John Terry has played first team football for Chelsea for eleven seasons. In that time they have finished 3rd, 5th, 6th, 6th, 4th, 2nd, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd in the league, giving them an averaging finishing place of 3rd. Yet those title wins five and six seasons ago have given Terry ideas above his station.
“We’re confident for next season and our main target is to regain the championship,” Terry said at the end of the 2007 season. “We’ll come back stronger. Seeing United lift the trophy the other week was not nice at all and having won it the previous two years, we felt it was our trophy and we’ll come back fighting.”
“We feel we are the best team,” Lampard added. “We haven’t been able to put out our strongest team for a lot of periods but we’ve kept going to the end.”
Liverpool and City fans aside, have you ever come across a pair of more deluded twats? At that point, United had won the Premiership trophy nine times (sixteen times title winners) whilst Chelsea had just won it twice (three times title winners) but Terry believed it was their trophy? What planet is he on? Of course, Chelsea have no won the title since then, with United winning it every year.
Terry has again confirmed the hurt and pain he has suffered over the past few years, along with ‘winners’ Lampard and Drogba.
“To see Man United lift the trophy for the last three years has torn me up inside,” Terry said. “Frank Lampard would say the same thing and Didier Drogba. We are winners. We hated seeing Man United lifting the trophy.”
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Tiny Tears strikes again.
Dry your eyes son.
And long may it continue
just jealous of our success.Wtf does he mean by our trophy.just because they won it convincingly 2 times does not mean its their trophy.ith the transfer ban on and the high average age of their side they wont win anything for the next couple of years. keep on dreaming mr chelsea and phatprank.
oh and didier drogba.he is a total cunt.always messes up for chelsea like last years Cl against Barca and Final against us.
I studied English in collage
so I dont know much about Maths
but how can united be top of the league and yet its city chelsea and liverpools year,
I LOVE JOHN TERRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUvitQtQ7nU&
that is the height of being deluded. keep on dreaming.its always gonna end in tears
haha tiny tears was lonely so fat frank and diving didier have decided to cry with him
How adoring!! The english LION is pleading for sympathy for himself and for his sorry twatmates. I really wonder are there actually people out there who take what these characters say seriously? No real passion, loyalty, or respect for the game and for your own team.
Between Chelsea and City, we’ve got enough money grabbing clowns to start a circus!
I seriously wonder what will happen to the game in the future.
“we felt it was our trophy”
hahaha funny shit, quote of the day. we have won the PL trophy 9 times, them twice. simply, it is our trophy and always will be. what a dumb crybaby. btw, seeing us lift the trophy time and time again shouldn’t tear him, he was a utd fan in his childhood afterall..
viva john terry…
Fze123
United and giggs have won it 11 times
Fze123 Said,October 3rd, 2007 @10:54 “we felt it was our trophy”
hahaha funny shit, quote of the day. we have won the PL trophy 9 times
ah 2007
when united where champions
And that was how ghtt was born.If you look at the pic very well,he was bowing to evds which confirms the superiority.
Of course they should be the REAL winners. After all, how many other clubs can say they’ve a chief executive who won a medal at the Champions League final?
long may the pain continue for them. Deluded pricks. Rooney,carrick or ferdinand would never make such rants.
I know you can count it in different ways and I assume you’re counting this season, but in reality Chelsea’s title wins were four and five seasons ago. To put it in comparison, by your standards you’d have to say United last won the title two seasons ago – that doesn’t make any sense
there not doing too bad in the league history
former 2 time winners of the premier league
thats 1 more than blackburn
they are 3 time vise Champions
I really cant stand the rent boys…Its a different kind of hate to say the liverpooh or citeh. Cant explain it..
Lampard added. “We haven’t been able to put out our strongest team for a lot of periods but we’ve kept going to the end.”
Yeah ‘cos they’re the only team that get injuries!
afromancliverpool- old rivals and a close county derby
city – closest oldest and hometown rival
Chelsea- faulse sence of self worth, they believe that the last 7 years of them doing something for of them makes them as big(or bigger) than manchester united
Lancaster Red
I love that excuse
they’ve used that alot the last 3 years
and liverpool used it last year and sky sports jump on it
but united made defencive history last season with one keeper and vidic and alot of injuried defenders mixing in for the other 3 spots,
Oh i hate terry…trying to win sympathy showin passion n all…who is he kidding bout the trophy…i love to see him cry…hope so it happens again this year…viva john terry…
You just GHTT and Fat Frank and that scrote-haircut having diver….
I’m sure there was a typo!
There was a “h” in the word “winners”.
Only few people in the world can come up with such statements,
Born Talent
Bawww Tiny Tears…One half of his brain probably snapped from the humiliation and pressure of bottling that penalty.
sorry for this well off topic
but i just watched man united v arsenal from 1989 on espn classic
and i have to wonder how the back pass rule took so long to come in,
Back pass rule??
a defender kicks the ball back to his keeper and the keeper can pick the ball up
it just killed the game dead
great game , lee martin was a strong kid
What a deluded cunt! keep dreaming man.
Offtopic…I am having difficulty accessing RoM..whats the matter
@cherry : it happens sometimes may be due to site probs.
@theboogeyman – the back pass rule was enacted to prevent Loserpool from ever winning the title again. They just can’t deal with it.
And about Chav$ki; they’re mad if they really believe that. The only reason they won the title was because Mourinho managed every last meager drop of talent from their money-grubbing bodies. As soon as the Russian thug loses intrest and the old decrepit players start to die Chelsea will be shite again.
ok wazza (Bezi) mate,hope u are havin a good time
lol I thought as much.How could they take so long to figure out that’s it’s a stupid thing to allow?
Thanks,GHTT,20legend99.
what do you guys think about tonight’s match? i think this snderland side is pretty decent and it wont be easy for us.Bent and jones are a handful and they have some good defensive players in Cana and cattermole.we may have problems in breaking them down again like last year.May need some giggsy magic again.but dont think he will start.wont be a walk in the park but we should get the job done and put pessure on chelsea and the dippers ahead of tomorrow’s match
heres my team
Foster
o shea vidic ferdinand evra
valencia fletcher scholes nani
berbatov rooney.
For a captain of both club & country, John Terry has disgraced himself in my eyes in Moscow when he missed the penalty & CRIED in front of millions. I think of him VERY LOWLY unlike when Mourinho was around.
“we felt it was our trophy” – Because they won it in succession whilst the rest of the league was adjusting to contending with an unprecedented approach for acquiring success?
I hate any team but the Champions laying claim to the trophy. It’s embarrassing to be speaking in such a manner when you’ve been outdone over the course of a season. Your record of success, scarce or abundant, doesn’t mean shit when you’re up against it in the present, which is what made the Scousers’ “come back when you’ve won 18!” banner so cringeworthy.
Fortunately, I’ve only ever heard our players referring to it as ‘ours’ during celebrations for winning it.
I guess you have to join us to win trophy. Oh no. Too old for both of you to join us now. lol
I can understand why Chelsea might think it was their trophy, they paid enough for it.
what a serious fuck wit. Maths and logic are clearly not a strong point for the cunt that is Mr Chelsea. His fellow team mates, except fat lampard and dog boy, must luv their captains claim of only having 3 winners in the team. The german bollock must be fuming.
What Giggs has achieved in 18 years(11 medals) is 4 times more than what Chelsea as a club has achieved in fifty years(3 tittles) & yet he stil thinks it’s their tittle.He calls his teammates ‘winners’_what have they been winning for the past 3 yrs?
This is typical footballer talk.. these things should go in one ear and come out of the other ear.. but I guess it’s a slow news day
dry your eyes mate, i know its hard to take but ye’ll never be united, plenty P.L’s in O.T
@United in Banaglore : is it not Bangalore ?
Someone called ‘Scott’ messaged into BBC 606 that Vidic will not be playing today due to a minor car accident!
hargreaves will be taking our free kicks from now on http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5604115,00.html
mahesh, hope its not true
@ mahesh. ihave just read it on bbc live.scott is that true that vidic got accident this morning?
Anyone got team news?
I’m surprised he hasn’t picked up a Kleenex tissues sponsorship.
Foster-O’Shea,Vida,Evans,Evra-Nani,Fletch,Scholes,Welbeck-Rooney,Berba
Oops, forgot my manner again. Hi everyone!
that the offical line up costas?
where is Costas? Team news please
Interesting rotation there with the line up. I’m glad Nani is given another run out, and maybe it means that he will be on the right and Danny on the left. And wtf Rio, get healty!!
And good morning/afternoon fellows. Lets hope its a good day
That’s what i found on the Skysports score center Jack
Our bench is like this:
Kuszczak,Rio,Brown,Ando,Valencia,Carrick,Fabio.
No Giggs.
I think Rio is rested. Are we turning Danny into a left winger for good?
We’ve scored lovely goal for 3-0 againt Sunderland in reserves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBnYIuaLWyc
weird line up
hope danny stays a winger, prefer him there
Really Jack? I see him as being too tall for a winger. He seems like an Henry striker
drew vader
his quick and he can beat players so i think its suit him on the wing, just my opinion mate, i dont mind eitehr way where he plays to be honest, good player.
@ Costas
Hi, buddy.
“Are we turning Danny into a left winger for good?”
the same question came to my mind. it’s not his position but in the FA Cup Semi he played well in that position.
Anyway happy to see him in the line-up as well as i was happy for PiG on Wednesday. I thing the same reason they both played.
Yeah I think its cool that he is getting some playing time, and I guess it helps to be adaptable and can maybe play as a winger or a striker, since competition for places is so tough right now. I wonder if we’ll ever see Kiko in a league match?
And I’d like to see Fabio get more playing time. Evra is playing really really well right now, but surely he will need a rest once in a while… Or hell, against a weaker side put Fabio out at right back.
My favourites are Brown on the right and Fabio on the left.
Hi Corea. I am also glad Danny is starting. We can use more options for our wings. And if he is going to make the break through, we have to trust him in these games.
I think Drew is right. Playing Danny on the left just gives us more options.
)
SAF is a wise human being. Who would have thought.
Costa
hi mate
ive said it before and ill say it again
Welbeck is a left winger
ole is shaping him for it
not been negitive at all
but 4 seconds in
foster looks shaky and kicked the ball in a panic when he should of just caught it
berbatov excellent touch
excellent pass
hair away from getting clean true to rooney
Hi everyone!
Sunderland are dominating…Our team is in decline…We should sell Foster…
GHTT-Giving us a liveblog in Scott’s absence,what?
sunderland really having a go
a united goal would stop all this possitve sunderland play but good start to the match
sunderland 2 set peices already in the united half
whats with the you’ll never walk alone chant
What the hell?!?
sunderland 1 nil
darren bent
slow start from united
WTF? horrible defending. COME ON UNITEED !
sunderland pressing again
united look a bit rattled by sunderlands attack
fletcher and scholes are trying to streach there midfield
Reid’s shot balloons over….
berbatov nani and oshea worked well in the box but soft shot
I’m joining GHTT with his liveblog.
Berbatov is wincing,let’s hope it’s nothing more than a knock…
is it just me or is old trafford just too quite?
heres rooney to nani
away by anton
reid whips it in
away by vidic
Sunderland attack,but the cross is headed away for a throw by Evans.
We’re giving ball away too cheaply here…
evra getting stuck in on the wings
himself and welbeck doing well down the left
nani doing well down the right
Fletch hits a long ball,but it’s waaaaaaayyy too long.
Nani cuts in,and he is fouled.Freekick.
evra throw in goes nowhere
fletcher and scholes dont seem to be working on the same page
i think the defence are a bit worried about the man behind them
richardson fowl on nani
outside the box
WHERES GIGGS FOR THIS
It’s as if there are many more white shirts on the field than red…
ROONEY FREEKICK OFF THE WALL OUT FOR A THROW
wellbeck off anton corner
Good cross from O’Shea,Anton heads it out for a corner.
Nsni’s corner is miserably bad,but it’s shoddily cleared and somehow Scholes got a volley and we get anotjer corner,which is wasted.
Rooney is proper shite at the moment…
bardsley, with a point to prove, is tough tackling since the start
Sunderland are man marking united players and tnited dont seem to be up for short passes
scholes 30 yard pass to rooneys toe pass to oshea back to rooney out for a corner
nani shit corner
corner into scholes shot hits rooney out for another corner off bardsley corner in and cleared by jones
back into rooney to berbatov tackled and out
united need to work this team
welbeck to scholes to berbatov to rooney and the pass to berbatov was miss timed
scholes yellow card
Goddamnit Scholes, not again!!
Scholes gets an unnecessary yellow for tripping up Bent.
Link anyone?
Rooney give the ball away too many, Scholes start to show his stupidity…
reid kills nanis leg
ref says play on
i know people say berbatov plays too deep
but he’s gone deeper in this match as its going on and uniited midfield looks like they have more time
sunderland using there time on the ball better
FREE kick outside the box
short from rooney to scholes to fletcher wide to nani with A WONDERFUL BALL IN that the keeper got to first
Nani tries to be cute,but it fails.Hemakes up for it and wins the ball back,passes toPaul,who passes to Pat,who skips past one is hauled down by another.FK from 25-30 at a 55 degree angle.It’s laid off to Scholes who passes to Fletch,who hits it out wide toVida,who puts in a good cross that’s ceeared away.
fletch rooney welbeck-bad first touch
tide seems to be changing
Fucking he bodychecked Danny!!Yellow to Richardson.
richardson booked for fowl on welbeck
I cannot see sunderland keeping this up
evens to nani into scholes out for united throw
Rooney can’t keep the ball to save his life…*sigh*
Sunderland look a bit tense,they’re fouling for fun now…
schole to berbatov beutifully to rooney outside the box pass to oshea with a bad cross sunderland break comes to nothing
Soneone shoot ffs anyone
stop being so fucking generous UNITED!!!
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE REPLY TO HURR ABOUT ROONEY PLAYING BAD
ITS WHAT HE WANTS
Nani musled off the ball by bardsley but nani is not doing too bad
i can see scholes or fletcher coming off for valencia is this doesnt change and 3 play up front
REID HANDBALL INSIDE THE SUNDERLAND BOX
ref says no
What the hell GHTT? >_>
Sir Alex has the hairdrier plugged in allready
Besty 07-It won’t be a hairdrier,it’ll be a goddamn jet engine!
Rooney, please keep your cool…
sunderland passing well getting waaaaaayyyyss from the away fans because there is so many till scholes wins it.
Rooney has to watch himself he swung out at andy reid
he’s getting frustrated which means we are in for one of two waynes
the one who takes it out on the ball on a volley against newcastle
of the one that claps hands in refs faces
sorry hurr but rooney isnt getting the service he knows he should
he is makin the best of a bad game play
you said “rooney is proper shite at the moment” thats harsh
He is saying that, becuase he sees that this season they will be without trophy again…desperation is talking…
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
Berbatov ior Nani are united sbest players in my opinion so far
Fuck you,mara.
They thought when Ronaldo goes that we will be weak, but only thing they see, is that we are stronger
No prob, GHTT. I’m just frustrated at the players’ failure to string passes at the mo’.
Whatthefuck?!?You changed your tune so fast??
i m saying about Terry s “We are winners. We hated seeing Man United lifting the trophy.”
Uniteds midfield stringing passes together but berbatov and rooney are deep helping with it so theres noone up front for it
2 minutes extra time
Fergie is dying to get to the dressing room
load up a spit wash
Aaaah,right.I apologise for telling you to fuck off..
last minute corner
cleared
wistle
half time
AND BOOOS !!????
wait , we still have a 45 minutes and valencia on the bench…
I think no Wellbeck in the 2nd half. I don’t think Rooney will play left.
Awful 1st.
booers should be ashamed
What. The. FUCK?!?!?! Wake the fuck up lads, for fucks sake. Now those pictures from training yesterday. Dont be out there fucking laughing it up and having a good ol time and then go out there and put out that kind of performance. My Lord I’m going to stroke out. Wayne has given the ball away 9 out of 10 times, Scholes is only slightly better, giving it away about 8 out of 10. Berba is invisible. Nani cant cross past the first defender AGAIN. What the fuck is going on
united fans can boo if they want to.It was a poor first half why not?
No shot on target. Very awful.
Dreadful – O’Shea to slow to close down Bent, just like against Belamey. Hairdryer at halftime.
hairdryer is out for sure
Shocking First half. Not the same team we saw coming back from a defeat against Wolfburg. Rooney is having a bad game, his touch is too heavy. Keeps passing the ball to the Sunderland players all the time. Getting frustrated when Scholes or Nani dont pass the ball to him but doesnt really get into a good position to start with. Evra was at fault for their goal but got better as the game went. Evans and Vida are solid at the back. Scholes and Fletcher need to swap positions. Why is Scholes playing as the holding midfielder? Nani keeps getting pushed around by sunderland players and it getting pissed. Berba is not getting any service. Welbeck is just NOT A WINGER. Flecther seems tired and just is not bothered to track back and put in a tackle. Fergie need to give them the hair dryer. That was not acceptable. WE ARE UNITED!
Take Scholes off, we are getting dominated with 11 v 11, so 11 v 10 we will have no choice. Put Ando on. Put on Valencia for Danny. And then maybe put on Fabio for O’shea just to give a little more attacking threat down the right. I dont fucking know man… Goodness gracious that was AWFUL
Are we playing in the white strips by any chance? Sure looks like it. We’ve got plenty of possession but have been terrible all around at doing anything with the damn ball. If things go on like this, we will not win for sure. That’s the bad news. The good news is that all its going to take is a couple of players on the pitch actually recognizing that we’re the team in Red for us to create chances. Welbeck might have to come off – he seems to no read passes too well. He’s stopped and started a few too many times today with the result that he misses out a ball that he has no right to lose out on.
jespermoses-Because they’re supposed to support the team.We’re not Liverpool,you know…
can they not put fabio in for o’shea i know he’s left back apparently but i mean come on
Bloody hell, i actually fell asleep during a United game! Wake the fuck up lads!
Berbatov looks lonely out there.. He is head and shoulders better than others now. I just can wish Sheasy can help our right winger as much as Evra is helping our left winger.
Rooney just should learn to keep his head cool. He couldnt even figure out what to do now. Even a simple pass made him look stupid.
Steve Bruce’s words before the match must have gotten our players to look down on Sunderland.
Hope to see a much better performance in the second.
OMG… OMG
I cant recall when i have seen such a poor performance.
WEll i can i guess.. The Champions league final earlier this year although that was against Barcelona not fucking Sunderland!
Sunderland are teaching our boys how to play football all around the pitch! We havent had a sniff and our passing is awful!
So many players are playing under par its unreal.
The Second Half i expect after Fergies Team talk our passing to be more quicker, The speed of our buildup more direct… Players making more of an effort.
I expect Scholes to come off of carrick or Anderson
Welbec to come off for Valencia…..
I expect Valencia to come on for WElbeck at the start of half time, or shortly after (the 30 seconds extra time might come in handy at the end of this half!!)
Frustrating game of football..45min played no shot on target very unusual of us. Rooney should calm dow….I have not seen much of Fletcherinho….I have lost count of the number of times I have seen Rooney/Fletch/Scholes pass the ball straight to a Sunderland player…fucking frustrating
Fergie’s cracking out the jet engine as we speak,do not fear.
As fans who pay our money we entitled to boo at half time after a poor performance.Fans all over the world have done that for as long as football has been around.Its not about not supportinng the team its just telling the players to buck up their ideas and play like they should.
Perhaps we have become too dependant on Wazza? I said this on Wednesday, but he looks a bit tired. But it’s not only him. Fletcher is off the game, so is Scholes, Nani is his usal self and Berba is the only one fighting this. We need a quick goal. Fuck that. We need a shot on target first!
BERBATOV
Hello ppl.. The guys need to wake up and be patient, they are trying to do too much, just have patience and pass it around, the chances will come automatically!
Rooney getting too frustrated as happens when we don’t do well, I can see a red card coming if the score stays like this – he needs to cut out those stupid late challenges if he wants to reach next level status..
Costas – Bloody hell I wish I’d slept through it…That’s as bad as I’ve United play for a while. Since the CL final I guess, but that was Barca so i could still understand. This is just shambolic. You can pick out every single outfield United player on the pitch today and fault them for a shocking performance.
Come onnnnnnnnnnn lad…..hope fergy will bring on Ando for Welbeck and Carrick for Scholes
poor poor performance. i hope at this right minute the lads are recieving the hairdryer treatment from a raging red-faced fergie. hopefully valencia will come on, he’ll put in a lot of crosses and pace which we’ll be needing in the second half. if only giggs was playing, you just never really know you’re missing a someone in a game unless he’s not playing. does that even make sense.
@ Drew Vader i actually thought berba was one of the best players in 1st half
Still think we will win this game 3.1
This is not to slate Nani pointedly (he hasn’t been the worst player on the pitch today for sure) – but one thing I have noticed recently is that whenever he’s on the pitch Rooney and Berba get mighty frustrated. Both of them keep having a go at him, deservedly so. And it shows in their games as well. Rooney looks like he’ll murder someone (probably Nani).
I hope we turn it around. Come on lads!
Im not pulling shots at this guy
and i will get slated because of this
but Uniteds problem today was scholes
the guy is allowed an off day
but not when everything seems to be set up to play through himself
I feel bad saying it
but anderson id say should come on
Here is to hoping for a good second half….am off for the second half…
WTF. cant we win a game comfortably.do we have to go behind every time.we are not gonna come back everytime.anywats no complains with the scoreline. we have been shocking.get valencia anderson and carrick on.firts hold the ball and then we can think of getting a shot on target.
GHTT and boogeyman.thanks culdnt watch last 20 mins and maybe wont get to watch the 2nd half.your updates are very useful
Fre — How many times have you seen our lads in possession, looking forward for a pass, not finding one, and then having to go backwards or sideways?? That to me says that our forwards aren’t moving, aren’t showing for the ball. Which to me means Berba isn’t doing much. He isn’t working hard enough, pure and simple. But its not just him. Its Wayne too. Wayne is getting it but keeps giving it right fucking back to them.
@FZE123 i think Berbatov is actually the best player in the first half, and he is alone out there. If Berba was 7, others are only 4..
In short, United (at least our strikers) are much calmer and more composed without Nani on the pitch than with him there. Just an observation, but that’s not very good for Nani’s future at the club.
I personally thought Oshea was good today. Kept pressing forward and his crosses are good. Nani is very frustrating to watch. Berba has been the only one who looks like he wants to win. Scholes should come off for Anderson or Carrick. Valencia then should come on later if Welbeck doesnt improve.
COME ON LADS!!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP PLEASE
i hate to say it but we are too dependant on giggs. the wide play which has been a high point this year has been shockin. rooneys game has gone. im just thankful sunderland havnt got as much talent as other teams coz we would be three of four down
Scholes off for Anderson it seems
Emilys home from toy shopping so im watching this with her
boogeyman its up to you
see you’s in a few hours
I’ll have to go with Drew Vader on this one. I have backed Berba from day one, but we could do with him being a bit tougher and really going for those 50-50 balls – which he isn’t doing. It usually doesn’t make a difference, but today it does.
Lads…
I dont think sunderland will keep this kind of Temo up the whole game..
Teams that play like this normally their performance levels drop and we get more chances and space in the last 30 minutes!!
I hope thats the case!
For me whoever scores the next goal wins! As long as its scored before the last 10 minutes or normal play!! I hope i am right!!
COME ON UNITED
SUPPORT EMILY
agree with Sketch
btw if sunderland win it’ll be their first win at old trafford in 40 years
@Mahesh i dont understand how come you are angry with Nani so much.. I mean, others are quite as bad as him, But today Nani is a lot better than even Rooney and Fletcher. Plus, O’Shea is not helping him with that kind of performance. To me, suddenly putting Welbeck at left wing is what damaging our build up the most. Like somebody else said earlier, Welbeck hesitated too much even the most simplest of plays are ruined..
Pick that out
Berba!!
Thats what im talking about!
Berbatov you beauty!
I apologize to you Fre…and to berba
WOOOOOOOW BERBA
Well done nani also
OH YOU BERBA! HOLY CRAAAAAAAAAAAAP
there is no one better in these ..
can someone describe the goal?
fergie just let the ref have about 9200 f bombs in 10 seconds
get in berbatov
LOL Fergie is giving the 4th official the hairdryer!
Fergie to get sent off
FUCKING SHIT MISSED IT AGAIN CURRY TIME
Berba will will it by himself. And he deserves it.
also ando has beasted since coming on what a badass. him and fletcher together is amazing
@AIG
It’s O’Shea cross to Berba bicycle kick! Proper beauty!
Oh FFS!!
fuck me.
FOSTER YOU SOFT CUNT
Foster?!
ohh my god what a fine goal that was! whoever said berba is invisible, here’s the response.
come on utd, let’s rev up the goal machine!
FFS!!!!!!!!!!
Why does Vidic seem unable to communicate with Foster, over and over again we get into trouble because it seems Vidic and Fosters communication gets in a mess. That Goal should have been either Fosters or Vidic’s and both hesitated
O’Shea backed off again to allow the cross. he is shittttt under pressure
NEARLY CHUCKED UP ME BHAJI
every part of this lineup sucks bigtime…
oooohhhhh rooonnneeeeeyyyyy so close
this is not good at all. we need a goal, why on earth do we always go behind
When the hell are we going to realize it…. FOSTER IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH. For crying out loud, is not as if the guy is still 20. Not because he’s English he should be above PIG in the pecking order. THERE ARE AT LEAST 9 GOALKEEPERS BETTER THAN FOSTER IN THIS LEAGUE.
@haruglory : wrong. foster is the problem we were dominating them. we still are. it’s foster the lineup is fine
carrick warming up
I’m just so pissed with Foster.. how many times must he f**k things up so that SAF doesn’t play him again. AMAZING SHIT… I can’t believe we still have Foster in the team.
We’re not going anywhere like this.
10 minutes to go and we’re still losing. come on utd SCORE
bardsley, richardson & campbell will have the last laugh… they’re United rejects and yet they beat United…
I cant believe that we are going to lose, or have 2:2…i guess today is not our day…somethimes you can t against that..but on the other side it is so nice to see us on the 1st place on the table…
They’re down to 10 men now. If we can’t still get goals I’ll be proper pissed!
now playing against 10 men
got a bad feeling about this one
Fergie time!!
fergie time to come
Goddamnit find the fucking net!!
Ferdinand OG!! Yes!!
Yessssssssssssss
fucking get in ….still got2 mmins left
PAT YOU BEAST!!!!
COME ON UNITED, 2-2
FUCK!!!!!!YES!!!!
Ah, FT. Draw. *sigh*
fucking Sunderland ….played well though under Brucie
Got out of jail big time
Stupid Foster. We should of won this game. He is always letting us down like that. We are already struggling without him conceding stupid goals. Thank You Ferdinand.
SO F-ing close…
omg that was shocking glad we got something. have a word fergie
cheers anton….the refree was a disgrace, lost count of how many pens we should of had reid handball, sunderland player bringing down evra, reid again but nope we always get the decisions
foster has to go, he is utter shite….
he needs to be sent out to pasture
we had only 2(TWO) good player today. The first, scored a beauty. The second, forced an own goal.
I am not going to be most negative, but Rooney had an off day today. We should let him rest a little bit. To be fair, it was just awful.
And to be fair again, Steve Bruce made a wonderful tactical change bringing in Henderson to counter our 4-4-2 after we brought Carrick and Valencia in. Hats off to Brucey.
I don’t have trust in Foster. First goal he didn’t rescue, second not totally his fault but this things really annoy you.
Fergie, give PiG his chance.
Awful game and what is the most funniest thing we might remain on top in the league.
If Chelsea win 2mrw they will climb on top of us. I fucking hate those Scousers but i hope they win tomorrow.
Disgusting
Rooney was off too against Wolfsburg. He needs a vacation or two. He’s probably thinking too much about his first child’s birth.
Credit to Brucey and to Sunderland. All i wil say is that we better wake the fuck up soon. Sunderland shot 3 on target and scored 2. That’s disgraceful for a United team that had 14 cleans sheets in a row last year! It’s not about Foster or O’Shea. They were all at fault today. Vida didn’t helm matters either.
Rooney was a shadow of himself…
And its getting harder and harder to defend Foster… I think Tony Bee put it best, “Foster you soft cunt”
i dont think Foster should be blamed. They were not his fault.
I think when one player, like rooney today, is bad…let him on the bench and get fresh blood…the will byte, you can t play super every day…
we almost won it in the 93rd minute. if only fergie made a substitution, would’ve given us more time…it was a bad performance from us anyway, i think sunderland deserved more than a point. we were second best. we need to sort out our defence. foster needs to improve, big time, for his career’s sake. rooney had an off day, was hoping he’ll win it dramatically.
what a goal from berbatov though
Foster needs to fuck off
Brucie showed his management chops today and no mistake. Took a bunch of United strays, a couple of quality players and some average ones and produced an absolute textbook display. I don’t think we’ll see many teams bring that sort of discipline and level of sheer physicality and grit to a game at Old Trafford. He worked those players hard and they deserved their point, hell if they’d taken all three I wouldn’t have felt in any way cheated given their attitude and that of our players.
I think Ben Foster might have blown his last chance to be honest. The second goal he was poor.Don’t even think he made a mistake really, he made the right choice, he just got splatted.
foster is shit
Valencia keeps going to the right. Next time he will be a useless player.
Foster keeps making silly mistakes.
Sheasy keeps being useless in the attacking play.
Play PiG on goal if VDS won’t be ready. Play both Da Silva’s on the flanks.
But it wasn’t really that much of a problem with the players. Just an awful game and some errors in judging the game. 9 wins in a row was too much for us.
All I can say is that it was fair result. I am just sad that Berba’s really coming of age at United with that sublime goal couldn’t be rewarded with a victory. Foster was soft for the second goal, no doubt. But overall the performance was under-whelming. Rooney now should be rested for CSKA, baby or no baby. Anderson needs to play more often – suddenly Anderson-Carrick/Fletcher is looking a decent pairing after all. It is clear, though, that we’ve rode our luck this season sometimes, and if we don’t sort it out its going to be a long long season. Good news is that all other teams seem to be riding their luck at this point. But fucking disgusting game that at times. And our goals prove that. When you score simple taps ins its usually a sign that you’re playing well. When you depend on deflections and sublime goals it is a sign that its not going to last forever.
That was utter shite from us. thank god for that deflection because to be honest we should have walked away with no points tonight. I know fergie cant get it right all the time but what was he doing playing welbeck, and what was he doing playing him on the wing? Nani and Foster were and will continue to be mediocre. we need VDS back and we need a decent replacement for nani who should be shipped out asap. Im tired of waiting for him to come good. he is averagely bad and he has the poorest attitude!
Worst first half performance i have ever seen. We were well and truly dreadful. Rooney, Nani, Scholes, Fletcher all looked so off the pace. Second half was better, but we were lucky to get anything from this game.
Sunderland looked up for the game and we didn’t.
Foster as i’ve said so many times doesn’t belong as the first choice keeper. He isn’t good enough. I honestly wonder how many mistakes we will have to suffer before he goes back to the bench!
Have you ever seen Vidic outsupermanned like today? that Kenwyne Jones is awesome.. He was causing us problems all the time today.
don’t think anyone shud be complaining after we picked up a point where we had one of the worst first halves i’ve seen in a looooong time. Conceeding again in the 2nd, happens, but still didn’t look like scoring so getting the point at the end of the day is great.
Evra and Berba didnt tell the others that the match was today. Totally awful display.
Man, we didn’t deserve anything from this game. Draw is a fair result I guess.. That’s why you can’t learn on the job if you are a goalkeeper. He got away with it against City but today he didn’t. Shame. Come on VDS man! get fit.. the defence don’t have confidence in the other keepers..
Anyway it was a pretty bad day at the office, but now we got 2 whole weeks to dwell on this! I hate internationals
Rooney looks jaded…or distracted. He along with scholes were terrible in the first half. Berba looked well up for it in the second but Rooney just looked like he wanted to go home.
Only player to come away with any pride should be Evra who looked like he could have gone on for another 60 minutes. Vidic looks a different player this year as well…and what the fuck happened to scholes today. Both him and Fletcher were completely dominated by Cattermole and Cana…and how many people could have predicted that?
SAF please look for another keeper…Foster. Please drop yourself to the bench!
“but now we got 2 whole weeks to dwell on this! I hate internationals”
spot on…
we lost points to Burnley and Sunderland.. funny isn’t it..
Sunderland deserved 3 points today imho.
Players need to have a look @ themselves as to why they played so badly.
All credit to Brucie and his team.
lets hope they play like that against our title rivals
oh yeah international weeks coming. well that might be good for Rooney.
Positively, we got to see Welbeck as a very good backup for our strikers.
Let’s hope for a draw tomorrow. I don’t wan’t Chelsea to overtake us nor do I want the dippers to come close to us.
we all being serious? come on guys, jones is a big lad not many keepers would of got that when some massive guy jumping up with ya
anyway wileys a wanker…robbed us from about 3 pens..should be sakced
I need a good nap to recover from that…fucking depressing…drained me completely. And that fact that we could’ve actually nicked a completely undeserved win in the end is even more depressing!
THank God for the international break. VDS could have some time to get fit so he can get back in goal instead of that useless cunt
Not happy with the performance,but I think it was a fair result.
They were very disciplined,they worked hard,and they went away from OT with a point,a good result for any team.
Nothing else for me to say that hasn’t been said already.
PS:Sorry if anyone was hoping to see updates from me.I got booted from one room to another which was out of my wi-fi’s reach.
Now that I looked at it, Citeh is 2 games down and if they win both they can overtake us. Farkin’ ‘ell!!
@ Jack
just stay the fuck in goal, no ? the ball will came to you.
@ Mahesh
haha. spot on. but this things happen. Liverpool lose to Vila, Chelsea to Wigan.. we can’t win them all. but the display was really awful.
Jack – is Jones allowed to use his hands? no! I’m no goalkeeping expert but surely any keeper worth his socks is supposed to punch that away, no?
This mus be the worst United performance ever. Did our players think they only have to show up and Sunderland will roll over and let us stroll through.
It was only matter of time when Foster was gonna cost us dear. Even the first Sunderland goal was savable.
I have to say, well done Brucey. They probably deserved much more than they’ve got. I am not worried so much about lost points today as for the fact that other teams will now come to OT and not fear us anymore.
Foster needs to fuck off, he was in the wrong for both goals, how many god damn points has that twat cost us
HEY GUYS
FOSTER WAS OK BUT WAS FOULED FOR THE GOAL JONES LED WITH HIS ARM WASN’T A STRAIGHT FORWAD CATCH IN THE FIRST PLACE. HIS KICKING GAME WAS MUCH BETTER. LITTLE DISAPOINTED IN THE FACT THT OT WAS QUIET AT TIMES. CANT BLAME THEM FOR BOOING AT HALF TIME. FANTASTIC GOAL FROM BERBA THANKS FERDINAND. WE HAD MORE SHOTS AND MORE POSSESION AND WE STILL PLAYED BADLY JUST SHOWS THEIR IS NO POINT IN LOOKING AT STATISTCS TO SUM UP THE GAME. I THINK WE DEFENDED QUITE COMFORTABLY
SUNDERLAND FUSTRATED US BT DIDNT REALLY HAVE MUCH QUALITY WHILE ON THE BALL. JUST GLAD WE DIDNT LOSE.
VALENCIA WAS THE FIRST TO REACT IN THE RUN UP TO THE SECOND GOAL.
REF WAS APPALING TODAY. DOSNT EXCUSE HOW BAD WE WERE FOR MOST OF THE GAME
GOOD JOB WE HAVE A INTERNATIONAL BREAK TO GET THIS GAME OUT OF OUR SYSTEMS
Obertan better be the best fucking winger on the planet otherwise Fergie needs to think about dipping into the Ronaldo funds because this shit isn’t working consistently enough to be a serious title contender.
I don’t what you think about the second goal, but from the TV, it looked like Jones pushed Foster. Isn’t that a foul?
Corea
well someone had to come for it…………………
tony starks. im sure jones jump is higher than fosters..
@ rachelreddevil
We were absolutely awful today. Worse than in Burnley.
Games like this we should win by half time. Foster has blown his chance.
Our standard should be like the second half against Shity. Nothing less.
Jack
Vida came
everyones saying foster was fouled, anyone got the vid of the goal so i can see??? was 2 busy going mad to see the replay
yeah i know corea but most keepers do come for them, would u???
thinking of it prob would of been better to stay on his line like you said and let it come 2 him, oh well we cant change that now
Tony Starks, Jack etc. – I don’t know about a foul – first instinct was foul but actually it looks like Foster just got bloody mauled. And he should have punched the damn thing. You cannot catch the ball when someones bearing down on you. Chances are even if you get your hands on it, its going to spill. He should have just gone in superman style. When you’ve got the option why not use it?
Man does it feel like a lifesaver to have this forum to vent. I usually watch the games alone and after something like this, I would go mad if I had to just go over it in my head again and again!
2007 Reading Portsmouth City
2008 Newcastle Zenit Liverpool
2009 Burnley Sunderland
shit happens. the question is whether we were complacent.
steady and modest in the beginning and after 9 wins we already thought we will win it because we are ManUnited ? Is is so easy to get complacent when you win 3 in a row ? I think Fergie will sort this out.
foster = shit
welbeck = shit
nani = shit
anderson = shit
this is what happens when squad players claim to be starters
My friend just closed his eyes for the last 10 minutes. Looking at the optimistic side, at least we get a point. I’m just hoping the match between Liverpool and Chelsea will end in a draw.
Lads,
I Honestly think credit should be shown to Sunderland who performed fantasticaly.
It has been a long time since a seen a team come to old trafford and out mussle us as they did today!
Our passing today was awful and we had several under performers today.
Although there are the usual suspects i would like to highlight what i was saying about rooney a while back on another thread.
When he gets rattled, Frustrated or whatever he looses his head! His performance drops!.. Rooney plays at his best when he is calm and able to express his ability! I dont remember him having a shot on goal today…When he matures more i think we will see the real wyane rooney in every match.
Foster – Your not doing yourself any favours!!.. Mistake not to punch!
Nani – His crossing got better int he second half, Piss poor first half performance
Wellbeck – Showed it was a little too early for him, I would be supprised if he starts another game for us this year, Maybe the odd and very odd substitutes appearence, Maybe starting 1 at the end of this season. – in the league anyway!
Scholes – looked out of sorts today but didnt have too much options infront of him….
@ Mahesh
I agree. Even with a friend at your side, watching this match can be bloody frustrating.
Jones got to the ball before that cunt, never a foul
i couldnt see VDS conceding those goals although u cant totally blame foster for the goals
Maret, than foster is simply not good enough. I cannot understand how fergie is so patient with him
Scholes had so many misplaced passes in this game.
Rooney is showing the same inconsistency as in recent seasons; scores in 5-6 successive games then goes quiet.
Berbatov was real class though, and his goal was a beauty. Looks like he is going to have a great season.
Keano-Because he sees something we don’t.
GoodNight to all.
NEGATIVE- worst united game ive watched with my daughter
POSITIVE- worst united game ive watched with my daughter and we didnt loose
NEGATIVE-althou Ive been supportive of him Fosters lack of confidence breaths lack of confidence in the defence in him which leads to fletcher dropping back which leads to berba dropping back which leads to Rooney getting pissed at been alone up top and trying to make his own game
POSITIVE- Nani Ive been rightfully hard on this guy and I think he did 95% of things right today in a wrong united game
NEGATIVE- Scholes was really out of sorts
POSITIVE- Berbatov Every game he plays he gets better which sucks on an International break and me wanting ireland to do well
NEGATIVE- Welbeck isnt quiet ready
POSITIVE- Welbeck is showing fantastic signs
NEGATIVE – United dropped 2 points
POSITIVE- United got a point and are top of the league
NIGHT COREA
NEGATIVE- worst united game ive watched with my daughter
POSITIVE- worst united game ive watched with my daughter and we didnt loose
NEGATIVE-althou Ive been supportive of him Fosters lack of confidence breaths lack of confidence in the defence in him which leads to fletcher dropping back which leads to berba dropping back which leads to Rooney getting pissed at been alone up top and trying to make his own game
POSITIVE- Nani Ive been rightfully hard on this guy and I think he did 95% of things right today in a wrong united game
NEGATIVE- Scholes was really out of sorts
POSITIVE- Berbatov Every game he plays he gets better which sucks on an International break and me wanting ireland to do well
NEGATIVE- Welbeck isnt quiet ready
POSITIVE- Welbeck is showing fantastic signs
NEGATIVE – United dropped 2 points
POSITIVE- United got a point and are top of the league
“Because he sees something we don’t.”
which doesn’t mean it’s there
theboogeyman, He’s not good enough, i am not sure what he sees in him. Howard never made so many mistakes, yet he was booted out.
bollocks…..papering over cracks exposed today…..big number squad…..but REAL quality in the individuals. dont want to go into individual post mortems…..but some of these shouldnt be playing for us.
also dismissive disrespectful team SAF…..play the best first 11 every week…fuck this tinkering bollock.
Keano..
I think Foster has alot of potential..
Shite performance today – lucky draw. We should have CRUISED to the top of the table today – instead, we’re just kind of … there. And not for long if we keep continue to play this way. Let’s pray for a 0 – 0 draw at Stamford Bridge, eh?
Dear United: Let’s work on our passing and teamwork, eh, gentlemen? Every player should be able to play with every other player in any formation, not just the players / formations that they’re “used to”. And get rid of the complacency while you’re at it, as well. So what if it’s “just Sunderland” – get in, lads. WE ARE UNITED.
Oh, and nice interview with JT and his wife, Fwank. “Awww”, indeed, Scott! Hee.
ANY YOUR KIDS EVER BEEN A TOPIC
http://www.redcafe.net/f6/who-cares-about-ronaldo-we-have-emily-270132/
FUCK IT TOP OF THE LEAGUE
Foster is there for 3-4 more game then Van Der Sar is Back then january comes and busby knows what will happen keeper wise
Foster is seriously lacking confidence that sends nervous shockwaves through the whole team
so they say dont drop him for the NOTORIOUS P.I.G. because it can fuck with a keepers Confidence
but if thats the return that United get for full faith Id rather another second string keeper that wants prove himself
NOTORIOUS P.I.G. v Bolton
Regarding Welbeck – He seemed to always want to do fancy tricks etc rather than just play the game normally – I have seen that everytime he plays, if he kept it simple he could be so so much more effective. You can see he has proper talent, but he needs to treat the game as a serious Premier league match and not a reserve kickabout
how good was berbatov today
and werent that goal world class
If i supported sunderland i would be devestated at this result, we played shit and deserved it.
propably the players were over confident they would win propably cost them 3 pts. and united were over due a draw anyway
Jack Said,October 3rd, 2009 @20:52 how good was berbatov today
and werent that goal world class
Apart from berbatov who played the best ive seen all season!!
@JACK
You are 100% right
people who know me know i usually stick a berbatov/emily chant here but just off the top of my head im going to make up a chant for united fans who constantly run this fella down
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to the tune of park park who ever you may be
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manunitedchampions2008 where ever you may be
berbatov is fucking quality
he fucks with defenders just for fun
so watch the man apart from reading the sun
i cant believe people say he was shit last season, he scored 14 goals and assisted 14 goals so he brang 28 goals to our team in his first seasonn, thats just world class
the boys magic like ghtt said
Rooney was fucking awful today, words can’t describe how bad he was! All the fans who boo’d at half time are u the same c**ts who thought it was ok to ruin sir alex’s end of season speech singing about that judas?!?
embarrasing that,them 7 changes from saf never helped like, it takes time in a game to connect if you havnt played regularly, then there early goal broke us i think. they must have thought theyd get 3 points just for showing up. dont mean to knock smaller teams but how the fuck do we get beat by teams like this? should be winning these sort of games away never mind at home,bread and butter points. even thought ot lacked atmosphere tonite. foster and nani want fucking shooting,if they not mufc calibre then get rid, iv tried my best to be patient but at me wicks end now.
goal-less draw in the scumfest tomorrow, we shud have put the pressure on the slimy bastards today.
SICK AS A CUNT
WE;L NEVA DIE AND WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!
evra was good aswell i thought..
not a big fan of foster, but come on.. the first goal went thru the defender’s legs, who wrongly predicted the strike and stretched his legs out wide.. surely that wrong-footed him a little..
and as for the second goal, from what i saw on the replays from numerous angles on tv, i’m pretty sure foster got elbowed in the neck while trying to catch the ball.. looked like the striker didn’t even get a touch on the ball!
vidic wasn’t helping foster’s nerves either, playing a couple of dangerous balls to him with the sunderland striker hot in pursuit.
rooney was way off today, but i think he got more frustrated with the poor service from welback after danny made two really bad decisions in my opinion.
first was in the box, rooney was open right in front of him, could’ve rolled an easy ball for rooney to take an easy shot, but he chose to cross the ball all the way to the other end.
second was just outside the box, when he hesitated to pass and instead took a shot that went over the ball. again rooney had run open just past him, and he knew it!
i think welbeck and rooney shouldn’t be played at the same time.. if danny were to start, rooney should start on the bench. see what the boy can do first, then ready to sub rooney in towards the end of the first half to let him warm up and ready to freshen the attack in the second half.
evra was playing well, but his corner kick looked really bad. honestly nani’s corners seemed slightly better in comparison, but then he lost the ball alot too.
berba was huge today! they should be playing off him as much as possible when attacking as he is able to take odd balls and create chances, and doing it without hesitating!
still think it should have been 2-1 in united’s favour.. sunderland’s 2nd goal was absurd!
a point saved at least, thank god!
on topic- Justin Timberlake- cry me a river>!!hahahahahahahahahaah
J T U ARE A PURE TIT,
VIVA JOHN TERRY
VIVA JOHN TERRY
SHUDA WON THE CUP
BUT HE FUCKED UP
VIVA JOHN TERRY
@ Tony Starks
exactly! welbeck seems to think that he’s playing with a floodlight on him! and looked like he was ignoring the fact that rooney was there all the time.
hesitates too much when he gets the ball, and those bad decisions.. man, his display really pissed me off and i was so happy when he was subbed out, wished it was earlier.
Foster needs to take charge. His lack of confidence is passing thru the whole defence. He should of called vidic off and boxed that ball away.
He’s got talent but at what point is that enough.
All in all I’m happy to scrap a point out of this.
Really hope this is a new beginning for berbatov thought he was the peanut ina pile of shit today
Quite frankly, that was atrocious.
The team looked completely flat. Movement was non-existent, passing was second rate. The only two that stood out for me were Berbatov and Fletcher, who were both fighting a lost cause.
Nani was as frustrating as ever. Him and Evra down the left were completely static. It said a lot that, as soon as Nani uncharacteristically made an ambitious run down the wing, it lead to the equaliser. He also needs to beat the first man more.
We didn’t deserve a point, I don’t care what people say.
Off the pitch, what the fuck was that at half-time? Have we been infiltrated with Championship fans? Who the fuck are we to boo them, no matter how bad the first half? We didn’t know that the second half wouldn’t be much better, so it was wrong to boo. Top of the league and some of our fans see it fit to do that.
We also get people streaming out with 5-10 minutes to go. Not a good day for United fans. On the whole, we’ve really showed ourselves up today.
Fergie is wrong to blame the ref.He should look at his own players. Playing like we did today, we should be happy we got something from the game. Bruce should be more aggrieved at ref for sending Richardson off.
Why don’t we start games furiously and peg teams in their box until we score, like we used to do before. Why do we have to leave it for late in the game to get result? Apart from second half against Shity and Tottenham (and Wigan I suppose), we have not played that well. Yes we won, but not convincingly.
We are Manchester UNITED. We must do much better.5 needlessly dropped points.I hope this will be a timely wake up call.
And to ease the pain, I hope rent boys and dippers have a dull nil nil draw tomorrow.
I still think the team as lost that fear factor with ronaldo gone. no offence to nani but he is average at best, he had a decent nani but I think this will be his last year. he is so obsessed to try and be ronaldo when he has none of ronaldos weapons like pace strength ability to score in the air and from free kicks, blasting at devastating power. nani should learn from giggs, again berbatov had an excellent game lets see if he does it all season long not 2 games every 10
I am still fuming at the display, but i think Corea said it very well: Shit happens. However we are 12 games into the season and i have 3 concerns. I will name them and i wonder what you all think:
1) The defence is leaking a lot of goals. Is it Ben’s fault? It’s not like Rio and Vida are doing themselves justice this year. Sunderland scored 2 out of their 3 chances and that’s not Championship winning defence.
2) We struggle to win at OT. That might be a coincedence, but we haven’t beaten teams with more than one goal difference at OT.
3) What has happened to Wazza’s shooting power? Where are his belters? I am not expecting a strike ala Newcastle in 2005, but his shots are becoming more and more tame in my opinion.
@manutdchampions2008:
Good point. I woiuldn’t say we miss Ronnie’s talent, but we miss his fear factor. Sunderland weren’t the least intimidated today. Nani and Valencia for diffeent reasons don’t scare the opposition. The former is too complicated and the latter is too simplistic for their own good…
Can’t wait to read “In Defence Of Ben Foster: Part II”.
Just woeful!
Just wanted to say, I think a result and performance like this brings us down to earth a bit. We are not as good as we think we are, but luckily for us the competition (domestically) is not that amazing either..
But ultimately we should give credit to Sunderland, they played a good game and took their ‘chances’, in the end they were very unlucky not to win the game.
Don’t know why the manager is being so hard on the ref, maybe it’s just frustration at the performance.. it would be better to take a defeat without criticising the ref or the opposition
manutdchampions2008
I keep reading from you about Nani trying to be like Ronaldo
and not for anything Nani is saying or doing
STOP READING PHIL DAOUST
the guy is Nani
he’s not the next anything
Hes Nani and the second he stops having to reach a bar he’ll be his own self
I have no idea how old you are but i can guess you couldnt get a beer today to watch the match
so Ill give you a history lesson from someone with alot of Gray hair
Giggs aka Wilson aka Giggs
a 15/16/17/18 year old even a 19/and somewhat 20 year old player
who could tear a team apart
had everything to just run with the ball
quick feet
and some cheeky tricks
but my god this kids final ball was piss poor
whats the point of taking the ball past 4-5-6 people if ya cant cross it to hughes
And now I’m on a campaign to Knight this man up
he is one of,if not, the best players to ever play football
in 2001 fifa study showed that there was over 140,000,000 registered footballers in world football
and the artist formerly know as Ryan Wilson will be called Sir Ryan Giggs is the best of them all
the next George Best apparently
ghtt.. being quite poetic these days!..
Tony starks
Its my love of the English word
it comes out when i talk about things i love
like canvas bags emily and Manchester united
ROONEY NEEDS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP WHINING AT TEAM MATES. HES JUST ANOTHER PLAYER. WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS? KEANO!?
HE CAN STOP KICKING PLAYERS TOO! NO DOUBT IT WONT GET MENTIONED BY SCOTT SEEING AS ROONEYS HIS NEW LOVE CHILD. IF IT WAS RONALDO..WELL, HE’D HAVE BEEN HOME BY NOW TYPING UP THE REPORT AS WE SPEAK!! IF THERES NO MENTION OF IT SCOTT LOSES ALL OF HIS CREDIBILITY FOR ME, NOT THAT EITHER OF US CARE ANYWAY!
who does he think he is? he thinks he’s just another player who was in the right places at the right times, unmarked and unbelievably open, with the obvious choice being to pass the ball for him to score, of course!
but welbeck’s just the wrong partner for the job
I agree with Tony Starks about Fergie. Today was not the best day to pick a fight with a referee. And it wasn’t in the best taste either. He wants to see fat unfit referees that tire after 30 minutes? He should watch Greek football.
Costas – I think you’re bang on with your observations. The defense does not inspire confidence for whatever reason. Even against wolfsburg I worried every time they, espeically Dzeko got forward. It might be the Ben Foster aspect though, though I admit that’s just piling it on the Foster. The fact though is EDVS you know Vida and Rio and whoever else is in defense is going to get a right rollocking every time they go wrong. He does more than keep goal, he organizes the defense. Foster has his own shit to deal with, forget organizing the defense.
Going forward we are great sometimes, and average too often. In fact I would say that Berba has made us look good this season. If we had a standard ol’ striker we would look absolute crap. Play Owen and Rooney together and see how shit we look.
Rooney really needs to whack the ball. He always seems to dally on the ball when he’s got a longe range shot open. And when he shoots tries to bend it, chip it and what not, and rarely tries to kick the leather off the ball which is his strength. He needs to do that more often. Ronaldo did that and i think the effect of that was always underrated. He might not hit the target often, but sometimes it did go in and more important its just one more thing playing with the goalies head. GKs need to be peppered with variety to get them out of their comfort zone. With Ronnie you never knew what you’d get, with Rooney its all too predictable.
Seriously, Rooney didn’t play well the whole game. I think he needs vacation. Since the last game in CL, he had gone out of stream. I think he had too much pressure on him. On another note, i hate to see them scolding and whining at other players. He should let his feet do the talking. Seeing him is like seeing Ronaldo who keeps complaining all the time. I know many united fans love him but sometimes with all the complaining he is making, it demoralize the team and i don’t like this to happen. Sometimes maybe Rooney think he is the biggest and he got the rights to score or blame other players but for me the fans to see is really bad and i really hate to see.
@Tony Starks Agree with you. I think welbeck is not up for the game yet. He is physically not strong, seems invisible the whole game. Sometimes i feel he seems to me that are the one more lazy than berbatov. He had one shot but should have pass to Rooney. He is too young. I agree that Berbatov and Evra are the best player. I do think vidic are good too.
As for foster, i am losing faith in him. His 2nd goal should have punch it but he wanted to catch it and let the ball in to his own goal. I feel not safe with the ball at his feet and he is not commanding. I am not blaming any players on the pitch, just give my thoughts on the game.
I do think Rooney should be talk by ferguson. In the past, Ronaldo was in our team. Rooney is less frustrated than now. I know his pressure is big but he should also trust his team mates and not thinking he is the boss in this team.
Lastly, it is a disgrace by some of the fans who boo the team!!! Whoever boos is not fit to be united fans. Even if they don’t play well. We should not boo as we know second half we will come out fighting for it. Disgraceful for some of the fans. If they cheer for the team, it might have up the tempo however, the match is so quiet. Fans should cheer the team on when they play badly.
Costas
when you look at the team overall does anyone really put the fear of god into opponents I doubt any united player does rooney I think does. nani has shown he is nothing but a fergie flop. he is not built for the premiership but for the portuguese league thats his level. before he came to united he was nothing special. I think the media hyping rooney and blaming ronaldo for rooney not playing great are starting look like idiots when the sad reality is ronaldo is by far the better player the amount of weapons he has and his ability to play in 3 positions makes him deadly. ronaldo last season was just unhappy he had to stay in the 08/09 season making the team unbalanced to cover up his lazyness. united dont miss him but the team lacks fear factor add the fact fergie has bought the wrong players, it has made his absence of ronaldo worse, when he was happy in the 07/08 season the team had more balance and thats why we got better performences.
dont knw what is more frustrating, nani whos still rubbish or fergies selection of danny welbeck.. as for the ref, fergie would want to give it a rest, we got a favour against city so shut it…
and dont get me started on foster!
why gigg’s wasnt on the bench when we he has 2 weeks off for internationals anyway is clueless to me
manunitedchampions2008 – Seriously man why don’t you go follow the fascists? Thats all you bang on about is Ronnie.
Awful display today not helped by Old Trafford being like a fucking morgue. It was just one of those days when we didn’t turn up , even Fletch wasn’t on song. Have to say if it wasn’t for Carricks last ditch tackle it would have been 3-1. Showed signs when he came on that he may be regaining his form. Cannot believe people saying Anderson was shit. Berba played well. Roll on VDS’s return, no cohesion whatsoever at the back.
Anyway great to see a typical knee jerk reaction after dropping points. From being a team getting better every game to “we are shit” and “people must be sold”. Chill the fuck out.
I do have to say though SAF got it wrong today. Why Wellbeck? Why no giggs in squad?
@Chris20LEGEND Nani is rubbish? If we just compare the 2nd half, he is so good. His crossing is dangerous all the time. Rooney is more worst in this game than nani. Don’t ever pick out the players who is bad. The whole team play badly.
King Eric
what about scot going on about tevez. unlike tevez united have lost maybe 3 to 4 players roled into 1 in ronaldo. it will always be brought up when A we have no quality wingers, B the CM is still awful C the striking department is still thread bear. and D united lack plan B and also united no longer can hold onto the ball and control games. also what about the midfield and wide players, nani and valencia are way short of united standards. look how fast barcelona shiped out queresma under a year and for me queresma is by far a better player than nani.
I didnt bother sifting through the 300 odd messages (maybe someone else has mentioned it) but foster was definitely unfairly challenged for Jones’ goal. Jones led with the arm and elbowed foster in the face. I know goalkeepers get a lot of protection these days(which I dont agree with) but in this case the goal should not have stood.
Having said this though, United were way off the mark today and didnt deserve the three points. Brucey was spot on today in his tactics not being scared and playing 2 up front.
Nothing to worry about today just a blip. Thats why there are 38 games in the season you cant win them all but after the hairdryer today i cant see too many more of these displays….especially at home
…….4 in a row….
Nice to see everyone getting behind the young players (yes I’m being sarcastic)! As always on this site hardly any mention of just how shit Rooney was he seems to go on runs of being un-playable for 6 or seven games followed by 6 or 7 games of being absolutly useless! Seems to me that everyone wants to single players out (welbeck,nani) with no mention of Rooney when he was blatently the worst player in red today! Don’t normally ever single players out but sick of reading about how shit certain players supposedly are yet saint Wayne can do no wrong!
Also can we really judge welbeck off his first start alongside the full first team squad? Get behind the young players stop sighing when they do something wrong, which affects there confidence get behind them they need our support!
ah for fucks sake cantona7! what the hell is wrong with u people?!! why cant u ever open ur eyes and realise that foster simply isnt good enough. why r u so in denial? i’ve been sat here reading people defending him time and time again, on no specific basis. u just defend him cuz hes a damn united player. so what?! who gives a shit. why should that have anything to do with the fact that he is shite. fans slag berbatov off cuz u think “he doesnt run enough”, and yet u r totally blind towards foster! how cud that be?!!! someone explain to me please!
kel, nani is fucking rubbish, if you cant realise that then you need your head examined
giggs made that sod look a right muppet last weekend, giggs should have been starting especially as jd said he wont be playing for 2 weeks,
danny welbeck has been below par in the reserves, a goal against wolves and he starts aswell?
deserved to drop two points for undermining sunderland and bruce
maybe u disagree but i think rooney would be much better at central midfield. he is a good striker but i have to say that he is far better if he plays 1 row behind. forget him as a forward, rvn and cr were better in that position. he would be the best playerin the world in the position of lampard, gerrard. just imagine fletch and wazza strike from the midle. i would love it.
I would not be surprised if the FA changed the design of the EPL trophy next year IF UTD won it this season and the FA decided to ‘retire’ the trophy as a mark of respect for UTD winning it 4 years on the trot. So Terry’s talk of ‘our trophy’ will be seen for what it is – C & N – Crap and Nonsense.
Funited
do not go there putting rooney in CM. we are already thread bear in the striking departmant let alone putting our best player in midfield. I bet you were the same person who though smith could replace keane in CM. rooney is a striker by trade and thats where he belongs.
Worst performance ever? I beg to differ. It was bad, yes. Buy certainly not the worst. People tend to forget the day we lost to Fulham 2-0 last season.
I think Nani played really well. People should remember that he was critized for his final delivery. He took it well and his crossings have been superb on the 2nd half. He deserves some credits in my opinion.
On the other hand Foster. As I said I was one of few people who defended him. But after the 4-3 errors against city, I believe it’s time to explore other option. We surely made mistake when we sold Tim Howard, he’s been phenomenal and influential to Fulham. I guess Sir Alex doesn’t want to repeat the same mistake. But Howard is a far better GK than Foster.
Anderson is looking good. He needs to exercise his finishing touch though. Berbatov is great. But he is rather slow in my opinion. We need him for some brilliant passes but we certainly need a goal scoring machine like we had in Nistelrooij to company Rooney upfront.
Looking fwd to a few weeks from now. Hopefully Obertan is fit by then. I want to see how well his contribution to the team will be as a winger.
@Chris20LEGEND What i mean to say is to see the 2nd half game. Not the whole of the seasons. He put in crosses which is so dangerous. If you say nani is rubbish then why didn’t you say Rooney too? He was equally bad today.
I must say now that i am not complaining and scolding any players but we must be honest and support the player. You can’t always aim at some player for his past games. Nani is good in the 2nd half of this game. his first half is very bad. Rooney is really bad the whole game. I will be honest will what i see of the match and won’t sided or biased with any players and then attack at some players. I bet you also the one who said fletcher is rubbish a few years back.
thereddevil,
on the one hand I think it’s admirable that people will support everything United through thick and thin. on the other hand, it can be downright nearsighted and foolhardy. either way, I suppose that, considering how nobody on here has any impact on the team selection or team results, arguing about who’s effective/ineffective is pointless, really.
thereddevil,
on the one hand I think it’s admirable that people will support everything United through thick and thin. on the other hand, it can be downright nearsighted and foolhardy. either way, I suppose that, considering how nobody on here has any impact on the team selection or team results, arguing about who’s effective/ineffective is pointless, really.
brisbane- where i come from i d call it BULLSHIT. WHY WE WIN THE LEAGUE, WE ARE GOIN TO WIN THE LEAGUE.
SIR RYAN GIGGS,WOULD OF DONE MORE THAN A HANDFULL OF PLAYERS HIMSELF
Nani is gash,plain and simple and Foster is just not good enough for United.He dosent fill our defenders with confidence and he makes too many basic mistakes.
The RadLegion – Tim Howard is at Everton.
Regards Nani I actually thought he had a fairly decent second half.
I’m still embarrassed about the booing. Fuck knows why some of you are condoning it. We’re far, far better than that.
@King Eric Only you with me on that. =)
People seem to forget that Sunderland is no push-over – they are 6th in the table. Brucey is doing a great job as SAF was talking about before the game. They also have a serious strongman in Jones, something we lack and could have given us another dimension to our fine selection of attacking midgets. Yes Foster should have punched instead of trying to catch against that beast – he is 188 and fit like a WWF wrestler. But Foster being at fault for the first goal? Jokers, that was low and next to the post between defenders legs.
Also this talk of Sunderland would have deserved to win – did anyone actually check the stats?
Manchester United Sunderland
2 Goals 2
5 Shots on Target 3
7 Shots off Target 2
8 Blocked Shots 0
15 Corners 1
80.2 Passing Success 67.6
17 Tackles 31
70.6 Tackles Success 87.1
62.3 Possession 37.7
57.6 Territorial Advantage 42.4
So 12 shots for us, 5 for them – plus our 8 blocked (which speaks of Sunderlands diehard attitude). 15-1 in corners???
Yes they were better in tackling, but even with our “shit” passing we were still miles ahead. We even had the ball 2/3rds of the time!
Berba is world class end of – that has to be a contender to Goal of the Year (so far at least). And no need to slag off our youngsters, this was important learning experience for Danny who was even played out of position.
After 3 Premierships in a row it seems as United supporters take a lot for granted. I say well done United to come back twice and for playing to the bitter end. We laid on amazing pressure at the end, and if the ref was not too scared about giving extra time after the Shitty game we could have even won it.
@kel
but fletcher was rubbish, didn’t pay attention to him years back, but definitely last season. either that or i was unfortunate enough to catch only his bad games
watched him pre-season, he looked standard still.. but when the season started proper.. hoo boy did he bring it on.. his performance this season, barring last night of course, totally took me by surprise. the difference from last season is enormous!
the reason we don’t rant on about how bad rooney was last night is because i think everyone fully agrees on it, plain and simple.. there’s nothing else to say lol!
but welbeck!! argh!! btw was he really played as a winger? he doesn’t have an assist brain, only an attacking brain. if they wanted to mold him into a winger at least do the molding in the reserves.. the league is not a place for training wheels.
kel, one of many who called fletcher rubbish? no, actually one of the few who had fletch on the back of me shirt…
tiny tears terry could be a pain in the neck at times, if giggs were to distribute all his trophys, it will go round all chelsea players and the wud still be left overs, UP Giggs, Up United
‘we felt it was our trophy and we’ll come back fighting.’ What a shit comment from a total cunt.