It has been reported that Michael Carrick hasn’t trained for the past few days due to illness, meaning United could be playing Sunderland with a squad down to the bare bones, again.
Carrick has been our most important player this season so his absence could be costly. Tom Cleverley has barely played this season because of injury but after a few substitute appearances recently may get called back in to the starting XI. Anderson and Darren Fletcher are obviously unavailable, which would mean we had a choice of Giggs, Scholes and even Park to play in the centre of the park.
However, Carrick was seen arriving and leaving Carrington yesterday, so maybe there is some hope for him.
With Nemanja Vidic, Chris Smalling and Jonny Evans injured, we are going to be struggling to put a back four together. Rio Ferdinand was substituted off with injury last weekend against Swansea, which could make the situation even worse. The best case scenario would be Rafael, Jones, Rio and Evra as our back four.
Up front, Danny Welbeck is still carrying the injury from the City game, meaning Rooney is likely to start up front with Chicharito.
This obviously isn’t the ideal preparation to the biggest game of the season. If you look at the injury table Manchester United are at the top with 10 injuries whilst Manchester City are at the bottom with 0. This has been the case all season.
Roll on tomorrow…
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1179990-manchester-united-can-the-class-of-2012-emulate-fergies-kids
This is not good. Let’s hope he can play, for he is integral to the solidity required when going for a big win. Come on Michael Carrick!
Feeling pretty sick myself.
I know we often say which would be Fergie’s greatest triumph. Well if we win the league tomorrow with so many players missing, then I’d say this is it.
If those bastards win tomorrow then the huge amount of mitigating factors will still taste like ash in my mouth, the only consolation I will feel will be when they are similarly afflicted by the devastating injuries we have endured this season which have really contributed to our downfall and we triumpg because of it. Come what may tomorrow, potentially being joint top on points with a team as young and with as many promising players as ours is still an exciting prospect. Rafel to score tomorrow!
Fuck city, well never die.
That’s the way it goes,it’s not like it’s a game we must win or it would be annoying.
As for the comparison between us and City, like Scott said, the current injury scoreline is 10-0 in our favour.
The overall scoreline for 11-12 is 82-36 in our favor. We’ve had more than double the amount of injuries.
Roll on next season!!
@Parryheid
Of course its a game we must win, firstly we are Manchester United and we want to win every game, even mind games. Secondly and most importantly you never know what can happen in football, Shitty dropping points might be a 1000/1 but we still have that 1 chance.
How would you feel if we lost tomorrow and Shitty drew!!!
Fucking oath we need to win.
Robbo
Fucks sake man stop trying to nullify my hex.
Either we have been awfully unlucky in terms of injury, or there is something wrong with the medical team or our training methods. Somehow I feel it is a bit of everything, we have had too many players out for extended periods to be just bad luck
If United win the league tomorrow, Fergie should be made the PM!
Fergie isn’t PM?
It’s simple to explain the difference between United’s and Cities injuries.Cities players are Superhuman.United’s players are the ones that get sand kicked in their faces.
Well, then let’s take the black cats peanut butter on Sunday.
Afternoon gents. Well this news is just typical of this season. Sunderland away was going to be difficult enough but we’re going to have to be on our toes without much pace in the middle.
Since it is the last game I’d say fuck it and play Cleverly from the start and if he tires then bring one of Giggs or Park on. If Rio is injured as well who are we going to play as centre halves?
And to think in the first people Fergie thanked in his speech last week were the medical staff!
“It won’t be easy, but if we score first then maybe the City fans in the stadium will start to be nervous,” Evra said. “When you are nervous then you can rush things and you don’t do things as well as you’d like. That’s why we have to make sure we beat Sunderland. I don’t think City against Queens Park Rangers is an easy game. So, at the end of the day, we have to believe.”
“If we don’t win the league it will hurt a lot of people, but the first person it will hurt will be the manager. But we always bounce back. I trust everyone working for this club. I would never turn my back to Manchester United. If we don’t win, all of the players – including myself – will say that we have to do much better if we want to win the league again.”
“So we will try and rebuild something that’s stronger and try and win every competition next season. That’s the United way: every year we start the season wanting to win every trophy. We need to make sure that next year we give everything to do that.”
Marq … “Either we have been awfully unlucky in terms of injury, or there is something wrong with the medical team or our training methods.” We have been unlucky. The two injuries that hurt us the most this season were those to Fletcher and Vidic. Not a lot anyone could have done about them.
We have been up against a mob with virtually unlimited funds at their disposal (and not at all shy about using them), who could choose to gazump us on any player deal any time they like. We have had one of the worst runs of injuries of any PL in at least the last 10 years, with many players suffering, including key players out for the majority of the season. And, according to the Telegraph’s in-depth study, we have definitely had by far the worst of this season’s dodgy referee calls. Despite it all, there is every chance that we will lose the PL by the slimmest margin in its history (goal difference) or, at worst, 3 points. FFS, we may yet win it!
Now is not the time to start slashing one’s wrists. Now is not the time to slag off the manager or the squad or individual players. Now is not the time to slag off each other, either.
No. Now is the time to stand up and be counted as Manchester United fans.
NRD – Perhaps Fergie was ensuring that we realise that the Medical staff did a great job despite the record number of injuries sustained. As he mentioned them first, it seems that he wanted to lay that rumour of incompetence to rest.
I’m just guessing.
parry – Ha. Trying to nullify your hex. Those usually work for you. As Costas said on previous thread nobody is thinking of our trip to Sunderland. Well I HAVE been and it isnt going to be fucking easy. All the media are talking about QPR getting a point and United win being conclusive. We need to turn up at the Stadium of Light. Not an easy game especially in view of the injuries.
Gonna watch Dortmund v Munich tonight to see what Kagawa is like.
My Team for tomorrow:
De Gea
Rafa Jones Rio Evra
Valencia Scholes Giggs Cleverley Young
Rooney
(Wayne is playing crap deeper down this year, perhaps a traditional striker role with Chicha,Nani, Berba, Park on the bench to have options).
Or we could go for the more predictable;
De Gea,Rafa,Jones,Rio,Evra,Valencia,Scholes,Clevs, Young,Rooney, Chico.
I believe this would leave us vulnerable in the middle and the forward line is not clicking this year apart from the Ajax game, Rooney-Chico look miles apart from the duo of 2010-11.
Sunderland should not be underestimated, they like Everton are capable of grabbing a result from our butter fingers.
Just had my first round of texts from my blue mates. A bit jealous really, they’ve all booked Monday off work for a big party session on Sunday! Just got back from the Trafford Centre and JJB had a city shirt printed with Champions 12 on it! I was going bonkers until I saw a United Champions 20 shirt next to it!!
Stateside – Great post pal.
The “Goal Differential” is Kwazy
King Eric … cheers mate. I just can’t bear the thought of all the vitriol and bile that will be unleashed, on our own club/manager/players, by our own fans, should we lose to Shitty. We all have criticisms we can make, of the way things have gone this season. But nothing changes the fact that the manager and the lads have been up against it. Everyone will be bitterly disappointed, but in the end, it’s our job to get behind the club. Offer our support — and do so blindly, if need be.
But hey, at least some of the glory-hunters might get the shits and fuck off!
A trip down memory lane.
Man United vs Man United (1/3) 6 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7IVsmlfZvI&feature=player_embedded#!
(can also watch 2 and 3)
Anyway, night reds, will check back in tomorrow. Cheers lads!
King Eric
Alright pal. How was your night in. Kagawa is quality. I hope he doesn’t disappoint you tonight. Michael Owen anyone? He said earlier in the season he hoped he had some big goals left in him!!
Stateside
Always support mate, always. The league is long gone in my opinion, but won’t stop me supporting the boys and the staff!! Looking forward to a year in the singing section next year. Hope it comes off!
I dreamed I was a morning-glory hunter and awoke to find the hard truth.
I don’t care how Kagawa plays tonight. United must sign this lad. Van Bommel leaving Milan? Would anyone take him? Just saying now.
I dream of Jeanie!
When we lose we get 600 posts from folk who never turn up otherwise
When we win 5-0, we have far less than that…
We assume lack of success would get rid of the glory hunters.
Don’t know how to reconcile.
Anyway top post from stateside aussie.
Don’t give a fuck, so long as the boys fight hard tomorrow, I’ll cheer them off. Fuck it, I’Ll cheer them off anyway as long as they’re wearing United shirts. Well tried lads, better luck next year! BELIEVE.
King Eric
It does work for me I have a faultless record,every week I pick my eight homes and say that’s a stick on home win and it never fails.I always get fucked with my stick on home wins.So there.
Willie
I see where your coming from with van bomel but think it would be a few years too late. Might be a good foil for tunni in terms of his development though?? I would prefer a younger prospect in the same mould.
Stateside – would be nice if the hanger on glory boys fucked off. I know where they’d be welcome!!!
United need the Football equivalent of Wigan Warriors Sam Tomkins. The boy is class!!
Mikey – Not saying I’d want him. Just throwing his name into the mix! Van Bommel in the premiership would be an interesting watch…..
I dream of Danny with the dark black hair,
Floating like a vapor on the summer air.
I see his qualities like days gone by,
Sighing around my heart o’er the fond hopes that die.
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.
And come ye back when summer’s in the meadow
and when Manchester is hushed and white with snow.
Coz we’ll be there in sunshine or in shadow;
Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, I love you so.
Well now we have NO CHANCE of winning the league.
@ WRN – Hello mate. Van Bommel is a good shout, for a short term solution, especially if Fletcher doesn’t make it next season.
For me Kagawa is the real deal. I think we’ll have the transfer done before the Euros.
Hows Bart these days?
Simpsonly cowabungabulousl
Made of Manchester ?
Forged in Industry ?
Striving for Glory ?
What’s wrong with a simple “Worn by Footballers” & “Buy It Now £45 “. ?
NRD – Short term is spot on. Fergie admitted we can’t go toe to toe with city. We have to explore every option that we can. Van Bommel wouldn’t be anywhere near my first choice. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t do a job for United, though.
It would be a real van bommel shell if we got Mark.
Evening reds around the world,
24 hours and 5 minutes to kick off…
by the way,
my team,
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__________De Gea_________
Rafael________Jonesy_____Rio___________evra
Nani______Valencia____Scholesy_______Giggsy
____________Young__________
_______________________Rooney__________
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or Nani for Giggsy and Chico for Nani…
Albert Ross – Imagine the first Manchester derby next season, and Van Bommel smashing Ya ya Toure? Be worth it, just to see that!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-can-make-manchester-829680
Captain Evra says we must score early and make City Nervous so they feel rushed.
I agree with Paddy here, its a good article too.
He goes on to say.
“It hurts the manager a lot when we lose a game, more than it used to”, said the France defender.”That shows you the character and the personality he has to always win.
If we don’t win the league it will hurt a lot of people, but the first person it will hurt will be the manager.”
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Before anyone jumps to criticise big mouth Evra, Remember he is the Captain and must fulfil his duties & speak to the media, be positive and also be a part of mind games.
You can indeed criticise his performances and his drop in performance since WC’2010 but you cannot question his leadership and Character and dedication. Top Fella !
He can’t play like a 27 year old all his career but I hope Paddy can knuckle down, adapt and become a better Defender next season. I hope France drop him.
classy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18034222
Mind Games. Pehaps too late SAF.
I think Evra is great at going forward and creating space,problem is the space he creates is the huge hole in our defence.
WillieRedNut – I drool therefore I am!
That’s a great image you have inspired, thank you!
Do you think he’ll cost a bommel?
parryheid – well stated!
We must cover that gap tactically, or forever pay a steep price for Evra’s attacking prowess.
Sandeep – Something like this? DDG, Rafael Rio Jones Evra, Valencia Scholes Clevs Young, Rooney Hernandez.
Irish hero,
That line up is possible mate,
but we have some gaps there,
tom c and scholesy havent been tested together in the middle of the park..
i believe Tom C will not start the game tomorrow..
Sir Alex will surely go for experience tomorrow, may be one last time!!
So Giggsy and Scholesy will start, i hope Giggsy will start on wings!!.
If we need a beast in midfield, we have Valencia, who has played in that position for his country..
but even he isnt tested there with scholesy, but with Valencia, we have physical power..
starting scholesy and Tom c in the middle of the park will be a failure tactically IMO..
If Tom C and scholesy start, scholesy will have to defend all game..
or time to play 4-3-3?
Valencia—scholes—-nani
Young___chicha___rooney
???
Team for tomorrow
Thor
Hawk eye Wolverine Storm Black Widow
Spiderman Iron Man Captain America Professor X
Silver Surfer
Hulk
Avengers Manchester Assemble United
Mark van Bommel?
What we want is bommelbastic midfielder fantastic player
Bommel
He’s Mark Bommelbastic say he’s fantastic don’t say that I’m plastic just a
Ro…mantic want a bombastic bommel to attack sick
Yaya
Tom C,
I feel for the lad,
since his return from injury, he hasnt had game time, so we havent seen him in good form..
time to look forward to next season..
Hoping to see Tunni, Keane get promoted..
The future is really good, the young lads have immense talent..
##
De Gea, Rafael, Jonesy, Smalling, Danny, Tom C,
Sam, Cole, Keanes, Tunni, Petrucci, zeki, wootton, Lingard, Brady
The next class is coming up..
beware you mercenary cunts..
Why not try Valencia in the middle?
Young & Nani on the flanks
Marq,
yup i have slotted him in the middle in my first line up prediction..
all our wingers have been immense this season, time we started all of them either by slotting one in the middle or changing the formation to 4-3-3
Sandeep – Interesting thought, but I don’t see Fergie tinkering this late. A game we have to win as well. Tony v has played in center mid for his country. He could do it, I’m sure. I just think the boss will go with what he knows.
Surely Hulk would play in midfield?! Isn’t he that destructive box to box we’ve after since Keano went and gone?
Reckon Thor at CB too.
HAMMER!!!!
Kev e
I wanted Hulk in front so that after he scored a goal he would say:
Puny goalkeeper, after smashing him into the ground a few times.
what? carrick out from the club next season?
Hmm what about this team for tom…DDG, rafa, rio, jones, evra, valencia, scholes, YOUNG in the middle, nani, roo, hernandez.
Hello reds,
suggest some inspirational movies..
Like october sky
into the wild etc..
also of FBI and CIA if any..
thanks..
@MG:
Can we send Hulk to QPR and play as goalie?
red_bicycle
That might be tactically and more importantly strategically a brilliant idea.
After Hulk is done with city:
Puny bitters
and good luck berbatov.
Thanks for your services and memories..
The lad will be pulling the greatest shirt one last time!!
carrick not playing could be a bit of a bother. instead of slotting valencia in CM i’d rather boss plays 4-3-3 then force players out of position. i loves scholesy and giggsy but starting them together does not make sense anymore. its not a given, we still need to show up tommz. c’mon you reds. DONE AND ONTO THE NEXT ONE!
Mick has been an important player this season but.if he’s missing it doesn’t matter. He’s not a threat, he is our “break it, move it” man. He will never be a match or league winner or loser, he’s just Mick. Good honest and dependable. Passes efficiently but rarely deadly. In the unlikely event we win the league it wont be down to his outstanding contribution, nor will it a loss to the Berties.
We need to strengthen our once mighty midfield and let the lad take a rest where he would have been if the class of 99 were still in there prime.
On the bench, waiting for his chance!
Mancini : We got MONEY what do u got??!!
SIR ALEX : WE GOT SCHOLES !!!
“Carrick has been our most important player this season”
Errr…………. No he hasn’t. and the love-in that several regular contributors on here have with him, is mystifying. He’s a side-way, pace-slowing crab, that without his big bro ‘Scholes’, is found out all the time. He neither scores, assists or dictates any game – apart from 1 in 6, which being a Utd player isn’t good enough -.
I’m a season ticket holder of over a quarter of a century, so cut the crap before you even start.
As long as we win and then at the very least make it a goal difference issue so at least they don’t finish with more points than us. I’ll take that now. To finish level on points with our squad and the injuries is some feat. QPR will get steamrolled by several goals I reckon but you just never know…
@MG
Why not play “Ant Man” as goalie. He could just grow bigger and sit in front of Goal.
I remember a game earlier in the season when Nani played in the ‘hole’, did very well with runs at the defenders and in general ran amok across the front line. So having Young, Nani and Valencia in behind Rooney would be ideal, but I dont know who will sit in the middle with Scholes. Just hope it isnt Giggs. As someone posted earlier Giggs and Scholes together does not work any more.