An incorrect match-defining decision was witnessed at Stamford Bridge on Sunday which likely had a huge impact on the result. Manchester United only won the game 3-2 but if Fernando Torres has been sent off for kicking Tom Cleverley in the chest in the first half, when Chelsea were still losing 2-1, who knows how many goals United would have won by…
Last night the two teams faced each other again. Whilst Chelsea resorted to playing the likes of Petr Cech, Juan Mata, David Luiz, John Obi Mikel, Oscar, Eden Hazard and Ramires, United played a team of second string players and youth. In fact, the only player to remain from Sunday’s first choice line up was Rafael Da Silva.
“We wanted to show that Sunday’s game was really heavily influenced by the officials,” Roberto Di Matteo said after the game.
How? By fielding almost your strongest team to scrape a 5-4 victory against United’s fringe players and kids? United took the lead three times against Chelsea, before bringing on the likes of Nick Powell (18), Ryan Tunnicliffe (19) and Federico Macheda (21). In response, Di Matteo brought on £75m worth of talent off the bench. Chelsea played 7 of their best available 11 players last night but still needed an inexperienced kid to give away an injury time penalty to win the game. Yeh, Di Matteo showed us alright.
He also said: ”We just want to be treated fairly by everybody. Nobody is talking about the handball in the second half when we should have had a penalty.”
Michael Keane was as guilty of giving away a penalty as David Luiz was on Sunday, and nobody is talking about that either. For it to be a penalty, the player has to be judged as “deliberately” blocking the ball with their hand, so for me, the officials made the right decision in both instances. Both Keane and Luiz handled the ball when their arm was not glued to their side but they didn’t move their hand towards the ball, they just didn’t get it out of the way quickly enough. Was Di Matteo complaining about that decision on Sunday though? It’s all very petty.
Regardless, whilst it’s always nice to go on a good cup run, particularly when you know we would have faced Leeds in the next round, the League Cup provided United with exactly what Ferguson wants from this competition. Scott Wootton and Michael Keane, who were both outstanding for 89 minutes, learnt more last night than they probably have all season in the Reserves. Daniel Sturridge didn’t get a kick until extra time which is a credit to our youngsters, who had a total of 190 minutes of first team football between them before last night. Powell put in a competent performance and forced a great save from Cech moments after coming on. Fancy being a teenager and getting to test yourself against such a strong side? It is invaluable experience for them.
The game also gave Anderson the chance to shine, with him assisting all three of our goals in normal time, which is an opportunity he hasn’t been afforded with the first team yet this season. Ryan Giggs also put in his best performance of the season and scored two goals, ensuring he has scored in all of the 23 seasons he’s been at United. Finally, Chicharito scored his 6th goal in 9 games against Chelsea, and his 5th goal from 11 games this season. He has been 4th in pecking order up front this season but is certainly giving Ferguson something to think about when choosing which strikers to start.
Now all these things are worth noting, but the biggest highlight is that whilst 7 players from our title rivals were slogging it out for up to two hours midweek, our starting XI for Arsenal at the weekend (with the exception of Rafael) had their feet up. Following a tough game last Sunday at Stamford Bridge, it’s a huge bonus that we’ve been able to rest up. Roll on Saturday…
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Was expecting chelsea to go out and win at whatever cost/lineup with the money bag watching ..they almost got embarrased if not for nani..
Also, I wouldn’t say Wooton and Kean were “excellent” for 89 minutes, wooton especially gift wrapped a goal for sturridge etc, but was the experiece invaluable? He’ll yeah, was it a good call to play them in this game? For sure.
How did this idiot lead them to the Ch.League? Dear Lord..
Biggest plus for me last night was Anderson. That boy can play on his day and was a treat to watch. Wonder if Ferguson has a shred of regret in subbing him off but Tunnicliffe ended getting 35+ minutes of senior football.
I think it’s entirely unfair to place that loss on Nani. 120+ minutes of football and 14 players involved. No he wasn’t sensational by any means but Chelsea scored 5 ffs. To put everything on him is bloody harsh to say the least.
Roll on Saturday is right! Let’s do the Gunners in style.
Entertaining to say the least, was very proud watching them last night…they battled and worked very hard for one another and i tought wooton and keane did an excellent job….big learning curve for them both, and hopefully they can be groomed into the next bruce and pallister…. what about chico? he was brilliant again, his movent, touch, and holding the ball up was class, luiz could not live with him… dont think luiz will be ordering a mexican anytime soon, be just too hot for him..would of been nice of course to win but we have bigger fish to fry.. can i just say how good were our fans? they had the place rocking, would have loved to have been there.. RED ARMY!!
Fergie has a problem these days. He clearly wants to give youngsters a chance but every time you field a young player you inevitably weaken the team. That used to be OK because everyone was doing the same (Arsenal, Liverpool etc). The problem now is that the main competition are Chelsea and City and they just don’t bother promoting youngsters. They fill the team with (usually) expensive imports. It’s going to be hard to give Powell, Tunnicliffe etc time on the pitch to learn without dropping points. It’s risky when the league is won and lost by a point or two. It would be OK if everyone was like Cleverley, patient and going out on loan until they’re 22. These days we see teenagers moaning that they want first team football (Pogba, Fryers etc).
Adam, the gift wrapped goal was in extra time. Until the last minute penalty (ie for 89 minutes!!!) the centre backs did very well.
Great blog, spot on. Why do the charmless chelsea always moan . You can buy a team but you cant buy class or a club with soul. The kids were great last night, a hard lesson for them at the end. But the Boss will make sure they learn from the experience. Despite the great finish i think Nani leaves by the end of the season, any orher player would have gone for the corner flag with 30 seconds to go . That will not be forgotten by the manager
Chelsea had to win last night simple as that . . . three losses on the bounce, two at home would have damaged morale and put Di Matteo under pressure with a tricky away game coming up at the weekend.
All managers talk nonsense at times . . . even the greatest of them all . . . the suggestion that United were on top prior to giving away the second penalty is way off the mark . . . Chelsea had come back into the game in the second half.
More curious is the refereeing . . . it’s interesting to see how refs enterpret games differently . . . Wootton already booked in the 64th minute could have been off but Mr. Mason let him off . . . it matters not, United gave up their grip on the trophy.
Sir Alex blamed Nani for the 3rd goal,Utd did have full control of the game and if Nani had passed instead of trying to dribble Utd would have won the game
Sir Alex is just speaking the obvious
Chelsea finished the game with the best available XI.
Bearing in mind:
Cole – injured
Torres, ivanovic, terry – suspended.
Mikel – tactically subbed
I don’t mind losing this one – hopefully the weekend will show the damage has been done – Mata played 120 mins last night. Swansea should be well up for it.
Sky reporting that 2 assistants and 4th Official support Clattenburg.
They did not hear any abusive language over headsets.
Ian- was it not wootton that was left trailing in cahills wake for his header?
@Wayne i agree and it was obvious that nani gave the ball away which then lead to the goal. But surely he should of gave him the hairdryer in the changing room instead of publicly singling out nani. Its hardly going to give him anymore confidence.
United almost have three teams. The first team, a 2nd string team that get brought into the 1st team when needed and the young up and coming players. The difficulty for the third group is that when we have a fully fit squad, they are quite a bit down the pecking order. So for example, Scott Wootton and Michael Keane probably wouldn’t have got that game if Jones and Smalling had been fit.
Gone are the days when United would go 4-0 up in 60 minutes and throw on a Luke Chadwick or similar for a bit of experience. Now if they throw on a player, it’s the mid ranking guys who are looking for match fitness and who need to stay fit in case a nailed down first team player needs a rest or is injured.
I can understand why some of the young players would look for a move. They are training with the first team, they think they can operate at that level, but the likelihood of them getting a chance is low. Scott Wootton and Michael Keane showed last night, that they were good enough, with time and practice they will make it. I just hope they get their chances.
The way that’s turning out Terry led some players into the Refs room and threatened Clattanburg, so Chelsea,Terry and co made up the racist accusation because they know their in deep trouble,that’s the way I see it
Just a bunch of classless,lying,horrible cunts
You can look at games whichever you want if it suits your arguement. SAF wanted to win the game, make no mistakes in truth he wont want to go another season without winning something .only league, FA cup and CL left.
Belfast Red looks like Sir Alex/Nani is beyond repair,Nani has been using the press since the summer viel threats about leaving,broken promises to him from Sir Alex etc.Sir Alex taking a shot back as far as I can see
what is it about players / managers at Chelsea? they seem to live in a parallel universe and see the world in a totally different way to everyone else.
Anyone that goes there, that one may have had a scrap of respect for beforehand, seem to morph into some vile being that doesn’t live in reality.
i have my theory that it all stems from the top, a lack of leadership there from, and seeps all the way down to the overpaid pre-madonnas on the pitch who seem to have more power than they should. this has been going on at least since Mourinho (who only gained a little respect back when he left this horrible club.
i think alex should have fielded his best. He knows the repercussion that may have whilst playing arsenal who rested their player. Even with any sought of team, chelsea have always been a team that absorb all sought of pressure.
just to clear some facts. Chelsea average age of the starting 11 last night was 23.5 yrs on the other hand Man U was 24.8 not that in being difficult here but i thought the point of the article was to argue that United fielded a younger and less experienced team as suggested by the author… Gigs was supposed to be 24 years old in order to match Chelseas average age
Chelsea depend heavily on 3 players. Hazard,Mata and oscar. If any one of the 3 gets injured they are finished. Let us see how they fare. I still consider city as our main rivals. Chelsea are just overrated.
the crazy man also is deluded. He said about yesterdays game
” We just want to be treated fairly by everybody. Nobody is talking about the handball in the second half when we should have had a penalty.”
Mister Di Matteo, What about our handball in our 3-2 win against you when Valencia crossed the ball and Luiz sticked his hand for the ball?
anyway.
In regards to Di Matteo’s comments everyday must read Pep is linked with his job.Most managers who are insecure blame injuries,ref decisions etc.By him bringing on his big guns in the Carling Cup pretty well tells how desperate he was not to lose 2 in a row to us and how insecure he must feel
@WeAreUnited i remember that incident you are talking about but the difference is that Luiz hand was down where last night his hand was up intentionally. Even the comentators during the game on sunday said that its not a hand ball.
@Ash – lol Chelsea depend heavily on three players where United depend on one RVP
with rafael playing the full 120 mins, could it be smalling returning to rb against arsenal. Hope not, rafael has been superb recently
DiMatteo is the perfect man for the hot seat at Stamford Bridge. He can act like he has no other role than to pick the team he is told to and try to manage games. He is viewed as little better than a player who takes orders well. Pay your strongest side, that’s what they pay him for.
I wouldn’t be much interested in hearing a think he has to say if it weren’t for the fact that every 3rd question he is asked is about United.
The man doesn’t come across as the sort who has an idea in his head worth hearing about yet won’t likely say anything controversial as well.
I am so tired of talking about Chelsea after a year of their circling the wagons. They have zero interest in english football or the good of the game. They only care about spending outragious amounts on players and acting like complete turds.
Can we move on…… until we have to play them again?
In all fairness to chelski , they had piazon, azkipuleta, romeu from the beginning and Moses as a newcomer, we had
wootton and keane from youngster in the beginning and buttner as a newcomer. so in that sense it wasn’t a tie. This was the first half. 3-4
In the beginning of the second half we brought Powell for buttner and they Ramires for mikel.
So the youngsters are at this moment 3-4 still for chelski.
57 minute they took Piazon out for Hazard, so it’s 3-3 now. after that we went with Nanis goal into a 3-2 lead.
71 minute. OScar for azkipuleta, so it’s 3-2 for us.
81 minute Tunnicliffe is on so it’s 4-3 youngsters for us.
When analysing this one could argue that it was equal in the case of second stringers, the only different is that they put Oscar, Hazard and Ramires on, so basically their key-men and 2 of them are newcomers and 21 years old.
But we can’t say we played only with youngsters, and of course we could argue that Romeu isn’t a youngsters. Looking purely at who had “real” youngsters more in the field, we had 4 and they 2, even though Azpilicueta is 23, but a newcomer.
Maybe I overanalysed this, but we are on the edge in this one, but then their first-team players includes 20-23 odlers.
wow, I analysed it too much, too much time in my hand. haha
Wow I have to put a stop to all this rose tinted glasses nonsense. Wooton and Keane both should have been sent off, and Chelsea should have had another penalty for the handball when it was still 3-2 to us, before hazard and oscar came on. Most of our goals came from mistakes from the chelsea backline. Let’s not become a flipping moral brigade when we can’t afford to. If we’d have won, Chelsea would have been robbed, put it that way, and we all know that.
I am impressed by the team’s overall performance. Although there is still a need to step up the defense, but the young players have been proving themselves. I hope this loss does not affect them in anyway but keep empowering them with the experience and the urge to play well for the sake of the team so as to keep moving forward and learn to be better. No matter what happen, I hope they will shine and lead United to glory.
81 minute Tunnicliffe is on so it’s 4-2 youngsters for us.
TYPO
@wayne i agree. U dont see S.A.F single 1 player out like that unless hes got a point to prove. He seems to be at the end of his teather with nani. But last night summed the lad up. Infuriating to wotch sometimes then a pure bit of magic with a sublime finish.
as for those who say Ando is fat, found this.
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/079bb98e216011e29bac22000a1c032a_7.jpg
he just lacks stamina which is very crazy when you think of it.
Anyways one of the best players yesterday
Haha .. . 4-2 in youngsters to you . . . shame that doesnt get Unitedinto the next round
Of course Unite have always acted in the best possible moral way and 100% in the interests of their fans . . . ask some of the Munich survivors and those fans that were wearing those green and yellow scarves
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Amazing how United fans groan about Chelsea spending money on players . . . given United’s history with the cheque book.
Off topic, but just a thought. Although I don’t think the goalie was at fault for any of the goals, I find De Gea a much, much better keeper. He is quicker, more mobile, more alert, a better, more secure shot stopper.
united cant take any negatives from that
chelsea rentboys and their racist fans were outsung all night
on the pitch their strongest team needed a last minute penalty to draw against our reserve side
hollow hollow hollow
OUR SECOND STRING DID US PROUD
heres a list of united players who played no part last night
rooney
rvp
scholes
vidic
kagawa
carrick
ferdinand
evans
evra
valencia
smalling
jones
de gea
STRENGTH IN DEPTH
haha forgot cleverley also
. . . interesting . . . out of those that didn’t play . . . 11 were signings. If United fielded their strongest 11 then how many would be players who have come through the ranks?
For starters if it were a league game like Sunday, it wouldve been a 3-3 draw so what on earth is Di Matteo talking about?? You proved that if last night a league game you would of rescued a 3-3 draw at home by bringing on £75M worth of players against Man United second 11. What a boob.
Back on the title of this “rant”, Di Matteo obviously wanted to prove a point, he had no influence on the team United picked . . . that was down to Ferguson, so what’s the big deal?
On the penalty claims there is a clear difference . . . Luiz’s arm was by his side and Valencia drilled the ball at almost point blank range (your picture clearly shows this). In the Keane incident he clearly had his arm up in line with his shoulder and the cross came from several yards away. It matters not, officials all have different interpretations . . . the key is that they must remain consistent across the duration of a single game.
ELLIS- Unlike you rent boys we have a strong squad that does not have a “first or strongest 11″ so nobody can answer your silly question. out of the players missing last night you say 11 were signings…..well, evans, scholes, and cleverley to my knowledge came through the ranks and were not signings. last night welbeck, tunnicliffe, giggs, wootton and keane did also, whereas rafael was brought into our academy system when he was 15……oh and ive forgotten super darren fletcher!
also, it needs to be said that most of these players have a whole host of league and cup medals already, and im sure will have a few more in the coming seasons.
maybe you could say the same for your racist rent boy brigade, although somehow i think you might struggle. maybe you could do a medal count of all your non signed players……..would be erm….ineresting!
November 1, 2012 at 15:42
Ellis says:
“Amazing how United fans groan about Chelsea spending money on players . . . given United’s history with the cheque book”.
your not really in a position to talk to anyone about spending money on players. i believe that since the start of the PL until 2011, chelsea had spent about 744 million pounds on players compared to uniteds 483 million.
also, sundays game was entertaining wasn’t it? i hope you enjoyed it as much as we all did.
suppahigh says:
@Ash – lol Chelsea depend heavily on three players where United depend on one RVP
So now we don’t depend on rooney then. we have better individual performers than your squad, Buying 2 or 3 attacking footballers doesn’t make other average players strong. Take mata out your squad will struggle. Here you take RVP out we still have equally strong strike force in Rooney Welbeck and Your demon Chicho.
Ohhhh Matt . . . . I’m not talking about spending money on players . . . . I’m making reference to United fans grumbling despite the fact that United have a history of buying players and setting transfer records . . . . it must be all the irritation of watching so many good players sign for your neighbours?
Sunday’s match was a good game . . . . just a shame the referee made such a big impact.
November 1, 2012 at 18:11
Ellis says:
“I’m not talking about spending money on players . . . . United have a history of buying players and setting transfer records”
way to contradict yourself there. did you think before you wrote? because if you did your stupidity astounds me and if you didn’t.. your stupidity astounds me.
thanks for the laugh
The game changed when Ando was hauled off.
Tunnicliffe was so incredibly bad he looks less than nothing.
Powell has talent but cannot compete in central midfield he needs to be played further forward.
Lol di matteo talking rubbish? How many hypocritical or absolutely stupid things has fergie said in the media? Nothing tops when he so arrogantly walked out of that interview when he was asked if utd would qualify from the group stages of the CL last year. Pure comedy gold. If Utd were robbed in the way chelsea were on sunday fergie would’ve been fuming. Contrast it to the way di matteo calmly handled his interview with so much class. Textbook. Regardless of whether wooton’s handball was a penalty (which it blatently was, far more so than Luiz’ on sunday) he and Keane should’ve been sent off. But typical for this website to completely ignore that. Also, if torres’ high kick on cleverly was a red, what was evan’s chest stamp on drogba a few years back when utd thought they’d been robbed? Were we complaining? No. If we’d lost yesterday’s game, chelsea would’ve been robbed by united for the second time in a week AT THE BRIDGE. I don’t believe in all this fergie paying the ref nonsense but Utd are the luckiest team in the PL without a doubt. Ask any neutral and you’ll get the same answer.
Ellis
Yeah we set records on buying players but we don’t do that every season. And moreover we spend money from our revenues we generate unlike you guys who buy because of Roman. What would have happened to your club had you guys lost in the final to bayern. No champions league. Would hazard have joined you then. Answer is NO. Accept it people join chelsea for money. Your guys base has been built through big spending. Our base has been made by the youth squad. If there was no busby babes then there wouldn’t have this kind of manchester united. Yeah we spend money an dno one is denying that but please don’t compare your spending with ours. You guys would be nowhere without roman.
Nani’s bad decision making needed to be talked about. He wants a new contract but the old issues remain without being addressed. Nani’s lust for the limelight is costing him dearly. And it is quite ironic, his best year was when he played FOR THE TEAM. He was at his deadliest when providing assists. One of my favorite memories of him is that Champion’s League breakaway when he put it off the outside of right foot, inch perfect, right into Rooney’s stride and Rooney bulged the net. That is when he plays his best. Right now he is well on his way to becoming a Ricardo Quaresma.
red ted says:
For starters if it were a league game like Sunday, it wouldve been a 3-3 draw so what on earth is Di Matteo talking about?? You proved that if last night a league game you would of rescued a 3-3 draw at home by bringing on £75M worth of players against Man United second 11. What a boob.
exactly.
ELLIS. You played your first-teamers with some kids.
We played our “second string” with kids. And you managed to draw us 3-3 and win after extra-time. Good luck to you.
We are not putting any excuse at how we lost with kids, hell no, we are proud of, that our kids managed to get a 3-3 draw against you keyplayers. Extra-time was extra-time and you won there.
And as SORRY but.. mentioned, we kinda Unlike you rent boys we have a strong squad that does not have a “first or strongest 11″ so nobody can answer your silly question.squad.
peace. and I think next time against chelski, we will always play our youngsters mixed with our “second string” team, cause it was way too easy for them.
Matt wrote:
“way to contradict yourself there. did you think before you wrote? because if you did your stupidity astounds me and if you didn’t.. your stupidity astounds me.”
. . . sorry Matt I had to be more specific as you just didn’t get it first time . . . and I’m not sure if you will this time either
WeAreUnited wrote:
“We played our “second string” with kids. And you managed to draw us 3-3 and win after extra-time. Good luck to you.
We are not putting any excuse at how we lost with kids, hell no, we are proud of, that our kids managed to get a 3-3 draw against you keyplayers. Extra-time was extra-time and you won there.
And as SORRY but.. mentioned, we kinda Unlike you rent boys we have a strong squad that does not have a “first or strongest 11″ so nobody can answer your silly question.squad.”
Lol! . . . . “we are not putting any excuse at how we lost . . . . with kids!” That’s just comical . . . . comical
So United can’t name a best eleven . . . . are you a JCL United fan coz most football club supporters always have an opinion on the best line-up their manager can put out.
Mark @ 14:28: ” for example, Scott Wootton and Michael Keane probably wouldn’t have got that game if Jones and Smalling had been fit.”
I think that in the grand scheme of things, Wootton/Keane are 7th/8th on the depth-chart @ centre back. If last night’s match was considered to be “important” then, surely, Michael Carrick would have started ahead of one of them.
SO, rank-ordering would be something like this:
Captain Vidic
Rio
Jonny Evans
BigManSmalling
MrJones
Michael Carrick
Michael Keane
Scott Wootton
LonezStarRed @ 18:19: “Right now he [Nani] is well on his way to becoming a Ricardo Quaresma.”
Ouch !
Ellis what do you smoke.
both played some kids, the difference is you had first team players playing along kids and we had second players with kids,and we are proud of that we didn’t need to use our first eleven players.
Of course you won, we saw that both teams deserved the draw, and you were stronger in extra-time and rightly won 5-4. I’m not crazy to say something else.
I have my opinion on who should play in our first eleven, you,youyou, wow.
But in the case of our history, you know that United, veeery often goes 2 games in a row with the same players, that’s what we mean.
anyway, won’t be explaining you anymore, cause what do you know about that.? chelski, go ask abra for some oil money.
all good for you rent boys, and as soon as your 3 players goes out, you will be singing for new signings.
We have won it three tiiimeees, We Are ManUtd and we do what we want.
Chelsea manager is not ashamed to say this words:with the absence of rvp,wr,sk,ay.we are proud of the kids well done.
Spot on!!! SAF is angry with nani from contract signing to his rebel attitude & his selfishness & dumb f**ked mind which he proved yesterday. SAF lost it completely when he said its nani’s fault. For years i never liked him at all, he is narrow minded f**ked up d**k who thinks the game revolves around him & shoot anythin that moves towards him high & the ball flies. He can be a good player in rugby! Yesterday his selfish dumb fck mind proved it, get him off OLD TRAFFORD, he is irritating dumb f**k!
It wasnt only Nani trying to attack te last ten minutes yesterday. We where playinh gung-ho football til the last minute instead of playing down the clock. To what purpose? But to say it is Nanis fault is very easy, and very wrong. They all lost the ball when counterattacking. And 3/4 of the defenders where to scared to play the ball between them (it will come with time, yes) but it was Fergie who didnt brought on Ferdinand or Evans to keep things calm and to settle things down. Giggs didnt do his part to talk sence to young lads. Many are at fault, not only Nani.
Still, a very good game by our yougsters and Giggs. Proud to be red today, and good to now there is quality pushing on from our own ranks.
That twat Di Matteo can go fuck himself. Didnt saw him whineing when luiz played handball last game. How fucking one-eyed can a person be? It must be a rent to be so fucking blind!
Why has this site been hijacked by these thick Chavs, the pathetic twats are still crying over their defeat on Sunday, last night they were seconds away to an embarrassing defeat to a weakened United side & then Di Matteo comes out wih this crap. That comment by blinkered Ben really does take the biscuit, this muppet going on about United being ‘ luckiest team in PL’, well Chelsea are the luckiest team in champions league history after they fluked the champions league last season playing some of the most dire football ever seen in the competition.
The brain dead Chelsea muppets keep going on about Jonny Evans kicking Drogba a few years back, but the reality of that incident was it was completely accidental & never a sending off, Drogba shouldn’t have been jumping into that challenge as he was nowhere near the ball. To compare that to Torres’ assault on Cleverley on Sunday is ridiculous. The reality of the incident is Evans was concentrating on clearing the ball, he didn’t expect Drogba to be there, if he had been concentrating on Drogba he most probably would have done what Wootton did for Chelsea’s 4th goal past night, but Chelsea fans are too thick to understand that.
@UnitedForever, Lol please watch the replay again, yes he was clearing the ball away with his head, but WAS THERE ANY NEED TO CLEARLY KICK OUT WITH HIS LEFT LEG INTO DROGBA’S CHEST. He clearly extends his foot into Drogba. I feel sorry for you if you can’t see that. Completely intentional, but wouldn’t expect any more from evans. No matter, he’ll never ever be fit to shine drogba’s boots, so I’m sure drogba couldn’t care less now. Love how you’ve completely avoided me pointing out that wooton and keane should have been sent off, the second time we’ve had ridiculous decisions against us at home against united, IN A WEEK. And yes Chelsea were lucky to win the CL, but it had absolutely NOTHING to do with refereeing, we showed more spirit and resilience than any other team last season, coming back from 3-1 down against napoli, 2-0 down against barca AT THE NOUCAMP, and beating the germans at penalties infront of their own fans, in germany. Like it or not you bitter fan, we had unparalleled mental strength, owed to having a team of incredible players. And so I come back to my main point. No team luckier than united with decisions. Please ask a neutral, who’s the luckiest team in the PL, guaranteed United will get the vote 90 percent minimum of everyone you ask.
Wootton gave the single worst performance I’ve ever seen from a United player (been watching since 1993) and you praise him for it? And Ferguson saying that Nani was responsible for the defeat is enraging. He scored a goal and played average. Wootton’s blunders were singlehandedly responsible for 3 of Chelsea’s goals. This site is a joke. Nani has been fucked over since he joined the club because Ferguson has a personal problem with him. He is a far far better player than Young or Valencia and the stats back that up, but Ferguson isn’t giving him a chance this year. I will never forgive Fergie for leaving Berbatov and Nani out of the side in the champions league final and playing Carrick and Giggs in center midfield against the greatest midfield in footballing history. He is no longer a rational actor, he plays favourites with the squad and doesn’t act in the best interest of the team.
Iam sorry to say these but whatever coaching is going on at carrington is not convincing to me.We seem to be discouraging players with flaire and their passion is waning at alarming rate,gone are the days when we could grind out 1 goal wins and still win with flaire.For Gods sake where is carlos quiroze
Let;’s face it Matteo’s a cunt!
ben, only see what you what your blinkered eyes let you see don’t you. First of all there is no such thing as a neutral fan as far as United are concened. I think most United fans admit that United did get lucky with a few of the refs decisions over the last couple of games, but so have Chelsea on countless occasions over the years, especially in fixtures against United, which makes the reaction of the chelsea fans since sunday all the more pathetic. Of course the Chelsea fans are all in denial about the many bad decisions that go in their favour. Why does everyone always conveniently ignore the bad decisions that go against United, on Sunday Torres should have been sent off in the first half,a blatant penalty not given when Cahill was holding down Evans, stopping a goal scoring opportunity, Luiz handball & if the blinkered Chelsea fans think Luiz’ arms were by his side then they need their eyes examining. As usual all these decisions are comletely ignored as usual & the abu lie about United being favoured by refs continues. So Wootton & Keane could have got reds on wednesday, well Cahill could have got a red in the game at SB last season when he brought down Welbeck when last man, but were United fans crying about that or the penalty not given when young was bought down.
The reality is all bad decisions that go against United are completely ignored, whilst whenever a decision goes in United’s favour, even if some of them are proved to be correct decisions, there is an OTT reaction from the media & the sad abus.
United_Forever wrote:
“Luiz handball & if the blinkered Chelsea fans think Luiz’ arms were by his side then they need their eyes examining.”
The picture in this thread clearly shows that David Luiz’s arm was by the side of his body, also important is the position of Valencia . . . the two players are less than a yard apart . . . the ball has hit Luiz . . . by contrast on Wedesday night your player had his arm parallel to the ground outstretched and the cross came from a distance away from where your guy was positioned. It matters not, justice was done in the end.
And for those that claim a 3-3 draw on 90 minutes . . . this game could only end with one winner whether the duration was 90 minutes, 120 minutes or 120 minutes plus penalties. You don’t see QPR suggesting they have been on level terms in 9 league games this season. Fact is Unied threw away a winning position in the same way Chelsea gifted away two goals. Oh let’s think about that for a moment . . . no gifted goals and the score might have seen Chelsea ahead over 90 minutes . . . now I’m beginning to sound as stupid as a Manc!
Reading reports from this match you realise the full ABU sentiment of the majority of football journalists and know all pundits.
I wondered did I watch the same match!
Lol the irony of you calling me blinkered. Pretty much everything you say is so matter of fact, you’re the definition of a blinkered united ‘BELIEVE’ muppet. Fans such as yourself are the type that won’t admit any aspect of another team is better than utd. Probably think utterly stupid things like nani’s better than mata or kagawa’s better than hazard. If I could post the evans drogba video link on here I would. When clearing a ball, with your head, do you kick out horizontally to your left? If so you probably need to get checked out mentally ASAP. You clearly see in the video he moves his leg up to his left in the direction of drogba’s chest, and then kicks out, his foot clearly moving faster as he motions it into drogba. Clear as day but you see everything through red tinted glasses so there’s no use making intelligent arguments is there. And as for cahill bringing down welbeck, See Ellis’ comment about Luiz, stop talking rubbish. Also, Gary Neville himself said that Cahill Welbeck wasn’t a penalty. Read Graham Poll’s article on why it wasn’t a penalty. First contact OUTSIDE THE BOX. You’ll probably mention drogba’s offside goal at Old Trafford….remember Macheda’s handball goal i the same match? Thought not, see what you want to see. Finally love how you’re creating the impression that the media is to blame for everyone feeling robbed by man utd, when was the last time you saw an article knocking united or saying they were lucky? The media loves you, constantly coming out with new pieces on how your the comeback kings, how fergie did this how fergie did that, how rooney is amazing etc. Please stop blaming everybody else and look at your club. United have truly created a culture of seeing what they want to see, and everybody is against us…when its absolute nonsense. ‘There is no such thing as a neutral fan as utd are concerned’. Spoken like a true believe Muppet. Ask yourself why, if you were to ask any english football fan who the luckiest team were in england, the vast majority would say united.
ben – please learn to read you thick illiterate chav twat. Where exactly did i say that Cahill’s challenge on Welbeck last season was a penalty ? I said it should have been a sending off, I know it was outside the box, but he was the last man so it should have been a sending off, but obviously you wearing your blue tinted glasses will try to argue against that. Then you go claiming I am blinkered about United, when if you could actually read you would see I said Woottton & Keane could have been sent off & that United did get lucky with some decisons in the last 2 games, but i have not seen you once admit that Chelsea also benefit from bad decisons & that United are also on the wrong end of bad decisons, so I think that proves beyond doubt who is really the blinkered muppet – it is you.