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brilliant.
Fucking brilliant. Think i might get one of those.
FFS I find this t shirt incredibly CRASS, TASTELESS, and whats more i suspect that anyone wearing it during the WC will be liable to have their fckin heads punched in. GET A FCKIN LIFE whoever is promoting this shit. just out of interest, Which country are they from by the way ?
Whoever wants these to be worn by our fans must be a totally bigotted, myopic NON football fan and can only see MANU through their red tinted glasses! Exactly the type of thing which gets us hated, abused and villified throughout the uk.! Stop it now, i for one am sick of being laughed at because of our increasing debt problems (i believe Panarama have a programme tues 1030 about The glaziers and how the debt is MUCH WORSE than we thought) and that fckin t shirt is not going to help.
Middyred
Who do your loyalties lie with….Those fans listed above
on the t-shirt, or United??! The reason we’re probably hated is because the amount of glory hunting fans that we’ve got as well as peoples jealousy towards us….oh and probably because some of our fans are as fickle as you……
Rai, Fickle? i was a red prob LONG before you were even a twinkle in your old mans eye! What i cant get to grips with, coming from a time when both MANCHESTER teams supported each other when in different comps, are the new ‘fans’ who seem intent on isolating us against all other fans by being obnoxious, arrogant, foul mouthed and most of all band waggon jumpers. As you so rightly stated in your post the amount of glory hunting fans seem to actually go against us, but i suppose that is the price of fame isnt it? Does this stupid t shirt actually serve any purpose whatsoever ? methinks it is the brainchild of someone who doesnt like England and is using Man U as an excuse to vent is feelings!
Middyred…. No one is forcing u to wear it… Chill.
Personally I like it as it’s a reminder to all them dick head Ingurland fans who actively voice their hatred against us during England matches & shows them up for the pathetic losers they are.
I doubt it will encourage people to “punch me in the head” but I fancy wearing one in the pub just to reinforce the point and reason why I won’t be crying when we get knocked out in the quarters.
I will be watching England and wishing Rooney and carrick well along the team but with no where near the same gusto or passion as I do the Reds! Likewise I will be watching every other game with intrigue as I love all football (unlike ur post suggests)
However come start of season it’s back to normal and I will be supporting the Reds as though my life depends on it!
Super tshirt super idea
delighted you dropped the part out about Kai Rooney, that was just sick . Makes yo wonder how some peoples heads work u know
Middyred
How do you justify supporting John Terry and Ashley Cole, whilst still ‘being a red’
……exactly…..fickle
RAI, i will be supporting my NATIONAL TEAM, irrespective of which individual clubs they play for. I assume that it is YOUR country too? Also, do you think for one minute that the fact that the England players play for different clubs affect the way they play for each other in the England squad? I DONT THINK SO! They’ll be playing as a team, as a team that represents England, in short you and me both. Think about it.
MiddyRed – I can’t really work out what your point is. You seem to be angry about a lot of things but I don’t really see the connection. You are talking about fans taking the piss out of the debt, fans jumping on the bandwagon of success and being glory hunters, fans being foul mouthed… but what does any of that have to do with the stance some United fans have towards England?
@middyred – If you’re complaining about foul mouthed and obnoxious fans I’d take a re-read of your first post.
And which United fans would they be who hate their National Team?
You can support United and England at the same time. Someone is supporting cole and terry from the footballing point of view. Supporting england does not mean endrosing what terry or cole do its just that for that period of time you want them to do well on the pitch for those 90 mins and play to the best of their ability. difficult to understand why some people cant get that.
Perfect and worth purchasing!!
United > England!
Fuck ingerland I’m no hypocrite
AIG alexisgod.
exactly my sentiments.
I’ll support whoever represents my country for that short period no matter what my feelings are towards them.
It’s outrageous to suggest that what a tiny proportion of fans do applies to all England fans. Just as it would be outrageous to suggest that all us reds have the same views as the prick who got the ’96 not enough’ shirt printed.
United is my club, England is my country and I support both with passion and respect.
COME ON ENGLAND!!
@ aig
well said. it should be about the nation, not the individuals.
I cant imagine a world cup and not supporting a team. AND if that team has my main man Roooney, and till few days RIO, it has to be has to be England. Agreed the fans of the country have a problem when it comes to clubs, but its WC for gods sake we need to choose sides. No matter what Am going to support England to my last breath.. I dont care if that means have to cheer Stevie G or Lampard. well thats the beauty of football.
And Scott, your anti-england posts lately is starting to give me an headache. Love your blog, and if u think Rooney is ManUtd’s own, you have to respect the lad and atleast show some support for the lad.
Till August I can escape the blues and enjoy the world cup.
middyred
get the fuck off here.
ur a typical glory fan……..part of being a mancunian or proper utd fan is UNITED>ENGLAND
middyred your a disgrace
UNITED>ENGLAND
I’ll order one for Ricky Hatton, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl size please.
I’ve bought one with slightly less wording on the front.
UNITED > ENGLAND
I’m not anti-England. But in all honesty how can you ever bring yourself to support a team with Cashley, Terry and Gerrard in it?
@GAZZA.
WTF are you on about ? FFS keep up.
@brucethomas.
Great shirt and to the point. You CAN support both FFS.
Two different TEAMS. One club, the other Country. GET IT?
Surely we can support the country without supporting individuals? We don’t have to support idiot fans of England. We don’t have to support idiot players of England. Also, we have to face the reality that there might have been/will be idiots who wear a Manchester United shirt. I’m not saying there were or ever will be, I’m just saying it’s a logical possibility. The Club is bigger than any individual. Surely, the same is true for the country? I’m hoping that England (collectively) represent the country well. Of course they won’t win it – not close. For that, and everything else, we have MANCHESTER UNITED!!!!
i would imagine if i was english i wouldnt support the national team, as a few posters have said how can you be sane and cheer the likes of lampard or gerrard when they score?
the england fans IMO are hypocrites as they booo rooney etc week in week out then wank all over him once he pulls a white shirt on….fuck that
@ Gazza
“part of being a mancunian or proper utd fan is UNITED>ENGLAND”
absolute bollocks that pal.
im anti engerlandFC ‘cos of all the bollocks about the Irish i had to listen to growing up here through the seventies and seeing the educationally sub-normal borderline retards that follow that shower of shit, not to mention the anti MUFC shite they sing while some of the engerlund team plays professionally for MUFC.
when sport is hijacked by the mindless nationalists and bandwagon george cross flying cunt wankers who never follow football ’til the next WC comes round you have to realise it’s just sheep, not too bright, but oh so willing to indoctrinate their twat kids cos ‘this is england’, (england uber alle?),well we’re all europeans now so enjoy the football festival of the world guys, as always i’ll piss my pants and the carpet too when the tossers go out again
also i think certain players put far too much stock in the national team and sadly let their wage paying domestic clubs down badly by saving themselves,hoping to get an MBE or some such shit,too much hoping for CBE or some such shit, look at who they give that crap away to anyway
and i have no sympathy for Rio, at least he’ll be fit in time for the new season, and seeing as there’s no international competition to follow it and i’d like to see a decent shift from him next year if he can fucking concentrate for 90 minutes at a time on football for fuck’s sake
Part of being a proper united fan is supporting united and it’s players end of. It’s got nothing to do with England.
@everyone who doesn’t care about England.
If your foreign ok I understand and this doesn’t apply to you.
If your English, this applies. When Gerrard scores I don’t scream Gerrard I scream England for all I care they could be fucking robots. If Rooney scores I’ll shout Rooney as well as England as I would shout Hernandez if he score for Mexico or Vidic if he scores for Serbia. There can be a difference to supporting a team and supporting the players. Thats how it can be done.
For those that write rude and damn right insulting comments about England could you please stop. There are United fans who care about England and your comments are unwanted by them. Of course you have a right to voice your opinion as anyone has, but not to cause others upset. Why would you want to cause upset to a fellow United supporter anyway. Im English, not Irish, not northern Irish, not Welsh, not Scottish but i wouldn’t dream of being insulting to the teams of these countries as I know alot of United fans are from there. Comments like I hope England lose and the national anthem is shit are unneeded and dont serve any constructive purpose other than to isolate one group of fans from another. If Insults are aimed at England then I have to retaliate. I will aim personally insults back to you and not generalise about your countries or cultures as you would seem to want to do to me. Its a shame that common decency and curtious behaviour isnt a common factor here on therupublikofmancunia. Its a kick in the teeth for those that care about the site, other United fans and the hard work thats gone into both.
GoatinaUnitedShirt
you say your post only appiled to english people then you talk about the rest of the home nations and rep.ireland??
@Ulster Red
Yes I did and I appologise I think I thought something whilst writing something else. Hope you understand
GoatinaUnitedShirt
lol its dead on mate, just didnt understand what you where getting at!
I can see that this is degenerating into an Anti English tirade rather than anything to do with supporting ManU. but
considering that a huge majority of ‘fans’ are Irish and from the Nationalist side at that i can understand it. After all, the main reason why ManU is picked as an English team to support is their traditional Catholic connections from days of yore. Supporting England if you are English during the world cup is hardly Racist or whatever label you try and pin on it, its merely supporting the team who represents your country, in our case, England. Tell me, if the Republic of Ireland were in the WC , you would support them surely?
@Ulster Red
Im all for people saying I wont be following England, thats their choice its the insults that are just uncalled for. When Scott wrote this piece I dont think he had hard core anti England feelings backed up with hatred and insulting behaviour. The t-shirt can be read as an explanation to the masses why some Manchester United fans feel the way they do, that there is justification. And in any case Scott can say what he likes its his blog and he has journalistic liscence as it were.
Come on Goat – you have to admit the national anthem IS pretty boring and dreary. Compare it to Brazil’s, France’s, Italy’s, Spain’s – even Germany! It’s woeful.
middyred
who exactly are you talking to in your post at 15.51?
Ulsterred. No-one in particular, but to anyone who thinks that way.
Ulsterred. re my last, pff,ffs e.g.
@bigphil2003
I would prefer the national anthem to England being different to the anthem for Great Britain, I thought it was Land of Hope and Glory but God Save the Quen seemed to have stuck. But even then for God save the Queen tobe the anthem for Great Britain can be deemed insulting to some home ntionals.
my point is this is a discussion, not insult throwing. Its nice to chat to the reasonable minded
If English people choose not to give a fuck about Ingerlund then fair play to them, no need for some of the stick on here. Great t-shirt Scotty.
middyred @ 16.10 – Ulsterred. re my last, pff,ffs e.g.
dont get ya?
PS Send a copy to Adrian Durham and the rest of the little Ingerlunders on Talkshite. They will be seething mate!!!
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Ulsterred. read pff , ffs post @15.10
@redmegleeker. U ok mate, want me to phone a doctor? U having a stroke or something?
middyred
got ya…sorted….
What I would say, is that it has always seemed to me that the majority of real England fans (as in those who travel and attend games at Wembley) are supporters of smaller club sides who don’t have any genuine rivalry with clubs like United so I can forgive the vast majority of England fans cheering him on like the legend he is.
At the risk of getting burned i’ll hold my hands up and admit that I seem to be missing that particularly United gene that makes me hate Ingerland, i’ve never really felt that way about it. I admit that my love for United far outweighs anything I feel for England but I think that’s the same for supporters of big clubs in general.
Now, of course there’s an element of hypocrisy when it comes to things like the World Cup. I despise the ground John Terry walks on but come the world cup I support the country of my birth and would love to seem them do well so I guess that means supporting that wanker too but I take comfort in the fact that supporters all over the country have the same split loyalties when it comes to our players too.
At the end of the day, club football is incredibly tribal and it stirs our emotions to love, hate and divide.
Personally, I see International football as a break from that, where for 4 weeks (well, 2 for us English normally
), every 4 years we can let go of that a bit, celebrate with people we normally wouldn’t and at the very least, tolerate players like Terry and Gerrard just a touch.
So forgive me, but I for one will support England in the World Cup.
Course, soon as it’s over… back to the hate and come on UNITED!
@GTull – great post mate. Doesn’t change my views on the “Ingerland Brigade” but you made your point better than 99% of the people on this or the previous thread.
Choose petty small mindedness. Choose lumping the idiotic minority of the largest support base in the country in with the rest of us. Choose living in the the past. Choose not getting football fans. Choose parochial tribalism over football. Choose booing Michael Owen when he plays for another side then singing his praises when he plays for us. Choose booing Ronaldo when he appeared on the screen at the Charity Shield in 08. Chose singing anti-Berbatov songs. Choose somehow not assuming all those fans were representative of the entire United fanbase. Choose hypocrisy. Choose going a long time without a trophy as a reason for not supporting. Choose being a bit of a bitter twat, then claiming Liverpool are twats for being bitter. Chose ABE because some of them are ABU. Choose nonsense. Choose thinking you’re representative of Manchester.
Sorry Guys this is Starting to get out of hand and I’m starting to get really offended.
Pff,ffs comment contains blatent Anti English sentiments and should be Removed. If any Englishman wrote that then all hell would break loose. How fuckin dare you call us Sub normal borderline Retards just because we follow our national football team.
I’m stunned to find out from this that I’m not a proper United fan because I also choose to support the team who represent the country where I was born and my family before that.
What a waste of money, tears, hours, passion, talk I have spent wrongly believing I was a proper fan. Clearly I was
deluded when those who only support United have a right to
call themselves proper fans.
Rooney and Carrick should instantly prove their dedication to United and come back from South Africa now and if they don’t they can fuck off to Liverpool.
Incidentally those who claim how we are holier than thou when it comes to other clubs fans. Take a look back through the comments on this story and consider whether this could have been a balanced argument or it really needed to descend into the abusive mess it’s become.
Makes me proud of United fans!
@james21
“How fuckin dare you call us Sub normal borderline Retards just because we follow our national football team.”
I agree whole hearted mate I dont have to be supporting England to be a sub normal borderline retard I can be one of those any time of the day. But it does go to show that I never really achieved anything in life and my father looking down on me would be gutted that Im only a borderline retard. He said I’d never ammount to anything and never achieve any goals thats probably why he topped himself.
I hate the way the media big up every single player, ask players if they think Ingurland can win the WC, harp on about 1966 like Ingurland are the only team that have ever won it, the hype, the arrogance, the disgusting complacency by the media and lack of respect towards other national teams. Cunts like Terry and Gerrard in the national team. Ingurland always dissapointing the nation. The small section of Ingurland supporting muppets who mock the Munich tragedy and chant anti-Utd chants. All this puts me off supporting Ingurland. For other people these things don’t matter, so fair enough. Everyone has their reasons and their own views in this topic. No need for arguments to sprout because of differing opinions.
@middyred
Who cares if United fans follow Ingurland or not? What’s it to you?! Nobody is telling you wear that tee.
That tee pretty much say why my once patriotic support of the national team deteriorated in to nothing.
Personally I couldn’t care less about Ingurland. They are a bunch of overpaid primadonnas. Ingurland lack mental toughness under pressure, technical ability, bottle when taking penalties. All this shower of shite the this is our year media build up. Constantly ramming 1966 down our throats. Talk about living on past glories. Even Uruguay have won more world cups! When Ingurland get knocked out the world cup in the quarter finals by losing on penalties I’ll be laughin the faces of those knuckle draggin flat footed ABU cnuts. Ingurland are shite mate. Simple as.
@pff, ffs.
What a post mate. Hilarious.
@ King Eric
I agree, Scott should send one to Talksport…Adrian Durham will flip lol!!! He’d go on about it for weeks….Porkie would probably have a heart attack bless him….Ronnie Irani would get all patriotic but who gives a fuck no one listens to him anyway!!
Really, I find this hatred to your country really lame.
The point of cheering for your national team, is that above all the patriotic sense approaches all people. Robinho is a cunt, ex-Shitty and all, but I’m all in favour that this MoFo score and give us the WC.
Loving your team, doesn’t mean hating your NT.
@alphars. Those SAME ‘overpaid primadonnas’ are the ones who play for YOUR team and everyone elses team. They dont cease to be overpaid primadonnas as soon as they get back to their respective clubs.! Ingurland , as you put it, are NOT, surprise surprise, a football CLUB, they represent US, well the ENGLISH at any rate., and are NOT a threat to Manu as yr post seems to imply.
@middyred
I have to agree that alot of the players are rediculously over paid if you take into consideration their success on the pitch. I mean the wages that Terry and Gerrard are on in particular is that warranting a league winner, champions league winner and world cup winner. Terry and Gerrard have only managed one of the triplet.
Loving the t-shirt, good design and I like the font. Nice on Scott, hope it sells well.
United>England
bigphill2003 – You don’t like Kyle Lafferty, and you call our national anthem dreary, you sure you’re from norn iron lol.
@middyred
Ingurland are a threat to who?! I never said they were a threat to United in any shape or form. Bar Rooney and Carrick I ent bothered mate. I am anti Ingurland a bit like most are anti United. What is your problem with that? Ingurland are losers and when they knocked out on penalties in the quarter finals lets see who the media decide to blame for this. I bet it will be United linked in some shape or form. Represent me? My country?! Ha! Ask the flat foots if this is my country! I think they will disagree mate.
@ GoatinaUnitedShirt.: You and I would probably be reading from the same sheet but for all the reasons (and then some) listed on that shirt.
Like AlphaRS, I used to support England. However, the more I came to realise that there were actually very few England supporters among the masses of Ingerlund supporters, the harder it became to support them.
The notion of supporting the 11 best footballers born in England against the best 11 from any other nation is now sadly just an ideal. Why? Well, among many reasons, I find that rather than belittling those that ruin the experience of supporting the national team, the media fuels them. For example, this is the first tournament I can remember that has had so little reference to 1966 in the build up. Perhaps it’s finally beginning to sink in. Then again, if England were to reach the quarter finals, I’m sure the hysteria would go into overdrive again …
I could spend ages writing about this, and have broadly articulated my feelings in the past, but I appreciate people (myself included!) have short attention spans and also I’d just be repeating myself anyway.
Suffice to say that there’s nothing wrong with truly supporting the 11 best footballers representing this country. Unfortunately, it isn’t that simple and hasn’t been for a long while now. If you can still get to that ideal, good on you. If not then you’re either going to post pro-Ingerlund comments or United>England comments.
I don’t see an inbetween.
@ppf, ffs. “also i think certain players put far too much stock in the national team and sadly let their wage paying domestic clubs down badly by saving themselves,hoping to get an MBE or some such shit,too much hoping for CBE or some such shit, look at who they give that crap away to anyway”
This is my first post and feel i har to write it as i have never read so much bullshit it my life do you think when Rooney puts on the United shirt he is thinking about getting a MBE no he doesnt neither do any other united players why you have come to this conclusion i do not know, and playing badly to save themselves for international duty were have you seen this happen before and who with?
I also think that as United fans we are spoiled. We watch a much better team week in week out. In comparison Ingerlund are just awful. Summed up by a piss poor 3-0 result against a South African pub team.
Rai – Irani is a knob ain’t he. He said this morning its imperative that Hart plays as he brings “energy to the team”. Energy? A fucking keeper? Pardon?
All this thread is missing, is god save the queen by the sex pistols. No future!!!!
King Eric – yeah he’s a complete knob, I know women who talk more sense about football than he does (just about anyway)…I reckon the only reason Alan Brazil puts up with him is because Brazils half pissed most of the time, probably glad he doesn’t have to do most of
the talking. Kelly is just as annoying, he hates United you can tell
from his commentating…
Rai – I can stick Irani and Kelly, but Cunty is a complete wanker.
Willie – You’ve got a point there mate!! A radio station full of so many retards shouldn’t be so addictive!!!! Parry is a legend though, met him last year he’s just as barmy off air
?Does the T shirt as smart as it is, have a Saint George cross on the back?
MiddyRed – you’re spot on here!!
These others are idiots…..
They can say what they like, about not supporting Steve G, Lampard etc but if they signed for united they’d support them in a heartbeat (just like we did with Alan Smith.)
I’m not disagreeing with United > England – in my eyes United will always take precedence – but to not support england cos of the national press, opposition players and fans is ridiculous. Actually, it’s pathetic…
@ Goatinautdshirt at 17:36
That is a fantastic post mate Even in my offended state I had to laugh out loud at that. Your poor Dad.
@Rai
You’re like a broken record mate, like I said to you before Indian Cricket fans hate Harbajan Singh but cheer when he takes wickets so all sports fans can be accused of being hypocrites.
You’re probably a good bloke mate so no offence.
@ Middyred
Havn’t always agreed with you in the past but on this blog your wasting your breath you just can’t get through to some people that some of these comments are offensive.
Having supported Utd all my 37 years I’m not a proper Utd Fan Because I support my National team. I suppose Its Ok for Beckham, G and P Neville ,Scholes, Butt and Even Giggs support England Because this T Shirt doesn’t apply to them Just Utd Supporters or Not true Utd supporters like us.
@james21
I’ve heard some damn right offensive things too mate. Couple that with Scotts points and that will give you an indication why I can’t be asked with Ingurlund. If you support United and Ingurland good for you. I’m not asked about that it certainly does not mean you are any less of a United fan than the next man. That simply is not true. You chose to support your national team. I do and others do not. Simple as. I can’t understand why everyone is arguin about it. But Middyred certainly did not help getting his point of view across effectively with his first post. That kinda language is always gonna cause controversy. But each to their own. Hopefully Rooney scores a hatfull and Carrick reminds us of what he can do after this season because the past 3 seasons he has been instrumental in United winning the league. My momney is on Spain but I expect Brazil to suprise us too this time.
Seems a bit bitter all of this, singling out the faults of minorities and then using it to sterotype all other England supporters. Supporters are weird anyway, no matter who they are supporting.
@AlphaRs
I can totally understand what you have said about people calling you and can understand why you won’t support England during the WC.
Yes mate I was offended by pff,ffs comment about being a retard, If he put a smiley on it I’d probably have Laughed. I don’t want to Insult anybody but thought his comment was very harsh but at least I know where his cards lie.
Middyreds comment is probably true, I certainly wouldn’t wear the shirt in Middleton or anywhere during an England game. I’ve been punched just for wearing my Utd shirt.
We’re all Reds and you’re all my type of people because we all support the best team in the World. I can’t wait till Scott decides its time for the Annual ROM piss up. Blackpool Away sounds perfect.
Can’t wait for the new season.
@james21
Yes mate we are all reds and we support Manchester United. The greatest team in the world. Love United. Be United.
@ James
I’m a broken record because I’ve not changed
Im not calling everyone a hypocrite for supporting both teams, but that’s just my opinion buddy
my views on this topic
Dunno if anyone has noticed but Manchester United don’t even play again until AFTER the World Cup so you might as well support your country during the World Cup.
It isn’t exactly a “choice”, is it?
@ James 21 sorry my last post didn’t make sense, I meant to say I’d feel like a hypocrite if I was to support both teams, but as stated it’s all about opinions…each to their own…
@willie – haha believe me I am! I love the rest of the lads but lafferty’s a right twat I’m afraid, too big for his boots when really he’s proved nothing so far. And on the anthem thing I think we should have our own rather than sharing one with England.
@ Rai you like mike parryheid? ( and a Everton fan) totally numptie and for journalistic now who , Prat.
Ony Lad that listens to talk shite and believes the crap they tirade, do you understand callers ratings?
Anyway its a commercial station that want morons to call, like hi…. love the show! I am Dave from liverpool, and then spill zero we aint heard before.
What I do know.
Nice to see Eric back on the blog.
Get A LAUGH tommorow when i read you REDS comments, off for a fight.
Redscot – I find Parry kinda funny (especially when he takes the piss outta Andy Townsends massive nose), I don’t agree with most things he says, but he’s a fat funny fucker…it might be garbage sometimes but it’s more entertaining that FiveLive…If you spend as much time driving as I do there’s not much else on!!!
As a scot, my reasons for hating England are more numerous, but I would find it difficult to cheer United on if we had such utter cunts playing for us. There are some players who you hate but would obviously love if they played for your club… I was about to list some examples but I can’t actually think of any at the moment. But anyway, if tiny tears or Cashley were turning out in a United shirt, i’d still think they were cunts. Because they are.
Similarly, my taste for my own national side has been diminished now we’ve brought back bellends like Kris Boyd. I’ll be watching most of the games in the world cup, but my support will probably go to any non-english side which has the United player in it.
But there are other reasons why you shouldn’t really want England to win the world cup. As well as just being generally a bit of a shithole, we do have a league full of foreign managers and players. Why? Because 99% of English players have the flair sucked out of them at youth level, are one-dimensional, and tactically inept. And then when they finish their careers, most of them don’t want to stay in the game because most of the love they had for it has been bred out of them, and the ones that do are mostly too thick to be good enough. The Premier League is the best and most exciting in the world, but England has the worst football culture in Europe.
Guys it’s already started!!!!!!!!!
Headlines today in the Daily Star, “Rooney the looney”, they were showing the headlines in various papers on Sky Sports News, all of them questioning his temperament, they’re already looking for a fucking scapegoat!!!! Middyred what do you make of that??!!!
@redscot
Ha! Talk Shite make me laugh. Each of the presenters take the opposite view and say stupid things to get ratings and people to call in. And then you hear Stan Collybore throwing his 10 cents in. If I fancy a good laugh I have a listen. Some of the anti United sentiment on there makes me chuckle.
@Rai
The ABU’s already looking for a scapegoat! Typical. Get ready to download your Rooney dartboard! Typical Ingurlund mate.
ummm…….go all whites?
All morning on Talksport Ingerland fans slagging Rooney off, fuckin typical
Who the fuck listens to TalkSport. It went down hill after Whale was sacked and the fat one pegged it. Parry is a nobody, Townsend thinks hes the gods gift, he was a footballer in the Stilian Petrov mold, hardly Paul Scholes. And because he was no fucking good and couldnt command a decent wage hes had to get a pensioners job as a glorified paper boy which is all Talksport is – handing out the daily stars titbits. I really dont think Townsend knows what it is to be in the limelight and have a nation resting on your shoulders because fuck all else at England come up to his level. Its a shame the fucking mockneys drive round in their arsing white vans listening to a fucking Irishman and not understanding the arse is happy that the English are tearing themselves apart, and hes stoking the fire.
Simple as, if you listen to Blatter, Townsend, Platini anyone forreign with opinions on England then your a fucking traitor and thick as pig shit.
great t-shirtk, i’ve just put the pic on my facebook lol@middyred u grumpy old man sit down and shut up!
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
Townsend isn’t an Irishman. He wore our jersey. And served us well. Sorry if the fact that he might be Irish is a problem for you. ;o)
As an Irishman, who was at Lansdown in 95, I’d still like to see ing ger land pull their weight. Light as that may be, particularly if Wayne’s on the bench.
Since WE were cheated out of a place…..go all whites!!!!
@rednz
No I have no problem with the Irish, little tip when reading things your mood determines what you believe the writer is writing rather than what is written.
Townsend played for Ireland, feels more at home in Ireland. Thats not a problem, Ireland is a lovely country with great people. But you dont ask a Tory to lend support and talk up the government if the government is Labour.
I really cant understand peoples logic who hate england just because of terry,cole etc etc.Guys this is about england and not about chelski or liverfools.Hell even a small child would understand it.
I have to admit that of all the TalkSport presenters, Irani is an idiot. Always find it slightly embrassing that he’s an alleged United supporter when he also seems to support like 15 other clubs. And strangely loves Germany?
I hate Quinn more. He’s just a fool. The fact he’s in South Africa to provide ‘expert analysis’ is hilarious. Not to mention he seems to be the oracle on all things dipper related, despite the fact he was never good enough to play for anyone half decent.
Personally though, I quite like TalkSport. I mean, it’s totally contrived and the debates are set up purely to get people to phone in but when you’re driving home and you’re like me and hate pop music, it’s perfect.
GTull – Spot on mate. Irani talks fucking non stop about Bayern. Why? He ain’t a United fan, never in a million years. As for Quinn , fucking clueless. Only last night he was talking about Higuian and the rest of the “Spanish Team”. Scouse cunt.
Parry I can stomach. Infact him and Mike Davies last week were excellent.
@rai. Wazza IS , or was, or could be a loose cannon at times and dont deny it. The 08/09 season he was an embarrassment on the field, cameras catching him effing and blinding at the refs, liners, oppontents even team mates. How he wasnt sent off virtually every game god only knows. Last season however, what a difference! Apparantly, according to Graham Poll in todays Mail ( i buy it sometimes when the MEN is not worth the 45p) he has had some sort of anger management classes which obvioulsy worked . No more tantrums or vile tirades, just got on with the job of being almost top goal scorer in the Prem and being an example to all with his work ethic and unselfishness. Just lets hope that he doesnt forget all the hard work that he has done to achieve that on the WC stage, because our gutter press just cant wait to pounce on the slightest misdemeanor by ANY of our WC team. Fckin parasites.
GTull & King Eric
agree with both lads
@King Eric…
Claims he stood on the stretford end through his youth and claims occasionally that he’s a season ticket holder. Yet claims ties to West Ham, Bolton and described the Anfield atmosphere as special.
And yeah, what’s with the Bayern love? I thought we all hated Bayern??? He came out with COME ON SCHWEINSTEIGER the other morning, wtf??? Who are you trying to win over, United or England fans with that one???
He tends to come in with comments that are generic and safe. The kinda comments i’d come out with if I was asked to be a Cricket expert.
Quinn is an immediate switch off for me. As soon as he starts talking about liverpool i’m not interested. More famous for celebrity Fit club than he is for football.
@ash, you’re completely right mate – it ain’t about chelski or liverpool. Its about the fact that these “men” are complete cunts.
People say if they played for United we’d feel different. Ridiculous thing to say because these scumbags could never be United players. The ability to make it at United is about a lot more than footballing talent.
I always liked watching England as a kid during world cups, but seeing that fan with the Rooney shirted Shrek in the Japan game, plus learning about those fan’s antics and Anti UTD stance in general, I’d be comfortable in that Mancunia shirt.
i do not honestly understand why some people on here chose to support other nations just because they have one or two united players playing for them, when so does the England team and you choose not to support England because of the fans when you do not know the E.g Serbia fans , and also im sure there teams contain “Money-grabbing Cunts” aswell.
When you’ve lived your whole life in the North West, when everyone in your class also had Welsh, Irish or Scottish surnames. When you learn your History and look beyond the arrival of the Angles, Saxons and other Germanic settlers, when you read about the Britons of Rheged and the invading Roman’s fear and respect for them, when you realise we’re older than England by 4000 years you start to question your Englishness, but because you feel at home here, you make do with the ‘English’ tag until the Mancunian Republic becomes a reality.
U can decide to hate..or see the good
i say love>hatred rather than utd>england.
bigphil – Hello pal. Your last sentence is bang on.
I can’t boast to have more than 2 decades of football watching experience, nor do I come from anywhere near Manchester or support its club. I do however occasionally enjoy the posts here and appreciate the perspective of a Man United fan, and do appreciate good football from a neutral’s perspective (when it comes to the EPL). I do however wish to see England do the best it can/
Living in South-East Asia, a region overflowing with strangely ‘patriotic’ Manchester Utd fans and England supports to boot, largely due to clever marketing/club imaging/football ideals, I haven’t stumbled across the same zeal with which “true-blooded” Mancunians hate the national team a la the blog post.
Oddly confusing really, especially since the shirt and most of the fans take offence in the manner which other club’s supporters treat the Manchester players, when you probably treat their players in the same manner. The irony is the players themselves don’t get the “support” that’s so vaunted from the club supporters… Didn’t Beckham get booed or sent death threats by his own club supporters after his sending off against Argentina? I don’t think Rooney/Carrick/Ferdinand(unfortunately injured)/Beckham would’ve intentionally lost a World Cup Final to prevent Gerrard/Cashley/Terry from getting a winner’s medal. If they were kicking lumps out of each other in a premiership match months ago and are willing to get together for a national cause, can’t imagine what the big fuss is about from the fan’s perspective. Surely you’d like to claim to have the best player in the world in Wazza, and have some irrefutable proof to back that up in light of Barcelona’s posturing.
If you deem yourself worthy enough to judge their “manhood” because of their paycheck, I’d say most people wouldn’t walk the path less chosen should the opportunity arise for themselves. If judging them based on their ability to swindle referees and dive, Ronaldo did make some horrendous ones, and even my most fervent admiration for Rooney’s ability and determination can be put aside to admit he has gone down a bit too easily sometimes. If it’s based on geographical boundaries, then why can’t this form of rivalry extend beyond the national boundary confounds me.
It’s more or less universally agreed (even all the way down in Asia) that British tabloids generate staggering amounts of trash… Why you would take offence at the footballing critique of news material that readily displays topless models and whichever latest celebrity has recently unwittingly (or wittingly in some cases) flashed herself? Stumbling about Arsenal blogs, they’re similarly up in arms in the manner which they perceive local papers to slander their supported club. And the level of success which they enjoy is nowhere near the giddying heights of ‘Mancunia’, if ardent Mancunians would ever consider that success at all. Who wants to know about the scandals of Luton Town or Heresford when the flavour of the day/year/decade is so obviously Manchester/any top 4 side for that matter.
Logically speaking, if you want dear Rooney and co. of the Utd Brigade to get some much needed R&R, may as well hope he commits an unforgiveable FIFA diplomatic mistake and getting himself sent home on the next flight and letting England rampage through to the finals where Lampard/Cole/Gerrard get themselves injured or exhausted for the coming season.
Then again, logic never figured much in the ‘blood and guts, win or die’ mentality of top level club football.
When it takes a half-Brit mixblood to attempt to stir up some patriotism in a blog based miles away from where he lives, it’s a sad state of affairs indeed. A WC win may even start a self-perpetuating cycle of improved footballing standards on a grassroots level that would ultimately culminate in more technically adept footballers (imagine, a Carrick that can dribble!) that wins you more European titles.
Just a handy thought.
middyred reads the Dail Mail? What a surprise …
Excellent post BTW, xol.
To all you guys who find it impossible to support both Manchester United AND England, this must be the most juvenile topic on the net. I would not mind betting that there would not be one of you over the age of 25, maybe 30 at the most.
Please go and argue your point with our boys in the current England squad and the many United legends who were proud to wear the white shirt of their country in the past starting with Sir Bobby Charlton.
See how grown up you feel then.
ITS JUST A T SHIRT! (lighten up everyone!)
Frank – I am 36 pal in November and I feel nowt towards Ingerlund. Its nothing to do with being “grown up”. Infact that statement makes you sound a bit juvenile.
Sorry mate, you must be an exception. Guarantee that you will feel something about ‘Ingerlund’ when you get a bit older
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