Roy Keane has repeatedly stood up for the rights of footballers, claiming that clubs treat them like meat, selling them on whenever they want to, so why shouldn’t the players do what is best for them?
To a certain degree, I agree with what Keano has to say, but what I can’t abide by is these players who claim to be loyal, who repeatedly speak to the press about their desire to stay at the club, then stab their fans in the back by handing in a transfer request. We’ve endured how that feels recently when conned by Wayne Rooney’s badge kissing, but the future Liverpool and Chelsea strikers are the latest of a long line of mercenaries who lie to the fans to earn the adulation, but don’t back their words up with the commit they profess to have.
August 3rd 2010: “This is the best club in the country so the targets and expectations are always high. I am really happy to be back, really happy to stay with all my team-mates. My commitment and loyalty to the club and to the fans is the same as it was on my first day when I signed. I felt at home from the first day, I feel the fans love me and everyone knows I am really happy here and really happy to play at Anfield.”
5 months later, Fernando Torres hands in a transfer request and is in talks to join Chelsea.
October 8th 2010: “All I have ever wanted to do is play for Newcastle. That’s been the case since I was a teenager, playing for the juniors and deserves, and it’s still the same now. Every time I pull on the black and white shirt – and even more so now that I have number nine on my back – it means the world to me so to be able to do that for at least the next five years is brilliant.”
3 months later, Andy Carroll hands in a transfer request and is in talks to join Liverpool.
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Waste of money the pair!
you cant even trust the brits anymore
Its totally gutting mate. Football has lost its soul. Always threatened to lose it, but with Bent, Torres and now a geordie number 9 leaving. Although there is more to Andy Carrols transfer request than what Sky Sports would have you believe (Mike Ashley officially rejecting his own asking price when Carrol had already been informed and thus had his heart set on the move), it is a sad day as he was Shearers true successor. A geordie number 9 who could equal Big Al. When are we EVER going to get another one of those ??
Haha brilliant!! If it wasnt for Rooney it would have been even funnier
To be fair, some of these lads are like fine race horses. Keane for instance is just a dried prune when on the bench week in and week out. He wants his money, but if feel he would be off to Addis Ababba if it meant a regular game. He’s a nutter for the feel of competitive grass beneath his feet.
Harder to be this kind to Torres, say what you like about looserfool. Torres was playing, being paid top dollar, and scouse fans support their players, to a fault.
Now we know where the term ‘deep-lying centre-forward’ came from.
To be fair, Roy Keane is an utter twat. Great footballer and servant to our club but he’s just a big baby at the end of the day. His opinion just goes through one ear and out the other with me.
@Usama
yeah, Rooney has meant we dont have bragging rights over other teams
We should have been principled and let Rooney go. Not one player is bigger than UTD
I dont think carroll is a liar, he didnt want the move to happen but Mike Ashley is a money grubbing whore. Of course he’d take 35 mil for carroll. I dont think carroll had much say in the decision to be honest. Torres on the other competely tired of liverpool
?? Rooney – has changed his mind more times than a coalition government regarding his allegiances
Rooney: One’s blue, always blue.
No one should be surprised anymore. I mean once Giggsy, Scholes and Neville have gone it will be a black day in United’s history. Football just isn’t what it used to be.
I think carroll is making the best move as there is plenty of good “CRACK” in the pool
Andy Carroll said in my local paper this morning that his desire was to remain at NUFC….fast forward 3 hours and the coont is putting in a transfer request unbelievable from him and even more so that my club then said ok m8 off you go.GUTTED absolutely gutted
@Gary
Fletch, Evans, the twins, Chicho hopefully will be the new Scholes, Giggs and Nev
Who cares about these idiots. Come on United! Still think, however, we need to dump Rooney in the summer after what he did.
this is pure karma to the scousers.
Would love to do a swap with Madrid
give them Rooney, give us Casillas and Ozil
Its not a new phenomenon…as a pool fan I grudgingly say ‘well at least Rooney stayed’…footballers, especially the top ones are full of their own self importance. Its a funny old game…yawn
@sayyidhashim
You’re right on Fletch, O’shea, possibly Evan’s there. I’m very fond of Hernandez as well, we can only hope. I suppose growing up as a kid in the 90′s I was always be most fond of that crop of players. Fletch has been a great servant to United indeed. Not in the class of Giggsy and Scholes but to be fair to him, you could count on one hand the players that are in the same class as them.
Maybe Torres will play on sunday against the fools and gerard will break his legs
we already knew this scott!!
Rooney left Everton to join United. Good move for Carroll. Torres was never a Liverpool fan. Players come and go, the fans are the one constant, at any club. GET OVER IT!
Torres played for atletico with a liverpoool wristband regularly, and treats the scouse bastards…..well, the way they deserve to be treated HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA TWATS!
ANDY CARROLL. WANKER.
Willierednut. Spot on mate.
Best to have skin art done of the team
RedDevils or bust!
Bla bla bla about Torres. As far as IM concerned he’s a fucking girl. As for Kenny Dalglish you have to understand why he’s selling Torres. Hes getting paid for it (getting a striker Suarez in return with money to spend) and hes trying to hold on to being the most successful club in England. He knows that Liverpool are at best 4-5 years away from being able to launch a serious league challenge and thats if everything goes to plan. So hes strengthened Uniteds fiercest rival. We have to play them twice and for United to cope with Drogba, Torres (against Vidic) and Anelka they will fancy their chances. Ive got to say it will be very hard to cope. I hate singing Dalglishes praises as i hate the scouse scottish twat but he has made more worthwhile deals for Liverpool than the fat spanish waiter.
Anyone with the latest on becks to spurs? I hear he’s training with them.
Rooney is the worst of the three – and that’s the amount of goals he’s scored this season!
Coming to think about the way players have been pledging loyalties to clubs just to go back on their words without any notice, does it mean that Ronaldo should be respected for what he did? He played his shirt off in the united jersey but never led us to expect him to stay with us forever.. You have to respect him for that.
Luiz to Chelsea off again! lol
fuckin hell absolute crack heads. Poor old toon for sure getting relegated now! hahahaha.
Liverpoo to reach the finals of europa league with the addition of suarez and carrol.
i just wish we could swap Rooney with Welbeck(back from loan), Jordan henderson and 30 mill quid.
We just caught you on the hop Fergie lol, you know were coming…. About liars, Rooney saying no investment then I’m off? Investment, yes a revised contract. He’s a liar. Tevez, another UTD mentality; He really so wanted to retire didnt???? So Torres handed in a transfer few it was in the media for us all to see, there the TRUTH was told an we Liverpool F.C. can now move on. Torres, goodluck but not to much fella. Now were on to at this time an due to an undisclosed fee with Chelski its Andy Carroll our new No.9 was rewarded with a new contract due to performance and play. Newcastle are not a wealthy club, £35m is a generous sum paid. But the best bit is he’s English an fits in with the UEFA ruling we all know about. Check his stats he’s better on every factor part from accuracy 54% plays 49%. And he’s 22 but above all when he knew we were in for him TRUTH came out he put in a public transfer request. Newcastle make a tidy profit an will surely strengthen a premiership worthy team in the summer me thinks. With Adams you knew he was a red even his father spoke the TRUTH. So we caught you on the hop Fergie, you know were coming…….
If someone wants to write a book on how NOT to engage in the January transfer market then Liverpool’s dealings on this would be the basis of the book.
What they’ve done is allowed themselves to be put in a position where they needed a replacement for the outgoing Torres and were forced into paying well over the odds for a player who at this stage of his career has no pedigree. Carrol is a £15million player. No more. He hasn’t got ‘form’ behind him. A £35mill. striker is one who’d had at least 2 years good years if the EPL with a good goal scoring record. Carrol has none of that. Liverpool have been taken for a ride and forced into buying Carrol at a grossly inflated fee.
What Liverpool should have done when Torres demanded a transfer was to try to delay the move until the summer by asking for Essien in part exchange. That would have slowed up Chelsea. And given ‘Pool more time to find another possible buyer, and also find a replacement.
Liverpool’s tactics in today’s matter smacks of amateurism of the highest order, and merely confirms why the club is on the downward spiral. Fast.
King Kenny 5 times says, you know were coming. What are you coming on? A donkey lol. Bring it on suckers!
King Kenny 5 Times – Fuck off you cocksucker. At least Badge kissing scum bastard Gerrard has someone else in Carroll to beat up Djs with while his missus is getting spit roasted at home. Cunt.
@ king kenny:Right now I suggest you lot should start thinking about trying to avoid relegation rather than worrying about coming for us. With no Torres in Liverpool you guys got yourselves very few goalscorers considering Andy Carrol id injured, Suarez has never played in England before and David N’gog( world class striker that he is) never has been in form. Guess as usual its down to Stevie Me to make a name for himself but unfortunately this season he seems fed up! so mate concentrate on Wigan and West Ham and forget about MANCHESTER UNITED ( atleast for the next 25 years).
At least Torres will be playing for a club that pay his wages, unlike Gerrard who plays for Liverpool but has been on Chelsea’s pay roll for the last 5 and a half years – you only have to look at his feeble back pass for Drogbas goal at Anfield last season to know that.
@ ‘king Kenny 5 Twats
Evolution not revolution, thats the United way.
Another false dawn for you lot.
Thanks for your input, now fuck off laa
Reina must be cursing now, abandoned and embittered.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3318374/LIVERPOOL-fan-Shaun-McCormack-has-changed-his-name-to-Fernando-Torres.html
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
@King Kenny 5 Times
I find it very hard to believe that your only 5 times a grandfather at the ripe old age of 30. I agree with you that with Andy Caroll you have a useful player, an Englishman to boot, reminds me of Hately. The problem with your team was never a need for another striker. You had Kuyt who youve played on the right wing out of possition for the past 3 4 years. Your talismanic captain is a footballing retard. Sure he score a few goals BUT if I took 7-8 shots from outside the penalty area every bloody match Im sure I would score a few too. You have no wingers, shite central defenders with nothing to help on the bench and the worlds greatest fullback in Johnson, ha ha ha. A goal keeper that wants out?? All that will happen with Liverpool now is the ball will be pumped forward even more often as thats where the entire skill level of the club is and Liverpool will end up playing Bolton football under Allardyce. Atleast with shite all through the team there was no hurry getting the ball forward so the squad slowly learned to play a bit. Here comes long ball football.
I think the Torres deal is more a back handed effort to keep your record of 18 trophies alive by attempting to overpower United with the use of Chelsea rather than achieve anything yourself.
Liverpool a joke always a joke.
Ashley forced Carroll to hand in a request and that’s the only way he could justify it to the fans.
As the ladyboy minces into chelski, the fsw is surely not far behind.
What is Carragher going to do now? Is Carroll his new bit on the side or should he go for Suarez?
rooney looks like a saint now
@smartalex
Moving to United in the summer?
wiilir red nut..luiz move to Chelesa off?????
At least we get to enjoy watching them trying desperately to win trophies with the clubs they’ve chosen to join. And that doesn’t happen very often especially at Anfield
bchilds Reina you mean? Well I guess not, but I’m sure he’d jump at the chance.
loserpool are so slumped that any victory is considered a revival.
beeb say that luiz move to London still on but will have medicl in Portugal as no time to fly in
So then, Torres admitted he was wrong to turn down United years ago. I’m so sorry for him and for us
whatever is said about who’s signing for who, is it not a bit concerning to anyone that we have not even made an attempt to sign a centre mid, no doubt we’ll get the “no value in the market” line trotted out tomorrow. Charlie Adam would at least give us cover and options and despite all the rumour and conjecture I find it hard to believe we’ve made a serious enquiry.
TonyBee – It’s on then it’s off, then it’s back on again lol. Charlie Adam to Liverpool is off.
be even more exciting if we were buying someone…..
Xyth – Carragher will do well to give Suarez a wide birth, otherwise he will get eaten – fucking cannibal!
willie Charlie ADAM not going to scouse land….!!
Matt – I didn’t expect United to make any signings during January. The summer will be very interesting.
Oyston on talksport now saying Adam is highly unlikely to move this window.
Just listening to beetroot cunt Harry Redknapp on Sky Sports News – he has just confirmed that he has made a bid for Phil Neville and said that he is awaiting a response from Moyes. He was then asked as to whether the freak Crouch will be going to Newcastle, he almost erupted – ‘there is absolutely no chance that crouch will be going anywhere!’ Cunt. He blatantly taps up other players, yet when asked about any of his players, he gets on the morale high ground.
Funny how Oyston has made no comment about us signing Adam so highly unlikely we where ever in for him, got to say willie we have made jan signings and he would have added to the squad.
If you have a girl friend and her friend hits on you it is easier to say no then when Angelina Jolie hits on you. Modern footy is big business and Torres wanted to leave last summer and was talked out of it. And Carroll The Pool is a huge European club and what make 2.5 times as much.
I know, none of the posters here have ever lied or would leave there company for the competitor to make 2-3 times as much with better perks and more of a chance for industry recognition.
Moyes has just told Redknapp to fuck off in response to the offer for Phil Neville. Fuck off Redknapp you chancer.
Charlie Adam is distraught his move to Liverpool didn’t happen. Cheer up Charlie, Liverpool’s a dump!
One of the best parts of all this knee jerking today, is Torres is as sure a hell, gonna piss of Didier Dogbreathe, and if Nicolas Anelka, does not get a move to AnalField, its just perfection.More disharmony at the Bridge.
To compare Carrol in 1/2 a season in the top Premiership, as the measurement, of proven goal scorer, reeks of panic.I know if I had a choice, between Carrol and Darren Bent, I know who i would be, selecting for my Club, based on facts.In my opinion Darren Bents, transfer value, was excessive.
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The best part clearly “they ” have blown, a huge part of the fighting fund, they had. It slightly opens the door, for United in the Summer to make, the clever purchases.I cant see United, buying British, there is always a British tax, and over valueing involved.,Search the world, to discover the Gems, like Javier Hernandez, pure Gold. If those two are valued at £45 million and £35 Million , what is Javier valued at?.
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I dont get the Article fully.”Two more Liars” this implies there are other Liars?
Admit nothing,deny everything and make counter- accusations. Simples, the Meerkat.
Guardian blog also in with news that Adam was never on
9.28pm: My highly-placed sources tell me that Blackpool turned down two bids from Liverpool for Charlie Adam today, one worth about £8m, the other £10m. They want £14m, but Liverpool won’t go that far. It looks like the deal is probably off, as we stand.
oh he do like to be beside the seaside
oh he do like to be beside the sea…… tra-la-la
Adams you fat fuck
Seriously, how much must Wellbeck and Hernadez be worth? They’ve both done just as much this season as Carroll has, Wellbeck 6 league goals in 16 starts (half of them out of position out wide), Hernandez, 7 league goals in 16 games, Carroll 11 goals in 19 games. This is both of their first seasons as regulars, it’s Carrolls 2nd, and Hernandez and Carroll are both 22, Wellbeck only 20.
Wellbeck must be worth 20 million, Hernandez more like 40 (based on his international record of 2 World Cup goals, and 11 goals in 20 games)
Fergie you are totally wrong when you say the market has no value, you signed Hernandez for 8 million, now thats fucking value mate!
hiya redscot me old.mate ….Drogba will have his big rubber lips all of a quiver…..hahahahah
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How where your dumplings tony
meerkat… simples…..you silly sod.lol
Well for Man Utd a slow window one 2nd team goal keeper in some young ones out on loan.
Next year any where from 5 to 10 first team players out. And what kids will bully there way to the first team rotation and who will be purchased for the next run at CL glory. Right now with the current mid field I just don’t see them beating Barca The Semis for the CL and a run for the BEPL and let’s win the FA cup lads!!!!!!
Any news on Morrison’s troubles?
@Tony , hi mate, yes he will, be breaking out in sweat.Its class, he will be pouting more than ever.
Ohhh Fuck of Matt, just cos you have Rissoto, you toff. lol
fucking hell Smartalex …enough of dictionary corner …i,m getting a headache…..
Fuck off I’m as working class as the next prawn sandwich eater
Roberto Carlos to West Ham?
you fucking tell him Redders….fucking sloan ranger …. eating rissotto……….
PACKET RICE IS SHITE AINT IT….LOL
my missus’s dumperlings were ace…. as was her cassyrole ‘n’all….burp….
TonyBee
Should old acquaintance be forgot, and never brought to mind? Should old acquaintance be forgot, and old lang syne?
@ Matt. good reply, I just munch on (JansDad) Haggis Neeps and tatties mate.
This is getting nerve Biting waiting to hear who we sign, on Talk Shite, mind Collymoron is doing the programme. I think we might fo for Scott Parker, thats what i was told, he arrived in Manchester this evening, a source told me. lol
For lunch I had organic free range heritage pig. So tasty we made a BBQ pulled pork yesterday and I have left overs today!!!
Scott Parker would have been a good signing 5-6 years ago maybe……
zibbie – Stop telling porkies.
what the fuck Zibbie, organic and pulled pork.Hmmm Sweet.That sounds sexual. lol
I bet if I called it rice with prawns it would satisfy your proletarian ideals lol, sorry about that chaps, it’s a bit like taking an ok striker, Carroll and calling him a 35 million pound superstar instead of a panic buy cos LFC are crapping themselves at again missing out on the CL
i’m pullin my pork just hinking about……just wondering if it was one i done at work in the abbytoir……
@ Tony i agree he would have been great, that driving midfielder, maybe just not United Class, but you get what i was “Driving ” at.
Who would you like us to sign, in your fantasy? Prob the wrong question to ask you and mention fantasy! lol
right boys i,m off …….got early start in the mawnig …..night all
back on tomozz to diss every fucker…..zzzzzz
Buy Scott Parker, he can keep Hargreaves company lol.
@ Tony nighter’s, you are turning into a right bitch. no kisses? You are just a two timer, you abbotoir killer you.lol
See ye mate on here the Morros night for the Villa game. Its gonna be brill.
Am off tae.awa get a few Swallies.
Carroll 35M …. Little Pea Priceless
People, I think we are reading a bit too much into Torres being in West London. Maybe he is there to audition for a part in the remake of the ‘Rock Horror Picture Show’. Fucking Drag artist.
Am I right in thinking chelsea can only register one of luiz and torres? Who would you rather replace one of the best stri ters in the world or one of the worst crybabys?
The thick geordie is a joke dippers getting relegated for sure. Suarez is class but needs a team around him who’s gonna give him the ball? Maxi? Hahahaha
How long til he ends up at chelsea?
On a better note will the crazy bristolian get the best out of pieman reid? And that puncheon knows where the net is. If they keep pie man adam they could kick on!
when we sell rooney we can be smug…
Heheheheh Funny to see Torres showing 5 fingers in liverpool…. Where he will keep those fingers when he is playing in Chelsea…. Torres Beware mate JT wud knock ur Girl
willierednut wins
check and mate.
I guess I wouldn’t mind so much about footballers whoring themselves out to the highest bidder, so long as they were honest about it. It’s the self-righteous professions of loyalty that irk me the most.
Torres will be on 180k a week. @devilsadvocate That’s right mate. They have a choice of picking Luiz or Torres for the champions league. No brainer, It has to be the lady boy.
It’s done. Torres is a rent boy.
terry’s bit on the side
have sky sports confirmed wille
Ulster Red – It’s confirmed mate. 50 million
Ulster Red, you mentioned contacting costas on fb. Are you able to send/post a short message?
Andy Carroll done and dusted 35.5 million.
smartalex
yea no problem, what would you like me to say?
Their is no value in the market TM
This is what it means to be United
Watch whilst everyone shits themselves trying to catch us up
We have a title to win and no fucker is going to stop us
Since the window is closed who dye reckon Fergie tried to sign? He said he tried to sign someone this window!
Thanks Ulster Red, here is the message, there are no typos:
Four Costas’
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Torres never played with a Liverpool armband. The armband said, “You’ll never walk alone” yes. But thats a Moto used as a tribute to the Madrid Bombings. Either way, HAHA scouse cunts. Karma.
And the scousers call Berb a waste of money……. Carroll doesn’t even deserve to suck his Berb’s cock
What you reckon of the rumour that Fergie made a deal to pick Charlie Adams up in the summer that turned out to be a win / win for Blackpool and Adams so they could turn the Scousers down?
smartalex
ill pass it on now mate.
MG – I don’t think SAF will be laughing at all these deals mate. He’ll take it on board and already be potting for next season, to keep us at the top. I just hope the Glazers step up to the plate and give him some money. We don’t need a lot, just a tweak here or there. A keeper and top midfielder will be enough for us in the summer.
Obertan demands shock exit from Manchester United…..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1352318/Manchester-Uniteds-Gabriel-Obertan-demands-shock-exit.html
wtf?
Top o the norn to ya!
If someone gives you a thousand quid for a Lada why on earth do you immediately go out and spend 850 quid on a fucking trabant.
19>18
Luiz signed for Chelsea and Spurs tried to get Charlie Adam, couldn’t beat the dead line.
Kings. Hello mate. Great posts and spot on. Fucking dowie and cascarino sounding like two drunks banging on about how adam must be gutted that he won’t be waking up tomorrow in london and playing for fucking redknapp. Who does the cunt think he is making all these sly last ten minute deals? Cockney wideboy scum. Also saying how the rentboys can now overturn united AND the tranny score the winner in the european cup final. Fucking jokers. All torres wil do is cause unrest as drogba or anelka are gonna be dropped at some stage each as he won’t play all three. Well see if the chavs can overturn a ten point united lead. Now with park back valencia due back rooney to find form and hernandez and berba scoring for fun. The fucking idiots now saying they have the best back four with the signing of luiz. Yeah funny tim vickery was saying he was having a poor season. It will take him till next season too settle. Todays dealings with the rentboys and vermin just smacks of desperation. The like of tiny tears and fwank won’t like the fact the ladyboy will be the highest earner. The game today is fucked.
Berba 4
No one puts in a transfer request as the window closes. Anyway he’s played a role this season, why leave after the work and before the payback? I think we’ll see more and more of him.
well the first thing that comes to mind is desperate times call for desperate measures,no question the dippers and rentboys are desperate teams trying to salvage a season thats gone south.both are paying a huge premium panic buys don’t normally work,we’ll just have to wait and see.
This is by no means confirmed but Andy Carroll supposedly text Newcastle fan and fanzine editor Steve Wraith to say, “I’m gutted to be leaving my home town club, i was told to go. I didn’t want to leave that’s why I signed a 5 year deal. I was pushed out of the door.”
@willie … yeah, was thinking about it today and I reckon a “tweak here and there” is about right, a middie and a keeper like you said. I won’t go into names — pointless me speculating names as I only ever see the games on TV, and they are only our games too (I might watch maybe 1 or 2 non-United games a year). Even watching a keeper on the box, you can see the shot-stopping, but hard to judge ball distribution when you can’t see what’s happening up-field. So I’ll comment on positional needs in general terms, but that’s it.
I reckon we are sorted for strikers, and for widemen, and for defenders (assuming no-one leaves in a hurry) … Rafael already looks the goods on the right and I’ve no doubt Fabio will replicate that on the left when he gets enough opportunity. And I think Evans and Smalling have shown enough to give confidence they’ll grow into their positions. VDS leaving makes a new keeper obvious.
Not sure what we need in the midfield. We’ve got Cleverly to come back, and I think Ando will develop into our energy player. DentonDavey has suggested Rooney could/should move into the central mid, and that could be interesting (could also be a fucking disaster). Anyway, we need *something* there, I am just not sure what exactly, and like I said, I’m not going to throw any names into the ring.
Berba 4 England
Sounds like a very strange bit. Mail is not very creditable. Will have to see if it gets supported elsewhere. We will see.
tbh i dont blame them both that much for moving. torres is moving to one of the best clubs in the world (yes, i am a united fan!) who are arguebly going to challenge for the title if they pull their socks up. As for Carroll, he’s moving from a club possibly battling relegation to a big club (just being realistic here, I hate the cunts). So i can’t really blame them. its not like they did a rooney and wanted to move from one of the best clubs to a shitter one is it?
despite winning the double last year chelsea annonced a 71 mill loss,just spent 71 mill on 2 players,i don’t get how teams that overspend are going to cope when the fair play rules come in.its not going to get any better for chelsea they’ve had the glory years and still run at a loss each year,fucking madness.
Telegraph is speculating that our March replay with CSKA London may have to be moved
till May. Setting up the posibility of 2 meetings in the month.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8294042/Chelsea-fixture-crisis-could-force-them-to-play-Manchester-United-in-Premier-League-double-header.html
A potential 12 pointer month v the Chaves.
Think will do them anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHlm_Vk5aBQ&feature=player_embedded
ladyboys interview
hope andy carroll knows that girls hit back in liverpool….
Tryder. Chelsea aren’t a big club or one of the best in the world. They are a horrible smalltime club. Trotting out lines and giving it large when they are five points clear that youth is the policy and all these young stars. First sign of trouble and they fuck the kids off and get the russians millions out. That is no long term solution. No strategy. No plans in place. Just desperation. No they are a horrible club mate.
Apparently OBertan demanded to be transfer listed?
That Obertan story is so funny! Lets hope Spurs put in a nice bid…
So Torres is joining a big club now? what can you say
Fuck off redknapp. Saying rentboys could well catch us. They will get beat by brucies boys tomorrow.
Did Carroll really hand in a transfer request? I never heard of it.
I thought it was a case of an offer that was too good to turn down by Newcastle.
Even the fat bastard Mike Ashley knows that 35 mil is outrageous.
@King Eric, i agree with you that they are a horrible club, i go against nearly everything they stand for, mostly their transfer policy, but you can’t argue they are a big club. They’ve won the premiership 3 times and came 2nd in the champions league, you can hardly be a small time club when you do that. Don’t get me wrong, I hate the cunts along with liverpool.
Redknapp is one of them people that just agrees with everything, he seems to like every player – no wonder they were trying to buy everyone
Fernando Torres quote”I wanna play for the biggest clubs in Europe” thats why i am here?. To play in the Champions league.
Well he got something right. Liverpool a selling Club? to the , the Club with no history.?
Marvelous. the story rolls on , and on
good timing by obertan…
Tony Starks – He’s not joining United mate.
think obertan realises he’s just not good enough to make the grade at utd simple as that
I never have been a big fan of Obertan. I would like all of you to look back at posts a year ago. So many of you wanted to cut Nani and make Obertan our new star. What the fuck has he done since? Let him go
its the daily mail, wouldn’t believe a word of it, especially considering they found out at 1 minute past the deadline………..
Obertan wants out? Gutted! The lad needs games and it doesn’t look like he’s gonna get games at United.
I personally dont think Obertan has got what it takes. Valencias back soon. Parks back sooner. Rooney will play more games on the left. Nearly everyones fit. I think he realises hes not going to get a look in. Possibly against Crawley but even he realises plays well = expected, plays shit = end of top flight career. Its a no win situation.
Let the boy go, next year we have Cleverley and Wellbeck back and both of them are handy on the left and will get the Carling cup and FA Cup games. Obertans done and dusted.
Those quotes from Torres and Caroll do look pretty damning. But those guys have got to where they are by being ambitious and they aren’t going to let sentiment get in the way of their career.
It’s easy to go all misty-eyed about loyal players like Scholes and Giggs but they signed as youngsters for the biggest club in the Premiership and kept winning trophy after trophy. They never had to think about leaving, there was nowhere to go that was better.
yeah gotta figure obertan is well down the pecking order even more so next year,anyone know whats going on with bebe haven’t heard much latlely about him
The Obertan signing was very strange anyway, he did nothing for a year and went on loan to a poor team and didn’t do much… then suddenly we go in with a 3.5mill bid – even their manager was surprised by the offer.
But he’ll never get the chance here to develop, especially as he’s played in all these different positions… feel sorry for the kid
i hope we can beat Chelsea 5-0. Really gutted with them. no class at all.
Guys, when you go to our match against them at OT and at Stamford Bridge, please put up a sign “Torres, are you sure your wife is not with John Terry?” or something similar..
He has stamina issues as well. He always looked fucked after every run he made. Not a bad player, but maybe not suited to the premiership, like Veron.
RE Obertan,
1. it the Mail for Ch*ist sake!
2. He is 21 and has pace to burn. If he wants to learn from Giggs and Valencia, he should stay.
3. If he wants to go, the god speed, but this seems a bit odd, the timing.
Obviously, we have until the summer to see how this one develops.
Not a key player, but not one without prospects.
on Giggs winning our official best player award, congratulations to Giggs.
but how the f*ck did Rooney get into top10???
i am not worried one bit about what liverpool have to offer. they are no better off than this morning. they got Luis Suarez who was expected to partner torres. torres leaves and they make a knee – jerk signing to please the fans. signing andy carroll for 35 million pounds ( that’s more than what Barcelona paid for David villa).
the only transfer i fear is that of Torres to Chelsea. they become a whole lot stronger and we still have to play them TWICE this season. and also we now have to world class strikers to worry about when we go to west london in March. we must be in tit top shape by march 1 to have any chance of smashing chelsea. just my opinion.
StateSideAussie @ 23:29: ” DentonDavey has suggested Rooney could/should move into the central mid, and that could be interesting (could also be a fucking disaster).”
Sure, it could be a disaster BUT with so much strength and variety in the strike-force, it seems that it is a logcal move. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
The thing is, how do you get the best players onto the pitch most of the time ? WayneRooney has been a shadow of last year’s self but he is still a bloody good footballer. If he’s not going to be sold in the summer – and I still think that that might be part of the deal that got MrAmbition to sign a new contract in November – then it becomes imperative to figure out how to make the best use of this asset.
Let’s not forget that it took two years of experimentation and patience to get DimitarBerbatov into a groove. The key word here is “experimentation” – of course, he was never tried out at left back but SAF had fiddled and tweaked his team to find a way to get the best out of Dimmy. Once he was stationed central AND forward then there was end-product from the silky skills. Maybe it will require a similar period of tinkering to find a way to make the best use of WayneRooney and still give playing time to Nani, Chicharito, and Dimitar Berbatov who have all made the case that they should not be dropped or trifled with.
Turning to the other events of the day, I agree with King Eric (@ 23:23) that adding the LadyBoy to the RentBoyz forward line might be a case of subtraction-by-addition. The notion that the addition of the LadyBoy will spark the RentBoyz into “title contention” is pure fantasy. Both Drogba and Anelka are notoriously moody guys and they won’t be happy sharing time and getting their noses pushed out of joint.
But, more to the point, it’s downright amusing to see that both LiverPoo and Chel$ki have gone for attacking players when their defences are so unreliable. Very few championship teams – in any sport – are built on a weak foundation. This is especially the case with the KopSukkers’ assemblage of journeymen, has-beens, and past-its. The problem with the RentBoyz is that a lot of them are cruising on their reputations – Ca$hley ‘ole has been directly responsible for giving aways games to Sunderland, Everton, and someone else (!) while EBJT has been equally dire and is now waling wounded. Plus, they’ve not got a right back unless they play Ivanovic there and he prefers to play in the center; and, to boot, Michael Essien is a shadow of his former self – is another one of those West African guys whose stated-age is “misleading” ?
The big winners today were the clubs that did nothing – UTD and TheArse but sadly for TheArse they have lost their best player for a month or six weeks so Samir Nasri won’t be able to play Superman when they get eviscerated by Barcelona.
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;et me also add that loyalty has gone out of football a long time ago.. i have never expected anyone to be loyal to any club anymore. if i was a player i’d probably want triple my salary ( which is what liverpool gave carroll). things happen let’s get over it.
denton davey – I don’t think Chelsea signing Torres will hurt them in anyway. will it give them a boast in the title race? No ones knows yet, but It won’t hinder them and he can play in the champions league, which is why Chelsea decided to pay the big money now.
@Denton … oh, don’t get me wrong, I am intrigued by the Rooney idea and I think it’s well worth the experiment. And one of the neat things is that SAF can try that sort of experiment without having to commit himself — if it doesn’t work, then try something else. Especially with Rooney, who’s flexible enough. What I mean is, moving players around when they’re already on your books, is less risky (in terms of investment) than going out and paying a squillion quid for someone who’s totally specialized but might not work out and either isn’t willing or isn’t able to be flexible about it. Cheers!
Liverpool, (a team under Shankly whom I had a massive respect for) are now the laughing stock of the planet. Carroll is not a Shearer! Who is going to get the ball to him – the same crew who did not get the ball to Torres?
Chelsea may though have bought a title and the basis of a new team – what they bought with Torres and the gueser may just have laid a foundation for their future – they also did buy Ramires who I reckon we should have gone for.
Anyway we will deal with it – we always do under SAF.
Why would we get involved with this transfer insanity – we have a team / we have players who still wear “the shirt” and we have a decent youth system. We are head and fucking shoulders above the rent boys and vermin in the one thing that counts – INTEGRITY. We will achieve success due to our ability to manage players + the X factor + SAF
Ozil – Benzema two names always mentioned above frequently and etc – brilliant but need acres of space to look decent. If they were quality we would have gone for them. We did not – therefore they ae not rated by our coaching staff.
I watched a Brazilian game last evening Santos v Sao Paulo. Quite a few premier castoffs – Ronaldinho – some turd that played for City (elano?). Game at a snails pace – there is not a lot that meet our standards. Every player looked great – but had acres of space. Even I at 59 could do the tricks (well maybe not)
The point being that you can spend a shit load of cash and you may just buy shit – look at City. Where were Chelsea the past four seasons – remember they got two or three good decisions in their favour last year and we had no centre backs for several games & we only lost the league by one shithouse point.
Do not press any panic buttons – we have a succesion plan. Furthermore we will get rid of the Glazers – as rumour goes this side of the pond. Investment will take place in youth and development – that is what we do.
WE ARE MANCHESTER UNITED.
19/4 – 2011
denton and willie … I think Denton’s right about fragile egos at the rent boys being ruffled by the arrival of Torres, but I also reckon Anelka will be off in summer anyway. He’ll be 32 by then, he’s already played for nine clubs, and his scoring rate has never been all that impressive. Not even in Turkey (16 goals in 57 matches). Seems like the rent boys have taken the view that Torres wouldn’t be any cheaper in summer, and since they can get him into the CL now, why not? Especially with a Russian daddy prepared to open his fat wallet. Personally, I think 50mil is laughable, but not as laughable as 35mil for Carroll. But it’s their problem!
I agree that the Chelsea thing may well not work this season. Drogba and Anelka will be pissed off and neither have the class to agree to rotation -unlike our players under S.A.F.
I’m still not sure we will buy big in the Summer – Adam might be worth a go as a replacement -not for Scholes but for Gibson. Probably a keeper.
Getting rid of The Glazers remains the top priority imo.
Fernando Torres takes swipe at Liverpool: At Chelsea I can play at the level I am supposed to
@Denton Dave.. alright mate?
Yeah, I completely agree with you.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.. who is the closest player, who has the closest chance of matching Scholesy’s touch, vision and goals? I’ll tell you who, step forward Mr Wayne Rooney. The man is made to boss our midfield with his physique and vision.. yes he isn’t as talented as Scholesy was and is, but Rooney no doubt has the potential to fill Scholes’ boots in our midfield engine.
Some may argue that Rooney doesn’t deserve to lace Scholesy’s boots let alone take over from where he left off, fair point. But I honestly think that Rooney is the man to take over from Scholes and boss our midfield like he does for us on so many occasions when he drops deep.
Summary= Wayne Rooney is Paul Scholes’ natural replacement. I hope SAF plays him as a midfielder at some point, he would be fantastic as our playmaker and with Chich&Berbs banging them in up front as well as Rooney’s contribution from midfield (think fat frank) we would be laughing. Rooney in the middle with Valencia and Nani on the wings and a good holding midfielder to anchor our defense we’d be pretty bloody lethal. Well.. one can dream eh?! JMHO
I used to think it was just about Beckham with you but seriously Scott, thats modern football, one of ours is going to do it again as well, its just something you have to live with. Footballers say all this shit about never wanting to leave because everytime they have a bad game people question their commitment instead of tactics/form. If fans continue behaving stupidly, so will players.
Andy Carroll 35 Mil!??!?!??!? give me a break! jesus
35 million?! Lol! Don’t be silly! Le coq sportif ,umbro,shell suits , that mike ashley has been mugging scousers all his life!!!!!!hahahahaha!
Am I the only one who thinks these two transfers are perfect.
A guy from Newcastle with well recorded problems, joining the thug at Liverpool (plus a dodgy foreigner).
A ladyboy from Liverpool joining a bunch of Glam tarts and horn dogs (he better keep his back to the wall).
Fergie will have had the most comfortable day ever, sitting around thinking who should i play 2moz against villa, i think people are forgetting that we do have a game today, along with chelsea, but ancelotti has only been thinking about signing torres and luiz, sunderland will fancy there chances against chelsea tonight, and i hope they smash the horrible cockney cunts, we are 10 points ahead of chelsea and who ever thinks we are gonna throw that lead away needs there heads examining, this title is ours and the reason we havnt signed anyone bar lindegaard is because we have the strongest squad in the league, which is proven by the fact we are top and still unbeaten, god i love this club
Not perfect but they make some sense.
LiverPoo were able to flog Babel and Torres for just-about-enough money to purchase Suarez/Carroll who are 24 and 22, big-and-little. and probably make about the same per week as the two they sold.
Torres isn’t cup-tied so Abramovitch must have realized that this is the last roll of the dice with the over-the-hill-gang – he wants to win the CL (so cruelly snatched from his grasp by the predecessors of the ‘crap invincibles’ when the great leader, EBJT, fucked up) – and they have the small matter of qualifying for the CL again for next year, which comes with big financial considerations.
The Chel$ki situation – and it’s alter ego the Spurs situation – has plenty of interest attached. What do the RentBoyz do if they finish fifth and lose out on the CL money ? with an aging core of players ?? If Spurs fail to finish fourth then who do they have to sell – Modric ? Bale ?? Van Der Vaart ??? The stakes are really high – for both of them.
thisistheone @ 2:30: “ancelotti has only been thinking about signing torres and luiz, sunderland will fancy there chances against chelsea tonight, ”
Really interesting point. Let’s hope for the worst for them in Sunderland, that center of civilization of luxury living.
pool get another aquilani or collybore lol
Any idea whether this one is true?
“Obertan hands in shock transfer request”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1352318/Manchester-Uniteds-Gabriel-Obertan-demands-shock-exit.html
Some of my Liverpool mates have gone quiet in the past few hours. Yea, the one’s who wore the Torres jersey on casual Fridays in the office. Soon I’ll be seeing ‘CARROLL’ on their backs like they’ve been wearing them forever. I’ll stick with my ‘Giggs’ jersey for now…& ever.
The only big player we need to buy in future is Bale.. And any of the barca midfielder.
As much as I hate Liverpool,I wish Torres had stayed there because Chelsea are a bigger challenge to us and have to admit he is a quality player when on his game.
this is totally unrelated but HOW THE HELL does Rooney make our top ten greatest players of all time ahead of DENNIS LAW , DUNCAN EDWARDS , ANDY COLE, BRYAN ROBSON , STEVE BRUCE, THE LIST IS FUCKING ENDLESS!!!!
Imagine if 12 months ago you’d have told a dipper they’d sell Torres for, effectively, Carroll plus 15 million!
Talk about panic buying, at least when Fergie spends big he does it on proven/risk free players.
Rio, Veron, Berba, all proven world class players (Veron didn’t work out but he was 3rd only to Zidane and Scholes as best play making midfielders in Europe when we signed him). Rooney was big money for a teenager, but was sheer class, already established in the England team and had just been player of the tournament at Euro 2004, even now, 7 years later, most people still think England would have won the thing had Rooney not got injured.
Ruud, ok, bit of a risk as he had only played in a weak league and had had a serious knee injury, but he had scored a fuck ton of goals in Holland.
Carroll has scored just 14 top flight goals in his entire career, and only performed well for 4 months at this level!
He might do well for them, but he could just as easy do nowt and end up as one hell of an expensive misfit, though sure when they have Carroll, Suarez, and Kuyt in the team up front(combined cost 69 million) and we have Hernandez, Rooney, and Berbatov(combined cost 66 million) they’ll still cry about how they can’t compete with us financially when we hammer them!
I really hope Bale doesn’t come near United, overrated and will undoubtedly be overpriced. For what? 1 Premier League assist all season? He beat a half fit Maicon in and Inter team without Julio Cesar, without Zanetti and without Walter Samuel backing Maicon up. He has been good, yes. But nowhere near close to justifying the hype around him
Caroll leaves me broken hearted. i bought him in Fifa 11 to play for man utd, and he goes to Scousers.
Caroll, how could you do this to me
@ united
100000000 % agreed, mate.
@ kunal
10000000000 % disagree. barca midfielders? i’d take scholes over iniesta + xavi at any time. we just need to produce another ‘scholes’. anderson and in form fletch is good enough for us actually. we dont do any big signings, we produce the big players. plus, we’d have cleverly in the next season.
step up youu, cleverleyyhhh!
Xavi + Iniesta I hate to say, I would take them over all our midfielders. Those two are different class. If we had talent like them to play with Scholes, then who knows.
David villa for 34 and Torres for 50…plain stupid….both players over-rated……the thing about torres is he gets going in big games and we have 2 against Chelsea….Torres and Drogba v/s Rio and Vidic would be fascinating…put in Smalling or Evans and I’m not happy then…but what are the chances of Rafael taking the piss out of torres like he did for Tevez…..now that is gonna be what u say awesome
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Manchester-United-striker-Dimitar-Berbatov-reveals-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-still-has-the-fear-factor-over-his-players-article686797.html
What a club, what a manager and what a bunch of true and genuine stars
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look there is absolutely no need for panic buying just because Liverpool and Chelsea are buying. it would make no sense whatsoever. we should ONLY buy what we actually need at the moment and that is a world class Midfielder nothing more.
Scholes > Xabi + Iniesta multiplied
@dannysoya (4:29)
Totally agreed, sadly though I assume this was an on line poll where by the majority of participants would have been from the younger generation…. I could easily make up a list of at least 20 or so players ahead of Rooney in that list……… May be in 8 or 9 years time he could make the top ten IF he attains the success
heard about obertan. what happened to him ? doesnt think he can make it here ?
@CedarsDevil
Im a united fan too mate but thats taking things a bit far, that midfield of Barcas is insane, they never lose the ball, always find each other. Seriously one of the greatest teams of the modern era.
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I am not arguing that Barca are a great team but I was honest in my opinion about Scholes vs Xabi & Iniesta
Torres to Chelsea..
This can only turn out into Sheva v2…sad sad
Fair enough your opinion, Personally my ranking is Iniesta > Scholes = Xavi
@Cedars
Rooney in the top 10 is a joke, but Bryan Robson and Denis Law not finding a place in the top 10 is a scandal.Who were the people voting in this poll? Schoolkids?
And this is why i never welcome any kind of billionaires to our club. This shit will happen. Thanks to the glazers, we are in debt, yes, but we’re never gonna spend crazy money like this. Even if one day, the glazers decides to sell our club to say a Qatari billionaire or any Asian tycoon, lets just pray that we’re only gonna spend money when it is needed.
Honestly think we should stick to this ‘not-buying-a-big-name-players’ policy. Even if when the day SAF leave the club, hope the new manager will stick to young players and develop them. Whether the young players turns out good or bad, that’s another story. I’ts totally beyond football when any club spend 30 or 50 mil for any players in January. Ridiculous.
@ cedars
agreed with you. i can even say scholes > iniesta + xavi times three.
iniesta and xavi is a passing-and-run type. the way they play are like fabregas. like gerrard. you can put rooney in the midfield and within a few months, rooney can be the next zidane on the midfield, i can say that.
but scholes plays from deep, he’s up to defending more than attacking. his passing are from deep. unlike iniesta and xavi. you can find the next iniesta and xavi when they retire. but not scholesy scholes.
even when scholes’ at his critical age like right now, id still choose him over iniesta and xavi at any time.
There’s no doubt in the past 3 years or so Xavi and Iniesta have been the best midfielders by some distance. But Scholes is Xavi+Iniesta in his prime and maybe 5 years from now we’ll know if Xavi and Iniesta can match him. 2006-07 season after his operation Scholes completely owned the PL and if not for that Milan game probably Scholes would have got the award ahead of Kaka…he averages more than 30 games a season even at this age and 90% of those game he owns. I
There’s one thing that probably goes against Rooney to fill boots which will be left someday by Scholes and it is first touch. He’s had some great touches but overall in crowded midfield he doesn’t have that composure that Scholes. It’s a case of someone being in a league of its own.
Just saw the top ten list.Wayne Rooney @10,David Beckham @7.I mean who voted for this.There’s no Ole ffs, Bryan Robson,Brucey.
http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Andy-Carroll-says-Newcastle-forced-him-out-for-t?urn=sow-314956
90+Until we Score
Just like dela mentioned earlier seems this poll was mainly voted for by school kids. I have not seen the list but any top 10 with out Robson is a joke
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I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree on this one mate…. I would not replace Scholes in his prime with any midfield player that ever existed and you can throw in Zidane and Platini to that mix
So Chelsea have bought Sideshow Bob for 21 million? Alrighty then…
A comparison:
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6715482,00.html
http://goldtent.net/wp_gold/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sideshowbob.gif
Different note, Daily Mail reports on Obertan handing in a transfer request. They say that he “does not belive he can break through in the United ranks, and wishes to go back to France in the summer.”
Don’t know if it is for real, but I for one hope Obertan stays for atleast another season and works his socks of. Still remember that sick assist to Owens second against Wolfsburg! And the lad just has that x-factor that we love to see in our wingers. I’m sure Fergie will sort his mind out, if he believes he can be united quality.
Andy Carroll: “I’m gutted to be leaving my home town club; I was told to go. I didn’t want to leave that’s why I signed a five year deal. I was pushed out of the door.”
I don’t know why, but I trust him
Torres is a cunt
catotraa, I can hardly see Obertan being a quality player. whenever he is on the pitch, he fucks it all up, with crosses landing behind the goal, passes misses their destination… he was cheap, he didn’t work out, he doesn’t show respect and most of all, he doesn’t trust in himself either.
Carroll was forced out because Newcastle wanted the money a reporter on 5live said he was talking to a Premiership football chairman and he was offered Andy Carroll by newcastle before the lIverpool interest. He also added that part of the deal was that Carroll had to also hand in a transfer request to it passed more of the blame to him rather then the club for him leaving.
Reading this article i guess it worked??
Yes, I hear that Carroll was actually forced out of Newcastle.
He’s now a blue he’s ditched the reds, Torres, Torres.
And now the scousers want him dead, Torres, Torres.
50 mil, what a joke, just to see the Spaniard choke.
Fernando Torres Carraghers going to cry.
250000 for Phil and then upped to 500000, Moyes is right that is fekkin disrespectful. Ok Phils not young but he still offers a few quality years in the premier league and has a wealth of experience. Torettes twitching cockney poe faced prick Redknapp has gone right down in my books, what a cheeky cunt. What would he offer for Giggs if he thought he could nabb him, no long term contract, 37, would he have the cheek to offer a couple of hundred thousand, if he wants to spend that type of money then maybe he should bring Jamie Redknapp out of retirement.
Scouse buster not in top ten….lol!!!
top 10 for me…1. cantona 2. robson 3. keane….on and on
btw i start watching united in early 80′s. if based on Sir Bobby interview i will put duncan edwards in no 2 spot.
Fergie’s strategy of sending clubs back where they belong (Championship) has produced some extraordinary things. He must be in stitches watching Rent Boys and Dippers spending 200M+ just to fight over third and fourth place in the PL.
On to the Villa game please, three points is a MUST.
Seems as though Carroll was forced out as soon as the directors saw the money at play:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/874125/liverpool%27s-andy-carroll-forced-out-of-newcastle-united?&campaign=rss&source=soccernet&cc=5739
Two words, ladies and gents: MONEY TALKS.
His armband lied he was not a red, Torres Torres
He’s just a rent boy like the rest, Torres, Torres.
In our backs he plunged his knife,
I hope John Terry shags his wife!
Fernando Torres, Chelsea’s latest CUNT.
If I was Carroll and I didn’t want to leave why comply with them and write a transfer request. Newcastle rejected two bids. He could of made it abundantly clear that he was not leaving refusing to write a transfer request.
@asherNYC
Its easy to blame owners and state they are ‘Money Grabbers’ but at the end of the day the the Premiership position is worth more to Newcastle than the £35mill (or the £40mill its said to rise to) and Carroll being there and not being there could be the difference between them being in the Prem next season or being in the Championship.
I suspect there would have been a tipping point where the money was too much to turn down but they hadn’t reached that point as Liverpool HAD to sign him else the fans would have been demanding the new owners heads (and they needed to also persaude Gerrard and Reina that the club had a future) and would have upped their bid again. It was Carroll that swung it and he can bleet on about being forced out but he forced Newcastle to take 35mill when Liverpool would have been back with a larger offer.
After all you don’t waste 5 hours by rejecting a bid when time to sign a replacement is very limited only to then accept the same offer. Those 5 hours may have been enough for Newscastle to get a striker in and maybe a couple of other players. Carroll (and probally his agent) saw the money, relised he was never going to get that at Newcastle and forced Newcastles hand knowing full well that Newcastle fans are so deluded that the blame would land on Ashley who can’t do anything right in their eyes even when he does what the fans demand.
@Sir Ryan Giggs
And everyone assumes Suarez will be a hit based on his strike rate, but lets look at the league that strike rate is in and look at some of the players who had great strike rates in it
- Kezman
- ALfonso Alves
- Huntelaar
- Danijel Pranjić
- Dirk Kyut
- Marcus Berg
- Salomon Kalou
- Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink
The last striker that came out of the Dutch League with a good scoring record and has cut it in a top level league is Ruud (Or maybe Van Persie but even his scoring levels are made to look better by his European goals. Plus Van Persie got out of the league and got a proper football education at a young age)
The Dutch league isn’t the league it was when Ruud was playing let alone at its peak when it was a top league still and it makes strikers look better than they are. Suarez could make it, he has looked fairly good for his country but his scoring record is irrelivant.
@StatesideAussie
TBH I have said for years that I felt Rooneys role was an Attacking Midfielder due to the way he used to always drop so deep. Last season I changed that opinion as he showed he could player higher and wasn’t so eager to drop deep to help out
@FletchTHEMAN
Seeing as Chelsea cancelled the original game for no good reason imho they shouldn’t be allowed to rearrange the game to suit them. Even if it meant playing two games in two days it shouldn’t be moved again as its their own fault.
Its bad enough that they were able to put off playing a tough match when they were in bad form but to move it further back allowing them time to find form and get their new players to gel is just not on
Who give sa flying fuck about Barca? Why are people wanking over fucking Xavi and Iniesta? Its a fuckign United blog. La Liga is a piss take. Fuck Barcalona. Xavi is a great player and I may get stick for this but I happen to think Iniesta is a bit over rated.
Ferguson knows what Torres can do so he will not be taking him lightly, Ferguson wanted to sign him before so he knows how good he is. Plus whenever Torres plays against Vidic he is a nightmare to handle. I think if Ferdinand is fit then Ferdinand should mark Torres as he kept him quite when he first played against us. All the other times Torres was able to score was either because Vidic could not keep or he got sent off for a stupid foul on Torres. When Drogba and Torres are at their best they are unplayable so Ferguson will not be taking their threat lightly and we will face a rejuvenated Torres.
Barsenal and Arcelona doters should post their views and themselves to another Republik,
poste haste.
smartalex
costas said he appreciates that and he will figure it out someday lol.
Ulster Red
Thanks for that. Perhaps next time you speak to him you could say that the
Four Costas’
should give him a clue.
Obertan…what can i say? He defintiely has talent, but tried to be too flashy at times. I constantly see him playing passes too strong or not being able to trap the ball properly when it comes to him and losing it.
Maybe it’s nerves, who knows. I can see him being great, just wish he would pull it together sometimes.
Scott you’re wrong about Andy Carroll, as i have heard from mates in Newcastle and the local press that he didn’t want to go. The board decided to accpet Liverpool’s second offer and told Carroll they had accpeted the bid. so get your facts straight! he didn’t lie. and you seem to automatically think that all players do that. get real Scott it’s not always black and white. as for Torres …i really don’t care. his
first love was Atletico Madrid. then Liverpool – last season spoke to him and said they would improve the squad and go for trophies. that hasn’t happened, he wanted to stay but realised he wont win anything with Pool, especially as they aren’t in the ECL and don’t look like getting in there.
People, players etc change their minds depending on the situation or circumstances. So stop with
the crap about Lying – you miss the point completely.
Ehm Scott. Little rushy to go out calling Carrol a liar there? Seen the txtmessages?
If men didnt lie, would there ever be a divorce, thus breaking all vows?? If the footballer says what is truly in his mind, he will be made a villain while still among his team mates, case in point, Wayne Rooney. Torres and Carroll have learnt well and dare not say anything to piss off the fans till they are far away from them (officially).
bro andy carrol was pushed to join liverpool he didnt hand a transfer request
@ L.F.C. At least if a burgler brake into Wayne’s home he can steel some medals! If the burgler brake into Torres & Caroll’s house all he can steel is the toaster and the kettle you moron !!!!
Rooney should join chelsea too,,,,,,,, yaaaaaay!!!!!! prob get 50 million and then we can buy a proper striker, maybe get ameobi and bendtner then we’d be talking awesome strikeforce suited to utds style. Bunch of MANCWANKBAGSCUM!!!!