Following his Gold Cup success, Javier Hernandez is looking forward to joining up with his Manchester United team mates.
“I’ve been treated wonderfully in Manchester, and I simply need to repay that faith,” said Chicharito. “I had a very good first season and I hope to be able to contribute much more. I think there are good times ahead with this team and I’m very excited about the opportunities ahead in the coming season.”
Some players struggle in a new country, particularly early on in their career, but Chicharito has explained why he has avoiding the struggle.
“Moving to a new country is always difficult, but the fact my dad and my sister came to live with me was a huge help,” he continued. “That made things easier. In fact, what I miss most about Mexico isn’t the food or the customs, it’s my family and the way we’d all sit around chatting together on an evening.”
Another issue for players is the language barrier, but our Mexican spoke English before he came to Manchester and has been improving on this since making the move.
“I spoke pretty well when I first arrived here, and since then I’ve been improving bit by bit, understanding more and more and speaking better,” he said. “But the truth is that knowing English was a massive help, because it meant I could communicate in the dressing room and get to know my colleagues more quickly.”
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Such a buzz of excitement everytime his name is on the teamsheet.
So down to earth as well, thank you Chico and thank you SAF for finding this gem
Well Chico,just keep banging them goals in against the scousers,rentboiz,bitters and gooners..After all that,imma just give you my sister and she’s so damn gorgeous..
Put this boy next to the Troll and it represents what a class act Chico actually is,
My god I’d hate to be a city fan!
He will to score atleast 20 league goals in the coming season,take my word for it.
Great lad. Fucking love you Chicha.
He will to score? meant to say he will
@Lloyd™
Wonder what Berba would make of your prediction…
GEM
@kanchelskis Berba dont need to worry about that,he will score 25 himself,Wazza 30,Danny 10,Kiko 11,Owen 8
^and these are my words
Lloyd: Sounds like lovley predictions to me ;o)
Balotelli he is not…
Just slightly concerned with RedScotX’s opinion of his own sister, but hey to each his own!
Lloyd™
Lol. 104 league goals from our strikers alone. I like the sound of that!
@ Redfacedassasin,
My friends tell me that all the time,so i thought Chico is the only dude im ma give her to..
But seriously dude,that was kinda crazy.
Anyone know did he sign a extension yet,thought the club said it was going to happen
Love him!!
Good lad
^BabyfacedPRICK,
hope you got the low down,bro??
Serious man crush on this kid. I actually fancy him.
King Eric i’m getting really worried your turning,not that there’s anything wrong in that.
anyway looks like the rentboys are close to signing Pastore which probably means the Modric deal is dead in the water and De Rossi /Roma contract talks have broken down.Not saying utd should sign either i’m sure the rumors will start again.
Everybody Loves Chicha.
Legend
Don’t worry Chicha, no one misses Mexican food once they’ve left the country either. If you’re dying for refried rat, head over to Merseyside, but wear a disguise!
Love this kid, most natural poacher I’ve seen in the prem for some time, the lad could score at the Lillith Fair
It’s great that Chica knows the language and is still learning. I think David De Gea has said he’s already started to learn English too. Unlike Tevez obviously, who after five years knows nothing.
Phil Neville on the MLS: “I have a real fascination for this country, I just think that the way they do things, I love the attention to deal with facilities and everything, and it’s something that when my career’s finished or just at the end, I could see myself coming out here and enjoying my time here.”
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/everton-skipper-neville-targets-mls-swansong-i-love-positive-attitude-1776261
I am aware that Phil is no longer a United player. However, there are many United supporters who still love the lad, and as it is off-season, a few links to ex-players is not amiss.
“Barcelona are the team of the moment,” said Ferguson. “It is a cycle. It is the same players. They can dominate any game and could have probably done that to any other team. But it is not the kind of thing that makes you think, ‘let’s not bother with European football any more, we are never going to beat Barcelona’. Manchester United are bigger than that. We have a better philosophy than that. The challenge will be [to] improve enough to get to the final next season and win it.”
http://www.newdesignworld.com/press/story/388616
Rooney to get 25+ goals and a ridiculous amount of assists.
Hernandez IF he is a regular starter will get 25+ too. League top scorer.
Berba (let’s face it he’s not first choice now) to get 10-15. Still a lot of assists though.
Owen depending on how much time he gets could get 10+. He’s our best finisher and just look at his goals to minutes ratio. Class act.
Macheda and Welbeck probably not a lot of games in the league, but with the cup competitions they could get us 5 to 10 goals.
Lots of goals this season. Add to that Nani, Young, ‘big midfield signing #1′ too, we are going to be unstoppable this year.
The FLy – Any more news from your sources regarding signings?
Somebody tell Hernandez that he nothing to “repay”. He has surprised us with his first season and given himself enough brownie points to last through a possible “2nd season symdrome” if it ever occurs. Or a bad injury patch, or just a poor patch of form (as long as it did not last 3/4 of a season).
2011-12, it’s gonna be a great season to look forward, what with it being the first season of transition (of two I reckon) since the “changeover”. Or the beginning of another 10 years depending on how you look at it.
Come on the fly, give us some good news
Lil Pea is a Mexican Icon already.
sublime player in around the 18 yard box, a ruthless finisher but he knows and sir alex knows that he has aspects of his game that needs improving.
It’s all great banging in the goals (which he does for fun) but his all round game needs to get better, first touch and close control needs to improve, passing needs to get better, holding up the ball with strength and overall technique if he wants to become a true world clasS striker.
Next season will be key for him, if he can maintain that consistency which hopefully he will, his potential is fantastic.sublime player in around the 18 yard box, a ruthless finisher but he knows and sir alex knows that he has aspects of his game that needs improving.
It’s all great banging in the goals (which he does for fun) but his all round game needs to get better, first touch and close control needs to improve, passing needs to get better, holding up the ball with strength and overall technique if he wants to become a true world clasS striker.
Next season will be key for him, if he can maintain that consistency which hopefully he will, his potential is fantastic.
Out side of border states Chicago has the biggest Mexican population, they were crushed Lil Pea did not play there. Lil Pea shits everyplace at the game.
to have talent is not enough, but adding the right attitude to it makes it great, this is what hernandez has and this is what will ultimately push him towards world class.
@ Zibbie
“Lil Pea shits everyplace at the game…?”
Consequences of serving Sheppard’s Pie at the stadium I reckon.
Cundy the fat fuck has started talking about barton joining united, lets put his horrible past aside he really isn’t good enough for united. fuck all that bulldog spirit steel crap, at the highest level that pretty much is useless, we’d end up with ten men every fucking game.Cundy the fat fuck has started talking about barton joining united, lets put his horrible past aside he really isn’t good enough for united. fuck all that bulldog spirit steel crap, at the highest level that pretty much is useless, we’d end up with ten men every fucking game.
Agree he has nothing to repay.
It’s been a long time since I got such a kick out of a new player – right from the first game at aChivas where he scored against us. The whole unfolding season was a joy.
Seeing him in that video being made an honorary tourism ambassador for his home state Jalisco and all he could do was apologize to his family for not being a complete son/.brother etc. He might be the classiest player we’ve ever seen. Even more than Messi (who also seems like a lovely person)
Spot on – the game has moved on and if we need crunchers we got Fletch and Park can do a decent job of heelsnapping as well. Bulldog, my foot – more like bullshit
Marseille v Manchester United
TUE 2 AUG, 7.45PM
http://tv.sky.com/marseille-v-manchester-united
http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2011/07/14/2574620/manchester-united-and-inter-agree-on-fee-for-wesley-sneijder
old last Friday but still….
@Samuel – united WE stand
I wouldn’t worry about TalkSport in general. Their shows are designed to provoke debate and get people phoning in, ergo making cash from all the numpties on hold.
They know that pretty much every United fan is feeling pretty sick about the idea so it’s a good cash cow.
It’s always the same set-up. They have an aggressor (ie… Durham, Cundy etc) who take the left-wing side of the argument and then someone like Gough to offer the more rational and accepted opinion. How people get sucked in to their drivel is beyond me.
@Zibbie
There I was hoping that was a new article
Chica’s Gold
He’s our Chicharito
And United love the way that this boy plays
The scoring records he’ll be breaking
And Scousers-he cuts them like a knife
He’s our Chicharito
And we all fucking love the way he plays
The chances he’s always taking
He brings such fucking joy into my life
(Woooooooaaaaaaawwwwwwwwww)
He’s no clown he won’t back down
He’s nothing like dirty Leeds who just go down
down down down down down down down down down
He’s standing alone
He’s pure fucking gold
He’s banging the goals in
He’s standing alone
He’s pure fucking gold
He’s banging the goals in
Chi-ca’s Gold.
(I’m not saying this is in any way half decent, but Monday has almost been and gone so fuck it, why the fudge not eh?)
Hernandez>Aguero
Stone Roses>Oasis
Dusted.
gtull I had a warning with it, still as Fly has told us Inters chief quit, wee wes mums tweeting I did not see this story posted in red?!
Slow day on RoM…..
I wish Cedars and Willie were doing their wee wes dance.
The regulars talking, dumb cunts showing up and getting slammed.
A fresh rumor like Man Utd set to sign the next big thing.
Truck in the shop….
Javier
I have no sources. I just look everywhere to see if anyone knows anything. Multiple people saying there is another meeting tomorrow and the only issue at the moment is Inter want something to do with image rights, but United won’t pay for it. Something like that. If the deal doesn’t happen it is totally because United won’t pay over 35 million. Again though, this is NOT my personal information.
In funnier news, if you haven’t seen it already check out Scott’s twitter. He’s had a little dig at and Joey Barton. Good stuff.
Stone Roses > Oasis
Absolutely. Roses debut album is possibly the best of all time. Ian Brown and Mani, legends (who I have had the pleasure of meeting).
Chicharito was the bargain of the season. Torres, on the other hand, was not.
Marcel Desailly considers the decision to fire Carlo Ancelotti:
“Yes [I was surprised at the club’s decision], because he was doing well in the league and this year he faced a very difficult Manchester United, who had huge statistics at home,” said Desailly to Goal.com. “Probably the only reason why he was let go was because [club owner] Roman Abramovich felt that he didn’t fit in Torres. He didn’t know how to put him in the set-up offensively.“
We have the ladyboy to thank for what will be a poor season for Chelsea.
The water from Oasis is not red. The blood from Stone Roses is.
Chico scores like giggsy at a family party, fukin legend
sell Chico…. buy Balottelli…..
BIGTONE spouts shit from the mouth what his ass does on the bowl, fuking legend.
YorYor eh?
@TonyBee is that a joke or what.
whats happening,slow slow day on RoM,its like most of the RoMers went on vacation.whats happening,slow slow day on RoM,its like most of the RoMers went on vacation.
Stone Roses = Legends
Special! 2 holidays for the price of one!
I think everyone has rushed out to buy Sensodyne!!
@lloyd Probably is a bit of vacation. I just got back from Chicago late last night. Couldn’t talk about some of the updates during the weekend, because my phone was not able to click the “submit my comment” button on RoM. Had to have been one of the best weekends of my life. I got to see United live for the first time (been a fan for 10 years), got to meet Gary Neville, Bryan Robson, and Andy Cole and took pictures with them and the EPL trophy, got their signatures on an old school United jersey, got to touch the trophy, and went to a United training session and got a dozen or so autographs on a United ball. Turns out David De Gea still doesn’t speak a lick of English. Ben Amos said not to try to speak to him in English because it makes him nervous. I also learned that Park’s song is not socially acceptable in Chicago. Something about Asians being offended by the dog eating line. Does anyone know a good site to post pictures publicly? I got some decent pics from United’s training on Friday that I’d like to share.
ryan7 – You lucky fish! Wonderful moments that will be treasured memories!
Ryan7 – Good work fella
ryan7 – Do you think that United should rather always pre-season close to England?
@ryan7 you trying to make me jealous or what
This is the first summer in a long time when I won’t be visitin the states. Gutted. Would have loved to have been in Chicago Saturday night, somewhere I have never been.
mikekelly12, gutted by the Chicago fire.
Chico has such class and so grounded, i also feel he has no extra dues to pay. Just survive 2nd season syndrome, which i know he will, and he’ll do just fine.
+ can a birthday lad get any love from RoM?
has anyone noticed Lou Macari his one negative bastard, always talking down on United every time on Man utd tv and talk shit aswell he should go work for Sky.
@smartalex Not sure if this answers your question, but I don’t really care where they do pre-season as long as it it accomplished 2 things:
1) gives the team a proper warm-up with physical competition.
2) makes United lots of money for the sake of player investment/ debt reduction
That being said, while there may be lots of money in Asia, I’m not convinced the competition is physical enough to prepare United for a new season against the likes of Bolton, Stoke, etc.
United has done well financially in the US (as judged by ticket sales/ kit sales & other products that I saw) and while the MLS is not a fantastic league, they have a variety of players and styles that I feel better prepares the players than Asia. I do not think South Africa was a good choice because they only have Orlando Pirates and Kaizer Chiefs that are any decent. With most of Europe having established leagues with strong followings domestically, I think the US is probably amongst the best options.
@lloyd Lol sorry. My boss is from Manchester and she told me I need to close a few more deals before she will like me again.
SirAlex’sSon happy bathday lad
SirAlex’sSon happy bathday lad 
Fucking hell what a top lad when you see how chico acts and his attitude compered to a tool like ballotelli deserves all of his success
Liam gallagher is a fucking idiot. Always tried to be an Ian Brown wannabe. Not in the same league as the roses. Having said that I like many others was pissed off with the second coming. Five years waiting for that.
Sir Alexs son. Happy Birthday lad.
I like Oasis, looking forward to hearing Noel’s new material.
Hernandez has nothing to repay.
@mikekelly12
Chicago is a nice city but plan to spend a fortune on parking. It cost me $24 to park for an hour and a half so I could meet Gary, Bryan, and Andy.
Ryan – Worth every penny though eh.
Damu. Ha. I do like Lou BUT yes he can be one miserable negative bastard. What annoys me however is his pronunciation of manchester united. “Manch United“ he says.
@mikekelly12 Absolutely, but only because of United.
Bloody love the lad, so inspiring….
Evening all true REDS
SirAlex’sSon
Happy birthday, have a blast!
Definition of a class act
http://www.footytube.com/video/manchester-united-chelsea-may08-81435?ref=hp_ozeit_mp
Still gives me goose bumps whenever I see how he celebrated his goal…..
The boss at it again lol.
Asked about transfers, he said, the player I want, is not available…?
Cryptic Fergie lol.
Happy birthday SirAlex’sSon!
Sir Alex at it again, of course I am not available, how many times do I need to tell him that!
Damu – I agree with on Lou… I wonder that too many a times.
May be its just his personality. Strange though, even when the presenters are trying to inject some positive energy in to the interview, he still doesn’t.
ryan7 nice I was there as well, my 3rd Man Utd game here in the US, I live 3 hours west of Chicago on the Mississippi and we took a Motor home and tailgated for for 2 hours and partied in the lot for hours after the game and made our way home. I met SAF the last time. This time just the game. Of 7 guys 4 were footy fans and all 3 who went for the fun, got caught up in it. Once they got the offside rule they were hooked. 2 of them bought kits with Rooney’s #10 and their own names.
!!!Happy Birthday!!! SirAlex’sSon
Thanks for the link Cedars
@SirAlex’sSon celebrate another mark on the chalkboard of life. Have many more…..in a healthy state…
Cedars – Not you! If we can’t get our mystery midfielder, we’ll go with what we have. I guess, that makes you a happy Red?
Cedars. Hello mate. Yeah that goal against Chelsea was one of my favourite goals last term. Was lucky enough to be there that day and it was fucking electric. Whaty a finish and like you say great celebration. His running into the corner and jumping on Rooney. You can tell Rooney loves playing with the kid aswell. Those two will be unplayable this coming season. I don’t subscribe to this second season stuff. Hernandez is top drawer and if anythig will be even better. He has bulked up a hell of a lot and Fergie says he works so hard in training and is one of last to leave. This kid is a cult hero at United and will get even bigger. God I love him !
Willie
Happy indeed!
soren
Pleasure
King Eric
Well said my friend and to be honest the lad to so fucking lovable its unreal! Lucky you, being there that day, must have been special.
I easily see him being our main front man for years to come…..
36 seconds
the Captain
19
SAF bow to the crowed, wow…
It’s good to be Red.
Chicha is our magical Mexican.
Cedars. Spot on my friend. It was madfe even better being there that day just rubbing the rentboys fans noses in it. Quiet as fuck the cockney cunts. There was just no way we were gonna lose that day. We were excellent and the lads ran themselves into the ground. The two one scoreline was a false score. It could have been four or five that day. I had to sit there the previous season when Drogba scored that fucking piss take of an off side goal and listen to the chavs singing“fack all. Your gonna win fack all“ and “why don’t you speak facking english“. Hated it. Rich coming from them the cockney cunts. No it was superb to rub their noses in it.
Evening all – Cedars, I was watching that link this afternoon. Led me to watch the 2 Champions league games and the Derby at Old Trafford. Felt like I needed a football fix!
King Eric
Biggest nose rub we gave them rent boys was a simple mathematical formula buddy….
Ladyboy – 50 Million
Little Pea, genius – 7 Million
CedarsDevil – Hello mate. Not to mention that Gene Wilder look a like cunt Luiz getting hauled off after being mugged by Hernandez. £75m worth of shit flushed down the toilet that day.
@Lloyd, King Eric, anti wee Cedars, soren…thanks mates, really appreciate the shout. @Lloyd, King Eric, anti wee Cedars, soren…thanks mates, really appreciate the shout.
@Cedars – 6 million, mate. 6. Incredible.
mikekelly12
The 4-3 derby win at OT along with the 3-1 win against the bitters in the Carling Cup semi always give my a nice fix off season! Speaking of recent history only
I also like this version of the goal vs. Chelsea
the euphoria of the people is wonderful I want to go to Old Trafford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMbqIQOk670&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Kings
Gene Wilder? hahaha classic, I always thought more like Side Show Bob but I loved your comparison…. The Little Pea sure did skin that ugly cunt that day….
Fred – That makes it more incredible my friend! Cheers
Oops! Missed out @Zibbie & @willie, thanks very much mates…
Ahh more smokescreen from SAF eh?
SirAlex’sSon
Deal with that parrot a.s.a.p
willie … I’m not sure if it’s a new comment, or if it means anything, but Beckham thinks Sneijder will join us, and they apparently know each other.
Soren – Haven’t seen that clip, sends goose bumps over me.
Cedars – Yes mate, stuck the 4-3 derby win on too. Never fails to make me smile!
Stateside – I’m 99.999999% certain Sneijder will sign for us.
All this talk of sweet victories of recent seasons’s going to force me to go out and get our last season dvds…i’ve been procastinating get them, but now i really have to see them again before the start of season.
Rooney & Vidic voted the 6th & 7th best players in Europe in the inaugural Uefa award,,
The top 3 consist of Ronaldo,Messi & Xavi with the winner to be announced on August 25.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spain/2011/07/25/2590293/barcelonas-xavi-lionel-messi-real-madrids-cristiano-ronaldo
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Manchester-United-Alex-Ferguson-claims-can-t-see-them-making-further-summer-signings-such-as-Wesley-Sneijder-and-looks-forward-facing-Manchester-City-in-Community-Shield-article776182.html
No new signings, before the city game next month.
Little pea joins the squad in America.
The boss looks forward, to facing the bitters in the community shield.
Yeah, fuck city and Liverpool!
@ Cedars, what more can i do to the bloody parrot, after snapping the neck it still echos…any ideas on how else to put it out’f its misery
mikekelly12 & StatesideAussie
Poor deluded souls, the pair of you!
MikeKelly … I’m still confident, too.
Willie … from the linked article: “”At this moment, I can’t see another addition. The type of player we might have been looking for is not available. I am happy with the players I have got at this moment in time.”
“At this moment…” he says it twice. The door is still open, then.
Cedars – What can I say? I have an inner belief , the force has spoken to me ; )
StatesideAussie – Slightly ajar mate. No matter, what Cedars says!
Yeah, have to agree with Cedars. Time to stop deluding yourselves about us signing Sneijder.
What more evidence do you need? http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour-2011/Tour-2011-News/2011/Jul/boss-rules-out-more-signings.aspx Summer spending over – official.
Of course were not going to sign anyone, Oh I believe that I also believe in the tooth fairy.
Fred
Welcome out of the dark side my friend!
Doesn’t have to be Sneijder.
mikekelly12 Yeah me too.
respect to the other, I do not think Sneijder firm
Seems De Gea’s really working hard to get his english sorted out quickly, and will be having Chico and Tony V as his closest allies…
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/07/25/2590117/david-de-gea-adjusting-well-to-life-at-manchester-united-despite-
More double agents in the mix.
SirAlex’sSon – thanks for the link and Happy Birthday!!
Buggers
Willie. Hello mate. Good link cheers. I agree with the others. I think there will be a signing as he has made it clear he wants a replacement for Paul. Its just finding one! Love the way he still calls them the noisy neighbours. Attention seeking cunts. Anyone would think there are only three midfielders out there. Wes, nasri and Modric. Truth is there could be players we haven’t heard of. No I don’t think we are done yet. Oh and I am fucking sick of seeing “playmaker“ and “Modric“ in the same sentence. Playmaker my fucking arse. Five goals and about three assists in two seasons does most certainly not make him a playmaker. He isn’t fit to lace Pauls boots. Fletchers record is fucking better.
I’m not disappointed one bit about SAF saying our transfers over, rather I’m excited at the prospect of seeing one of our own rise to stardom…+ you never know with Sir Alex, he might still pull one out of the bag.
Hang in there willie don’t you dare bulge to Cedars pressure, cause we still haven’t seem the last of this my friend.I’m not disappointed one bit about SAF saying our transfers over, rather I’m excited at the prospect of seeing one of our own rise to stardom…+ you never know with Sir Alex, he might still pull one out of the bag.
Hang in there willie don’t you dare bulge to Cedars pressure, cause we still haven’t seem the last of this my friend.
Thanks @Fred.
Mikekelly. Hello mate. Which link has soren provided of Hernandez against the rentboys? Can’t get it on my phone. Is it the one where the East Stand erupts after his goal? Cheers.
^^typo, *seen*
SirAlex’sSon – Don’t worry mate. I’ve got Cedars, where I’m want him! Lol. He’ll switch, to the dark side of the force, very soon.
I still think the Sneidjer deal will happen but atm its part of a chain. We want Sneidjer, Inter want Tevex and City want Auguero. Once one deal happens the rest will quickly fall into place . There is also no doubt a few other clubs in the chain as Athletico will have a replacement in mind and so on.
ATM everyone is just holding out to get the best deal, I suspect Citys deal for Aguero will be first and they will pay over the odds, they will then drop the fee a bit on Tevez to get him off the books which will see Inter swoop in and they will then accept our bid for Sneider to fund it.
It may drag on to the last week or even the last day (although we could do with a Midfielder before September really) but I’m sure once one person in the chain moves the deal will be done
@King Eric, loved that ‘noisy neighbours’ comment of his also, it gave me butterflies inside…that the Gaffer sees them in the same light as we do on here, classical comedy club that’ll forever be in our shadow.
Sir Alex’s quotes to the media about Sneijder/the mythical midfield signing:
“I have not been involved in this situation. There is no real interest for a lot of reasons. There is nothing I can tell you about it.”
“Forget it. We are looking at some things but I am not so sure Sneijder will be easy to get.”
”We started the season with the players we have and I am satisfied with that. We are not looking at the moment but we are looking at combinations of central midfielders now at the club.”
“At this moment, I can’t see another addition. The type of player we might have been looking for is not available. I am happy with the players I have got at this moment in time.”
Also pay attention to this little tidbit: “We lost five players in their 30s this summer,” said Ferguson. “That helped finance the three younger players – Ashley Young, Phil Jones and David de Gea – I have brought to the club.”
An admission of how he must penny-pinch and carefully balance the books these days. Wake up and smell the coffee, we simply can’t afford Sneijder.
@wakey…just painted a logically sensible picture.
Fred – That’s the anti Glazer in you, talking.
King Eric – Evening mate. Yeah, its a cam recording from the corner of the east stand lower. Awesome.
Wakey – I agree mate, he will come.
Yes yes we will sign wee Wes, not this summer though, perhaps the next one, at best the one after that………
Think you guys need a hug!
@wakey i just hope your logic is correct..
Cedars – I’ll save my hug for Sneijder when I run on the pitch after he bags the winner in the CL final!
Fred. Yeah I think he means for the wages really not the transfer fees. How is getting rid of Edwin Nev Paul Wes and John gonna finance fifty plus million? I know what you mean though mate.
I think Fred’s fishing. Trying to pull a trout?
mikekelly12
Joking aside, this transfer is never gonna happen and in my opinion not needed. Still hope you get to run onto the field when the Little Pea bags the winner though!
I’ll be honest, I don’t care who bags it as long as its bagged!!
I envy Eric King was in the game
. Well guys I’m going to lunch.
Afternoon reds city have a lemon on their hands with tevez,think the bitters will have to drop the price drastically to get rid.Mentioned it earlier rentboys are close to signing Pastore which will kill the Modric deal,that situation is pretty ugly can’t see how spurs can make him stay also de rossi contract talks have broken down.I know alot of lads don’t like either but Sir Alex has admiration for both of them.I think there is little or no chance Sir Alex is finished,i still think the nasri deal isn’t over yet,utd will sign another midfield player before the window closes
MikeKelly. Thanks mate. Yeah thought it would be that footage. Superb. The joy on the crowds faces is unbelieveable. A belting day at Old Trafford. Made better by the weather as well. It was red hot.
Fred … that link to the official site is hardly an official declaration that our spending is done for the summer. The very first line says, “Sir Alex has all but ruled out any more spending this summer at Manchester United.” Meaning, he has done everything EXCEPT rule it out. Meaning, he hasn’t ruled it out.
As for the “money quote”, I’m not convinced about that either. You say it’s evidence we can’t afford Sneijder or whoever. But when you walk into a street market or a bazaar and start haggling, do you brag to the sellers about how much money you’ve got? Do you tell them exactly how much you’ve got in your pocket? I don’t. I plead poverty. “Sorry mate, love to have it, but it’s out of reach. I’ve got a bit, see, because I sold a few things off, plus a few bob that I nicked from my kid’s piggybank, but what you’re asking, that’s out of the question.”
Of course, if there’s a line of buyers at the seller’s stand, you’ll probably miss out. But if the line is empty and the market is getting ready to close, a seller can change his mind pretty quickly…
King Eric – No worries pal. Glad there are people who have the patience to video these moments for us to re-live.
Great links to video footage of Chicharito, thanks!
Just the ticket now that I have top bandwidth.
I’ve seen nothing to suggest that we are not bringing in 2 more players this window.
We desire Wesley sire. Yes siree! Sire desires wee Wesley too.
There’ll be something extra showing at the Theatre dear to you this season.
Another day another win for me and Cedars.
You know, there have been times when Sir Alex said that the summer spending was over and it was indeed over. He’s not bluffing all the time. That being said, I hope he’s wrong. We need another midfielder, Snejder or not.
@Fred
Yeah I think you are onto something at 21:59. We still spent a lot more than what those 5 players’ departures brought to the club , but in terms of wages, we saved around 200k per week. Around 11 million per season.
King Eric – has long has we sign a gd midfielder I will be happy, unless cleverly shows he can play in the engine room its gonna be tough, if not our other area’s of the team are going to once again have to compensate the lack of depth and dominance in the engine room
Another double agent!
The war begins
Wait
Earth 2011
The ROM have begun the war to end all wars as half the followers have turned into Sneijder haters and the other half hope against all hope that Sneijder will come and grace OT
On the one side their is Optimus Cedars and Optimus Costas the leaders of the resistance against the signing of Sneijder and on the other side their are the valiant believers Optimus MG and Optimus willierednut fighting against the dark arts fighting for Sneijder to arrive.
Pick your sides the war has begun.
19 going on 20
Gibbo held on to like a booty call until the hot chick say yes to the dance.
I’m ready MG!
I’m for Snidjerman and all his spidjy powers.
And a sleeper for out of the hat pull’s SAF soon to be Lord Alex. (sound of darth’s mask when you say LORD ALEX)
willierednut
(Before Costas comes in and says it)
“Today, in the name of freedom, we take the battle to them.”
Let’s roll.
Logically makes no sense to me why anyone wouldn’t want WS one of the best players in the world
SAF beets up Darth Vader…….. News in the Mirror…
The Optimus ‘C’s will reign supreme.
It’s been mentiioned that we haven’t signed a new midfielder in 4 years. The funny thing is that we went 8 years without signing a new midfielder until Veron arrived. Of course we had Keane, Scholes and Butt in their prime at the time. And we weren’t averaging an injury crisis per season.
I’m directly under the enemy’s scrotum.
Optimus C’s
“Fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing.”
“My name is Optimus MG. We are autonomous robotic organisms from the planet ROMtron.”
What I’m about to show you is top secret. Don’t tell my mother.
We didn’t really need anyone then Costas. Keane and Scholes, were world class midfielders. Looking back now, Veron was a gamble too far. Cracking player, but just not the right time for him. I’ve heard other United fans say, Fergie is developing a blind spot on our midfield, like Wenger’s blind spot for keepers. I don’t concur with that thought. The difference there is, United have still been successful. Arsenal have not won a trophy in 6 years ffs. I’m not sure why, he hasn’t bought a CM in 4 years. Maybe he has faith in the young lads coming through. He has referenced them a few times lately.
Sell Veron buy Djemba Djemba and Kleberson World cup winner TM
Oh wait we did that once upon a time.
The Jenkins goal is on Jeers so is Marios melt down, Jeers on Sports Nation ESPN dogging the Gomers and Chity hahahahahahahaha
I can play CM, I have a golf cart.
Tony Montana: You wanna fuck with me? Okay. You wanna play rough? Okay. Say hello to my little friend!
[Tony shoots]
We signing Sneijder in this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women. When you got the woman you get Sneijder.
Great post Willie. Spot on. Fergie has indeed referenced them a lot of late. Said Pogba was very close to going to States but just missed out. Only yesterday he said in terms of some of the youth players we “are in a great situation“. The ones he often mentions are Tunnicliffe, Morrison, Pogba and the Keane brothers.
Saw this on the main site, “Today in New Jersey”
10:40 It seems there is still a big debate going on between the players about who actually won the golf yesterday. We were told Gary Neville claimed victory, but Wayne Rooney told us it was him and Jonny Evans who triumphed and we’ve also heard that Michael Carrick and partner, masseur Rod Thornley, were crowned champions. We’ll try and uncover the truth! (GT)
Then another entry about Max Londsdale:
11:12 Sky Sports’ Secret Agent column has a heart-warming tale involving United. After being released by Macclesfield Town, Max Lonsdale put together a DVD of his abilities and allegedly hand-delivered it to Sir Alex Ferguson’s house. The 18-year-old was then offered a trial and that, dear readers, is reportedly how he came to make a substitute appearance in last week’s Reserves friendly at Fleetwood and started yesterday’s win at Spartans
You got a look in your eyes, like you ain’t been fucked in years!!!!
This site has gone Pea-nuts!
Pea you do owe Master SAF forever now…look fwd to seeing him play I think Pea/Rooney or Pea/Wellbeck will be our best combination for him.
Have to laugh – Torres the 50mn muppet now I am back – fell over in Malaysia and failed to score AGAIN!
My goal predictions:
Rooney – 25-30
Pea – 20-25
Nani – 10-15
Valencia – 10-15
Park – 7-10
Owen – 5-10
Wellbeck – 2-5
Macaeda – 2-5
Diouf – 2-5
Young – 205
Barbatov – 2-5 (year before last average, and assuming only starts 20% games)
Giggs – 1-3
Anderson – 1-3
Obertan – 1-3
Vidic – 1-3
Evra – 1
Full circle for Hernandez “My first game with Manchester United was with the MLS All-Stars”
@MG : Did think u were a damm robot.
@Zibbie : First, u seemed high on something before u dissapeared , the game against chicago fire!
hope u didnt do anthing u might regret later, like mooning some shitty fans or something!
Secondly, what ru doing unders whos scrotum, yuck ! shud it not be under a pussycat?
Thirdly, NSA secret files ?
Unjani @smartalex?
DM
Yeah but I have a real heart that Hayley loves
Goodnight Manchester United
Goodnight DM my good friend from Malaysia truly Asia
“Everybody you meet over here asks the same question, ‘When does Chicharito arrive?’” said Paddy Crerand, the 1968 European Cup winner “It’s incredible. People keep saying he is the most popular player in America, bigger than Beckham, Henry, Rooney – all of them.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8661315/Javier-Hernandez-takes-centre-stage-in-New-York-as-Manchester-United-prepare-to-play-the-MLS-All-Stars.html
Very good Dave Malaysia! How are you mate!
United is Pea-nuts! Haha – Torres 50mn – this season I am back -man fellover in Malaysia and failed to score AGAIN. And Pea you owe SAF forever….!
My EPL goal predictions:
Rooney – 25-30
Pea -20-25
Nani – 10-15
Park -5-10
Valencia – 5-10
Owen – 5-10
Young – 3-5
Macaeda – 3-5
Wellbeck – 3-5
Anderson – 3-4
Vidic – 2-3
Smalling – 2-3
Berbatov – 2-3 (based on yr before last rate and fact he will only play 20% games unless injury)
Giggs – 1-3
Obertan – 1-2
Diouf – 1-2
Rafael – 1-2
Fabio – 1-2
Carrick – 1-2
Fletcher – 1-2
Ferdinand -1
Evra – 1
“It has to do with the romance of the club, and the events that happened in 1958 which created that romance,’’ said manager Sir Alex Ferguson. “To recover from the Munich Air disaster and win the European Cup in 1968 with mainly homegrown players was an incredible feat; it created what we see at Manchester United today. The Munich Air Disaster created this appeal, but most importantly it was how the club recovered from that. It showed the determination of the manager at the time (Matt Busby); and he without question laid the foundations for what we see Manchester United is today. They always played the right way they always tried to win. Losing was not on the agenda of Manchester United and never will be.’’
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/sir_alex_ferguson_losing_was_not_yiE5ARjKoCX20jWPyei4nM
@smartalex: Ngikhona. Me go , have breakfast, then go work,6.50 a.m here. Hopefully when me come back, Fergie say ,well we found him in Manchester so we signed him.(Sneijder or nasri).
Sala Kahle.
@MG : Hayley is mine,she now cooking breakfast for me. Go home Optimus Prime mg.
Wait
I can’t let DM get away with the last comment
How can Hayley be cooking breakfast for you when she’s in bed with me?
I love this job
Goodnight United – for sure this time!
No more signings?
We’re screwed.
Everytime he speaks, I’m so thankful. It totally reminds me why Sir Alex is the best in the planet.
Chicharito should buddy up with De Gea and ease him into the Man Utd family. Keep Anderson the party animal out of the way.
A classy lad our Lil Pea. It’s a big surprise no clubs came in with a bid for him this summer. I was hoping to hear Fergie say :”Fuck off and lay off our Lil Pea, you freaking virus or you shitty assholes!!”
Hope he plays in the MLS All-Stars game even if it’s for a few mins. Sure to drive the crowd wild & orgasmic.
I love how Fergie has come out with this story about Tevez retiring RIGHT when City are trying to sell him. It’s obvious he’s trying to put a spanner in the works and mess things up for them just for the hell of it. Gotta love it!
Don’t get the whole “De Gea can’t speak a lick of English” bit personally. The kid’s 20. @ 20 I spoke English, broken French and could order midnight tacos in spanish because i spoke perfect Pothead. I’ll give him a pass. I don’t remember VDS being able to articulate himself in full sentences at the near post setting up a wall at Anfield anyway, maybe I’m wrong. It’s a a professional sport and one that we love because so many cultures cross borders. The direction of the play is inherfently dependant on the players on the pitch, not their f’in native tongue. I’d rather David master the subtle tendancies of defenders the likes of Rio, Vidic, Smalling and Evans before I get on his back about homonyms.
2 cents
@Dave Malaysia I was drunk and high before the Fire game, chatting driving down the road gave me a thrill for some reason. Happy as hell that day. Fun was had by all. I tend to be a happy drunk Dave. And we had some sick ass chronic.
Dave the scrotum line is from Transformers II. On the pyramid.
Fergie’s fledglings ran out comfortable 4-0 winners over Venezuelan outfit Zamora FC in Ballymena in the Milk Cup.
James Wilson, Gyliano Van Velzen, Jack Barmby and Kenji Gorre were all on target for United, who face County Tyrone tonight.
United manager Paul McGuinness said: “I think we controlled the game, and we could have had one or two more goals if we had the right pass”
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/milk-cup/fergies-manchester-united-fledglings-looking-good-16027973.html
ididnotzeeit … it’s obviously an issue, because it has been mentioned several times now by those at the club. No one’s saying he needs a masters in Shakespearean Literature in order to play goalie for United. But communication is acknowledged as an essential part of the modern game. Especially for goalies, who often see things from a different angle to defenders and can alert them. More importantly, don’t you think it would be a good idea if de Gea and the coaches (especially Steele) can communicate during training on some level more advanced than grunts and caveman paintings?
Teams these days are meticulously prepared and briefed for every match. Based on scouting information, they prepare detailed reports, with diagrams, written breakdowns of the other team’s strategies, analysis of the other players’ strengths, weaknesses and known responses to certain situations, the whole works (there were some samples floating around the web recently). Most of this is for the benefit of the coaches, of course, but they still have to communicate the key points to the players.
I’m sure he’ll learn and it won’t be a big deal.
Anyway, I was pretty impressed by what I’ve seen of Lindegaard, so far.
Fergie already thinking about silencing the Noisy Neighbours!
http://allaboutunited.com/news/sir_alex_ferguson_time_to_shut_the_noisy_neighbors_up/2011-07-26-20
NOOOOO!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/25/emmanuel-eboue-arsenal-galatasaray
Don’t sell my Eboue.
I think we have great attack,defence also…young, mature, experience etc. Wings are also great, but im not sure about middle of middle. We need someone creative…but it seems that no one wants to come to Manchester United. But on the other side why we would pray someone to come? We can still be strong, but we will see where we will be on the end of the season.
willierednut – if it is a soft spot for the engine room, it has cost united dearly in the CL against barca, and cost us a league title in 2010
Fergie has finally confirmed that our spending is done. And so we have to endure another season without the elusive midfielder. Hopefully the full barcelona team play in washington that will be the determining factor. There is hope though. Phil Jones might play in DM and carrick can finally move up. and our strike force and our defence are absolute world class. We also have a Good commanding goalkeeper who is very young. Good things to look forward to next season.
Not me Eboue
Hey reds.. G/afternoon
On the new addition in the engine room, Sir Alex has said we have not find what we’re looking for..” you are the boss Sir Alex.. we gladly respect your judgement.
On to the next one.. ONE utd!!
Hey reds.. G/afternoon
On the new addition in the engine room, Sir Alex has said we have not find what we’re looking for..” you are the boss Sir Alex.. we gladly respect your judgement.
On to the next one.. ONE utd!!
Someone will come in before we kick off on the 14th August, I can sense it. For some reason the Bayern manager felt fit to come out today and say that Scweinsteiger is not for sale. Seems someone must have been sniffing around him??
Its a funny one the midfield. Nobody seems to know WHAT kind of player we want. Good job Fergie seems to. Some want creativity. We creative enough. Christ Fletch got more assits than Modric last year and he was well below par and missed the last 3 months. We create an absolute shit load of chances. I personally dont think creating is a problem.
Which moves me on to a ball winner. Really? How many hard ball winners do Barca have? They don’t. I think a box to boxer would suffice if we cannot get in Sneijder.
How to solve the problem of the midfield? If indeed there is a problem. A fully fit, bulked up Fletcher would make a world of difference. I honestly think some forget how good he is. The season before last he was absolutely outstanding and bossed every big game. I remember Alan YSB Hansen doing a montage of him after the city game and the lad was superb. Good to hear that he is working well at Carrington and working on bulking up. Fergie said he should be ready to join up when the rest of the lads get back on Monday or whenever it is.
Mike – stop clutching on straws mate, it won’t happen give it up, bayern will never sell one of there best player and who is a german international.
deluded cunt: http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/s/1453631_sorry-becks-but-city-are-on-the-march
It really annoys me for some reason when folk call the “Glazers” the “Glaziers”. Not difficult to comprehend. Much like when people refer to Charlie Adam as “Adams”. Just saying.
FITB- I think poor refereeing cost us the title in 2010 more than anything.
fitb – Hello mate. Nonsense. The engine room didnt cost us the title in 2010 mate, the fucking refs and defensive problems did.
tehboogeyman – Ha ha. You beat me to it!! How are you my young friend? Right back to work now for half hour.
Love ‘Chicharito’ was always excited bout him post world cup. I actually thought Mexico should have used him more.
@Dave Hamba kahle!
Samuel – I realise that, I was just saying somebody must have been enquiring for him to come out and make that comment. I’m not clutching at straws mate as I am not one of the voices that thinks that we are doomed if we don’t sign a midfielder, on the contrary, I think we have the personnel to give us another successful season. However, with everything I have heard this summer I feel that there will be another signing. So really, nothing to give up, its just an opinion.
King Eric – I tend to call them The Glaciers very often
Shitty are small time, they’re chelsea 5 years ago minus the leaders & genuine threat.
Lol it cracks me up how people expect a newly signed young player from blackburn to come in and be the new midfield engine, he played there occasionally when blackburn had no option, his main position is centre half and its important he sticks to that position more often than not so he can improve his game.
like i’ve said, if anderson can actually be consistent and improve then that elusive box to box player is already at the club, he needs improve his goal scoring as wel.
We have outstanding young midfield players at the club, chuck them into the carling cup and watch how they cope, pogba still needs to bulk up but fabregas was hardly big when he broke into the arsenal team so why not pogba or morrison? why not. if you’re good enough you’re old enough.Lol it cracks me up how people expect a newly signed young player from blackburn to come in and be the new midfield engine, he played there occasionally when blackburn had no option, his main position is centre half and its important he sticks to that position more often than not so he can improve his game.
like i’ve said, if anderson can actually be consistent and improve then that elusive box to box player is already at the club, he needs improve his goal scoring as wel.
We have outstanding young midfield players at the club, chuck them into the carling cup and watch how they cope, pogba still needs to bulk up but fabregas was hardly big when he broke into the arsenal team so why not pogba or morrison? why not. if you’re good enough you’re old enough.
Pogba ain’t ready yet. And Jones will eventually play in midfield. I would bet big money on that.
I think what we lack in midfield is a player who can keep possession well – Scholes did that but none of Carrick, Fletcher, Ando do that and Giggs is not a natural mid.
I think there is an issue with how easily our midfield lose possession, also Carrick never dribbles and tends to panick when he gets the ball, the lad can pass, but until he warms up by the last few games he tends to pass sideways, and he and Fletcher and Ando on their day are great at tackling and intercepting, but as midfielders good at possession and passing between themselves to do so – forget it, that is not what they do well. We need a player who will run with the ball all the way from midfield and score if no one stops him – I hate to say it but a Gerrard if not an Inesta.
@ willierednut
Are you sure Jones has the passing range to be a holding midfielder? I don’t think he is as good as Carrick or Ando in that position, I can’t see him replacing either. He would need a lot of work to be able to initiate our attacks. Hargreaves was an exceptional players in terms of defence, passing, free kicks, set plays – Jones I cannot see as close to that yet.
Mike – it’s probably rumours that they’re fending away, you’re right i don’t think we’re doomed if we don’t sign a midfield player but our numbers there is pretty small, lack of depth there may cost us or may not, someone like anderson might eventually step up or fergie will promote from within, he has dropped hints about the young players at the club so we’ll see.
People think signing sneijder is the answer to breaking down barcelona but the spanish side have a team that are pretty much telepathic and technically at a higher level, they’ve played with each other for so long that they gel so easily. maybe its time we start bringing players through with such understanding, that is the key., you’re right i don’t think we’re doomed if we don’t sign a midfield player but our numbers there is pretty small, lack of depth there may cost us or may not, someone like anderson might eventually step up or fergie will promote from within, he has dropped hints about the young players at the club so we’ll see.
People think signing sneijder is the answer to breaking down barcelona but the spanish side have a team that are pretty much telepathic and technically at a higher level, they’ve played with each other for so long that they gel so easily. maybe its time we start bringing players through with such understanding, that is the key.
That’s why I said, eventually. He’ll improve on other aspects of his game.
King Eric- I’m good mate. I’ve had nothing to do in the last 2 months, and won’t have anything till September, so I’m really missing United. And you?
On topic- I love Chicharito.
Our main problem in midfield is internal, The ability is there but not the performances.
Carrick – is awesome on his day, the best Defensive mid in the league, but low confidence in passing foward and being bullied is his main problem.
Fletch – The Boss of our Midfield but last season was a shadow then illness took him.
Anderson – Energetic, has vision, counter attacks, battles, wins balls but too many wayward passes and sometimes appears tired and lazy. Long balls of his are 3/5 on target, he needs to step up.
Park – Only flaw could be that he doesn’t have a large variety of passes compared to the others IMO. But appart from that Flawless player.
Giggs- Legend, not a young player though so we can’t rely on him week in week out. We missed him alot in our defeat to Arsenal.
Gibson – was great in the last month of the season, goals, passes, assists was perfect, he has the work rate and potential to win fans over but he needs to perform excellently in his limited his appearances, so he gives Fergie a selection problems.
Considering we’ve won the league with a underperforming Centre midfield, maybe 1 signing would push us to the next level or maybe Fletch and Cleverley will be like new signings for us when they play.
( I reckon fletch will make his comeback in october, 2 months to bulk up and gains fitness and hit regular form)
Tell me one outstanding midfield quality that jones has? why do you suddenly think he’ll be this midfield saviour? i’ve watched the guy enough times, he has excelled at centre half but in midfield he has being solid and done a job but we all know doing a ‘job’ isn’t enough, lets not turn a player into a jack of all trade.
If we don’t have any options then sure jones can play there but not regularly, he is not a midfield specialist, you need intelligence more than brute force to play there, personally i’d like him to stick to centre half and break the rio-vida patnership if he can.
How do you know pogba aint ready? if the manager thinks he is then chuck him in, i think he has all the attributes that united are looking for, one thing missing is experience and the physic and as time goes he’ll gather that, young players need to get exposed but gradually of course, i’ll repeat though i don’t think pogba will suddenly be the saviour but soon he and morrison will break in.Tell me one outstanding midfield quality that jones has? why do you suddenly think he’ll be this midfield saviour? i’ve watched the guy enough times, he has excelled at centre half but in midfield he has being solid and done a job but we all know doing a ‘job’ isn’t enough, lets not turn a player into a jack of all trade.
If we don’t have any options then sure jones can play there but not regularly, he is not a midfield specialist, you need intelligence more than brute force to play there, personally i’d like him to stick to centre half and break the rio-vida patnership if he can.
How do you know pogba aint ready? if the manager thinks he is then chuck him in, i think he has all the attributes that united are looking for, one thing missing is experience and the physic and as time goes he’ll gather that, young players need to get exposed but gradually of course, i’ll repeat though i don’t think pogba will suddenly be the saviour but soon he and morrison will break in.
Samuel – I think you’re right that a lot depends on whether Anderson can produce a more consistent and injury free season. He started looking a lot more like what we bought him for towards the back end of the season, so lets hope a good pre season helps. We are light on numbers should we suffer injuries and fixture congestion. Pogba and Morrison are undoubted talents as they’ve shown already this season, but to slot into a first team to replace injuries in the Prem is a little too much to ask right now and a little too early for them.
morning reds,no worries according to The Fly WS is a done deal and it’ll be announced tomorrow lets hope he’s right.
My main worry in the midfield is 1.Fletch has caught this virus twice in less than a year,its seems unusual to me so will it be recurring and are we ever going to see the Fletch of a couple of years ago.2 can Anderson be trusted to carry the midfield week in week out,his main problem so far has been consistency,by all accounts he’s laid back and doesn’t worry about anything,pot smoker or flake comes to mind.
If you take these two out because of question marks then utd have a big problem,now sir alex can take a gamble and hope Fletch is fully recovered and finally Anderson has deveolped the mental maturity to deliver every week,seems like a big risk.i know alot talk about young lads coming through but its not the utd way to throw a lad in the deep end and expect him to deliver from day 1.
Me i think its a automatic Sir Alex will sign someone.
Jones is just not a midfield player, he’ll do a job but if its him we’re relying on this season in midfield then we’re fucked, i’m sure sir alex will work something out though.
wayne- When The Fly say that about Sneijder?
Pogba hasn’t played a fucking game yet and didn’t go on the tour!
That’s how I know, ok?
If he was that far ahead, surely the boss would of brought him to America?
Neither Morrison, or Pogba are ready for first team action, on regular basis yet.
Furthermore, who’s talking about saviours? That’s nonsense, you’re spouting, not me.
As for Jones, I think in time, he’ll end up playing in midfield.
Not right away, but in time.
willierednut- Hello mate. Talking sense as usual, I see.
Willierednut – I agree, as I posted earlier, Pogba and Morrison have undoubted quality, but far from ready to plug gaps in our first team should we start to struggle in that department and could have an adverse affect on their development.
As regards Jones, I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen him play in midfield although people I have spoken with have said he did a good job for Blackburn whaen asked to. God I miss Hargreaves!!
mike – the jury is still out on anderson, sometimes question his hunger and desire to improve, he and nani joined at the same time but the latter has improved far more than him.
He has the attributes to be a great midfield box to box player but does he have the desire? i still have doubts, i hope he can eventually step up though, he is the only central midfield player at the club with pace,power and drive combined, his short passing is good but long one’s need tweaking, his runs and movement into the box aren’t good enough and needs to improve, his shooting technique especially the long range one’s are awful, i mean he spends hours in training everyday and yet he can’t shoot properly.
I agree that pogba and morrison aren’t the answer yet but if they leep putting in great performances and have good attitudes (morrison thats to you) then Dont be shocked if fergie gives them a chance.mike – the jury is still out on anderson, sometimes question his hunger and desire to improve, he and nani joined at the same time but the latter has improved far more than him.
He has the attributes to be a great midfield box to box player but does he have the desire? i still have doubts, i hope he can eventually step up though, he is the only central midfield player at the club with pace,power and drive combined, his short passing is good but long one’s need tweaking, his runs and movement into the box aren’t good enough and needs to improve, his shooting technique especially the long range one’s are awful, i mean he spends hours in training everyday and yet he can’t shoot properly.
I agree that pogba and morrison aren’t the answer yet but if they leep putting in great performances and have good attitudes (morrison thats to you) then Dont be shocked if fergie gives them a chance.
@theboogeyman hi mate one of sundays threads,he’s mentioned it on and off since then aswell
But I still haven’t found what I’m looking for,hmm he could have wrote the lyrics for U2.
Like i’ve repeated, i accept morrison or pogba arent experienced enough yet to play regularly but they’re close and personally i’d rather they get thrown in than use a defender at central midfield.
you can’t base nothing on this tour, many that went will hardly play this season bet on that.
You still ain’t named jones midfield attributes apart from having the drive to bring out the ball, what are his other qualities?.
Wayne- thanks mate. How’re you doing?
Good day to all shades of Red. I saw the SAF interview, he said no new players before the CS, he never had the same feeling like last year when he said we are done spending…….
off topic, I love pussy. I mean the way if smells, the way it looks. How it swells when excited. How they purr when happy. Any way TMI just got some morning fun. Have a great pussy filled day.
The club will work on his game.
What qualities do you need, as a stopper?
Good tackler. Decent passing range. Read the game and get about the pitch.
He’s not the finished the article, but he’ll improve.
He won’t get much game time in there this season, I don’t think.
That’s why, I’m hoping for someone else, to be brought in.
Last thought, pussy is so good even pussy likes pussy.
Oldham have signed Manchester United academy goalkeeper Sam Johnstone on loan after Dale Connor was injured.
http://www.oldham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=248453
LOL king eric I think SHITTY are clearly small time like a certain Chelsea a few years back. Plus for city to even start engineering the thought of being bigger than United , It means United has to be a conference club with no money and no fans and errr that’s never going to happen. Despite all the arab money and influence we still remain the most valuable sports franchise on the planet and some stupid club down the road wants to challenge us? you have to get thru madrid, barcelona and co. before you get to us LMAO. they think offering players ridiculous amounts of money means that they love the club and want to play for them? LOL. there’s nothing stopping us from offering players massive wages the difference is we far smarter than the arab fools at city.
shitty= everything wrong with football.
@theboogeyman good thanks mate anxious to get the season going,off season just seems to drag.would like to see Sir Alex add to the midfield even if its just for cover,get a run of injuries we’d be in trouble
A Manchester United rep said, “The full squad wasn’t there and the group included team staff. Everybody was dancing on tables at Lavo, not just Giggs.
“That was the theme, the whole restaurant was dancing. None of the players invited girls onto the bus. Two girls got on the bus at Lavo, they were friends of the backroom staff, and one was with her husband. At the end of the night, the team got on the bus and went back to their hotel with no girls.”
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/soccerblog/manchester_united_squad_gets_belly_gKX7k0NVIvCoZ07dRvyCiN
hardly any top team’s need stoppers, united hardly ever play with one however a quality box to box player is required, anderson has potential but how long will we keep waiting for him to realise it?, i’m sure S.A.F will come up with a solution though (we have to hope he does or we’re stuffed).
Shield/stopper, don’t make a difference. I agree, we’ve rarely played with one. Maybe we should though. Our defense last season, was far too easy, to get at. Of course, the manager will come up with something. He’s a genius, after all.
I understand that, our midfield got over ran at times, maybe united need more energy in there, fletch getting ill and not recovering his previous form hasn’t helped, carrick was practically doing a two man job in there, anderson form changes more than a woman changes her bra, the mercurial genius scholes career was winding down, giggs excelled there but at 37, we shouldn’t have been relying on him too much.
We do need major depth in the engine room, is cleverly able to step up into the highest level? yes we shall all wait and see.
I understand that, our midfield got over ran at times, maybe united need more energy in there, fletch getting ill and not recovering his previous form hasn’t helped, carrick was practically doing a two man job in there, anderson form changes more than a woman changes her bra, the mercurial genius scholes career was winding down, giggs excelled there but at 37, we shouldn’t have been relying on him too much.
We do need major depth in the engine room, is cleverly able to step up into the highest level? yes we shall all wait and see.
I can sense from reading his posts that my mate Willie is a tad annoyed! I wonder why?
Btw i think welbeck will step up this season, his all round game seems to have improved since joining sunderland on Loan, maybe he’ll play as a winger or attacking midfield? maybe and he can play centre forward in cup games but i’ve definitely seen some improvements.
@Samuel
You are right about Welbeck.
He was really impressive against Chicago.
His vision, and passing etc has really improved. There were some sublime touches from him. And his pass for Berbatovs chance was exquisite.
Along with his workrate he could be excellent cover for Rooney.
Some people say we “need” to buy an A-list midfielder this summer. Some say we don’t “need” to. I don’t think it’s a question of “need”, though.
For me, what we need or don’t need is determined by our ability to continue dominating the PL. Specifically, to win the PL again this year. But no one can say for sure that if we don’t buy an A-list midfielder, we can kiss Number 20 goodbye this year. And no one can say for sure that if we do buy such a player, we will definitely win the PL. Those questions are impossible to answer in advance of the season, so “need” doesn’t come into it.
A better question to ask is, would buying Player X improve our squad? And a player of the caliber of Sneijder, De Rossi or Bastian The Beast would strengthen our squad. Even though those are all very different types of midfielders, I am sure that any one of them would seriously improve our squad. We would have a better chance of success with any one of those guys. Is there anyone who thinks that adding one of those players would actually make us worse?
I am less sure about Nasri and Modric, though.
I won’t be slashing my wrists and crying doom, gloom and the end of the world if we don’t get someone like that. And if we do get someone, I won’t be guzzling the champers to celebrate Number 20 right away — got to win the bloody thing first. But I will feel more confident and optimistic about our ability to do that, for sure.
bottomline if utd don’t sign anyone else gibbo is staying,so all the gibbo haters get used to it
@Stateside – very good post, logical and thought through as always. Just to point out that it’s also about the CL. To me if an A-lister is signed in MF, I would take that as a major declaration of intent w.r.t CL. And before anybody refers to The Barca Protocol, let me clarify that to me it’s not about Barca, it’s about the CL. I know Fergie has said that it’s difficult to compete on both fronts, but if he buys a player like WS, I can imagine him giving it a bit of a harder push. 4-3-3 in Munich 2012 with a midfield of Carrick, Fletcher and Sneijder, anybody? Mouthwatering? Yeah – that’s what I thought too…
I’ve known the Sneijder fantasy was dead ever since Stankovic bet a reporter a pizza and a beer that Big Wes would stay at Inter. It doesn’t get much more decisive than that.
I don’t really know of any other “A-list” midfielders that could be available, so I think you should give up on this idea. Best we can hope for now is a bolt from the blue like Chicharito. I don’t see that happening though, because if such a player had been on our radar, we would have him by now.
Get well soon, Fletch.
Fred –
We do mate. He goes by the Name of Darron Gibson, You heard it here first. Gibson this season will win over all the fans. ALL OF THEM. It will be a fairy tale story of Nearly on the cusp of leaving to Manchester United Regular.
Think about it, Gibson has a decent shot, Decent pace, 24 years old, can pass like Iniesta, moves like Iniesta, is a determined fella (bayern munich performance and last month of last season).
Fletcher at this very same age, won over his critics and so will Gibbo if he stays, it will be a wake up call for him.
C’mon Gibbo!
Jeet … cheers! An improved squad would help us in the CL too, no doubt. I focused on the PL as the priority, because I think it is. The reason I play down the CL a bit is that it’s a knockout cup competition and therefore will always be more of a lottery than a season-long league.
samuel – You are really are an argumentative so and so. I suggest you get the views of Suhayl whose family know staff at Blackburns academy and Jones himself,. Big Sam said to Fergie a while back that he will become a dominating central midfielder. Too short to be a centre half.
@Fred, I’ve got no problems whatsoever if he could do that. Let’s hope he does a Solskjaer, who turned down a move to Spurs and then everything as they say, became history.
Ah, that should’ve been a response to Clint, sorry!
Samuel – His midfield attributes? Strong, tough in the tackle, can pass the ball well, pacy and reads the game. Great engine. Is that enough attributes for you?
Fred … by definition, the list of elite players is pretty short, and it’s not often that any of them are just “available”. It happens sometimes, but not often. Usually, they have to be prised out of the club they’re at.
If we don’t get anyone like that, we will have to rely on our existing experienced players (injuries, form, etc) and our youngsters. At least it will mean our youngsters getting more opportunity. But I think it’s realistic to expect their involvement will gradually increase over time and they won’t suddenly burst onto the scene and win everything this year. Some of them may do better than expected. Some may struggle. But in general, I think we have to look on their introduction as a process, not an event. There’ll be milestones along the way. Successes and setbacks too. I see them as the hope for our future, not as the solution for today.
Cedars – Not annoyed mate. That’s called passion.
@YorYor – it was Papii who said that, not me! I still think there’s a chance Gibbo could go to Inter in a straight swap for Sneijder. Maybe even Sneijder plus cash. You know what Darron’s like though, he might be holding out for Barca or Madrid.
Jones wouldn’t be the first player to switch positions. Evra started as a winger. So did Giggs, as i recall — wouldn’t have imagined him running the central midfield 10 years ago, lol. And Jones is still only 19. He’s got plenty of time to learn, and adapt. At his age, the key things are his general make-up (physical athletic ability and his mental powers: desire to win, determination to overcome obstacles, ability to concentrate, discipline, etc), and his specific abilities for a particular role, which King Eric listed. If he’s got all that, and SAF is of a mind to try it, then give him a go.
Stateside – yeah, no top players are just “available”. What club actually wants to sell their best players? No club does, of course. That’s why it’s disheartening to me to hear Sir Alex talk that way. His message seems to be “there are players we want, but we can’t get them.” Well why the hell not? I thought we were supposed to be the biggest football club in the world. We should be able to sign any player we want. Can you imagine if Real Madrid had given up on Ronaldo so easily? He’d still be playing for us!
If you want top players, you have to pay top dollar. This is why I think it comes down to us not having the money for him.
Fred — it may be money, but who really knows? Even if it is a question of money, I don’t think we should stump up whatever crazy sums people ask us for, even if we could. There has to be some sense to it. Otherwise, you may as well bend over and take it up the ass. For what it’s worth, I always thought 80 million for CR7 was silly, stupid money.
Yeah, you have to pay top dollar for top players. But you also have to find a club that is willing to sell, and a player who wants to move here — and let’s be real, not all of them do.
There could be a million reasons why the Sneijder deal hasn’t been done. If it is money, it could be transfer fees, wages, bonuses or even hoe the payments are structured. We don’t know. I would hope we are not holding out over 1 or 2 million in fees, but then again, what if Inter are asking 50 or 60 million, or Sneijder wants 250k a week net of taxes? Should we just write the check? If we don’t, does that mean we are cheapskates, or bordering on bankruptcy?
And what if it’s not money. What if Sneijder wants football guarantees that SAF won’t give — like a minimum of 40 appearances a year, or the club captaincy? I mean, I am making this stuff up — but the point is, it could be anything. Hell, even Sir Alex has told the story of the player whose agent said the deal could only be done if United bought the player a block of flats, ffs. so who knows that’s on the table and what the sticking point is?
oops, I meant “so who knows **what’s** on the table and what the sticking point is?”
Gibbo ! Gibbo ! Gibbo !….
I’d rather have Gibson reach a good level of consistancy for us & improve & be part of a trophy winning side than see guys like Sneijder,modric, naseri, schweini come here put in a few good years and fuck off to another club to retire.
So who’s gonna be next seasons Charlie Adam/ Van der Vaart / Chico Chico Hernandez?
My Moneys on Scott Sinclair of Swansea, Yohan Cabaye & possibly Aaron Ramsey.
( I rate Cabaye very highly, I reckon he’ll be at a top 6 club after Newcastle go back down or cash in on him).
A player demanded a block of flats to sign for United? I’ve never heard this.
Probably Ozil. No wonder we wouldn’t fork out the poxy £12m for him.
Fred – It wasn’t that. He’s a scary looking cunt. Bugged out mantis.
Block of flats? Probably Tevez. He wanted the whole la famila to move over to Manchester.
Fred/Willie … yeah, I read that in an interview with Sir Alex a while back. I’ll try to find a link. Crazy, huh?
Fred/Willie … didn’t take long — here you go:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/02/sir-alex-ferguson-agents
I also like the one about the striker who wanted to be paid extra every time he scored a goal.
willie … lol, i missed the Tevez comment. you think his family would fit into a block of flats? Not all of them, surely? What would they call it — Troll Towers?
Thanks Stateside – I wonder if the prolific striker whose agent wanted extra money for every goal he scored was actually Andy Cole. As the article says, his agent was Paul Stretford. Could have been anyone really though (David Hirst, Alan Shearer, Teddy Sheringham, Dwight Yorke, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Diego Forlan, etc.) so it’s pointless guessing.
This Jerome Anderson guy who Sir Alex mentions seems very shady too. He was at the center of the Jon Obi Mikel farce. I just read up on him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Anderson_%28football_agent%29 Crazy amount of influence he has had. Was involved in the takeover of City by Dr. Toxin the mad dictator and the takeover of Blackburn by these loony chicken farmers. That Keith Harris geezer who was the public mouthpiece of the “Red Knights” was involved in the former too.
Makes me worry about the state of the game. PARASITES!
Buy a player a block of flats? I’ll bet that was flatly blocked.
Perhaps we could buy Count Berbatov a flock of bats.
StatesideAussie – Troll towers? Lol.