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Cole: Keano The Only Boss On The Pitch Captain

cole keaneIn light of the debate of whether John Terry should remain England captain following his disgraceful behaviour towards team mate Wayne Bridge, former United player and current United season ticket holder, Andrew Cole, has spoken about the role of the football captain.

“Captaincy in football is massively overrated, almost to the point of being irrelevant,” said Cole. “In cricket, a captain makes frequent, crucial strategic decisions. He often has vital input in selecting the batting order, he decides who bowls and when, sets fielding positions and strategy. Football captains are rarely anywhere near so important. In my whole career I can only cite Roy Keane as being, effectively, a boss on the pitch, dictating play tactically as well as emotionally, and even then Keano was often his master’s voice, for Sir Alex Ferguson. I hate to disappoint those who buy into the notion that every captain gives a Braveheart speech before a game, calling for his troops to die for him and the cause, but it’s a myth.”

Cole used the United example to explain his point further, looking at the different types of player who have captained us.

“In any given dressing room you can have 11 strong personalities, 11 captains, each capable in their role,” he continued. “Sure, some captains are shouters – Gary Neville – but so are many non-captains. Some captains are quieter and let their feet do the talking – Ryan Giggs. Others wouldn’t dream of telling you how to play, just lead by example by working hard in training and giving their all on a pitch – David Beckham. Does captaincy really require a unique temperament? No. I use Manchester United as an example because I know them best, but in recent memory Rio Ferdinand has been captain, so too Vidic, Evra, Van der Sar. It can be taken as an honour for the man with the armband but the captain’s identity, on its own, is never going to win you a match.”






 

125 Comments

  1. thesavage says:

    Impressively articulate thoughts from Cole and he’s absolutely right about Captaincy, it really is more about symbolic value than anything else and for that reason Terry should not be England Captain, plus he’s a bit of a big girls blouse.

  2. stretfordender says:

    The only thing that a captain should have though is the respect of the players. Players respected Keano, Becks VDS etc. They DO NOT respect that Twat Terry!!
    Big game tomorrow, hope to see every one else in the SE wearing Green and Gold. Lets try and get some more confidence, build up the goal difference and then watch Arse ‘batter’ Chelsea on sunday !!
    3-0 tomorrow, Rooney, Nani and an other to score.

  3. afromanc says:

    KEEEANO!

  4. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    tiger woods had to leave the sport
    terry is been painted as captain fantastic in the media today
    amazing
    speaking of amazing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv53SJcT58Q

  5. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    Tiger woods had to leave the sport of golf
    Terry is painted as captain fantastic in the media because its the world cup year
    amazing
    speaking of amazing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv53SJcT58Q

  6. eddieTheRed says:

    A captain earns his bread when his team are down and out in a match and he’s the one who inspires a comeback – Roy Keane’s performance against Juventus in the 1999 Champions League semi – final away leg is the greatest captains performance I’ve ever seen.

    Modern players don’t seem to have that mental edge that the older ones did – maybe life is a little bit softer now. Speaking of inspiration does anyone know if Vidic is playing tomorrow?

  7. Costas says:

    @eddieTheRed

    I hope Fergie today tells us that he is. I am starting to get really irritated by his situation. And I hope they put to bed the rumors about him leaving for 20million in the summer. As much as freaking Lescott!

  8. aig alex is god says:

    I dont believe much in the art of captaincy in football. A captain does not have to make tactical decisions on the field as the coach is there unlike in cricket.So cole is spot on.

    All you need is a leader in every department.We arent short on that. VDS,Rio,Evra,Fletcher,Giggs and Rooney all are leaders and inspirational figures on the field, with or witout the armband. It does not have much meaning to make an issue of it.

    I am not english and hence my view dosent matter. JT is a cunt but should remain the England Captain.

  9. Red Devil says:

    There’s only one keanoooo
    God…if there is another Keane out there…let him sign for Man United!

  10. ajopaul says:

    Sure keano inspired the team to demolish Arsenal at highbury after a spat with veira in the tunnel.

  11. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    How Good Was Roy Keane Really
    He come across as a knob with a heart
    but as a footballer and leader
    he was amazing

  12. Costas says:

    Nemanja could make a return on Saturday said Sir Alex. I will believe it when I see it.

    Here are his thoughts on Hargo:

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1191674_ferguson_explains_hargreaves_decision

  13. King Eric says:

    Apparantley Terry has been pimping his box out now at Wembley for 4 grand a time. What a cunt. AIG he cannot possibly lead a country to a World Cup. He is a disgrace and a laughing stock. Much like Ingerlund. Usual laughing stock’s with the off field circus.

  14. Tony Starks says:

    Costas – can anyone argue with that logic? of course not, the decision to drop Hargo makes perfect sense, and fits in perfectly with the previous comments

  15. Costas says:

    @Tony Starks

    I certainly don’t argue with it. It’s what should have been done all along. We have had experiences with Blomqvist, Solskjaer and Neville to know that serious injuries often take longer to get over. We shouldn’t have created false hopes. The way I see things now, we will be lucky if we manage to get Hargo back for the last 2 months of the season.

    @King Eric

    Don’t want to critisize other countries and how they prepare for the World Cup, but the media are already creating a circus. The Terry fiasco is just the tip of the iceberg. Whenever Michael Owen doesn’t play, Fergie ruins his World Cup dream. Whenever Hargo suffers a setback, his World Cup spot is in jeaopardy. We will need a lot of patience over the next 5 months.

  16. aig alex is god says:

    @Costas

    Hi mate

    I agree with you. i too wont believe it till Vida starts on Saturday. SAF explained the Hargo decision well too although i still feel he wont play any part this season but will be back next season for sure.

    @King Eric

    Not many candidates besides and wont be wise to change now with very little games left for the WC. just asking, but who do you want to lead England?.Anyways they are gonna get knocked out in the quarters.

  17. aig alex is god says:

    @King Eric

    Hi. Good morning

    Forgot my manners. Sorry for that

  18. kel says:

    Keane for me is the best captain. He is the boss, he is a fighter who can fight for his team and team mate. He had fire in his eyes.

  19. Costas says:

    @AIG

    Hi buddy. It’s a good thing that Hargo has one more year in his contract. He has 5 months of this season left to work on his fitness and start pre season training like everyone else. I wonder what we would have done if his contract was running out this summer.

    As far as Vidic goes, I think it’s time he gets back in the team. We will need him at Villa Park and at Milan.

    By the way, the West Ham game that was scheduled for the Carling Cup final date has been brought back. We will play them on February 23rd I think.

  20. Tony Starks says:

    … by the way Roy Keane … in my opinion the best captain we’ve had in my time watching United… what a top guy!

  21. aig alex is god says:

    @Costas

    Yes. West Ham game is at 2000GMT on 23rd.

    I feel optimistic about Hargo for next season. He will come back for sure.We need VIdic for the next 3 away games after Pompey.Ok if he misses on Saturday. Hope rios ban is overturned as well. We need a fully fit back 4 for Goodison park

    For once we are optimistic on this one about Hargo :D

  22. PG says:

    I thought Eric Cantona was a better captain. Even SAF wrote about the “Cantona Effect” in his reflections on the 1996 season.

  23. mikekelly12 says:

    Perfectly good explanation from SAF regarding Hargreaves. Interesting he’s included a defender as replacement instead of a midfielder. Maybe his thinking is that our defence which has been non existent all season is in more need of cover instead of covering a fully stocked midfield with someone who hasn’t played in a year and a half…..No brainer.

    Best captain I’ve seen at United was Bryan Robson! Pure quality and such an inspiration around him. My heart genuinely dropped when I looked in my programme and saw his name wasn’t on the team sheet. Generally we wouldn’t win either. It would be interesting to see how many games we failed to win when Robbo wasn’t playing!

  24. JD says:

    What about the stories where Keano made sure everyone got to training on time, or even an hour early otherwise they’d have to face his wrathe, or if someone slouched in practice they would be getting an ear bashing from him, much like if they started screwing around on pitch.
    Would an Evra, great as he is, be that role model? No, as Ince says, people have different personalities, he’ll do the braveheart inspiring music pre match tho!

  25. Costas says:

    @AIG

    True that. I do have faith in him coming back and having a couple of seasons like Ole had in 06-07. After that, it’s anybody’s guess. As far as this season goes, lets focus on keeping our current midfielders fit. And hopefully Ando will be back in contention soon.

    Not too confident about Rio. I saw a dream recently that his ban gotincreased to 5 games. Can’t see that happening either. They will probably keep it to 4 games.

  26. wayne says:

    i thought footballers wives was a bunch of shit untill you start reading about john terry’s life the lead guy who got thrown of the hotel could have been based on him{sorry guys live in canada it played on tv here a few years ago was my guilty pleasure}

  27. Lancaster Red says:

    The only reason Terry will be bothered about the captaincy is because of the commercial opportunities it brings.

    A look at the flyer his agency put out confirms this.

  28. King Eric says:

    Aig – Hi mate. Who do I want to captain England? Honestly. I could not care less , as like you say they will be out in the quarters. Anyone but that cunt. It does not bode well. Terry up to his arm pits in scandal, Fat Frank and Stevie Me possibly having the worst seasons of their career and no decent Keeper.

  29. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    i put bruce robbo and cantona slightly ahead of keane just for the fact that its harder to build a ship than steddy it. . . keane was wonderful at the wheel of the ship and with lots of changing crews but robbo and bruce where on the docks when the plans for the ship to take the premiership was made

  30. trevor says:

    Lads,

    To be honest i dont really mind terry. He is a quality centre half who has got tallent. Off the pitch the media circus regarding his Parents i have felt a little sorry for him.!

    Lets take into contect what he did! He shagged a fit bird behind his wifes back, so thats it! His wife is not my sister! I dont even know his wife! But if she wants a retaliation shag my number will be thrust her way!…A standard affair has nothing to do with your position or captaincy on the pitch!

    For me a Captain of any team has to have the respect of the following in this order of Importance – - – Manager -Team Mates- Fans. The problem with this Terry Affair is he had it with a gf of a team mate. He was shitting on a team mate as well as his wife! For me it is certain he will loose respect from his fellow team mates as well as respect from Capello.

    Taking this respect issue only into concideration i find it very difficult that terry will keep his captaincy. I hate to say it but i honestly would give it to Lampard!.. He gets on with his game and playes relativly well for England & is respected.

    Calm down… WHy not rooney?… Im sorry i dont want Rooney Captain for United or England for a few years. Rooney needs to concentrate on Football alone, His game & what he can do. He doesnt need any extra responsibility aat the moment…. Just concentrate on scoring goals lad!

    Some will argue he will rise to it, What is for certain is how he will handle it is not certain!.. it could go either way……. Now ask yourself this is it worth the fucking risk?

  31. King Eric says:

    Keano was a fantastic captain but for me Robbo all day long.

  32. King Eric says:

    mikekelly12 – Spot on pal. When Bryan didn’t play, United didn’t.

  33. King Eric says:

    trevor – Alright mate. That’s just it though. It isn’t JUST banging a team mates wife his rap sheet is 3 feet long. Pissing on night club floors, banging young lasses in his car, parking his fat Bentley in disabled spots, charging back handers for tours, pimping his Wembley box out for 4 grand a time and not to mention his mercenary like behaviour in the summer althought that doesn’t concern me. By all accounts we ain’t seen nothing yet. There are plenty more scandals to come in this weekends papers.

  34. King Eric says:

    also mate I don’t think Fat Frank is captain material.

  35. trevor says:

    @5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford

    OMG – Robbo and Cantona ahead of keane? Your having a laugh!

    Well in my eyes anyhow!

    For one i dont know how many games Keane grabbed by the scruff of the neck and won. I dont if you would be able to put a figure on the number of games other players gave extra for the fear of Keanes Wrath! I dont know if you could have put a figure on the amount of Games where keane protected our players from the opposition and enabled them to play!

    Keane for me is my altime favourite player. Although sometimes i hear the comments he makes and think he is a right twat! LOL.. I just dont think he ever will be as good a manager due to his temperment. A manager has to treat players differently to get the best out of him, i think keane is a my way or the highway type of guy and it has shown!

  36. mikekelly12 says:

    I’ll never forget Robbo’s captains performance in the 84 Cup winners cup match against a Maradonna inspired Barcelona! 2-0 down from the first leg Robson inspired a 3-0 win, chipping in with 2 goals himself! We carried him from the field on our shoulders. The very essence of a captains performance that night!!!

  37. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    i could see Rooney getting the arm band if Terry doesnt get it
    but I cant see terry not been left with the arm band because of the opitions. also the english media have themselves a scapegoat which they want . I hope England win the world cup and I think terry should get away from football for a bit cause althou they arent the cleanest them selves, but the guy has a mam and dad …he has a wife and kids. and yet he’ll still be the main issue in one of the most important games of the season so far live at 4 on sunday. and the longer he holds on to the arm band and stays to get all this spot light the more of a dickhead this guy is. I dont write Fuck John Terry for fun I dont do it cause chelsea are our closest rivals, its because Im A father Im a football fan and Ive watched 16 year old Ryan Giggs become a role model for people to become not footballers but people in general

  38. mikekelly12 says:

    Trevor

    Don’t think Lampard would be a good replacement, apparantly he was bangin her too, as was Drogba, Gudjohnson and Ashley Cole!!

    The Sun have lined up another EIGHT women whove slept with him in the last 18
    months or so. Enough for a couple of weeks of front pages.
    Including FHMs own HSH, Tanya Robinson

    JT has also been sleeping with current team mate Hilario’s wife (who also has kids). Away from the bedroom, JT also owes Wembley a substantial amount of money for a box he owns and hasn’t paid for, even after he had mates in there racking up a 20k bill at the FA Cup final.

  39. aig alex is god says:

    King Eric

    You really hate England,dont you?. cant be too bothered myself but i feel Capello will stick with JT.As you say Lampard isnt captain material and Rooney wont be burdened with more pressure. Possibly rio, but he too has a bit of history about him when it comes to wrongdoings,same for Stevie me. Honestly i feel a captain should be judged by how he performs on the pitch, not off it but for some people it is more than that.Depends on your opinion.

  40. King Eric says:

    mikekelly12 – Were you there that night in 84 when Robbo was getting lifted off the pitch? Lucky bastard. An iconic picture for me.

  41. mikekelly12 says:

    Trevor

    Did you ever see Robson lead United in his hayday? Not sayink Keane wasn’t a fantastic captain, but if you saw the difference Robson made to United teams when he played you’d probably change your oppinion of it being laughable.

  42. King Eric says:

    aig – I don’t hate them. Just have absolutely no feelings or time for them.

  43. aig alex is god says:

    Never saw Robson or Cantona in action as United skippers or players, saw a bit of Keano so i dont want to make comments on that. However many people love Robson which means he was immense for United and possibly United were a one man team then.

    However i have heard many times that Keanes performance in Turin against Juve is the best ever in a United shirt by any player.

  44. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    Roy Keane – “I`ll fucking see ya out there, I`ll see you on the pitch, cunt”

    Patrick Viera – Silence, not a word.

    Some people pretend to be the big ” I AM” – Viera, Vinnie Jones,John Terry etc

    Roy Keane was and still is the real deal – There was and continues to be

    ONLY ONE KEANO.

    A genuine Man amongst Men.

    One man could stand shoulder to shoulder with Roy and he was a King amongst men – ERIC CANTONA.

  45. trevor says:

    lads,

    Never herd of Lampard banging her too, could be hearsay who knows!

    Lampard not captain material, I was coming fromt he respect side of things. Like it or not, he has done it year in year out in the league for many many years! Mr Consistant.

    Who else in the england team springs to mind? Appart from Rio maybe, but by christ anyone other than rooney!

  46. mikekelly12 says:

    King Eric

    Yes mate, probably one of the greatest games I’ve been too. I must admit though, I didn’t get on the pitch, I was only 12 and it was all I could do to stay on my feet!

  47. Colbert says:

    Is Cole that smart? Methinks he must have a ghostwriter. I keed I keed.

  48. trevor says:

    @aig alex is god

    You must be a few years younger than me. I can remember the tail end of robbo

    Robbo

    Was captain fantastic, Terrific engine & Single Handedly won games. Always scored goals when the chips where down. Was unfortunite with Injuries but most of his time at United the Team wasnt at the same level as the top 2.

    Cantona,

    Cantona just had this auroa about him, He had a fantastic football mentality, Stayed behind after training which the younger lads respected and followed. On the pitch he always could and often did something special. Lead by example, but i beleive didnt say too much and let his actions do the talkings. After all i dont think the mental capability of David Beckham could understand what the fucking seagulls where about!

    & you know all about keane!

  49. READ CAREFULLY WHAT I says:

    @ mikekelly12

    Yeah, Robbo – the only Captain who would shoulder barge you whilst playing with a dislocated shoulder.

  50. trevor says:

    OMG ashley cole

    Poor Mrs Cole,

    By christ she is top of the list of who i want to bang!

  51. mikekelly12 says:

    I agree that a captains job on the field has nothing to do with what happens on the pitch, but being captain carries certain rewards and privaliges. The fact that Terry has acted like such a twat and and has abused those privaliges means that he doesn’t deserve to get those rewards anymore! Plenty of other players on there more deserving of those rewards. And lets face it, does anyone really think our world cup hopes depend on whether Terry is wearing an arm band or not? Is he really going to change the way he plays or acts? Its symbolic and if we’re going to win the world cup it will be done regardless who happens to have the armband on.

    @AIG

    Keanes performance in turin was epic, and similar to Robbo’s in that we were 2-0 down and his goal, as Robson’s was, got us on our way. A lot more was made of Keane’s performance because it was with the knowledge that he’d miss the final. I’d say Robson’s performance was better, but that’s my opinion.

  52. Altonian says:

    I’d never have appointed Terry in the first place, always thought Gerrard should have been chosen, mainly because he can be a lot more influential than Terry.

  53. aig alex is god says:

    @Trevor

    Thanks.

    I am 20. I started watching United in 2000 because back here in India it is all about cricket and i was a big cricket lover.cant believe today i have no intrest in cricket and am a total football freak.i watched lot of Keano and he really was good and inspirational. He possibly was the only captain who could make the opposition players shit in their pants

  54. mikekelly12 says:

    Trevor

    Not sure how true all these stories are but The Sun newspaper is a client of the company my mate works for and apparently they had a memo of stories that would be coming out over the weekend and next week. Apparently Bridges ex mrs has been paid £250,000 to spill the beans! Hope they’re true as the Chelsea dressing room would implode!! Hopefully Cheryl will fuck Ashley off now…..or better still, she should let Bridge bang her live on sky!!

  55. rooninho says:

    i wonder if cole would value the armband more if he had been a long serving captain? to say it is overrated and doesn’t matter is a bit misleading. as many have pointed out, captain marvel was a great inspiration when we weren’t on our perch just yet, and his talent and will drove united’s successes for much of the 80′s.

    agree with cole that on the great teams he was on it made the armband a bit irrelevant. when he was on legendary teams, with the greatest manager and other legendary players around him at united doing doubles and a treble- that great mixture of talent, hard work, and leadership, truly must have felt like there were 11 captains in the dressing room. not hard to understand that.

    but what cole misses are the few times when the right captain makes all the difference. as has been pointed out already, keano vs juve in 99, is the greatest example of what a captain can do to inspire a club. he grabbed that game by the scruff and willed us to the final. also, who can forget his taming of viera in the tunnel as he psychologically intimidated and beat the gooners before the match had even started. brilliant.

    the best captains are like robbo, bruce, and keano, in their prime. a mixture of great leadership and great skill. as much as i love gary nev, he can’t do it consistently on the pitch anymore, and his cheer leading while great to watch for the fans, does little to influence what is happening on the pitch.

    i personally would love to see wayne get the armband. he is right on the verge of becoming the world’s best (he’s there already in my mind- but not necessarily to the global public) and i think it would inspire him to be even better. the important thing is that he truly wants it (for club and country) and the responsibilities that come with it. it could be the thing that places him as the world’s greatest player for many years to come.

  56. Paul Parker says:

    Graham Taylor makes the same point Cole does, and prob from his experience as england manager and the BULLSHIT that comes with it he made the point a little more forcefully…

    He said that something is SERIOUSLY WRONG if the nation is more worried about losing terry as “Captain” then they are about losing him as a “Player”. That maks perfect sense, cos IF ALL ENGLISH HOPES REST ON TERRY BEING CAPTAIN then what kind of half-arsed, wankered, soft-lad, bunch of bollocks outfit is the English Team ? WHO ARE YOU ???

    Your telling me if terry isn’t Captain it all comes crumbling down ? Anybody who eats the shit the MEDIA is shoveling about this needs to see a shrink and/or grow a fucking set. Fucking Ridiculous. TERRY SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF THE CAPTAINCY END OF STORY. If it was Rooney or Rio I’d say the same thing, its common sense, it ain’t rocket Science, fuck standing by him, he fucked up, return him to normal defensive duties, end of fucking story. There are sooo many leaders, like Andy said, so why the fuck is there ALWAYS this CULT OF PERSONALTY surrounding the English Team, its sooo fucking boring, England haven’t won FUCK ALL in YEARS, half the people at games can’t even remember seeing England Lift anything. This sense of self importance is Embarrising. WHO THE FUCK ARE ENGLAND ?? Everybody is suffering from delusions of granduer to the point Players feel under pressure when they play.The English set up is a complete utter farce and the Media is responsible. If this was BRAZIL or ITALY or FRANCE or GERMANY or ARGENTINA the player would be stripped of the Armband but keep his place in the team. Its so simple. What the fuck is wrong with the England team ? Other Countries have dropped star players, France dropped Cantona and Ginola and won the World Cup. but nooo, England treats the national team like a club and wants to make demi-gods out of its Centre Halfs and Midfielders. FUCK OFF. chelsea keeping Terry as captain makes sense, even tho its poor taste, but England keeping him as captain is a fucking joke. Pick a new Captain, give the team new direction after Terry dragged it through the GUTTER.

    Capello was brought in to end the FARCE that is the England National Team. If he “stands by” his england Captain I clearly gave him too much respect when he arrived, or maybe he’s just been in this country too long. If Capello wants RESPECT from his team he should TAKE THE ARMBAND BACK. What is Capello saying if he supports Terry as Captain ? If Terrys injured England are DOOMED ? Fuck Off Capello. Other Countries who actually WIN THINGS would have no problems in this situation. They’d treat the Captaincy like it MEANT SOMETHING and they’d STRIP it from whoever DEVALUED IT. Capello was brought in to IMPROVE the English set up with his experience – and he’s done that so far – I hope he continues and shows everybody in this Country how you handle these situations at the National Level. Whether its a Missed drugs test, an Affair, an Assault case… CHOSE A NEW CAPTAIN. Like Cole said, there are supposed to be MANY LEADERS, backing terry removes responsiblity from other players. Every player should be PREPARED to take the Armband. SO STRIP TERRY OF THE CAPTAINCY FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATIONAL GAME !!!!

    …..Ok, im finished ranting, lol, this topic is unnecessarily drawn out.
    How can Terry lead his Country out ? What kind of Country is this ?
    Its a FUCKING JOKE, thats what.

  57. Paul Parker says:

    In case a vital point is lost in the rant, im saying that CLUB CAPTAINCY and NATIONAL TEAM CAPTAINCY are two separate issues.

    I understand Terry being kept on as Chelsea Captain, even though it doesn’t send the best message to Young Fans of the game. I totally understand that decision at Club level. For example, I’d expect Rooney to be backed by Manchester United no matter what he does…

    But at NATIONAL LEVEL ??? Its completely different, Terry isn’t “signed” to England, he’s “Representing” England. He was made Captain after Beckham showed class and Resigned. Beckham didn’t treat the Captaincy like it was Club Level, he showed it respect by stepping down. Terry should Step the FUCK Down and let one of the MANY other potential Captains in the Squad step up. SHOW SOME FUCKING CLASS YOU CUNT.

    ENGLAND ISN’T CHELSEA.

    hahaha there I go ranting again.

  58. arsene wenger says:

    i heard that J-bnp-T owes a lot of gamblin debts and also has been betting big on chelsea games and it will be exposed soon possibly on sunday morning

  59. rooninho says:

    @paul parker

    capello has an alleged “zero tolerance” policy. if he is truly the hard man that he makes himself out to be, the only thing for him to do is to not only strip him of the armband but boot him off the squad. keeping him as captain with this zero tolerance thing would make capello seem weak and less credible. the players would then know they could get away anything as long as they were big enough stars. demoting terry could really unify the england dressing room by showing that one man isn’t above the whole team and lets all players know that no one’s place in the team not even the captain’s is assured. they will see that only merit on and off the pitch will get you into the squad. not a bad thing, eh?

    for all these pundits saying that his personal failures shouldn’t dictate his england standing and that this happens all the time- i wonder if they would be saying this if terry had been shagging their girl (or ex-girl) or even daughter, got them pregnant and had the abortion covered up?

  60. mikekelly12 says:

    Paul Parker

    Loved your rant mate and agree with everything you said. I mentioned the same points (slightly shorter) in a previous post. If England are to win the World Cup it will be done regardless of who wears the arm band!

    Arsen Wenger

    Good to see you back… I think there are a lot of Terry stories about to explode!

  61. trevor says:

    lads,

    Before this scandle Terry had 100% respect and backing from his team mates?

    How much respect and backing does he have now? … Say it is 90%

    That 10% could be the diffrerence to winning the world cup or not!

    Why not do everyone a favour and take the spot light off terry and just let him concentrate on playing football & let the rest of the players concentrate on playing football playing with a captain they all respect and will listen too!

  62. trevor says:

    Lads,

    The penny has just dropped! This is going to be fucking great for Uniteds Chances of wining the league!

    i am hoping that this effects terrys performance & the rest of the players!

    Id pay her 250k if i had it to announce during chelsea training that she had HIV or something, then count the numbers who rush to their car heading for the std clinic!

    Wond just be cole getting caught doing 104 in a 50! hahaha

    Roll on the News of the Screws thats all i can say!!! ha fucking ha! Rent boy Chelsky Scum!

  63. trevor says:

    LOL.

    Lads just read a news atrical that Ancelotti has commented that “JT is in Fantastic Condition!!”

    Id fucking say, Chelsea Training, Keeping the Wife Happy between the sheets & Screwing Wayne Bridges Nymph..

    Id say he is in great shape!! ha bloody ha!

  64. arsene wenger says:

    wasnt there a story over the summer about a model with HIV who had affairs with 5 london based footballers and everyone just jumped on that danielle lloyd, could this be it?

  65. arsene wenger says:

    mikekelly how you doing mate, thank god for john terry givin the press something to write about,made my week a lot easier!

  66. mikekelly12 says:

    Sky sports say terry has been dropped as captain!

  67. Sanj says:

    TERRY DROPPED AS CAPTAIN

  68. mikekelly12 says:

    Arsene Wenger

    I bet it has….lets be honest, the guy deseves all he gets! I wonder what “Fun Boy” Cundy makes of his mates sacking as Captain!

  69. arsene wenger says:

    Give it to dave James (if he is number 1)

  70. The Edge says:

    arsene wenger

    Yep, you couldve had it worse this week but is there anything better than Tiny Tears getting slated. I can only think of a United counter-attack;)

  71. Paul Parker says:

    WELL DONE CAPELLO

  72. mikekelly12 says:

    Right….appoint a new captain and lets all get on with our lives!!

  73. arsene wenger says:

    lol The Edge , its a blur to me , but its good to see some justice against twats , just a shame that gerrards court case dont start next week instead of way before the day capello did the right thing

  74. Paul Parker says:

    Cheers MikeKelly12, I felt better after that rant lol.

    Oi Rooninho, looks like Capello really doesn’t fuck about after all, lol.

    Its good to see Capello is doing what the England Team needs him to do, fuck this cult of personality business, its unbecoming of 11 Men representing their country. Well Done Capello…

    Oh, and obviously its GREAT news for United ahead of Arsenal v Chelsea.

    HAHAHAHA

    TEAM BRIDGE !!!! TEAM BRIDGE !!!!!

  75. rooninho says:

    @paul parker

    capello has gone way up in my estimation! no fucking about indeed!

    what are the betting odds on rooney getting the armband now?

  76. mikekelly12 says:

    12 minutes it took for Capello to tell Terry what he thought of him!! Well done Fabio.

  77. Colbert says:

    Hahaha! This is so fucking funny!

    What goes around comes around, eh, John? After all the badmouthing of Rio and talking yourself up prior to Capello making him captain this is no less than he deserves. What was it he said? “If you don’t want someone who gives his all to the cause and who bleeds for the team, then don’t pick me”, thereby indirectly critisizing Rio and making it sound like he was the only one with those qualities. Something along those lines anyway. Complete and utter cunt of a man. He is going to whinge his head off now.

  78. Sanj says:

    Just 12 minutes to tell Terry to f*ck off… I can see it now…

    “Terry, you’re out. Arrivederci.”

  79. mikekelly12 says:

    Apparently she isn’t selling her story now and everyones saying “Fair play, someone not chasing money but has a bit of respect” Is it not obvious that she’s just been offered more by Terry, or Chelsea…..or actually, Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Cole and Essien have probably all clubbed together to pay her off!!

  80. trevor says:

    Lads,

    I think the right decision is made but i do feel we need the cunt for the world cup!

    Terry and Rio are awsome together and there isnt anyone else who comes close!

    Upson, Leschit (lescott), Brown = sorry but not close!

  81. trevor says:

    If she isnt selling her story she must be selling her flaps!

  82. mikekelly12 says:

    Trevor

    She gives them away free!!

  83. mikekelly12 says:

    GHTT

    I think he’ll change it to a 442 and put Valencia and Berba in.

  84. trevor says:

    Ever wonder why terry has no money! hahaha

    Why hasnt he paid his wembley bill?? Why is he doing secret paid tours of chelsea!!

    I m only joking she gives them away for free!…………..just have to make a quick phone call!

    118118 – Got your number
    118247 – Have you got her number?

    Shit. Anyone got her number??

    I dont give a fuck about bridge or terry but i will have a peice of that!

  85. trevor says:

    the above to mike kelly!

  86. Costas says:

    Viva John Terry! I think Gerrard will probably get the nod now. In my opinion, and at least for the World Cup, the armband should go to Rio.

    Anyway, onto Saturday. Here’s the line up I predict:

    VDS-Brown,Vidic,Evans,Evra-Valencia,Carrick,Fletcher,Nani-Rooney, Berba

    Rafa,Scholes and Giggs to be rested for Villa.

  87. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    @mike kelly i think your right and vidic might be back,
    fabio capello said that when he picked terry as his captain he picked a vise captain and a 3rd choice captain and that will not change, does that mean Rio is the England captain for the world cup

  88. John Ferry says:

    It doesn’t matter if terry is captain or not-the damage has been done. I’ve been saying for months it was only a matter of time before terry’s on-and-off the pitch antics took its toll. I never thought that his stupidity would endanger chelski’s chances of giving United stronger competition.

    Viva terry
    Viva terry
    Could have won the World Cup
    But he F-ed up
    Viva terry

    I for one am starting to warm up to terry. He gifted us the Champions League, and now quite possibly another EPL title. Isn’t it time we signed him. HaHaHa !!!!

  89. Paul Parker says:

    ok, off topic for a min, but have you seen the Max Clifford clip ?

    she’s standing there next to him while he’s reading a statement, and she just looks like a right old slapper, hahahaha. I can see Chelsea bottling it on Sunday, I think Arsenal have enough to trouble them and nick points. The best part is if Everton nick points or even beat Liverpool on Saturday, Chelsea have got to travel up there and face them. There is no way Chelsea are taking 6 points in those 2 matches. No fucking way.

    they were POOR against Burnley and POOR against Hull. I can’t imagine them turning it around by Sunday. Being dropped as Captain won’t help either. They’ll drop Points.

    AS LONG AS WE BEAT POMPEY AND VILLA WE’LL STAY TOP.

    OH, AND RIO IS GONNA BE CAPTAIN OF ENGLAND AGAIN.

    FA DON’T BAN HIM AGAIN YOU TWO FACED CUNTS !!!!

  90. Costas says:

    @GHTT

    I like the username, but I think that for today you should switch back to Gotta hate. It’s his day!

    Which game will you attend? The one against Fulham?

  91. mikekelly12 says:

    GHTT

    It could either mean Rio will be captain OR his vice captain will remain vice captain and his 3rd choice will remain 3rd choice….I personally think he will go with Rio!

    Trevor

    If you phone the Stamford Bridge switch board they’ll give you her number. In fact they’ll probably send a car round for you.

  92. Kal says:

    HAHAHA…Rio’s England Captain.
    Would love to see the faces of those idiots at the FA!!!

  93. mikekelly12 says:

    Press association are now saying Rio will be captain! Pound to a piece of shit they remove the extra match ban on his appeal!!! Might even overturn his other two!!

  94. Macheda IS GOD says:

    Give it to wayne and hell be a hell of a Player.(even more)

  95. Fred says:

    Well done, Rio! Never should have lost out to that scumbag Terry in the first place. Let that be a lesson to you, Capello.

  96. 5 Weeks Till Emily Best Gets To Old Trafford says:

    mark perryman is a twat
    england captains arent role models and 50% of all marrages end in divorse
    so terry isnt on his own
    what a twat
    costas just making dinner but i think emily might get a new terry chant out

  97. Fred says:

    @MikeKelly12: Hahaha! I hope so, the ABUs would be outraged. :-D

  98. Fred says:

    In fact if you type “rio ferdinand” into Google you can watch the ABU “tweets” roll in by the second! Hilarious!

  99. Fze123 says:

    Agree with Cole here. Keano and Robbo were absolutely magnificent; leaders, role models, fighters and incredible figures at Utd. Along with Robbo they are one of the best captains the world has ever seen. They played because to do two things; motivate the team and simply win.

    Great news about Terry being no longer captain. It just had to happen, any decent and wise manager would do the same. Good decision by Capello, however I am still waiting for him to apologise for the “United’s war machine is running out of steam” bullshit. Just because Fergie rightly said that the national team will not win the WC he decided to have a dig at us. He also said an English team will reach the final. It probably means he thinks either the rentboys or the arse will reach the final. Which is hilariously stupid, even we have a better chance.

    I hope this news affects Chelsea’s performance against arsenal, hopefully it will cast a cold atmosphere in the dressing room. Poor Terry, he’s probably in tears right this moment. However, this will not feel as bad as he felt when he missed that penalty in….Need I say more.

  100. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    He’s Mr Chelsea and captain of his land
    But Fabio’s gonna take away his armband
    ‘Cos he had dirty sex with Wayne Bridge’s ex
    He cheated, he cheated

    He used to meet her at the Hilton Hotel
    While Wayne was playing one-twos wth Darius Vassell
    He cheated, he cheated

    He cheated (cheated), cheated (cheated)
    The gagging order’s been deleted

    He’ll claim he’s persecuted, misunderstood
    Go share your sob stroies with Tiger Woods
    You cheated

  101. mikekelly12 says:

    Fze123

    The only reason Terry will be in tears is because he’s gonna have to get rid of all his knock off “John Terry England Captain” Merchandise he was gonna get his old fella to knock out at the world cup!!!

  102. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    sky sports news says “the meeting lasted 12 minutes the john terry had to be smuggled quickly out of wembley stadium”
    Thats cause he owes wembley a shit load of money

  103. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    Rio being made Captain has made my day. I couldn’t give a toss about ingurland, if they do well I suppose I’m happy cos my mates are. Now Rio has been made Captain despite not playing for months is fantastic, he basically got a promotion a concept a bit difficult to grasp for most the people out there. If Ingurland win the World Cup with Rooney scoring a hat trick does that then meand United are World Champions 3 times.

    @mikekelly 12 – You’re probably right, now Rio is captain that extra game ban will be overturned, not because its the right thing to do its because the new Ingurland Captain needs games to be fit and in form for the World Cup.

  104. Kings says:

    At last someone has the balls to put that fucking cunt in his place, although fuck knows why he made him captain in the first place. Still hearing ‘British Bulldog and true leader’ comments – what the fuck! Bet Jason Cundy must be boiling at hearing that news.

  105. scholeslovechild says:

    Maybe Don Fab will swap Terry for another player and leave the vice and third choice in place.I agree with one of the earlier posts Rooney would be a great choice.Wayne thrives under responsibility you can see that.Rooney for cpt!

    Thanks for a great friday John :-)

  106. McQueen says:

    This is great news! I was hoping Mr Capello had the balls to drop that sack of shit! And speaking of good captains I think Rio is actually a very good one – dominant, vocal and commanding.

    P.s. what is up with the number of bullshit comments on this thread? You really do have to trawl through ten tonnes of shit to actually read some decent comments related to the topic

  107. McQueen says:

    My above comment is a little harsh, on reflection, and is basically just directed at Trevor, who seems to be high on something and filling up half this thread with bollocks!

    Most of the posters on this site seem very knowledgable and passionate and i thoroughly enjoy reading your comments on a regular basis. Thankyou!

  108. McQueen says:

    @ Trevor – I think I was overreacting a little so sorry for that but you do have a LOT of posts on this thread that are not relating to the article, I was already in a bit of a bad mood so I feel I took it out on you a bit sorry!

    (I am also well aware of the irony that I now have three posts myself, only one of which is loosely related to the topic, so apologies for that!)

  109. rooney the new king says:

    did anyone read the hilerious piece done by goerge graham, I am not being funny how can he sit there and say arsenal can finish above united and chelsea will win the league. did he see united pick apart arsenal, he should worry arsenal can hold onto third spot. chelsea should be worried of trying to hold onto second place let alone thinking they will win the league add the age the depth and their captains mental state, and if united keep up their form I think united will power their way to the title.

  110. Toms says:

    Keane and gerrard are the only ones I’ve seen teams just miss characterwise when they were not on the field. Gerrard because he singlehandedly won liverpool those trophies. Keane because.. cmon the 4-2 arsenal game back in 05/06?. Guts blood and steel to drive a team that was lacking “football characters.”

  111. rooney the new king says:

    Toms – the 4 2 win was actually the 04/05 season, the result at arsenal in the 05/06 season finished 0 0

  112. King Eric says:

    McQueen – ha ha quality pal. Raging at people then apologising! Eh eh calm down la.

    Priceless that Rio is captain. As people have said the abu’s will be fuming.

  113. rooney the new king says:

    King Eric – what did you think of goerge grahams hilerious piece that he thinks arsenal can finish above united and he still thinks chelsea will win the league, did he see arsenal get owned by being outfootballed. I have always said this when going toe to toe with united in a title race this close its like trying to beat mohamad ALI in a long boxing match or trying to outbox ALI there is only one winner. and what is up with peoples retarded pridictions that they always tip chelsea to win the league when the days of 2006 are well and truly over. its 2010 people not 2006 keep up with the times its like tiping liverpool to win the league when the 80s are over.

  114. King Eric says:

    rtnk – Yeah I did hear his comments. Similarly Paul Walsh and someone else who I forget were saying on Skysports on Wednesday that the Rentboys will be too strong. What the fuck? This is after watching their performances against Hull and Burnley. I have been saying all season they are poor. No width, no pace, no plan b and fuck all passion and determination. As per usual they will bottle it. I really do expect them to drop points all over the place. They are looking knackered. They have fluked their way through the season with inept refereeing and teams bending over for them. If they faced the sort of performances United do week in week out they would be fucked. I said before the draw at Hull they would drop points at the KC, I said it on here numerous times. All these scandals are really gonna derail their season.

    As Fergie said yesterday we can “kick on” now and I am fully confident on recent displays added players coming back we can extend our run in the league.

  115. King Eric says:

    Also like you said why do they get tipped every season? They have added fuck all aside from Jerkoff who has played just SIX games and Turnbull and Sturridge. How is that gonna help them prise the trophy away from Old Trafford which has been there since mid 07?

  116. rooney the new king says:

    King Eric – if you are gonna comment further on this page, what I find really frustrating is the pundits cant retrack their statements they have made such idiots of themselves all season. To be fair I was worried at the start of the season so I am not gonna totaly throw stones at glass houses. But I still had hope our rivals were so mediocre and so bad I held on to those hopes our experience would win the day so that may come true. lets not get to carried away uniteds only weakness is our lack of depth upfront.

    - lets be frank these pundits are such ronaldo lovers that they continue to down united because we lost ronaldo we have a phew new stars now the roonster and micheal jackson back from the dead. I wonder where brett has gone since the roonster has made ronaldo look shit not heard from him much LOL jk ronaldo was a good player, I will still say he was good for 2 years last year was ronaldos worst year for many reasons many know my reasons. does anyone else think we were carrying ronaldo last year.

    you are kidding me even after these results they still are backing chelsea. so chelsea are unstoppable and europes greatest for scoring some typical boring xhelsea goals against arsenal, yet united a side who battered arsenal britans greatest ever footballing side was punked and outfootballed double standards me thinks.

  117. King Eric says:

    great post. “Michael Jackson back from the dead and the roonster”. Quality.

    I also wonder where “Justice for Heysel” has gone. A couple of us were arguing with him after he said there is no way Rooney is world class. Just prior to his hat trick at Pompey away!

  118. King Eric says:

    Agree about Ronnie. Last season to be fair became an embarrasment with his constant pouting, histrionics and petulance.

  119. mufcdevils says:

    only if keane was still young

  120. rooney the new king says:

    King Eric – I have not long been on this site but who is Justice for Heysel is that brett you mean. I have been tempted to change my username to micheal jackson back from the dead but I will keep with RTNK because its so damn true.

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