The City fans were going nuts outside Wastelands yesterday, celebrating their new takeover. It certainly isn’t a case of once bitten, twice shy, following the disastrous takeover by Thaksin Shinawatra. Despite being described as “a human rights abuser of the worst kind”, the City lot were more than happy to have him in charge of their club, if it meant a chance of ending their 32 year barren run, in which the club haven’t won anything.
Unfortunately for them though, that didn’t happen, with the blues finishing 9th last season. After having his assests frozen and becoming under increasing pressure, with a second “fit and proper” test to be run, Dr Death surrendered his majority stake in the club to Abu Dhabi United Group for Development and Investment yesterday.
Their aims are rather overwhelming, claiming they want to “solve all the club problems and clear any pending payments” and that they will “comprehensively support the club by bringing the best football players in the world.” They want success on a “European and world level”, with “the qualification of Manchester City to the European Champions League (for) next season 2009-10″ also highlighted in the statement.
So, do we have another Chelsea on our hands? Sadly, it’s much worse than that.
Once upon time, it seemed as though Chelsea’s reign would be infinite. They had all the money in the World and United didn’t even put up a fight in the blues’ back to back title victories. They were an efficient machine, and whilst they didn’t dazzle in their performances, they were so strong and consistent they didn’t ever look like losing.
On the back of their title in the summer of 2006 when they signed three of the best players in the World for their positions in Ashley Cole, Ballack and Shevchenko, we were left to fear the worst. We had already gone three seasons without a title win, now it looked as though it would be years more. It was utterly depressing.
Whilst their success seemed to come from nowhere, some people might forget that in the ten years before Roman Abramovich bought Chelsea, they had won two FA Cups (as well as reaching another final), a League Cup, the UEFA Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup. The season before he bought them they finished 4th in the league for the 2nd time in the past 10 years, as well as 3rd, 5th and 6th place finishes. They had also reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League in 2000 where they were knocked out by Barcelona, who finished 2nd in La Liga.
Under Abramovich they have finished 2nd twice and 1st twice, as well as winning one FA Cup, two League Cups and reaching the Champions League final. They have certainly stepped up a level but it’s not comparable to the leap Manchester City are expected to make under new ownership, after winning nothing in 32 years, at “Far Eastlands”. Another difference here is the money available to both clubs, with the City owner’s funds apparently dwarfing those of Abramovich.
The ramifications of this? Well, who knows yet, I’m not going to start panicking. Whilst there are going to be plenty of players who would be willing to move to City for the money, to get the biggest players interested they have to do the work on the pitch.
In Abramovich’s first season in charge, Chelsea were already in the Champions League, meaning the club had its appeals other than a large pay packet. The club reached the semi-finals in that first season. Chelsea could move quickly in attracting and signing players because they were successful in Europe from the very beginning of Abramovich’s reign.
With City, it’s a different matter all together. They finished 9th (opposed to Chelsea’s top 4 finish the season before Abramovich took over) last season and Mark Hughes hasn’t been convincing in the UEFA Cup so far this season. The seemingly dramatic turn around at Chelsea will not be repeated with City, simply because their foundations aren’t as strong. People sing of Chelsea not having any history and it is true to club was on the brink of bankruptcy, but Abramovich certainly got a better deal for his money. Chelsea’s recent history before Roman is leagues ahead of City’s.
However, if Chelsea have proven anything it’s that having more money than anyone else doesn’t mean you’ll achieve more than anyone else. The season before last they finished second by 8 points on the day the title was one, and whilst last season was closer, they didn’t win a thing. Blackburn and Newcastle have shown similar success with their title challenges following large amounts of cash being spent, that sustained success needs a lot more than an owner with a big cheque book. Whilst money is necessary, of course, far more than that needs to be put in place. Will City do that? Only time will tell.
It is rather ironic that it is Chelsea are the receiving end of the brutality of the transfer market though, after outbidding United for the likes of Arjen Robben, Michael Essien, John Obi Mikel and the like for years. To lose out on a player Peter Kenyon was very confident in signing is a big blow to the rentboys. However, it is a worry for other British clubs if we now have a club who can essentially afford anything for any player. But as I’ve said, City will have to perform on the pitch.
Whilst City fans will hope for more signings of Robinho’s calibre, they are set to be disappointed for the time being at least. His move to City was more to do with Real Madrid not wanting to do business with Chelsea than it was the player eager to join City. He wanted to leave Real Madrid and he wanted to sign for Chelsea. His club wouldn’t allow that move, so he went to the only other club interested to get away from Real Madrid, who had made him feel worthless in their willingness to let him leave in favour of Cristiano Ronaldo. Ramon Calderon revealed that Robinho was so desperate to leave he was crying and threatened leaving for Brazil if a deal wasn’t done.
Yesterday certainly felt like the Twilight Zone though, battling out it out with City over a £30+ million transfer. Those kind of days may become more frequent over the coming years, alarmingly. Whilst it felt wrong to lose out on players to the financial muscle of Chelsea, at least they had some of their own success in recent years. To see City pip us to transfers, who have achieved nothing off their own backs in over three decades, will be a hard pill to swallow, particularly considering the ribbing we’ll be getting in the local for it!
gotta be red devil…i aint standing for no racist bluenose to dissing our club on OUR forum. I mean can you belive just because dr sully..who’s a little off his trolley said some words….the guys think theyre can comapre and compete with us????
I mean can you beleive that utter lunacy…what have they won compared to us???? And where have they been the last 100 years???
I could understand tit for tat with dips, goons and rboys..cause they have some credentials, trophies, honours, history, silverware and tradition to back their arguments up??
But a deluded chav bluenose???
aint gonna stand for that..NO WaY….and not on here
gonna nail this mother.
UTD forever!!!
We won things on the pitch.created success..that success brought more success…which inturn generated our revenues and turnover = carrington..stadia..players…our global name and brand.
SUCCESS = SUCCESS = MORE SUCCESS = MONEY
NOT money = more money = success ala shitty
Big difference between a guy who works hard all his life and attains through effort and hard work a top house and car. only to find out a dole dosser on benefits got 6 numbers up on the lotto and bought the house next door.
BIG DIFFERENCE.
tradition, class, respect, history, hard earned V classless fly by night whimsical, gifted, immoral crap.
You cant buy history or tradition or class muppet..fucking eyeball lol ha ha ha
Jesus you piece of shit,can’t you go on. You are obviously like the rest of you mob in that you obviously don’t do nothing for a living except probably ponce off the English.
And never forget Sunny you may be born in this country but you can never be English!
You can put a dog in a stable but it will never be a horse.
O and by the way I didn’t even bother to read any of the shit that you posted. I have just had a ham sarnie, it’s a pity that you can’t-it being Ramadan or some other Pagan festival.
lol lol
hypocrite showing your true colours hey…..lol
you racist thug of a chav dole dosser…
Your owners a muslim and you jump up and down..yet you beate his religion and his people. Typical dirty vile piece of shit. Ponce of the english…lol
im an accountant working for one the bigegst firms in manchester. You failed your gcse’s got kicked out of school and rest well i dont even wana go there
dog in the stable never be a horse??? that isnt even an idiom..lol joker.
dont start me on religion boy…or you wont know whats hit you….ps Enjoy the bse sarnie..im ok being hungry..its preety good
Racist fuck….
Define Jealousy:
Jealousy typically refers to the thoughts, feelings, and behaviors that occur when a person believes a valued relationship is being threatened by a rival. This rival may or may not know that he or she is perceived as a threat.
I will be not posting for a while Sunbun because I am just going to check who we might buy in the January sales.
And you right there is nothing wrong with Muslims like our new owners,it is just crows and idiots like you who spoil it for the rest.
I tell you what though I wouldn’t mind a job in that office where you say you work-there,s not much seems to get done.
shut up bluesky…first things first do you condone religious hatred….and racism???
Well if you do ala your city mate eyeballs…im sorry. i dont have time for deplorable sick outdated vil lowestof the low behaviour that racism brings…
footie banter is one thing…racism + disparaging remarks about every muslim an its religion …esp when youve been bought out by a muslim and muslim famil and his wealth…well that just sick…
I hope you’re not off his ilk
And please sunbun invest in a decent English dictionary because your spelling is atrocious and quite honestly your bad grammar is not doing your cause any good.
Wait a minute…you just a min ago slated the muslim religion..youwont be english..you’re dogs…ramadhan jabs etc….and now because i said you’re owner comes from the same family of muslims and same language and same ancestry as me…he’s ok….fickle clown
intelligence of a newt..
dont worry your owner dr sull will know soon enough what type of racist fans he’s bought into…
not gonna even reply to your sick anti muslim anti religion posts…
Footie banter i put you to bed…you didnt have a leg to stand on… your sllence was DEAFENING….
SO YOU REVERTED TO THE ONLY WAY YOU KNOW HOW….take knives out….stoop to your vile lowest and show your true colours…
peadophiles/murderers/thugs/hooligans and racists..alll the SAME!!!
Sick…. erghhhhhhhh
Piss of from our forum…havent you got owt better to do..maybe shout paki to some innocent people…give a wailed women some crap….or push a bearded gentlemen down the escalators…
RACISM …when footballers..club and bodies are trying to stamp it out it still festers like a bad smell..like a rats feaces in some places…
Is that a true indictment of yor club?
Racist are the lowest of thew low…
As for me Black white brown or yellow….i love and respect all…..1 race 1 human form….i love…and 1 graet club that is my utd…
Footie banter u couldnt deal with so Racism showed its ugly head
as ive told you this a blog…not the queens english lesson..
why are you not going racist???
Pack it in the pair of you, otherwise BOTH your IPs will be banned.
Sunil just to clear something up, you aren’t one of the mob in turbans who sit near Fergo are you?
Scott..c’mon man…utd die harder here…love your posts and blogs…support my b my club through thick and thin. One things berating your club unjustfiably…which i took then gave some football banter and utd facts he couldnt deal with..yet now look..
Ramadhan comments..ham sarnies
muslim jabs..dogs
you aint english… u ponces live off the state
mob in the turbans that sit near fergie
surely scott mate if that aint enough evidence or racist behaviour..then i dont know
i stuck up for my team UNITED..through thichk and thin i will ( under the limits of football banter) which i put that shitty fan to bed over, But i aint gonna stand for rascism….biggest contradiction being theyve now been take over by muslims..lol
His remarks are clear to see…3 years of reading your blogs..as a utd fan..and i cant believe you would ban me…for what standing up against racists..
all hope i had is lost
O.K Scotty I was only having a laugh but you are right it does tend to drift away a bit.
I saw a mate of mine in the supermarket car park before (Proper Dead Red) and I thought he would start slagging me off but his words were ‘wouldn’t it be fucking great (his words) if we became the top two teams in the country above Chelsea etc’ I thought about it for a mo and replied ‘Yeh wouldn’t it’.
That is the difference between what we said and what Sunny said when he started all this @ 18.46 last night.
I know he thinks he is witty,hilarious and very cutting edge but he gives the decent United fans a bad name.
Good luck mate.
ok eyeballs…footie banter is one thing..i can take that no probs…you give as good as you get…and i punch harder than most..thats football.
but why and whats with the racist remarks?
‘ ramadhan a pagans festival..im having my ham sarnie”
” dogs dont become horses even if in stable”
” your lot ponce of the state”
” you’ll never be english”
” are you the mobs in turbans sitting next to SAF” referring to the 4 sikh guys i know who sith in the south stand.
WHY WHY WHY racist language??? WHY in this modern age???
Explain or apologise
Me..told you black white green yellow..work live love share wit all races..my best mated are white….so are some of my rellys’
so why racism?
C’mon now Sunil get a grip of yourself you will have us all crying , don’t take things so serious it’s only a game.
I am sure Scotty will not ban you from his blog because in your own silly way you are quite entertaining-you must really pay more attention to your grammar though and then we might take you a little more serious (and I think I am probably talking for the majority of decent football fans)
And stop playing the racist card becuause it gets a bit boring after a while.
i give up….you can ban me if you want scott…
but even though i weep and cry for my utd…i love my club through 30+ years + my father and hid father before. I will not condone or back down from racists and racism…thats cowardice. We fought toooooooo damn hard to eradicate it
Good Afternoon
And that is my final post-Tara.
Thats why you call me sunil even though u know full well what my name is. And thats why you can explain all your quotes??? ” ramdhan, ham sarnies, pagan festival, mobs in turbans, ponce of the state, u wont be english” lol
ok thats not racist….when people cant explain there racist words and actions…99.9% of the time they say to thers dont play the racist card. Well your words are inblack and white…and there’s’ no getting away from them
lol lol lol
goodbye racist
Jesus Christ Sunil get a grip of yourself and don’t do anything stupid – it is only a blog. Try ringing the Samaritans explain your problem and I am sure they can help you.
I keep trying to get off the blog and you keep dragging me back on.
tare ma tane kethe ase te ao..boshrino madar chod..tare ma no tagaro..tare ma baddo chodech..
ok racist thats what i’ll do..lol
right nore more corresspondence wasting my time and effort ouver a racist thug.
Scotts articles and FELLOW UTD fans to banter with on a UTD FORUM…Talking about the greatest club in the world….MANCHESTER UNITED…WHERE WE STAND UNDER 1 UMBRELLA…ALL COUNTRIES, GENDER, AGES, COLOURS, CREED, RACES UNITED UNDER THE RED FLAG.
1 big family…you can keep spouting your racist spiel….no ones going to be wasting time reading it…
boshrina bye
Fuck me, it doesn’t take the bitters long to get fucking giddy does it?
This Robinho deal, which was obviously a suprise deadline day deal, has gone straight to their heads. Money doesn’t seem to talk as loud as these fans who are talking it up so much.
Bluesky? What kind of sane football supporter would be proud of the fact that money alone is the reason a player would sign for your shitty little club.
To say you’re in a different league is funny if not tragic. It’ll take a very long time before City are in a league where history counts.
In a different light it might be amusing to have City offering United an actuall challenge other than changing the shape of the final league tables top 9 sides come the end of the season. City haven’t done us any lasting harm and they may have won their two cup finals last year but they won’t over take United anytime soon. Or, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea for that matter.
Blimey you’re right Tom F. These shitty fans have got a bit ahead of themselves. Think they’re 10 times champions league winners.
As for Suhayl mate..where were all the utd support to help. Great comments mate…you absolutely shut that bluenose up regarding football facts and know how. Shame some vile people who dont belong on utd forums had to resort to despicable abuse and downright racist language and connotations…Surprised Scott didnt delete those racist posts.
Great comments mate..you were on a roll…
Tell me about it Tom..spot on
Thanks Stuart mate. The Scall was off his trolley. First he came on here spouting Shitty were going to become the biggest club in the world etc etc. After i had given him a dose of football knowledge and reality. He came back with nonsensical retorts. Wouldnt even get into a football argument. Just childish comments. Then the contradictions then the racist comments. Suppose showing true colours when you dont have a leg to stand on.
First he said oh i hate you rags and want ronaldo to sell hotdogs outside ours…Then contradiction when scott told him to button it…he says oh i want you in the top two..wouldnt it be great if we were both top
Then he says dont play the race card lol ” ramdhan pagan festival, ham sarnies, mobs with turbans, you’ll never be english, you lot ponce of the state” You tell me mate if that isnt racist??? lol 2nd contradiction
Then wont read any football posts and goes on about samaritans etc. When clearly he’s so deluded he needs some serious help. His opinion was blogs can be racist.
Then another contradiction..tells me ” i have to keep coming back to reply to your posts” . Well scall im a rebublik member, united die harder, forum blog reader for years and you’re a blunose unwanted thef coming where he’s not wanted” So whos telling you to fuckin come here..its our utds forums…last time i looked i wasnt on a chav shitty site…and neither do i want to be either.
Contraditions and racism gone mad. thats what you resort to and come out with when you cnt take the heat and answer fcat football contructive arguments.
Hope he doesnt ever show his ugly head in here again
top comments/posts suhayl…
Really put that weed in his place….hilarious but bob on points you made. shame some jokers who cant take the heat revert to kind. Demented idiot bluenose.
classic comments mate
mr bluesky, who would want to join mancity?
to say it bluntly, city has a poor pathetic record, trophyless in decades, and the whole team, in its entirety, is crap.
a meer handful are internationals who make little impact evenif they are fielded.
let me say it, to any bignames, playing in city is not making them blend with the status quo, lowering their pride, throwing their current status out of the window, ruining their careers. i dont see how ronaldo will be satisfied to be donning the skyblue, training with michael ball, doing crosses with stephen ireland. even is he still give his cheeky billion dollar smile, in the locker room, he would be sobbing his eyes out. its a great step down for a world reknowned player to be playing at city.
i reckon city will be trophyless once this season once again, no surprises here.
simply because, robinho an exception because he is not wanted by many, many great players will not want to join city. this is further bolstered by the fact that brazillian great Pele, and Brazillian soccer authorities, have SLAMMED robinho’s acts, criticizing him, indicating that he is a disgrace to world football, and in particular, brazillian football. it is degratory to the brazillian kid.
now, many players will share the same view, and few, will be wanting to play alongside a “brazillian disgrace”.
so mr bluesky, the fact that many players will not want to join city, will definitely show that financial powers is not enough to win the title, trophy, or even to become contenders for glory. robinho is not enough. i dont see how a meer individual can bring the team to the number 1 spot. football, or soccer, is a team game.
city will just be another team in mid table, until they improve their record, attracting great players to join them. great signings will only come, if the record attract them. money is not everything, mr bluesky. money can only work in tandem, with good results.
Here here Kel…shame bitter deluded chavos cannot understand and comprehend that fact. Seriously delusional…suppose its like a little child who’s never had a prezzie or anything worthwhile all their lives. then suddenly after many a moon. There’s a glimpse of santa…could the prezzie be on its way..is it for real…surely now is the time…
Oh shit wait a minute….it wasnt santa after all….some guy with a white beard. False dawn again….oh well many a more year in the doldrums
Ps. Read those eyeballs comments again..that faeces is sick. Apologies suhayl for hearing all that crap. Thats them and their club. Shame the deluded idiot didnt realise that 90% of all people in this country aint anglo saxon. Infact most along with the royals have a german ancestry. Also probs didnt realise that asians/muslims per proportion of popualtion top, yes top uni graduates, gcse’s, business success, academic achievement, bring 30bns in gdp in this country alone, employ nearly a million people, do many a top skilled jobs and professions, top docs solicitors, chief execs etc are muslims asians. I could go on and on. And ofcourse their fucking owner who’s supposed given them wind in their sails is a muslim.
Surprised he was allowed to spout this drivel..
Like you say though in your footballing argument…which had a tear in my eye reading..UNITED = NO1…AS A family ALL OVER THE WORLD….UNITED AS ONE UNDER THE RED FLAG…
Need many a more fan like you
NO need to apologise united4life for that council house scum. Was going to give him that lesson of history and facts. But racist fools with not an iota of a brain cell ignore and cannot digest or comprehend history life and football facts. EG how he ignored all my footie arguments to his spurious claims. Instead showed his true colours. RACIST shitty SCUM
Anyway last time im gonna post on this particular page..had enough of talking about that twat. Thanks for your comments. I still dont know why he was allowed to post what he did and his comments not deleted by the moderator. Oh well what can you do.
Like you say though…UNITED AS ONE. THE GREATEST CLUB IN THE WORLD
true mate true
i wouldnt want to be wasting much time to post and enlighten those skyblue fans, mooners as they call themselves.
i’m a chelsea fan, proud to be wearing blue.
but those SKYblue’s, after the takeover, seem to me that they are in denial and some…hallucination state, where they thought that overnight, they can be the best club in the world. oh..if that makes them happy, may they dream on forever.
i’m wearing blue, but i’m utterly disturbed that city fan are blue too.
its all right to be supporting a different club, but dear city fans, we’re all human beings. please be rational and practical. money does make the world go round, but money aint the only thing that makes a player come to a club.
i’d say, city…is pretty much, lightyears away from reaching the top of the league. please, talk about challenging for top spot only if mancity beats aston villa and tottenham first. get pass arsenal and liverpool before even thinking about wrestling top spots from chelsea and manutd.
at the rate city is going, its gonna be at least 5 years before city even reach top 7 spot.
i’m 18 this year, and when city reach the top of the premierleague…
i dont even think i’ll witness that in my lifetime.
sorry to disappoint all city fans, but top players go to manutd, chelsea, liverpool, barca, real, inter, AC..
top players want to play for a glorious club with good history and record.
without top players, its a hard way up.
and to all utd fans here, hope this season will be as exciting for both utd and chelsea. may the better team pop the champagne~ =D
i doubt city fans experience what we experienced for the past 4 years…no, for the past decades. hahaha~
here here kel