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47 Comments

  1. Indian Devil says:

    I am not in England but great prize none the less.. A comfortable win please.

  2. Jeet says:

    Hello all…saw some great debate on the previous post about SAF’s successor. Sorry for being late to the party, and for posting it on this thread, but my thoughts:
    1. Totally agree with NRD and Stateside, and like i’ve been saying for a long time, its going to be a business decision, and one that has to ensue short term trophy wins.
    2. I was quite pro-Mourinho at one point. But after this season’s farcical shenanigans, no – I don’t want that man near our club. Anderson flopping on the ground like a fish, waving his big bum like a writhing tent and tearing his braids apart because some small time nancy pinched his cellulite ridden thighs – no, that is not a sight that I want to see at Old Trafford. And of course, he has a pathetic track record of bringing young talent through.
    3. I think 5 years will be too early for Ole, unless he performs some miracles. Don’t know much about Blanc TBH. And for some reason, I just don’t like the idea of Pep Guardiola. Somehow I feel he just got lucky in getting the fantastic triumvirate of Messi, Xavi and Iniesta all at the same time. If he didn’t, would he have the smarts too do it some other way? What’s Barca’s plan B (they hardly need a plan B, but we aren’t them, you know)?
    4. I quite like the idea of Ancelotti to be honest. Class act, proven winner at the highest level and can manage the big names. Who else? Van Gaal – probably too old. Probably Hiddink. Some Young Turk like Villas Boas? Then might as well go for Ole, IMO. Very few names, and it can all change dramatically in a few years time.
    5. Last but not the least, I do hope we dont get a brit. Not because I’ve anything against them, but simply because the english game has fallen behind technically, and I cant think of a single english manager competent enought to take over the reigns.

  3. t4m says:

    Jeet,I remember myself wanting Capello for the job at some point.To be honest,he’s a fantastic manager but the media has made him look stupid

  4. Gorse Hill Red says:

    Already going to the match, just hoping I won’t be walking out in the same mood as the last home game.

  5. t4m says:

    Jeet,Time will tell.

  6. kanchelskis says:

    It’s horrible to have to think about Fergie’s successor, because whoever it is, it’s going to be someone a whole lot worse than Fergie.

    I think the worse thing we could do is bring Ole back too early. It’s great knowing he’s out there – almost like a player we’ve sold with a buy-back clause. He loves United, and when we want him I think we can assume he’ll drop anything to come to us.

    He needs to

    a) stay at Molde for another season and even beyond that. The last thing we want is a manager with no experience of continuity and empire building

    b) manages omewhere else in England first. He needs to adapt to the league in which he’s going to manage us.

    c) manage a decent-sized club in Europe. One of the ‘second tier’ European teams – Valencia, Atletico, Roma, Juve, Porto, Benfica etc

    All of the above could take up to 10 years. But that’s fine. Combine that extensive experience with the obvious deep understanding he has for the game (which Fergie has spoken of), and he will walk into the OT dugout.

    But not as Fergie’s successor.

  7. Jeet says:

    Well, truth be told, he does look a tad stupid…anybody would with the redoubtale JT as captain :)

  8. CedarsDevil says:

    Jeet

    Morning my friend… Nice post, however when you say Brit you also include Scots and the rest. I am all against an English manager but not against a Scot (If the right one was available of course)

    Our success, history and legacy has been built by 2 great Scots in Sir Matt and Sir Alex….

    Still Ole for me if I was the one making the decision

  9. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    Hi buddy… Slightly disagree my friend… Remember that Fergie built his experience AT United, he had a great spell at Aberdeen and did wonders at a tiny club and broke the dominance of the Old Firm sort of what Ole has just done. I agree he needs a few more years at Molde but I would not think he needs to manage in England or anywhere else in order to be able to manage United…

    Tactical awareness, charisma and personality is whats needed and Ole has them all in abundance

  10. Jeet says:

    @Kanchelskis: Agreed about bringing back Ole too soon. Would be doing a disservice to the man. I just hope that the replacement, when it needs to happen, is done quietly with a lot of class. Ideal situation would be one before the last game of the season (when we have already won everything, well, almost everything, for the year), United come out with the announcement “SAF is retiting. XYZ is taking over.”. No media circus, no speculation, no gossip, none of every small time hustler on the make announcing to the world about how they wanked off to George Best as prepubertal slips of boys, and how its always “been their dream” to manage United. SAF deserves the classiest sendoff, but in these tabloid ridden days, that’s probably too much to expect.

  11. CedarsDevil says:

    People quickly forget that it took Sir Alex 5 years to get going FIVE years….. Yes I know times have changed and football owners and even fans are far less patient or tolerant… BUT I would hate for us to do a quick fix when the great man calls it a day….. I understand the likes of Ancelotti being mentioned but that will be a quick fix. We may never ever have a manager that will last as long as Sir Alex or Sir Matt, but never say never eh? Ole would stick around for many years and I am sure do an excellent job on all fronts

  12. Jeet says:

    @Cedars: Hola, my friend! Sorry, I keep getting confused between what’s Brit and what’s English. I think one includes Scots and Irish (Welsh too?), but keep forgetting which is which! That said, I can’t think of a single Scotsman/Irishman who could be good enough, either. Not saying that they don’t exist – it’s probably a statement of my ignorance.
    Regarding bringing back Ole back too soon – well, I think the pressures are very different now from what they were in 86. When SAF came in, I think there was a common understanding that a lot of groundwork had to be laid for long term success. The buy-in was there, the owners were different, and we lived in more patient times. The club is a different beast in many ways now, and football itself is becoming more commercially cut-throat – like it or not, the money machines gotta keep spinning. My thing is the club gotta decide one way or the other. Either go for proven big name a la Ancelotti etc. Else stay loyal to roots and stick to the tradition of bringing in a new long term nanager. If we go for the latter Ole surely has to be a top contender. However, I do believe it more likely that the club will play it safe, and go for the first option, particularly if the debt is still around.

  13. CedarsDevil says:

    Jeet

    Yes the Welsh are also Brits, not sure they like to be though! hahaha

    Who is to decide when is soon enough my friend? If you have what it takes then you have what it takes!

    I have never ever considered any ex United player to replace Sir Alex and with that I mean the likes of Keane, Robbo, Bruce etc…Never felt right. With Ole though it just does feels right. He did a fantastic job managing the reserves and now he has done wonders at Molde……..Of course I would not want him tomorrow but eventually YES. Just makes perfect sense to me and I am not that good usually in getting my exact point across!

  14. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Wow! Just read the blockbuster of a post from NRD. Absolutely brilliant stuff. It is a point that I’ve heard argued countless times before by Stateside also. I do agree that the owners will want someone who guarantees them short-term success.

    Another interesting point made by YorYor yesterday was one I found intriguing and funny. Have someone else take over from Sir Alex and he doesn’t do well immediately. There is small downfall in our fortunes. In steps Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as a Knight in Shining Armor to lead us from the darkness into the light. Now, that would be a fucking fairy tale.

    :D

  15. kanchelskis says:

    Interesting differences of opinion here re. Ole and Fergie’s successor.

    I suppose much of what happens depends on who owns the club at the time. Much as we may lament the financial burden the Glazers have brought with them, there lack of interference in football matters has always been ideal. But then they have never had to make those decisions that represent the ultimate test of an owner – those to do with the manager.

    When they look around them and see Henry losing patience with Hodgson, Mansour losing patience with Hughes, Abramovich losing patience with anyone under the sun, all in timeframes shorter than two years, you have to worry about how much tolerance they’ll have of a new manager bedding in and getting their feet under the table.

    I’d hate for us to become one of these soap opera clubs where every summer you’re not just wondering who’ll be playing for you next season, but who your bloody manager is. As someone who’s turning 25 in December, it’s utterly inconceivable – there hasn’t been a managerial change at United in my lifetime!

  16. CedarsDevil says:

    Jeet

    A bit of a share for you my friend….. The term Brit is used for those you come from Great Britain which includes England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. From my own experience, its usually the English living abroad that say they are a Brit when you ask where they are from. The rest tend to just mention their actual country. I cannot ever recall meeting a Scot or an Irish man that said they were a Brit

  17. Jeet says:

    @cedars: I know – if Ole is ready, he is ready. Who knows – maybe if you were to pitchfork him into the chair tomorrow, he would take over like we wouldn’t even notice the difference. Likewise, there’s no fucking guarantee that Any Big Name (ABN – trademark that, will you!) will get us continuous flow of silverware.
    Reminds me of a time when I was heading a start-up market research business. Our prices were lower, our methodology was better, and we would literally bend over backwards and kiss the client’s ass to get his business, but no, the business would still go to the big boys or ABNs. The feedback was, “Look boys, we appreciate your efforts, but it’s about risk. In this business anybody can fuck up, but if the project bombs, I can tell my boss that I gave the job to the best in the world (ABN), and they fucked up. Whereas if you guys fuck up, it’s my neck on the line.” So, like Stateside Aussie (another cynical sonovabitch, if he doesnt mind me calling him that!), I see the suits adopting the same risk-averse line. Makes me sick at times, but there it is…

  18. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    You make an excellent point my friend…. None of us can imagine United without Sir Alex.

    I on the other hand had to endure having different bosses such as Docherty, Sexton and Big Ron (Who was the worse in my opinion even though Docherty got us relegated)

    We can only pray that who ever comes in will have the club’s best interest at heart and not his own pocket…. Ole would do just that

  19. Jeet says:

    Thanks, Cedars! I don’t want a bunch of angre Irishmen on my tail because I offended them by calling them English! Brit = generic. English = England only. There – that’s not so hard!

  20. kanchelskis says:

    @CedarsDevil

    Yep, good point re United’s best interest. You just know that Ole would really, really care.

    Let’s not forget also that Giggsy’s only a year younger than Ole, and GNev two years younger. Can you imagine a United 4/5 years in the future, with Ole as manager and Giggsy and Nev as his assistants?

    *gets boner*

  21. CedarsDevil says:

    ABN – Trade marked to Jeet…. Its official :-)

  22. Jeet says:

    Anyway – as T4M said, time will tell! Me down with the flu, off for a nap. Happy RoM-ing, and hope we have a right RED match tomorrow. Kisses!

  23. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    Boner indeed! hahaha

    Of course our friends NRD & Stateside make excellent points about how things may turn out because of the ‘suits’…. However as fans we have our opinion and will share it…. Will mean nothing eventually

  24. CedarsDevil says:

    Jeet

    You’re welcome…… Never dare ask a Scot if he is English, will never get you a smiling face!

  25. CedarsDevil says:

    As fans we dream, dreams may not always come true….. Anyone trying to convince me that Ole is not the perfect choice will fail…. Anyone telling that it may not happen I may believe

  26. Samuel - united WE stand says:

    morrison ain’t training with the squad? what has he done now?

  27. Samuel - united WE stand says:

    Do some people realise its mostly guys on here? is this where you really wanna be showing that side of you, amongst men? goodness lol.

  28. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    I think I have an idea who you are referring to lol Mind you a lot of posters have often expressed various man crushes hahaha, me included recently on RVP!

    We do have occasional females posting here and I miss them…. soren, Red Gem, portugueseprincess just to name a few

  29. dazbomber says:

    They have had enough time to think about it, it is going to be the hardest act to follow. The person will have to have a great belief in his self,and his ability . I think it will be Mourinho if that is a good thing I am not sure, but I think it will be him

  30. kiccha says:

    ole has a great sense of things and he knows what he is doing . . example . . he did not accept the molde offer as soon as it came he stayed our reserves’ manager one more year and went when he thought he was ready . . look what he has done now !!
    he ll take over the helm at united when he feels he is ready . . and i won’t be worried abt sir alex’s successor because he ll have his say on who should replace him. . so future is in safe hands if you ask me. . .
    even if ole comes a year early than required ,he ll have sir alex around to help him out . .
    and yeah in 4-5 years he ll be more than enough experience to take over imo . . .

  31. CedarsDevil says:

    dazbomber

    I hope Mourinho never gets anywhere near OT, it will be a disaster if he does.

    kiccha

    Well said!

  32. GAZ says:

    Any one for David Moyes? he has that scottish fire like Fergie commands his dressing room, works on a shoe string budget, bought pretty well with what he has he is young. inexperianced on the european stage but that will come over a bit of time. but i think he is worth mentioning. Martin O’Neil could also be an outsider!

  33. RedHound says:

    Solksjaer taking over from SAF so soon in his managerial career would be like the King of a powerful monarchy in Europe dying at a time when various other superpowers in Europe are looking to capitalize on his passing, and then his 18 year old son taking over from him. Granted, this boy king may have been trained in the ways of kingship, excelled at some tests, executed well the responsibilities assigned him etc, but unless he has some very good regents, its going to take a considerable period of time for him to fully command the kingdom and take it forward. I’d like to think that in the inevitable event of Ferguson retiring due to ill health(he’s always said its his health that would make him retire), whoever succeeds him would not have the autocratic mentality of a dictator and thus would welcome Fergie hovering over him for his first seasons at least. It would also be highly beneficial for the club stalwarts like Neville, Scholes, Beckham(who recently has expressed interest in being a director of some capacity at United) and any others who are United through and through, to assist in the transitional process. It shouldnt all be on one man’s shoulders, it should be a collective effort.

  34. dazbomber says:

    CedarsDevil- The scary thing is when SAF was thinking of retiring a few years ago they contacted Ericsson .

  35. dazbomber says:

    CedarsDevil- The scary thing is when SAF was thinking of retiring a few years ago they contacted Ericsson .

  36. GAZ says:

    @dazbomber i just shuddered at the taught of proffeser weetos in the OT throne!!thanks be to jesus that didnt happen prob Kenyons work that

  37. dazbomber says:

    Double bubble

  38. CedarsDevil says:

    dazbomber

    Ya I remember that….. DAMN!

  39. prasan_UTDfan4life says:

    Some interesting points being made regarding SAF’s successor, but for the moment let’s enjoy the great man chewing his gum in the dugout and getting us trophy after trophy! :) I think this club has always evolved and adapted, and even if a tenure like Sir Alex won’t ever be repeated, I won’t mind Ole take up the job in a few years time. I also think Sir Alex and Sir Bobby would never let the successor compromise on the traditions of this great club and both of them would have a major say in who comes in, as David Gill had pointed out sometime back. Given Ole gains valuable experience in Europe and rakes in some more silverware, he would be a brilliant candidate to look upon as the great man’s heir!

    Speaking of Ole, just bumped into a good old memory which still gives me goosebumps:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYiO7PoCZyY&feature=fvwrel

  40. RedHound says:

    Solksjaer taking over from SAF so soon in his managerial career would be like the King of a powerful monarchy in Europe dying at a time when various other superpowers in Europe are looking to capitalize on his passing, and then his 18 year old son taking over from him. Granted, this boy king may have been trained in the ways of kingship, excelled at some tests, executed well the responsibilities assigned him etc, but unless he has some very good regents, its going to take a considerable period of time for him to fully command the kingdom and take it forward. I’d like to think that in the inevitable event of Ferguson retiring due to ill health(he’s always said its his health that would make him retire), whoever succeeds him would not have the autocratic mentality of a dictator and thus would welcome Fergie hovering over him for his first seasons at least. It would also be highly beneficial for the club stalwarts like Neville, Scholes, Beckham(who recently has expressed interest in being a director of some capacity at United) and any others who are United through and through, to assist in the transitional process. It shouldnt all be on one man’s shoulders, it should be a collective effort.

    PS- Martin Edwards says he’s sure there will be a statue of Fergie at OT in the future. If i was the designer i’d fashion something like that vatican masterpiece that has all those statues around it. While the practicability and logistics involved would be another matter entirely, It’d be great to have the club’s legends on top of the stadium itself.

  41. RedHound says:

    PS- Martin Edwards says he’s sure there will be a statue of Fergie at OT in the future. If i was the designer i’d fashion something like that vatican masterpiece that has all those statues around it. While the practicability and logistics involved would be another matter entirely, It’d be great to have the club’s legends on top of the stadium itself.

  42. WillieRedNut says:

    There’s that echo again?

  43. RedHound says:

    turns out if you click “submit” twice, it does indeed submit twice

  44. Zibbie says:

    Wonderful discussion.

  45. WillieRedNut says:

    Click it once then?

  46. RedHound says:

    What actually happened was that i submitted, my comment didnt show up, so i resubmitted, with an addition and i clicked twice

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