reily from reaching the FA cup final? Wasn’t it on the same pitch where Mike Dean didn’t give a clear penalty to Man United in last year’s Carling Cup final?
Shit happens. And moaning about not playing 11 v 10 for 84 minutes is pretty pathetic if you ask me. Maybe we can sign an agreement with Villa that will guarabtee that we will get a red card in every game against them.
Since your on the subject of refs, Who was the ref in the Ireland France match. I saw him ref a different game after that and he was redonkulis some really bad calls and he is supposed to be going to the world cup?
Newsflash:
The FA are going to launch an investigation in how Vidic a 75kg hard man managed to pull down another 70kg man by his shirt. A spokeman for the FA announced that in colaboration with the British Army they are looking at new ways in combating insurgents in Afghanistan with the extremely effective methods used by Manchester Uniteds central defender Namaja Vidic during the Coca Cola Carling Milk Cup Final Cup Final. “Bullets have no effect and the intelligence is sometimes left wanting but the effective method of pulling a mans shirt could win the war against the Taliban” the right honourable General Malcom Fudgepacker said to waiting press at the weekly press conference in Kaboul. An American special services secretary said “Its unlikely that the American forces will deploy these inhumane tactics that the British are suggesting as it could lead to the pulling of stiching from the outer garments”. “We’re trying to win peoples hearts not savage them” said Barrack Obama soon afterwards at a meeting of the joint chiefs of staff.
@LunG420
That referee was Martin Hansson, the same referee who officiated in the Arsenal Porto game last week.
@LunG420
I think it was Martin Hansson. Since Sweden won’t go to the World Cup, I think he will probably go. If Howard Webb is going to the World Cup, everyone can go.
Rendering ourselves into greater things this season with the “Cooking Lager Cup”. Well done lads, all of you were warriors today, and that boy Rooney? Superlatives are out there, but I couldn’t think of one that would do him justice! LOVE UNITED HATE GLAZER
@RedViking
All vikings are poofs
wow
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254438/AC-Milan-striker-Pato-faces-fitness-race-crunch-Champions-League-return-Manchester-United.html?ITO=1490
would be good if he isnt fit…
Some more trash talking
http://goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2010/02/28/1811735/manchester-united-comment-falling-star-nemanja-vidic-saved-by-ji-
@LunG420
Yeah great means Seedorf might play from the start. There isn’t an easy match against Milan and Im seriously brown trousering it. I know we can beat anyone on the day BUT by winning at the San Siro it has forced Milan with the game plan of all out winning, thats never good. Last time we played them, we beat them first at OT and then they were left with the same game plan, I actually dont think the playing away from home issue was as big as the fact we gave them the gameplan of having to win. If you get my driftt. Pato or no Pato its going to be harder than at the San Siro.
aig – hello mate. Pathetic article. “steep decline”? It is his second fucking game since before Xmas what do they expect? I ain’t gonna get annoyed by the bias today but more enjoy it and revel in it. Every fucker predicted a Villa win, I don’t know why as United are shit aren’t they! Now they are eating their words again.
GoatinaUNitedshirt – No mate. United will be better at home. The crowd will spur the lads on. We go one up they need three mate. Todays result will have bouyed the lads and its just the confidence boost they need. They will be back to their swaggering best now.
Vidic started to get better as the game wore on. He isn’t finished yet. Besides, this article lost all sense of credibility with the phrase ” Torres destroyed him”. It’s really hard for some people to hide their bias…
And I still don’t understand what Villa are complaining about. Have they actually proved that they can beat United 11 v 10? They were lucky to get a draw at Villa Park.
aright mate @ King Eric
Oh I have no doubt we can do it and last time we showed strength of character for the entire 90 mins rather than Milans earlier burst and then Fuck all. But Milan are no push overs and they are usually better with their backs against the wall, surprissing seen as they are all a bunch of shirt lifters.
Goat-
Come and visit this one, 6’4 and 18 stone, the only poofy moment would be when I impregnate you, slut.
On a day when unity should be easy to achieve you still have to act the cunt. I hope you meet somebody like me along the way, and get opened up like a can of beans as a result.
Nevermind, I’m off to count my money and think myself lucky to support the best team the world has ever seen.
for fuck sake people, what is all this about Vidic. He pulled a fucking shirt. If that brings a man down what fucking world do we live in. (scratches his head remembering Shawcross crying his eyes out in professional empathy). Im glad the first world war can never happen again, because I could imagine the sargent major blowing his whistle to go over the top and the modern man (conscript soldier) saying hang on luvy my nails aren’t dry, or Im not going over the top I want to know if Schmiechel wins Can they dance. Hang on Sarg my laces is undown, oooooh dont go out there Glendiline they’re firing real bullet, you’ll get a ladder in your tights.
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
Yeah i know there is no easy game against Milan but if i can remember Pato was causing alot of trouble and it wouldnt hurt us for him to not play. Ronaldihno can be enough when he wants to be.
@King Eric
I know what you mean they cant be possitive, apart from concieding the pen i though vidic was good for the rest of the match always gettin his head to their crosses first. Hopefully he will stay fit and have his wall like presence against Milan
How many assists does Valencia have now? Must be around 12 right? And it looks like the Va-Roo combination is on fire at the moment.
@Red Viking
18 stone ooh you muscle man, when ever and where ever you nordic shirt lifter.
Goat-ok lets do it. Bring tools.
@King Eric
Hi mate.
Exactly. Just his 2nd game for about 45 days or so.He will need some time to get back to his best.Vidic is still the best in the world in my opinion. No defender can get back to his best immediately especially when you are out for that long.ok Vidic was lucky today but he was pretty good apart from that incident. When these decisions went against United at Stamford bridge no one spoke about them. It was all about how resilient Chelsea are and such decisions are a part of the game. The same applies now. it has been clear this season that we have been hard done by some decisions. If no one makes an issue of that, then why do they make an issue if a decision goes for us?
I for once predicted a United and win and got the scoreline right too. being positive works too
Goat- do Peter Schmeichel and Ole also get included into your “all vikings are poofs” generalisation.
I am truly sorry if I invaded “your blog”. You wanna just be happy that I’m not raping your missus.
@ Red Viking.
Shit I got turned on, if your going to be the father of my baby could you send me a pic. I can guess that you’ve got an accomodating mouth that smells of your dads cock and that your the product of a viking conception phenomenon. That being your dad pissing up and down your mother till she gets pregnant, and you turned out so well. You know its not my fault all Vikings are poofs, I mean don’t shoot the fucking mesenger.
what is going all united by the media must have been used in step decline of players and team of united more times than arsenal chelsea liverpool combined. Did anyone forget vidic has played 2 games in 2 or 3 months what else did we expect.
@ Red Viking
18 stone and you need tools, the only toolis you mate. And for your information my wife wouldnt fuck a viking hence the reason she imported me to Scandinavia to the job for you fantastic blond bombshell lovers.
Can’t find any David Beckham assists stats, but I think Valencia is making him proud this season.
I have to say that I was impressed with James Milner today. Hmm….
Valencia Man of the match song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0MwkM0NFWE
That’s brilliant, first trophy in the cabinet, hopefully 2 more to come.
Great performance by Berba, Ji and Valencia. These three between them, should’ve at least scored three goals.
But thankfully Wayne got the winner. And it was so good to see the boys and Fergie enjoying the victory.
Villa did well too, they just didn’t have that extra little bit to take it to extra time.
As for Vidic, it should’ve been a yellow card for shirt pull… but I guess we wouldn’t have been able to complain if it had been red I suppose.
that was a pretty good game today, rooney is turning into dion dublin lol
@Costas
Should be 12 assists for Valencia. 7 goals also for him. Somewhere around 10 goals and 15 assists is a really good first season at united for him. Also he is just 24 so he has a lot of time to improve and get better. Nani and Valencia can really terrorize defenses and with Rooney in this form we can see plenty of Va-Roo or Na-Roo combined goals
Goat- now I see you for what you are. You spend an unprecedented amount of time on internet forums, probably keeping yourself busy between this one, role playing elf based game forums and kiddy porn sites. This wife you have invented may just be one of your many deluded perceptions that women would even look at you as somebody who could produce healthy children.
And FYO, I didn’t suggest that your imaginary wife would have any choice in the matter.
How about this…I am more United than you could ever even aspire to be. Is this your true bugbear?
no wouldnt that be Ramsey with his gammy leg Arsene Wenger you pedo.
Well. What can i say? When we play like this, even if we lose we could be proud of it. There are determination and composure everywhere the place. Defense was alright, midfield was great forward added spice. Park was again brilliant and i think he and Valencia are my MOTM. Rooney did superbly well.
Owen again did such a great job. This is the 2nd time i feel he did so well that could earn him more places in the starting lineup and yet the injury comes. How unlucky has he been!!! Berbatov did well with his one two and close control touch. If he can add shooting and making some decision right instead of being selfish to shoot, he will do alright.
Valencia is proving to be such a great player eh? If he can keep crossing in such a good ball in such a difficult and with no space, then he can a derous threat at all times.
Overall a good performances for the team and lets hope there is more trophy to come!
lol goat, your a great guy
check this article from a clown from the media and the reasons why he is butter united did not take the carling cup seriously
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/david-mcdonnell/David-McDonnell-Manchester-United-are-showing-disdain-for-the-Carling-Cup-final-and-I-hope-Aston-Villa-humiliate-them-at-Wembley-article335109.html
@Red Viking.
My wife wouldnt have the choice in the matter, you make me fucking laugh. You Vikings (a handfull of sea going thugs about a 1000 years ago) would now what to do with a woman. Dont make me laugh. Is that why you have to import people to make your population figures grow. Your so hard and so virile and non of the Scandic countries have 15 million people. Your all sad fuckers pretending to be hard when non of you have any bolox and you need the entertainment from other countrys to give you excitement becaue your lady friends (who own the trousers in your home) tell you what and what not you can do. Vikings what a fucking joke.
@AIG
I hope so. Nani’s suspension is over now and Fergie has the pleasant headache of trying to accomodate 4 wingers who in their own way are priceless for us. For example, how can you leave Park out after the form he has been in recently? He is not a flashy player, but he is valuable in big games like today.
Actually the winning combinations is Ber-Va-Roo.
Berba has set up all 3 of Valencia’s crosses in the last 2 games.
@arsebe wenger
Hi mate. That’s the spirit. I actually never managed to watch Dublin while he was at United, but I remember David O’Leary using him as a centre back in his final years at Villa. Somehow I can imagine Rooney in the same spot when he is like 37, lol.
Goatina united shirt
wow what an amazing comment 2 classless comments in such a short sentence
@Red Viking.
Imaginary wife, fucking LOL, you are going to rape my imaginary wife. Whos fantasy is being fulfilled, you could imagine being imaginarilly caught by the police and imaginarilly put in prison and imaginarilly being taken up the arse by the imaginary in mates. A reoccuring dream is it boy with the horned helmet.
Rooney could miss the England game:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1254442/Wayne-Rooney-doubtful-England-Manchester-United-star-miss-Egypt-clash-knee-injury.html?ITO=1490
I hope so.
@the bloke or lass with the long tag.
I write so all classes can benefit from my wisdom, Im glad you take interest.
costas, dublin was a cultered headerer of the ball,he was one of them guys who can pick their spot , rooney has done that, not just any header as hard as possible on target, thats hard work especially without being 6ft2
@Costas
I thought that was Fergusons game plan when I first heard the rumours before the match that Rooney wasn’t playing. Cheeky cunt (allbeit a fekin good manager) asking Fergie to rest Rooney only for him (or the FA) to arange energy sapping and useless frienlies in the middle of the season. If Owen hadn’t of got injured I think we would have read in the morning that Rooney tweeked a muscle during warm up and is out of the England match anyways.
There was a flag at the game today that said (something like..)..”MUFC, Not arrogant…..” I didn;t catch the rest of it.
Does anyone know how that sentence ends?
Rooney eh, bloody hell !
@arsene wenger
I guess so. It’s easy when you are Dion Dublin or Duncan Ferguson to learn the art so to speak. But one of Rooney’s biggest achievements is his improved positioning this season. Especially with high crosses. And truth be told, as great as Cristiano Ronaldo was, he wasn’t as good a crosser as Valencia and Nani are.
arsene wenger – I told you arsenal have a chance of the title
lol rooney you did, i expected us to crumble yesterday but maybe my boys are growing, we will see, still got Hull away lol
@Costas
What an excellent dilemma to have. park ususally times his excellent form towards the end of the season and is doing well.Nani will hopefully be fired up for the run in. berbatov is getting better as the games go on. The Owen injury does put a bit of downer tonight but it will give diouf a chance to prove himself. hopefully he can take it
Goat- look mate, I didn’t ask for you to respond to my original message (which was simply my way of expressing my delight and appreciation for the team I have supported and loved for the last 23 years, ever since I moved to the UK at the age of 5). You felt it necessary to insult me, and many others, xenophobically.
My rape connotations were merely born to cause a rise from you, which I have succeeded in. For the record, rape is bad okay?
I had hoped we didn’t have odious cunts such as yourself within our ranks, I had hoped your kind would only be openly accepted by teams such as the rent boys, dippers or bitters, but I guess I fall asleep tonight, in my 5 bedroomed country pile disapointed.
But nevermind, for tomorrow I get to gloat to my scouse mate, who by the way, verbalises himself in a far more enigmatic manner than yourself. Go figure.
Happy wanking!
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
Yeah probably. I hope he misses the damn friendly and gets his rest. We have a busy schedule ahead.
hopefully Rooney is ok and can miss the damn England game…Capello should use someone else in that spot anyway, we frigging know Rooney can play! Try out Defoe, Heskey whatever, just rest Rooney.
There was a moment when the players were marching up the stairs at Wembley and a united supporter with the green and gold scarf was shaking their hands, I kept waiting for him to take the scarf off and put it on one of the players, but he did not….
great weekend for united wiht chelsea losing yesterday and carling cup win today…on to ice hockey and Canada vs USA:)
@Costas
Spot on, its not so much Rooneys fantastic headering ability but Valencia could put the ball at speed on the tip of a Vikings cock (<- tee hee a very small target) without looking.
Valencias crossing is supersceeding the memories of Beckhams deliveries.
Red mist
it had “just better” at the end
arsene wenger – I hate to be disrespectful towards your team but its arsenals easier runin is the reason why they may win the league. Like I say uniteds massive problems have been the reason why arsenal and chelsea are in a shout of the title. I hate to be arogant but this the reason why, because arsenal and chelsea are has poor as last season I have not seen any improvemnet in them.
@AIG
It is an opening for Diouf and I hope he can grab the opportunity. But for the next 3-5 games, I think we could probaby see a lot of 4-5-1. Rooney and Berba are our two fit recognised strikers and one of them will have to be protected in each game. But 4-5-1 will be a good opportunity to use 3 wingers. For example, Park, Giggs or even Valencia playing in the centre.
i think arsenal have a slight improved attitude on last season RNTK but i think almunia has got even worse, i think vermalen inspires a bit more grit and toure was a disaster of a defender, its the credit crunch, i dont think much improvemnt will come this summer either
@Red Viking.
Are you John Terry, ” for the record rape is bad” you brought it up and now you clear yourself of saying it by saying that you wanted to get a rise from me. Well you try and talk your way into sounding clever but I know that if your a Viking then your a fucking poof. Im glad that youve grown up and believe rape is bad, and you feel hard done by my so called xenophobic gestures but I must reiterate for the record. Vikings are poofs, end of. I could lie to you and say that they are swell and benefit mankind but thats just bullshit. I’m not racist dont get me wrong, blacks, white, yellow or purple makes no difference to me, but Vikings are poofs. You should embrace you chosen sexuality and take it like a modern man, which you certainly are my friend. Well I’ve got to go now as Im watching Hockey.
GHTT, thanks a lot.
Appreciate it,
@Costas
yes. With Ando out we may have to try Giggsy or Valecia in midfield at some stage.Valencia plays there for Ecuador and Giggsy did well there last season. Nani, park and valencia will all want to play and SAF will find it hard to keep all of them happy. One things for sure though, we have a lot of versatile and talented players in that midfield
Costas – I think the crossing of uniteds play in general has improved alot. That is the reason why rooney is scoring alot with his head, the problem in the past phw years wa ourwdeplayers never really gave alot of service to he striker it was like fergie andco dcided to complely not use the crossing but have individuals that can score goals themselves, it seems now fergie is going back to the traditional way of playing wingers crossing for strikers.
arsene wenger – yea a lttle bit but if united can win the league I think united will go from strength to strength. maybe united will get decisions go their way it has been overdue.
what happened to anderson?
RNTK i think everyone will be thinking a league win will take them from strength to strength, if we won the league it would be a massive boost to finally finish a job properly with these little poo-butts , last years league win gave you confidence coming into this season and it definantly demoralised liverpools season flopping it after the premature celebrations
anderson is out for the season
currently the only team that is getting weaker from natural causes is chelsea, but their players get a bit wiser and ballack gets more intimidating on the refs RNTK, weaker for financial purposes is what we have been and maybe you as well, who knows what the summer holds
arsene wenger – yea true but even though united have been poor at times this season I still feel if I was a nuetrel united still deserve to win the league title because of the mountain of problems they have had they still look to play some great football. Arsenal when they have been beaten home and away by united and chelsea I dont feel that is a side that sets the standards of the team to beat. united still to this day set the standards in the premiership and today shows that winning mentality they have.
i aint seen anderson for ages, i cant remember anyway, you will miss him especially if you go all the way to the CL final, the pile up of games
well last season you set the standards but beat who RNTK?
but RTNK you play the same fixtures as everyone else, the same way i dont agree with division 1 play offs, the best team wracks up the most points
Aaah, are you American by any chance?
Should I expect no response because of your pre emptive excuse for not being available to come up with a valid, educated answer?
To suggest that Vikings were (not “are” as your present tense suggests) homosexual is a little bit infantile don’t you think? After all, history tells us that Vikings were incredibly blood thirsty, violent, women lusting masculine types. I would like 1 name of a homosexual Viking from you, then I may start taking you seriously.
Why the hate towards another Red, comrade? Was there something in my original message which riled you? I can’t believe that you would honestly hold such an opinion over a group of historical warriors. I would love also to hear your learned views on the Moores, or maybe even the Nipmuc tribe.
Until then, UNITED RED AND SWEDISH ALL THE WAY TO VALHALLA!
liverpool took shit loads of points, like 13 from the top 4 last season, and where did they end up? i think you got 5, we got 9 i think, so that doesnt add up
arsene wenger – yes but united last season did take 4 pts off chelsea, united were unlucky at arsenal and the liverpool games it took united totaly by suprise, add the fact united looked tired when united lost 4 1 at OT. You also look at how many games united played last season and they could still could take the brutel fixture list.
I just feel arsenal look so fragile that I dont feel they are worthy of being called premiership champions and they are not better than united has for chelsea, arsenal are a little better. No team has had has many problems has united, which for me is the reason why united still deserve to be called premiership champions and today showed why they are winners still.
I also do not like wengers mentality that it has to be premiership or champions league, a carling cup or fa cup win does brilliant moral to teams, look what the carling cup win done to united in 2006 it gave them the spring board to greater success.
lol RNTK unlucky and taken by suprise dont cut it, thats how teams win cups, the hardest thing in football is consistency,and the most consistent team wins the league, i dont wanna sound funny but your reading your own funeral speech to cover your back when you still probably will win the league, thats how it sounds, i could say yeah we had bad days against united and chelsea , it could have been wigan and wolves battering us on those days but that would be cheap excuses, if we win the league it is what it is its a war not a battle
i agree about the cup competitions, i think wenger does damage limitation because if we take them seriously and get a good hiding off chelsea it will damage moral and our league form will dip badly like after you lot thumped us in the f.a cup, its our squad mentality, we need to win something because when we lose the press and every pundit on telly brings up the cant win with kids thing and barca start trying to buy everyone to save them lol
if someone told you at the start of the seaon you would lose all big games but win the league RNTK would you turn it down? thats the question
I was impressed that we didn’t have to rely on the old guard to see us through this one. Neville’s introduction had little bearing on the game, Rafael had looked solid before the injury.
I couldn’t fault anybody today. Park, Rooney, Berba, Carrick, Valencia, Evra.. you really would be hard pressed to criticise anybody. The lads did a brilliant job in containing a side that has troubled us in the two league meetings.
It was also pleasing to see the captain go up and lift the trophy instead of being romantic by having a senior player doing the honours. Evra really is the type of leader we need.
I couldna ge a tuppeny toss what Arse think’ s.
As i tolt you lad’s on on on. Did you hear us Sing?
This another nite too be chuffed as fuck. I dont care what u think. I made the effort. On On ON
Goat- How is the hockey going? Who are you rooting for? Yanks (boo) or Canucks?
Why are you not out, doing stuff, or being kept busy at 1230-1530pm? Did you even get up early to watch the game today?
Goat- Fucking plastic! you’re almost as laughable by your football knowledge, I’ve forgotten more than you know about football, mutt!
*as
arsene wenger – you are propaly right has a fan I would, but I was playing devils advocate if it was a nutrels point of view do arsenal deserve to wi the league or chelsea the answer would propably be no. I still do not know who will win the league, yes united won the carling cup but I will give a better judgement if united have beaten chelsea and liverpool because shitty will be later than those 2 fixtures. I think uniteds biggest enemy is themselves and we will see after liverpool and chelsea results because if all goes to plan in those 2 fixtures united may open a gap pending if arsenal drop some pts.
obvious u would take any league title victory has I would
RNTK who gives a shit about neutrals, if you dont support a team then dont judge the winning team, i can guarantee you if were not the neutrals favourite team were definantly their second choice, unless they enjoy watching a bunch of cloggers week in week out, at least we either play fantastic or completely self destruct, who could be more entertaining for a neutral? without us there would have been a bunch of big game draws, at least we didnt camp behind the ball and try not to lose 3-0 lol
neutral people must have ice cold hearts, many are glory hunters who switched from man utd to newcastle then back to man utd in one season, supported liverpool last season, bought a blue chelsea shirt, then started following man city, and now could be either a united arsenal or chelsea fan by the end of this season
Whats all this arguing about Vikings and stuff? Come on lads we all support United and today we have WON the first trophy on offer. Its a day for celebrating not arguing!!
Just heard Matt someone from the guardian or times on Talksport. Unbelievable. He was banging on about Arsenal and the way he honestly thinks teams go out to injure Arsenal. He said if they were English they wouldn’t have this problem. Well your manager chose to rid the team of all English talent. Fucking laughable. He reverted to a tackle by Scholes on Reyes in 2004. 2004! Thats 6 years ago. Change the fucking record. The disciplinary record under Wenger is awful and they were quite happy to give it when Keown and Viera and the likes were there. Pathetic.
Smile wotch my predictions, lmao
arsene wenger – This is not aimed at you pal.
Costas and aig – I am sure it was Valencia’s 12th assist on Wednesday therefore his 13th today. Could very nearly have been 14 if Rooney’s header hadn’t have hit the post. Astonishing record in his first season. Will get better and better. For all the talk of Wayne, the team have to provide the ball for him to score all these goals and should get much more credit from the media.
RNTK it wouldnt suprise me if man utd won all their games from now till the end of the season, but your team is a winning team, even the young players need not have doubt because if they arent packing away medals just yet the man next to them has many, arsenals biggest enemy is the teams own doubt, weve put ourselfs in loads of good positions before but have not really been ourselfs because of doubt, if we wont the league every player would have played his part, if we get to a cup final and lose i think it would be disaster beyond repair, your guys face no pressure, today players were left out but didnt mind because they have been there done it, day off
it’ s called no how, not drivvle. lol. when u get i gear you will get it! fandabbydozzzie Result
Goat- Why the fuck would you put a United shirt on a goat? Hugely disrespectful, are you one of these trolls that I hear the poorly paid, spotty runts in the tech dept. which I employ, talking about during their fag breaks?
That is it for me tonight because I’m now putting my beautiful kids to bed and then putting one up my stunning wife. If you do truly want to stand up to your request for a straightener, and you do live in the UK, feel free to email me at the address my wife does not know about to arrange the meet, olaf8ball@gmail.com
Somehow I fear, I shall be just recieving annoying emails from you and your pseudonyms.
lol king eric, thats a debate, i dont think teams set out to injure arsenal, although the media and the tv people should clarify this get in their faces phrase, and teams who threaten to kick us off the park should be asked exactly what they mean before the games kick off. i think refs should just clamp down on constant fouling, its unfair if one team wants to play and one team doesnt want them to play, afterall the ball is there to be won and often players are not tryin to win it when they are cutting off the runners from the triangle, the shawcross incident is being highlighted but i dont think that is really what id put down as gettin in their faces
Oh come on lads!!
lmao ‘@ red viking, maybe jist takin a puff.
It’s a great nite enjoy it lad’s
my main problem with stoke is their manager, he stands on the sidelines screaming directly at the ref all game long, whats the 4th official for?
King Eric – I think it is his 12 assiste. valencia has def improved on his crossing the past phew months, when I said valencia is one dimensional I ment he is a very old fashioned winger from the days of the 80s and early 90s. He is not there to score goals himself he is there to provide service to the strikers thats why united have gone back to the old days of wingers crossing for strikers, not last year or year before where wingers scoreed themselves. But valencia and rooney is almost like beckham and van nistlerroy all over again.
arsene wenger – well if they get through liverpool and chelsea it may be a 2002/2003 type runin where united blasted their way towards the title
@ KING Eric, come on lads’s a bit gay dont u think…. pmsl
King Eric – are we suprised by the media, remember the mirrir article he wishes villa humiliate united because the united players did not give interviews pethetic
lol RNTK if they do it then no one can say they dont deserve to win the league, i wont wish them luck against liverpool lol
and for everyone else who had to put up with disharmony between two fans (on an excellent night to be a true Red, and when I say true, I mean both in the sense that United are the true red team, and that there inevitably are going to be hangers on during the good times) may i say, fortunately that disharmony does not exist in the football brain factory that is Old Trafford and Carrington. If Sir Alex says he doesn’t mind what colours we wear when we turn up because he knows we’re all there for the players we love and the history we hold dear, then you know you are part of a truly fantastic band of fortunates which make up ANYTHING but ABU’s.
TAKE ME HOME UNITED ROAD TO THE PLACE WHERE I BELONG…………….LOVE UNITED HATE GLAZER, HATE TERRY, HATE CHELSEA
This is me no piss take, a fuckin great day, all our team were Magic. Just Enjoy yer nite lad’s and Lassie’s. We are United Right.
My burd in a Goal keepers kit. fuck me slip it in.Just smile. cya soon.
League On On
i think they should protect better footballing teams but wether its arsenal or manchester they kick it wont change nothing, what will change it is when england get dumped out the world cup by any decent team in the summer, they will realise that those national teams are countrys that encourage its youth to pass the ball and use talent rather than thump the ball and everything else withing reach at the same time
If you do beat up goatinaunitedshirt, put it up in youtube I am sure we’d love to see
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Chuffed with the win, Berba and Park needed big games to shut people up and they delivered.
Villa fan here. *waves*
Just wanted to say i thought it was a great game today and in the end i think United deserved to win it. I am not even going to go into the Vidic incident, i think everyone knows it should have been a sending off but we can’t just blame the loss for not playing against 10 men. There was some good football being played today and despite losing, i think we done as much as we possibly could and played our hearts out. In the end United proved to be too much for us, which is definetely nothing to be embarrassed about. We’ll just have to win the FA Cup instead
That’s all i got to say really, but congrats on the victory and good luck in the league, i hope you win the prem, i hate Chelsea so make sure you do!
Fantastic result today, deserved win and kudos to Richard Dunne for his post match comments.
Man of the match performances from Park and Valencia . Berbatov played well again.
Off topic
the posts from Red Viking and Goat in a United shirt were funny as fuck, I Was waiting for “My dads bigger than your dad”.
Glory Glory Man United
As the Reds go marching ON ON ON
Where is everyone, lol?
Costas – That’s just what I was thinking. Have a load of them gone to the game?
I noticed you mentioned Milner mate. Yeah I am a fan of him. He used to go to the school I work at, a right nice lad. Fergie likes him a well. I can see him as a United player. He is tough, strong, hard working and a great player. He is also very versatile he would fit right in at United. I still stand by what I said about Young and Agbonlahor. Don’t really rate them although at times they caused problems today. Very hit and miss and I think that Young is a cheating cunt, always diving. I thought Nev seemed to quieten Young down when he came on.
It was funny today. I am sure in the second half United fans were shouting “hand ball” every time a Villa player even kicked it for a spell of 5 minutes taking the piss out of them calling for every decision handball!
@King Eric
I think it’s obvious that Scott probably went to the game. And looking at the posts above, this topic would have been half full if it wasn’t for RTNK, arsene wenger, RedViking and Goat.
I was really surprised by Milner’s development. This season alone, he has gotten better every time we have played them. And it’s weird because when he first broke through, I thought he was a Downing in the making. He has bulked up a bit and is starting to impose himself even against top class opposition. For a long while, I thought A.Young was the player to get from Villa. Now I am changing my mind.
What the fuck’s wrong with Friedel? I swear, 20 years down the line, he will still be playing and having his best games againts us!
when i look at milner and downing liverpool must be pig sick that they threatened to buy both and ended up with babel and riera, nice one rafa
Not to mention Jermaine Pennant!
lol costas yeah, i just got a text from my united mate, said that win for all united fans, espcecially arran ramsey lol
Costas – The only thing with Milner is we may have a decent central midfielder in Gibson. All depends on Hargo. If he ain’t gonna make a full recovery then maybe Fergie will look at Milner but at the minute till Scholes calls it a day we have enough in that position. I know mate about Fridel. Always pulls it off against United but fortunately he DID concede two. A great win today Costas and bodes well. Good to see the like of Valencia getting a medal after only 5 months at United. Will make him hungry. Turning into a real player for us mate. It was good to hear Nev at the end say “Nobody seems to want to win the league so it is time for United to step up to the plate”.
Right off to watch highlights now.
arsene wenger – ha ha . spot on about Riera and Babel.
mind you both milner and downing could have ended up like babel under liverpools total(anti)football
Costas – yea I have sent my fair share of posts mostly to do with the title race, it was a great day today but now its time to chase the hoky grail the premiership title, we are now at a cross roads now we are propably at point of no return united have to win the league title especially when we can make history not only winning our 19th league title and taking over liverpools ancient title record, but be the first side in english football history to win 4 league titles in a row.
@RTNK
It’s understandable. I just expected more people here today. About the title race: the quote from Gary Nev that King Eric posted is reflective of the situation! I have said it before that it will all come down to our core players and if they are fit. One example is Vidic. It’s just 10 games. Surely the Vidic of old can resurface for them.
@arsene wenger
Lol, nice one. I forgot that Ramsey was a United fan. Glad to hear we gave him a reason to smile today.
I am not sure about Downing, but I do believe that Milner wouldn’t have developed as much under Rafa’s guidance. Has there been a player whom he has improved vastly? I think the likes of Alonso and Torres were complete articles before they went to Pool.
@King Eric
Yep, Valencia off the mark. And he is turning into a vital part of our team. But honestly, today I was more impressed with Park. Some tough decisions ahead with Fergie. Nani and Giggs should be back next week.
I will leave too now. Night everyone!
Ofcourse we won.
Yip.
park always has a good game in the big games, he is always selected in the big games as well,always plays well against us and has the goal scoring knack against us, if he would of just looked up after running the length of the pitch and laid the ball to berbatov who suprisingly kept up with him, but i dont blame him for going for it
Only caught the second half, but what a half.
not to mention on more than Citeh have had in 35 years.
Yet to see Owen’s goal or injury, but going by what I’ve read Berba was magnificent for that goal!
On Owen’s injury, I know a few on here will cite that as a reason why he should be moved on, but IMO the hamstring pull is completely the cause of lack of match-fitness and nothing else. A few more starts and he should be fine. I am pretty confident he will be available for Wolves. With Rooney’s knee bothering him (acc to reports) I can see Owen-Berba up front next weekend. Fletch and Scholesy in midfield, maybe even Carrick, and Valencia on the right will be a handful for Wolves.
On the second half, we were on and off, possession was vastly 50-50 as far as I can remember, it was furstrating stuff for large parts, but once we got the lead it was more enjoyable!
I thought Carrick was very good today with his passing. Rooney was off colour, but he did his job, slotted the ball home, and almost got a second, so job well done as far as he is concerned.
How impressive was Berba today? Magnificent again. He didn’t play against Villa at OT, and today showed he can make a difference. Along with Nani, Berba is one of the few players at OT who can change the course of the game with some magic. His one touch game today was especially incredible (que Rooney’s goal).
Didn’t see the penalty incident, but thought Vidic was supreme in the second half. As was Rafael. Sad to see him getting injured. Hope that isn’t too bad, we’ll need him against the likes of Milan.
Kuszack is really impressing me. His last few outings have been really good. He’s definitely in front of Foster in the pecking order, in my books at least. And considering he got the nod ahead of Foster for a cup final, it would seem so in Fergie’s books too.
VDS signing on for next season I think is purely a transitional thing. He definitely won’t play a lot next season, as he has done this season, but hopefully he’l be on the bench and not in the medical ward. Next season surely has to be his last, and personally Kuszack is nailed it and should be gradually drafted into the more important games. But this is football, and more crucially, this is Fergie, so let’s see what happens.
The rest were pretty much themselves today. Pat wasn’t that great, was luck with the foul on Young near our box which wasn’t given, but otherwise was fine, especially in attack. Fletch was his usual busy self. Thought Evans did ok too, as did Gibson, though he still has a long long way to go before he can be a regular at OT.
Would have liked to see Diouf and DeLaet and even Fabio (I’m guessing he is injured). Anyway, another trophy in our bag. One more than Arsenal have had in five years anyway, like i told my mate the other day!
Costas – if united beat chelsea and liverpool and by the time we face shitty the rest should take care of itself we may have a gap, but for me uniteds season in the premiership comes down to those 2 games. But like I say if united beat all 3 of liverpool chelsea and shitty I think united will win the premiership, because like I have said for the past phew days chelseas defeat has changed the whole picture of the title race.
valencia has shown in a showcase event he is up to the task he has proved me wrong, he is defiantly better than ashley young even though I am a big young fan. But valencia and rooney patnership almost seems the identical patnership beckam and van nistlerooy had, van nistlerooy would have loved the service valencia is now showing he must be the deadliest crosser when he is on fire.
Very pleased with the win. Park and Rooney did very well for us today again. Villa, but for the penalty didn’t create a good chance the whole game. Just pleased to have the trophy really.
And for all the talk about the penalty/red card, Agbonlahor- had he not been fouled may have missed. Add to the mix that with 10 men we drew with Villa and beat Spurs away from home this season- I think their complaints are a complete red herring. Was it their game plan to play against 10 men?
Rooney is the New King:
Yes Valencia did put in some good crosses today and did impress in a major final although for the first 50-60 minutes I was specifically wondering where he was. His crossing may have turned a corner of late which was so important to him as earlier in the season it was attrocious. It is easy to say when his crosses are fresh in the mind that he has the position nailed down but he’s got to do this for the rest of the season. Mind you a lot of players have to do ‘it’ for the rest of the season.
Just reading the comments, I make it that Valencia has 9 assists. Where do we get 13 from? Let’s be honest, the last two weeks have made his season.
If Owen, Berba and Rooney are looking a little injured, what do we do.. have Diouf up front with Macheda?
Berbatov passes to Valencia who crosses to Rooney’s head is fast becoming a theme isn’t it? Not that we are complaining!
Put in the goals please!!
@marq…
if it aint broke why fix it lol gotta love the berb! as for tony, the lad had some big boots to fill and my god has he filled em! love valencia. cant really comment anymore on wazza. the man is a monster! get the fuck iiiinnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brett1985 – no valencia has been good all season the difference is he has gone a step further, but for a winger who has 9 assists and 9 goals is not a bad return. I rate valencia is better this season than ronaldo was last season, and I guarentee rooney berbatov and owen would all agree with me if the 4 of us sat down in the pub and I asked the 3 of them that especially rooney.
Valencia is doing a great job for us.I would say he has been a hit a great transfer done by sir alex.hell he has been far better than kaka this season and cost 40 millions less.
Next season transfer headlines
fake madrids want valencia and rooney for 200 millions.Worst club award should go to them.
Anyways who cares about them theres only one king club in the world and that is KING MANCHESTER UNITED.
valencia’s crossing has improved so much ever since nani’s amazing run of games.. he must have realized that he must step it up to keep up with nani.. good competition for the right wing..
i felt carrick was awful, apart from his brilliant shot on goal, he was constantly hesitant, slow slow slow decision making even when there’s no pressure.
vidic’s presence was immense! so glad to have him back in defence. expected a yellow too but, thankfully none. i guess it’s fair that the ref was equally bad to both teams lol.
feel pity for evra getting knocked all over the place, rough tackles aplenty, and that young.. pathetic! trying to push players and diving.. somebody please give him saddest player of match award!
Valencia has 13 assists and 7 goals in all competitions. And he is becoming more onvolved as the season wears on.
Correction. Valencia has 9 assists in the Premier League, 2 in the Ch.League, 1 in the Carling Cup final and 1 at the Wastelands which I don’t know if you can attribute to him since Rooney’s shot was saved by Given before Giggs’ tap in. So, it’s either 12 or 13 in all.
rooney hurt his knee in the final yesterday he mightnt be able to play for england on wednesday
OH NO I hope he’s ok for the p.o.i.n.t.l.e.s.s. game
I wouldn’t be surprised if fergie signs jack rodwell as a replacement for hergreaves.jack is young and is perfect replacement for hergi.I think fergie has to buy a replacement for hergi u cant take risk for another season.hope we buy a replacement in jack rodwell
rooney the new king Said
Why mention Ronaldo after repeatedly berating me for talking about him and knowing we disagree with eachother. You really are an arse.
Costas
I am counting 9 assists. And have checked on Espn which says 8, but after the CC I think the figure is 9. Giving a player an extra 50% assists really does require some explanation such as giving rooney an extra 50% goals would be inaccurate.
Valencia’s
Wigan (a) Assist
Bolton (h) Goal
CSKA (a) Goal
Everton (h) Goal, Assist
West Ham (a) Goal, Assist
Wolves (h) Goal
Wigan (h) Goal, Assist
Burnley (h) Assist
Milan (a) Assist
West Ham (h) Assist x2
Villa (n) Assist
6 goals, 9 Assists
I feel that is a good return although 4 goals and 6 assists have been against relegation sides. We still have to win those games to be champions.
brett1985 – Was it Valencia who put it on Wazza’a head opening day against Brum or Nani?
I agree with you about Villa’s gameplan. I am convinced they were hoping to play ten men. They won’t shut up about it being a “turning point”. Evra was alongside Vida anyway.
What has happened King Eric is that Villa played their best and didn’t make a chance. So in retrospect making a big deal about the decision provided a good excuse for them. It was Nani on the opening day btw. I usually don’t get too bogged down on assists, though they are already a generous statistic. Anderson got an assist last season for a 5 yard pass to Ronaldo against Porto, while shots which rebound off the keeper and are followed in also count. With those already counted, I don’t know how much more generous people can be with the total!
@King Eric:
That was Nani.
@brett
The Premier League’s official website says he has 9 assists in the League:
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
Uefa’s website says he has 1 assist in the Ch.League:
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/player=101303/index.html
And he has 1 assist in the League cup. That makes it 11.
The reason why it’s debatable whether it’s 11, 12 or 13, is because he made the cross for Owen’s goal vs CSKA but Nani flicked it to Owen’s path. The same thing happened at the Wastelands with Giggs’ goal.
And he has scored 7 this season.
@Brett
The Premier league’s official website says he has 9 assists in the league. He has 1 in the Ch.League and 1 in the Carling Cup. So that makes it 11. The reason why I said 13, is because he crossed the ball for Owen v CSKA and Giggs v City, but it wasn’t the final ball. There was a touch before the goals wee scored. So it’s not 13.
And he has scored 7 goals. The goal against CSKA at OT is awarded to him.
I would post the link of the Premier League website, but my comment went under moderation.
Sorry for the double comment.
The goal is an easy one, officially that may have been awared to him but as his shot was going wide (vs cska) well its an own goal. I don’t really know why his was credited with it. Okay I may seem pedantic here and to a certain extent I am saying horay that it was credit to him but overall you can’t really praise a player for striking a shot 4 yards wide.
Assists wise I see the difference here. You and the premier league website say he has 9 in the league and I believe it was 7 and Espn says it was 7. I actually think he may have been awarded an assist away to Everton when he crossed the ball to a defender who failed to clear and Berbatov scored. Again that to me shows the nature of assists as a poor statistic if that is being credited as an assist.
In recent times though, Valencias assist against Milan, West Ham and Villa were real contributions which show a marked improvement and I think we can only bear witness to that improvement if we accurately account for what he is doing. His crossing in my view was wretched a while back, crosses going to defenders was par for the course so I’m not very tempted to heap credit on him for everton (a) and that dubious asssist. But I think yesterday he looked up and picked out Rooney and was unlucky a second time not to do it again.
@brett1985
That’s the problem with assists I agree. The one at Everton is probably a debatable one. They probably credit it to Valencia because he is the last United player to touch the ball before Berbatov scored. It counts for me.
At the end of the day, 6 goals 9 assists or 7 goals 11 assists, it’s still a good turn out for a right winger in his first season at United. And the good thing is what you said. That he is starting to have a more significant impact now.
Well Costas I agree and I will be the first to admit that I was very unsure about him. That said, my stance was that he was at best a squad player so I didn’t want him out the door. But this is the thing, the evidence in the past watching 2 seasons at Hull was that he was not up to much. The evidence at teh start of the season was that he was not up to much. Suddenly he has sprung to life and it is create to see. So, I am still a bit wary about him because like I said above, perhaps harshly, his contributions have not often been in big matches yet and even when they were, Everton H- we ran out easy winners, or against Milan he was brought on to exploit a specific weakness that suited him (Favalli) and Rooney made the most of his cross.
Super critical I know but in the end if he keeps up the quantity, does it against the big teams, then we have an asset. But I just wonder if Nani will get the nod again because lets not forget one thing- against Arsenal- Nani played, and against Milan Nani played. So Valencia has bought himself games, he will be picked between now and the end of the season. That is important in the sense that he could have ended up benched against without these assists.
Berbatov is having very similar fortunes to Valencia- not being picked for certain matches but tiding himself over with goals here and some decent link up play. I just wonder about these players- the acid test is still to come.
@brett
The funny thing is that I thought his crossing was quite good at first. I remember that I was very impressed with him against Valencia. A friendly game of course, but he looked like a threat on the right. And his cross for Rooney at Wigan was on the same pattern. But then he stopped creating and started scoring the odd goal. And now he is back to creating goals. I think it’s a transitional season for him. Against Everton, his crossing was bad. And 3 days later against West Ham, it was very good. He is still inconsistent. I actually thought that Park was man of the match yesterday.
At the moment it’s tough to say what’s going to happen with our wingers. It’s the one area where we are spoiled for choice. We could see Nani on the left again. Or we could play 4-5-1 and play Valencia in the center like he does for Ecuador. But I will agree on something. Crunch time is ahead of us and players like Valencia, Nani and Berbatov have to step up. They are doing a good job suppoting Rooney so far, but we might have to depend on them at some point.
brett1985 – Do you mean Wigan mate, not Hull? I really think he will be a great player for United. Its never easy first season at United and he has shown a huge improvement like you said. Infact you can see an improvement game by game. He always knows where Wayne is now.
Indeed i meant wigan.