To mark the 25th anniversary of Sir Alex Ferguson being Manchester United manager, Daniel Taylor has re-released his book This Is The One. This book saw Danny banned from Ferguson’s Friday press conferences four years ago and apparently news of the re-release didn’t go down too well either…
Scott The Red: How did the book get you in to trouble with Fergie?
Daniel Taylor: You tell me! He has never read it. He asked his press officer to read it on his behalf and the press officer delivered him a report which basically says ‘no problems whatsoever.’ But I guess Fergie’s Fergie isn’t he? He banned me anyway and, once that happens, you try changing his mind.
Either way, it’s not the big deal people think. I’d rather be in, obviously. But all it really means is that I just have to watch the Friday press conferences on MUTV. It doesn’t apply to Champions League or post-match. It’s purely the Friday thing. I don’t understand it properly, but he’s clearly got a bee in his bonnet about it. I emailed the club to say the book was being re-released for his anniversary and when they got round to telling him he went potty apparently. It’s all a bit strange.
STR: Do you reckon you’ll ever be allowed back into his press conference?
DT: It’s been four years now, so I doubt it. The press office think it’s absurd but they would never dare challenge him. They asked me to write to him at one point and when I handed them the letter it was three months before they passed it on. They just don’t want to tackle him.
But listen, Fergie banned MUTV once because one of their presenters said he preferred 4-4-2 to 4-5-1. He banned Sky for asking too many questions and let them back only on condition their reporter didn’t sit on the front row. The man doesn’t operate by normal rules and, yes, it can be exasperating from this side and not what you imagined it would be like when you started in journalism. But this is the monster/genius and it’s still an enjoyable ride. Maybe one day Ferguson might realise he actually gets great press, the weekend just gone being a prime example. But the good still outweighs the bad when you’re covering United and you don’t lose sight of that.
STR: How much stick do you get from rival fans about writing a book on Fergie?
DT: Only a couple of weirdo City fans who seemed to think it meant I was his secret lovechild or something. I couldn’t quite understand the correlation because you’d hardly say Patrick Barclay, Ollie Holt or Michael Crick were close to Ferguson. But Twitter’s full of strange people, isn’t it? I’d quite like to do a City book, to be honest, but the problem is there’s been such a large turnover in personnel over there historically nobody ever sticks around long enough. With Ferguson, there’s 25 years of great material. There’s a story to be done about the City takeover and the rise of the club but I believe someone’s got there before me anyway. And Manchester, the patch, is just too busy anyway these days.
STR: What advice would you give to a journo attending his first Fergie press conference?
DT: It’s always quite amusing seeing a newbie trying to get ‘in’ with him. You can shake his hand, introduce yourself, wear your best suit, the lot – he will just look straight through you and, to be honest, if you’re under the age of 50, he really doesn’t want to know. It’s a trust thing. He’s suspicious of faces he doesn’t know, especially if they have a southern accent (“another one from London coming up here to make his fucking name”). The best thing a new journalist can do is sit there quietly and learn what is, and what is not, accepted. Because the ‘rules’ are complex and if you don’t know them you won’t last long.
STR: On to the manager. What do you think his greatest achievement has been?
DT: The thing that always impresses me the most is just his sheer endurance, the way he defies age. People think he’s old-school and, in a sense, he is because they don’t make them in that mould any more. But then you look at the way he has always moved with the times, the way he has beaten the system and is still maybe three or four years off retiring, and you can’t really find anyone comparable. The bloke’s 70 next month and you can forget sometimes that he had a pacemaker fitted a few years ago. He’s in one of the most gruelling jobs in football, with all the stresses it must bring and, let’s be honest, he likes a glass of wine with his dinner. Yet he seems immune to fatigue. I know how knackered I can feel coming back from tours halfway across the world, or flying straight back after European nights, but the man is pretty much always first in at Carrington, usually before sunrise. A bowl of porridge, maybe half an hour in the gym then into his day’s work. That’s a rare form of energy.
STR: What do you think his lowest moments have been?
DT: He’d probably say it was those moments in late-89 and early-90 when it looked like he might be sacked and the fans were turning on him. That quote stands out from that time, when he was talking about finding it hard to look people in the eye in case it was a United supporter, simply because he felt he was letting everyone down so badly. I was speaking to Pete Molyneux the other day, the supporter who held up the ‘Ta ra Fergie’ banner and it feels faintly ludicrous now thinking back to that time – crowds just over 30,000, a struggling team, Liverpool cleaning up and the beginnings of a proper mutiny against Ferguson.
Since I’ve been covering the club (1998 onwards) the start of the 2005-06 season was probably the most traumatic. There was the Roy Keane thing, ‘Play the Pundit,’ the fall-out, Keane being booted out, that night in Paris when the fans were turning on the players. The team went out of the Champions League at the group stage, not even qualifying for the Europa League (probably a blessing in disguise) The football was pretty dour, the fans were blaming Queiroz (remember Ferguson having to defend him in the programme and the chants of “four-four-two” at the Blackburn game?), people were falling out left, right and centre and it all felt very aggro.
Looking back, it can feel like another end-of-the-empire balls-up from the media. But there was a legitimate question to be asked about where it left Ferguson at that point. The Glazers had only just moved in, so nobody really knew what their intentions were and how patient they would be. Hugh McIlvanney, who was close to Ferguson at the time, was suggesting Ferguson should manouvre his own departure before he is “despatched by remote control.” Fortunately, the only thing you could say about the Glazers is that they kept their nerve and supported him. But Bobby Robson went public at the time and admitted Ferguson had confided to him that he was thinking of packing it all in. Which tells you two things: a) Bobby Robson wasn’t the best person to confide in b) maybe, just maybe, Ferguson is vulnerable to the same insecurities as every one else.
STR: Who have been his best and worst signings?
DT: I’d say Solskjaer was the best when you think he cost so little and the service he gave in return. You could argue a case for Schmeichel, Irwin, Cantona and a few others but Solskjaer would be my pick. Plus he didn’t do too badly with Ronaldo, with a nice £68m profit.
As for the worst, can you look any further than Bebe? He came, he saw and he crossed the ball into the opposite stand, eh? I doubt we’ll ever get to the bottom of that one, to be honest. I used to think it was a Panorama documentary in the making. But someone pretty high at the club has since told me they were willing to take the hit just to keep Jorge Mendes sweet, as they knew he would be useful down the line (Mendes not Bebe). Either way, it’s a pretty unsatisfactory story.
Runners-up spot: I’ll always retain a soft spot for Dong Fangzhou. Long live Dong! I went to Antwerp to interview him once. He didn’t speak a word of English, I didn’t speak Chinese and we sat in a traffic jam on the Antwerp ring road in his Nissan listening to acid house. Good days.
STR: How important was Ferguson’s role in convincing Rooney to stay at United last October?
DT: Crucial, and I’d probably say this was the most impressive I’ve seen Ferguson in his press conferences. He dealt with it brilliantly, to be honest. I just think it’s a shame that, by and large, he opts for deliberate blandness in his press conferences. I’m sure he would tell you he has his reasons. But when he lifts the mask and offers his true feelings, there aren’t many more captivating people in sport. And he nailed it, didn’t he?
It was a combination of great speech-making, strategy and maybe a bit of acting, too. There was never one moment when you lost sight of the fact he was top dog, but he also applied just the right amount of pressure on Rooney to make him change his mind. Rooney’s camp made blunder after blunder and, in the end, I think he lost his nerve. Yes, he got his pay rise, but I don’t go with the theory that it was all a stunt to get more money. City definitely thought they had got him through the Marwood-Stretford connection. “The perfect signing – strengthen yourself, weaken your opponent” – that’s how they put it.
STR: What do you make of Ferguson ending his feud with the BBC?
DT: We probably won’t know what actually happened until Ferguson brings out another book and, even then, it will be heavily weighted in his favour. We knew they were talking but it still came as a surprise, especially as the BBC are adamant there was no apology. It’s not as if Ferguson needed the BBC particularly, so I really couldn’t be sure about his motives. They reckon it’s a lot to do with the BBC moving to Salford but that doesn’t quite stack up to me. Why would he particularly care where they are based? Either way, it was unexpected. Not sure about you, but Match of the Day without Mike Phelan and his plaster feels a strange place.
STR: What importance do you think the recent derby will play in the title race this season?
DT: It was a big thing for City’s mindset, I reckon. They beat United in the FA Cup semi-final. Then they won the final and got rid of all the “35 years” stuff. I just think they know they can win things now and don’t have the inferiority complex of before. The killer time for them will be next spring because, if they’re still at the top, they haven’t been in that position before and it’s bound to get edgy. Will their fans start getting jumpy? And, if so, will it transmit to the players? But right now you have to say they’ve been more than impressive and probably favourites. It could be a strange season at Old Trafford if you can’t close the gap. It’s all very new to everyone and I reckon there’d be some fairly grumpy matches.
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Take on Sir Alex at your peril!
i can’t imagine there will ever be another manager who will control a club like the Great One controls all at United.
Having said that, it’s a right he has earned.
Unique.
Good read. Still don’t trust em. But it does add to the entertainment.
Fantastic insight, truly engrossing ,gad so much sniping goes on.
The moral of the story for me(jesting) always eat your porridge, and listen to acid house music.
Thanks for sharing Daniel.
Terrific interview STR, loved it……. Great job
Any chance of u now moving on from the 25 year celebrations and get back to what’s important which is the future and the fact were playing awful football were second rate compared to city and our midfield is such a joke we have to sacrifice our best player to cover the holes in it. Because I for one don’t want to c those blue cunting bastards parading the league trophy around and by the way were playing and how their playing it looks like an inevitability.
The annoying thing about the media is they have this self-important thing going on. The quality of posts on blogs like this outshine much of the professional Journalist’s offerings and that’s without any access to the great man or United press conferences.
Can you imagine how great this blog would be if Scott and a handful of regulars were to have even 10 minutes with Sir Alex?
“The Uncut Story of a football genius”. You put this on the front cover of a book, it suggests you are trying to expose information that the manager would rather not be publicised. Then you accuse him of being funny with you, yet you admit you’re all cunts. You’re hardly out of College by the looks of you and you talk about ‘newbies’. You all act like you know more than the average fan and to be honest, that’s very condescending. You have access to Sir Alex, we don’t, yet we write more interesting stuff. You’re shit.
Dong Fangzhou and Bebe
What a laugh
The Situation
Torres and Carroll, even funnier
I really want Bebe to make it. What a great story that would be.
I would have picked Eric Djemba Djemba as worst signing, Weren’t some saying he was the answer to Roy Keane.
In a lot of ways he’s already made it. Signed for United, scored in Europe. More than can be said for Caroll. What a massive waste of money and what a serial fouling twunt that guy is. Dodgy Russian dealings, it was said on here (I think)… Torres to Chelsea/Caroll to Liverpool/Dodgy Cockney Newcastle owners triangle of corruption. The Geordie alchoholic thug didn’t want to leave.
Fuck City and fuck Chelsea. Both a post’s-width away from dropping two points this weekend.
Livid.
Great job STR, I like it to bits……..
Daniel Taylor is just a self-important spotty cunt.
@kanchelskis
Well said, their luck must start to run out soon. The 2 week break should give us time to re-group ready for Swansea, which I feel may not be as easy as everybody first thought.
Dont mess with the great legendary Sir Alex,
he is the physchologist one time and a dictator the other time, everything in order to keep the good interests of UNITED…
Replying here to other thread…
Good evening lovely Red Devils around the world..
is ROM running master chef competetion? i would bet my bucks on Jeet and Cedars then
@ Prasan,
sorry for the late reply bud, was travelling from office to home..
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the display pic is UNITED LOGO with a print of BELIEVE in the center..
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Cheers
No way I want to be ROM Masterchef
I recall that some here were critical of the boss over his actions with the BBC, some even went over board when he said that the FA treat us like shit……ha?
Sandeep
I cannot cook to save my own life buddy, a few meals here and there but nothing to brag about…. Mixing drinks on the other hand is a different story! Should have had me instead of Tom Cruise in the movie Cocktail! hahaha
Sandeep
Article writing? One obvious name springs to mind MG! Cyril is also great as is STR…
Best of all with all due respect is our own resident Sir Giles….. Anyone of them would be a great help I am sure….. Balaji and Stateside also spring to mind
Me a writer never heard of it Cedars!
MG
Ha? Hehehe, I am in love with that word ha by the way! No need to be so humble my friend, you are a terrific writer and you know it…. Always look forward to your posts when you get going, so full of inspiration… Genius
Ok got a cold. Trying to follow Jeet’s recipe using stuff I’ve got in, so it’s Bay leaves, cloves, Ginger, lemon, black pepper… and a shit load of sherry! Fucking rank. Hope it works.
xol
hahahaha, you never fail to crack me up! Just throw whatever you have and a shit load of booze, you’ll be fine
Good read Scott, enjoyable and insightful.
Cedars
But Cedars every Genius has a motivation a foundation to work from – couldn’t do it at all without all of you guys.
19
Damn these international breaks, should just scrap that all together…. What’s the point except filling the pockets of Platter and co?
MG
Do not start getting emotional on me, just popped a pair of pills for my pains and they have a strange emotional effect on me….. Bloody cried my eyes out watching Sir Alex on Saturday…. Mind you I would have done anyway regardless of the drugs!
Anyone heard of this kid Andreas Pereira, he’scoming to OT in the new year apparently. www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7296798/PSV-starlet-confirms-United-deal
Cedars
You big cry baby you!
Little bit of emotion does no harm at all – hell I felt it coming back from Kuala Lumpur on the aeroplane – 25 years is a magnificent achievement and the best part of it is that he isn’t even finished.
Fairy tale? It’s as real as it gets and what a journey it has been and what a journey it will be.
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Worst signing – Eric Djemba Djemba… Keano’s ‘replacement’
Damn these pills kick in fast, should sell them over the counter! hahaha
MG
Never been ashamed of shedding a tear, and who is more worth it than the great man? Watching him being so humble and gracious after all that he has done knocked me out….. To think that some are critical of him is pathetic
Cedars
Touche my good friend
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Cedars,
i m unable to post,
dont know why it dint get pasted…
lemme break it and try posting
Woah, Cedars, I am really humbled you put me alongside some of those names. Thanks for that my friend, my appreciated.
Shannon was a football player, used to play for Southampton if I am not mistaken? Could not remember details at this stage to save my life….. Perhaps resident stat experts can help?
Think he played for England as well
i would write anything that my client wants to be precise.
the scenario is i m working for someone else so i cant be in touch with clients, they means i have to take a huge cut in pay to the hard work i put in,
for me, my regular job salary is not good enough to take care of me and my bros in this bloody expensive city,
so i have to pull along this part time job of writing that gives me some support in day today life..
Letsee..
sorry for the post..
and sorry to post this personal stuff here..
sincere aplogies to others as well, i just wanted to know if anyone in that domain that could tap me in..
Cedars,
thanks for the ping on article writing my friend,
all of them whom you mentioned are way classic writers here,
i m into a different shit freelancing,
i write on thr stuffs mentioned below which gets published in various websites…
tv reviews, iPhone analysis, cruises, health supplements, credit card loans etc
The journo that looks like a 12 year old as King Eric likes to say!
Nice to see someone else pick Ole as Fergie’s best transfer. I know that Cantona, Keane and Ronaldo usually win that category, but for me it’s Solskjaer. You knew there was untapped potential in the other 3. Solskjaer was more difficult to locate and bring to the club. As for worst signing, sorry, but that’s premature on Bebe. I guess you could say Dong going by pure talent. Djemba Djemba too. However, I’ll be the cruel guy here and, as much as I love the guy, say that Seba was the worst signing. Maybe he would have turned it around if he stayed for another season, but the end product is 28 million spent and 2 relatively average seasons.
Watch it over and over fellas and never tire of it…..Save it and make it part of your daily ritual… Have to thank Costas again for it ….. Just look at his facial expressions
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm5w2r_stand-renamed-for-sir-alex-ferguson_sport
Balaji
Pleasure buddy, credit where its due and yes you are a fantastic writer
One more thing. I have to agree with him that there was probably some great acting involved when Fergie handled the Rooney situation. It’s not like him to show a weakness like that in public, unless he’s trying to pile the pressure on someone else. That’s what he did, and Mr Ambition was back to being Mr Rooney within a day. Well played.
Costas
I would add Shmikes to that list, him and Ole will always head the list of best ever signings…. Too many great ones to mention of course but for the sheer value for money…..Incredible
@Cedars
Schmeichel too. Although I believe he was a bit more famous than Ole when he signed, it still wasn’t a certainity that he would become a success. I agree that you can’t really narrow it down to one. And I know that nowdays people say Van Der Sar should have joined us sooner, but I remember the summer of 2005 and there was a LOT of sceptisism about that signing. From yours truly too. It was a gamble and it paid off in a huge way.
Ravel Morrison has withdrawn from the U19 international team.
I feel a shitstorm coming.
Costas
The goal keeping department is probably the only one the boss struggled with over the years… I mean we have had some jokers over the years, no denying that…. Taibi? ha!
Mind you whilst I accept that De Gea is our number one and rightly so, Lindegaard is starting to grow on me, more so from a personality point of view… The guy seems like the right fit and has a decent sense of humor too
Speaking of keepers that bloke at the Swans is decent (Cannot remember his name now that I am fully drugged)
Some of his saves at Shitfield were brilliant
Cedars – You mean Vorm? Top keeper.
Zelh
Ya that’s him, always knew it sounded like storm! hahahaha Top notch
Best Fergie signings I’ll put in order:
1.Cantona
2.Keane
3.Ole
It has to be King Eric imo. The others were top quality signings for United. The king though, was the catalyst for our first league title in 26 years. I know Fergie is on record as saying, we still would’ve won the league that season. I’m not so sure about that. Cantona seem to take the pressure off other players. Scored big goals in every season he played for us. The likes of big Pete, Ole and Keane made considerable contributions, but Eric was the man who started it all off. No question in mind….if Cantona had of played for United the season before….we’d of that league, instead of dirty Leeds!
Worst signing? I take Costas point about Veron being a expensive mistake. It didn’t work out for him at United. I wouldn’t say he’s the worst though. My vote would go to Kleberson, or the man so bad they named him twice!
Most frustrating player? It’s a tie between Anderson and Nani.
The most disappointing player under Fergie? Alan Smudger Smith. He came to us as a forward. The great man tried to change him to a CM. His career took a turn for the worse. I hope Fergie doesn’t make the same mistake with Rooney. Berbatov I hear some shouting in the background? Nah. His goals helped United to a record 19th title. Suck on that Berba haters!
Not a raging success our Berb. Not a flop either imho. 
Willie, I find John Terry to be the most frustrating player, mainly because of his failure to cease to exist.
On the subject of John terry, there’s stuff in the papers today about Anton Ferdinand being threatened. The police are looking into it.
Cedars @ 14:06: “Shannon was a football player, used to play for Southampton if I am not mistaken? Could not remember details at this stage to save my life”
I think you’re referring to MICK CHANNON, who played for Southampton in the early 70s – maybe before, maybe afterwards but I do remember him in the early 1970s. A tall, rangy striker with pretty good pace – a “poor man’s version” of Peter Osgoode or Martin Chivers
Evans is the most frustrating player that has ever played for fergie. I keep hoping for him and yet he somehow finds a way to let me down. I was so disappointed with him against city.
Danny i understand your frustartion,
but even after Evans gone, we were shit against city, we were not disciplined and the experince of rio and evra ould have done better but as boss put it we kept on attacking and thats our nature
lets not go back to the old shit again
the Evans lad will come good, as u said, your support is key,
we all need to get behind this lads and they will shine..
Ronnie has to be the best signing ever in terms of his contribution and how much the club made on him
Dennis Irwin was the least frustrating player, for me. Mr consistency.
Willie we must have the same thought process I kid you not I’m looking at the piece of paper I wrote on earlier and it goes:
1. Number Seven The King
2. Captain 16
3. 20 Legend
Worst player at United? Mikel of course he never kicked a ball for us and we still made a handsome profit – bloody marvellous!
Mick “Channon” was a footballer who played for Norwich .
and Southampton. Used to call Lineker “Lineacre”.
MG – :Snap! Great minds think alike.
I’ll go on a record and say that if Rio had seen red instead of Evans against City, United wouldn’t have conceded 6. (And no, I don’t mean we would have conceded more
)
@willie
Smith? A bit harsh imo. I won’t even bring up his injury as an excuse. Maybe I had low expectations of him, but I thought he did very well for us as a striker and a CM. Kleberson is a fair shout out though. Andy Goram too. Just because the lazy bastard wouldn’t pick up the phone to talk to Fergie.
If I have to be honest to myself, my two favorite signings under Sir Alex Ferguson would have to be Ruud Van Nistelrooy and Javier Hernandez. The former was signed just as I had fallen in love with United, and while his performances didn’t really coincide with the most successful phase in our history, he was abso-fricking-lutely prolific in those three phenomenal seasons with us. I don’t think his scoring rate has been matched or can ever be. (Don’t know whether this statistically correct, just looking at it from a naked eye.) He was one of the first people to show me the joy of simply scoring goals. Nothing fancy, no long-range shots, no impressive dribbling skills; just putting the ball in the fucking back of the net.
In case you don’t get where I am going with this, that is the same reason I love Hernandez to bits. People complain about other aspects of his game, and it is true that he can improve his all-around game more closely to match Ruud’s, but he can do one thing regularly and that is put the ball where it belongs. He would be an absolute beast of a player if he could time his runs better and just add a few more layers to his overall game.
As to most influential, that would be Eric Cantona, Roy Keane and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. I don’t think I need to explain myself as Willie and MG already have done that for me.
Worst signings would be Eric Djemba-Djemba (that one shot against the post was probably his best moment as a footballer in general
) and Kleberson (was supposed to bring samba magic to us which we missed out with Ronaldinho 
).
@ sandeep agreed i will continue to support the boy. He will come good just needs to weed out the occasional mistake or at least make the mistakes VERY scarce. He is a good defender.
Costas – The boss has to take some of the blame there mate. Smith was a promising striker at Leeds. Highly thought of in certain quarters. Maybe Fergie thought, he could do a job in midfield. That elusive replacement for Keane! I hope Rooney isn’t the next to go down that road. The good thing about that period. Once the boss realized that was a no go with Smith. We ended up signing Carrick. Yeah, the much maligned Micheal Carrick! Lol.
Thought after Utd missed out on Ronaldinho we ended up signing Ronnie instead
Sandeep … hey mate. on the writing stuff, I was a mainstream journo and editor for many years (oops, watch the hate mail come in now!), and then switched careers but still involved with writing in one form or another. What sort of help are you looking for? And where are you based? I probably can’t be of much help, but let’s check it out. I’m sure the others won’t mind if we bat a few off-topic posts back and forth between us.
Re-posting the reply from the other thread
@ Sandeep
No problems buddy…sent you a request on FB and sent it to Scott as well! Didn’t know Scott was there on FB…thought he was active on Twitter only!
never knew kleberson was bought cause we couldnt get ronaldinho..
thought it was ronaldo
rohan & wayne, I thought the sarcasm in my post was pretty obvious.
I never like that StatesideAussie.
JUST READ THIS…..
NOVEMBER 6, 2011 AT 19:43
CedarsDevil says:
TonyBee
We ALL spout shit here from time to time, yourself Goat and me included…….. He attacked the blog and the posters and I responded…. I do NOT want him to piss off, not my place to do so…
Stop fucking acting like a martyr trying to defend him
IN ANSWER…
I will stop acting the martyr (CHEEKY CUNT SAYING THAT) …… if you stop acting like you are the fucking RoM moderator …
we don’t need protecting ……
@ Prasan,
thanks for the friend request mate, i will approve in sometime as i m writing some articles..
@ StatesideAussie,
thanks for your reply buddy, much appreciated.
Even i do not like to be exchanging mails here and disturbing others because of me!!
If possible drop me an Email at sandeep.halagali@gmail.com and i will respond..
or drop me your Email Id here
and by the way, its not that urgent, so you need not have to consume your busy time.
we can go through it in your leisure and further we will discuss in the Emails if that is okay with you
Thanks again,
@ Willie,
I m gonna sue you, the other day you agreed with Cedars that no fuss about having a personal chat here..
i will sue you (Imagine it in Rocky Balboa style)..
one law for them and one law for us eh?
Until this moment i thought the only law we know is Dennis law
Kidding bud…:)
Repost!
hey cedars
saw your reply on other thread, yeah we do share a lot in common, I hope i also meet the great man just like you did
Worst senior signings:
Talabi, Djemba Djemba, Bosnich, Prunier
Worst moment:
Roy Keane bust up and 04-05 Champions league exit. United fans were eating their own young.
Thing Carrick and Fletcher still get crap from fans because of it.
@Balaji hi mate still early in Canada,i know Kleberson gets brought up alot as a bad signing but for me Utd only paid 6mill for him so he was more of a gamble that didn’t pay off.Didn’t come in as a elite signing earmarked to have a major impact on the team
TonyBee
Do piss off, you know whatever you will say I will always love you! I mean that….
I am no moderator of anything
Carrick hadn’t signed yet FletchTHEMAN. You must mean Smith?
Prasan,
I havent got your request yet mate
or are u Jim?
FletchTHEMAN
As far as Im aware Prunier was only a trial wasnt he. Boshnich was a great shot stopper equal to Tim Howard but he never matured to become a man and was too quiet and timid. Djemba Djemba was in my opinion doomed to failure because his close friend Foe pegged it and he could really never settle after that. Taibi, I have to agree was one out of the blue, Ill also admit I had never even heard of him before we signed him.
Wayneboy,
now that you are in Canada,
any whereabouts about the red named TorontoRed?
The love story of Cedars and TonyBee continues,
i request ROM to offer them freedom and privacy at once
Ancha
Cheers, I hope you do buddy!
Cedars you old tart hee hee
Evening Goat
Olive branch? Just as long as you do not want the entire Lebanese nation nuked in 10 minutes!
hahahaha
Watson
I kid you not in Melbourne on Collins Street they named a pub after us – The Sherlock Holmes
@Sandeep 1878 hi mate don’t know TorontoRed i live in Calgary i’m around 3,000kms away
Goat,
You might be right about Prunier, wiki lists him as “on trial” But he did play in at least 2 competitive matches that I recall, including an infamous 4-1? mauling by SPURS with him at the center of defense. I can imagine a trial allowing first team competitive action, but that is how it is worded on wiki.
Cheers
@ Sandeep
I already sent it mate…please check if you got it just now
In case you don’t get, could you please send a request on prasan.shirdhonkar ..that’s my FB id! Let me know then my friend! 
Willie, Smith as well, always liked him myself but he probably wasn’t ever going to be the next Scholes.
But I also think Carrick is looked at in the “not United quality” microscope that was the fall out of the Keane bustup. Coming in to help “fix” that perceived mess, at least for me.
Kind of think it would be deja vu all over again IF wayne had left (saying we hadn’t got quality) and IF we hadn’t won anything last year. Something to think on innit! Cheers.
“I am an offensive midfielder, a real 10. Setting up my team-mates, scoring and a good shot are my qualities,” – Andres Perreira
Link: http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/89865/default.aspx?
Willie Smith? An actor of sorts no?
FletchTHEMAN
I remember Prunier coming over and it was a trial. He wasnt too bad and if you play a team like Spurs where you try and outscore the opposition rather than keep it tight at the back you generally try and put pressure on the new kid or the weakest link. Prunier I remember loved to get forward but was an average passer (An older DeLaet). It was his lack of discipline that turned Sir Alexs nose away. But he wasnt intimidated as I recall. Had we have played a lesser attacking team then maybe we would have walked away with a clean sheet and all things would have been different. Such is life.
Goat
A second peace offering in case you missed the first……. I do not do thirds
now teach this Pereira kid to defend and he will be a fucking prototype of a box2box player.
Cedars
An olive branch is always offered by me however I cannot retract my desire to see The Lebanon nuked or any other Muslim country. I do appologise if that pains you but I am anti-islam. This is not racism as I have no issue with people born of a different ethnic group and born with things they have no control over. I do however have issues with people who CHOOSE their direction in life (religion or political orientation) and just like I can say All socialists are clueless bean flicking toss bags so I can say all Muslims are degenerate inbreeds. Im attacking the religion and culture NOT the colour of their skin.
To put your mind at ease and know who your talking too.
Prasan,
I added you mate, thanks.
You can add Jim as well from ROM, Jimit in my freind list
Cedars I do appologise for not answering your post first, I was having a FOOTBALL conversation and that takes preference over a “get to know you” topic.
Goat
Take it we are at talking terms again then eh? Just some facts for you buddy, Lebanon is a Christian run country, only one in this part of the world…. Personally I am a Catholic, just by birth mind you…. Only go to church for weddings and other bollocks as such…..
No doubt you have issues but you are also a red who’s posts I will forever enjoy. If we ever get nuked I just hope that I will have a minute to say farewell here! hahahah
@ Sandeep
Thanks to you too my friend..will add Jim as well!
@ Sandeep
Can’t find Jimit in your friend list…can you please help me with the name buddy?
Goat, Think you are pretty much out of order with the the Islam thing. Big diff with Islam and what you are calling “Islamist”. Pretty sure a sizable group of ROMsters are proper followers of Islam. Not myself, as i am a card carrying atheist who nevertheless loves to toss in the occasional reference to my monotheistic upbringing.
A similar analogy is feminine and feminist. You probably don’t know a lass that isn’t feminist when it comes to her paycheck and right to get the boss out of her hair. Think you might just reconsider that being Islamic produces loads of right minded family sorts at university and community.
It’s a mark of Fergie’s genius that there’s an extremely long and high quality list of great signings, and only a very short list of howlers. My personal favorite signing was Cantona but if I had to mount an objective argument, it would be hard to go past CR7. It could be counter-argued that CR7 was always destined for greatness — that one doesn’t become world player of the year unless one has “that something extra” anyway. But I think CR7 acknowledges the role SAF had on his career. SAF took a massive gamble on him when he was but a youngster (who had already been scouted and rejected by the dippers). And it is easy to forget that in his early years with us, he was widely considered a showboating pony who liked to fall over, and whose endless stepovers may have been amusing but were not very effective. If anyone had predicted, in his first two seasons with us, that in a few short years he would scale the highest peaks and be sold for a world record 80 million, they’d have been laughed out of town. Yet through it all, SAF continued to have faith — he saw what the rest of us missed, stuck by CR7, encouraged him, and got him to channel and focus his talents the right way … and the rest, as they say, is history.
FletchTHEMAN
Goat is always out of order so what’s new? Ignorant as fuck too….. Still I made my peace with him
ON THIS DAY: In 1993, Roy Keane scored a late winner at Maine Road, as Man Utd came from 2 goals down at half time to beat ManCity.
32 – Sir Alex has given 32 different players time on the pitch this season, already the same number that played in 2010/11. Rotate.
Get in there Keano!! Pour it on those blue bastards!!!
FletchTHEMAN
Its a political belief of mine and no doubt will get me into trouble with htose who believe violence is a way of disagreeing with anothers belief. But thats not for me to decide. You have me wrong as well. I didnt mention Islamist as being the same as Islam. I DONT CARE about the differences as I dont care abouth the differences between protestant and Catholic of which countless will say there are many. ALL religion in my book is corrupt and evil. Non more so than a religion based on a prophet who was a murderous war lord and pedophile. Read the Quran if you dont believe me.
I dont have such issues with Christianity as Jesus (their profit) said no to a whore and made clogs and cartwheels. Not quite the same thing. I will also add that I believe the supporters of Michael Jackson are equally repugnant and as for Mohammed AlFAyeed dont get me fucking started.
Goat
You are and in all honesty retarded to the bone, a brain smaller then a hamster no doubt….
But I have no issues with you…. We made peace after all no?
Oh dear Goat
Though I do not practice the aforementioned religion mentioned – I am part and parcel of that world that you despise for whatever reason which is your choice wholeheartedly
I can officially tell you that I’m not a degenerate inbreed – I can also assure you I really couldn’t give a fuck about religion – and I can absolutely categorically say that I’m also tired of the way that the religion is portrayed – their are many of us who just want to live and let live – unfortunately it seems not the case.
Feel free to say what you want to say but like I said I hold no point of call on religion. But I’m not less of a person just because I was born into a way of life you or others may resent – and as mentioned you are entitled to that for whatever reason.
And no I ain’t bringing nothing up – I really just don’t care any more I have much more better things to do then do the religious twist.
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On this day in 2011, True reds Sandeep and Jim became friends with another red Prasan on FB!
Cedars
The Lebanon issue if it is at all important, as I take very little to no time out of my daily thinking about anything that happens south of Lizard Point unless I have to fight it, is a little bit more complicated than saying its a christian run country as you will no doubt agree. Its all the old Palestinian bloody area that I wish Britain had fuck all to do with in the first place, and its full of misserbale backbiting shit heads that cant, just like you do in here, get on with every day life without being overly engrossed in political affairs that they know fuck all about. Except they will say they know all about it as they are at the front line (bites knuckles and hhhnnnnggggs, hold backs a tear).
I couldnt give a fuck. I do like Lebanese pastry though.
Easy Goat,
no hard feelings,
peace and pact..
religion a strict no no..
one thing that unites is UNITED and lets keep it that way folks,
sorry if it caused hurt, my interefernce i mean.
Cedars,
Cut it short my good friend,
any discussion in that regard will hit a dead end,
save your time and wisdom,
I know you will, cheers.
@ Prasan,
on this day……Lol, very funny
Cedars is very difficult toi have peace with someone who challenges my view, if thats what you are doing, by simply insulting me and not actually commenting about any one part to my post. Cameron stands up and says something, I dont think Milliband would get much respect if his answer to Camerons statement would be “your so retarded you have a mouses brain”. Somewhat pathetic. I do however vale MG’s and Fletches input as they have atleast made the bloody effort.
Peace with you, couldnt care less, all I know is Im not at war.
Hello RoM!!!
Good to see MG back from holiday.
SAF filling the pipe line with young talent. 15 year old top CM.
@1878 you go man, Stateside will help and I’m sure MG as well, networking as your doing is awesome.
To help market yourself. compile a email thank you for all the work you have done in the past and remind them you are in the business still and when this type of work comes up again just call and that problem will be solved. Then send email reminders every 90 days. Just an update 1878 Inc is going strong. Looking forward to a continued business partnership in the future handling any and all your______ needs. So when this situation comes up again consider it handled.
People have problems, be there problem solver.
Sandeep1878
Thanks for your post and my remarks are not meant to be directed at any individual to insult. Im a goat and if you ask a question or pull at my lead then I respond by pulling in the opposite direction. For as long as there is a man who questions there will be goat the antogonist. Its the rules, it just is.
Zibbie
MG is glad to be back from the other side of the world
MG
As I wrote to Sandeep mate. I have no issue with individuals. I do have an issue with a certain religion that I see as based on quite alot of repugnant beliefs/followings/statements. The agression which would be my choosing, given the choice, is aimed at the group that is not the individuals. The individuals are just casualties of said action.
For instance I fully support the war against Germany in the second world war. I cannot name an individual I would have or even my grand father would have had an issue with. No names spring to mind other than the obvious. But as a collective I, had I have been alive, would have been at war with. The individual is just an innocent or deluded pawn in the game of life. I would have no joy killing my enemy and I would weep for the loss of a mothers son, but I wouldnt hesitate pulling the trigger. So MG if you are a muslim, I have no personal issue with you, I do with your geographical possition and the decissions by those who run your lifestyle.
Wow I can not believe GOAT has not posted as of late? Thought after the 3rd time saying he would never come back and he wanted to nuke all not like him, he would show up with some piss filled rants, guess I was wrong and he got a mental heath check up and he was checked in.
MG another writer in 1878,
I heard tid bits of your holiday, the people get married OK?
Zibbie
I thought a degenerate roody poo such as yourself shouldnt bully someone off the blog which he loves so much with your piss filled bean flicking socialist rants. As far as Im concerned you are one individual I fucking despise and give the chance I would slice you up with an insulation knife. You can take that to the fucking bank pal.
hahahahahahahahahaheheehehheheheheeheh
They, them, those guy’s have picked 10,31,2011 as the day the world now has 7 billion people.
@Stateside loved the CR7 post.
Ding ding!
3 billion in 1960, 4 billion in 1974, now 7 BILLION PEOPLE!
Wolfie, I’m so surprised we have not seen GOAT?!? Like herpes he will show up again. He hates it here but can not leave.
It’s all getting Edgar Allan Poe.
Anyway back to football.
Whats the news. I see we have agreed to sign a 15 year old and he seems to have some self belief. Any good, I certainly dont get the chance to see teenage boys run around in Holland. Anyone more in tune with a certain pudgy ex glam rock star.
Willie looks like another talented teen is on his way to the Academy.
Rooney with no England duty is a plus.
TC 2 more weeks to heal correct! Carrick as well. The next 10 games looked a bit easier before Newcastle looked so good. Time to go on a run.
Zibbie
We dnt want to know what filthy deseases you have. Use clean running water to wash, stop shagging strays and generally just clean up your candy arse roody poo ways. You sicken me. Ex psychiatrist = ex prawn sandwich brigade.
He glitters the room, when he enters.
Zibbie,
thank you mate,
as i said dont put me in that MG and stateaiseAussie bracket,
as i already told they are far more classy..
what i write is just what you google, for example,
The best cruises in USA…
then a certain article of mine will pop up..
but it will be in some other’s name or under some other publisher,
because i work for company named IMPACT in Bangalore which has clients in USA, UK and OZ..
articles ranging from 300 words to 1000 words on any topic, right from health supplements to Boston tickets to sex to cigars to hotels to holiday destinations..
thats what we call content and article writing..
but the above mentioned writers are main stream..
hope u got it mate?
but again thanks for advice which i will keep in mind and keep in touch with others as well..
@ Goat,
no issues pal but we all are better off without it anyway..
all is fine..
cheers
Ravens are smart birds.
I saw Ziggy star dust on hollows eve.
Goat
But then you should be wiser
Those that perpetuate hatred do so because they delude themselves – you know of say the Islam that they have been re writing let’s say for arguments sake since 9/11. The biggest terrorists in the world – the Saudis have constantly gotten away with daylight robbery and murder because of their unique position of being in bed with Christian America yet in the same breath they have been re-writing the Quran to make their own ends meet.
You would not know of this because it’s not easy to see when the Saudis and the Americans would just want you to believe in what they would like you to believe.
The common perception of people is to see only what they can rebel against or fearing failure within the norm to not believe in anything else that might show them another way the way I am trying to do here.
It is wrong of you to accept that I am burdened or in a shadow because of a geographical position or much worse your understanding that I am run by people who make decisions for me – in both aspects you are off the mark and you know this because the way I handle myself and address myself on here shows otherwise to the way you have put it.
I am bigger than this which breaks the theory you have put forward – I am not formed into any mould – I am who I am I cannot change this but I see what others do not – and I understand what others do not – that literally people have taken this religion and seriously fucked it to make it conform to their warped view on the world.
A part of me sighs at all of this – a part of me doesn’t care anymore. I am a father and that is one more thing than religion – I am a writer and that is one more thing than religion – I am a Manchester United and that is one more than than religion.
I can’t and won’t change your mind – but you need to know that if you believe that I am conditioned then forget it – I’ll prove it otherwise to my dying day and equally show you that their are many like me fed up with the way that no news regarding the world in which we Iive in has become too much news.
And here I will close this for you.
In essence I don’t want to preach to anyone about Manchester United. It is not for me to teach anyone about this club. I only want this club for myself or to share it with my fellow Reds.
That’s all – now just change United to the aforementioned religion and you should understand that I am the captain of my ship – no one will tell me how to run it – I know exactly what I’m doing – and I can tell you without doubt that if you believe I am some poor bastards sounding board that’s going to soak up whatever brainwash bullshit that may be heading my way, you’re wrong.
You therefore know this anyone – without the context of religion I have always showed it to you talking about United.
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Yeah, its nice to see some uniteds fan insult other peoples religion! Nice, eh? Firstly you insulted people on here by saying they’re talking bollocks caused they had conversation about origins, foods, etc, instead of just talking football. And you came here & spoilled non-sense of your hatred to a religion. You do really gave a bad name to another supporters & the club as an great institution.
You better fuck off to another site you rat ass!!!
Religion talk should take a back seat on here.
To the back of the bus please.
Willie:
YEAH, you should said that to goat..
MG
I didnt make myself as clear as maybe I could have. I do not believe in any way you are pre programmed or conditioned as you put it. But you have to agree we are all governed by what we can get our hands on (information), who we choose to be our friends etc. Im not pro or anti america and do not talk for them nor care much for their opinion. If a choice has to be made about a specific issue then I will make my choice based on what information I have available to me (thats all we can ever do) but the choice of information available does limit us to our perception or knowledge about anything, and geography and history plays a part in that whether we like it or not.
I do not think in any way you are ignorant. A sheep, naive or anything with negative conitations and I have no beef with you. My point was solely I am not against the individual but against the mass. I too fall under that categorie as whoever chooses to be anti-british by proxy chooses to be anti-me (anti-goat for my alter ego) and by that I am happy. I may disagree with the policy that pits me against my enemy but I have all the faith in the world that my enemy will try and split my temple with a 5.56mm round.
There was no part in my message that wanted to make you feel anything other than you deem yourself to be.
@Willie my dad in 1940 in the summer he worked outside with concrete in Minneapolis and was way dark and tanned Italian. He gets on a city bus the driver tells him to get to the back of the bus. My dad says why? The driver says all Negros have to sit in the back. My dad said, I’m not Negro I’m Italian. The drivers says in that case get off the bus. My dad knocked him OUT!
TheCANTONA
That’s not where I’m taking this conversation – and Goat knows that – you are of course entitled to your opinion like Goat is his – and whatever I respect that
The thing is you get to a certain point in your life like I am now and you know that despite everything around you – we are still United
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Everyone has to talk in the end – if no one believes me go back into history and every single war or fight has ended in dialogue
Thus I rest my case
Goat
I appreciate that – we are where we always were
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I’m with Willie. Point me at any group of people who are defined by a common attribute — their religion, their politics, skin color, language, what car they drive, the football club they support, the music they listen to, their beliefs on global warming — and I guarantee I can find at least one cunt among them. Zibbie said there are 7 billion people on the planet, but he’s wrong, because if you subtracted out all the cunts from that number, there wouldn’t be anywhere close to 7 billion people left — but so what? It’s not what I come here to talk about. One of my main reasons for coming here is to get away from that shit, to be honest.
The Goats a dog chasing paper in the wind. Leave him to it. If you respond to him, he’ll give you it back. Simple as that. Yeah, some of his views are border line. It’s not my blog though.
Only one religion should be up for discussion on here. I dont need to spell it out.
Chill fellow reds. Save your scorn for KGB Liiverstool and arabian shites
TheCANTONA
I was asked the question, I responded. I then asked to talk football and then I got more questions.
If you cant be bothered to read the whole thread then dont reply. Its moronic and makes you look a cunt.
P.S having a name like TheCANTONA doesnt mean what you have to say has any more weight to it just because you leach on another persons success.
And insulting a religion is not taboo, as it is not insulting to insult another person political persuasion or choice of clothing or what they like to watch on the box. Its each to his own.
rednut. well said. the trick is to disengage.
Well it is 4:20 somewhere.
Zibbie – Great story mate! A different time, eh?
I’m with that Aussie bloke – especially since I was in his country for a week
@mg:
Sure, everyones entitled to their own opinion but seriously you know what border to stop.
ROM was so popular on WWW, it got much attention from many supporter (not only United but also bitters, dippers, arse, etc) if goat was a dippers, renties, the scums, bitters fan or John Terry, we would’ve had him crucified for his rasict comment on here. We all have soft spot on him only bcause he’s united fan, which is truly disgusting. Its really gave bad name to this great site & Man United.
Willie
Your spot on. I just believe if your asked a question and you are of the ilk that your prepared to answer anything then it is only polite to answer than person. Even if the answer is not what the other person had planned on hearing.
Ive said my piece on it and I hope no one is unduely offended as I have no quarms with any individual on here except Zibbie.
I wasnt great, i used this name bcause i love the guy to bits & always grateful for what has he done to our team. At least i didnt used some animals name & make it as a reason to cover if i talking bollocks…
Wow way different. My dad said in the Marines in WWII was the first time he was treated as an equal, my Irish side came on boats around the turn of the century.
Pop’s had a 180+ IQ went to officer training came out a Captain. He was fluent in Italian, French and English knew a little of 5 more languages, he grew up in an a mining town in Northern Minnesota with emigrants. He was a translator for big time Generals in England for 2 years, was at D-Day as a captain of a troop transport ship. Saw duty in the Pacific as well. His 11th grade science teacher was John Blatnic ? Spelling he helped him get elected to congress and he was a part of the beginning of the NSA.
Time to go earn money. Willie to see what you have growing up, wow. Glad a stray bullet never got you.
Zibbie is and will be here.
Absolutely loved this post STR top reading and a great view from Taylor, he is only one of the united journo’s that I like!
Goat
You are just ignorant and I pity you…. Lebanon is just Palestine? hahahaha
You have no clue about anything it seems
A man who obviously bases his views from news sources such as CNN etc, never been more than 2 miles away from his own house and yet thinks he is fit to make judgments about other people and cultures and religions…. Probably thinks the world is flat as well
That was for you Goat
you do really need medical treatment & maybe go out for a while. Go to another place far far away from your country, perhaps it could refresh your own mind (Seriously)
Goat
I was genuinely honest when I offered my olive branch, but in all honesty you do not deserve it…… My respect has to be fucking earned and it seems you will never earn it…
Not that you would give a fuck I am sure
Zibbie – To be fair, your old man had the right to knock him out! Lol.
I need medical treatment and I’m married to a Doctor!
Damn the irony
Can we park the politics and don’t add to it? Loads of top reds are leaving this site because of nonsense like above.
MG
I am sure a gentle kiss from the Mrs would work wonders!
Giggs12Gerrard0
I agree but if you allow shit to just flow it will overrun you….. at some stage you have to turn the hose pipes and wash it away
MG:
You’re merried to a doctor? Maybe thats the reason you’re so wise & cold-headed on this site.
Good for you then!
@TheCantona,
“MG:
You’re married? Maybe thats the reason you’re so wise & cold-headed on this site. Good for you then!”
Corrected for your benefit.
(No offense to anyone obviously.)
Cedars
TheCANTONA – Balaji
not the best time in ROM to say,
good night lovely RED DEVILS around the world,
catch u all in 7 hour’s time..
cheers
Merried and Married
MG — I hope you enjoyed your week in Oz. Might be heading back there myself soon!
@balaji&mg:
Sorry, still learning my english ^^
MG – No need to details on that! hahaha
Balaji – If marriage makes us wiser I would have been a genius by now, turns out it made me into a dumb fuck! hahahaha
MG,
try anasthesia, it works wonders
Good night ROM
Evening Stateside or afternoon in your part of the world
Lucky you but boy was it expensive down there! Better give them some economic lessons – strong dollar no no bad for tourism
Marriage is the road to ruin. Or is that debt?
Goodnight Sandeep!
Cedars – I assure you no more details
TheCANTONA – no sweat
BAck from my tea, sorry the lack of responses.
Cedars I said to you that Lebanon was just Palestine, or something along those lines. I was trying to think what the area was formely known as when it was under British mandate as was most of Iraq etc etc. I didnt think it was Palestine just couldnt remember for the life of me what we called the area. No doubt you can tell me. About your olive branch your right i dont give a fuck as Im sure your not either. Im not so lonely that I need the approval of some internet chat room numpty to make me feel I have friends and my life complete. Nor do I formulate my opinions on subjects to appease other peoples ears.
TheCANTONA
I live abroad mate, if that helps with your opinion of me. Ive given it a go. Lived here in sweden for 15 fucking years. And it blows. It blows chunks.
Now can we have peace. Im not interested talking politics or sharing opinions when my only rebuttle from you is insults. Im beyond that as I hope alot of you are.
Still learning my english but thanks god, you understand & trying to make fun from it. seriously, marriage made some men more wiser, in case you find the “perfect” women BUT of course not every marriage though…
Marriage is the road to something Willie
TheCANTONA
I’m not making it fun of it as in per se – just enjoying the friendly chit chat
It’s all good stuff
They say behind every good man is a good woman.
Im a cunt……………………………..so………………
answers on a post card please
Goat
Your exclusively different but not a cunt
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MG
I think others would disagree with you there mate, lol
Goat:
yes, lets have a peace. But PLEASE take my last comment for you as a nice little advice instead an insult.
I mean you can take a holiday & go abroad to some moslems country like Indonesia (a country in southeast asia), they’ll treat you very very kindly, hell! they always smilling.
So perhaps, (just perhaps) it could change your view of islam/moslems. Cheers…
Oh, they also have Bali.. Nice beaches, nice weather, foods & some hot local chicks too…
TheCANTONA
I hear what your saying but maybe you missed the point of my argument. I have absolutely no doubt that should I travel to Indonesia or wherever you mention that I would be treated well. Its not how the individual adopts the religion or the beliefs of its state rather how the collective are seen to be manipulating such beliefs. For instance I know quite a few Iranians and they are good people by and large, hard workers and family people but Iran is a fucking cock hole and its leaders are dark evil manipulating bastards prepared to use its people as pawns in some sick game. Its that that makes me have to talk out against them. And as you no doubt have witnessed when someone talks out against your nation then you close ranks and rebuff accusations and retaliate. Then the people become the nation and no longer individuals. Then in that mood the individual isnt as pleasant. I find that Islam has been manipulated to become a tool of east v west not so dissimilar to capitalist communist. As I said the person is fine as long as its family first, peace first but when states are brought into it as a collective then its war.
Hope Ive made that clear to you friend.
Goat
You may be many things but a cunt you are NOT …… Never have I thrown abuse at you and nor will I ever
Goat
Come to think of it, you would make a list of those who post on RoM that I will actually enjoy having a drink with….. Some chat that would be
I will unleash hell of huge proportions on anyone trying to come between me and Goat, this is our issue and we will eventually work it out….
Trust me, I am just as weird as he is
Goat
The Brits were never in Lebanon, we had the bloody French of whom we got independence in 43…
Great Britain? The Empire that never saw the sunset eh? My ass….. Back to fishing trout for a living!
hahahaha
Damn I think I truly like you……What a piss take of a get together it would be
TheCantona, I was not actually trying to correct your English my friend. I simply removed “the doctor” part to emphasize that marriage makes a man wiser because of its inherent difficulties. Of course, I was merely trying to be sarcastic anyways.
November 7, 2011 at 17:45
CedarsDevil says:
Goat
A second peace offering in case you missed the first……. I do not do thirds
Whats this peace with a time restriction because I didnt answer your post first?
November 7, 2011 at 18:04
CedarsDevil says:
FletchTHEMAN
Goat is always out of order so what’s new? Ignorant as fuck too….. Still I made my peace with him
Some peace!
November 7, 2011 at 18:13
CedarsDevil says:
Goat
You are and in all honesty retarded to the bone, a brain smaller then a hamster no doubt….
But I have no issues with you…. We made peace after all no?
Are you retarded? Insult then claim peace? And you have the nerve to call me psychologically disturbed. These post display serious Schizoid and Schizophrenic characteristics, ask Zibbie about that.
November 7, 2011 at 19:42
CedarsDevil says:
Goat
You are just ignorant and I pity you…. Lebanon is just Palestine? hahahaha
You have no clue about anything it seems
Again taking one small peice of imformation, twist it and then loudly make fun of it to bully a point (however minimal) across instead of entering into dialogue about the text itself. Which unfortunately you dont have the will to go into.
November 7, 2011 at 19:47
CedarsDevil says:
A man who obviously bases his views from news sources such as CNN etc, never been more than 2 miles away from his own house and yet thinks he is fit to make judgments about other people and cultures and religions…. Probably thinks the world is flat as well
That was for you Goat
Of course your right, you have never insulted me.
Those that make the effort to read and try to understand my posts get me and what I try and say. And then there are those that say things waiting for a response manufactured by the question itself and then set about that person with the answer thats given. Pure journalistic class.
Goat
I am retarded, that’s a fact….. You are ignorant, that is also a fact….
I like you, that is a fact, would love to meet you one day another fact….
Capiche?
Plus you have collectively insulted people in a far worse manner that I did you….. I will reiterate that I like you, I truly do……. Drinks on me
Goat
Did I have you believe just for a single second? Trust me I am the ultimate freak of nature, did you believe that I would ever want to meet you? A person who says he would not give a shit if my whole nation including all I loved got nuked? Think I will ever forgive you for that comment?
Piss off, I know your type…. Been there seen that
I wish I could say the feeling was mutual, sorry if that offends. I would prefer if this blog didnt get turned into a tit for tat slanging match between two incompatibles.
Mutual my ass, if you believed for a second that I like you than you are a bigger fool that I thought…. Just read my previous post
4 Indians and a Greek now have private convos in the comments section of the once mighty RoM you guys have killed it
Everyone has left
Devil Is Red 19
I do appologise and would like it to stop. You are right I want the oldies back but how to get in touch and get them back, thats the problem. I just hope some are listening and hopefully things will die down so they feel that they can come back.
Not the same, I would concede. Costas is a fine poster though. As for our multicultural guests? Manchester United attracts all kind of people. From every part of the globe. I don’t think it matters, where you come from. We all have one thing in common. Our love for United. And, our hatred for Liverpool! Wee City could rival that hatred in a few years time.
Devil Is Red 19
4 Indians and a Greek? Forgot to add 2 or 3 Lebanese to that list…… What a stupid cunting fucked up post of the highest order…..
Where the fuck are you from? Manchester? Salford?
Would be great if you left
Devil Is Red 19
As you leave make sure you take a goat with you….. Just be careful as they are climbers and tend to jump up on some nasty bushes so you could very well hurt your ass if the said goat was on a leash
If ignorance hurt I would be in so much more pain than I am right now …….
Meant ignorance from others of course! hahaha Guess I am also an ignorant bastard
Shush you!
Willie
Really? Is that all you have to say, Costas is a fine poster? hahahaha
The guy has an obvious racial attack for fucks sake…..
Am I the only one left with some sanity or have I totally lost my mind?
Shush your face hahahaha
4 Indians and a Greek? That sounds like the beginning of an anecdote. I think I might have heard of it. The end is something along the lines of those 5 gangraping the racist Facebook warrior.
Maybe the “mighty ROM” would be in better shape if some commented on football and didn’t just bitch about who hangs out with whom in here. Just saying.
4 Indians and a Greek
Fucking made me sick to the bone that comment
Cedars – You fucking what? Racial slurs! Tell me where they live and I’ll send over the SAS!
I could just picture Goat and Devil Is Red 19 having a nice picnic wearing their white masks singing their KKK songs to the burning cross
Willie
Ha? Was no dig at you fool….. Read back my love
Willie
Misread your post! I am such a fool
How many people jumped in, and told Goat off about his comments earlier on? A handful, at best. Don’t fixate me on Cedars. IMO, loads of posters on here are scared to say anything to Goat. They have this impression of him. Big bad Goat. There’s been plenty of disgusting comments on this blog. Many of which, go without a response. You have to wonder how they get through.
No fuck that Cedars. Outside now ya SOB! Lol.
Thanks to willie for the compliment by the way.
As for the many different nationalities posting at this blog, I think 99 out of 100 members here are fine with that. And I feel that Goat falls in that category. Don’t see the big deal either way. A global fanbase is only healthy.
Willie
Back on topic, make mine MI5 any day of the week, the SAS are a bunch of sissies!
As for the Goat, creep of the highest order….. does not even begin to scare my little toe
Took the bugger for a ride then thrashed him….
Costas
No he is not ok with it
MI5 are ladies. Nothing but blurt there.
When Zibbie had his issue with that idiot about the word nigger all off us stood watching…… If anyone with half a brain cannot see that the poster Goat is a racist than they are blind
MI5 is where Bond came from, cannot beat that!
@Cedars
Don’t want to speak on anyone’s behalf or comment on Goat’s general views on other cultures. I don’t have all the facts, so I’ll probably misjudge him. However, I never got the impression that it annoys him that folks outside the UK post here or support Man United. So in that sense, I’d say he’s nothing like the Facebook warrior.
Bond is a cunt. Borne now?
Costas
I will leave you to build your own impression without any influence from me….. I have read far too much crap from him to know that he is a racist of the highest order…. Way beyond funny or winding up. The guy has serious religious and cultural issues that its not even funny….. Also ignorant as fuck
Bond can piss on Borne while blind folded with a Martini in his hand!
Cyril Sneer > Austin Powers (yeah baby!) > James Bond
G’night yalls.
SAS? Sutton and Shearer? Bunch of wankers.
Bond and Borne can’t lace Indiana Jones’ shoes. 
@Cedars
You may be right mate. Like I said, I don’t know the full story. When these arguements take place, I tend to skip them. I have enough tension in my life as it is. I am not giving anyone a free pass of course, but I’ll leave it those personally offended, as well as the moderator of this blog, to take care of it better than I can. Now if someone insults Greece, then I’ll talk.
Costas
Well he wanted Lebanon nuked! How do you think I feel? haha
Indiana Jones eh? Damn that is a tough call… Make mine a Bond though only of its Connery
To correct, he said he would not give a shit if we were nuked, just for the record…..
Arm wrestle him. Whoever wins….gets a free day out at Butlins.
Arm wrestle who? 6’4 here standing at millions of kilos hahahaha…. Might be in my mid mid 40′s but one grab and he’ll fly out the window from my fourth floor! hahahaha
Actually for the ladies reading this, I have quite a decent physic….Just 98 kilos to be precise
I heard he’s 7.5. And two horns on his head.
I’ve got 9 inches all round.
Willie
Hahahaha merci very much for cracking my kidneys up
Its sad that you like to talk behind someones back and call them names when you think theyve packed up for the night. Im not a racist. A racist is someone who doesnt tolerate another RACE of people. People born into a specific racial model, i.e Blacks, Asian, Inuit etc. I have absolutely no issue with said people as alot of my friend who are Black Asian will testify. I grew up in Slough and Bracknell and all my dads friends where Black. As for where a Manchester United fan comes from you should look at my earlier posts from a year or two back when I fought in their corner shouting down die hard manc fans for being two faced and against anyone who wasnt from Manchester. I thought it was unsincere to take the fan base moneyh from afar and build a squad of players from all corners of the globe only to slag said fans of for not being born in the right place.
Its sad a few of you are attacking me for a few comments deliberately misread and purposely exploited for some strange witch hunt so as to fill your otherwise pathetic day.
Goat
Who the fuck are you trying to fool? You do not tolerate Muslims, Arabs and God knows who else…… Besides how on earth would we know if you’re not watching….. Talking behind your back? hahaha
Sing a different tune buddy, well and truly sussed
By the way, try and write longer posts next time it would make you look even more pathetic
Wasn’t it Connery who said that James Bond was the sort of guy he’d like to punch in the nose? Something like that. Daniel Craig’s OK as Bond, though.
Must be burning your heart that the blog now is full of Indians and Greeks eh? Wish they were all Brits no doubt!
Cedars Muslims are not a race. They are a group of people tied to a belief. They are not born Muslim, they are born in a muslim community. A muslim can choose to break from his religion whenever he/she wants. Its as if you are born into a political party because of your parents. You have the ability to choose to say no. Racism is where you are born with a particular ethnicisity, born with dark skin or asian features. You cannot one day wake up and decide youve had enough and change. And thats were biggotry is wrong.
Like you can take the piss out of a republican, or a christian or a liverpool fan or a city fan so you can take the piss out of the muslim. Because he CAN change.
And why do you always answer with rude personal attacks are you 12
StatesideAussie
Daniel Craig? na, he ruined the Bond tradition for me….. Connery all the way, hairy chest and all! haha
Goat
Whatever, keep writing trying to hide and justify your hateful nature…. I am actually 13
It wasnt me who said anything about Indians and Greeks. I dont have many Indian friends to my loss but I have a greek friend and am welcomed into their family. I even have a greek name for fuck sake.
Why the need to completely miss quote and attack with insults all the time. IO have no doubt the neutral on here is aware of your stupidity and insecurities so its best for everyone, especially this blog if you just stop. For the fellow fans.
“whatever” – great comeback.
I know you it was not you who said the Indian & Greek thing, but you went along with it no?
Trust me at some level I feel sorry for you, you are so ignorant you have no idea
Do come back tomorrow and write 5 paragraphs trying to convince us all that you are swell and that you were attacked….. Some may believe you
Comebacks? hahaha I do not do those, I just get under you skin and irritate the life out of you
I didnt go along with it, you quote me on one comment where I even recognised that the post excisted before you just brought it up.
If you cant quote me then you are lying.
Im not saying Im swell, as you put it, some people may even call me a wanker and mean it from the bottom of their hearts BUT let me see one quote where my post is racist, the damning post where Im being judged and we’ll see who is the biggot.
Do you actually reckon you are irritating the life out of me. I find it rather amusing. It gives me a vast sense of superiority when someone from the Lebanon who no doubt boos and cries and tells the world in his own little way how hard done by he is from Britain, the US and Israels actions. Comes on here leaching another countries culture just to find a political platform to worm his way into the effections of people from the same area and religion to make a stronghold to attack the blog hes hijacked. Its sad very sad. Im not irritated Im superior.
Well I have to piss off and go to bed, partly medication and the fact that it is just after 4 am here, not that you would have a clue where here is….. Keep writing away Goat… Just make sure they are long posts though…
Good night
Oh, given me a bit of amo before I hit the hay…. The part of Lebanon I am from are actually close allies to the US and UK, just further proof of your complete and utter ignorance…..
You superior? In what sense exactly? hahaha such ignorance, you have no idea
How would I know in advance from which part of Lebanon you come from, whether you ride a camel side sadle or whether you fuck it for quarters I couldnt tell via this blog. I would say good night but I might put a jinx on that stray Israeli shell. Heres hoping.
No wonder people stop posting in this blog, geez.
In remembrance
Ali!
Frazier!
Frazier!
Ali!
Ali!
Frazier!
Just need a little bit help here. I´ve “forgot” about these 2 things that´s mentioned in the interview:
Could someone please explain please?
1. “City definitely thought they had got him through the Marwood-Stretford connection”
Marwood, who´s he and whats the connection with Stretford?
2. “There was the Roy Keane thing, ‘Play the Pundit,’ the fall-out, Keane being booted out, that night in Paris when the fans were turning on the players”
What happened in Paris and when?
Thanks lads, would be much appreciated with a little bit help
steig – Marwood is currently with City. He’s their scout, I think? He must have some connection with Rooney’s agent, Stretford. I don’t know too much about, though. Keane was very critical of players performance after a 4 1 defeat against Middlesbrough in 05/06 season. The game we played in Paris was against Lille, if my memory is correct. It was a poor performance. We lost 1 0. It was uncertain times under Fergie. We crashed out of the group stages of the champions league. Little did people know, the great man was in the process of building another top squad. There’s always a few bumps on the way though lol.
‘Rooney’s camp made blunder after blunder and, in the end, I think he lost his nerve. Yes, he got his pay rise, but I don’t go with the theory that it was all a stunt to get more money. City definitely thought they had got him through the Marwood-Stretford connection. “The perfect signing – strengthen yourself, weaken your opponent” – that’s how they put it.’
I can’t be the only one that zoned in on this, that why I thought Tevez threw a hissy fit because they didn’t get Rooney.
Good interview, really enjoyable read.
Evening fellow Reds
I had taken my bath and was prepared to go see my girlfriend, so i called her to let her know i was coming to see her only to be told “i want to be alone tonight, sorry”.
with deep anger and disappointment, i logged in to RoM to lighten up and you guys have lifted my spirit up with your comments, thanks RoM.
Sorry for the personal stuff.
Tannor- love is fickle except for the love of ones child and ones football club