“We’re confident for next season and our main target is to regain the championship,” Terry said at the end of the 2007 season. “We’ll come back stronger. Seeing United lift the trophy the other week was not nice at all and having won it the previous two years, we felt it was our trophy and we’ll come back fighting.”
“We feel we are the best team,” Lampard added. “We haven’t been able to put out our strongest team for a lot of periods but we’ve kept going to the end.”
Liverpool and City fans aside, have you ever come across a pair of more deluded twats? At that point, United had won the Premiership trophy nine times (sixteen times title winners) whilst Chelsea had just won it twice (three times title winners) but Terry believed it was their trophy? What planet is he on? Of course, Chelsea have no won the title since then, with United winning it every year.
Terry has again confirmed the hurt and pain he has suffered over the past few years, along with ‘winners’ Lampard and Drogba.
“To see Man United lift the trophy for the last three years has torn me up inside,” Terry said. “Frank Lampard would say the same thing and Didier Drogba. We are winners. We hated seeing Man United lifting the trophy.”
All together now: awwwww.
evra was good aswell i thought..
not a big fan of foster, but come on.. the first goal went thru the defender’s legs, who wrongly predicted the strike and stretched his legs out wide.. surely that wrong-footed him a little..
and as for the second goal, from what i saw on the replays from numerous angles on tv, i’m pretty sure foster got elbowed in the neck while trying to catch the ball.. looked like the striker didn’t even get a touch on the ball!
vidic wasn’t helping foster’s nerves either, playing a couple of dangerous balls to him with the sunderland striker hot in pursuit.
rooney was way off today, but i think he got more frustrated with the poor service from welback after danny made two really bad decisions in my opinion.
first was in the box, rooney was open right in front of him, could’ve rolled an easy ball for rooney to take an easy shot, but he chose to cross the ball all the way to the other end.
second was just outside the box, when he hesitated to pass and instead took a shot that went over the ball. again rooney had run open just past him, and he knew it!
i think welbeck and rooney shouldn’t be played at the same time.. if danny were to start, rooney should start on the bench. see what the boy can do first, then ready to sub rooney in towards the end of the first half to let him warm up and ready to freshen the attack in the second half.
evra was playing well, but his corner kick looked really bad. honestly nani’s corners seemed slightly better in comparison, but then he lost the ball alot too.
berba was huge today! they should be playing off him as much as possible when attacking as he is able to take odd balls and create chances, and doing it without hesitating!
still think it should have been 2-1 in united’s favour.. sunderland’s 2nd goal was absurd!
a point saved at least, thank god!
on topic- Justin Timberlake- cry me a river>!!hahahahahahahahahaah
J T U ARE A PURE TIT,
VIVA JOHN TERRY
VIVA JOHN TERRY
SHUDA WON THE CUP
BUT HE FUCKED UP
VIVA JOHN TERRY
@ Tony Starks
exactly! welbeck seems to think that he’s playing with a floodlight on him! and looked like he was ignoring the fact that rooney was there all the time.
hesitates too much when he gets the ball, and those bad decisions.. man, his display really pissed me off and i was so happy when he was subbed out, wished it was earlier.
Foster needs to take charge. His lack of confidence is passing thru the whole defence. He should of called vidic off and boxed that ball away.
He’s got talent but at what point is that enough.
All in all I’m happy to scrap a point out of this.
Really hope this is a new beginning for berbatov thought he was the peanut ina pile of shit today
Quite frankly, that was atrocious.
The team looked completely flat. Movement was non-existent, passing was second rate. The only two that stood out for me were Berbatov and Fletcher, who were both fighting a lost cause.
Nani was as frustrating as ever. Him and Evra down the left were completely static. It said a lot that, as soon as Nani uncharacteristically made an ambitious run down the wing, it lead to the equaliser. He also needs to beat the first man more.
We didn’t deserve a point, I don’t care what people say.
Off the pitch, what the fuck was that at half-time? Have we been infiltrated with Championship fans? Who the fuck are we to boo them, no matter how bad the first half? We didn’t know that the second half wouldn’t be much better, so it was wrong to boo. Top of the league and some of our fans see it fit to do that.
We also get people streaming out with 5-10 minutes to go. Not a good day for United fans. On the whole, we’ve really showed ourselves up today.
Fergie is wrong to blame the ref.He should look at his own players. Playing like we did today, we should be happy we got something from the game. Bruce should be more aggrieved at ref for sending Richardson off.
Why don’t we start games furiously and peg teams in their box until we score, like we used to do before. Why do we have to leave it for late in the game to get result? Apart from second half against Shity and Tottenham (and Wigan I suppose), we have not played that well. Yes we won, but not convincingly.
We are Manchester UNITED. We must do much better.5 needlessly dropped points.I hope this will be a timely wake up call.
And to ease the pain, I hope rent boys and dippers have a dull nil nil draw tomorrow.
I still think the team as lost that fear factor with ronaldo gone. no offence to nani but he is average at best, he had a decent nani but I think this will be his last year. he is so obsessed to try and be ronaldo when he has none of ronaldos weapons like pace strength ability to score in the air and from free kicks, blasting at devastating power. nani should learn from giggs, again berbatov had an excellent game lets see if he does it all season long not 2 games every 10
I am still fuming at the display, but i think Corea said it very well: Shit happens. However we are 12 games into the season and i have 3 concerns. I will name them and i wonder what you all think:
1) The defence is leaking a lot of goals. Is it Ben’s fault? It’s not like Rio and Vida are doing themselves justice this year. Sunderland scored 2 out of their 3 chances and that’s not Championship winning defence.
2) We struggle to win at OT. That might be a coincedence, but we haven’t beaten teams with more than one goal difference at OT.
3) What has happened to Wazza’s shooting power? Where are his belters? I am not expecting a strike ala Newcastle in 2005, but his shots are becoming more and more tame in my opinion.
@manutdchampions2008:
Good point. I woiuldn’t say we miss Ronnie’s talent, but we miss his fear factor. Sunderland weren’t the least intimidated today. Nani and Valencia for diffeent reasons don’t scare the opposition. The former is too complicated and the latter is too simplistic for their own good…
Can’t wait to read “In Defence Of Ben Foster: Part II”.
Just woeful!
Just wanted to say, I think a result and performance like this brings us down to earth a bit. We are not as good as we think we are, but luckily for us the competition (domestically) is not that amazing either..
But ultimately we should give credit to Sunderland, they played a good game and took their ‘chances’, in the end they were very unlucky not to win the game.
Don’t know why the manager is being so hard on the ref, maybe it’s just frustration at the performance.. it would be better to take a defeat without criticising the ref or the opposition
manutdchampions2008
I keep reading from you about Nani trying to be like Ronaldo
and not for anything Nani is saying or doing
STOP READING PHIL DAOUST
the guy is Nani
he’s not the next anything
Hes Nani and the second he stops having to reach a bar he’ll be his own self
I have no idea how old you are but i can guess you couldnt get a beer today to watch the match
so Ill give you a history lesson from someone with alot of Gray hair
Giggs aka Wilson aka Giggs
a 15/16/17/18 year old even a 19/and somewhat 20 year old player
who could tear a team apart
had everything to just run with the ball
quick feet
and some cheeky tricks
but my god this kids final ball was piss poor
whats the point of taking the ball past 4-5-6 people if ya cant cross it to hughes
And now I’m on a campaign to Knight this man up
he is one of,if not, the best players to ever play football
in 2001 fifa study showed that there was over 140,000,000 registered footballers in world football
and the artist formerly know as Ryan Wilson will be called Sir Ryan Giggs is the best of them all
the next George Best apparently
ghtt.. being quite poetic these days!..
Tony starks
Its my love of the English word
it comes out when i talk about things i love
like canvas bags emily and Manchester united
ROONEY NEEDS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP WHINING AT TEAM MATES. HES JUST ANOTHER PLAYER. WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS? KEANO!?
HE CAN STOP KICKING PLAYERS TOO! NO DOUBT IT WONT GET MENTIONED BY SCOTT SEEING AS ROONEYS HIS NEW LOVE CHILD. IF IT WAS RONALDO..WELL, HE’D HAVE BEEN HOME BY NOW TYPING UP THE REPORT AS WE SPEAK!! IF THERES NO MENTION OF IT SCOTT LOSES ALL OF HIS CREDIBILITY FOR ME, NOT THAT EITHER OF US CARE ANYWAY!
who does he think he is? he thinks he’s just another player who was in the right places at the right times, unmarked and unbelievably open, with the obvious choice being to pass the ball for him to score, of course!
but welbeck’s just the wrong partner for the job
I agree with Tony Starks about Fergie. Today was not the best day to pick a fight with a referee. And it wasn’t in the best taste either. He wants to see fat unfit referees that tire after 30 minutes? He should watch Greek football.
Costas – I think you’re bang on with your observations. The defense does not inspire confidence for whatever reason. Even against wolfsburg I worried every time they, espeically Dzeko got forward. It might be the Ben Foster aspect though, though I admit that’s just piling it on the Foster. The fact though is EDVS you know Vida and Rio and whoever else is in defense is going to get a right rollocking every time they go wrong. He does more than keep goal, he organizes the defense. Foster has his own shit to deal with, forget organizing the defense.
Going forward we are great sometimes, and average too often. In fact I would say that Berba has made us look good this season. If we had a standard ol’ striker we would look absolute crap. Play Owen and Rooney together and see how shit we look.
Rooney really needs to whack the ball. He always seems to dally on the ball when he’s got a longe range shot open. And when he shoots tries to bend it, chip it and what not, and rarely tries to kick the leather off the ball which is his strength. He needs to do that more often. Ronaldo did that and i think the effect of that was always underrated. He might not hit the target often, but sometimes it did go in and more important its just one more thing playing with the goalies head. GKs need to be peppered with variety to get them out of their comfort zone. With Ronnie you never knew what you’d get, with Rooney its all too predictable.
Seriously, Rooney didn’t play well the whole game. I think he needs vacation. Since the last game in CL, he had gone out of stream. I think he had too much pressure on him. On another note, i hate to see them scolding and whining at other players. He should let his feet do the talking. Seeing him is like seeing Ronaldo who keeps complaining all the time. I know many united fans love him but sometimes with all the complaining he is making, it demoralize the team and i don’t like this to happen. Sometimes maybe Rooney think he is the biggest and he got the rights to score or blame other players but for me the fans to see is really bad and i really hate to see.
@Tony Starks Agree with you. I think welbeck is not up for the game yet. He is physically not strong, seems invisible the whole game. Sometimes i feel he seems to me that are the one more lazy than berbatov. He had one shot but should have pass to Rooney. He is too young. I agree that Berbatov and Evra are the best player. I do think vidic are good too.
As for foster, i am losing faith in him. His 2nd goal should have punch it but he wanted to catch it and let the ball in to his own goal. I feel not safe with the ball at his feet and he is not commanding. I am not blaming any players on the pitch, just give my thoughts on the game.
I do think Rooney should be talk by ferguson. In the past, Ronaldo was in our team. Rooney is less frustrated than now. I know his pressure is big but he should also trust his team mates and not thinking he is the boss in this team.
Lastly, it is a disgrace by some of the fans who boo the team!!! Whoever boos is not fit to be united fans. Even if they don’t play well. We should not boo as we know second half we will come out fighting for it. Disgraceful for some of the fans. If they cheer for the team, it might have up the tempo however, the match is so quiet. Fans should cheer the team on when they play badly.
Costas
when you look at the team overall does anyone really put the fear of god into opponents I doubt any united player does rooney I think does. nani has shown he is nothing but a fergie flop. he is not built for the premiership but for the portuguese league thats his level. before he came to united he was nothing special. I think the media hyping rooney and blaming ronaldo for rooney not playing great are starting look like idiots when the sad reality is ronaldo is by far the better player the amount of weapons he has and his ability to play in 3 positions makes him deadly. ronaldo last season was just unhappy he had to stay in the 08/09 season making the team unbalanced to cover up his lazyness. united dont miss him but the team lacks fear factor add the fact fergie has bought the wrong players, it has made his absence of ronaldo worse, when he was happy in the 07/08 season the team had more balance and thats why we got better performences.
dont knw what is more frustrating, nani whos still rubbish or fergies selection of danny welbeck.. as for the ref, fergie would want to give it a rest, we got a favour against city so shut it…
and dont get me started on foster!
why gigg’s wasnt on the bench when we he has 2 weeks off for internationals anyway is clueless to me
manunitedchampions2008 – Seriously man why don’t you go follow the fascists? Thats all you bang on about is Ronnie.
Awful display today not helped by Old Trafford being like a fucking morgue. It was just one of those days when we didn’t turn up , even Fletch wasn’t on song. Have to say if it wasn’t for Carricks last ditch tackle it would have been 3-1. Showed signs when he came on that he may be regaining his form. Cannot believe people saying Anderson was shit. Berba played well. Roll on VDS’s return, no cohesion whatsoever at the back.
Anyway great to see a typical knee jerk reaction after dropping points. From being a team getting better every game to “we are shit” and “people must be sold”. Chill the fuck out.
I do have to say though SAF got it wrong today. Why Wellbeck? Why no giggs in squad?
@Chris20LEGEND Nani is rubbish? If we just compare the 2nd half, he is so good. His crossing is dangerous all the time. Rooney is more worst in this game than nani. Don’t ever pick out the players who is bad. The whole team play badly.
King Eric
what about scot going on about tevez. unlike tevez united have lost maybe 3 to 4 players roled into 1 in ronaldo. it will always be brought up when A we have no quality wingers, B the CM is still awful C the striking department is still thread bear. and D united lack plan B and also united no longer can hold onto the ball and control games. also what about the midfield and wide players, nani and valencia are way short of united standards. look how fast barcelona shiped out queresma under a year and for me queresma is by far a better player than nani.
I didnt bother sifting through the 300 odd messages (maybe someone else has mentioned it) but foster was definitely unfairly challenged for Jones’ goal. Jones led with the arm and elbowed foster in the face. I know goalkeepers get a lot of protection these days(which I dont agree with) but in this case the goal should not have stood.
Having said this though, United were way off the mark today and didnt deserve the three points. Brucey was spot on today in his tactics not being scared and playing 2 up front.
Nothing to worry about today just a blip. Thats why there are 38 games in the season you cant win them all but after the hairdryer today i cant see too many more of these displays….especially at home
…….4 in a row….
Nice to see everyone getting behind the young players (yes I’m being sarcastic)! As always on this site hardly any mention of just how shit Rooney was he seems to go on runs of being un-playable for 6 or seven games followed by 6 or 7 games of being absolutly useless! Seems to me that everyone wants to single players out (welbeck,nani) with no mention of Rooney when he was blatently the worst player in red today! Don’t normally ever single players out but sick of reading about how shit certain players supposedly are yet saint Wayne can do no wrong!
Also can we really judge welbeck off his first start alongside the full first team squad? Get behind the young players stop sighing when they do something wrong, which affects there confidence get behind them they need our support!
ah for fucks sake cantona7! what the hell is wrong with u people?!! why cant u ever open ur eyes and realise that foster simply isnt good enough. why r u so in denial? i’ve been sat here reading people defending him time and time again, on no specific basis. u just defend him cuz hes a damn united player. so what?! who gives a shit. why should that have anything to do with the fact that he is shite. fans slag berbatov off cuz u think “he doesnt run enough”, and yet u r totally blind towards foster! how cud that be?!!! someone explain to me please!
kel, nani is fucking rubbish, if you cant realise that then you need your head examined
giggs made that sod look a right muppet last weekend, giggs should have been starting especially as jd said he wont be playing for 2 weeks,
danny welbeck has been below par in the reserves, a goal against wolves and he starts aswell?
deserved to drop two points for undermining sunderland and bruce
maybe u disagree but i think rooney would be much better at central midfield. he is a good striker but i have to say that he is far better if he plays 1 row behind. forget him as a forward, rvn and cr were better in that position. he would be the best playerin the world in the position of lampard, gerrard. just imagine fletch and wazza strike from the midle. i would love it.
I would not be surprised if the FA changed the design of the EPL trophy next year IF UTD won it this season and the FA decided to ‘retire’ the trophy as a mark of respect for UTD winning it 4 years on the trot. So Terry’s talk of ‘our trophy’ will be seen for what it is – C & N – Crap and Nonsense.
Funited
do not go there putting rooney in CM. we are already thread bear in the striking departmant let alone putting our best player in midfield. I bet you were the same person who though smith could replace keane in CM. rooney is a striker by trade and thats where he belongs.
Worst performance ever? I beg to differ. It was bad, yes. Buy certainly not the worst. People tend to forget the day we lost to Fulham 2-0 last season.
I think Nani played really well. People should remember that he was critized for his final delivery. He took it well and his crossings have been superb on the 2nd half. He deserves some credits in my opinion.
On the other hand Foster. As I said I was one of few people who defended him. But after the 4-3 errors against city, I believe it’s time to explore other option. We surely made mistake when we sold Tim Howard, he’s been phenomenal and influential to Fulham. I guess Sir Alex doesn’t want to repeat the same mistake. But Howard is a far better GK than Foster.
Anderson is looking good. He needs to exercise his finishing touch though. Berbatov is great. But he is rather slow in my opinion. We need him for some brilliant passes but we certainly need a goal scoring machine like we had in Nistelrooij to company Rooney upfront.
Looking fwd to a few weeks from now. Hopefully Obertan is fit by then. I want to see how well his contribution to the team will be as a winger.
@Chris20LEGEND What i mean to say is to see the 2nd half game. Not the whole of the seasons. He put in crosses which is so dangerous. If you say nani is rubbish then why didn’t you say Rooney too? He was equally bad today.
I must say now that i am not complaining and scolding any players but we must be honest and support the player. You can’t always aim at some player for his past games. Nani is good in the 2nd half of this game. his first half is very bad. Rooney is really bad the whole game. I will be honest will what i see of the match and won’t sided or biased with any players and then attack at some players. I bet you also the one who said fletcher is rubbish a few years back.
thereddevil,
on the one hand I think it’s admirable that people will support everything United through thick and thin. on the other hand, it can be downright nearsighted and foolhardy. either way, I suppose that, considering how nobody on here has any impact on the team selection or team results, arguing about who’s effective/ineffective is pointless, really.
thereddevil,
on the one hand I think it’s admirable that people will support everything United through thick and thin. on the other hand, it can be downright nearsighted and foolhardy. either way, I suppose that, considering how nobody on here has any impact on the team selection or team results, arguing about who’s effective/ineffective is pointless, really.
brisbane- where i come from i d call it BULLSHIT. WHY WE WIN THE LEAGUE, WE ARE GOIN TO WIN THE LEAGUE.
SIR RYAN GIGGS,WOULD OF DONE MORE THAN A HANDFULL OF PLAYERS HIMSELF
Nani is gash,plain and simple and Foster is just not good enough for United.He dosent fill our defenders with confidence and he makes too many basic mistakes.
The RadLegion – Tim Howard is at Everton.
Regards Nani I actually thought he had a fairly decent second half.
I’m still embarrassed about the booing. Fuck knows why some of you are condoning it. We’re far, far better than that.
@King Eric Only you with me on that. =)
People seem to forget that Sunderland is no push-over – they are 6th in the table. Brucey is doing a great job as SAF was talking about before the game. They also have a serious strongman in Jones, something we lack and could have given us another dimension to our fine selection of attacking midgets. Yes Foster should have punched instead of trying to catch against that beast – he is 188 and fit like a WWF wrestler. But Foster being at fault for the first goal? Jokers, that was low and next to the post between defenders legs.
Also this talk of Sunderland would have deserved to win – did anyone actually check the stats?
Manchester United Sunderland
2 Goals 2
5 Shots on Target 3
7 Shots off Target 2
8 Blocked Shots 0
15 Corners 1
80.2 Passing Success 67.6
17 Tackles 31
70.6 Tackles Success 87.1
62.3 Possession 37.7
57.6 Territorial Advantage 42.4
So 12 shots for us, 5 for them – plus our 8 blocked (which speaks of Sunderlands diehard attitude). 15-1 in corners???
Yes they were better in tackling, but even with our “shit” passing we were still miles ahead. We even had the ball 2/3rds of the time!
Berba is world class end of – that has to be a contender to Goal of the Year (so far at least). And no need to slag off our youngsters, this was important learning experience for Danny who was even played out of position.
After 3 Premierships in a row it seems as United supporters take a lot for granted. I say well done United to come back twice and for playing to the bitter end. We laid on amazing pressure at the end, and if the ref was not too scared about giving extra time after the Shitty game we could have even won it.
@kel
but fletcher was rubbish, didn’t pay attention to him years back, but definitely last season. either that or i was unfortunate enough to catch only his bad games
watched him pre-season, he looked standard still.. but when the season started proper.. hoo boy did he bring it on.. his performance this season, barring last night of course, totally took me by surprise. the difference from last season is enormous!
the reason we don’t rant on about how bad rooney was last night is because i think everyone fully agrees on it, plain and simple.. there’s nothing else to say lol!
but welbeck!! argh!! btw was he really played as a winger? he doesn’t have an assist brain, only an attacking brain. if they wanted to mold him into a winger at least do the molding in the reserves.. the league is not a place for training wheels.
kel, one of many who called fletcher rubbish? no, actually one of the few who had fletch on the back of me shirt…
tiny tears terry could be a pain in the neck at times, if giggs were to distribute all his trophys, it will go round all chelsea players and the wud still be left overs, UP Giggs, Up United
‘we felt it was our trophy and we’ll come back fighting.’ What a shit comment from a total cunt.