I was immediately drawn to an article written by Terry Venables for The Sun entitled “Owen and JT are two of a kind“. It wasn’t because I am particularly fond of Venables or the tabloid paper but because I was intrigued as to how the two players could be alikened.
Whilst the initial reaction towards Owen wasn’t great, our feelings for the former Kop hero have warmed. For me personally, he’ll never be a favourite, but I hope he does well and I reckon I will be patient enough to see him prove himself at United. We all want him to score at Anfield but just scoring goals along the way to us winning our nineteenth title will do. Seeing Owen lifting that Premiership trophy, knowing Steven Gerrard will one day watch the footage with a few cans of Carlsberg, too pained to watch it on the actual day, is a happy enough thought for me.
But whatever we imagine to happen and whatever we hope to happen, it can’t be denied that Owen is a Judas cunt. In signing for United, his behaviour is far worse than Gabriel Heinze, Carlos Tevez or even Paul Ince. He is one of theirs, from their youth team and signing for United was simply forbidden. We may go on to like him, we may go on to appreciate what he achieves with us, but what he is doing is breaking an unwritten football rule.
I completely understand Owen’s motives though. Don’t forget he has been booed by the Anfield crowd since 2005 when playing for Newcastle. In contrast to the likes of Nicky Butt and Phil Neville who are always welcomed on their return, Liverpool fans haven’t really ever forgiven him for leaving to join Real Madrid. Whilst I wouldn’t ever boo David Beckham, I understand the feeling of resentment towards a player who has spent their career telling people they love your club, only to leave you for a club they regard to be “bigger”.
“In a perfect world I would stay my entire career. I am dreaming about that,” Owen said two months before he joined Real Madrid. “In an ideal world, and in the long term, I want to help Liverpool become the most successful club in the world again,” he’d said before that. But he seemed to sever his ties with Liverpool when he left for Real Madrid and they confirmed that by booing him when he came back to the Premiership the following season.
At Newcastle it appeared as though his career was over. Despite scoring 30 goals with 65 starts for the geordies, he seemed to have lost the love for the game, probably in the same situation Becks was when he joined LA Galaxy. But like AC Milan reminded Beckham what playing for a real club felt like, we’ve offered the same lease of life to Owen.
So, back to the Venables article. I was imagining the comparisons between the two English players to be along the lines of how they’ve both fucked over fans that loved them. Liverpool fans have been left hurting over Owen’s decision to join us, just like Chelsea fans should have been left hurting over Terry’s delay in rejecting City speculation.
Whilst the England captain claimed there was never any doubt over his Chelsea future, the stupid prick confessed to having “sleepless nights” over City’s offer. I know footballers aren’t well known for their intelligence, but if you’re going to play the loyalty card, at least have a good story! You can’t claim to have always been 100% committed to a club if the thought of £250k a week from a side not in any European competition kept you up at night. Chelsea repeated their stance almost daily that they were keeping him, so if he was just as sure that he was staying, why was he being kept up at night? Why didn’t he speak out immediately? You don’t have to be too intelligent to realise he was tempted to leave the club he claims he never would, simply because of money.
Liverpool had turned their backs on Owen and he was in dire need of saving his career. It was World Cup year and the only other club interested in him were Hull. Even if he did still feel loyalty towards Liverpool, he was stuck between a rock and a hard place, desperate to impress Capello ahead of South Africa. In contrast, Terry had no football reasons behind his “sleepless nights”. It was all about the money.
“It’s never been about a new deal for me,” he claimed, after revealing he would not be joining City. “But if the club come to me in the next few months I’ll sit down and talk to them.” After agreeing a contract worth £35m in total and £135k a week for the club he ‘loves’ in 2007, it now looks as though his ‘loyalty’ to Chelsea is worth a new £151k a week contract.
So why are Owen and Terry two of a kind? They both fucked over the club that developed them and made them who they are today. Right? Apparently not.
Venables seems to be think they’re ‘two of a kind’ because Owen is a new signing for United and Terry will ‘feel like’ a new signing for Chelsea. Hmm.
United will feel like they’ve landed a bargain… the same goes for Chelsea. Owen will earn £30k a week at United as a basic wage, with incentives for goals and appearances. Terry, who was tempted by City’s money, will earn more than five times that regardless of injuries and performances. Owen is a bargain, the same does not go for Terry.
alot of united fans where mift at ronaldo last season because of his tiny tears like actions when linked with madrid, they viva ronaldo song would be sang by most after he scored but not from start to finish during his 42 goal season, because a bit of respect had gone and a lot of faith went with it. Sir John Of Terry ,i believe, will and should experence the same next season. and withthe fact of his age the fact that he’s done nothing really since that pic of him was takin and the fact that he has back problems and is injury prone . i think alot a chelsea fans realised that they dont need him maybe he’s not all that they taught he was and should take the money and leave. Micheal Owen is at united for 100% his own reasons he wants the higheest level football he wants to play for england ,because i will be amazed if they dont win the world cup, he wants to win the english league.
but he’s respectful and fitting in nice and if he ,with rooney sir alex and berbatov, can help kiko and danny grow as strikers all the while scoring that all important 6th league goal he was well worth the gamble.
very true scott
owen may be hated by some United fans even now but we have to understand that he still can scre loads of goals if the chances are given
ok.he didnt scre against valencia but he good in good positions and i m sure it is only a matter of time bfre he finds the back of the net regularly.
as for the fact that he was an ex kop and shud have respected them it is so easy to say for assholes like robbie fowler that he shud nt have joined us.but wen he wud have been in this position anyone wud have taken this same decision to save their career.it is easy to say that but wen the moment comes hard to resist this temptation of reviving your career at the biggest club in the world.
anyways gone are the days of giggs scholes and neville.there is no more loyalty in the game.money is the dominant factor to which even the s called ‘loyal’players succumb in todays world
ghtt
good morning mate.
also 1 thing abt owen,dont doubt him a wounded tiger is always dangerous.he will want to make everyone eat the shit they were talking wen he joined united.
ghtt spot on mate.hope the likes of kiko welbeck and petrucci learn from the senior trio and make a bright future at United.
why petrucci wasnt on the pre season tour ill never know
too many srikers i guess.or maybe he has not yet developed to the level of kiko and welbeck and may take some more time.after all he is a year younger to them i think.
however good to hear that he is doing well in the reserves.will be a future star.
It was difficult to include him as well GHTT. My goodness, our squad is huge enough as it is! Don’t worry though. Kiko wasn’t in our pre season tour last year either and look what impact he made.
On topic, i have nothing against Owen as a man. If it was Fowler or McManaman, i would have blown my top off. Has he betrayed the dippers? I am not so sure. They turned on him too at some point. My dipper friend sung the song asking where Owen was in Instanbul for years.
Actually we can’t complain about their intelligence and loyalty. Who in the world don’t want to live a peaceful life? But you need money to have peaceful life. Of course it could tempt you. I don’t want to say i support them or other players for betraying their club but sometimes jealousy comes to us and we question their decision. It’s their life and we should get on with it.
Petrucci was injured at the end of last season and i think he still hasn’t fully recovered.
ghtt ye i don’t understand that, pettrucci looked class in what i seen of him last season, i c&ped emily’s video on so did your brother, hope you and coastas enjoyed the game
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lol didn’t no that
Lets start by stating the obvious. Terry Venables is a dickhead. He’s always been a dickhead, and this article just reinforces the fact. Owens and Terry might be seen as mercenaries, but there is a world of difference in them. Terry fucked over his own team to leave for a team that is well short of Chelsea both in quality and position. Owens fucked off from a poor liverpool team to join a team that has a strong pedigree in Europe. Yes, Madrid are vile scum, but they are successful scum (or at least they used to be when he joined them).
Today, Owen plays for united because he has a point to prove. The fact he has taken a significant pay cut and will play behind Wazza and Berba in the pecking order proves he is playing for footballing reasons. Has he crossed the forbidden line? I dunno…it’s been a long time since he played for Liverpool, and I’m sure had the fat waiter made an offer for him to play backup to Tranny boy he would have accepted. I’m under no illusion with why Owen is with united, and it’s not for his love of United, or the fans, or SAF…Micheal Owen plays for Micheal Owen. He always has. He’s a selfish little runt – both on field and off it. And that’s fine with me…as long as he does his job by staying fit and scoring goals.
I think united fans will warm to him if he helps them win. He might never become a hero, but so long as he gives his all, keeps his mouth shut and his head down all the while scoring 10-15 goals I doubt the fans will turn on him.
Terry however should be boo’d. He’s a sniveling little cunt who despite all his talk is a money grubbing whore. To hold his team to ransom for an extra 30k a month is deplorable. To come from the captain and someone who confesses to loving his club is even worse. Terry is the best example of the worst in football. The mercenary who will use the press and fans to get the extra buck.
Chavs who consider Terry a legend need to look at Ryan Giggs, Totti, Raul, Maldini. These men are true 1 club legends. There was never any doubt where these men would play and they never bleed their club for new contracts.
Hahahaha! Scott, is that bit about Terry having sleepless nights true? He really is a fucking idiot, it just contradicts everything he said before. Mind you, he always has come across a bit thick playing on the “Iron man” image from the media and mourinho. The most unnatural captain ive seen.
Loyalty has gone out of the window these days and players are running after money a la Tevez, Barry et al. but considering, £250k a week was one heck of an offer and anyone will loose sleep over it but for ‘Sir John of Terry’(brilliant name.ghtt, lol) who claims to have his heart at Chelsea n at Chelsea only, it really was a disgrace as he took ages to realise what he want to do.
Whilst talking about Owen, he isn’t here for money, this guy wants to revive his career in order to get his place back in the Ingurland setup. I must admit i was very reluctant at the idea of Owen playing for us but later realised we had nothing to lose. I’m still not wholly sure how this would pan out but i’m willing to reserve my reaction till end of the season.
What a silly money to pay for an overrated prat.
That is exactly what I have been saying all along about that bastard Terry, no matter how badly he behaves he will always be respected by idiots in this country. Now the most overrated English Manager in recent history has thrown his two penneths in. If a United player behaved in this way he will be condemned.
his heart is at chelsea?????
well the offer of a transplant from the arabs must have kept im awake for days.. oh it did,
John Terry, a pawn between sets of Oil barrons
Regarding the bit in the article where you say Owen will always be regarded as a ‘judas cunt’, is that really fair if the Liverpool fans booed him and essentially disowned him? I mean it’s not as if he’s done a Tevez, or even a Smudge. Smith even became a favourite of ours, despite being a Leedscum fan through and through, and being adored by the Leedscum fans. Whilst Owen has certainly done something highly unusual by joining us, I think Judas Cunt is a bit harsh.
Love the picture of John!
man..
i always believe ur right, be it about hatred for them dippers or the wastelanders or love for phil, nicky or becks… but i feel this is one stance of yours that i must regretfully be at odds with…
i know me saying this makes no diff to The Scott the Red, but since you appeal to such a wide spectrum and a huge number of united fans i feel calling Owen a Judas cunt is so unfair… bcuz it contradicts how wazza is our hero… how carrick is our monster midfielder…. how rio is our wall…. none of these guys were our products, phenomenally good when we pounced for them…
Owen may well be disliked by a lot of us but i feel it is the responsibility of someone of ur stature to ensure he is at least welcome with hope of cementing himself as a United Great if all goes well, in the years to come… branding him forever as Judas is just not right…
i cant wait for 2moz, hope its a exciting game like the west brom v newcastle game, anybody watch it?
ps ..
becks loves the club, fact.
becks would never call madrid bigger, fact.
Some of you goons that write on here. Owen is a Manchester United player, w’ who gives a **** if you dont like him because he used to play for liverfool? Get behind the lad, he plays for UNITED! If we had signed Stevie’innocent’ G would you have kicked off??
Grow up
I don’t know if its just me but i never rated Terry so high. He is a good defender not exceptional but as a person he is a despicable cunt. Owen will score goals. What i’d love the most is for him to score the winning goal at anfield and kiss the badge like that big time charlie Ince did. If that were his only goal for the season then it would be worth it
so what, im happy to have own at utd. that artical is like resenting to some girl you fucked because you hate her boyfriend.
owen not own, duh!
Devilton & aliasrns5: Spot on both of you.
Everyone can’t be a Giggs or G.Nev (I’m a fraid) and since he didn’t make the straight switch between the clubs I can’t feel that “Judas cunt” is called for. I’ll never wear his name on my shirt but he’s on the team sheet now and that’s the end of it as long as he behaves like a class player and don’t start talking crap.
And one more thing: I wouldn’t want him to kiss the badge against the dippers… that’s not classy. I even feel Roo is a bit over the top when he nets at Goodison. Don’t get me wrong, a celebration is always needed ’cause if you don’t like to score a goal then you shouldn’t be a striker. Giggs though, he can kiss the badge at Anfield how much he wants to… that’s just sweet but I think it’s not for Owen to get his old club riled up… leave that to the true reds!
And to add: Terry is a wanker, nuf said!
At last Scott, you have come up with a suitiable phrase for Owen …. judas cunt….. exactly, he has been brought up a dipper and will remember all them times when playing against us how he would have said of us in the changing rooms about how he hated us ete etc….
make no bones about it SAF has fucked up big time signing JudasCunt (his new nickname)as he is only here to get his dipper arse onto the England team bus again……
and to all those who still beleive he is a good buy……he may score a few goals for us but he will never be a United player in my eyes, just a Judascunt mercenary
ledo…. if we would have signed Stevie G i think i would have had a fucking heart attack…..i dont think SAF would sign that cunt to clean our shithouses at OT after matchdays….. seriously do you realise the animosity betwween them Cretins at Analfield and us ….. Owen is a dipper playing in our midst and SAf should be ashamed of himself for signing him
Owen shouldnt be called judascunt… he played for liverpool, not because he loves the cash nor the club, its because he loves football. he went to madrid.. not because he loves the money nor the club, again, because he loves playing football and he wants to achieve his goals. he went newcastle.. again… its because he loves football. He joined the red devils.. because he loves scoring goals for both man united and england. i dont see anything wrong with him. He’s a red devil now, and i love him. ive already got his name on my jersey. from the the games he has played, its obvious he’s trying his best to keep man united winning. glory michael owen