Ahead of United’s game against Liverpool at the weekend, Kenny Dalglish has created even more ill-feeling by claiming that Luis Suarez, who was found guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra, shouldn’t have been banned.
“We don’t think he should ever have been away but we are delighted to get him back,” he said. “For me, Luis Suarez doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone at Liverpool FC.”
Ahead of the game at Anfield, Dalglish called for the players and fans to act in a “responsible” way. Evra was booed for 90 minutes by the home crowd and Dalglish incredibly referred to this as “friendly banter” after the full time whistle. Just like Suarez had used some friendly racism a few weeks before, I suppose.
It seems Dalglish’s fleeting moment of responsibility is well and truly out of the window though, with him now ludicrously claiming that the FA were wrong to ban Suarez.
There’s no denying that Dalglish heavily contributed to the rise of Liverpool Football Club. It is brilliant to watch him now contribute to their demise, dragging their name through the mud whenever a camera is put in front of him. I wonder what Shankly would think of them now…
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Cunt?
Cunt?
He has nothing to prove to LFC because he already fits in, he’s a racist and a cunt!
Dalglish and his club (same goes for Chelsea) too are proving to be a serial embarrassment for football in general!
Wow! Kenny really is at the right club, isn’t he?
‘We don’t think he should ever have been away’ – quite right! because we all know that right and wrong can only ever be judged in an absolute sense by how something effects Liverpool Football Club and the sanctimonious lemmings that follow it. Has anyone even remotely associated with this pathetic, self-obsessed cluster-fuck of a club ever admitted to being in the wrong for anything?
Honestly, someone could produce video evidence of Stevie-Me anally raping a lama while simultaneously sacrificing orphans at Disney Land and these cretins would portray him as the victim!!
If they weren’t so utterly abhorrent one would have to almost admire their tireless work in continually pushing the boundaries of self-righteous delusion.
As the picture proves above – his eyes were on the player he was kicking and not the ball, dirty cunt!
And Chelsea booing a player because he has a brother who was allegedly racially abused, is stupidity I can’t understand!
@Redbeard – one of the best posts I’ve read in a long time!
What a right effing cunt…competition for terry-cunt, methinks….
Dalglish is an outdated as well as Racially biased moron, and Suarez deserved a red for his attack on Parker, just look at the video, he was looking straight at Parker and not the ball in the air when he executed the kick………a really dirty player…..similar to de Jong when he first started until some players taught him a lesson and put him on the treatment table for some time……..looks like Suarez needs a similar lesson on the pitch…….perhaps a broken leg or ankle……shattered knee caps would definitely help him with his professional rehabilitation.
Where’s the evidence? When was Suarez given a fair chance to defend himself? How many times did Evra change his statement. Yet you go on talking about Kenny “supporting racism”. He is supporting the right to a fair trial. Suarez did not have a chance, as long as they convicted him without evidence. 99,5% of the people being charged by the FA are being convicted. Says it all.
BTW: Since 2010 5 ManUtd-fans arrested for racism. 1 LFC-supporter.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ferguson-stands-up-for-schmeichel-1280049.html
Guess you are all a bunch of racists too, since we are all generalizing nowadays.
@Briggsy
Cheers, mate!
Suarez show – karate kid
Redbeard….
Excellent post, Sir.
Agree with every one of those well chosen words.
It really is mind boggling the depths they will stoop to to avoid looking the truth in the eyes.
Shameful, shameful man, club and people.
Dalglish is correct, Suarez should never have been banned.
He was found guilty by the virtue of probability and taking one players word against another.
In no other country or in any other arbitration or court would the evidence presented be enough to convict a person of racially aggravated behaviour. You only have to look at the damning video evidence that clearly shows what Terry was saying yet he is still playing, no FA action and a court case conveniently allowed to be adjourned until the Summer. The reason for this is because a proper court case needs to be presented with all the facts both from the prosecution and defence before a person can be found guilty. Suarez was never afforded this opportunity, he was found guilty by a panel more interested in serving their own cause rather than seeing justice done.
It is why Dalglish stands firmly behind Suarez.
Reverse the situation and ask yourself if Evra was banned for 8 games based on probablility, would you be ok with it? I can assure you Ferguson would be contacting the European Courts and be boycotting interviews and TV channels and be totally livid with the FA.
ESPNs website shows a pic of Suarez apparently gouging Scott Parker’s eye with his fingers in last nights game; these players don’t care; there’s no leadership at Liverpool; standards there are the lowest they’ve ever been!
Spot on, Mike!
Suarez ADMITTED using the word. end of
Suarez had opportunity to defend himself at the hearing. He had representation.
The evidence he gave was vague and inconsistent and therefor unreliable. Contradicted by the majority of the other evidence, including Liverpool personell.
I’m not sure how much differently you think that might have gone down in “proper court”.
JB and Mike Arms
Suarez was scathingly racist to Evra. He cowardly expected that leniency would be shown when he hid behind the lie that he meant to be friendly. You know this, I know this, and the independent Hearing proved it.
Your support of this racist is a lie. You know he was guilty.
So does Dalglish.
Dogleash is showing all the signs of senile dementia, and his army of deluded disciples, follow lemming like to the precipice of mid table mediocrity.
We have to beat them!
I won’t survive if we lose after that.
Humiliate them.
Kill them.
Burn the fucking lot with their fans.
I HATE that cunt KKK.
I am sure KKK wanted to galvanize his players ahead of the OT game. What an idiotic way to go about it though…
Like zelh said, I want us to hammer the cunts.
@JB
You’re doing it deliberately aren’t you?
‘Where’s the evidence?’ – Evidence of what? Suarez calling Evra ‘negro’? Well. there’s a 115-page report detailing all the evidence and, besides, how much evidence do you need when he admitted saying it?
‘When was Suarez given a fair chance to defend himself?’ – Yes! Trouble is, he kept changing his story, as did all the people he called upon as corroborating witnesses.
‘Yet you go on talking about Kenny “supporting racism”. He is supporting the right to a fair trial.’ – Like the fair trial Suarez’s legal representative said he got? Or is it only ever really fare when you get what you want?
‘Suarez did not have a chance, as long as they convicted him without evidence.’ – But they didn’t, though, did they? Again, he admitted calling Evra ‘negro’, what more evidence do you want?
’99,5% of the people being charged by the FA are being convicted. Says it all.’ – Is this an accurate statisitic or did you just make it up? Assuming you didn’t, what’s your point? That the FA only charge people when they are confident of getting a conviction? Worth bearing in mind that they could probably get that number even higher if they ever bothered to charge Stevie-Me with any of the countless misdemeanours they have video evidence of him committing.
‘BTW: Since 2010 5 ManUtd-fans arrested for racism. 1 LFC-supporter.’ – That’s not true, is it? I can think of two LFC supporters who have been arrested for racially based charges in the FA Cup this year! Furthermore, racism is not a crime, you cannot arrest/charge someone for being racist. You can, however, be arrested/charged for saying racist things. This is why you’re continual bleating that Suarez is not racist is completely hollow but I wouldn’t expect you to understand the nuance.
Congratulations, you’ve provided a link to a newspaper article in which Alex Ferguson denied that Peter Schmeichel had racially abused Ian Wright. Forgive me, but I didn’t see your links to the articles where Schmeichel was found guilty of said accusation having admitted it, or the articles where the United players and fans portrayed Schmeichel as the victim, then produced Schmeichel t-shirts, accused the FA of deliberately trying to handicap United by banning their goalkeeper or compared Schmeicel to the Birmingham 6.
the only thing proved by the “independent” hearing, was that they took Evras word over Suarez. I don’t know what Suarez said and with what intent, but as long as it can’t be proven beyond doubt I don’t think he should be punished.
You can’t judge people without hard evidence, it’s just not how the world works, outside the FA anyways.
Like gaz said, Suarez admitted using the word and tried to hide behind the fact that it has a different meaning in Uruguay. There’s your evidence.
Suarez’s defence was that he was saying it in a friendly manner. In the middle of a United-Liverpooil derby. No wonder the FA panel considered him unreliable. Can’t believe we are still discussing the obvious.
I will say one thing though. Liverpool fans have a right to be upset about Terry’s case going to court next summer.
@ JB and mike
considering it was the testimonies of dalglish, kuyt, comolli and suarez himself which swayed the panel to find him guilty, i find it amazing you can come on here and spout your bullshit.
suarez also ADMITTED to using racist language (it may not be racist in uruguay, but it certainly is in england) so i don’t understand how you can possibly say it was one mans word against anothers. both evra and suarez agreed on the language used.
if suarez had done like the FA asked and not discussed the matter with the media, it would have been evras word against suarez’s.
nice work fuckwits, you’ve just made you cunt club look even more ridiculous.
How can Suarez be a racist? He has black hair.
For those Liverpool supporters who come on RoM and criticise the welcome they receive, can I ask if any of you have the decency to distance yourselves from your manager? The likes of Blackburn have gone to war against their Scotsman for far, far less, and Green and Gold supporters tried to oust a family of owners far more beneficial than the back-stabbing Yanks at Anfield. What will it take for a Scouse Spring exactly? Talk about the blind leading the blind.
Granted Dalglish is an “icon” for LFC or whatever but where do you draw the line? For objective fans watching his latest slurred post-match rant its obvious he isn’t “fit” to run a bath nevermind a Club. I honestly think a battering at the weekend could push him over the edge, not that he’s not teetering on it already. `
Even when you put the racism charge aside, as Manchester United already have, most LFC supporters I know want him out for giving 35 million to Newcastle when he could’ve bought Ba and Cissie for HALF that. He’s an absolute mug who is out of his depth in the modern game and has already spent a fortune on securing 7th place. Do people really think he’ll make the EUROPA spot this season? Ha, those LFC supporters still giddy over his return have forgotten his appointment was last minute and temporary. Nobody considered him in the grand scheme at the beginning did they? It was Kop aggression aimed at Hodgson and a poor run of results that forced LFC’s hand. Some “messiah” aye?
In fact, Dalglish makes the sacking of Rafa look like a bloody mistake, as he’ll NEVER get anywhere near a top 2 finish in this Premier League. Never. When you think about it Rafa was sacked for finishing 7th himself so how long has King Kenny got before he gets the chop exactly? At least FSW won a Champions League ffs! The Yanks could give Dalglish another 100 million but he’d still be no where near competing for top honours, just domestic Cups. End of the day Dalglish is no Mourinho, no Ancelloti, no Arry, and no Wenger. If anything he’s a complete waste of space and the game is worse off with his continuing presence.
The Evra issue was dead and buried as far as Alex Ferguson and the Club was concerned, so why is Liverpool’s manager hell bent on digging it back up at every opportunity? Is it because he’s a cunt worthy of the label? I’d say so.
Always nice to enter a discussion calling people “fuckwits”… Did the FA even care that Evra discussed the matter with french TV before he mentioned it anywhere else?
“both evra and suarez agreed on the language used.” -when did Suarez agree on saying “N#$ger” 10 times? Inconsistent anyone?
I guess you where one of those deeply angered by the one man making monkey gestures at the FA-cup match, while you didn’t care that 3000 of your own stood there singing “96 was not enough”. Classy!
@ Mike Arms
Three quick points
1. The ‘balance of probability’ is the legal standard used in non-criminal cases in the United Kingdom.
2. Suarez’s lawyer agreed that it was not a case of one mans word against another.
3. The FA can’t ban Terry because he is the subject of a CRIMINAL charge, hence the higher level of evidence required. Once the trial is over, the FA will then administer the punishment they see fit. Furthermore, the court case was only delayed because CFC wrote a letter requesting a delay on the grounds that Terry was ‘too busy’ to answer the charges during the season, nothing to do with the complexity of the case.
You, see – this is what happens when you get all your information from twitter and fan-forums. Try reading a newspaper, assuming there are some you haven’t boycotted yet.
JB
Your comment at 14:10 can only be your honest view IF you have not read the Findings.
Read them, or stop lying.
You would probably claim to love Liverpool, yet your support harms them.
If you truly wish to show that Suarez was hard done by, present us with your facts in a simple, ordered comment. We will happily review it. No false claims, silly unanswered questions or vague ‘facts’ should be used. If you have a fair point to make, it will be recognised as such. Your rambling disregard for the commonly known facts, and your disregard of the Findings, leave your views ill-considered and ridiculed without pause. Far better for your intended conversion of our view if you don’t treat our intellect as being dull. We are not sheep that will follow without reason. Sensibly show us our error, and we will sheepishly find common ground.
Your weak arguments smell suspiciously stale. We’ve heard that all before.
If you really want to educate us, we’re all ears!
Face it, Liverpool will never admit to it, no matter how much people talk about it. They have become a shadow of the club they used to be. Which is evident in the fact that the home crowd now cheers winning a throw-in. Which has always puzzled me.
“The ‘balance of probability’ is the legal standard used in non-criminal cases in the United Kingdom.”
As long as this is the case, you will have to accept that people disagree with the verdict. Kenny is free to do so.
@Briggsy
At least that’s something innocent. What I found more disturbing about their fans was the fact that they booed Scott Parker last night for the temerity of getting kicked in the gut by Suarez. Such is their plight.
Poor ole Kenny says that Suarez did not see Parker before he kicked him in the stomach…..despite having pushed him in the back a second earlier!!! About time Kenny put his brain in gear before opening his mouth.
The word ‘negro’ translates as ‘black person’ in Spanish and Portugese. However Suarez tried to portray its meaning the fact is, is that he said it as admitted by himself. Skin colour on any football pitch anywhere round the world would only ever be relevant when used as racism. Can Dalglish or anyone give any other reason for this? The answer is no. Racist BASTARD
@smartalex : no you wouln’t happily review it because your a manc and think your always correct.
In what world does guilty by ‘virtue of probability’ = ‘beyond any doubt’. what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
To be proven there has to be no doubt!
Protesting a man’s innocence to only then not appeal his punishment…….sounds like Queen Kenny’s sending out mixed messages. He clearly doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong, despite admitting using the word, despite Camolli, Kuyt, Daglish and Suarez’s testimonies containing huge gaping holes and contradictions in it and he’s apologies to everyone except the person he should only have to apologise to.
Truly the behaviour of a scumbag, liverpool fc and luis suarez, marriage made in hell.
This matter will never be able to move on at least until Evra is issued a public apology from Suarez and LFC for falsely accusing Pat of having previous.
At least this time everyone outside liverpool can see the truth.
@Costas I agree. It even got that bad they were booing everyone and anyone. So much so that when they booed at the end of the game, I honestly had no idea what it was for. Was because they didn’t win, the ref, some spurs player or the cat. Fuck knows. It was embarrassing.
@ JB
I guess you where one of those deeply angered by the one man making monkey gestures at the FA-cup match, while you didn’t care that 3000 of your own stood there singing “96 was not enough”. Classy!
don’t presume anything about me. you don’t know me and if i get pissed off about racism and about munich songs why would i think it was right to chant about hillsborough? think before you speak
Did the FA even care that Evra discussed the matter with french TV before he mentioned it anywhere else?
what, you mean how evra complained right after the match before the FA had a chance to tell both parties not to discuss the matter with the media? and please, evra told canal plus “you can see he said a word ten times to me”.. that was all he said on the matter. how long after the FA gave that rhetoric did suarez come out and do an interview with uruguyan tv?
“both evra and suarez agreed on the language used.” -when did Suarez agree on saying “N#$ger” 10 times? Inconsistent anyone?
i didnt mean language used as in the exact same wording. i meant language as in two words which mean the same thing.
JB FFS!!! read the document. The closing statement clearly says the decision was not based on believing one man’s word over another!!! this was agreed by Liverpool’s lawyers as well.
Suarez is really a saint isn’t he? he said “negro” in a friendly way in the middle of a heated argument……..
KKK is a brainless cunt,seriously he has to be dumber than a sack of hammers,didn’t even have to add anything just say yes it’s good to have Suarez back and move on.Dumb cunt has been the biggest stirrer in all of this,with the t-shirts,all that bollocks the dippers had proof that no one else had but never produced it
Think he’s doing it for the us against them mentality but it is so misplaced really begining to think he’s just dumb and some of his tatics and signings back that up,the Yanks would be better getting rid he’s out of his depth to be a top manager in this day and age
@JB
Come on your manager is losing it what was the point of that comment last night even if he believes it in his own mind? very silly would you not agree? as for the Suarez case evidence was over whelming and i woud advise you to go back and read the findings in a nuetral way rather then a pool fan. Look even every other clubs supporters in the country agree with the findings because they were obvious and hence the nice reception he will get everywhere for the rest of the season!
@mattos
Just been on Ebay and found something right up your street, ‘ Liverpool- The glory years. Only trouble is its on betamax
@ JB
Seriously?
People who base their opinions on objective reality rather than the deluded fallacies spread by bitter football fans are ‘fuckwits’? Thanks for coming here and raising the level of discourse.
‘Did the FA even care that Evra discussed the matter with french TV before he mentioned it anywhere else?’ – They might have done, if that actually happened but it didn’t. If you read the report you would know that Evra reported it to the referee first.
‘“both evra and suarez agreed on the language used.” -when did Suarez agree on saying “N#$ger” 10 times? Inconsistent anyone?’ – Both parties agreed that Suarez called Evra ‘negro’, that is an agreement on the language used. Evra said it was around 10 times, Suarez said once, so their difference was in the number of times the language was used, not the actual language. Reading comprehension anyone?
‘I guess you where one of those deeply angered by the one man making monkey gestures at the FA-cup match, while you didn’t care that 3000 of your own stood there singing “96 was not enough”. Classy!’ – Rather huge assumption on your part, not to mention exaggeration of the numbers involved but moral equivalence is not a defence. Anyway, 10 out of 10 for toeing the party line, LFC are always the victim.
‘“The ‘balance of probability’ is the legal standard used in non-criminal cases in the United Kingdom.”
As long as this is the case, you will have to accept that people disagree with the verdict. Kenny is free to do so.’ – Point? Are you suggesting the legal system in this country is in need of reform? Are you suggesting that those found guilty in civil cases should be free to ignore the outcomes of their cases? Is that your considered legal opinion or just an over-reaction to the banning of a certain camel-faced Uruguayan?
@JB – how many times he said it? He admitted to saying it once and thats where the investigation rightfully started. I don’t understand how people continue to play dumb on this.
Most people going before a court or tribunal often learn very quickly that the authorities are NOT as dumb as they first appear – case in point – If Suarez insisted he was being friendly, but its obvious he was being intentionally offensive, do people really think the FA would just take his word for it?
“Okay Mr Suarez, your blatantly lying to us but its okay, your free to go”…???
How stupid do people think the FA are? Even in a criminal court, if Suarez says it was all some big misunderstanding do you think the English Courts are UNABLE to see through his over-biting grin and form their own conclusion based on fact? Even Suarez’ own team mates and manager acknowledged there was real tension between him and Evra so the Uruguayan’s PRIMITIVE attempts to LIE about what was REALLY going on were thrown back in his face and reflected in his punishment.
ONE MORE TIME FOR THE STUPID – Suarez admitted to using a racist term once, and he was proven to have lied about the conversation he had with Evra when he used that racist term.
COMPARE THAT WITH EVRA – the Frenchman’s statements didn’t conflict with anybody EXCEPT for Suarez, and Suarez by this stage had already been established to be an “unreliable” and “inconsistent” witness by the FA.
His 8 Match Ban wasn’t rocket science fellas, and following the completion of that Ban our Manager (and Captain) has already moved on from the whole issue. That PRAT in charge of LFC should do the same and concentrate on bettering 7th place.
To match goers, please help ensure the boos towards convicted racist Suarez are twice what they did to our victim
If him kicking Parker last night proves anything, it’s that Suarez isn’t a racist, he’s just a cunt to everyone, no matter what their colour or creed
@ Paul Parker
Great post, mate!
nice paul.. well said
@ JB
Hahaha! I missed this gem earlier:
‘but as long as it can’t be proven beyond doubt I don’t think he should be punished’ – Are you actually suggesting that banning a footballer for eight games for using racially abusive language should be subjected to the same burden of proof as sentencing a man to 25 years in prison for murder? Have you lost all sense of perspective or is it only where LFC are concerned?
JB
In a civil dispute, the balance of probabilities means that the jurist presiding over the case analyzes which set of evidence is the most probable and the most convincing by a healthy margin. It is possible that one set of evidence can be overwhelmingly stronger than the other OR one set of evidence devalues its own credibility by being unreliable, inconsistent or illogical.
In the Evra-Suarez case, according to the published findings, the inconsistency of the testimony from suarez’s witnesses devalued his defense. It was then further devalued when Suarez admitted to calling him a negro but then tried to justify his usage of that term by submitting the preposterous notion that calling someone a negro is normal and unracist in Uruguay. As far as the presiding commission is concerned, your dear No.7 loss the case right there.
When you say that people and Dalglish have the right to disagree with the verdict, you are implying that you lot don’t trust the credibility of the jurists involved to make a fair, righteous decision based on the evidence at hand. I guess I can’t hold that against you. You are perfectly entitled to think that grass is purple even though the overwhelming evidence is that it is usually green. Nevertheless, that doesn’t change the fact that as far as the evidence is concerned, Suarez is a racist.
And as far as the evidence into suarez’s character is concerned: blatantly cheating in a WC QF…biting a player…pulling a player’s hair…insulting another team’s fans at their ground…calling a person a negro…kicking a player in the stomach…gouging a player’s eye…and possibly many many more – the undeniable conclusion is that Luis Suarez is a racist degenerate vile cunt!
Some points to note:
1. *Redbeard* is absolutely right… NO doubt about it.
2. If Kenny is still unsatisfied about Suarez’s bann, I strongly believe he needs an urgent brain test coz he may be suffering from ‘chronic amnesia’!.
3. At the same time, he (Kkk) had all the time in the world to appeal for the bann! What did he do with it? – he knows better.
In conclusion, I dearly ask and beg LFC fans to ask your so called Kkk’7′ why he did’nt appeal and stop bangin’ with senseless things here. In addition, a person who utters/uses racism/racist words e.g N***o is called a R……
Thank u!
How anyone can back someone like Suarez over such a sensitive case is beyond me. Kenny should have been happy to see this embarassing issue forgotten but alas he goes and drenches it up coz he can see there is no tactics he can employ footbalwise to stop a fired up Utd.
Suarez is a good striker but he is a cheat ! Sooner the KOP know that the better they will be able to handle their player and help him stay away from controversy. Denial will only see him getting worse and the presure will eventually tell.
Liverpool were better under Rafa! Bring back Benitez!
Benitez had better mind games!
@JB The fact that only 1 dipper has been convicted of racism ( which came only after your racist player was stupid enough to show himself on the pitch) shows that your poxy club are not even addressing the issue!
Balance of probabilties is an entirely valid legal burden of proof so to say this is inadequate is absolute tripe.
The Legal Representative for Luis Suarez admitted that this was NOT A CASE OF ONE MANS WORD AGAINST THE OTHER.
The case was decided on the point that the cultural expert stated the word negro as used by Luis Suarez would be considered racist in Uruguay in the context of an angry exchange or argument.
Video evidence showed that Suarez pinched Evra on the arm. It would be absurd to think this was a friendly exchange.
Luis Suarez was forced to admit during questioning that it was not a friendly altercation.
This goes beyond one mans word against another. On a preponderance of the evidence the case was comfortably proven. For any other outcome one would have to take the view that the altercation was friendly. As it would be absurd to do so the decision was sound.
@Saad
Excellently summed up i have to say.
I might add that Sewar Rat is the King of Cunts his cuntishness is now on Par with the original Cunt John tiny tears, Dyke hair,Cretin Family ,his cock of a brother who drove a poor man over the edge, drug dealing,bung taking,squashed faced CUNT Terry, Sewar Rat is a despisable creepy fucking greasy slimey cowardly mutant with a face i cant make out is it a fucking rat/rabbit/donkey or all 3 mixed together, i hate his fucking hoofs,his paws his demonical looking persona he is the height of human slime.he is a cunt whos sperm should have been swallowed.CUNNNNTTTT!
No doubt about it, Suarez measured up little Parker and then them did him like a kipper. Just glad he didn’t see red so the OT faithful get to show the idiot (hero of antfields is it?) our proper respect.
On a much brighter note, any word about Nemanja Vidic and wife Ana Ivanovic. I understand they had a baby yesterdays? Congratulations to Ana and Nemanja.
Ana Ivanovic is not Vidic’s wife!
JB YOU MUG. that is totally different you fool. If anybody had proved that schmeichel used a slur against Ian wright you think Fergie would defend him? Your racist cunt of a manager continued to back this stupid fuck EVEN AFTER a verdict had been reached and after the F.A report had been released. THREE members of your team we asked to tell their side of the story. it resulted in three DIFFERENT STORIES. How the fuck do you expect anyone to believe Liverpool when they have 3 different made up stories? Lawdy me. the world is full of utter plonkers.
RedBeard has ALWAYS produced top posts and should come on more often. Always said that.
I never brought up bile when I saw Dogleash’s interview last night. He is a fucking scum bag and is dragging the scousers even deeper into the mire.
*nearly* not *never*
“You, see – this is what happens when you get all your information from twitter and fan-forums. Try reading a newspaper, assuming there are some you haven’t boycotted yet.”
Quality.
Paul Parker – Hey up mate. Spot on.
“There’s a tavern in the town (in the town) , and we’re gonna burn it down…………………………………………………………………..”.
Marq – You can rest assured mate on Saturday that racist little cunt will be getting dogs from me.
Very kind of you, mate – will try to comment more often.
Redbeard – No worries pal. I genuinely mean it. Have always loved your posts. Intelligent but witty at the same time.
Note to Scotty Parker from Suarez:
Welcome to Anfield son: You’ll never walk again!
KK Kenny has masterminded the down fall of a club that was once respected. His antics has made the dippers the laughing stock in world football. Well done KKK, rehiring is turning out to be a master stroke
Can I ask a question? What the hell are rat munching murdering racist fan doing on a manchester united blog anyway? I would not deface my key board by typing in the web address for one of their sites.
JB you are such a fucking idiot. Suarez admits he called Evra a negro to LFC staff and players. HE WAS CONVICTED MAINLY BECAUSE OF THIS. IT’S VALID EVIDENCE IN ANY COURT OF LAW.
Now shut the fuck up and moan else where you racist supporting prick.
Kenny …PLEASE keep talking and saying how much of a victim Suarez is. At LFC common sense is not just uncommon it’s downright non existent.
Here is the link to Suarez kicking Parker and and accompanying story. NO doubt it was intentional.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/luis-suarez-returns-promptly-kicks-scott-parker-stomach-222721881.html
video: http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/gif-of-the-day-luis-suarez-kicks-scott-parker-in-the-belly-liverpool-spurs/
Even the guardian is having a go at KKKenny… lol
“Kenny Dalglish is still resisting the pull of the 21st century, insisting that Luis Suárez should never have been banned after being found guilty of racially abusing that nasty Patrice Evra. You stay klassy, King Kenny.
Liverpool have put their last shred of dignity up for sale. Manchester City have made a £60m bid for the Anfield cat.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/feb/07/the-rumour-mill-eden-hazard-arsenal
Skimmed over the argument going on here and didn’t see this article linked:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/vivek-chaudhary-i-lived-in-south-america–theres-no-doubt-negro-is-racist-6285002.html
I’d take the word of someone who has lived in South America and heard first hand what is deemed offensive over there, than someone posting on a forum who is blindly (like the rest of Liverpool fans) protecting one of their own. It was offensive and Suarez clearly knew what he was doing, just like when he kicked Scott Parker last night, and tried to bite a players ear off.
John Terry isn’t going to get away from the FA, maximum he can get fine wise from the magistrates court it is going through is 2,500 pounds. Which is woefully low, but once that is sorted I suspect the FA will hand him a hefty fine and a ten match ban minimum if not the rest of the season.
Redbeard, thanks. I’m glad you have posted what I was (probably less articulately) thinking.
Fred, Well, I wasn’t at the wedding to verify, but almost every site I find clearly lists Nemanja and Ana as married.
This (outdated?) is from his wiki site:
On 17 July 2006, Vidić married Ana Ivanović, an economics student at the University of Belgrade (no relation to the Serbian tennis star of the same name). Together, they have three sons named Luka,Stefan and Petar
Also saw a clip from a couple weeks ago that had them sponsoring a maternity unit in Manchester. Thought it also said they were husband and wife.
cheers
Made you look!
Not verbatim, but if any Liverpool fans took the time to read the extensive report spelling out why Suarez was found guilty they would come across a line not unlike the following:
“Mr Suarez’ legal representatives … accepted that the verdict was not simply a case of one players word against another”
@ JB.
What did ur lot expect That United-supporters wouldn´t make up a song about Hillsbourough when they have had to listen to songs about Munich for more then 20 years every time we visited Anfield? Are u a bully that runs home to mama every time u get it back? Take a look at the report regarding Suarez http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Disciplinary/Written%20reasons/FA%20v%20Suarez%20Written%20Reasons%20of%20Regulatory%20Commission.ashx
And don´t even try and just read the conclussion, get through it all, then put aside u fancy a racist team, get an opinion of your own. After u done that and still believe Suarez isn´t a rabbitfaced racist, come back here and I will listen, and try and explain what all the fancy words in the report means. Fuckin ignorant to come around here cryin that a racist isn´t a rasict! I don´t log into your blogs and whine about Gerrard being a fuckin diver!
Theyre all wearing “The cat is innocent” t-shirts on saturday…
What the hell is LFC fans doing here? Piss off alright. This is RoM! Not your bloody LFC page. You guys still keep going on about this racist thing. It is OVER! He was banned for 8 games. Don’t you think that’s enough? Oh, wait, it’s not, since he kicked Scott Parker on the stomach and tried to gouge out his eyes at one point. Even worse LFC fans started booing Scott.
Your manager’s a cunt as well as the fans. Wow, what a surprise.
This is the most informed supporter based website i have come across. Just spent the last hour reading the above arguments and am amazed. I would love for us to win a 20th league, but more than anything, I want us to destroy those whinging racist cunts on Saturday. More than anything. As a bonus, can one of our lads leave that rat faced buck toothed scum cunt in a heap as early as possible please? We are playing great stuff and someone is going to be on the end of a hiding soon, I hope it is on Saturday.
JB that article is 15 years ago almost to the day, the majority of the responses are directed at the ignorance that LFC has shown towards racism today (not 15 years ago, quite a bit has changed since then). Since the Suarez incident there has been racially abusive language used toward a black player (Tom Adeyemi) be at least one LFC fan at which point the KOP decided it was in good taste to start their Luis Suarez chant (a man convicted of racially abusing a black player only a month before, whether you think he did it or not, one must question the timing of the chant which was being sung by the majority of the KOP) another LFC fan has made monkey gestures toward Patrice Evra (the very same player that Suarez was charged for using racially abusive language towards) LFC booed Evra for reporting a racist remark and the manager when asked snapped at the reporter saying he had been booed and stated “A bit of banter is fine”. I would love to know the time the KD was booed for reporting racial abuse. Suarez admitted to saying “negro” which was deemed racially abusive.
The manager and team have never accepted any responsibility during this and for me have neglected their social obligation to handle this situation properly. Instead they have worn T-shirts support Suarez’s actions, continually stressed he did nothing wrong and have released a number of statements that don’t make alot of sense to anyone other than some LFC supporters. Football fans have a very tribal mentality and to rally up thousands of fans to justfiy racial abuse due to cultural misunderstanding is completely irresponsible. It is getting to the point where the FA needs to step in deal with this club and manager that is clearly missing the point of where socially football needs to go.
Fred. Ah hemm. WUM!!
Being Mex-American, I can speak on the whole latino side of this. The word “negro” from Mex to Brazil can and is used as a simple non-offensive word to describe and/or speak to someone of color. No one feels insultef over its use.
Having said that, this same word can be used in an insulting and racist manner. Luis Suarez could have used it in an amicable way towards Evra and it was taken completely out of context. Then again, maybe Suarez did use it in an offensive manner.
Someone’s word over the other is not considered cold hard evidence. In the U.S. as in England, the use of this word is not used tolerated in any way. Again, in most spanish speaking countries this is the norm. Nevertheless, racism and ignorance shouldn’t be tolerated anywhere.
This humble LFC fan wishes ManU luck.
(by the way, i’m a faithful Red and couldn’t jump on the Red Devil bandwagon simply because Chicharito jooined the team)
Who gives a fuck who Vidic is married too!
I actually despise Dogleash more than any other football personality. He should fucking know better. What the hell is he trying to pull before Saturdays game. I’m not surprised he hasn’t be pulled up on that comment. He’s repeatedly questioned the FA without so much as a hint of a warning. Tuesday has just ended so there pretty much 3 days for this fool to make more idiotic comments in order to stir the pot ahead of the game.
Queen Kenny = massive CUNT!!!!
Fuck Kunt Kenny and his troops of racist idiots, I hope we steam-roll over them like we did against arsenal at OT
In Uruaguay its normal to bite someone’s ear off during a football match, its a sign of affection in a ‘love bite’ sort of way.
All those scousers laughing at that cat on the pitch at anfield the other night.
They won’t find it so funny when they find out Dalglish paid £12 million for him as a replacement for Pepe Reina.
Dalglish response has been repugnant. The media has been relatively kind to him IMO and I wonder why not more have come out to condemn him like James Lawton:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-cool-heads-are-needed–yet-dalglish-still-fuels-the-fires-6657735.html
Luis Suárez race row with Patrice Evra: timeline
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8987656/Luis-Suarez-race-row-with-Patrice-Evra-timeline.html
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Suarez on Uruguayan Radio
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Suárez told the Uruguayan station Radio Sport 890: “I know against United it is going to be tense because I’m going to face Evra. But I’m used to having fans whistle at me. I hope nothing unusual happens. I’ll have to forget what happened for that moment.
“I do know Man United fans are going to try to make me feel uncomfortable. But I have to tell them, they are going to spur me on if they whistle at me.”
The 25-year-old also expressed his dismay with the way the incident was handled.
“I knew what I did and there is a kind of football law that says: ‘What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch and that’s the end of the story.’
What is he admitting too?
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JB, Death row is full of innocent little sweethearts.
The verdict of the body that rules English football is that Suarez was guilty, that is the b-all and end-all of this.
Dogleash dragging up the innocence protestations is classless, near-sighted and just plain ignorant (being polite) at best.
The verdict was given, the sentence served, that should have been the end of it but given that the perennial victims of everything bad that’s ever happened anywhere, aka the Anfield fans booed the victim and that your manager has decided to perpetuate the event is beyond crass.
Ferdinand was banned for eight months for MISSING a drug test but we didnt go to the European Courts for justice. He served his time and if you are even beggining to suggest that rascism is less serious than MISSING a drugs test you and all of your deluded knuckle dragging associates are beyond help.
Suarez has apparently stated that if he is whistled or booed at OT this saturday it will inspire him. Prepare to be inspired beyond any level you have ever been inspired Buggs cos its coming !!
Defending Suarez would be easier if he had pleaded innocent when charged. But the idiot wrote his own sentence by pleading ignorance and acting like back home such actions are accepted and viewed as friendly. I wonder how many of us Hispanics would keep our teeth in our mouth if we started calling people by their skin color trying to be friendly. Dalglish’s handling of the matter has been plain ignorant and shows a significant level of incompetence.
Utd fans seem happy to take the overall verdict on face value, but not the FA and Evra’s assertation that Suarez isn’t a racist. How selective is that?
If he has served the sentence what the hell is to be gained by banging on about it so close to the first fixture when they will be face to face again, given that supposedly both clubs appealed for calm ahead of the fixture at the field.
Its like arguing that “that was never a penalty last weekend”. If you can’t see that it is equally pointless and won’t change what has happened and that everyone should just move on, people like you are exactly why Liverpool FC and its fans have been shamed by not just the actions of Buggs Bunny but also the clubs reaction since.
Playing the “Scousers are always victims” card just makes you more of a laughing stock.
Nothing to do with “selective”.
Just grow up and move on, like your manager seems incapable of doing.
“Just grow up and move on, like your manager seems incapable of doing.”
Haha. Coming from someone supporting the most childish 70 year old in the world, thats actually quite funny.
At least he’s not excusing a scumbag like Suarez JB.
So what exactly do you hope to gain from continuing on your soapbox over what has been and gone then JB ?
What do you possibly hope to achieve ?
Acknowledgement that everyone is against you and your kind ?
If your manager and people like you “supporting” him keep up the whining, pretty soon everyone will be so good luck in the pursuit of your self full filling prophecy.
Most childish 70 year old??? fuck off you thick prick…we`re supporting the greatest manager the game has ever seen….and talking about childish managers,just look at kkkenny every time he is asked a question by a journo….what a twat he is,he has to try and come up with a stupid smarmy reply every time.
@ JB
‘Utd fans seem happy to take the overall verdict on face value, but not the FA and Evra’s assertation that Suarez isn’t a racist. How selective is that?’ – No more selective than accepting the FA and Evra’s assertion that Suarez isn’t racist at face value but rejecting the actual verdict of the hearings. See what I did there? There are 115 pages of evidence that your man used racially aggravated language and you only accept one line of it.
‘the most childish 70 year old in the world’? Why, exactly? Because he has abided by the FA’s request not to speak publicly about the enquiry? Or perhaps because he said that, in his mind the issue was done and he wanted to move on from it? Maybe because he wrote a letter to all the United fans attending the recent FA Cup match in the cauldron of sanctimony your club calls a home ground and asked them not to take part in any offensive songs or chants? Yes the man is an utter child isn’t he?
Just out of interest, what evidence do you have that Suarez isn’t racist? Do you know him personally? Have you had a lengthy conversation with him about his views on race relations? Oh, I know, because his granddad was black, right? All that proves is that his grandmother wasn’t racist! What you seem incapable of understanding is that racism is not a cut and dry issue. Just because someone doesn’t wake up ever morning wanting to beat-up black people doesn’t mean he isn’t racist. He has played with black people throughout his career? If you follow that logic through to its ultimate conclusion then white plantation owners were not racist because they let black people in their house and let them cook their food. At the very least, we know that Suarez thinks it’s okay to tell somebody ‘I kicked you because you’re black’ and ‘I don’t speak to blacks’. These are racist statements. Anybody who thinks that its okay to use racist language, even in the heat of an argument, and that the other party has no right to be offended (which he obviously does, given his continued refusal to apologise) clearly has some rather unsavoury views on race, views that most normal human beings find disturbing. Kenny, who I’m sure is well aware of what has been said, also seems to think that Evra has no right to be offended by racist language suggesting that he too holds views that are way out of step with almost anyone doesn’t hold a cultish allegiance to LFC and, as such, deserves to be criticised.
You seem keen on moral equivalence so let me ask you this; if you think that it is okay to use racist language to wind somebody up, why is it not okay to sing songs about Hillsborough just to wind some one up? Both are repulsive, in my mind, but surely the casual use of racist language has a far more pernicious effect on society, no?
O/T but Scott, can you tweak things again so the background isn’t red, its a bugger to read through the posts Chief.
A white background for what has been posted is much more retina friendly.
Cadelin:
I thought that was just me with the red thing, but I found if you refresh the page it goes back to the white background.
JB on here as another Liverpool apologist trying to defend the indefensible. As much as I hate the scousers I would have respected them if they had excepted the FA verdict and then reaffirmed their supposed stance against racism and said that Suarez would receive guidance on racist language and insults within a British context. He has already spent 4 years in Europe so how the fuck was he not aware that using the term negro to a black person would not be seen as racist language.
Which brings me to Saturday and the news that the FA will not drop the “hand shake” between the 2 teams at the start of the game. SAF is quoted in todays papers as saying Evra can rise above the issue and shake hands wirh Suarez. Personally I think this is putting Evra under too much personal pressure as Loserpool will use this to suggest that there was no validity to Evra’s claim because he has shaken hands with someone who supposedly racially abused him.
In light of KKK’s total rejection of the FA’s conclusions and his unwillingness to accept that Suarez did anything wrong I would want the UTD players to show their complete support for Evra and their total opposition to racism by everyone to a man refusing to shake Suarez’s hand on Saturday. This would be an expression of solidarity with a team mate who has been racially abused and make absolutely clear that UTD players are taking an anti-racist stance.
Remember the Specials song “If you have a racist friend now is the time for that friendship to end” as true now as it was 30 years ago!
Redbeard, you articulate exactly what I want to say but so much more eloquent and concise. I, sadly, would descend into a haze of anger and end up calling kkkenny and his minions cunts. Repeatedly.
Thanks for the tip Keighley but sadly its all still red viewing (literally).
Red Keighley, I agree totally with your view that our lads should, to a man, reject Suarez’ hand if the situation arises. I can see Sir Alex’s argument that for Evra to offer his hand would show him as the bigger man in the situation, however, given that Suarez has refused to apologise to Evra for racially insulting him, if Evra was to shake his hand it could present the image that it didn’t matter all that much to Evra after all. Utd and Evra have done nothing wrong, why should either party be put in an uncomfortable situation.
Remember Highbury and the Viera tunnel incident? Remember how half the side refused to shake Vieras hand? Remember the signal that sent out and remember the destructive performance of that night? Same again please boys, same again.
Also, I would love to see a massive banner flowing throughout the ground with a picture of our captain plastered on it. It would show our support for Evra, it would show the watching world of our, and the clubs, stance on racism and ultimately it would should the world that the real victim here is Evra, not Suarez. It would make Evra the headline event, not that rat faced scumbag.
@Pebblesmeller
You’re too kind! I understand the urge to use of the word ‘cunt’, though!
he knows exactly what hes’s doing. Dont play into his hands by reacting the way KKK predicted., be you a fan manager or player. Fergie is the master of mindgames , so I suggest clown kenny shut the fuck up.
Talking to a scouse loserpool fan today. He admitted him and many he knows will always support hi,m publicly but admitted , if he didnt play for Liverpool, we would call him a cunt too.
JB
Go back to Wankfield, we know there You Never Wank Alone.