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Can We Play You Every Week?… Or Something Like That

In my tips for the game, I had Paul Scholes down for first scorer in a 2-1 win. £670 on offer for those of you who fancied it! I wonder what odds the bookies would have given you for a Scholes header though. Perfectly placed by Scholesy from a Wayne Rooney cross, and he amazingly went on to be named Man of the Match at Setanta. Given the frequency at which he gave the ball away, this came as a surprise, but I suppose it was slim pickings!

What the fuck is going on with our team? There just seems to be nothing like the desire or hunger we saw a couple of months ago. The players insist it isn’t tiredness, so what is it?

Part of me wasn’t happy to see Federico Macheda come on. I liked the magic of his Aston Villa substitute appearance and couldn’t believe he would actually do it again. So, I guess that’s what makes football bloody brilliant, because he did do it again, with his first touch of the ball! Purposefully putting away a Michael Carrick shot, Macheda deserves all the attention he is getting at the moment.

The Rooney-Berbatov-Tevez formation was a shambles at Anfield and it wasn’t much better today. Berbatov was a surprise inclusion today and he looked rusty. As the final whistle went, Berbatov was back on the bench with his foot iced, looking desperately disappointed.

Rooney was lively and effective like usual, but all from the left of the park. Why, why, why? Just because Rooney is capable of playing pretty much every position, it doesn’t mean he should be forced to prove it every week. Stick him in the middle and let him go where he likes. We will reap the benefits!

I thought Ronaldo made a bright contribution to the game after he came on. Looks threatening on the attack and he even tracked back! It seems as though the manager has had words and backed that up by dropping him to the bench. Fingers crossed for more of the same from Ronaldo over the next few weeks!

Sunderland put up a good fight and were desperately unlucky at times, particularly when a first half attempt came back off the woodwork. I’m not sure how much of their performance was down to them playing well or us playing dreadfully, but there were periods of the game where they were on top and were more than capable of putting a good ball in to the box.

Their goal came from a mistake by Ben Foster, who misjudged the height of a cross coming in and lunged at it. He was never going to get enough on it to clear the danger and let Kenwyne Jones in to finish off the gift he was presented.

United probably did have the best of the chances though, with Rooney coming close on a number of occasions, Park almost scoring our second just before half-time, and a desperately close effort from Paul Scholes. Add to that the goal-line clearance from a Vidic header in the first half, as well as the great blocking to keep Tevez out, and an opportunity Berbatov should have done much better with it, and United could have been left to rue their inability to put these chances away.

I’m starting to wonder whether we’ll be able to see it to the end of the season like this, crawling over the finish line. Chelsea and Liverpool have a better goal difference than us, meaning we’re really going to have to make the most of our game in hand in a weeks time.

Again, it’s the points not the performance we’ll be looking at, and again it’s Kiko we’re thanking!




 

55 Comments

  1. Devilinho says:

    same performance against porto and we are out officially.. but for now we are still top of the league..

    please score two goals in the first half against porto, and let them feel the pressure of the devils. but based upon our performance last weeks, we are not capable of scoring two goals in row.. things can change, i hope they will.

  2. Johan says:

    Viva Macheda, viva Macheda! Only seventeen but a goal machine, viva Macheda!

  3. Macheda is GOD says:

    Hell,we can’t let a young italian show us the way…We need something spectacular at porto if we are going to win the 5. Honestly i feel we are playing sh*t.Didn’t we cruise against sunderland last year? Honestly we need at least 2 goals against porto …For a booster and Revive the team fatigue…lest hope we win everything ay?All in all we still can gloat that liverfool crashed out of the CL :)

  4. Gary says:

    Not at all confident about Porto next week, but I would gladly take the the Premiership over the European cup any day! Massive 3 points, one less game to play. My favourite player Berbatov didnt let me down again! Sitting on the bench looking dissapointed, so he should be, his contribution was pathetic.

  5. Doherty says:

    Kikos done it again! Shouldnt have to come to that tho…..

  6. Eli Shares says:

    Why not put Macheda and Rooney upfront for the match against Porto? With great performance showed by Macheda, I doubt that Sir Alex will keep and retain Tevez for the coming season.

  7. diva says:

    there’s smthg gg on and its reflected in the play, Wenger recently said smthg along the lines that mental tiredness can be/is more damaging than physical, possibly that’s wats affecting the team?? i really thought after the first goal they’d be all guns blazing cause sunderland were there for the taking, yet it was more of plod, plod, plod.

    think dropping/resting ronaldo was a good move fm fergie…he needed that wake up call and he has looked tired.
    rooney was rooney, brilliant…think there was even a point where he looked like he was about to lunge to get the ball than decided not to and actually tackled and won the ball..think it was right after he was booked…

    3 pts in the bag which is the important thing and hopefully, fingers crossed and all that the boys will be really up for it come weds…oh and thank u macheda!! our new solskjaer??

  8. Anon says:

    Off Topic: Manucho scored for Hull today, and it was bloody brilliant header too. Looks like he is finally finding his footing in this league. Fancy him in Red yet, boys?

    PS: Another (former) Red on the score sheet today, Mikael Silvestre! Bet Arsene is thanking SAF right now.

  9. North Stand Tier 2 says:

    I thought Rooney was brilliant again today, we need him to play that well on Wednesday night for sure.

    Hugely disappointed by Berbatov again today, it’s not his lack of tracking back that frustrates me, but he never moves off the ball, or gets into dangerous/goal scoring positions. He often passes the ball forward from deep and stands there watching the brilliance of his 10 yard pass, not moving or getting into a position where he can cause some damage.

    To be honest, I’m not 100% sure what he brings to the side at all. Still, must at least give him till the end of the season to prove his worth, but by the looks of the ice pack on his ankle and anguish on his face at the end of the game, I don’t see him making the Porto game.

    Obviously we don’t want our players out injured, but it might be a blessing in disguise if we see the Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo front three that brought us so much success last season.

    Anyone else got any thoughts on Berbatov and his general lack of influence on games?

  10. costas says:

    North Stand Tier 2 i still haven’t watched that game.When i will watch it later tonight i will have a clearer perspective about Berba.But he has come back from an injury and it did take some time for him to get settled and give us a decent couple of months in January and February.On Wednesday,he must not start.He is not in the mood yet.I fancy him to make an impact on the FA cup semi final but on Wednesday we will need players 100% ready,fit and committed to the cause.

  11. Anon says:

    North Stand, obviously he wasn’t a 100% today mate. I still think he can be vital to us in the near future, next season might see him bang them in more regularly. We have seen glimpses this season, and every reason to think that we might see em more often in 09-10.

  12. Drew Vader says:

    Anon– in a word, No. He’s a Championship level player at best.

    NorthStand– I agree. I’m severely disappointed by Berba. I remember his performance with Spurs at OT last year where he ran himself to death and was a constant danger the entire the match, giving Vidic and Rio more than they could handle. Has he reproduced a performance of that quality ONCE this season? Or tried even half as hard. I counted one shot in anger today from him, a half ass lazy effort that he skied miles over, and ONE telling pass, where he sent Tevez through. Other than that….. well……a few touches around midfield where the kept the ball moving I guess, and then walked/half ass jogged forward after it. I’m aware he has been out injured, but F, this isn’t the time to allow him to play himself in to form. We don’t have time for that. If you’re not on form then sit on the f’ing bench. But I know it won’t f’ing happen and will bet money on him starting on Wed. Oh well.

  13. Scott the Red says:

    North Stand – Be fair to Berbatov. He has been out with injury and was clearly still feeling it, given he was iced up at the end. Only van Rapist has assisted more goals than Berbatov this season.

    But then it doesn’t even need to be about statistical proof of what he brings to the team. He wasn’t at the races today and he hasn’t been for a few weeks, but then, who has? He’s a touch of class and I’m made up he’s one of ours. He’ll come good.

  14. Anon says:

    Not a word on Vida guys? Atleast one of our defenders looking back in confidence should be a big boost ahead of Porto, no?

  15. costas says:

    Anon i haven’t watched but Skysports says he was a rock.If he is getting over the LIverpool game then that’s a huge boost for the team.

  16. Anon says:

    He definitely was Costas, and also a goal scoring threat, near misses with a header and an overhead kick off the rebound! I thought it was Rooney for a moment. We could easily play him up front with Wayne, he bang in a few i think!

  17. yo says:

    i have the feeling manchester united win at porto,2-1 0r 3-2,i know it’ll be hard,not many teams have done it there.if y’all a manu fan,y’all should be full of optimism,remember inter milan 1999.i was young but believed in my team manchester united.and for macheda man he definitely has his place in the senior team,ther are many waiting for their chances,possebon,fabio,macheda’s country man petrucci,eckersly is a great defender,there are bunch of great young players,full of talent,desire , hunger,ability,winning mentality,fairly deserve to be introduced in the senior team.

  18. North Stand Tier 2 says:

    Good point about Vidic, he played very well today, unlucky to not score with a towering header and then bicycle kick!!??! Evans has looked shaky, but he’s young and inexperienced and has generally done really well this season. It goes without saying how important it is we get Rio back in there, unquestionably the best defender in the world.

    Scott, you are right, Berba isn’t fit and from all the reports prior to the game I was shocked he started today, thought he might be out for longer. But we are at the business end of the season, and he needs to put in a better showing than that man, he was an absolute passenger today, completely anonymous. I guess over the course of the season so far I’ve been quite disappointed by his lack of goal threat and general lack of influence on games, I don’t think it’s unfair to expect more for a £30m striker.

    Still it’s amazing how football changes so quickly, if he comes good in the FA cup and then Champs League final he’ll be a legend…

  19. keanesmagichat says:

    lads on a different subject i mentioned martin jol for manager on another article got no feedback, just a thought..
    he is having a supberb season with hamburg, joint top of the league, ueafa cup quarter finalists, german cup semi finalists, his team plays attractive football.. and he knows the premiership and ive always liked his personal style, he takes no shit (rememeber his bust uo with wenger)… if moyes is getting mentioned i think he definitely warrants a thought… what do ye think?

  20. costas says:

    keanesmagichat actually i have always rated him as a good coach.In the summer i did ponder for a while if he would have been good as CQ’s replacement.I don’t want to take anything away from him,but the jury is still out if he can cut it in one of the top 4 in England.I tell you what.If he does knock out Shity,my opinion of him will get a hell of a lot better!

  21. Drew Vader says:

    KMH– We could do far worse (think, TNSSO) What about Zola? He’s got West Ham playing with passion and organization with a bunch of teenagers and people I’d never heard of before. I’ve been impressed. And he would get on well with our man Kiko!!

  22. keanesmagichat says:

    i would absolutley hate it if moyes got the job, i think jol is a decent shout.. certainly better than moyes or o neil in my view… however i would think he is a long shot… in my opinion champions league expeience will be a necessity.. unless he gets hamburg in there next year… tactically he is very good… hamburg played cit=eh off the park on thursday.. granted cit-eh are shite

  23. costas says:

    Zola is another good choice.Moyes seems to have done a good job but can eh handle the pressure?I think that SAF was right when he said that you can never know.Maybe in 2-3 years when he retires,Martin Jol might be one of the hottest names in management.

  24. keanesmagichat says:

    zola if he continues in the way he is at the moment, would certainly warrant a mention, however i think the next manager will have to have champions league expeirence… gudiorla is not doing too bad with barca mind you

  25. costas says:

    @keanesmagichat,i can’t see him leaving Barca.It’s a case of him knowing the club inside out and that’s why that marriage works.It will be an interesting choice though.And SAF himself has said that he wants experience.

  26. keanesmagichat says:

    no costas i meant he is doing well in the champions league with no previous expeirence…

  27. costas says:

    Oh ok.Chelsea and Hiddink will be a good test for him though.That’s where we will see what this Barca is made of.After the 06 World Cup,i thought Klinsmann would have been a good candidate.Yes,i know.You can slap me.

  28. Devilton says:

    The thing about Berbatov is…he just doesn’t look like he has the desire to go out and win games. He hasn’t ever looked like a dominant player since we signed him. Sure, he has games where he shows glimpses of a class player, but when was the last time he scored a crucial goal against a top side? When have you seen him do anything that proves he has what it takes to win a game when United need him the most?

    Never. He’s the same lazy git with a genius touch that he was at Bremen and Spuds. He’ll play well when he’s fit and feels like it and that’s simply not good enough. I really wish we could go back in time and passed him over for someone like Manucho / Frazier and now Macheda. I think all three players have more desire and hunger to do well for the club, something that Berbatov has not yet proved he has.

    I know he’s playing off an injury…but fucks sake. How long before even the most faithful amongst us start to whisper the words ’30 million pound flop”?

    With regards to the team and the game today. Once again, it’s clear that players like Scholes and Neville while legends are now in the twilight of their career. I love that the ginger one scored today…but how many times did he give the ball away today? and some of them in crucial positions. Hate to say it…but both players need to consider retiring at the end of this season so their legacy is preserved.

    To challenge for all titles we need more depth in our squad and while our veterns have a role to play, we can’t expect them to play more then 15-20 games a season. They don’t have the legs for it anymore. The results at the end of the season will determine what needs changing but i’d wager we make a few significant acquisitions in the summer and some big names will be leaving the club.

  29. keanesmagichat says:

    i agree, i think berbatov has been a waste really… could have bought a serious player for that… i dont think he has it upstairs… he has no desire to fight for the club, every game utd play is a battle as the other sides raise their game.. i dont think he has the stomach for it to be honest.. i would love for him to be fucked out and someone with a stronger personality in in his place.. the guy is a nonce… however while he plays we should support him, but i for one belive he has been a major flop.. he has gotten goals but nothing really important

  30. hjkor says:

    hivety havaty

  31. North Stand Tier 2 says:

    We should have gone for more direct player, like Villa or Benzema, but at the end of the day neither were available and both would cost significantly more than £30m.

    Berba looked good at Spurs, but you are right in that opponents step up their game against Utd, and more often than not close down the space between defense and midfield with 2 deep lying centre midfielders. He doesn’t get the space to work, and without the pace or strength to get past a man I don’t really see how he will ever fit. Great and talented player, just not the right one for Utd – a complete misfit in my opinion.

    I’d like to see Tevez and Rooney with Ronaldo roaming like he did last year for the rest of the season. Tried and trusted, we won the double, and scored shit loads of goals with that.

    Neville and Scholes aren’t fit enough, I don’t know if it’s lack of games (esp in Nev’s case) or just age. But they are both too slow and weak right now. Problem is, we simply haven’t got the money to replace them all this summer!!

  32. NicoQB says:

    I’m going to copy-paste the comment of a fellow commentor from redrants about Berba:
    [he]…was our best player on the pitch until he started to fade a little in the second half. He contributed to the first goal, had a nice flick to Scholes which led to a strike, a lay off to Carrick that led to a strike, his first touch was excellent as usual, and he held the ball up tremendously. Even though the midfield was still rather shit, they looked more composed than they have for the last 4 games and that is in large part due to Berba’s hold-up play. Oh, he also won a free kick in a dangerous area and should have been awarded another (if not a penalty). That’s not bad for a first game back from injury (which I suspect he is still struggling with a bit). Other than that it is all his fault as usual.

    It amazes me that when Berbatov and Tevez both have average games, the view is that one has had a crap game, no commitment whatsoever (despite having good touches and all), the other is praised for his running and commitment (despite failing to actually creating something out of his periods of possession). No, right now Berbatov is not playing like a 30million man, can be disappointing – especially compared to Rooney and new boy Macheda – but people are tempted to view the glass as half-full for one and half-empty for the other.

  33. Eli Shares says:

    @diva
    Our new Solkjear? Most likely – the supersub baby-face assasin!!! He just assasinated Villa and Sunderland. Was wondering if he was subbed in during the previous match against Porto, I’m positive that he’ll bag 3 consecutive assassination on a row.

    I thought Chelsea gonna get wrapped up before the final whistle blows. The goal clips of Bolton keep on showing up and I was so amazed and surprised that these lads are really fighting hard to share a point with the rent boys.

  34. keanesmagichat says:

    its not berbas flicks and control that i would have a problem with. I think he does not have a stomach for a fight… Simple. And he has never produced when we really need him, tevez on the other hand has…
    berba’s face doesnt fit, i think he should be sold but i doubt that that will happen…. he is the player i dislike the most in the present squad… no balls whatsoever

  35. King Eric says:

    Well not the 3-0 win I predicted but 3 points all the same. I have stood by Berba all season and still will. Not a great performance but we won non the less. A very attacking line up today I thought with only Carrick being a defensive mid fielder. Good to see Scholsey get on score sheet. Another genius substitution by Sir Alex, how many other managers (such as the FSW) would risk putting a 17 year old kid on at 1-1? An inspired change. Sick of the fuckin pundits saying things such as “United need to get their back four sorted out” and “Why are Uniteds defence so shaky”. Considering three quarters of a back four have been injured with the worlds best Centre Half been one of them what do they really expect. Did anyone see the Waiters arrogant fuckin smirk when Torres scored his second? Despise the twat. Blackburn were a disgrace today and once again just rolled over for the dippers.

    Still not firing on all cylinders but at least we are getting the results, it must really sicken the scousers to see us playing no way near our best but still winning. Well next two games are at home and as long as we keep getting the 3 points and winning there is nothing the vermin or rentboys can do. UNITED!

  36. corea says:

    Oh my god!
    we’ve won 2-1. scholesy again played from the start, scored the goal and you still find bad words for him.
    Gary and Scholesy have played 90 minutes today and you say they don’t have the legs ? CMON!
    Scott is right. Who is shining these days for us ? Rooney ? Yes, he rolled up his sleeves and worked as an idiot for us. He is a legend. But Berba. He played for us not beeing fully fit. He will come good. Just don’t make up thoughtless and hurried conclusions. Enjoy the victory (as much as we can do in this circumstances) and the first place in the table.

  37. Eric the Red says:

    @NicoQB

    Just for the record, so i don’t sound like a complete idiot, I did start that comment “With the exception of Rooney…” as Rooney, for me, was clearly the best player on the pitch.

  38. denton davey says:

    NorthStandTier2: “I’d like to see Tevez and Rooney with Ronaldo roaming like he did last year for the rest of the season. Tried and trusted, we won the double, and scored shit loads of goals with that.”

    I second that motion.

    It’s obvious (to me !) that the team just doesn’t perform as well when Berbatov is in the line-up. My view is that he slows the game down too much. It’s got nothing to do with being “lazy”, it’s all about his style of play. SAF made a big mistake in changing last year’s successful formation – it’s hardly paid ANY dividends so far this year.

    I think that the same complaint can be made about Paul Scholes – as a midfielder, he slows down the game. His header today was vintage – running into space and scoring. But he can’t do that when he’s deployed as a “holding midfielder” because his lungs/legs don’t provide the platform.

    I wrote yesterday that Scholes’ best value to the team would be as a super-sub in those situations where the game is in the balance during the last thirty minutes.

    On a different topic – did any of you see Torres’ first goal ? Absolutely brilliant – and to think that it was Carragher who passed it to him ! Wonders never cease. I didn’t see his second because I turned off the telly when L’poo went up – you could see that Blackburn weren’t up for it. No wine for Sam !!!!

  39. North Stand Tier 2 says:

    Keano, I wouldn’t go as far as to say he is my least favorite player, that award goes to Nani, who rolls around and embarrasses himself time and again.

    NicoQB, I have to disagree, you don’t pay £30m for a man to just lay off the ball on the edge of the area, even I could do that. It’s his general involvement in the final third, or lack there of, that is a problem for me.

    The thing with Tevez is at least he does contribute by causing errors in defense through his hard work, and he has scored some CRITICAL goals for Utd in big games. How important could that goal against Porto turn out to be?!? No matter what you say, at the moment Berba simply isn’t doing that.

    The only one i can think of was in the last minute against Bolton at the council house they call a stadium – and to be fair, that was an unmissable header from 2 yards out… They all count though, but we need more from him, much much more.

  40. North Stand Tier 2 says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1169319/Rafa-taunts-Fergie-I-understand-word-says.html?ITO=1490

    Benitez is such a cock, FACT…! I can’t believe he has brought Meeeeeeeeeeeessssssttteerrrr Ferrrrrggooooooooosssunn’s supposed inaudible accent into it… Pot calling the kettle black me thinks…

  41. corea says:

    Thу moment for Macheda to play first team football in the CL has gone with the home game against Porto. I doubt he will start at Porto.

    NorthStandTier2: “I’d like to see Tevez and Rooney with Ronaldo roaming like he did last year for the rest of the season. Tried and trusted, we won the double, and scored shit loads of goals with that.”

    mates. what works today doesn’t by all means work the year later. you have to change your game before your opponents will read every step you make on the pitch. others do not stand still.

  42. mr.quickstep says:

    Geez, guys, stop blaming Berba for everything. He was out for a few weeks and played injured today. Doesn’t that count for something? Doesn’t that show a desire to win? He was not in the starting 11 against Liverpool, got injured against Fullham, not in against Villa, not in for Porto and we still played poorly without him. You need to stop reacting emotionally and start looking into the quality of his game. Watch the tonight’s game again if you need. Look at the way he holds the ball. the passes, the touch, the vision. Yes he doesn’t sprint, but this is not the Olympics. We need a “brain” in the final 3rd
    On the other hand, the Macheda boy is very energetic and brings dynamics to the attack, but he didn’t hold the ball well. Watch the game again. He showed good instinct to direct the ball and that you get born with

  43. NicoQB says:

    Eric the REd:
    Sorry mate! Of course Rooney was clearly the best player on the pitch today! I was just in a haste to paste your well-thought of remarks that I modified it of its original meaning.

    North Stand Tier 2 Said:
    Many of Tevez’s so-called CRITICAL goals last seasons were also unmissable, scored from two yards out. ANd your point about TEvez causing errors in the opposition defense, sorry but I’d much rather have someone able to create some dangerous occasions rather than he getting the ball and losing it and getting it back – this usually ends up with the team losing all of it attacking momentum. Right now giving Tevez the ball is like giving Park the ball – they are both toothless in terms of attacking menace. I admire his effort and commitment as much as anybody, but after seeing him time and again make the wrong decision with the ball at his feet I have grown tired of it.

    What really bugs me more than anything else is how quick fans are to defend Tevez when he’s been underperforming for many many games now, while Berbatov will be always be slated, even when he’s just come back from injury. Double standards as far as I’m concerned.

    And as for seeing “Tevez and Rooney with Ronaldo roaming like he did last year..” well this trio started a few games recently but we’ve now seen that this also requires the MIDFIELD to be doing its job which they’re not doing at the moment. Berbatov is far from being the real problem in our team, what’s really worrying is how our midfield has been looking really ordinary for the past months now. Now that this is clear I just wonder how much of the attacking woes of this team were put on the back of Mr Berbatov when the midfield has been letting us down.

  44. misterq says:

    +1

  45. keanesmagichat says:

    north stand, i hear u with regards to nani.. but age and expeirence wise berba is ahead… granted bolton was a big goal… i just think he is a luxury player and one we cant afford at the moment… id have fancied etoo at half the price.. his age profile might not fit into fergie’s view but he is fit as a flea and is a goal machine…
    i detest berba’s attitude, i know he is not going to run like rooney or tevez, but a bit of passion would be nice… i would love for him to get shown the door to be honest…
    mind you if he pops up with some important goals maybe my view will change, but i doubt it on both counts

  46. King Eric says:

    KeanesMagicHat & NorthStand – Lets not forget his winner at home to Boro and winner against Spuds in FA Cup. Think everyone should reserve judgement till end of season at least.

  47. Giles Oakley says:

    Remember what people were saying about Sheringham in his first season, how he was no replacement for Cantona etc? I think we’ll see the best of Berba next season, when he’s had a full pre-season and his team mates are used to him. He’s been very unlucky with injuries this season, like so many United players. But there we are, still in with a real chance for 3 more trophies, and if his ankle isn’t crocked again now, I think he’ll still do the business for us.

  48. denton davey says:

    Giles Oakley: “I think we’ll see the best of Berba next season, when he’s had a full pre-season and his team mates are used to him.”

    Maybe, MaybeNOT !

    The point is that so far – seven months and counting – he’s not really done the job and, much more worringly, he has been responsible for distorting the shape of the team’s attack. This is not a “personal” vendetta, just a consideration of what I’ve seen (and others, too) in the season so far.

    There’s precious little evidence that this will change – he is what he is, in terms of playing style. It just seems WRONG to me that we are now in a situation in which the team has to adjust to his style because he cannot or will not adjust to the team’s winning style.

  49. mark says:

    did anyone see carrick run away to celebrate the goal then look around sheepishly when he realised it came of macheda and he was celebrating scoring too

  50. Drew Vader says:

    Nico– He’s a striker. So tell me, how many strikes on goal did he have that brought a save out of Gordon today? (zero)

    How many strikes did he have that just barely missed? (zero)

    How many strikes from inside the box did he have that went a mile over? (one)

    How many incisive passes did he give that lead directly to a shooting opportunity for a teammate? (two)

    Thats not good enough. And as I’ve said before, I’m well aware of the fact that he just returned from injury. But we don’t have time to allow him to waste 60 mins of jogging around to get match fit, let him play a reserve match for that. And ffs, we were playing Sunderland, a relegation threatened team who had a CB in Davenport who hadn’t started a match in ages, and he still wasn’t dangerous.

  51. Marq says:

    Well Drew, my opinion is we must give him as the 60mins to get match fit, because we need him match fit!

    I’ve mentioned it before, Berbatov can help us slow down a game, something we need for certain games, especially in Europe. If anything, it was Tevez playing the poorer of the 2 up front, along with Park today, I would give them the lowest rating today.

    The game as a whole, there was a slight difference in the way we played today. With Berbatov in the centre getting all the attention, Rooney was left 1-on-1 with Bardsley all night, and even the 5 mins Ronaldo played with Berbatov, Ronaldo had 2 possessions 1-on-1 with their left back. Also, didn’t it occur to some of you Scholes had one of his best attacking games, coming forward, rather than passing it forward? It was Berbatov pushing the backline back that Scholes could come into those positions. Yes Berbatov is not running around chasing everything, but his pressence alone give us something we don’t have with Rooney & Tevez. To add a stat to it, count how many offsides we have today

  52. Vivek says:

    @Marq – at what cost mate? Yes Berba helps us retain the ball longer, yes he does pull the opposition backline, but the cost we pay for this is a walking pace attack that couldnt outrun my grandma. Berbatov would have been excellent for us if we had a Cesc Fabegas or a Gerrard, who could read the flicks and tricks and drive into the box, along with Rooney and Ronaldo…but fact is we dont have a real AMF, and until we get one, Berba will remain a luxury player, one who will preform only when the entire team is playing well

  53. Gary says:

    Marq: “I’ve mentioned it before, Berbatov can help us slow down a game, something we need for certain games, especially in Europe.”

    How can slowing down the game in the final third aid us as an attacking force in Europe? I fail to see what Berbatov brings to our side? The guy is 6ft tall and useless in the air, he lacks pace, he’s lacking strength and any kind of fight about him. He just needs to get on with it for fuck sake, how bad can his foot fucking be?

    United should count their losses, but they wont, and to be honest who would buy him of us? No big club in Europe showed any interest in him bar us? We would do well to get 12 million for him!

  54. Didsbury_King says:

    All Berbatov has done is show himself to be a waste of cash

    If he wants to stop the ‘waste’ tag, he needs to shut the fans up like Rio did

    Problem is, he lacks the fight to do so

    He seems to think ‘ambition accomplished’ just because he is at man utd.

  55. mancirishred says:

    Kiko time!

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