Manchester City’s new signing, who said he ‘gave his life for the United shirt‘, claimed he was leaving for football reasons. The fact that City are prepared to pay £150,000-a-week for a player who was on £90,000-a-week at United did not factor in to Tevez’s decision, he claims. It wasn’t a move about money rather a move for football. He didn’t play enough for United last season so was going to play for a club who would play him as much as he felt he deserved to be played.
Last season, Manchester City played a total of 56 matches in all competitions. 16 of those matches were in the UEFA Cup. Take those matches away and City played a total of 40 matches in all competitions.
This season, City are not in the UEFA Cup, but they will enter the League Cup in the second round (as they did last season where they were knocked out by League One Brighton) and the FA Cup in the third round. If City reach the League Cup final they will play seven games in that competition and if they reach the FA Cup final they will play a further six games. In total, the maximum number of games City can play in is 51.
Given that Manchester City haven’t reached a cup final since 1981, chances of Tevez playing in 51 games for City this season are slim to none.
But how many games did unhappy and disrespected Carlos Tevez play in last season?
Premiership minutes: 1667
Champions League minutes: 436
FA Cup minutes: 300
League Cup minutes: 509
Total minutes: 2912
Total appearances: 51
Tevez played in the equivalent of 32.4 matches for the full 90 minutes, 36.4 matches fo 80 minutes, or 41.6 matches for 70 minutes.
If Manchester City reach the finals of the FA and League Cups, Tevez still will not be able to play in more games for them next season than he did for us last.
To get a better grasp of just how much football Tevez will play in next season, let’s compare this with City’s star man, Robinho.
Premiership minutes: 2454
Champions League minutes: 0
FA Cup minutes: 0
League Cup minutes: 0
Total appearances: 30
Robinho played the equivalent of 27.3 matches for the full 90 minutes. You will have noticed I referred to Champions League minutes and haven’t included the appearances he made in the UEFA Cup. Firstly, this is to highlight Tevez’s step down from Champions League football, but also to recognise how few games are on offer without any European football, which will be City’s situation next season. Some may argue that Robinho would have played in more domestic cup games had he not been rested for Europe.
Total possible FA Cup minutes: 90
Total possible League Cup minutes: 120
So had Robinho featured in all City’s FA and League Cup games, he still would have played 248 fewer minutes than Tevez did for United last season.
Tevez tried to make out he wasn’t all about the money and maybe lots of people bought it. Maybe City fans genuinely think they’ve got this hard-worker who just loves the game in the team, who left United simply because he loves playing so much. However, in reality, he will play less football at City next season than he did at United during a season he felt so ‘disrespected’ and went there just for the money.
The man City fans will be singing for next season was grabbing our badge last season, and still talks of his love for United fans… but will be more than happy to keep picking up his pay cheque from Wastelands!
[edit] It really is a shame City fans can’t get involved in sensible football discussion without talking about Munich. Your comments will continue to be deleted[/edit]
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what a cunt
Scott, enough of these mate, it’s making us look very bitter when we probably couldn’t give two shits anymore
You ‘Rags’ are bigger whingers than my wife. When you get a spare moment just sit back and read some of your comments regarding Citys latest signing.
What a bunch of losers you really are. So Fergie doesn’t think that he has to buy any more players does he – old bacon face really does like a laff doesn’t he?
The truth is that the ‘stormseal brothers’ have shafted your lot good and proper and it couldn’t happen to a nicer club and their equally pathetic fans.
Go on have a good cry it will make you feel better.
I don’t hold out much hope of this remaining in print Mr Scott.
Not this again we will have all shity fans on here again talking about the 84 thousand they got against stoke, for the record tevez sucks.
@Tom Roberts
Give it a rest dickhead.. let your team do the talking on the pitch for once
More intelligent comments from Micky the Red, what’s up Micky? is that fear I smell?
and I thought you lot didn’t think about us at all….
Fear of what? A team that hasn’t won fuck all for 30 plus years?
We didn’t even own him.
Ha ha I love these bitters coming and starting to believe in their own hype you buy one of our subs and start to think you are a big club, but in reality you have won fuck all in 33 years and that will continue ,you have 9 strikers and no defenders, now please fuck off and put your tea towel on your head.
What ever excuses he gives for not signing for you, he didn’t want to sign for you. Get over it and move on!
How many more Tevez threads are we going to have!
Get over it man!
Micky wake up for once and look around you, I will repeat this only once so take notice, Your owners the ‘stormseal brothers’ are having your beloved ‘Rags’ over ‘good and proper’.
Bacon face has been told how much to spend of the ‘Ronny’ money, this has now been spent on the two players whose names I have already forgotten.
I repeat ‘they are shafting you’ but the majority of you are too gormless to actually realise it is happening.
Incidentally now someone has mentioned the 84000 at City vs Stoke in 1934 do any of you knowledgable smartasses know the biggest gate ever at the Swamp (ie Old Trafford).
Thats your breath tom
This is getting very very boring now – he has gone like all players – for whatever reason he left because he was unhappy with United – why no one will ever really know oter than Tevez – he has left for more money but that is not all – one day it will eventually dawn upon the footballing community (probably circa 15th August) when they look at the team sheet and think to themselves shit City may have a half decent team – stop behaving like slapped arses and get on with it
Of course he did…
I was hearing yesterday that City have nine strikers in their squad now… If you take into account that this season, they’ll have Robinho, Roque Santa Cruz and Adebarndoor (presuming he goes), plus another six strikers, I can’t believe Tev will play most of their games – he’ll be a squad player, just like he was at United… but without CL football… Can’t wait to see the inevitable unrest if Robinho or Adebarndoor is dropped…
Mman city have a great dressing room – bellamy, tevez, robinho and now they are signing adebayor…all big mouths with even bigger egos.
Sparky will be sacked before christmas because he will have lost the dressing room.
Interesting. But wasn’t Robinho injured for a good portion of the season around Christmas? I don’t recall Tevez having any significant knocks or international responsibilities that would have precluded him playing. Maybe I’m wrong.
Out of interest, what’s the comparison if you DO include the UEFA Cup (or – whisper it – is that where the argument falls down?).
I’m not sure about Robinho being rested from Domestic cups for European duty – just had a look at City’s fixtures from last year & although he was rested for the defeat to Brighton he did play the following Sunday which was only three days before the next UEFA game, so that’s probably not a factor. Also, while again Robinho didn’t play in the risible performance against Forest there wasn’t another UEFA cup match for 47 days so I reckon that’s out too.
It’s true to say that Tevez will play in fewer games this season than last – he can’t not – but far be it from me to point out that you may have been selective in your choice of competitions to include in order to support your argument.
he says he’s going to win trophies.
I’ll translate that into what he’s really saying. ” I’m a liar “
I see the bitters have just shelled out 25 mil on Adebayour-shit…… added to 170k wages…. ha ha…. what a circus…. if this doesn’t prove every move to that club is money based then nothing does……
Can we just draw a line under these topics cos the Bluenoses are getting too excited……. Tom Roberts….. we would love to hear from you again at Christmas and see is the battery in the city clock still working
Note to City fans….. we are not saying that we are worried about your spending…… in fact it is a touch embarrassing for you… .you are paying more than double what players are worth and then offering them stupid salaries…… is Adebayour or Tevez really worthy of a higher salary than Rooney???? I think not. If you go to the Archives on this site you will see that most of us said throughout the season that Tevez was not good enough for what was wanted for him…… and you still paid more than this amount…..
It will be interesting to see if Sparky can keep your 11 strikers happy….. I sense nothing but unrest and jealousy (internal) at the Wastelands.
right lads once and for all, tevez was a good player for us.. he was talking out of school though but he has no loyalty to united. he’s not a lifelong red and sure as fuck he is not a lifelong blue. tevez is gone and good luck to him but all this whinging makes us sound like those div cunts over in wastelands…. really we are bigger and better than that surely
Tevez deserves to be slated on and on by Scott because he ridiculed the club and our manager on and on.
Just let those Citeh fans celebrate Tevez’ signing, because that is all they are gonna celebrate.
His gone. Let it be. All has been said and done.
Let’s wish him all the best and thank him for the important goals he has scored for us.
@Tom Roberts
All this talk, what are your sources?
Fergie has refused to be bent over the barrel and pay way over the odds for players, because teams with rich sugar daddy’s like Citeh and Real Madrid are spunking endless money.
Maybe some of that money HAS gone on paying debts off, it doesn’t really matter. Let them do what they need to do for the club. They bought United to make money, no two ways about it. Trophies = Money.
We are still better than Man City and come this time next year, we’ll have won it 19 times.
You need a squad to win the league, not just eleven players. You haven’t got a chance of winning the league.
We loved Tevez because he was a trier, we loved Ronaldo because he was World class. If Tevez had the work rate of Ronaldo and was a lazy bastard tracking back, we’d have hated him.
Tick Tock Tick Tock ……….
He’s gone lets give it a rest!
He wasn’t good enough to be ahead of Berba and Rooney, do we seriously think owen will score less than tevez did? His goals have been replaced and some. We need to replace ronnie’s goals.
Tevez wants to be a big fish in a small pond. We are beginning to sound bitter, he’s gone to play for a club that have won NOTHING (no the league play-offs dont count) for 34 years! Two seasons at United, 2 league titles, Champions League, World Club Champions and the Carling Cup – only way is down as the best he could ever do is match it!
Tevez & city deserve each other, both are bitter with no class!
Let’s worry about OUR players!
@tom roberts:
Have our cry? In what world are you, mate?
We won the league, we won the Carling, we reached the CL final, and we made the double on you.
What’s there for us to cry?
Ronaldo’s leaving? We have coped with situations like this before.
Tevez saga? Well, why have a player that don’t want to play for you anymore?
We have a monumental squad, and sure will play the top class football we always play. And you can use Robinho, Tevez, Bellamy, Jo, Santa Cruz, and possibly Adebayor in your 0-0-11 formation and see how it goes.
Come back when the season end begins.
Taking his time to answer, he must have scuttled back to the City forums to ask what to say next
daveob82
with regards to the money – we know we are paying over the odds to sign these players but unfortunately that is what we have to do to attract them to a non- champions league club.
It is a catch 22 situation for the owners so they have to pay.
But dont forget at last count this Sheik Mansour had £450billion.
Or in other words £450 thousand million.
To him £25 million is like loose change.
Once we can offer Champions league football (which I personally think will still be 3 years away) then we will be able to to really start spending!!
Enjoy the next few years.
Alpha_RS.. Thats nice, agreed
“Incidentally now someone has mentioned the 84000 at City vs Stoke in 1934 do any of you knowledgable smartasses know the biggest gate ever at the Swamp (ie Old Trafford).”
Highest with standing is almost 77000. But much more impressive is 76000 record in an ALL seater stadium. 8000 less but WITH so much less space due to seats. I’d take 76000 seated as more impressive then 84000 standing but hey thats just me.
The Citeh play thing will all end in tears and I can’t wait, they would have won fuck all in 5 years, been through about 10 managers, £500m worth of players and the sheikhs will fuck off to formula one or something leaving them well and truly in the shit, tick tock, tick tock…………
Old tom roberts have no respect for your elders very bitter.
Oranges
Id rather take 58.000 with standing as in the seventies/eighties rather than the 77.000 seating nowadays – no contest
either u werent there in those days or your prawn sandwich brigade.
and that goes for any ground/club – not just yours
Last Tevez thread please, let the little goblin have his fun without us wasting our time/energy on him.
tevez was a filthy little shitcunt who scored about as often as kevin davis. Fergie, fergie, fuck him off.
lol @ tom, wrong forum mate. This is a United forum, i think you calling us bitter reminds me of the story of a Pot and Kettle and who was black. Hey, it’s understandable, we’ve won everything and you’ve won promotion. It’s bound to hurt.
The tevez saga makes me cry, cry that he didn’t go Liverpool. If he moans at winning all the trophies the world of club football has to offer and refuses to be a team player, then there is no pleasing him. When he started griping in the press, then i knew he had to go. Having a go at the managers tactics was the final straw. I cheered once i knew we weren’t spending 25m on him. He’s a hard worker and good player no doubt, but he’s just to much maintenance to keep happy it seems.
It seems from our experience of Argentinians, once they are not getting their own way, they are able to cause upset in an empty house. What manager has time to continuely stroke their egos? They are just too much hard work for not very much reward.
What are the bookies offering on who will score more out of Tevez and Owen and who will throw their toys out of the pram first, Bellemy or Tevez. I will watch with interest.
You ‘Rags’ really must make your minds up, now you say you loved Tevez cos he was a trier. I must have been reading different postings cos I don’t think I have seen any praise for him since last night.
‘Fergie ‘sign him up’ was your relentless cry at the end of the season, now you are all saying that you didn’t want him anyway, make your minds up will you? The truth is that he was begging ‘Bacon face’ for a contract ever since he went to you, Fergo kept saying ‘soon son-don’t worry’. The real truth is that the ‘stormseal brothers’ just didn’t want to fork out 25 Million for him and that is also the reason why you have aquired the 3 nobodys that you have. If that is not plain enough for you I will make it a little bit clearer so that even you red eyed thickos will understand – you don’t have the money and the three crooked used car salesmen who own you need every penny to fend off the banks.
Has anyone of you obviously very knowledgable people come up with the answer to my question yet. What is the swamps biggest attendence?
Top scorers last season in the Premier League
1 Nicolas Anelka Chelsea 19
2 Cristiano Ronaldo Man Utd 18
3 Steven Gerrard Liverpool 16
4 De Souza Robinho Manchester City 14
5 Fernando Torres Liverpool 14
6 Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 12
7 Darren Bent Tottenham 12
8 Kevin Davies Bolton 12
9 Dirk Kuyt Liverpool 12
10 Frank Lampard Chelsea 12
11 Wayne Rooney Man Utd 12
12 John Carew Aston Villa 11
13 Peter Crouch Portsmouth 11
14 Ricardo Fuller Stoke City 11
15 Robin van Persie Arsenal 11
16 Emmanuel Adebayor Arsenal 10
17 Djibril Cisse Sunderland 10
18 Carlton Cole West Ham Utd 10
19 Jermain Defoe Tottenham 10
20 Kenwyne Jones Sunderland 10
21 Robbie Keane Tottenham 10
22 Benedict McCarthy Blackburn 10
23 Matthew Taylor Bolton 10
24 Amr Zaki Wigan Athletic 10
25 Nicklas Bendtner Arsenal 9
26 Dimitar Berbatov Man Utd 9
27 Stephen Ireland Manchester City 9
28 Craig Bellamy Manchester City 8
29 Yossi Benayoun Liverpool 8
30 Chris Brunt WBA 8
31 Tim Cahill Everton 8
32 Marouane Fellaini Everton 8
33 Deiberson Geovanni Hull City 8
34 Obafemi Martins Newcastle 8
35 Michael Owen Newcastle 8
36 James Beattie Stoke City 7
37 Clinton Dempsey Fulham 7
38 Andrew Johnson Fulham 7
39 Marlon King Middlesbrough 7
40 Jason Roberts Blackburn 7
41 Tuncay Sanli Middlesbrough 7
42 Ashley Young Aston Villa 7
43 Andrey Arshavin Arsenal 6
44 Roman Bednar WBA 6
45 Blumer Elano Manchester City 6
46 Joao Alves Jo Everton 6
47 Salomon Kalou Chelsea 6
48 Florent Malouda Chelsea 6
49 Mido Wigan Athletic 6
50 Samir Nasri Arsenal 6
51 Leon Osman Everton 6
52 Louis Saha Everton 6
53 Mikel Arteta Everton 5
54 Gareth Barry Aston Villa 5
55 Felipe Caicedo Manchester City 5
56 Didier Drogba Chelsea 5
57 Johan Elmander Bolton 5
58 Emile Heskey Aston Villa 5
59 Aaron Lennon Tottenham 5
60 Danny Murphy Fulham 5
61 Roman Pavlyuchenko Tottenham 5
62 Carlos Tevez Man Utd 5
I’ll give you a clue where Tevez is… nowhere near the top
i’m sick of tevez stoeies we all know he moved for money and nothing else just like all the other mercenaries joining shitty it a f**king joke.shitty will have a team full of whores.lets just move on
The swamps biggest attendence is 40,000 or so im guessing against us last season to see your team be beaten. (you are talking about the city of manchester stadium aren’t you?)
Sorry I was a bit slow Micky, I went downstairs to turn ont Sky News, apparently our new player is being unveiled soon.
go away tom, you lacivious cretin. you are the type of person who would make fun of a brave serviceman wounded in the middle eastern conflicts. your pugnacious attempts at wit are pathetic and unfounded. you are a fan of gloryholing
The only thing City will come close to wining this season is the Reserve League Title with the number of players they are buying up – they’ll have to keep keep them fit with a turn out for the 2nd team.
Maybe Carlito will actually get more playing time this season but it’ll be for the fucking reserve team as there are now so many forwards at City.
What’s next, buy up 4-5 midfielders and a few more defenders, fucking hell at this rate a new competition will have to be invented just so the city players can all get a fucking game somewhere. Lets have some more of it, it’ll all end it a fucking mess and as someone said Hughes will probably be gone by Christmas.
Unveiled? Through a translator obviously!
No Mr Cantona7, please take the time and effort to read my previous postings. What is the highest attendence at Old Trafford aka The Swamp?
Come on, you all think that you are a load of smartasses (and no cheating by looking on the internet)
Who is Carlos Tevez?
Tom Roberts
Open your fucking eyes mate, someone answered you about 15 posts ago
Tom, you better jog off down stairs then with your baby oil and watch the unveiling…….. have fun.
And this is for you Reg Hollis, I am an ex-serviceman (medals to prove it) so don’t even go there.
Just stick to think you are a policeman in Sun Hill.
The stick Carlito is receiving makes me sick. Not that I love the guy but co we are giving him undue attention and making United look bitter. I will be doing my talking on the pitch when we meet in the derbies at City and OT
Your player is being unveiled? Are you having a massive razzamatazz event for it like your fellow “big spending” fascists over in Spain?
Also do you HONESTLY think Sir Alex has been told he can’t have the money? He would walk, simple as.
Wrong again Micky my old son,come on don’t any of you ‘Rags’ know your own clubs history? Maybe your dad will know when he comes home from work.
genious
Tom Roberts
Don’t patronise me, I’m actually a serviceman myself, so less of the ‘son’, and my dads happily sat in his retirement home wanking himself silly over the nursing assistants.. but at least I know who my fucking dad is.
“maybe your dad will know when he comes home from work” by this im guessing you are an adult and due to it being 2 o’clock why aren’t you at work? Also as you are talking to those commenting on the post as if they are all children do you think that it is somehwat sad to try and outsmart a child with insignifcant facts such as attendeces from the early part of the laste century?
Old tom roberts singing the same old tune.
You ‘Rags’ come back with weird answers ‘what is that one about’ Mr theyalwaysscore.
Tom Roberts
There’s something seriously fucked about you mate — oh I know, you’re a City supporter. Any medals you have must be for services to wanking.
77,000 is correct Tom…..
Tom, go away you are boring.
The statistics stands out so well one would wish he read this before he hit back at Sir. Any way 30 years without a trophy is so long and if his signing is going to bring trophy to your neighbors so be it, please be you brother keeper and give them a smile.
On every web site all we get is we have not won anything for 34 years, well thats one thing were behind you rags in because you went 37 years without winning anything.
33 years…….that’s a long long time. That millstone round their necks must be heavy. Highest attendance – do we really care?
Bitter blues on our forum – quite embarrasing for them really. Anyhow, we welcome you to the unknown world of champions………
RADIO DEADON you must be confused when tom roberts said he had medals he was taking the piss a bit like when someone refers to City as a big club, as no city fan could have medals as they would of had to have won something or performed well.
No Mr Cantona7 I was at work at 4.30 this morning, and as for you Micky you are really quite witty asking if I ever knew my dad.
God not that old chestnut,
Anyone worked out the highest attendence yet?
Come on Micky old son, don’t take it too personal.
Dave Ob82, Sorry Dave but you are wrong,
Are you selectively reading the posts here and ignoring the ones telling you what the correct figure is???
Question Mark – Robinho had a further 10 appearances in the UEFA Cup. If you want to count up the minutes you can do… but like I say, it’s irrelavent, because Tevez won’t get 10 appearances in the UEFA Cup next season because City aren’t in it.
@Tom
I heard your new song is every which way but lose is there any truth in that.
How is it that one little Blue Poster like me can fuck so many of your little minds up?
You arent gonna go pulling a concert or some shite out of your magic bucket!!!!
76,692 – 1939 Fa Cup Semi Final Wolves vs Grimsby….
sorry if it was rounded up but 8 people hardly makes the figure wrong.
83,260 at Maine Road, OT was being re-built.
Because your a city fan you talk so much shit that United fans are not used to.
My God Mr Scott you are as knowledgable and witty as the rest of your ill informed readers.
Come on surely someone like you who runs a site and has been a ‘Rag’ all his life will know the highest attendence at Old Trafford.
Tommie is the name of ma Dog .. But Tommie uncle why are u wasting ur time here?? go watch the unveiling of the Croc Hunter ..
I m guessing ..Are you carlito urself posting in the name of Tommie Uncle. ?
Stephen you really must pay more attention to the question that I asked.
What is the highest attendence at Old Trafford? You are right about that being the highest number of people to watch United in a league game even though it was at Maine Road.
Why try to tell him the attendence as he obviously has some obscure and quite frankly pointless statistic written down as he obviously has to much time on his hands.
SAF has alreadly stated he has the money but shitty and real madrid have gone mental in the price of transfers and wages he doesn’t want any part of it.i’ll say again its a sign of a loser club when you have to way overpay to get players to play for you
Worth a punt I thought.
I just find it funny that after spending all of yesterday evening posting on our blog….. followed by a late shift…. .that you dived straight back into our blog
Smells of envy…….
Maybe we should award you a trophy for the highest attendance…. along with the 2 leagues the dippers are claiming from the War times……
Dave, at last one of you has the answer, correct well done but my figure is 79000.
well am guessing ..the highest attendance was the
( number of people who fucked your mom before you were born + when you were in the womb+after you were born+no of people whom you doubt to be your father+no of uncles who fucked your mom)*10000
Do u have a number tommie??
All you need to do tommie is to Show a lil bit of R.E.S.P.E.C.T!!
well Tom…. sorry to rain on your parade but you are wrong.
about 40 posts ago someone wrote 77,000….. that was correct…..
Come on lads go easy on old tom he mus’nt have any friends its ok tom say your piece.
Tommie is still calculating the answer to his question:
here your/you means “tommie”
( number of people who fucked your mom before you were born + when you were in the womb+after you were born+no of people whom you doubt to be your father+no of uncles who fucked your mom)*10000
fuck off tevez you are nothing but a bad loser who can not even match the attributes of federico macheda, we will see where you end up you traitor piece of smelly sh*t.
and who needs that so called striker who cannot even manage to score 20 goals a season,you citizens are losers how can you buy such a waste who just runs from one end of the pitch to the other doing absolutely nothing.
oh i see is it because he scored against you the last time we met? or because he missed to score in an empty net? you are really horrible losers you cramps.to hell with that Argentine brat.
united long live and keep on winning more trophies.
Nice one daveob82 you had it right mate – “The highest attendance recorded at Old Trafford was 76962 for an FA Cup semi- final between Wolverhampton Wanderers and Grimsby Town on 25 March 1939.”
I think we should leave the last word on this issue to Tom Roberts as he’s easily the biggest piece of shite to have ever visited the blog and he deserves one final rant for being such a cunt. He’s a bag of bollocks beyond the biggest biggest bag of bollocks imaginable.
C’mon scott allow the old fart tommie to answer!! donot delete his posts..
who gives a f**k about highest attendence why is this even a issue its just stupid talk
Anyway I off now, believe it or not but I am going to Lidl in Ashton-u-Lyne.
I am going for (wait 4 it) a bag of Prawns (it’s true, honest).
I tell you what though you Rags aren’t half easy to wind up.
Whether you like it or not (and I suspect you don’t) we are in for some interesting times.
Have a nice day.
yeah he’s off to collect a bigger paycheck so what… true argie colours
our squad is looking much better without his whinge
lets move on
We really should ignore the bitters, like we have the last 33 seasons. From a footballing perspective, I have never seen such a collection of mercenaries and misfits in my life. If any body is being had, it is the poor gits on the council estate because the players being assembled there are never going to be considered as world class – in playing ability or attitude. They are all players that have attracted media attention for the wrong reasons, have been hyped on the back of that and are being desperately marketed as football players instead of the money grabbers they are.
All these players have been allowed to leave by their respective clubs for one reason or another. Barry had a stinking row with O’niel and some of his team mates last year, because of his disgraceful behaviour regarding the Dippers, which made his departure inevitable this time round – and all he could find was city. Tevez couldn’t get a game at United (to hear him talk) and behaved like the arrogant and immature schoolboy he obviously is, Adebayor promised Arsenal fans that he had been misunderstood and had no intention of leaving. His poor season and flirting with Italian teams has left him staring at the Arsenal exit door and where else for this mercenary but city? Santa Cruz was touted round the Premier League for two seasons, with no serious takers – giving it all the ‘I’m going no where’ when it suited him. Non of the big teams are interested so where better for him than – you’ve guessed it-city? A perfect place for Tiny Tears to end up as well, as he is the bggest two faced peice of shit going! Please buy him city!
As we have already pointed out, add this lot to the mercenaries and thugs already at city and can any one seriously see them competing for anything? It is a team assembled in haste, without thought of character nor balance and it is going to implode the same way it did at Newcastle and Tottenham. You can’t build a team in this manner with the quality (lack of it) of player they are attracting. Every single player they have would be swapped in a hurry by Mark Hughes for his opposite number at Old Trafford. City are not building a team to fear. They are not buying the Kakas or Ronaldos of the footballing world, they are buying nearly men, players that have had decent spells and then gone down hill – Tevez included.
Tom Roberts – Are you at work? Are you honestly sat on a computer at work posting on a Manchester United blog? Is that what you’re doing with your life?
The record attendance for OT is 76,962. Are you suggesting to be a lifelong United fan you should have that figure etched in to your brain? That you are ill-informed if you can’t quote that number off the top of your head? I remember numbers of trophies… something which I imagine is very easy for City fans to do, given how few there are.
Now, have you finished obsessing about your more successful friends from down the road, or are you going to cling on to responding to United fans all day, like the pathetic, bitter, desperate bluenose you are?
Embarrassing.
Eee yar Tommie lad, here’s a quick teaser for you
How many league titles have Manchester City won in the last 34 years?
Hang on a minute I’ve just seen your post Radio Reardon – I think I can take it that I won’t be on your list for a xmas card.
Come on lets be mates.
The Bitters are just like the Dippers….
abuse them and it gets you no-where…… they love the attention…..
See how quickly he left when faced with a FACT… in the words of Manuel….the Spanish “Chef” that we all love to hate…
As for your last one Micky I will have to back to you on that…….er not sure can you help?
Which army are you in Mick?
Jeez
the “bitters” are becoming the “new scousers” spouting irrelevant FACHTS.
Tom
I’m in the RMP – although for PerSec I’m not going to go into any further detail, as I’m sure you can understand
It’s well and truly clutching at straws if you’re boasting that you’ve had a higher attendance than us.
that micky, was a classic
Oh by the way Mr Scott this is a shit blog run by an obviously not very clever person and read and commented on by the same kind (and I am not including myself in that assessment)
I tell you what Micky you have just put me off you for life. I hate all members of the RMP and their silly redcaps
The most hated regiment in the British Army.
Just as an afterthought Mr Scott I hope you will still allow me post on your blog, I hope that you have not took this too personal.
End of the game..lets all leave tommie alone ..so that he can work a bit in the office and earn for his poor little kids..umm m sorry..last heard he is am impotent lil bugger!!
Oh tom your very bitter go and have a cold shower old man.
The closest City fans are going to get to the title is watching the open top bus parade next May when we bring home number 19. Promised Kaka and Eto’o you get Santa Cruz and Tevez and yet you act as if you’re St Paul struck down by the vision of the Messiah on the way to Damascus! Must be all that Middle Eastlands talk you lot really are starting to believe you’re going to the promised land. Hah! Even Moses couldn’t take City there!
I’m actually glad for Tevez. Glad that he has found a team where his bitterness matches the prevailing mood. For months virtually every single thing he has said about Sir Alex has been negative so he should fit in well with his new teammates.
Luckily Tom, I don’t care what you think
come on guys! leave this dickhead alone! if he really was an ex-serviceman what the bloody hell would he be doing here with his devious stupid comments. i bet hes one of them guys u see in an abandoned pub somewhere in south yorkshire bangin on about how he rescued hostages when he was in the SAS! lol nowadays everyones in the SAS arent day?! loll by commenting back u just give the bastard more pleasure cuz then he knows hes annoying u. just dont fuckin answer him. if citeh fans really believe they’re gonna win anything any time soon they are genuinely deluded! its as if one guy with a towel on his head riding on a camwl and all the money in the world can make the best squad in the premiership! yeah bollocks!
Come on United4eva you was promised Benzema and got Owen
Micky, nobody does………….
As for you reddevil your posting just confirmed what i said a few minutes ago about the quality of people (and their intelligence) posting on this site.
Where did you pull that one from Reddevil ” abandoned pub in South Yorkshire”?
God where do you people come from?
Tom Roberts – so you’re at work yes? Sat here writing on not only a Manchester United blog, but a SHIT Manchester United blog, with SHIT people posting on it.
I mean, wow, how fucking brain dead are you? I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than read through a shit City blog full of shit City fans… so what the fuck are you doing here?
Closet red? Actually brain dead? Obsessed? I can’t think of any sensible reason why you would spend your time posting here.
ScotttheRed – I was just making the observation that to include the Champions League in working out Tevez’s minutes but ignore Robinho’s makes the statistics unreliable.
If I said that you earned £1k a week but spent £800 whereas I also earned £1k a week but only spent £400 not including my mortgage which meant that I’m better with my money , that would be an unreliable analysis.
You might well be making a valid point about how much Tevez can expect to play – not least because Robinho won’t play as many games for City this season either with the squad that they now have – but any comparison of last season’s statistics has to be equal to have any validity.
Out of interest do you feel that United’s squad will be stronger without Tevez this coming season?
Let me get this straight Tom.
When I thought you’d fucked off before, you said you popped downstairs to turn Sky Sports News on
That means you’ve got your computer upstairs, which is fine.
However, that mean’s you’ve sat at your computer winding up United fans rather than sit downstairs and watch the unveiling of Carlos Tevez
You must be a proper Citeh fan mate
scott i think we all know why hes here. its all the reasons u said plus the fact that hes a fat son of a bitch, very very bored sitting in his council house, without anything to do. and then he claims to be a service man! lolllll i mean come on! are citeh fans really from this universe?! i dont think they are to be honest!
I think your numbers are slightly off Scott.
By my count, Tevez clocked up 1855 Premiership minutes, and if you include the Community Shield, European Super Cup and the World Club Championship, then he played a total of 3404 minutes.
The maximum possible last season was 6000 minutes (66 matches, 2 of which went to extra time), so Tevez was on the pitch 56.7% of the time. By comparison, Rooney and Berbatov’s numbers are 58.9% and 54.5% respectively, although they both had considerably more playing time than Tevez in the Premiership and the CL.
Why do you people even answer to the idiot? That’s what he wants. Just ignore him and see how quickly he fucks off.
Tom Roberts, have you really got nothing better to do? Why on earth are you spending hours of your time on our blog? I am genuinely gob smacked. Why are you so bothered about high attendances? I presume this means that you have got the highest. If so, congratulations, you must be very proud. I would also like to congratulate you on having more stars than us on your badge and a wider pitch and your ground is closer to the city centre and probably loads of other things too. I personally feel ashamed of our trophy haul compared to your record attendance. Seriously, well done.
By the way, do you realise that the hours you are spending on here doesn’t do your reputation of bitter obsessives any good.
No answer to that boys, I think he has crawled back into his hole now!
Season 08/09:-
Tevez 29 games 5 goals
Santcruz 20 games 4 goals
Fuck me, you blue fuckers have an eye for a player.
haha u see! told u! hes tryin to figure out how to claim more benfit! loll
Is it possible that the comments from the wastelands wasters on this Manchester United website are likely to fade and disappear around January when it all reverts back to type??
Send me the link for any wastelands blogs around January please.
yep.
Question mark – That is exactly my point! It isn’t a fair comparison. Tevez said he was leaving United for more football… but he’s joined a club who can’t possibly offer him as many games as United did.
We reached the final of the Champions League, we reached the final of the League Cup and we reached the semis of the FA Cup. There aren’t many teams in the world who could offer more appearances than United and City certainly can’t. Last season they could offer him more games than they will do this season.
Therefore, as I stated, his reason for leaving United can’t be the football… rather the money.
Is our squad stronger or weaker? Well, Tevez scored 5 league goals last season, whilst Owen scored 8 for shitty Newcastle. Over the two years, Tevez’s average is 8 goals in 32 league games. I mean, he’s hardly setting the World alight. I’d imagine Carrick and Fletcher alone could make up the extra five league goals.
Tevez works hard and we all wanted him to stay… but his comments about the club and about the manager and about the hurt he’s felt etc. soured the relationship long before he signed for City. On May 1st I posted on RoM that it was time for him to go. We won’t have a whiney Argie who thinks he’s better than he actually is in the team anymore… instead we’ll have a player who DESPERATE to do well. I’m happy with that but only time will tell.
Fcuck me, city fans are deluded treating tevez like the second coming.
I knew it!!!
Tevez’s head is cut!!!
Tevez went for the money.
Simples.
Judas took thirty pieces of silver.
Simples.
now pretend your injured and crocodile tear every time so you can sit on your ARSE and get the money.
Tevez was never ours to be a Judas.
He is GONE. Let’s wish him well.
So the big question is now do you think Tevez signed knowing City would make a move for Adebayour?
Oh wait this was about not starting, getting more playing time and ‘respect’.
He’ll fit in perfectly with the other misfits at city
Tevez press conference delayed by hour and half he dropped his wallet on the way in.
Twatez is using the “more games” and ” disrespected” excuses because he is a moral coward who doesnt have the balls to admit he’s a greedy little mercenary. His claim to love the fans at O.T is a sad attempt to cover his disloyalty. He started a row and now blames the other side for causing it. Its a ploy normally used by 5 yr olds to cover their guilt. It shows a lack of maturity and commonsense at a general level and a seriously low IQ if he believes what he is saying himself. the fact his management team tell him what to do and when to do it, is further evidence if required of a man being used as a tool for someone elses aims who goes where the money is like a good boy. It is sad because like SAF said, he’s a great trier, but ultimately not worth the money or the effort to keep.So to all those shitty fans who think they got the dogs bollocks, dream on, and to all the faithfull REDS, move on and look forward to a new season without a poisonous insidious dwarf who hasnt got the good sense or grace to shut the fuck up.imho.
CHAMPIONS!
@philco
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
That cunt tevez now saying SAF did’nt fone or txt em, calling are manager a lair lets give em hell in setember.
Ah fuck him, we have park to run round like a headless chicken.
- I dont think Tevez will be happy an Man City, as he will be the last man to be picked by Mark Hughes, from all their great forwards. (santa cruz,adebayor,bellamy).
- he has very good tedchnique,shot…but the problem is; he is the slowest player in the EPL !! He used to be fast,back in Boca days.
Hmmm.. with Adebayor signing as well, how many starts will Tevez get ? Not many more than he did at Man U and possibly less I reckon. The extra £60K should hopefully provide the consolation.
He He He.
Afromanc
True that.
THE comparison wt Robinho does not drive the point home. Please do compare him with Berbatov with respect to minutes played-starting from the date thatBerbatov join Man u.I would like to see that analysis please
——————–Adebayor ——– Santa Cruz ——————–
Robinho ——————— Tevez —————- Wright-Phillips
———————————- Barry ———————————-
Bridge —————Terry ———— Dunne ———– Richards
——————————— Given ———————————-
Even with that lineup surely he isn’t going to play every game, unless the sacrifice defenders.
After all even that Lineup he has attacking Rivals of
Caicedo
Benjani
Bellamy
Bojinov
All who could fill one of those front 5 positions well. Not to mention Ched Evans
And then you have the likes of
Elano
Petrov
Who could play in an Attacking Midfield/Forward role
And no doubt they will want to actually play more than one actual Midfielder which means the likes of
de Jong
Kompany
Ireland
Johnson
Would take one of the front places away.
I have to say City and Real are a joke with their transfers, its like they are after having every forward in the world split between them despite only being able to play a small number of them. And its not even as if they are both signing players who don’t have egos, if you were signing players like Solskjaer then you could get away with it but are some of these players going to be happy sitting on the bench and even being dropped from the squad
tom roberts Said,Incidentally now someone has mentioned the 84000 at City vs Stoke in 1934 do any of you knowledgable smartasses know the biggest gate ever at the Swamp (ie Old Trafford).
We get 75.000 every home game, son. You only fill your ground when United come for our 3 points. Now show some respect.
argie cunt
Scott what a load of old bollox 37.6 or 41.2 what the fuck who gives a shit! We lost the best player in the world last year and it wasn’t the shark bitten argie cunt…PARK runs around just as much as tevez and has a similar goals per game ratio… The difference is Park’s cost 5 mil and tevez 32? Tevez is not and will never be a world class footballer and i’d rather see a kid get a chance than buy an average foreigner who can’t learn English in 3 years…speaking of which what the fuck is up with Valencia!!!!!
RE: Tom Roberts
First of all you are talking to the champions. When you get to where we are, then please allow yourself the opportunity to come on here and ridicule us United fans who have, are and forever will stand by our manager. By the way how many managers have you had in the last 24 years? We have only had one. He is more important than a Roanldo or a Tevez so go figure and hide behind Sparky the Great, or whatever you call him.
Secondly you are talking to the team who has won the Premiership on it’s own by eleven times more than your 0 times – to put it as bluntly as is possible.
Oh by the way when do the anti-Sparky chants begin, you know the ones when you are sick of him not being as good as us, and then due to your increase in intelligence over ours, calling for his head and then wanting someone else in his place?
Thirdly intelligence displayed by United fans is something you cannot understand. We are all one behind one mans vision – SAF – and if you don’t like that then we do not ask you to, because the trophies are in our cabinet and we look forward to your challenge. At the end of the day, where are you exactly, on some Arabs fantasy board game? Good luck to you. We shall as they say not be moved and will gladly stand by our manager who took on Chelsea’s billions and put them in their place, and will gladly take you and Madrid and do equally the same.
Apparently we have had a very bad summer. You and Madrid have outspent us and apparently outbid us. Congratulations. It’s the trophies that count – and for sure we have more than you, because we trust in the one man that you have no equal of.
Keep on deleting those comments Scott. I’ve deleted somewhere in the region of 100 abusive comments today. The word Munich was used in about 90% of them. What a fine bunch of fans Tevez will be playing for. They are made for each other.
well i thought it was only citeh fans who were bitter but after reading the above article and the posts that followed it seems to me that there is red mist appearing from man u fans. tevez has gone, was he worth it? utd thought so they offered the money. utd’s loss looks like being citys gain and the bulk of you utd fans would quietly admit it. i can see some fans getting alot of stick this season!!!
I recon he will do well for shity., but to be honest lads. Because he gave maximum effort anytime he was infront of goal and should of scored and didnt we always forgave him because of his effort!
His job is to fucking score!!! Or set up goals!
Did he do that last season? For me No
Did he have Chances?? Yes.
Also i find him to simular to Rooney! Cant have 2 of the same upfront in my opinion. I like chalk and cheese, A ROoney and Berbatov is a better combination for me!
Last season people judged Berbatov but how dificult is it for a striker whose team formation and tactics are to give the ball to ronaldo and let him shoot! Didnt really stand much chance did he??
Next season i feel we will have a differnt more normal 4-4-2 approach with our team set up to creat chances for the front 2 and everyone else!
I have trust in Fergie
I dont give a fuck about Tevez. He is dead to me. He plays for citeh. pathetic bunch that cant win shit. You could throw 100 strikers at them and a billion more and they still wont be “Great” they still wont be “United”.
Who cares about them.
Eto o knows the score…cuz he is one calculating prick. Tevez has fucked his career, TO BAD, SO SAD!
Can someone please tell me what is in the trophy room at Manchester City?
Apart from the mousetrap.
Good riddance I say. There is an inflated ego in that little argie frame of his and we dont need that.
If being dropped to the bench was his real beef at OT then it’ll be amusing to see how he reacts when he’s sidelined after a couple of inevitable shite performances to be replaced by santa cruz or adebayor or bellamy or caceido or whichever other ‘where-are-they-now-trivia-answer’ players who scored in the preceding week.
A couple years max till his daughter’s preschooling is done and its off to the mediterranean to ‘earn the respect of passionate fans and staff who really want him’.
This article (without getting into some daft slanging match) is just a little sad… ok, completely pathetic. Although you probably had a point hidden in there somewhere, i reckon there’s a good chance you’ll read this back and wish you’d never bothered working all that boring shit out. Adding together the last 20 mins here, last 20 mins there… You obviously don’t get it.
As for you reds that think – Carlos (‘Fergie sign him up’) Tevez – is shit. Well i’m glad we could help you out and take him off your hands. You lot are the typical perception of a red mentality. We all know you’re gutted, but that’s football. You’ll get over it. Same way Everton did when you came in with your bags of money for Rooney, and Chelsea for our own SWP.
And yep, we haven’t won anything for 33yrs – well spotted… but our bags of money have only just arrived. And whether you wanna believe it or not, the chances of you having some real competition with your neighbours, are getting closer by the day.
We will buy our way in, like every other f**ker. And for those of you out there that like to pretend that thats not the truth… Top Ten British Transfers… 4 belong to Utd, 4 belong to Chelsea, 2 belong to Liverpool and as of last year – 1 to little old City… Coincidence? Nope… Top spots require MONEY!
(And yes, i know this adds to 11, but 2 were the same price.)
Carlito was quoted saying “The ambition is to help Manchester City recover the status they once had as one of the best clubs in Europe and to try to win trophies and titles.”
The bad news for Tevez is Shitty where never one of the best clubs in Europe and will never be. You are just another mercenary with $$$$$$ in your eyes. You were offered a contract from OT and refused it for the simple reason you knew Shitty would offer you more. I’ve lost all the respect I had for you and not because you joined Shitty but for trying to make SAF look like a liar.
I have a feeling one day you’ll regret your decisions and if and when that time comes, if you really have a pinch of respect for the Red fans as you claim, you’ll be honest and admit it publicly.
I thank you Carlos for your efforts on the pitch, but that’s where I’ll stop.
BTW – Shitty will never reach the size and grandeur of United. An arab sheik does not determine the size and history of a club.
Blueboy – the point isn’t hidden, it is pretty bloody obvious.
I’ll simplify it for you
1. Tevez said he was leaving Manchester United to play more football, not for the extra £240-320k extra a month City will pay him.
2. As the stats show, it is pretty much impossible for Tevez to get more games for City than he got for United.
3. He’s a lying, greedy twat who is more concerned about money than time on the pitch.
An obvious point which isn’t difficult to understand. I reckon there’s a good chance you’ll wish you never bothered posting and showing yourself up as a bit simple… ok, completely moronic.
Tom Roberts – pissing myself laughing at your comments! Bet you are one of the fancy dress nutcases who ariives at Wastelands trying to be an Arab, with teatowel on your head, and tied up with a piece of string lol. I hear that the Sheiks have bought up the fields surrounding Wastelands, so that you Man Pity fans can all park your camels! Wouldn’t think you would need too though when your Owners have so many oil wells to provide you with petrol for free if you purchase a season ticket. The Arabs tried to buy Man UNited football club before you lot, but the Glazers said ‘ No deal, we know where the real OIL producing well is – GOLD TRAFFORD! Viva Man Utd – the Reds of Manchester never die!
Look, it’s a boring article, that means nothing.
If your mind numbingly dull stats are actually accurate, you can only have arrived there by including pointless 20 minutes appearances, (like against Barca, where you were given a lesson & fitness drill, for 80 mins) which on a regular basis, is bound to lower a players confidence, especially when watching an overpriced pile of shite like 9 goal Berba, given chance after chance after chance.
Just face it, you wish he’d have stayed, and now he’s gone… maybe it’s the money, maybe it’s fergies breath, or maybe he knows something you dont.
Either way, your article is not very good… ok, completely shit.
While i’m on a roll, calling yourself world champs, after a defeat in the CL Final, in that manner, where lets be honest, you just couldn’t compete, even with the show pony (who to be fair is worth 15 points a season)… Laughable. Imagine winning a competition with your 2nd/3rd string team, and then boasting about it. Nearly as daft as your article. Ta Tar.
yeah Mr. Roberts now u can paste Tevez’s head on all your cardboard cut-outs of KaKa . Wonder will citeh manage to fill the council house this season before United arrive for your annual cup final . Money does’nt buy class .
That extra cash should be enough to get a nice comfy silk seat cover to keep his ass from getting numb sitting on the bench!!!
When will shitty realise that the towel wearer will have a new toy soon and that you cannot pay wages that are about 10 times your income. prediction 7th lose twice to Utd out in second round of both cups and 34 will tick round nicely!!!
tevez wasn’t treated well by united management. They had an option to buy him and did not offer him except the promise that it would be settled at the end of the season. For a period of time they baulked at the evaluation they agreed on. They tried to do everything to reduce his value. He rarely featured has a starter in important games. I loved to watch tevez play and always he gave united something that it often lacked with berbatov. commitment and passion. this was the common view of united fans. however the management werent up front with him. he now has transferred to city and we united fans if this forum is anything to go by have turned on him. why? because he questions united management sincerety with him. I think the rage should be directed to management instead of letting them off the hook. i tend to think that united like alot of other clubs have financial problems and cant compete against the like s of city. we shoudnt slader players. after all united were the city’s in the last decade.
Blue boy – you numptee, you feckin wished you were ever in a CL final, never mind win it, or not win it eh? Come back when you win something and crow. Trouble with you fans being INFLATED, one tiny prick of your blue balloon rising, and all the hot air is lost in space lol! You don’t see Man United fans flocking to your blogs, what’s the matter eh, things aren’t interesting enough for you. All the Man Pity MIGRANT pidgeons coming to roost on Man United forums – well can’t blame you, we know you have suffered years of boredom over at Wastelands. Don’t forget to run and by your Tevez shirt now will you. Or maybe your owners will give them away, so you can all wear them along with your Teatowels and bits of string around your heads, you pretend Arabs. By the way, Abu Dhabi are looking for migrants I believe, as they are all coming over here!
BlueBoy
yeah we lost 1 game. We won the league and knocked that same team out the year before when in case you’ve forgotten we were champions of both Europe and England. We are still champions of England, we WILL be playing European football next season and are one of the biggest brands in the world. When Hughes gets fired at the end of the season for a disappointing 6th place finish you will see how your team is run.
Numptee?… LOL?……….. WTF – are you 10?
Seriously, not even taking the piss, i wouldn’t want to be in the the CL if we were schooled and completely over run, by a team missing 4 of their starting 11, and on TV… god knows how many millions watching? Bet that did your ‘Brand’ the world of good. Reckon Benzema was watching?
World Champs my ass… World Chumps maybe.
And this rag blog appears on our news feed page… thats why we end up here. If you want it to stop appearing, then stop writing about our players.
Blueboy – It’s really rather fortunate that you wouldn’t want to see your team in the CL final isn’t it… I’m sure you don’t want to be in the top four either, which again is very convenient for a City fan. Aim low, you might just reach your target then.
Yeh… nice one Scott. That’s a good un.
Almost as funny as your original article.
Funny? It’s fucking hilarious. At United Tevez warmed the bench because he was behind Rooney and Ronaldo in pecking order… at City it will be Adebayor and Bellamy in the team ahead of him.
10 goals in 27 for Adebayor
8 goals in 18 for Bellamy
5 goals in 29 for Tevez
Fucking hilarious.
i am so looking forward to seeing how shit man city are gona be next season..who have they signed thats top top quality!!!!santa cruz wouldnt get in the top 4 teams,adebayor was shite last season hardly scored a goal,barry is a money grabbin toilet(like rest of city team)who lets face it when hargreaves is back then he will be an england sub,and scar face couldnt get on are team last year..oh and no doubt they will all catch the pig flu wen richards is back…haha that would be a laugh(as long as no1 died of course)terry will never go to that shit and hughes will get the sack soon then at the end of the season all them top top players will be complaining cause they aint in the champ league(thats wat greed does to ya)in fergie we trust(i hope)
All I can see is United fans giving (and I quote some of your fans) ‘liddle ol’ citeh’ stick for buying players and spending a lot of money.
Isn’t that what you guys have done for years on end?
Lets look at it.
Rio £30m.
Rooney £20m + add-ons totalling £30m
Juan Sebastien Veron £28.1m (had to remind you of him!)
Nani/Anderson combined £35m rising to £55m.
Carrick £18m
Hahahagreaves £18m
Berbatov £32m (we stung ya there)
Hmmmmm only 2 players there I reckon would get into City’s team, Ferdinand and Rooney.
I think you lot are running scared. 70,000 singing sign him up then he leaves and all of a sudden he was shit, not good enough for United. Hypocrites of the highest order.
At least we robbed you for Carrick and Berbatov!
Wanna take Bent off our hands? £40m to you or City!
Going to be great to see one of you top 4 dumped out by the biggest underperformers in English Football history!
Never mind, lads, at least you’ve got Owen to fill the gap. ^_^
And you know he’s on £150k because sky sports told you so? That’s all just guesswork anyway.
The point you make with this post is a flawed one from the start, as Carlos there is a difference in issues between ‘playing a lot of games’ and ‘sitting on the bench too often’. Berbatov did nothing to deserve his place in the first team, except the fact that you payed so much money for a cancerstick loving couch potato you hved to justify it somehow.
Add to that the fact that Tevez was never told why he wasn’t starting games or told about his role in the team and you can see why he felt like being ‘kicked out’. Way to treat a guy who, in the end, in my view won you the league with his efforts at Wigan et al.
Tevez will be appreciated by all this time – fans, other players, management.. and that’s the footballing reason. I wouldn’t want to work in an organisation where my boss did not rate me at all either.
What a Shame for a man (Tevez) claiming he is above the earth planet, and now wants to conquer the mars when his on shit could not clean, He is so greedy made forget his 2 years what he did at Man Utd and all what he earn from the club, manager and the fans, now he talks rubbish, he is a fucking liar, what guts he has to insult and accuse a man who has change the history of football the man who has been respected by all the people and a man who achieved everything in football world.
Tevez thinks by accuse and insult Fergie he will be excuse !!! no where, he is digging his own grave, waiting to be burrried sooooooooooooooooooooooon.
I have to agree with ‘Mickey Said’ … enough with the Tevez stuff Scott … let’s get back on track with regard to the match on Saturday first and then the full pre-season, more signings (please!), Charity Shield and the PL …
Who would’nt move jobs if they were going to be paid twice what they were worth, the only signing we have made that I can say I am 100% happy about is Barry, I did’nt want Santa Cruz and am taking a rag friends word (who has been a season ticket holder for years) on Tevez. I reckon Adebayor will be ok for us and don’t really want to comment on Taylor. I have noticed on these forums everyone just reverts to childish name-calling, I find it pathetic that adults cannot talk about a game witnout throwing insults.
Man your an arse!
1,Stop being so bitter,He joined City over Utd, blue instead of red.
He moved and got a wage increase not because of wage increase, this happens in 90% of transfers. Most of utd players purchased have had wage inceases apart from Owen who was free! Grabbed what he could.
2,Goals scored these numbers are low because he played in midfield, plus only used as sub when team had either locked up shop or chasing a loss.
3,He is talking about not playing when his team play not games played or mins on pitch, he was talking about not being picked or wanted!
4,Get over it, maybe shrek next season!
Okay time to clear some stuff up;
1. Scott the ‘Red’ – Your Forum isn’t perfect. Not only is the article lacking in crucial reason, as your are basing it purely on statistics that are not do not tell the full picture. You have omitted (at your own admission) certain statistics, that to be honest suggests you are hiding something from us. If the statistics are available then all should be considered. Also by purely resting your whole article on statistics you have completely ignored extraneous variables (e.g. injuries, suspension etc, If you are going to use statistics to convince people please you all available). May I also point out that you are completely speculating that Tevez will not play much next season, and it appears in the absence of statistics that are not your own you resort to anedotes similar to that of some of your less intelligence posters, which I find incredibly dissapointing, considering you had actually created a well structured statistical point, however I left saddened by your resorting to childish insults such as “wasteland”. If you want to gain respect you mustn’t rise to the crap people will give you.
2. All United Fans – Now lets just clarify, if you are going to completely criticise Tevez for not scoring enough last season, then take a long hard look at yourself and consider what Owen did last season? Nobody on this Forum has even considered what Tevez did as an 18-20 year old in Argentina and Brazil, yet all of a sudden Owens disastrous spell at Newcastle is almost long forgotten and all that seems to be remembered is his hey day at Liverpool and Madrid. So if we are all to have a debate about Tevez lets talk about his Career and not just one season.
3. Why all the bitterness? – Basically footballs a hard game at the top, no matter who you are. The would be no shame in being sad at Ronaldo leaving, he was clearly a good player, we were all sad to see people like Paul Lake retire because of injury and Marc Viven Foe, and others such as Anelka who didn’t really care. But there was no “He didn’t score enough” etc….Your fans were clearly asking to “sign him up”, he was a good player and I’m sure you would have been happy if he stayed. The point is that this bitterness if pointless, you’ve signed some players of your own, can’t you be excited about them, rather than spending the sunny summer peering into the neighbours garden to see what new toys they have.
4. UNITED 24/7 Fck the Wife – Not only is user name completely and utterly unbelieveable, and I’m afraid that is something that transpires into your post. First of all in a practical sense you wish all our players get swine flu, however I would happily wager that you whinge until the cows come if we got special dispensation because of it. Secondly how can you wish something bad upon somebody and then say “as long as nobody dies!”, if your going to go back on yourself, do you not think that you would have been better off just writing something of actual value, rather than combing your bravado and ego.
5. Micky – I know plenty of Army lads, and used to be in myself. I know the stuff you guys have to go through and have been through it myself. I know, and you know there’s no need to rise to it, and the point it wanders off football, that’s when the world ‘stop’ comes into play. We all know its about the game, and to those of you that believe otherwise, is no fan of mine, regardless of club.
6. Finally – The rivalry we have between our clubs is a healthy one, and trust me its one I revel in, and football wouldn’t be the same without it, and I believe its just about to get a LOT more interesting, but lets not attempt to make it a vicious one. Personally I am looking forward to Tevez returning to OT!
Hope this all made sense, but I felt the need to let you know how I feel, as a City fan, which I am proud and will stay proud to be. I recommend that you all think about doing the same.
King of Kippax – I don’t include the appearances for the UEFA Cup because City aren’t in Europe next season. That’s not being secretive or deceptive, but logical. What difference does it make how many hours of football City had in the UEFA Cup last season when they didn’t qualify for the competition this season?
He played in 51 games for United last season. City would have to reach the finals of both the League and FA Cup and Tevez would have to play in every single game for him to even equal the amount of appearances from last season.
I don’t fully believe that the issue for Tevez was the notion that he didn’t ‘appear’ in every game. It was the notion that he didn’t start a majority of games. This transpires into his goal ratio, I believe that is a player or Anelka’s calibre would struggle to meet the goal ratio he achieved this season if he played a similar.
I also have a serious issue with one sentence of your post;
“Given that Manchester City haven’t reached a cup final since 1981, chances of Tevez playing in 51 games for City this season are slim to none”
Now credit to you for finding a range of statistics. However one of the major sources of potential indicators of actions teams and performance throughout a season are the bookmakers. As these are companies that survive on the true and accurate interpretation of statistics. The bookmakers know when they are likely to lose money and set their rates to this effect. You will notice that the current betting on City to win a domestic trophy this season are 9-1, FA Cup (Man United only 4-1) and 9-1 for the Carling Cup (Man United only 6-1). Odds from Paddypower.com (check if you wish).
Now these companies haven’t become the mass institutions that they are for being wrong have they? So to be honest your ‘claim’ that my sides chances of reaching a major cup final being ‘slim to nothing’ is (professionally) very wide of the mark, and are not massively far from those of United. I believe in the progression that City are planning to make this season, and in this case past history isn’t really applicable, as we have not been in this situation before as a club.
Also looking at the facts it is a well known trend that the correlation between clubs finishing in the top and the amount of domestic trophies they win is very high. Now you also cannot argue that the general consensus is that we have a very high chance of finishing in the ‘top 4′, therefore also suggesting we have a chance of winning a domestic trophey, and would breaking a winning duck be important to Tevez? I believe so as you saw his passion when he kept West Ham up
Other betting sites affirm this notion as well
William Hill;
> FA Cup (12-1) 5th Highest from Premier League
> Carling Cup (9-1) 5th Highest from Prem
Betfred;
> FA Cup 12-1
> Carling Cup 9-1
Contenders? I think so. Clearly Tevez does as well.
So you value Tevez’s opinion? He loves United fans and will always have us in his heart. That’s a man whose opinion you care less about?
Here’s some goal ratios for you, looking at minutes played and goals scored:
Nevland – 233, 4 goals.
Arshavin – 857, 6 goals.
Saha – 971, 4 goals.
Beattie – 1119, 6 goals.
Bednar – 1235, 6 goals.
Drogba – 1276, 5 goals.
Mido – 1350, 6 goals.
Pavlyuchenko – 1352, 5 goals.
Jo – 1435, 6 goals.
Kalou – 1477, 6 goals.
Torres – 1515, 13 goals.
Carew – 1541, 10 goals.
McCarthy – 1378, 9 goals.
Martins – 1590, 7 goals.
Bendtner – 1661, 8 goals.
Benayoun – 1643, 7 goals.
Tevez – 1667 mins, 5 goals.
Roberts – 1720, 7 goals.
Owen – 1802 mins, 8 goals.
Defoe – 1806 mins, 10 goals.
Van Persie – 1943, 9 goals.
Interesting to see just how many shit players have a better goals to minutes ratio than the player you’ve just spent £25m on isn’t it.
“Interesting to see just how many shit players have a better goals to minutes ratio than the player you’ve just spent £25m on isn’t it”
How come then SAF has admitted trying to get in touch with Tevez, and has been saying that he wanted him to stay? I assuming he won’t be shit, if he had stayed with you.
Now I have a MAJOR MAJOR issue with what is clearly a FALSE allegation. Half of those scores you put above are wrong.
Please refer to this link
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
(the Official Premier League page, surely they aren’t wrong)
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And you will see you claim is wrong for the Premier league for the Following strikers (actual score in brackets)
> Beattie 6 (7)
> Torres 13 (14)
> Carew 10 (11)
> McCarthy 9 (10)
> Martins 7 (8)
> Bendtner 8 (9)
> Benneyoun 7 (8)
> Van Persie 9 (11)
Now either state what statistics your ACTUALLY using, or don’t fabricate statistics. I don’t know whether to believe you, somebody who’s reputation so far on this topic doesn’t bode well, or ACTIM (the official statistics provider to the Premier League)….No wait I’m gonna go with ACTIM.
I gladly await your response
Actually I do not gladly await your response. It is become clear that if I want to have a good football discussion there is no need for me to stay here. If you are going to get basic statistics wrong then, its going to leave me arguing the toss against fabrication, not something I’m prepared to do.
I will not be fighting my own shadow.
Thank you for your time on this forum. I only wish that it had been more honest and productive.
Oh no! Please tell me that Vidic doesn’t have an escape clause in his contract.
City have made a written enquiry and Vidic hasn’t travelled to the Far East with the rest of the squad today. United are refusing to say why. What gives?
You played 66 games last season.
We played 56 games last season.
Tevez was available for 66 games last season.
Robinho was available for 49 games last season (he joined 7 games into the season)
Tevez started 32 games out of 66 games for you last season.
Robinho started 40 out of 49 games games for us last season.
Tevez was an unused sub many times for you last season.
Robinho was never an unsused sub for us and was only a sub ONCE.
You cannot take away our european games and still include yours to prove your “theory”, it’s ridiculous.
Face the facts rags, he is with us, you are hurt and no amount of covering that hurt with pathetic and incorrect “stats” that prove nothing will change that.
See you September 20th!
FERGIE SIGN HIM UP, FERGIE FERGIE SIGN HIM UP.
Micky Said,July 14th, 2009 @13:18 @Tom Roberts
All this talk, what are your sources?
Fergie has refused to be bent over the barrel and pay way over the odds for players, because teams with rich sugar daddy’s like Citeh and Real Madrid are spunking endless money
never paid over the odds, lets see shall we, veron, rio, berv and many many more. and how much have you spent in the last 10-15 years. so so bitter.
Eat this fact Tom (Bitter) Roberts; Not for a 1 off game but the AVERAGE ATTENDANCE for a full season.
The highest average attendance at Old Trafford over a league season was 75,826, set in the 2006-07 season.
Bred Red