Real Madrid midfield, Xavi Alonso, has today claimed that one of the reasons England failed to impress during this World Cup was because Michael Carrick was below Chelsea’s Frank Lampard and Manchester City’s Gareth Barry in the midfield pecking order.
“Gerrard is a great player. He inspires and leads, he is very strong and is capable of making players around him raise their game, but he also needs players alongside to bring the best out of him,” said Alonso. “England missed a player like Carrick in the midfield, somebody who knows how to be in the right place at the right time. Gerrard gains a lot from having a player like Carrick as a partner, somebody who provides the back-up he needs to be free and bring his power to bear decisively in a game.”
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Got to agree. Despite the fact that Carrick’s form dipped at the end of the season, I feel that he could have helped England. More than Barry anyway.
barry= overrated mercenary
carrick >>> barry
That’s what fucked up England, we try to play what people consider the best 11 in the team rather than the 11 that would play well / work well together. 4-4-2 against the likes of Germany who play 4-5-1 is never going to work. Something like the following would of worked a whole let better in my eyes.
James
Johnson King Terry Cole
Carrick
Lampard Barry/Gerrard/Milner
Lennon Gerrard/Cole
Rooney
Michael Carrick is the most average footballer you could ever wish to see, like most England players. He doesn’t possess one outstanding ability and he can’t run, I have never seen Michael Carrick sprint, I could run backwards and still beat him in a race.
@gary
so how much do lampard or barry sprint? the dm role does not sprinting, rather a good vision, tackling abilities and as alonso says someone who can be in the right place at the right time.
Carrick is probably one of the most under rated players at the moment (along with John O’Shea). He had a bad season in comparison to the standards that he had set at United in the previous seasons. Looking forward to seeing him get back to his old form next season.
Guys;
Carrick is by far the worst player I’ve seen in a United shirt (in the past couple of years). At least guys like Tosic and Dong never got a fair chance. We’re talking about a player who was the main reason in our dismal kick out of the CL. We’re talking about a player who Fergie even finally listened to the fans and benched for almost 2 months, and only got a rare sub appearance. We’re talking about a player who wasn’t even sure of going to SA and was amongst the critics’ favourite with Bent to not be included.
I just hate it when suddenly poeple forget and the media hype will suddenly make us believe he is a good player.
I don’t care what Alonso said.
Alonso hates Barry because he was one of the main reasons behind him leaving Liverpool and losing trust with Rafa, and he always feel that Barry is better than him, so it is normal for him to critisize him now and make our own muppet Carrick as an influential player.
I reside in Egypt, and after that Bayern Munich game I decided that my black away jersey will have this on the back:
GET
CARRICK
OUT
And I am waiting till I go to London by the end of this month to print it on the back, and nothing will change that.
@huzi
I never said Barry and Lampard were speed merchants. I don’t think there is much to seperate Barry and Carrick, they’re both as useless as eachother.
Carrick, good vision? These so called killer passes from Carrick are about as rare as sex is in a prolonged marriage. He’s a pathetic excuse for a professional footballer. He wants an eternity on the ball and is constantly caught in possession. I would be happy to never see him in a United shirt again.
@sherif zaki
what a load of bollocks youve just typed. yes, he had a bad end to this season, but blaming him for us getting knocked out is beyond ridiculous. why not blame rafael for the red or for his 1 on 1 miss? dont forget that carrick was the one of uniteds best players in the previous two seasons.
Huzi;
Are you serious. Hahaha.
How long have you been watching United?
I can’t add more than what Gary has said, really.
Can’t put it any better than him.
Best player in the past 2 seasons? Shoot me!
People keep saying he’s a killer passer of the ball. And those people are probably the same ones who believe that Ben Foster is the best English keeper.
Carrick was seen as the pure replacement for Keane and he failed to do that, so ignorant people started labeling him as the next Scholes, and again he failed to do that. He wanders helplessly in the middle of the park. If you can’t see that Fletcher owns the field then I don’t know what else to say. Fletcher defends, intercepts, passes and create attacks.
Please tell me one thing that Carrick is doing. Just one. Please label one thing.
And I am not going to talk over the Bayern game. Blaming Rafael for it is like blaming Rooney for England’s loss. We were 3-0 up. Do you even know what does that mean?
@huzi
Carrick was the main culprit in our exit to Bayern Munich. Yes Rafael was stupid in holding on to Ribery, but I’ll forgive him because he brings qualities to the team. Carrick got shoved to the ground by a man half his size, he then stood on the ball on the half way line got caught and they won the corner which resulted in the goal, a shot that he turned his back on. He did a similar thing against Liverpool, pissing about on the half way line getting robbed and Liverpool sprung an attack and Torres scored. Carrick was never one of our best players in ther last 2 seasons. He just made up the numbers. I’m not blaming him because it’s not his fault he’s useless. Hopefully Fergie has seen the light now.
On a different subject I see fergie has again said today in the mail that he is happy with his squad and there is no value in the Market how can he say that again like last summer when players like snider when to inter for 10 million ? Where is our scouting network?
The beauty about Carrick is that he was benched for 2 months, and when he returned for a brief cameo appearance against his old team Spurs (he was again at fault for the goal with the way King outplayed him). It is like every time he plays it is a disaster.
We’re talking about a player who only got this ‘sex on legs’ reputation by Arsene Wenger who spoke fondly of him when he was with West Ham in the 2nd division, and that’s why stupid Spurs moved for him. And that’s why we moved for him. So it not only Levy laughing at us, but it is Arsene who at times and times again proved to have his wrong share of sayings on young kids.
Carrick was seen as a replacement to Vieira by Wenger.
Same way as Walcott has been hailed as the person who will succeed Henry.
Same way like Quinton Fortune had a reputation of being the next Roberto Carlos.
Carrick wouldn’t get into any of the top7 PL clubs, seriously he won’t.
Carrick has been programmed to go sidesways and backwards, no doubt the legacy of the FA’s coaching as a youngster!
@Gary & @Sherif Zaki
Did you guys just start supporting United in the last 6 months or so? If yes, please check the link below. If not, you obviously suffer from long term memory loss and you should probably check the video to refresh your memories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qNwX420Sgw&feature=related
you gotta be kidding me. carrick have never been good? we really are having alot of fair weather fans nowadays.
@arijic thanks for that. he had a bad patch but these fans are saying like they can play better than carrick.
@arijc
Don’t give me that rubbish. Just because I don’t rate Michael Carrick this makes me a bandwagon supporter does it? Anything I say on here can be seen as a lie but I’m a season ticket holder and have been making 370 mile round trip for over a decade.
A link on youtube? You could make Emile Heskey look good on youtube by collecting his best moments. Carrick is useless, fact.
Neville doesn’t get blamed for his handball which led to Bayern first goal in Germany, or how about Evra’s mistake in not clearing the ball in the dying minutes, which led to Bayern’s second? Why do those two not get blamed? Just because they’re Utd through and through, and are always speaking their love of the club, unlike Carrick, so it’s alright if they make costly mistakes which played a huge part in our exit of the CL.
Carrick, really ?
I am 27. I support United since I was 9 in 1992. One of the main things I do is that I am a freelance writer in the country’s top English sports magazines. I am a sports TV/Radio analyst in some of the region’s top satellite channels. I have my online blog and another one for United. I probably spend all my savings to fly from Cairo to Manchester and get a ticket off the black market to watch a game for United. I spent an entire fortune to be there in Moscow. I spent more than that fortune to fly to Roma and had sleepless nights trying to get a ticket off the black market just to watch Carrick outplayed in the middle of the field. My relationship with United is more than people like you would understand.
It is just that you people who live in the UK specifically are blinded by English players, and on another note, you do believe that foreigners like myself are not United fans, even though we breathe and speak United more than you.
At the end of the day, we all have different opinions, and that’s why there is the internet.
@Fze123
Did you fail to see what I said about Rafael. No one is imune from making mistakes. It’s just Carrick makes a lot of them and adds virtualy nothing to the team at the same time. But then when he does eventually make a good through ball it will have people up in arms claiming that Carrick’s passing range is fantastic when it isnt. Any player can pick out a good pass once every blue moon.
@gary and sherif zaki
carrick had a crap 07/08 season? hes a bad passer?
well why not look at this? http://freekicker.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/opta-stats-for-the-epl-season-2007-08/
he was one of the best passer in that season behind scholesy, flamini, ferdinand and clichy, his passing accuracy was better than fabregas, gerrard, hleb and lampard.
crap eh?
Some people’s memories are so short. One bad season makes Carrick shite. Behind Scholesy he is our best passer of the ball when on form. I think Capello should have given him a chance, what was the point in taking him to SA and not using him at all. An off-from Carrick would surely have put in better performances than the woeful Lampard and Barry.
wow sherif zaki. who even asked for your bio on this?
It is not about the handball or about that Evra mistake.
Fletch was caught out of possession against Fulham in his first full season and Fulham scored from it. The game was played at the Cottage, but probably you guys don’t remember that because it seems you are recent supporters or you just have a weak memory.
It is not about mistakes against Bayern. It is his all around display. It is not about the game against Liverpool or that stupid move he made against Wolves which would have cost us the game in the last second.
It is his all around play and movement.
You know what, just forget it. Tomorrow he will be sold and you guys will see the difference in our team without him.
@Gary
Agreed that a YouTube video is not the best evidence. But its still sufficient to show the sheer stupidity of your comments regarding Carrick.
“I could run backwards and still beat him in a race.”
Please try that, record it and upload it on YouTube.
@Gary & Sherif Zaki. The fuck up.
@huzi
Yes he can keep possession of the ball. Stats don’t all ways show the real story. Carrick often lays of 6 yard square passes a hell of a lot without ever producing key passes. To even mention Scholes and Carrick is same breath is stupid. Paul Scholes is a celebration of footballing technique. He will be remembered as one of the greats of his generation. Look at the end of the day you rate Carrick and I don’t. You will not change my mind on this and I’m not going to change yours.
My bio has nothing to do with this. Some fool was questioning my support to United and he’s probably 12 who picked up United because he has a crush on Rooney’s wife Coleeen.
This website is the best fansite for United, but definitely it’s only worth reading the news.
I think I made a mistake commenting.
Adios!
Simple Alonso, quite right actually.
I’ve wanted to see a 4-2-3-1 formation for a long while:
James
Johnson & King & Terry & Cole
Carrick & Barry
Gerrard & Lampard & SWP
Rooney
Maybe next month he will start the experimenting, fielding the 4-4-2 internationally is a little archaic. There really isn’t bad teams anymore, the weaker teams can have great discipline and athleticism that can undo a team who ride on ego’s for such a game (England vs Algeria/USA).
@arijc
I think you need to take comments with a pinch of salt. I think I need to get you a sarcasm detector in the future if you took to heart my comments that I could beat Carrick in a race running backwards. Saying that though I would still give him a run for his money running backwards.
Friend of mine asked me recently when we were having a debate about Carrick (I am the pro Carrick person)
“Ask yourself honestly, how many times have you been watching United, and midway through the game, you see Carrick and ask yourself, has he been on from the start?”
No comment, Fergie knows best
One thing I will say. There are too many fans in every sets of supporters who only watch the game through tinted specs of their respected clubs. I garuntee some of the United fans praising Carrick on here would be very quick to rubbish him if he never wore a United shirt and was playing for the likes of City and Liverpool. Funny how pure biastnes towarfds your own club can blind people. I never boo Carrick, I never boo any player. But it doesn’t change the fact I think the bloke is rubbish.
Carrick is a great passer, good defensively, is a creative and technical player. I don’t know how any Utd fan can say he doesn’t offer anything to the team. He has been great in his first 3 seasons for us, consistent and turned up in big games. Many seem to forget how he brilliant he was against Roma at OT, Inter away in the 08/09 season, and his important winning goal against Wigan away in the same season, off the top of my head. Last season is a one off, a dip in form. I don’t even know why I am bothering, clearly many fans have made up their mind about him, fair enough. But wanting to wear a shirt with the words ‘get Carrick out’ is just way over the top; is there really a need to go that far to show your dissatisfaction? He is still a Utd player and should get our support no matter what.
I personally appreciate watching him play when on form, a tidy player who goes about doing his job in no fuss, in a simple but effective way.
Lads Lads Lads….come on. Carrick had a bad season last season and made some horrible mistakes. I’m not his biggest fan but he’s been heavily involved in trophy winning seasons and we can’t forget that just because of a lousy season. Personally I’d like to see Alonso playing for both United and England!!!
Arijc – Funny! Did you honestly think Gary was being serious when he said he’d beat Carrick in a race running backwards?! That is very stupid.
@Gary, I don’t really think he would have been first choice midfielder in his first 3 seasons for us, if he was a rubbish player. Surely Fergie wouldn’t start him otherwise.
@ Sherif Zaki
Yes, i think you did make a mistake.
To suggest Dong didn’t get a chance tells me all i needed to know about you.
Get real fella! Dong???
Did you ever see him play?
Blimey!
Now Dong I could beat running backwards with a fridge strapped to my back!
@Fze123
Michael Carrick has of course contributed to United but it’s minimal at best. He played in one of the best United sides in the clubs history and was surrounded by supremely talented players. Now United are in a transitional period I think Carrick has been shown up for the very average player that he is. Maybe harsh because it wasn’t easy for him last season. I don’t question his commitement to United’s cause, I just question his quality and I really don’t think he’s no where near good enough to be playing for United.
@gary
we’ll do better without carrick? fergie doesnt think so. yes i agree hes had a bad end to the season,but blaming him for everything is absurd. why not blame tony for the miss vs blackburn or nani for the red vs aston villa?
Plenty of unfair critisism for Carrick by some. For a moment there I thought we were discussing Eric Djemba Djemba.
@huzi
It’s not a case of blaming him for us not winning the league. You can look back at any moments in any season and pinpoint to things. It’s a case of I don’t think the bloke is very good! And I have explained my reasons. I just think he’s an extrememly average footballer who contributes very little to this United side.
or Kleberson!! We do have fickle fans. Should he play this season and play well, these same individuals will be singing his praises. If anyone is to blame for our European exit it is Rooney!! In the 1st leg against Bayern we saw the old petulant Rooney as he stupidly kicked a ball at the opponent who was a couple of yards away and went slightly over the top. He got booked for this and rightly so. A couple of minutes later he was chasing back the player who eventually slid the ball through for the late winner. Now had he not just been booked, he would have taken the player out preventing the last minute winner. He would also not have been injured by trying to jump out of the way of the player. We would have drawn the game 1-1 and had a fully fit Rooney for the remaining games of the season, which included the Chelsea game. So Rooney is to blame for our Euro and Prem failures!!
Said it before Who was missing from their position in the centre of defence ? Its not Carricks position but it is Rio’s,
@Gary and @Sherif Zaki, what a load of balls you two have just typed. fergie seems to have trusted carrick for 3 or 4 years and included him in the squad over and over again. now for the best manager in the world to put so much faith in a player, he can hardly be shit can he? and as for someones comment before about how carrick wouldnt get into a top 7 team, erm…. he played for 3 teams and two of them are in the champions league
I really dont like a player being called shit or anything bad.But guys its a fact carrick is by far the most average player in current squad.I wont mind if berba gets another chance but i would like fergie to sell carrick .
I meant a united player being called shit .
@Gary
FYI That comment was a sarcastic response to yours.
The point is that Carrick is not expected to run up and down all the time. His role has been to primarily sit in the mid field (kind of a quarter back role) and pass the ball. But he also made enough runs to the box and scored goals when the occasion has demanded it to nullify your point. He doesn’t have the pace of a Rooney/Nani/Valencia, but he has sufficient pace to control the mid field.
Seriously the most fucking ridiculous comments I have ever seen on here! Absolutly wankers offering no real argument whatsoever, same people who booed at half time against Sunderland when we were top of the league at the time by anychance??
I think Alonso should practice penaltys and mind his own business about Carrick.
Carrick is never a poor footballer like Berbatov never a poor striker…
But nowaday game most noted BPL required very pacy player…the game play with such speed and agression that make once a good player like Carrick and Berbatov look worse sometime because their lack of pace…not every game they play poorly but in a game with such high tempo they seem lagging…thats all.
‘I reside in Egypt, and after that Bayern Munich game I decided that my black away jersey will have this on the back:
GET
CARRICK
OUT
And I am waiting till I go to London by the end of this month to print it on the back, and nothing will change that.’
And you go onto comment on how much of a Utd fan you are… honestly, please stick to your word and never comment again.
I’m not sure why people are slagging off Alonso, he’s basically praised Carrick yet people are getting on at him. As for the comment about Alonso thinking Barry’s better than himself… have you ever watched Alonso play? He’s a great player and would walk into both the Utd and England side.
Funny how I’d never heard so many people slagging off Carrick before the end of this season…
I’ve heard United fans complain Carrick in seasons past and a lot of fans didn’t even want United to sign him, but SAF knew best.
nobodys fault the munich defeat, we win as a team and lose as a team. carricks form dipped aftera stint at cb over the xmas period, its fair enough, he plays cb and lose’s his cm position, its a little harsh. bet every carrick hater used to hate cheered like fuck when he scored an quality winner.
alonso’s statement is correct. Given Barry only recently recover from injury and Carrick is healthy, Carrick shou;d have been in a higher position in the pecking order. If you say that Carrick does not run, neither does Barry….
vidic well get ya 15- Long time no comment from you pal. How’s it going?
@boogeyman
not so bad mate, hows you, cant wait for the pl season to start!!
what about yourself
@Sherif Zaki:
“Carrick was seen as the pure replacement for Keane”
No-one at the club ever saw Carrick as a replacement for Keane. In fact, the club (and player) were understandably quite keen to distance themselves from any comparisons made, especially after he was given the number 16 shirt.
“and he failed to do that”.
By winning the Premier League in his first season as first choice alongside Scholesy (and another two after that, in rotation). Great argument.
Listen, I’m neither here nor there as far as Carrick is concerned. On form, he’s absolute quality and when he’s out-of-form, he can disappear, I’m well aware of that. However, if you’re going to come on here making ridiculous assertions, don’t be surprised if you get taken apart.
i think you lose a little bit from carricks games when fletcher doesnt play, fletcher gives carrick time to pick his passes, makelle wasn’t fast, didnt play long balls through or score goals, yet madrid have only won the title since he left(after 3 on the bounce), he went to chelsea, who won it twice in 2 seasons with him, and only one since he left, makelle’s reading of the game was second to none, thats what we get out of carrick, he never take on 5 men and score nor put in keane-esq tackles but he does what he does very well, and brings alot to the table in that. av always said you’ll never win a title with 10 ronaldos, you need some one to do the dirty work,
@ gary..are you really this dumb or are you putting on a show to make us laugh here. and you’re a season ticket holder,eh? to qoute you, “Michael Carrick has of course contributed to United but it’s minimal at best. He played in one of the best United sides in the clubs history and was surrounded by supremely talented players.”
united had gone 3 years without the league title and had lost roy keane and van nistelrooy in the summer we signed carrick..and then we go on to win the league for three years in a row with him being the first choice central midfielder. Must have been a coincidence..isnt it!
to be the first choice CM in fergie’s team is a feat in itself..but of course you’re a hell lot smarter than fergie saying that he was stupid enough to keep playing a guy “who contributed to united but it’s minimal best”.
Fucking fairwhether fans!!
Have to agree with the people saying Carrick is overrated. Even in the seasons before last his contribution going forward was poor. His passing range is sideways and backwards and 1 out of 10 good forward passes. He is a 7/10 player at best most games. When have you seen a 10/10 from him? He isn’t world class and he hasn’t grown as a player at United. We need world class players in the centre of our midfield. Defensively he is often too weak and uncommitted in challenges for a tall lad, nothing like keane so I am not sure why he wears 16.
Scholes >>>>> Carrick
Fletcher >>> Carrick
It must be quite hard being in his position knowing this to be fair, and is bound to dent his confidence.
I have always bashed him since he joined and last season in the big games just summed it up. Not united quality.
Response to @sharifZaki..
im 24..i support united since i was 5..im a professional footballer and i play for one of europe’s biggest club…blah blah blah
im sure you believe me now and would agree with my point!! Whinny bitch!
@ macha, so owen should be like ronaldo or cantona??? ridiculous comment, its a number ffs,
Not that ridiculous. He clearly took the number as he aspired to be as important and dominant in midfield as keane was to us, espeically given no one good took the number 16 before keane.
The number 7 is given to someone fergie believes can be our talismanic player. I think owen got it because he felt none of the younger players in the team were ready/deserved to take up the responsibility.
main stay in the team
3 pl titles
2 euros finals
a world club cup
2 carling cups,
played 188 games for the club at an average of 47 per season and 19 goals, am happy with the 18 million we paid for a very under-rated player
Carrick, on last seasons showing, will really have to have a blinding start to the season to stay at United for much longer. in my humble opinion, as a Reds fan of over 45 years I have seen better players than him get shipped out for a lot less.
When he wants to he can really rule a game but to me it appears he has the attitude of ‘i have made it’ and he doesn,t often try to boss the midfield as he should be doing.
Nani had the same attitude early last year and SAF straightened him out so lets hope that SAF can get to grips with Carrick…..at least he should be fresh for the start of the season having a good rest sitting on his arse on the bench in Africa.
@tonybee
hard to argue with you as you always talk sence, i feel the battering he took from xavi and iniesta hurt carrick and maybe sometimes feels to blame, playing badly in big games has effected big player before, look at baggio after the pen miss, or the whole french side since 06, even drogba played shite the season after moscow, i’m backin carrick to come back as strong as ever and him and fletch to boss yaya and barry in the derbys next season
It’s really unfair to compare Carrick with Keano, as the latter is imo, the best midfielder of the premiership era. No one can deny that since Carricks been at the club, we’ve been successful and to try and say that he’s played a small part in that is simply not true.
@macha
Carrick was given the number 16, the operative word being ‘given’.
If somehow you’re now going to say that *the club* wanted him to be ‘the next Keane’, then read my earlier post before you waste your time.
Thats an interesting point about Alonso just saying that to have a dig at Barry (btw what the FUCK was Rafa thinking kicking out Alonso for Barry??? Jesus im gonna miss that Spaniard lol )
But truth be told Carrick shouldve had a run out during the World Cup, Barry was absolutely woeful and the Blue half should have felt immense shame and humiliation after seeing his pathetic pace exposed on the world stage for the world to see, like I said to my lot, how much did they pay again? hahaha.
As for the attacks on Carrick today, Yes he had a horrible season, all starting with THAT miss and I’d love to know why he was chosen to take it, cos it showed disrespect to the oppoenents for starters and we suffered for it – Would he take a Kick against Chelsea? Big Cock Up.
Anyway, last season aside Carrick has played a huge role in our success in the past, he never set the world alight & never will, but when hes inform he does exactly what Alonso says he does. For instance when Ronaldo was here Carrick played a big part in allowing him to get forward and do his thing, because anytime we lost the ball he was there to pick it up in front of our back four and pick out Ronaldo again. Last Season he had a blip, but before that he was starting the movement for loads of our goals. England needed that, not Barry believing his own hype and thinking he could get forward. Carrick would have strengthened the back four in Rio’s absence and stayed deep in midfield, allowing whoever else to get forward. So Alonso has a point. No he’s no Scholes but when he does his job well its a very important one for the team. I hope he’s back to his best when the new Season starts.
Paul Parker – carrick is a good player but my problem with carrick that has always been the problem is his mobility, it has been the same with berbatov the game passes them by and they are ineffective especially when the chips are down, carrick got away with it a phew years ago, because he was younger so he had a much better engine, the problem is now? he is older he has slowed down and the big part of his game which is getting worse is his passing. When carrick has come up against the best midfielders and played in the big games he has been found out atleast 7 times out of 10, now I would not say we won those titles in spite of carrick but if we had another very good player would things have changed I doubt it, p neville would have been just has effective in the team that won the trophys I think
But carrick came into a united team that saw VDS ferdinand vidic and evra formed a fantastic patnership at the back, scholes and giggs really rolling back the glory years, ronaldo becoming the worlds best player and rooney linking up brilliantly with ronaldo, and then tevez formed the holy trinity, so carrick came to united team in a great cycle for united, but look at van nistlerooy a sensational player came to united in their underwhelming years where the team needed rebuilding and pnly 4 trophys came, carrick never went through that and would he have lifted all those trophys in the team van nistlerooy was in.
United’s biggest 3 area’s of the team which has served them well in the past phew years? is in goal defence and our attack. We have never recaptured the glory days of keane scholes beckham and giggs, our midfield has been similar to our aftermath of 99 with big Pete leaving, we flipped flopped our way through GK’s, it has been like this with our midfield, we have gone through loads spent allot of money on midfielders much more than the GK position, carrick is like lets say a glorified version of bartez, he has been a good stop gap plug but not a convincing one. and by the time bartez was in his 3rd season he was getting worse simuler with carrick only this time it was his 4th season a time when united were rebuilding the team.
When a player pulls on a United shirt we support them thru and thru. Don’t forget when united signed carrick we won the premier league back from romans band of dicks. The game against Roma where he scored those 2 outstanding goals. Doesnt mean when the chips are down we blame our players. Like i said when they pull on the shirt we support!
Having seen Barry this season really puts Carricks poor form in perspective. He’s a top quality midfielder our Michael. It is shocking how Capello’s neglected him…
rtnk: You seem over-judgemental. Alot of great players will go unnoticed by alot of spectators for many games, but when they aren’t there you can see that something’s missing. Carrick has been poor this season, I won’t argue with that.
But over the years he’s been here he has been excellent at bringing his teammates in to play by simple and clever passning, always making sure he keeps the ball rolling. At the same time he covers up spaces in midfield brilliantly and is able to collect so many loose balls by doing so, which is pivotal to keep the pressure up when attacking. He isn’t that mobile, true, but his positioning skills makes up for it.
Not all players can be like Rooney, Fletcher and Park running around and being seen everywhere on the pitch.
Here is the point:
Could we improve on VDS, not much, as he is world class.
Could we improve on Ferdinand, Vidic, or Evra, not much, as they are world class.
Could we improve on Scholes, Fletcher, Nani, Valencia, Giggs, not much as they are world class.
Could we improve on Rooney, not much as he is world class.
Could we improve on Carrick, yes because he isn’t world class, he is an average 7/10 player at best.
Obviously we need to replace some of these as they are getting on, but my point is for a starting 11 player, we could do better. It would be nice if he shows me up, but as I said before he hasn’t improved as a player at United.
carrick was never bought for keanes role that was hargreaves and before everyone starts knocking him he was asked to do things last year out of his normal realm because of injuries to defenders and to hargreaves and anderson.some of you don’t either see or understand whats going on and all you do is jump on players,its the same with berba its like your not happy unless your slagging players your not utd fans just fucking idiots
There are some ridiculous comments coming out here… I won’t add, I’ll just paste in something I posted into the F365 mailbox a month or so back…
“Carrick made 92 appearances out of a possible 114 appearances in 3 Manchester United Championship winning sides, more then any other of United’s central midfielders. He also appeared 12 times in the Champions league winning side, and 9 times in the Champions League Runners-up side the following season. Sorry F365, but you cannot be a “rubbish player” and still have achieved that. He may have been poor last season (though he still managed to appear 30 times for a team that finished 2nd, and he put in a couple of handy performances around Jan/Feb, his best coming against Arsenal at Emirates), but one poor season does not make a poor player… and it is naive to suggest otherwise.”
Oh and personally, I would suggest Carricks best attribute is his positional sense. He has a very good knack of being in the right place at the right time to break up opposition attacks… that also ensures he dosen’t have to go sliding around on his backside. Are there better players out there? Sure, but there are better players out there then a lot of United players at the moment.
@Sherif
How dare you put that on your back? Get behind your players, not gang up on them! I imagine your the same fans that booed Fletcher back in the day or chanted over Fergie’s end of season speech?
Fucking utter filth.
England team for the next world cup……..
Joe hart
ashley cole
Matthew Dawson
Gary Cahill
Glen Johnson
Ashley young
jack Rodwell
jack wilshere
Adam Johnson
Theo Walcott
Wayne Rooney
…..I think cashley & Glenn might be a bit old & battered
by then but this will probably be the foundation of our national team……no Carrick unfortunately
he’s not “Xavi Alonso”, he’s XABI ALONSO…and LMFAO on his words
Cum up guys,wats d noise abt dis carrick as if he’s been compare to ireland.lets be honest n realistic,even d most insane person wll tell u carrick is pathetic, wat a lad! Commentin on him makes me weep cos’ most women wll do more than him on d field of play.we can all agree he’s indeed lucky d legendary Keano isnt playin anymore he wud ‘ve given hm d beaten of his miserable life.i dnt wan get more upset plz jst hopin that tin is given out fast.Tell me wat club as even been rumour to d twat?
frank – Speak fucking English you cunt.
Carrick 4 life