Manchester United have today confirmed that Danny Welbeck has signed a four-year extension at the club to keep him with us until at least 2016.
“Playing for United is all I’ve ever wanted to do – it’s the club I’ve supported all my life,” he told the official site. “I can’t wait for the challenge of the new season to play my part in helping the team compete for trophies. I’m learning all the time from the best manager in the game and I’m keen for that to continue alongside the world class players in the squad.”
Sir Alex Ferguson reflected on Danny’s career so far but reckons we have plenty more to look forward to.
“Danny has been with the club since he was eight years old and has made fantastic progress in the last couple of years – first out on loan and last year as a regular in the first team,” the manager said. “He has become an important player at international level as well, as the maturity of his performances at the European Championships showed. This year is another important one for him. He has a bright future ahead of him.”
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Why hasn’t some numpty written first yet?
Secondly well done Welbz…!
First, happy about this.
I’m suprised the virus hasn’t tried to sign him yer
*yet
Alphars – probably because you’ve basically just done the same thing.
Great for Welbz and great for the club. Not an easy attack to play into but he’s getting better all the time.
Got to say, looking at the players we’ve got assembled this season, I’m seriously impressed. Defenders are going to shit bricks. I don’t even mind that we lost the first game, fuck it, how good do the new lads look? Shinji Kagawa’s performance on his debut was a gigantic silver lining.
We could be seeing a properly great United squad developing here. And Welbeck will be a big part of that.
RVP will be starting ahead of everone this season.
Nice, Danny a MUFC guy!
About bloody time! Nice one Danny.
regarding welbeck, had no doubts he would sign the deal. When he went to sunderland, i thought that would be him leaving united but he improved remarkably and has done so since his return to united. The question is, can he do better? yes. He has the skills and touch but more composure is needed for him to cause even more havoc. Competition at united has not been more tough, welbeck knows every opportunity he gets has to be cherished. Younger forwards like will keane (hope he returns from injury), henriquez (when he signs), maybe macheda, so players behind him will want to take his place but then those ahead of him like Rooney, VanPersie will make it extremely difficult. Hernandez is also there but i see him more as a super-sub. Welbeck needs to step up another level. The ability to do is there, he’s flexible enough to play on the wing if a forward position is hard to come by but i hope he comes good.
Willie – will Nani be next For a new contract or is another saga coming?.
good decision danny, now get the goals flowing in as well to match the salary whenever you’ll be playing
as for nani just read that he may have “nailed” himself in the feet with his poor display and that there could be no new contract for him as well as saf decides to take some early punishment actions
SAGA!!
Who this kid?
Where’s Neymar?
The great thing about the options united have is, finally, Rooney can be sent packing to the bench if he puts in poor performances and will face fight to get his place back. would be typical of the scouse fucker to step his game to another level, would be typical wayne.
Agreed about a great team gradually being built, all the tools are there. Gotta get them playing as a unit and hopefully we see them coming good.
One thing is, FERGIE has kept a core of players coming through in the squad and i expect more to follow them from the reserves into the first team.
Nani needs to be sold now, we have been patient for too long with this guy, no consistency at all.
On monday he could hardly cross properly, are going to be hoping season in season out that this guy will become what we expect him to become?i sometimes wonder if he Nani works hard on his mistakes, you cant have the same problems every season. i am seriously tired of Nani.
Well done to Welbeck, he wil be a legend at United but the real deal is Will Kean, the boy is going to be something else.
I would like to believe that we are a club of strikers,look at the strikers we have and up coming ones, its too much, Macheda, Will Kean, Angelo Henriquez plus young Welbeck, Chicharito.
Suuuuuuuper, Super Dan, suuuuuper, Super Dan, suuuuuuper, Super Dan…. Super Danny Welbeck. “All I ever wanted to do was play for Manchester United..” says it all!! That’s why we don’t need the likes of Lucas Moura!
Nani may have to lower his demands but i’m puzzled as to why having one poor game would threaten his place at united.
The great thing is, you won’t be responsible for players leaving or staying. nani will more than likely stay at united, the manager doesn’t unnecessarily react knee-jerk by selling obvious talents.
Lovely news! Topped my day ofcourse. Get in Danny!!!
Quote of the year – “Playing for United is all I’ve ever wanted to do – it’s the club I’ve supported all my life”
Now for more opportunities for our home growns. Can’t wait to see Robbie Brady, Davide Petrucci and Michael Keane getting their chances.
Ruud coaches Danny.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/watch-young-danny-welbeck-coached-1273718
Nani is on thin ice, imo.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4498734/Nani-will-be-axed-by-Manchester-United.html
congratulations Welbz sure the season got loads of game for u despite rvp comin in. why r guys on Nani’s case as if he is the only one to blame for every problem that come our way. seriously Nani is just one of the 25 registered players and one of very good one going by statics and plus u can see he is not lazy e works for the team, he back tracks he makes runs we have other problems that will make talents like Nani not do well and that is where u shd focus
Rooney has got the ambition he asked for now that Robin van Persie is here, let’s hope this pushes him to step up. Kagawa along with De Gea were our best players on Monday. Hernandez should get more games now that Kagawa is here as he will not need to rely too much on his touch, Hernandez is more clinical in goal than Welbeck, I do not buy into the nonsense that Hernandez is a super sub, he is much more than that and deserves more respect. I would like to see Van Persie and Hernandez start our next game with Kagawa behind and see how that works. Hernandez deserves his chance as he was one of the main reasons we lifted our 19th title.
Great news, well done Danny, now go score us many goals please.
Drop Rooney and play 4-4-2 with RvP and Wellbeck up top. Rooney needs a reality check.
Nani is potentially a world class player. What infuriates is that we all know what he is capable of and when he doesn’t do it regularly people are up in arms. It’s no coincidence that his best performances for United have been when he’s had a run of games on the right. The problem is that slot has gone to Valencia because if his great form, there in lies the problem. Sell him?? Why sell world class players?! I hope and think he will sign I just hope Sir Alex can solve the problem.
There’s a reason Nani always performs for Portugal and doesn’t always for us. We don’t play him in his correct position.
Best news all summer.
What best news Costner old chum… Goat and Cedars having a love in…??
Or that Sara/911 is now RedsGalore
Good afternoon….
Manchester United are considering a £10m move for Mexico’s Olympic star Hector Herrera.. (Daily Mail)
http://m.goal.com/x/en/news/3323319
Nani sale would bring balance to man united
Never thought Danny wouldn’t sign,Red through and through really like the lad and at 21 still very young,been at the club since 8 lol fuck me already lived the life always been patient and focused,he’ll be one of the best in a few years
Nani situation has been brought on by himself,wants a pay raise with two years to run.Normally more money comes with consistent form hard work and commitment to the cause.
Please tick the boxs
@TonyBee: Sara? She fakes, just like a woman!
Does seem loserpool is after Herrera as well, i’ve not seen the lad play but read some good reviews about him as a playmaker. But I think Utd should go for Witsel instead as Belgium is providing an array of talents lately and they are proving to be great hits in the teams they are playing so far
The lads who go will know better than me but Nani can’t be far away from the boo boy treatment,imo ruined Gibson’s confidence and ultimately any chance to make it at Utd.Nani doesn’t come across as someone who’ll be able to take that either
The lad needs to put a string of good games together
Sell Nani?! After one game? Might as well sack SAF too…! Lolz.
Some of the stuff on here you couldn’t make up…!
Nani is one of the most skillful players at United and he can also beat a man…!
SELL Nani
SIGN Heskey…!
Samuel – Hope so mate. The sun were saying he’s for the chop. We know how reliable they are! Nani had a stinker on Monday. I’d personally leave him on the bench for the Fulham game. In terms of his quality and overall importance to the squad, I want him to sign a new deal.
Might as well bring Obertan back too…! Lolz.
AlphaRS why get silly? You’re talking as though Nani is untouchable its a fact Nani has had a problem with consistency all his career
He brought this on himself by him and his agent going public this summer.He’s got 2 years left why should he get a pay raise and why go public,I don’t like the greed factor going on here before the player shows it on the field.
In contrast not a fucking word out of Danny,if you think Nani derserves a raise and contract extentsion make a case instead of just being fucking silly
Crazy no way and no coach in the world will drop wazza,how good does yr lovely Danny and nani perform in eve match?all three are not good enough but u know wazza are the main ace top player in our team ,how many goals he score at last few seasons? We must give game to him up his fitness rather than drop him , sorry for my english.
Goatinaunitedshirt
Apologies for the late reply but just been reading last nights posts and found yours addressing me.
Was that a serious question?
To recap some wum states that United are in decline and City are the new United blah blah.
My reply was to steer this poster towards a City blog where his opinions would be more welcome and you asked me why. Claiming that it’s the same as discussing how good Barca are.
I respect you as a poster with interesting opinions but for someone that claims to be a United fan I’ve always found yours views on the city of Manchester and it’s people derogatory. I was born in Manchester and don’t know anyone that wears a flat cap or that keeps whippets. Manchester is a modern cosmopolitan city by any standards.
IMO any United fan that thinks the two clubs are in anyway comparable is as ignorant about Manchester as Carlos Tevez.
City as our local rivals are are a club that along with Liverpool and Leeds should be hated by any United fan and Barca are a club we don’t really like because their better than us.
No comparison.
Instead of dropping Nani to the bench,I’ll drop Rooney and use Welbeck and RVP upfront.
Willie – I’m afraid, the vultures are circling around Nani. if he’s pushed out and ends up becoming even more brilliant for madrid or barcelona then we’ll be kicking ourselves. I don’t know what wages he’s demanding and maybe he needs to show more to earn it but it’s paramount to keep one of our best players. He has shocker for sure but so does Rooney and you don’t get clamoring to sell him. I’ve always said he’s not a perfect, i’m willing to have a player with an unpredictable match winning ability in the squad than the same one dimensional player that can be shut out easily. I hope he signs and returns to his best, we’ve seen it with portugal that he’s a top talent that actually steps up in the big games.
Nani has produced more assists and goals from the wing than any winger united currently have, the consistency can be interpreted how ever anyone likes to. There are things he needs to improve on and i feel he can. People jump into hasty decisions of selling because we’ve bought in a couple of players, reality will soon set in.
Bild is reporting United failed in £24m bid for Lewandowski before signing RVP.
Dortmund confirm offers rejected
http://bit.ly/Qq6uj2 via Pete Fraser
Thank god, sir alex doesnt think like some posters. Else we’d be filled with thugs devoid of any creativity who can only pass the ball backwards or sideways..
Going to the flanks and whipping in a cross when you have 5ftplus strikers against 6ft plus defenders will only work when the defenders are pulled out of position. I’m afraid the opposition has figured that one out for themselves hence our difficulty to score via headers. That’s where Nani and Kagawa come in.
I think we should cut nani some slack. It’s only the first game of the season give him time to get back into the groove of things. There were quite a few players that had stinkers themselves that night. Wayne included. If nani hits form he’s one of the best out there. He does however try to highlite that himself too much though.
We all know that wanting a new contract half way through a current one and going public drives Sir Alex batty and we all know Sir Alex is loyal to players who show the right attitude
I don’t want to see Nani sold he’s a exciting player but he really has made his own bed here
If he has made his bed by asking for more money,then what in blazes did Rooney do?
NO WAY IN HELL would I sell Nani. Sure he had a bad game the other day but we all know just how dangerous this guy can be. I cannot let such a good player go to another team. His performance are sure to improve don’t you worry. Plus Young and Valencia will put more pressure on him.
As for Rooney, I think even he knows now that he’s up against it. RVP and Welbeck are putting pressure on him. Expect to see a much better Rooney at Fulham on Saturday. I wouldn’t drop him just yet.
The person who I think we should drop for Saturday is Scholes. He’s getting old and we REALLY NEED to try out the younger players in his position. He has been a great servant but he shouldn’t be playing 90 minutes for United at ANY POINT this year unless the situation is worse than dire. I would have expected Anderson and Cleverley to start at Everton. Scholes keeps the ball but he isn’t as Urgent as he used to be when he was younger. The man deserves to rest. Give the other players MUCH MORE playing time than Scholes and the same thing goes for Giggs too. They should be used only sparingly.
With Gibson, Park and Berba leaving, Evans and Carrick shutting up the critics and Anderson turning into Andesron, I guess Nani is becoming scapegoat #1? It was one game people. Evra, Rooney and Welbeck didn’t fare any better and maybe that’s a sign that the Euro 2012 brigade is still rusty? They haven’t exactly had the best summer one could ask for. Guys playing in summer tournament are often slow starters the next season.
I know Nani and Rooney were woeful the other night, but it doesn’t mean they won’t come good. This team still relies on those two to be its matchwinners.
Udhala are you comparing Rooney’s contribution to Nani’s not in the same league mate.I think Rooney is a cunt but can never knock what’s he’s meant to Utd,he deserved a pay raise just went about it the wrong way.Nani hasn’t shown anything different since signing his last contract so why should he get more money
Also Rooney is reconised as Utd’s top player so City getting him would have caused damage to Utds image,Sir Alex didn’t have any choice
If the league ended today fulham will be champions..
Last season qpr were beaten by bolton 4-0
Also we thrashed arsenal 8-2 and they ended up third..
Form is temporary, class is permanent.. For nani both are occasional. Doesnt mean he cant turn it around. No point in giving knee jerks..
Welbeck glad you have signed new deal, hadn;t doubted it for minute, he is born red, hes not gonna look elsewhere!! And its great to hear him comment about the great players round him, could tell from his attitude when being subbed off for RVP. He didn’t huff or make a fuss, he sprinted to the sideline smiling at RVP and wished him well! Proper Professional!!
Sorry guys this is my reaction comment from everton game hadn;t posted so throwing it in here off topic like….bc that’s how I roll!
Poor effort on Monday night! Everton were playing like a team possessed, acting like it was a cup final or something! Very rare you seem them go out of the gates that quick at start of season but with 2 midfielders in defense they had every right to pump it into fellaini with overlapping runs around him! Absolute beast of a player that curly haired twat lol They wanted it more than use, simple as!
Thought Kagawa had quality game, watching highlights back this morning and he was involved in everything and any other day would have had assist and goal! He looks great player. RVP did well when came on but the midfield including rooney were just swinging it to the wings and not using his runs, he must have had 5 great runs but no-one picked him out! How good was Spanish Dave too? He had great game, going to be a massive player for us for long time to come! Thought cleverly and scholes did well passing about but their movement and passing was hampered by out of shape Rooney who had the touch a baby elephant when ball went to him. He lost it more times than not and instantly put us on back foot. Pity he always needs few games at start of season more than everyone else to sort out his fitness! Am sure he will come good eventually tho!
Am sure all will come good in time, need to strike good balance in team when everyone is fit. Need to get the defenders back in the fold so we can play Carrick in proper position in front of back 4 shielding defense and dictating play.
Hoping to see a good formation like this having he back 4 with Carrick just in front with cleverly and kagawa passing and supplying front interchangeable 3 of RVP, Rooney and Nani. This will be good away from home, keeping tight defensively but still sparks upfront!
DDG
Rafa-Rio-Vida-Evra
Carrick-Cleverly
Nani-Kagawa-Rooney
RVP
Sexy times ahead! Would love to see formation more at home with Rooney, Kagawa and RVP spearheading the attack but would need to be more sound at back and would probably need CB playing RB/LB so that we don’t get caught on break With this formation we could defo be more attacking and go at teams. Especially since more teams are coming to united to prove a point rather than parking the bus so this formation should see us keeping them under pressure every time we have the ball!
DDG
Smalling-Rio-Vida-Evra
Carrick
Valencia-Kagawa-Nani
RVP-Rooney
Exciting to see what formations and players Fergie goes with over the next few weeks until defenders come back ontot he scene!!
But back to topic! GET IN WELBECK YOU BEAUTY, NOW GO STUDY RVP AND START BANGING IN THOSE GOALS LIKE WE KNOW YOU CAN!!!!!
I would advocate starting Ando-Clev too. Kagawa in the hole, either of Rooney or RVP upfront. If it’s Rooney, with strict instructions to cut out the Roy of the Rovers stuff. Not sure about the RVP-Welbz combo. RVP’s best position is lead the line, and I’m not sure of Welbeck’s ability/experience to ensure RVP, a person who he’s hardly ever trained with, has a good time playing off him.
A pretty reliable friend tells me we are very interested in hector herrera and might bid 10 mil for him. Anyone heard anything?
No one is comparing their contributions as they don’t play in the same position.Maybe you ca n compare him with cunt aguero based on all round performance.
@ samuel – united WE stand
Cant agree more with you, and I would blame Nani inconsistency (that people talk about) to the fact that we in the last few years played safe instead of being more adventurous. Last season we lost by goal difference but no one was happy about how we were getting our points. my personal views:
1. If we could have at least a settled midfield am sure not only Nani will flourish but Ashely young too.what do you expect when you play giggs and carrick in the middle on a 4.4.2. the wingers spend 90 minutes trying to cover for central midfield.
2. we need to replace Mike Phelan, with all due respect since Carlos Queroz left we have regressed tactically, Notice Ronaldo, rooney flourished even Anderson played well.
But am optimistic fergie will get us back there, especially after seeing Kagawa debut that lad might just be the Key.
Nice one Dan, you the man.
Amazing how time flies. Just the other day you were an 8 year-old boy with a ball at your feet.
Today you have the world at your feet.
Time will carry on rushing by, make the most of every day, of every opportunity.
Good luck son.
I would love to see RVP upfront all the way as he has an exquisite touch and can make some unexpected runs which players like kagawa will be able to pick out.
Out of topic.
According with Mexican Media Hector Herrera from Pachuca and Gold Medallist in London is having conversations with Manchester United but I think this is a rumour.
http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2012/08/21/hector-herrera-se-enfila-al-manchester-united
Best Regards.
Alexander Büttner: “I had my first training session and sat in the dressing room between Dimitar Berbatov & Wayne Rooney.” [13:29:31]
Udhala lost me mate, you did compare Nani to Rooney and what the fuck has Aguero got to do with anything,anyway its fuck all to do with position its how valuable a player is,at the time of Rooneys contract dispute would have been a fucking nightmare if City had got him
http://www.google.com/search?oe=UTF-8&sky=ee&hl=en&q=hector%20herrera&spell=1&sa=X
Man utd set to beat liverpool to the signature of£10m rated box to box hector herrera.
anyone else think hat rooney needs to be dropped , or even told to buck up , he looks seriously out of shape physically , and im not talking lacking fitness ,he looked like he was sweating buckets , and gasping for air at times , i read somewhere he has been on the booze and cigarette diet over the summer. also enough of this stupid , tour the world crap , go to one country and have the preseason , dont try to please the global brand and all ” 600 million” fans , and if you do want to go on tour , break the team up and take one to one country and the other team to another , do not take all over them to three different continents. the injury problem is so annyoing at united , ive said it once before , i truely believe that the fitness team and medical staff need to revise what they are doing i just dont see how you can have so many first team injuries all the time , maybe they are training them too hard , but for it to happen consistently over the last few years is very annoying . i cannot wait for saturday this 5 day wait is killing me. excuse the rant
just thought id put in my two cents , i also know its off topic ( danny welbeck contract) but i wanted to read other peoples views 
. and good luck danny 
“By the way, lad looks like Crouchy’s midget twin.
Come on buddy, you know we’ve been low on ugliness since Tevez left Sir Alex is just trying to make sure we’re covered in the Fugly Cup

We have been seriously lagging behind in the Ugly cup since City signed Lescott and Tevez. I see this as Fergie’s last ditch plan to wrestle back the cup before he retires.”
I took this from official clubs website
Haha pissed myself
Herrera woulld replace Tevez, since his departure we have been short on that department
Wayne,my comparism was based on their hopeless display against everton and nothing more.If people want Nani out based on this one game,then rooney should follow suit.If we also want to critcise him for asking for more money,then rooney’s was much worse. Wonderful player or not,sir Alex has sold off wonderful players so Rooney is also expendable.
Tonybee n jeet enuff with this bollocks.go to ur new forum or just share ideas without mentoon me u numpties.
Great news from Danny boy. Should have signed for more than 4 year though.
This is my first post since Everton game, I can’t believe with so many so called “true united fans” were calling for the head of some of our players (I.e: Nani, Scholes, and as usual Evra), even some agreed that we are team in decline compare to Shittey. What happened to “Form is temporary, Class is permanent”? Its still early to judge the team, and like we all knew that we lost our defenders due to injury. Anyway, glad to see Vidic back in action.
On signing on Buttner – I posted right after pre-season that we might seeing Keane, Blackett or Veseli to cover for Evra. Well, its not what happened now, seems like for Fergie they still need some times before they can challenge for first team. This Buttner guy is the rabbit pulled out by Fergie from his hat.
I can’t believe some people quickly rate him lowly because he’s not as well known as Baines for example. But, he repesented Netherland youth and almost get into the cut of Netherland senior at last European Cup means he got the skills. Who knows Evra, Rafa, Heinze before we signed them? Well, we can also say that to Kleberson, Djemba Djemba etc. But, at least we wait a while before we jump into conclusion.
From the youtube, wikipedia and sort of sources, seems like he can do the job. I don’t watch dutch football, so those are the only sources for me to rate him. He can play both flanks which is a plus because we need a real right back as addition to Rafa. Thus, we can expect Smalling (central defender), Jones (central defender) and Tony Valencia (right midfielder) to play on their real positions from now own.
Udhala @ 14:37: “Going to the flanks and whipping in a cross when you have 5ftplus strikers against 6ft plus defenders will only work when the defenders are pulled out of position. I’m afraid the opposition has figured that one out for themselves hence our difficulty to score via headers. That’s where Nani and Kagawa come in.”
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Of course, your argument would be strengthened if Nani (who is one of my favourite players in the current squad) could cross the ball accurately – like a machine, instead of crossing it like a man running down the wings).
I don’t remember SirRyanGiggs being a great crosser; SirDavey was a great crosser but not really one to run down the wing. For that matter, RedNev was an outstanding crosser but he wasn’t as good looking as PoshSpice’s boy-toy.
Former Mexican international Marco Garces, a good friend of United’s chief scout Jim Lawlor, is involved in talks regarding Herrera.
Way to go wellbred.more action less talk
Marco Garces recommended Chicharito to United after meeting Lawlor whilst studying for a sports science degree in Liverpool.
Well done Danny – he looked sharper than Rooney on Monday and should’ve been given time to stay on with RVP. Im sure we would’ve seen a goal. Knew he was class from day one back when Kiko was rated higher… he’s got the skills, the speed and the ball control, not to mention an eye for goal, a good header, and the vision for defence splitting passes. Whats not to like about the lad? He’s a complete striker with over 10 years ahead of him and he’s fit as a fiddle. No fags or nuffin. Chica is under more pressure to get back into the squad imo. Survival of the fittest, lads – thats the name of the game and as a Longsight lad Danny thrives on that challenge, good luck to you bruv.
@Jay 13:01 – spot on.
Selling Nani is the stupidest thing I’ve heard in ages. For a shit winger he sure does assist and score a lot? More to the point he’s consistently class for his country and is second only to Ronaldo in a Squad that played Spain aka Barca off the park. The idea of selling him because he isn’t good enough for United is daft when he’s only reaching maturity as a player now.
Imo Rooney could just as easily be the one crossing the ball to Nani to score, so God knows why we don’t play him more centrally with more opportunities to shoot. Still, once our defence returns I wouldn’t be surprised to see him causing havoc far from the wing with our young Midfield trio. I’d like to think thats the managers plan, as opposed to handing him to a Champions League rival.
Also, Silva apparently wants 200K while Nani is only on 90K – but who scored and assisted more goals over the last two seasons? Silva (26) has defo played more games since he joined City so how can anybody with a brain say Nani (25) is shit when at a younger age he’s doing more than the fabled Silva with less playing time and a more restricted role? Really not sure why people wax lyrical about SIlva then write off Nani in the same breath? Wind your necks in ffs!
Funniest thing is loads of you would probably be happy to see Silva here on 200K instead!!! Talk about coveting another mans Cow! We should pay Nani more money and sign him in for the best 4 years of his career. He’s proved his loyalty by not moving for more money YEARS ago, and developing him this far but allowing him to reach his peak elsewhere sets a poor precedent for future signings. Are we Arsenal?
No Club with real ambition would let a young talent like Nani go, so if all he wants is 130K thats still approx 100K less than Rooney and RVP, so lets pay the man his worth! Now that United are moving from an over reliance on the wing we should be excited by the implications this has for Nani. Mark my words we’ll regret it if he leaves and plays more centrally elsewhere. IMO he could replace Rooney as our main goal threat, he’s that good a player.
Udhala not sure who wants Nani sold after one game.Rooney was coming off a career year in his dispute.Nani as usual showed glimpses of brillance but didn’t finish the season strong
At the time of Rooneys contract dispute Sir Alex had no choice but to make a statement to City
Listen mate we can go around in circles all day based on last season don’t think Nani is justified a pay raise and needs to get consistency to his game if he wants to be considered a elite player earning top wages
jeet @ 14:51: “If it’s Rooney, with strict instructions to cut out the Roy of the Rovers stuff.”
Excellent.
I was astonished at the number of times TheWayneBoy was wandering around in deep midfield rather than playing his position – centre and forward. DannyTheLad was forced out wide-left to accommodate TheWayneBoy but when UTD had the ball in an attacking position he was nowhere to be found.
Has he been palling around with Dimmy, playing that “withdrawn striker” role ? If so, he’s going to get withdrawn from the field of play.
Well happy with welbeck signing a new contract good player, with a great work ethic applies himself in the rite manner same has chico, and when comparing our 4 strikers to city’s i beleive that’s where we come up triumps, in the application department.
United till i die.That was a fantastic piece of writing.Balanced rational and well thought out spot on.
Wayne,you can only get consistent when you are played week in week out. Ask rooney!!!Even after a bad game,he still plays the next one but Nani plays a good game and he doesn’t start the next!!!Same with Rafael,he plays one week and a central defender is used the next week. How would they get better? I’m sure I Rooney was treated in the same manner,he would be worse than them.
Anyways,we’ll always disagree to agree bro.One united!!!!
Spot on united till I die
Haven’t posted anything regarding nani’s future
Only posted views by the ABUs regarding him
But to be frank, I never doubted him
He does have form issues but on his day he’s unplayable
Maybe we should try him more centrally than out wide, with the addition of swags whom they seems to gel well selling would be the silliest thing in the world
People who want young over nani are not serious.when everyone is fit it will b xtremely hard 4young to start.he will have to contend with cameos..not slating him but there is just too much quality me thinks.
I must admit i do think at times nani over elaborates, and his decision making needs to improve, but hand on heart i dont beleive selling nani is the answer, the lad has talent in abundance, and i’d like to see his full potential being realised here.
RedsGalore – let me fucking level with you, pal. Here’s the deal. You admit to all the monkey tricks you have been playing on here (along with all the usernames you have used), and stop doing it once and for all, and all is forgotten. You keep up with this, we will keep fucking with you. We will post where we want, and what we want – it works both ways, pal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/
Angelo henriquez scores in milk cup
I think that’s Nani signing the contract under Danny’s username.
Nani … Danny … come on!
@ Red Robin
“Who knows Evra, Rafa, Heinze before we signed them? Well, we can also say that to Kleberson, Djemba Djemba etc.”
Mate, don’t you watch football, or do you just watch United?! Evra played a Champions League final before signing for us, and Kleberson played in a World Cup final before we signed him… and for Heinze, he was a regular in PSG before we lured him to OT… Therefore, all of these three players shown their class in world football and were well known before they came to OT! (not that Kleberson’s class ever showed up after the World Cup, but anyway!)
The capture of Büttner can’t in no way be compared with any of the signings above.
And as far for Büttner, let’s just hope that his potential absolutely explodes with better players, so we finally got a decent option for Pat!
The jeering at everton of nani plus being booked early on in the game clearly affected him.nani had to be cautious to avoid red.saf said crowd control ref in the game so nani was on best behavior to avoid 2nd yellow.he is human still learning not a programmed machine.
“Yes definitely I will be in Rio, as long as I’m fit and I’m ready,” Bolt said. “It’ll be a little bit harder but I’m looking forward to it.”
Aromatherapy? Lumbar Puncture? Hard man Bolt up close personal?
Try anything mate, just get him fit.
Jeet i want peace not to spoil peoples mood here.i respect u n dont insult u but always u r insulting pple even with their mums.maybe u lucky ur mum is alive then give thanks to God.if u want to abuse folk steer clear of parents pal.i have no hard feelings will only talk united
Mums the word.
to be fair wether your a recognised name or not, it’s how you apply yourself, certainly from a mentality perspective.
@Reds Galore – cheers
@Proverbs – agreed with the first part, but who is “swags” ?
@RoM – unless you communicate elsewhere this site its just a bunch of anonymous user names. Any poster who sticks to the main topic (MAN UNITED) warrants respect imo, otherwise every “new” username who isn’t a “regular” gets treated with suspicion and frankly thats too much of a distraction from the main topic. I’d understand if they posted irrelevant nonsense, but when a so-called suspect is simply talking about the Club and minding their own business live and let live for fuck sake, its just a poxy football blog (no offence Scott lol). Good luck with that new site btw.
Swags is kagawa
DreadedRed says:
I think that’s Nani signing the contract under Danny’s username.
not much of a comparison really Wellbz busts a gut every time he dons the shirt and Nani ..although technically a better player…doesn’t in my opinion.
after CR7 left thought it was an good moment for Nani to step up and prove himself….but he too often plays with blinkers on …. on Monday night he knew the pressure was on him due to contract negotiations and went hyper and got himself booked early…. and then seem to give up..where as Danny although out on the left kept going all game till subbed….
good luck to you Danny lad…hope you do well for us
dreaded red …love the bellend gag…made me chuckle….
Not saw any of Buttner’s defending but saw a clip of him showing his skills in other departments while wearing the 5 shirt.Speedy player with good dribbling skills,fierce shot on him and accurate with it and good goalscorer.
http://www.footballgossip.org.uk/ind…day-21-august/
@Udhala – I agree, I think RVP and Welbeck should start on Saturady with Rooney on the bench but it will never ever happen. For starters Rooney needs every possible opportunity to get fit as he’s come back in shit shape.
@RoM – Sure Rooney is class enough to pull off something special even when he’s not in form, but is a smoking boozing striker really good enough for United in the first place? Berbatov was alright (and younger) at Spurs but he isn’t doing himself any favours smoking at the top of English football is he? In modern footballing terms Rooney’s habits make him a DINOSAUR, albeit a talented one, and he won’t be leading the line for a top 4 side like Drogba when he reaches 34 himself, not if he doesn’t give up the fags and get fit right now. In his youth fair enough, but Rooney is looking at 27 and he’s supposed to be in the shape of his life not gasping for dear life without covering more ground then the other lads. Im not even having a go, but self destructive players are not a good look in 2012. Get fit Wazza! You’ll need at least 18 Premier League goals for the next three years if you want to pass Andy Cole THIS side of thirty, and you’ll have to DOUBLE your existing EPL goal tally to match Shearer! Less fags more Cardio!
reds Galore …slow down and type it out slowly….having reading your latest post…this abbreviated text style is beyond me and looks like gibberish
TonyBee – I was referring to the picture at the top of the page, it’s Nani posing as Welbeck!
Kinda messed up that link.Not too clever with computers.
Lol @ Proverbs, I’ll remember that one.
Thanks tonybee i luv u too
Jesnaldo
Right mate. I know where Evra, Heinze, Kleberson played before, but we would not have known what kind of players they’d become after they joined United. They could be a hit or a miss even though they were already big players. I should have also brought Smalling into comparison. Now, people jump into conclusion right away because Buttner is not that big player. The chance is always there that Buttner can become the player that we need. Just give the lad a while.
Reds Galore
TonyBee is right, cell-speak or whatever you like to call it, is lazy.
Most people can’t be bothered with lazy, unreadable posts.
If you want people to understand what you’re saying, slow down.
I bet Nani wishes it was him signing the contract…… SAF has stalled on a new contract …. methinks Nani has valued himself out of Old Trafford….we shall wait and see
Reds Galore…. i CERTAINLY DON’T LOVE YOU…..
am a little suspicious of you…think others have you pegged….again, we will wait and see…
Evolving into a class player at utd is all about attitude.we have had de rough n the smooth with players who sign as world beaters but dont put much mo effort n end up elswhere like veron.again look at pple like chico vida etc unknowns with a right attitude n now influential in team.buttners attitude will be his making or undoing imo.
I can see it all TonyBee, a contract being signed by Nani and silverware being his reward.
Even without my red specs on.
I expect he’ll be a candidate for players poty again, maybe even win it again.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/xn/detail/6365595:Topic:289508
at least he love our club
iced earth – trust you’re cool and still grounded mate?
There was an ice dearth in your absence, but we gave it the cold shoulder.
Hardwork beats talent unless talent works hard.looking at ronnie is prime example.when he started at united he was not that known but he managed to elevate himself thru grafting with right attitude to best player on earth.buttner doesnt need to have been great before to succeed.de guy will make it if he follows saf tutelage.
This is what I really like from the Buttner acquisition. This addition means that United have another option in right back position. It means Smalling, Jones and Tony V can concentrate their fight for the position that they like. Hopefully, Buttner can do the job.
He is another butt in United history. And, hopefully he can tackle like Nicky.
RedsGalore – I seldom abuse posters, only those who abuse our players, gaffer or the club, and those who take the piss out of the blog by using multiple user names, and don’t have the courage to admit it and move on. Like I said, quid pro quo, you come clean and put an end to the nonsense, and I’ll stop being snide or abusive. Have you got the guts for it? And stop denying it, don’t abuse everybody’s intelligence – you’ve outed yourself thrice by my count.
excellent news, Really pleased for you Danny Welbred. SAF has shwon faith in you, I really hope that you work on your touch and composure and go on to become a UTD legend.
Off TOPIC… DONT sell NANI… I will put my house on the fact that he will score and assist some really important goals in our season which will win us games.
The future is being developed, Henrique, powell, hernandez, welbeck, raf, smalling, jones, Tom c, buttner, DDG with good reserve boys, tunny etc… SAF is once again building a team within a team. WHY do people doubt him is beyond me…
IN SAF WE TRUST
GALORE…ONCE AGAIN …YOUR STYLE OF POSTING UNFORTUNATELY MAKES YOU OUT TO BE A FUCKING IDIOT….
FOR FUCKS SAKE TYPE IT OUT PROPERLY…
hee hee and not in caps…..
Great news on Welbz really chuffed……….As for Nani, selling him would not be a good idea, just keep him on the bench and play him in the Carling Cup
@ Red Robin
Agreed!
But there is still a huge difference between signing someone who already played at top level before joining us (Evra, Heinze), and a lad who’s been playing in Erevidisie, where he isn’t even considered to be any of the absolute top fullbacks, in a league that itself is really average compared to the Premier League… so for Büttner to even make it in the first team, it would really be a shocker! But I do hope this guy gets a lot better within 1-2 yrs with absolute world class players around him at United… Let’s not forget that we wouldn’t be signing him, if he didn’t have any potential at all… well at least we’ve got some future cover for Fabio!;)
Mr Bee
He is even using YET another moniker, lets see if you can suss it out.
A lot of United fans want us to get red of Nani, which in my humble opinion is simply madness. It’s like shooting our foot.He was such an integral part of our winning side in 2010-2011 and even if we are getting Bale as a replacement, and we won’t, i would not let him go.We should tie him to new deal as soon as possible.
Jeet this is getting tedious now.pple here act like they have carte blanche to do whatever they want.thats fine but saying you find me thrice posting with different names is not true.i dont know who u think i am but like i said im only willing to put the handbags n insult aside n post my thoughts please.im no 911 like u say
WTF are shitty doing signing sinclair? are they going to kil the career of another english winger? aka adam johnson?
Lee Martins Winner @ 17:15: “The future is being developed, Henrique, powell, hernandez, welbeck, raf, smalling, jones, Tom c, buttner, DDG with good reserve boys, tunny etc… SAF is once again building a team within a team. WHY do people doubt him is beyond me…
Transitioning from one winning team to another is just about the hardest thing a manager can do. SAF has done it four times – and seems on course to do it once more before he retires. WHY some people doubt is beyond any rational discussion !
mancdub
i realise some numpty said what he said last night but I didnt think a straight piss off was warranted. There has been alot of piss off to those that dont agree with the regulars and we run the risk of alienating readers who would like to post, adding a valuable point of view from ever writing. I do think that somehow on here we are somewhat looking through red tinted specs and if you dont see the danger that is City then you are mad. They are not the new United as to overtake the most successful English Club you will need atleast 30 years of non stop acchievement but in respects possible future championships then City could be rated on a par, better by some worse by others. I just dislike the negativity and find a rebuttle of someones view without giving reasons as bad an offence as the silly statement in the first place.
About Manchester and its people. I once had a few scouse friends and they told me that Liverpool had the best sense of humour in the world. When I went there I found 10 million philosophers with faces like tripe. Couldnt take a joke and were generally touchy and damn right hostile at times. I realise my friend that not everyone in Manchester wears a flat cap nor owns a whippet. Im fully aware of Manchesters cosmopolitan lifestyle for I was forced to watch a 6 series box set of Cold Feet with my wife. It darn right nearly turned me gay. So please dont take offence at a southerners piss take on Manchester. Once again I would hope you have a sense of humour rather than take offence and that when a bit of ribbing comes my way because of my Surrey upbringing and not supporting my local team then I should in turn be greated with a slap on the thigh and wink of the eye every time Im amazed you mancs can write a sentance. It must have been very difficult learning to read by gas lantern down t’mine.
Sorry tonybee if you are upset with my shorthand.will rectify that
Reds Galore
The other day I addressed Sara, yet you replied asking me to stop insulting you!!! I had never addressed you prior to that. Thing is pal, you are not only fake but you are also daft as fuck
Enough with the bull shit please
jeet
What evidence have you got that a particular poster is using multiple usernames. Not trying to start a battle would like to know for myself.
@denton
It just goes to show why we sometimes get called GLORY supports, its because some of our fans are…
The simple truth is that shitty are not going to go away, we will not be able to sustain a player buying war every season with them. SAF knows this, so he is already building for 4 – 5 seasons time. Thats what makes him the best….
Im excited by our squad…. now and for the future….
gas lantern down t’mine ……..hhahahahahahahah you bastard,,,made me spill me brew….
Tbh i dont blame city for destroying careers of players like sinclair.they are old enough to make own decision good or bad.players changing clubs for money get very short supply of sympathy from me.they made there own bed already let them lie and detororate there
Goat
On more than one occasion the said poster was addressed and at times he uses a different ,moniker to reply so he keeps outing himself . Thing is he has so many he forgets which one to use. Why not just stick to one name and get on with it?
Bring on city’s new found wealth, i embrace it, we’ve met every other challenge till now head on and we’ll do the same with that lot.EVERYTHING city WANT TO BE UNITED ARE.
Some people here need to lay off Nani, he’s class on his day. Yes he can be very frustrating, but his stats are very impressive, not just within United (Big TV7 included) but in the league and not just amongst wingers. We also have to consider that her always shines when he plays for Portugal as some have already mentioned on here as he gets to play in his preferred RM position. I think he can only be judged if he was to get a consistent run of games in that position, which will not happen as TV7 has made it his own although I would prefer Nani purely because of his unpredictability. TV7 is an absolute beast, but quality opposition can nullify him as Barca showed in the CL as he is a one-dimensional player. I think people should be patient with Nani same as they are with Rooney, I feel like there are double standards amongst us fans at times. In fact Rooney’s first touch needs work, he constantly leaves the team on the backfoot when he loses the ball (which is happening a lot). I think some time on the bench would do him some good, I would actually like to see how Berba would go with RVP leading the line..
As for the Everton game, there were som positives to take from the very disappointing game. DDG and Kagawa were class, both will prove to be invaluable to United over time for sure. Cleverley looked very assured on the ball, would have liked to see Ando and him together from the get go. Ando looked very good when he came on, and was one of the few players who actually took a shot at goal instead of doing an Arsenal and trying to pass the opposition to death. Thats where I feel Cleverley still needs work, he seems scared to take a shot at goal. Disappointing game from Rooney/Nani/Evra but I wint get into that. And credit to Everton, Fellaini was unplayable although that long ball game of theirs was frustrating even though it was effective from them.
Anyways looking forward to the Fulham game, I hope RVP gets to start as well as Ando. And fingers crossed we start to get our CBs back, 4 injuries just borders on insane. Something is just not right. I’m even missing Evans, how things have changed.
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TonyBee
When I was at school in the 80′s and early 90′s we had textbooks that said the average Lancastrian household didnt have a Sauna and even fewer a pool. It must have been frightfully dull up there but at least you had your gin houses, prostitutes and 16 kids to keep you company. I often mused at the screen plays one got to watch of northern life which reminded me of a surreal french picture where said gentleman came up from the pits and his wife bathed him in a zinc tub infront of the coal stove. He washed and scrubbed up quite nicely, looking closer at the silver screen, I saw the gentlemans wife had in places turned black instead because the gentlemans supper wasn’t ready on the table. I did larf so.
Cedars i know you dont like me maybe because i dont impress you.how about letting me express myself then with united stories.let me mingle with people.you have at times ruffled feathers here and said even tonybee was hacked attacked posters but it was not hacking even scott forgive you for abusing him.by the same token why dont you forgive others.im baffled to be honest.regardless my past infractions everyone deserves a second chance.
CedarsDevil
Oh like that is it. I learned from an early age dont tell lies as a story never sticks like th etruth. You keep forgetting and as you say out yourself. I dont see any need for multiples it must be a complete pain in the arse. I was under the impression RoM had the ability to block IP’s and match IP’s to a particular username.
team for fulham game imo
de gea
rafael carrick vidic evra
cleverly/scholes andersron
valencia kagawa young
van persie
rooney needs to be benched was fuckin shit against everton,
also feel kagawa and van persie are better than rooney in there respective positions anyway.
maybe he can play on the left when he gets some form back.
Goat, see cedars post above. More like that has happened. I never addressed redsgalore till now, and he/she/it says I abused his/her/its mum.
Also, the style is a dead giveaway (not evidence) and ppl who haven’t been a part of the blog or spent as much time on it as the ‘evil regulars’ over the last 6 months will take this as a witchhunt, and I can understand that pt of view, but pls people we are not unreasonable cyberbullies, nor idiots. New usernames, surprisingly similar styles always popping up within minutes of each other, and always talking to each other and no one but themselves.
I was new here once, and have had, and continue to have widely different views to a lot of the other ‘evil regulars’ – never felt bullied. I’ve argued against any trace of such bullying myself.
What boggles my mind is that folk who never contrribute jackshit, keep talking about the ‘er’s, who contribute so much, and don’t realize that this multiple username pisstake, if left unchecked, can cause so much harm to the place. It’s the same everywhere isn’t it – someone takes the piSs out of the system, and you are blamed for having a reaction by those who couldn’t be arsed in anyway whatsoever so long as they can keep being a consumer. Fuck that.
Which other moniker im i using?Reds Galore is what i use .dont alienate me from posters here.i love united as next red.please cedars and stop with insult.
Goodnight all.hope reading pull aa surprise today.cech will be fearing not to get an extra helmet today n will leak goaals hopefully.
Bye united faithfuls
The soap opera continues….
Nice! Glad to hear that we managed to get the contract extension signed. Love it when local boys make it into the team – no questions where their loyalties lie.
duly noted i’ll keep out of it and let each and his own fight their own battles. It would be handy if there was someone on here with multiple personalities as they could talk to all of mine. One big family, lol.
What was that about helmets?
Rai
ND58 mate
Great signing for us. Feel sorry for Dimmy but he’ll be gone, hopefully he’ll get a farewell cameo appearence before the transfer window shuts. Time for Macheda to move on I think, can’t see him gettin a game.
One game and united have been written off. I prefer that, no pressure on us.
That’s what you get when you switch browsers!
Ahh, the quick exit when cornered. Note that ‘sara’ was also talking of forgiving past ‘infractions’ a few days back. If there’s nothing wrong, why talk of ‘forgiving’? All I want is this he/she/it to come clean, list all the usernames, and stop this nonsense once and for all. No need to apologize either – aLl are welcome.
Cedars – ND58??
I’ve been off and on last fee days…have I missed something?
Jesnaldo
But still, he can be a hit, right? One more thing I want to highlight, he was a regular player at Vitesse for few years. He knows how to take his place in the first team. So, just hope that he was a big fish in a small pond, who is ready for a challenge in a big pool. In a much much more bigger size of pool of course.
So because buttner isn’t rated as highly in another league by pundits then that means he isn’t good enough? what a load of crap. The guy is 23 and hasn’t kicked a ball yet, i’m willing to give him the amount of time to convince and i won’t be needing cunt pundits like lawrenson to make my mind up on a player. FERGIE won’t be taking their advice on a player either.
What i’ve noticed is, when a player isn’t known worldwide, people instantly assume they won’t be good enough. United buy potentials and elevate them, that’s what united do.
Rai
New forum, not a blog……..Started by a couple of regulars here. Some folk thought its a revolt against RoM but its not, just gives REDS a bit of variety. I ain’t posting the link here again. If you are in touch with any of the regulars get them to pass it on. Great place
Yes we get it RD58 is the greatest blog ever.If some of you lads feel Rom isn’t good enough for you anymore fair enough.
There’s been a lot of bollocks written over the last few months about Rom going downhill and some drama queens leaving then a new blog appears.I’m sure posters will find it but constant plugs is disrespectful to STR imo
wayne
Do not be silly mate. I am one of the biggest defenders of RoM as I am sure you know. I have spent countless hours fighting off trolls from here and will keep doing so. Now what is wrong with a bit of variety?
RoM has it’s own forum.
Using RoM by asking it’s readers to come to another forum is wrong.
Man City offloading Adebayor for 5m GBP and agree to still pay him 95k a week even though he will be playing for a different team. The world’s gone mad, this is ridiculous.
Samuel
Voila!! That sum up everything about Buttner signing mate.
Cedars
RoM is getting bigger and of course its attracting more posters. Troll, average and genius posters. Don’t mind them. I was annoyed before, but I realised that we can only ignore them trolls. If they are really trolls, they will get bored and leave this blog. If they are genius, they will learn to post better comments. Give them a little while.
For multiple monikers user, the only way to get rid them is to get StR to block them.
If you want an idea of what Buttner is like then his utube videos might help.True you don’t see his defensive capabilities but I think he looks the part.
DreadedRed says:
RoM has it’s own forum.
Using RoM by asking it’s readers to come to another forum is wrong.
In normal business then Id probably agree with you but this is for a sports site. RoM itself is using another companies trademark and prestige (Manchester United) to further itself. Its a Manchester United forum rather than a general football forum. A greater number of options for the fan cant be a bad thing and as long as they, at the new forum, link to RoM it shouldnt make the blindest bit of difference. If anything competition increases quality, well it should in this case.
Right, let me make this clear once and for all and I will never bring it up again………..
There is no REVOLT against RoM, I have been posting here for years and we have always had trolls and wums coming on. Personally as I said I am one of the biggest defenders of RoM. NO one on the new site said they are leaving this place so it fucking baffles me that the mere thought of having another option for a bit of variety is annoying people. An invitation will soon be sent to StR himself to join up.
Get a fucking grip
best thing ive heard about buttner is that fact he said he was trailer park and proud. I think he will enjoy a good challenge….
Lee Martins Winner @ 17:30: “The simple truth is that shitty are not going to go away,”
I’m not so sure that it’s a “simple truth” – after all, the Qataris who owned Malaga cut and run and there’s no reason to assume that the Sheikh won’t find another bauble/toy with which to amuse himself.
On a somewhat different note, it’s interesting to see that – contrary to MUST and AndersRed – George Soros has invested in 8.75% of the recent share-offering. For those who don’t know, Soros is a gazillionare with slightly less money than Warren Buffet but much much more than the Glazers.
Personally I’m starting a new website called: In love with Hayley McQueen
Fortunately for me I’m asking no one to join up – period – wonder why – oh well some things are beter left a secret
MG
thats just selfish:-)
Denton
I think I’ve got more money than the Glazers!! Well, less debt so therefore better off!
The twats on twitter, spreading a rumour that Anzi has £35million offer on the table for Nani! ‘hmmmm!’ “tempting”
My love for Wayne Rooney had faded long time ago when he had gone public and criticized United for lacking any ambition and was ultimately looking for a way out of the club. Sir Alex Ferguson’s press conference that day was quite unbelievable. From what I recall, Fergie looked disappointed, angry and livid in a player he trusted so much. He had invested so much in Rooney to make him the best in the world, become a United legend and be a leader for united for many years to come. This is the exact situation that has happened to Arsenal with RVP, the only difference is Sir Alex offered Rooney a way back into the club to prove himself that he was at the right club and massive massive pay rise that even broke our wage structure.
If a player comes out and disrespects a clubs ambition, personally, the player should be allowed to leave the same way Arsenal has dealt with both RVP and Alex Song.
Many will say Rooney is our best player, but since 09/10 season he hasn’t looked the same at all. We used to see a player who used to show real passion and really drive the team forward, but since then he looks like a player who feels like he is forced to play and i really dont think he has heart is set on giving he all for united. He’s touches are poor, he easily gets handled by defenders and plays the outrageous pass instead of a very simple one and hes pace is slow too.
Rooney is United most valuable asset. While he is still at his best united should part ways with him next season and get a really good price for him. Rooney could easily go for 60-80 million. Can you imagine what we can do with so much money?. Their are other players who are technically better that Rooney and can also offer more going forward!!
What are your opinions on this??
Capitano
35million – er take it and fuckin run!
United, I for one would welcome a reasonable, logical debate on that one, without ppl going bonkers or turning abusive. Its too late for me and I’ve a horrible day ahead of me, so I’ll leave it to you guys, but still might share my 2 cents later. Night, all – keep it RED and UNITED
goatinaunitedshirt – first off, thanks for your attitude and approach on RoM. You have interesting views, a logical approach, and a personable manner. Much enjoyed.
I see your point about the nature of blogging about United on the net. However, if a blogger wants dual link status with RoM, all he needs to do is drop him a mail. Posting numerous messages promoting a new blog is called spamming, I believe.
RoM has permanent links to 7 sites and 4 blogs (no forums, apart from RoM’s own forum)
Take a chance, maybe StR wants a RoM link on your page, maybe not.
Let him decide.
I feel for Lewandowski, he was desperate his puppetier Kagawa. After we signed RVP, he said he will b staying with BVB.
@United
If you had propsed that question before injury of late season 2010, I would have simply asked for your medical records and recommended that you see a shrink.
Now this subject is an emotive one. I have watched us take the most promising english talent from the scouse and seen him grow into one of the best 5 forwards in the world (2009 – 2010) season.
I have forgiven his public behaviour, Grannies and all, but I have never forgiven his momment of madness. Do I still rate Rooney as a player simple answer yes. If PSG or someone else offered me a stupid amount of money say 60, 70 million, would I take it? answer YES.
I say yes for two main reasons:
One, He pissed on the badge with that bullshit act publically trying to engineer a move to city. As a person, he is a CUNT.
Second, IF, (and its a MASSIVE if) we used that money to purchase say Neymar…Then I think it would be a good deal.
Now dont get me wrong, I am NOT saying we should sell ROONEY. I think he is still a good player and if he improves his performances on a CONSISTENT basis, then he is still a massive plus for the team and the squad. But do I feel the same about the lad as say the ginger prince, not a chance in hell.
Its a great question mate… thanks..
He is a scouse cunt, but he is our scouse cunt
United
£60m-£80m ??
That will just go in to the Glazers pocket , but I see what you are saying .However I disagree with as he could make up for what he said about United . As he has already apologized and has a rich form of scoring in the last two seasons as he surpassed George Best and is not far away from the all time top scoring record of 249 set by Sir Bobby Charlton.
Good on ya Danny, no fuss, no muss, no papers, no press leaks. Proper Red and chuffed to bits he’s penned a new deal!
Whats with the shirt Danny? #getitsorted
@ United
For me the RVP signing is a clear and direct shot over the bow at Rooney to do one of two things: Buck up, get his shit sorted, work his arse off and come out on the pitch breathing the fire we know he has in him, or continue believing he’s the 1st name on the team sheet and wallow in his own complaicancy. I believe he’s that competitive that it will be the former but certainly a space to watch in the next 6 weeks.
the rentboys are 2-1 down..come on reading!!
First of all I haven’t lost my grip on fuck all,I remember a few years ago some lad called Hammond or Hammons somethng like that got attack by some for promoting his own blog and stopped posting
I agree with dreadedred(sorry caps won’t kick in on my phone) contact str and get a legit link
Rent boys losing 2-1 at home to Reading, come on you Royals!
Dreaded red .. can we now call you ROM’S morale guidance counsellor….for all things internetty…
fucking hell fella your worse than my Missus keeping going on….
All those naughty people mentioning another forum /blog whatever……. you’ve made your point…move on
what do I love more, the fact the Renties are 2 – 1 down or the fact that I have progrebnyak and Guthrie in my dream team? lmao
Like ND58 im starting a new one cedar’s left tit. For all of 911′s monikers as also willie costas and sandeep to suck on..
Ha guess that one should work eh cedars ?
and when i saw your Nani reply with red specs ….my immediate thought was to say that he would probably be getting that silverware on the continent….talented though he is he is not realised his full potential ….falling into the sullen creature he is today…
Lee Martin
I agree with pretty much everything you said on your post pal. Actually, everything.
This blog is becoming more like a Jeremy Kyle show everyday.
wayne
Mate, that post was not addressed to you, if it was I would have put your name at the top…..I am sure you know me be by now, I am not snide and I do not shy away ….It was a general comment
Cedarslefttit.orgy check it out..
Tonybee its about as classy as you..
Devil’s own
Excellent, yet another freak who is obsessed with me. You only ever post here about me.
TonyBee – move your desk to the front this instance!
@Eric Keane
I still think that we do the sideways backwards safe passes WAY too much. It was refreshing to see Kagawa looking to send/receive through balls. I think he will feed RVP some beauties over the season more so then anyone else on the squad. Also, I don’t think we will have the luxury of losing 4/5 games to figure out our structure as the top will be very tight this year and losing 5 games may mean 3rd, so I take the Everton defeat not lightly at all.
http://Www.jerremykyle.com/freaks
yes teacher…..
Although MI5 allowed photographs to be printed of Harry bollock naked or wearing a Nazi uniform……………
to avoid embarrassment to the Royals, they have supressed pictures of him wearing a Liverpool shirt.
Course i do. A freak by nature it seems.
Ever wonder why nutters are obsessed with you? It cause you are a whiny bitch.
@Wayne
There have been a few posters saying it’s time to sell nani on a few threads since the Everton game.
As I’m sure you’ve been reading above Nani had the highest number of assists at United last season.
How can anyone justify selling him? He was poor against Everton but by no means was he the only one. Rooney had an absolute stinker and the general tactics used against Everton just weren’t good enough.
I’m glad SAF has brought in RVP and Kags as finally Rooney can be sent on his way to the bench. He looks overweight and everytime he received the ball he had the touch of a feckin rapist. Finally he can be dropped and isn’t an automatic first choice.
ooh Devils own….pucker up big boy..xxxxxxx Classy as me …hahahah you cunt …nearly made me spill my lavender tea….
@ devils own
Now look mate, I am a regular reader of this blog and NOT a regular poster until very recently. I will give you my honest opinion of how I see things.
There is a group of very regular posters on here, at first look it could be seen as a click. But having spent over a year just using ROM as a place for info on UTD, reading reserve team and youth team updates or just killing time when there is nothing on I can honestly say this.
Ceders, James21, giggs12gerard0, tony bee and the rest of the regs are a good bunch of lads. Do they talk shit yeah, but its fucking funny shit. They are never over the top, welcome balanced views that dont agree with thier own and ONLY get irrate when people either show disrespect to this blog or UNITED.
Ceders seems a top lad as most on here do. I know your just being a WUM mate and CEDERS definatly does not need anyone to fight his corner. But when I see someone just talking shit about a true RED then it kinda gets my back up.
so take my advise, spend some time here, read a few blogs and get involved or crawl back into the box play FIFA…..either way buddy, ur wrong on this one…
In SAF I TRUST
We are red 17.42
Loved that post mate quality. Too many cynics after one loss.
Tonybee : lavender tea. Classy. As i said.
I would wait another game or two to see how two things:
1] how Valencia manages at right back because I think it is a better position for him to attack from deep theoretically.
2] obviously to see whether Nani’s form improves; he is a form player, but if he starts like he played in the Euros, then I dont think well see the best of him for a while.
If it doesnt work out, I would sell Nani because its now time, the lad is excellent, but unfortunately, too inconsistent. On his day, hes better than Valencia [imo], but you cant dedicate a place in the side for an ‘on his day’.
We are going to play a four tear formation this year with limited places for wingers. Its all very well talking about retaining players but you cant play em all. Nani playing on Monday meant there was no room for Rafael; ponder that people.
I would be happy with getting 20-30 million for him, so 35 would be cracking.
Lee Martins Winner. …..champion thing to say….you are right of course …but i would say that wouldn’t i …
its the classy thing to say….
Hey Chelsea see what it feels like when a team parks a bus?!
Lee Martin’s winner
Cheers mate appreciate the mention. Some people get ahead of themselves abusing some good posters. There is a group of lads who have decided to set up a forum away from so not to get involved in things like devils own.
RoM is legendary and comfortably my favourite site for all things united. No one is leaving here, I’d be fucked without StR for my news. Plus I love good posters and they don’t have to be regs just add a top post and I’m all.over it.
Louis
Tony V is not a right back mate, he’s a very good right winger and wasted at the back.
If a club comes in with an offer of 60-80 million for Wayne Rooney, I would take it. Players can have a love/hate relationship with fans when they join a club noticeably Wayne Rooney. This is a player who came out and criticized sir alex ferguson for his tactics and United ambition as a club PUBLICLY. He used this as a tool to threaten the club and get a better pay rise otherwise he would have moved to a rival club.
Sir alex acted quickly and gave him hes demands otherwise rooney moving to Man city, Chelsea, Arsenal or even Liverpool would have been so disastrous to our fans. also strengthening the virus real Madrid or barca wouldnt have been good.
All im saying is that Rooney is not himself anymore and i’ll be happy to see the back of him. Nothing makes up for what he made out of United and you could see our manager almost being emotional in front of the press that day. How could he do that to him??
Ronaldo left United with some integrity and he also made it clear that it was his dream to play for united. Not one time did he disspoint our fans. He gave his all, making us the first club to ever win three tiltles in a row and our third champions league title. Ronaldo banged in 30+ goals before leaving us in good shape.
Ronaldo made this possible, but i still know he has love for united and respects it, im glad he went out in a good fashion and nothing bad was made out of his transfer to real madrid.
With Kagawa at United, Rooneys position at united looks under threat. Presonally Kagawa looks way better in the no 10 role than rooney. He looks more dyanmic and is more skillfull, plus he makes the right pass at the right time and links up play quite well and not losing possesion with stupid passes..All of which i think rooney has lacked completely.
Lee Martins : much appreciated response. Give me a chance to explain myself. If you dont like it then you can ignore my posts..
Its OK fella’s I just call it as I see it, in life and fottball…..
Anyway.. I actually think United’s post about rooney ha some miles on it. We have just signed henrirque, welbred has signed a new deal, RVP on bored, the boss loves chicho and berb has not been sold yet. Throw into the mix young keane and Rooney could have a problem.
I am just throwing this out there and we all know the boss does not take shit regarding attitude etc. (with the one exception being rooney perviously) could rooney’s days be numbered? can you see a day soon with UNITED without rooney?
Just thinking outload
2-2 chelsea….reading
@proverb
There are times its the right thing to do.
We should have parked the bus @4:2 last time we played everton and we would have
Taken the trophy home.
What do you guys think of Messi’s 200million pound buy-out clause? Just saying….just saying.
@ devils own..
Mate feel free if its a balanaced point….
Adam – what post are you refering to mate? Did not understand.
Watching the chelsea game, looks like manager john terry is running out of ideas..
Is Luiz injured?
Lee martins : will give you the shorthand version. Used to post here six months back.. Got abused for apparently being an impostor, i wasnt. Didnt come back and comment, only read.
Just taking the piss out of cedars, its funny as fuck to see him bitching, have no grudges. No problems with any other posters either. Not that i have one with cedars.
I probably wont be bothering you for a while now. So cherio..
early doors admittadly but hazard does seem to be adjusting to the english game
Mike
Said the same Monday Tony can plug a gap at RB but a right RB he is not. I miss him marauding down the right wing, fast direct and the forwards profit from him
3-2 chelsea…reading went to fucking sleep at the back
Off-side
of Devils Own…stay mate …you are fun to have around…. a winder up …just like me…..
@ devils own
Mate, I get the abused bit and I would hate that also. But I would like to think that if you posted your football opinions you would be welcomed back. I maybe nieve but I like to think of genuine utd fans as a good set of people..
either way, laters
@Mike@ Giggs
Of course we missed him attacking, but that was because he was out of the game by being next to a weak CB pairing. If we get two actual CBs fit, we can spread them wider and allow the fullbacks to attack. IMO, that scenario is Valencia’s strongest position.
But this guys are playing some fucking good stuff though
Wave after wave
No mate tonybee.. You dont need me.. You have tons of others to abuse each day. And if you keep abusing me when will ya lick yer heros fat lebenese arse.
Lee Martin : i would. But then some fat cunt would call me a windup. Its better to read. Ignorance is bliss. Anyway. Later.
Louis
For me mate Valencia offers to much going forward to be shackled by defensive duties.
shame…bye then….
That tongue in cheek comment was anal.
haven’t you gone yet…..
but tasty though…mmmmm
D: Yeah Ashley Cole got a great assist….but does it make up for that haircut? No, I don’t think so.
cant wait for the fulham game
SIGH …. another soft & gentle super sensitive poster goes …. already missing him…will call you regularly Devils Own ….
So Chelsea eak out a win at the dump that is the bridge! A pen, a keeper fumble and an off side goal is what I hear.
I’m sensing a lot of negative energy on here, does anyone need their chakra’s aligning?
@lee martins winner. I do think that this could possibly Wayne Rooney’s last 2 seasons at the club. At this moment Wayne rooneys Uniteds most valubale asset in the team meaning that if United do decide to get rid off him they would get a hefty price and on top of that they would be getting rid of a player who i think has reached his peak now and wont get any more better the more he gets to 28+. United also have to consider his contract and how many years left he has on it so we get a good value for him. This could well be his last year at united i think we have to make the most out of this opportunity to sell as I personally think hes on a down curve from now on. Hes loss is not great, it just means we could get 3+ players who have better ability them him and we could also strengthen other positions with this money.
Is it time for Rooney go?? guys please respond we all want to know what you think.
Chakras …. what the fork are they….
Same old Chelsea, always cheating…
watching malaga in champs league tell you what folks isco is one hell of a fucking player….touted as a replacement if we didnt get moura tired towards the end but pure quality and only 20yrs old.he will be a major major star
This goalkeeper is a twat
He’s such a crazy fucker
Chelsea scored one hell of a easy goal
Chelski go top of table…
RE: Rooney, I don’t think he’ll be around next season. He will ask to leave.
Adam …not so sure of that….. rather SAF reined him in…as others have said he probably needs a kick up the ass….didn’t know he was a smoker ….and/or boozer…..
I feel that as a utd fan.. We are in some sort of twisted paradox.. With Chelsea and bitters playing like they are and winning and we are quite happily cutting our own throats from owners right down to players….
Hope this ends soon.. Pretty miserable at the mo!!
2 Chavski wins and 2 penalties both from ‘fouls’ on Hazard.
Could he be the new multimillionaire cheat at Chavski?
And Chavski handed another offside goal to help them to 3 points.
Same old, same old. Great to see the Olympic spirit of fair play and sportsmanship taking off at Chavski. Fat fucking chance.
No chance a Danny Welbeck would ever come through at that toxic, disgusting club.
rooney to leave no chance, and personally i would’nt want him to go,
Rooney will leave when fergie leaves i think possibly next year or the year after, it also depends which manager we do get that can also influence his decision. But I would gratefully show him out, pocket 65 million and easily get technically more sound players.
TonyBee
Fucked if I know? Some bird with a flowing White dress and flowers in her hair asked me ages ago at Glastonbury… Said it would centre me and provide me with positive energy. I declined and asked her if we could do a shot of tequila and have her stick her finger up my arse instead!
mikekelly …you crazy bastard,,,, hope she took the tequila/finger option …
@ Busby Babes.
Clubs should keep hold of their best player at all costs other wise if was not for then they wouldnt be challanging in anything. Rooneys case is different. Most of the people would agree they lost that sort of love with the player after what he made out of this club!!.. We may be in this situation again where Rooney does the same thing to us as he can do something stupid. dont you think??
Just for the record, TonyBee and I have never had anal sex, well not together anyway
Most Chelsea fans now believe that Eden Hazard is better than Messi.
Deluded fans
But he is one hell of a player is he Hazard. Can’t wait to see him against Man united.
Chav fan
No I can’t either! Should be fun seeing the little twat trudge off the pitch with Vidic’s boot up his arse!
TonyBee – I talked her round mate.
Chelsea fan
Do one and fuck off to the bridge, go find a bitch shag her, shag her until you realize there’s no fucking sense in shagging bitches
Fucking celebrate mate instead of trying to wind us up.
Thanks in advance
hazard does look like a good player, but so does our ninja……. time will tell who is better, but on a cold winter night away to bolton, when the rain is driving in your face, we will see who has the heart. my money is on our kamakazi…..
ooooooo aaaaaa kagawa
Hazard IS a good player and will only get better, a lot of butthurt fans rage about him not signing with United. He might be a cunt, but still a good player, he was the only one in Chelsea that did something usefull. But no surprise Chelsea get offside goals, we all remember Drogba at OT..
Could someone tell hazard that it takes time to settle in the premiership?
Cedars
Well funny response!
The Mail reckons:
Zeki Fryers will travel to Belgium on Thursday for talks over a transfer to Standard Liege. He has trained with Tottenham during pre-season but a move to another English club is complicated because any fee will be set by a tribunal if the clubs cannot agree, and United want £6million. Tottenham remain interested but Liege would be able to sign him for minimal compensation.
Cooked his own goose, did Fryers.
Chelsea have won the premiership
Oh wait not yet
Now I get it! The only reason why SAF chose Welbeck instead of RVP or Chicharito was because of his renewal… otherwise Danny will be upset and may change his mind about his future at MANU….common lads instead of being sooo nice with Welbz he needs to boost his ass, he hasn’t score many goals and he had a LOT of opportunities, the kid needs to start showing some progress and strikers need to score goals simple as that…..
I believe its time up for rooney at united.
When was the last time he bossed a game? A long long time ago.
Rvp will be the main man now along with welbeck, rooney cannot keep turning out shit games as he has done for the past two seasons & expect to be picked.
Cash in now while he still has a bit of credit,
I just dont rate him, world class never.
This has always been my opinion, hes treated this club like shit get rid.
I like manchester both united and city, I am fan from Dubai and i support both teams, one have history the other have the excitement and ambition.
why did have peoples support 2 teams in liverpool and brimingham and london, why not team manchester and team london and team liverpool, tomany teams, have fun and enjoy, I support whole city.
thank you for your time.
i will post someday in the future, take very well cares everybody.
welbeckstat
Welbeck started with Wayne because they have proved themselves, and we needed ‘continuity’ any way we could get it, with regular starters Carrick Valencia Rafael and Rio compromised.
Berbatov was on the bench because our Centre-Halves are running on less than a Quarter.
RVP was on the bench because he’s proven, new, versatile and needs game-time.
Pea had to split, but he shell be back.
Zeki Fryers no deal at Spurs! Standard Liege interested.
Would expect very low wages at Liege so plan seems to backfire badly for the lad
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192198/Manchester-United-outcast-Zeki-Fryers-Standard-Liege.html
united – I have a real apathy for Rooney these days, as long as he plays for us and is doing the business on the pitch, I’ll support him, if he goes, I don’t care. Also, not to be pedantic or anything but, United won the league for 3 consecutive years in 99/00/01, Ronaldo didn’t lead us to those.
Was that a shade of willie?
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What happened Sheikh, now you also supporting city?
Zeki situation (if true) is a little ironic given our current defensive situation at LB & CB. I believe he played both positions, certainly more at LB though. Kid would have gotten some playing time this season. Oh well- we replaced him with Buttner.
@ Cedars – I’ll try finding it pal cheers.
@ United. My views on Rooney haven’t changed. I couldn’t give a fuck about his overhead kick it didn’t wipe the memory of him being a complete cunt. If we can get good money for him I wouldn’t mind him going. I feel the same about Rio, although he seems to have matured now, I can’t help but remember his antics after the drugs ban. You made a good point about Rooney, since his increase in wages he hasn’t done anything to justify it. £220k a week you expect a VERY VERY effective and consistent player. Someone made the point a few days ago that Rooney’s goals generally hide his poor performances.
Bloody refs ALWAYS in Fergie’s pocket…
And yeah Welbeck is a freakin mercenary..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192269/Jonny-Evans-set-return-Manchester-United-squad-Fulham-game.html
sheik urbooti
who the fek are you? what a fekkin wind up.
first mcmummins (mummin troll) and a zappa rip off (sheik urbooti) what fuckin next.
There are some right plonkers on here.
http://m.mirror.co.uk/ms/p/tmg/mirror/sfJsiUykcRi_R-DQO91AOkg/view.m?id=3554669&cat=Mirror-Football-Top&guid=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-javier-hernandez-aiming-1274552
So my wish of Wayne Rooney leaving United has been granted..hahahha.could it just be??..could this be how he is looking for a move out?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4500077/Kai-Rooney-tries-out-a-brand-Nou-look-in-a-Barcelona-shirt.html
Two things I want responses to:
1. Why have an academy when there is almost a small chance of united players getting integrated into the first team?
2. Why does it take forever for united to realize potential in the academy?
The Pobga issue was quite unclear. United had a talented player in their academy, a very exciting prospect with a lot of potential that could have almost been Manchester United Patrick Viera as they are very similar both in athleticism and physicality, may we also not forget their technical abilities. Pogba had shown that he could make it at the highest level and thrive in Centre Midfield, almost empowering and outmuscling players in this position. He could score breath taking goals from 30 yards +, had confidence in moving the ball 50 yards down to the oppositions goal and scoring as well as producing scholes like 50 yeard cross field passes. He also had a great tackle and was great defensively. He had it all!!!!, But whos fault was it in letting him go???
There were many times in midfield last season where united were affected with lack of quality. Sir alex opted to use Rafael and Park ji sung as our two centre midfielders against Blackburn because of the “lack of players in this postion”. Pogba had already shown what he was capable of in reserves so why didnt fergie use the right player in the right position in that way you wont be weakening other positions and moving players to different positions that they are not good in??????????????????.
Fergie says Pogba wasnt patient enough, but I really think fegie wasnt really eager either. Had Pobga stayed United he would definitely been in our squad and possibly been in our first 11 for most the season to improve us defensively as we look quite week and fragile . Every united fan is so so eager for a defensive midfielder right now but we had already had one tailor made and ready for united in Pogba.
there were many times were Pogba could have been used but fergie choose not to, so Pogba was probably thinking why is he ruining his talent and working so hard for fergie not to realise!!!..he had other options all wanting to get him like man city, arsenal, chelsea and juventus because they all knew he was going to be some real talent as close to patrick viera even.
United should have given him the pay rise and signed a long contract and offered him a starting position to keep hold of him, instead we’ll be spending 25 millions pounds on someone else with higher wages, when pogba cost united nothing really if you think about it.. I Hope this does not happen to our current academy players in tunniclife, petrucci and lingard because they are all very talented and better than some of the players we have in our squad and DESERVE A CHANCE!!
@Eric Keane – I was referring to
“Thank god, sir alex doesnt think like some posters. Else we’d be filled with thugs devoid of any creativity who can only pass the ball backwards or sideways..”
@United.
I’ve stated this from the get go RE: “Fergie says Pogba wasnt patient enough, but I really think fegie wasnt really eager either”
in regards to Pogba, . We very easily could have retained him. That was a big fuck up. Not playing Pogba even when we had a game wrapped up , and instead keeping Scholes on the field for 90 mins when it wasn’t required really drove him away because it showed very little faith in him and that in all likelyhood the situation wouldn’t change for the next season and he wasn’t willing to sit on the bench for another year. I know a lot of the youth players “think” they’re ready, but he was.
I don’t believe for one second that it was purely money related. If it was, it wouldn’t have dragged out for that long.
Of course Fergie doesn’t know when a players ready, but people who post on a blog do. You think it wasn’t purely based on money, because it dragged on? It dragged on that long, because he couldn’t move until his contract expired. Believe me, he made his mind up long before the end of the season. As Fergie pointed out in a recent interview.
I don’t bare Pogba any ill will. He made his decision and that’s fine by me. He’s left United now though. Whats happened is in the past. Time for all parties to move on. While I can accept the lad wanted first team football, lets not kid ourselves money wasn’t a factor in his move to Juventus.
This is well and good, but what about quality midfielders & defense? We have many, many injuries over the past 2 or 3 seasons, what is United doing about it?
@ united
The Rooney issue is an interesting one. I’ve always thought he was a bit overrated, even though his stats are pretty good.. However, he has failed to justify his massive pay rise since that little incident that showed what little loyalty he had for the team. I feel that his days are definitely numbered as both his favoured number 9 & 10 positions are now covered by better players in those individual positions (RvP and Kagawa respectively). Furthermore, I think the fact that he likes to drop deep and leave us with no target man at the front could actually be his downfall if he’s not careful. There were a lot of instances where I felt that he was getting in the way of the Clev and Kagawa when he was supposed to be staying up in high. His work rate is never questionable, but the quality of his game is definitely not what it used to be. I know some fans use his last year’s goal tally as an argument, but how many those goals were penalties and how many of those games did we see Rooney at his devastating best?
I wouldn’t mind if we let him go tbh. He is still a brand, so if he does stay, it’ll be good for United. But with Kagawa and RVP, I feel we have better options. I can see Rooney being pushed to the wing in an attempt to field all 3 players. Bottom line is I feel its time for Rooney to be moved on as he seems to think he’s bigger than the club and he does get special treatment (like not getting dropped when not in form) which cannot be good for the dynamic of the team.
On a side note, Hazard has looked impressive for the Rent Boys. My money is still on Kagawa to be the more effective of the two over the course of the season though!
Mourinho also denies that Kaka is set for a move to Manchester United, after reports the 30-year-old will be loaned out to accommodate possible incoming midfielders such as Tottenham winger Luka Modric.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/341280/Manchester-United-have-not-made-bid-for-Kaka-says-Mourinho
Just fuck off u Nani haters! One bad nite, every plyrs incl, doesn’t justify selling him off! This boy has always been subjected to criticisms by media. He needs us fans to get by him instead of fuckin him up. Just bcos we have new plyrs, doesn’t mean we can forget the services he rendered! Come on Man Utd fans, we r bigger than this! Lets rally em, it’s e only thing we can do! Onwards #20
@Willie
I agree that what happened happened, and no need to dig up the Pogba saga for the sake of arguing about it. Since it was brought up on this thread I’m expressing my opinion. Of course money makes a difference in making a decision for players, but I don’t believe that was the biggest reason Pogba left. He’s expressed his desire for first team football as the dominating factor in his decision on numerous times in his last few months (giving him 15/20 mins of every other game would have made a difference in my opinion) and since it never arrived it was a big turn off. Considering that big clubs were waiting for his signature it shows that it’s not only people on this blog who thought he was ready.
Anyway I guess we’ll see whether he was ready for first team football soon enough.
First team football? and is he actually guaranteed that juve?.
HE HAS LEFT, MOVE ON.
I hear a lot of crap from people like “since he got his pay rise, Rooney hasn’t been effective/consistent. Hasn’t justified it”.
In the last 2 years he’s got 51 goals in 85 appearances, better than 1 in 2……how’s that for effective and consistent? Not to mention his performances in the second half of 2010/11, where he was sensational in the League run in and getting to the Champions League final (was our stand out player in that match too)
People will then come out with stuff like “his goals have hidden his poor performances”. Now there’s no doubting that in the last 8-9 months his all round game has become very poor (hence the signing of kagawa I think). But tbh, I’d take a player with that goal record any day of the week, despite his poor performances. How many players have got a record like that, its ridiculous that he’s being slated as “not effective” when he clearly is.
What I will say is that he’s no longer the magic flair player that he used to be. He’s a very effective and efficient player, and one of the best goalscorers in Europe. But the Wayne Rooney who could get you off your seat is gone IMO, either through a combination of injuries or poor attitude.
Btw, in addition to my above comment – in no way am I saying Rooney’s undroppable. Especially with the signing of RVP, we’ve got someone who can rival Rooney’s goal record, so I’m all for dropping Rooney to the bench if his performances are consistently poor. But for people to say he hasn’t cut the mustard since his pay rise is rubbish.
Willie – juve boast one of the strongest midfield about. Arturo vidal, kwadwo asamoah, andrea pirlo, marchisio, giovinco and many more. He’s joined a club that may affect his progress and i’m pretty sure the move wasn’t based on playing time. That greedy agent of his manipulated his mind, the hype has gone into his head. Demanding playing time and bigger wages rather than putting his head down, work hard and show why he should be a starter.
Fed up younger unproven players like these holding clubs to ransom. Look at ezekiel fryers, he may now end up at standard liege in belgium which will probably culminate with his career stagnating and for what? couple more bucks?.
Regarding pogba though, he has previously shown his true colours by moving from his first club to le havre and then controversially leaving to join united. We’re getting a taste of our own medicine.
Anyway, he’s gone and united will move on. The club has younger talented players capable of reaching great heights, importantly They all seem to possess that grounded mentality partly required to break in and then succeed at a top club. They’ll have to work hard but the manager will always keep an eye on them.
Lol even a regular wayne being bashed?Pathetic really.Just confirmed my worst fears.
This is completely off topic but I’m half pissed and watching High Fidelty,John Cusack is trying to figure out why he got rejected
Fuck me high class pussy costs doesn’t matter if its the wife,girlfreind or hooker.Men are stupid if you feed us and fuck us that’s it.Hottest women in the world just dumped their husband,boyfriend whatever been planning it for months,us dumb fucks clueless.Worst thing going out with a buddy who’s just been dumped dumb cunt never knew it was coming,the woman had been on a exercise regiment for 6 months
Its simple, Kagawa plays the No 10 Role better than Wayne Rooney does. Kagawa looks the complete player, hes touches are sublime, 9/10 times his through balls will make it to the forwards, he creates chances for the team including assists and hes got pace on the counter attack. He also uses the ball very well and manages to get himself out very tight positions with great skill and hes also always an option to pass to and has excellent ball retention. This is something wayne rooney completely lacked last season.
Against Everton Kagawa looked great. He set up most of our attacks and drove the team forward and returned that pace upfront that we have missed so much since the days of Ronaldo and Tevez. Kagawa is a genuine starter for United now and may be a really vital player for united in terms of feeding the forwards to score and linking up the play and getting the goals. Where does this leave rooney???…RVP last season scored 30+ goals more than Wayne Rooney and what I saw was a player hungry to score and dedicated to play for the team and lead them on his own as captain. United spent 24 million on RVP not to sit out every games but to make united more lethal and clinical upfront something we failed to do since the cole/yorke days and something Wayne Rooney struggles to do.
The only thing left now is what formation should united use to make full use of our attacking abilities as wells make us quite sound with defensive aspect of the game.
4-5-1 is the formation that best suits us i think:
De gea, rafael, vidic, rio, evra, valencia, carric, clevs, nani, kagawa, RVP..
United depend on their wing play alot and this should not change. We have the best wingers in the world in Nani and Valencia, they are speedy and powerful and are able to tear up and almost open them up teams down the wings and setting up opportunities to score.
United cant play RVP and Rooney together, either one of them plays or the other doesn’t because it would not fit our system and we have Kagawa who plays Rooney’s role more effectively.
Looks like we have signed hector herrera for a fee rising to 13.5 mil
eric keane….
Where, how, when???????????????????????????????? hahah
Reds galore if that’s reference to me can you give me time of post please
United : mate read it on twitter.. Thr guy in question isnt itk , he is quite reliable.. No shit.
If on twitter check @united finest
Hector Herrera Pre-Olimpic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVGUMTR3tBE&feature=player_embedded
The great Ruud teaching the young Danny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf9SOUOiNHQ&feature=player_embedded
David de Gea Vs Everton Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryVVIJulq2U&feature=player_embedded
our next best player 2012-2013
Sparkz – I agree his goal record has been better but although the average amount of goals is good it’s still sparadic. I know this happens with all strikers but a player of his ability should be doing better in his all round game. Unlike Hernandez, we know Rooney has a lot more about his than goals (not a slant on Chico I’m just stating Rooney’s currently not realising his potential).
He looked more dangerous 6 years ago than he does now, his appetite for football seems to be wayward and instead the appetite it being used on other things.
Goat
I think you’ll find the Shiek= McMummins or whatever= Sara = 911 = 3 or 4 more.
About Pogba, clearly some people are rating him based on what they see on Youtube. If he was really really really that good, that he can constantly score those 30yds strikes, would Sir Alex not have started him? Mind you, apart from those wonder strikes you see on Youtube what else did you notice about him? He wasn’t even the best player of the team!
Bottomline is, you don’t make a manager promise you game time, you force him to give you game time with you attitude and performance. Just ask Welbeck how it is done.
As gor Rooney & Nani, its only been 1 game. Surely they have done enough in the past to warrant many more chances. And the saving grace is we have players to step in for them. Imagine if it was Carrick & Cleverley who are badly out of form?
Goat Cheers mate. Thx for reminding me. But when I went to block Mr. mcmummins, he was no where to be found. Guess the RMM (righteous mancunian mafiosi) found his lair. Done!
It is easier said than done but Fergie should play players that are fit for the Fulham game.
Left depressed after Everton game so i really hope Fulham game would give me a much needed boost but it won’t be easy even at OT.
WellDoneBeck! Good to see his commitment.
Correction, found and blocked. Reading his tl you will find several posts in the same mold.
Very cheeky.
To the effect.
Danny_Mcmoomins
Kaka deal DONE: RT @somejournosTagLine Kaka has penned a 15 year deal. “I want play all my days at United and be embalmed at the Stretty end.
(warning: completely made up)
Actually funny if you know its crap.
Well done Danny, at least there’s still some loyalties. Its a pity lifelong Utd fan Frayers can’t follow your lead.
Fletch
Corea
Fulham gave us a tough game at the end of last season and if the penalty was given they’d have got a well deserved draw. COME ON REDS!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9493345/Manchester-United-and-Manchester-City-split-by-proposals-on-Premier-League-financial-controls.html
Finally a step in the right direction. Obviously sugar-daddy funded clubs will be against this, but this needs to happen. The salaries of players and overall costs of running a football club are getting way too out of hand.
Héctor Herrera deal, if true, must be for January transfer window. Lad reportedly picked up a knock at the Olympics and is out for a month. Logic seems he couldn’t pass the medical?!
That said, Michael Owen and Hargo both passed their medicals….. so not saying Hector couldn’t as well. One has to believe the staff at Bridgewater are blues. Hey!
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/mexican-club-say-they-ve-met-with-manchester-united-regarding-hec
King eric at 05:12
Looks like we have signed hector herrera for a fee rising to £13.5m.
Then said that heard it on twatter..
Well.. Here’s is the supposed tweet by the mister reliable:
Tweet from @United_Finest
@United_Finest: Reports in Mexico, United to announce Herrera’s transfer with a fee of 13,5M Euros.
utd_fc
Im half in favour of some sort of restraints on spending BUT am not a fan of “government” interering in business. The premier league is where it is today because of the freedom the clubs have. If a “salary cap” or equivalent undertaking was implemented then the benefits of playing in the premier league would be lost and we’d start to see stars leave for Europe where they could get the same deal, lower tax and sunshine.
Whatever rules are implemented couldnt be back dated in any case, thats basic law so all these reporters saying City wouldnt meet their targets is ludicrous as that is firmly in the past based on existing rules or lack of them. They are fundamentally against it as it interferes with freedom of the owners to “have a little play thing” and I tend to agree with them.
We’ve managed to impliment a system in Europe or atleast be a big factor in implementing a system now lets exploit that and not do the same here and be the stand out league. Wish Cameron and his cronies would do the same within the EU. Of course everyone will scream blue murder that its not fair but nor is the tax rate within a particular country for high incomes. We can argue as soon as there is parity in taxes in relation to wages then and only then should there be european wide financial restraints on clubs.
Otherwise we’ll see Rooney play for Milan getting £250 000 a week funded by a 70 000 seater stadium with a tax rate of 10% at cost to the club 275 000 where as in England he gets £200 000 a week funded by a 70 000 stadium at a cost to the club of 300 000 due to its 50% tax rate.
Not fair and no doubt a money grabbing player would start an exodus and then that will be that in regards the premier league.
Its euros not Pounds my mistake there
Goatnut
You’re always spot on mate keep up
Proverb
I tend to agree with you, lol
@Proverb. Cheers mate. Seems Herrera himself hasn’t been let in on secret. Heard nothing as of last night, when this interview seems to have taken place. At any rate, the lad seems the only one in Mexico not interested in talking it up. Cheers to him!
http://www.fichajes.net/noticias/herrera-le-quieren-en-inglaterra-20120823.html
Goat
Oh I fully agree. I don’t want any salary caps introduced in the premier league, think those will be taken care of by basic spending rules in general. Once firms start spending within their means the avg salaries of players will have to normalize according to the size of a club and its budget.
Also, since this system is (hopefully) being applied in Europe too that means whether or not the LaLiga big two, or the italians or the german top teams like it, they will have to succumb to it also if they want to play in the Champions League.
I see your point about the tax rate though. There is no way all of England is going to cut their tax rate all of a sudden and other countries bumping up income tax in such a drastic fashion is probably going to cause riots all over the bloody continent. Maybe there’s some bylaws they can add which account for income before tax rather than post tax?
Also, even though City won’t be asked for their previous transgressions and questionable (to say the least) business moves at least they will have to balance their books in the end, and that in its own will call an end to their astronomical transfer figures and weekly salaries. That in it’s own should even up the playing field considerably.
Sorry I just wanted to ask are we really in for this Herrera guy? I saw a bit of him on youtube. He’s box to box, can tackle and can defend. Would be nice if we were in for him.
The tax discrepancy seems to be a major problem as this would normalize many for the higher salaries.
I wonder if the clubs could argue restriction of trade since the market is clearly pan european. Politicos would have a field day ofcourse.
Really hard to tell what is up with Herrera. He and his agent seem mum. So are United. Only one talking is the VP of the club. And he has been talking about it since pre Olympics if I recall correctly.
sportswitness comes to the conclusion that the VP likes to talk up the player.
http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/hector-herrera-has-earned-the-offer-of-his-life-from-manchester-u
@goatinaunitedshirt
What’s wrong with implementing UEFA FFP in to The Premiership?
Top players aren’t going to move to other leagues where they pay more because they won’t be allowed to play in Europe anyway.
It will make no difference to United because they are already operating under UEFA FFP anyway.
There is nothing wrong with saying football clubs should operate within their means and grow organically and gradually rather than a billionaire investor coming in and throwing money about skipping 10 years of natural development.
It isn’t fair that a club say like Arsenal for arguements sake are run sensibly and then billionaires like Man City and Chelsea come along and blow transfer fees and wages out of the water. Can you imagine a world where only Man City, Chelsea, and PSG were the only clubs that would be able to sign top players because they’ve raised transfer fees and wages beyond everyone else. That is the direction we are currently heading towards without UEFA FFP.
Thanks Fletch.
Usain Bolt wants Rio Ferdinand to help him popularize reggae music from Jamaica:
“If we do this together, we could take it to a new level. Not since Bob Marley, have we had a musician famous all over the world, and believe me, it’s nothing to do with lack of talent. Our musicians are as good as our sprinters. It just needs people with global fame like me and Rio to move things.”
“We could have a side part of the business that organised music videos for artists in Jamaica. If Rihanna wanted to film one I’d personally go and pick her up from the airport while Rio was at the beach overseeing the film crew!”
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You run the beach crew Usain, Rio can handle Rihanna (with my help!)
Cheers Danny.
Silly season innit? Given last couple seasons, who would expect talk of more after already bringing in
Shinji Kagawa MF
Nick Powell MF
Angelo Henriquez Striker
Alexander Büttner LB
Robin van Persie Striker and then some
£53.9M so far by my count if you believe we paid 24 for RvP
Cheers guys!
Here’s another link @dannysoya
This time its the guardian at it..
http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/aug/23/manchester-united-mexico-hector-herrera?cat=football&type=article
WUM detected:
Players who have quit Arsenal over the last seven years have amassed 44 winners’ medals between them at 11 different clubs, while those who stayed at the Emirates have empty trophy cabinets.
Full story: the Sun
AlphaRS
Growing organically. No problem around you with the BS eminating from your cake hole – only joking – where did you learn to say things like organically. Lol, Ive always believed the only way to get rid of pests was with chemicals – nevermind. lol.
My simple question to you is why? Why shouldnt a football team like any other business in the world not get a new investor who wants to throw money at it. If anything teams like PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City liven up a very stale period during the summer. If it wasnt for their big spending we wouldnt be spending now and having a buzz around here because of Kagawa, Powell, Buttner, vPersie etc etc. Why the need to spend if no one else is. It really is up to the management of clubs to run their clubs wisely AND should an owner run their clubs into the ground then maybe a regulation should come in that states such an chief executive should face jail time.
I also think its fantastic that City have a rich owner who is prepared to pump in oil money to fill the states tax coffers. A wonderful site to see our petroleum money getting spent in our country for once.
The FFP rules is enough and like I said. If we have a higher tax rate then why should we have to have further restrictions when the rest of Europe dont follow suite.
As far as Im concerned good luck to City Chelsea and PSG (no hang on fuck the french – not PSG). You mention Arsenal and their good way of doing business. 1. They are fine as they are and competitive they just recieved 24million for a 29 year old on his last year of a contract. They also got 15million for Song which was amazing. 2. If there were any real problems then Im pretty sure the board would be under pressure to sell more shares to Kroenke or that russian fellah.
Personally I like the excitement it bring and I relish the challenge.
Well if you like reading between the lines: Here is a very strange post on manutd.com
Those hoping for more signings might take note on:
” … just the confirmed ones….” and
” Keep checking manutd.com/newsignings2012 for new content ….over the next week or so, at least until this busy transfer window closes on 31 August. ”
Today at OT
10:24 Speaking of van Persie, the special area of the site we devoted to his arrival has now grown into a section celebrating all of our new signings this summer – just the confirmed ones, mind you. Keep checking manutd.com/newsignings2012 for new content on RvP, Alexander Buttner, Kagawa and Nick Powell over the next week or so, at least until this busy transfer window closes on 31 August. (AB)
Well honestly….. there is nothing in it. But then again, maybe there is?!
http://www.manutd.com/en/Fanzone/News-And-Blogs/2012/Aug/today-at-old-trafford-manchester-united-blog.aspx
Hearing that 2 major newspapers will have the Evra to Liverpool deal on front page tommorow. Remember where you heard it first.
To good…
Friend and Mullarkey to referee United v Fulham:
http://www.premierleague.com/
Referee: K Friend
Assistants: M Mullarkey, J Flynn
Fourth Official: P Gibbs
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/match-officials-appointments-august-25-26.html
Jonny Evans set to return to Manchester United squad for Fulham game http://t.co/ADt7Bh5v via @MailOnline Finally some good news.
Interesting article by Matt Stanger on Football 365 (sorry don’t have the link).
Basically, he’s saying what I’ve been saying all summer. That Fergie will not buy a holding midfield player because that would mean changing the new philosophy he is trying to install in the team.
Where, realistically, would a player like Tiote for example fit in at Utd? Put simply, he wouldn’t. Carrick is the imposing figure in our midfield in terms of height, but he can also dictate the pace of our play. If we are lacking anything it is a player of similar stature (ie: height). From looking at him, that’s why the link with Herrera is understandable. I can see the argument that Utd’s midfield is perhaps ‘too nice’ but a midfield destroyer is not something I can see Utd ever investing in. Fletcher is the nearest thing we have to that but he is by no means simply a player who breaks up play and then gives it to others to create.
Certainly, we need our midfield to be at their best when retaining possession because that is going to be our main gameplan and how we’re going to win our midfield battles, by keeping the ball.
After 1match, Friend leads all refs in both Yellow (6) and Red (1) cards.
Any complaints this Saturday should likely be direct at the line assistant…. Mr Mullarkey, ofcourse?!
To good…
Friend and Mullarkey to referee United v Fulham:
Referee: K Friend
Assistants: M Mullarkey, J Flynn
Fourth Official: P Gibbs
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/match-officials-appointments-august-25-26.html
Proverb
If that happens I’ll sell all my wordly possessions and become a Monk!
Proverb
Evra to Liverpool, heard it here first! Do you state your reputation on that?
Evans back will be better for the team but still not idea as Evans likes to play left sided CD as does Vidic. So even though its good news still alog ways from perfect. I think its pretty clear with all the time Rio has missed the past 3 or 4 years and the fact he isnt getting any younger we need a new CD in the already made and playing mould. No prospects!
On another note but relating to Liverpool, I would do a swap with them for Enrique. I never rated him with Newcastle and th eway they play, not his fault I guess behind that muppet Guitierez but Enrique impressed me at times last year. Hes also a near 6 footer that means if we play Rafael on the right we play Enrique on the left and have 3 6footer or near 6 footers for defending set pieces. Just a thought.
Now, I get as frustrated as the next man at times with the sideways-backwards-sideways slow passing that has crept in more and more into Utd’s play in recent years. However, this is a clear ploy to try and tire teams into submission. As Everton proved, this willl sometimes not work when teams appear to have a higher work-rate than Utd (also see Bilbao) and defend with numbers. Generally though, Utd will wear teams out, particularly at Old Trafford.
I’m not saying that I want Utd to play a slow, sometimes predictable style of possession football all the time. Certainly, the apparent unwillingness to shoot and try and walk the ball in annoys the hell out of me at times. Flicks and one-twos look great when they come off around the box but when players are not ‘at it’ (see Rooney on Monday), this style of play will at times reduce our ability to create chances and score goals.
However, Fergie obviously thinks that keeping possession is king and is the way to go so who are we to argue. We’ll certainly win more than we’ll lose playing this way but I fear we’ll see more instances of Utd dominating the ball but failing to put sides away.
Sahin is still available Get him United please.
Parry….. not a Scholes mind. But a cross between Vidic and Carrick maybe. Might free up some creativity from Clevers and Carrick that has been missing since Fletcher went sick.
What price are the virus looking for? Heard that Arsen was in but changed mind because not as skilled as needed. But Arsen dismissed Vidic as well…. To each their own?
But its all foot manager innit? Don’t think we are interested are we?
Nope goat
He may not go there lol , him and suarez would be like cat and mouse
But what I’m saying is that a few papers will print that on the back page tomorrow
*** footy manager ****
FletchTheMan.
Is actually available on a One year loan (Wages only) Real got him from Kagawa’s club for around 10mill.And you have hit the nail on the head re Darren Fletcher type of player,if he was here and successful then it would be worth negotiating with Real at the end of his loan if not then tata.Win Win as far as I can see.
Its worth a read on a slow day:
Never write off Manchester United, as Alan Hansen knows!
Stuart Mathieson
August 23, 2012


The opening night critics predicting a harrowing season for Sir Alex Ferguson’s latest Manchester United reincarnation would do well to remember one chastised Alan Hansen.
The Reds of 1995 were reeling from an opening day thrashing at Aston Villa when they’d been 3-0 down at half time and could only dredge up one consolation goal.
As they skulked back home to Manchester and tuned into Match Of The Day that bleak Saturday evening, BBC pundit Hansen kicked Fergie’s new look side while they were down.
Having lost title-winning Dream Team players Paul Ince, Andre Kanchelskis and Mark Hughes during the summer of discontent, Fergie had promoted the raw Class of ‘92.
Buoyed by the May ‘95 Champions League success by Ajax’s team of young stars, the United boss believed the time was ready to advance the careers of FA Youth Cup winners Gary Neville, Nicky Butt, Paul Scholes, David Beckham and Phil Neville.
All were on duty in the Midlands on that fateful day and ex-Liverpool defender Hansen famously poured cold water on Fergie’s ambitious transformation of the Reds saying, “You’ll never win anything with kids.”
United have only lost one opening match since. But that ‘95 reverse ended up with the mix of the new generation and the warriors from the ‘93 and ‘94 back-to-back title wins securing the club a second domestic FA Cup and League double.
But Gary Pallister, the defensive rock of the Dream Team and one who suffered at Villa Park 17 years ago, admits that while Hansen went out on a limb with his now infamous quote he was only going public with a feeling others secretly harboured.
Even United’s dressing room wasn’t fully convinced about Fergie’s revolution.
Vital
“To be honest, even the senior players were not sure how we would fare,” Pallister told M.E.N. Sport.
“We thought ‘God Almighty we’ve lost those three big vital players, how are we going to cope?’
“I didn’t think we’d struggle badly but I have to confess a number of us were wondering if the title might be beyond us for a while as the kids found their feet.
“We certainly weren’t kidding ourselves and thinking we’d be title favourites again and would steamroller the league.
“We knew the young lads had ability but this wasn’t a reserve match or an ‘A’ team game it was playing in front of 50,000 in games that really mattered when everyone is hanging on everything you did. It is a different matter entirely.
“You never knew how they would react to such bad publicity after that Villa defeat.
“We were abject on the day. We were naive and there was no hiding place and there was a lot of negativity outside of Old Trafford.
“I remember hearing about Alan Hansen’s words the next day and that added to the bad press we were getting. I think he’s a good pundit and to be truthful he was only voicing what a lot of people were thinking.
“I think a lot of United fans were having the same thoughts if we are being honest. You just don’t know how younger players are going to react to that kind of backlash.
“Though some of the senior players had a few doubts there was certainly no panic inside the dressing room.”
United hit back with two Old Trafford wins against West Ham and Wimbledon and then an away victory at Ewood Park against title holders Blackburn Rovers set the ball rolling on a virtually unstoppable march to double glory. The senior birth of the Class of ‘92 had gone from trauma to triumph.
“The manager talks a lot about trusting his players and always you have to trust him in return,” Pallister added.
“As I said, we all had our niggling secret concerns about what he had done but ultimately we knew he could build title-winning teams. He believed in the young players and they delivered.
“There are always sceptics around doubting Sir Alex Ferguson and Manchester United and time after time he and the club answer those critics.”
Ferguson’s latest new look Reds saw Shinji Kagawa and Robin Van Persie make appearances in the 1-0 defeat at Goodison. That opening day shock now has the doubters wondering if the £50m summer investments in the two debutants at Everton, plus Nick Powell and Alexander Buttner, has been enough to enable the Reds to keep pace with champions City.
“It wasn’t a good day at Everton just as it wasn’t at Villa Park but again there will not be any panic coming from the manager,” said Pallister.
“That will be put to bed now. Let’s look on the positives. Kagawa had a good debut and I think in Tom Cleverley’s appearance we saw the player we got last season before his injuries.
“I also fully believe that now Robin Van Persie has got his debut out of the way and once the team gets to know him more we will have a better cutting edge.
“There is still plenty to be happy about.”
Clubs circle around Manchester United duo Nani and Berbatov
: “The truth is that so far I know nothing about what is happening, I am not aware. From what I’ve heard there has been some news, but I have had no approach from the Pachuca club president or the people from Manchester. If given the opportunity to emigrate to European football, of course I’d go but I have wait to see what the club officials say. I did not expect it so soon, I did not expect these big clubs to be tracking me after such a short time, but this is the result of the sacrifices I have made. There wasn’t any approach or any talks and I haven’t had the pleasure of getting to know Chicharito.” hector herrera
Kaka and Nuri Sahin out of Real Madrid squad for the game against Barcelona.
Nuri Sahin has passed his medical at Arsenal, according to SSN in Germany. One-year loan deal.
But what about kaka?
Is he really coming?
i don t think the likes of hector herrera or Nuri Sahin will resolve our problem in md
what we need in my opinion is a physical player, i can t see us going for witsel or martinez or tiote because of the big fee but dembele would be perfect we could get him for around 10£m
Nuri sahin is arsenal bound
But what concerns me is that in past days were circulating rumours on twitter quoting man utd are trying to land kaka on a year long deal
Now that they don’t even make the squad, one would think its actually true
IMO our squad doesn’t need a kaka sort of player if we were not to offload nani.
Now I fucking want this window to close quickly, heard enough bollocks already
Proverb .. You want to change your username to ‘The Oracle’ …
Either you have a vivid imagination…. Or shit for brains…
That’s a joke… Devils own … Not bullying… Still missing you xx
WeAreRed – never ever write rooney off, its the start of the season, and RVP has not even played a full 90 mins in a united shirt, and with RVP’s injury record, I will wait and see how he gets on for the season ahead. Rooney will come good, and as always, he will score close to 30 goals this season, which is not bad for a player who is overrated
Where is everybody?
Have they all done a runner to the other site?
Tony bee, no need to miss me you clit. Go lick your big daddy C’s fat arse.
Devil’s own
You are being rude, and we are all affected. Stop.
Post intelligently, or not at all.
http://blog.footballrascal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Nani-v-Ronaldo-100-games.jpg
this pic, doesnt prove nothing that the truth, Nani isn’t that bad and inconsistent as you think.
The difference is, Ronaldo was destined to become a legend in the football game, and Nani hasn’t yet done that! Anything else is just stupid speculations.
WeAreRed @ 02:08: ” the fact that he likes to drop deep and leave us with no target man at the front could actually be his downfall if he’s not careful.”
You could be referring to Dimmy but, I know, you’ve stated this in connection with TheWayneBoy.
Without a doubt, he was rarely central AND forward on Monday night. How many times did TheLads – the other lads ! – have the ball around the Everton defensive perimeter with no one inside the box ?
I doubt that this lack of positional discipline will “be his downfall” but it might just hasten his shift to midfield to play there in place of TheGingerNinja.
Read an article this morning talking about Rooneys fitness, taking his place for granted and that Sir Alex isn’t afraid to pull the plug when he feels a player is expendable
The theory is RVP could have been signed to evenually replace Rooney not compliment him and that Sir Alex won’t have forgotten Rooney’s betrayal
Rooney I think has three years left on his contract if this was to happen would have to be next year
I still don’t understand why Rooney was given extra holidays to go party in the states,last thing he needed
Wayne : dont agree mate. Dont think SAF would do that. Rooney always takes a few games to get going after every injury or each time he misses a game. Dont think too much should be read into his lack of fitness..
Dreadedred : dont think rooney will be played in midfield unless there is a crisis. I think we are well covered there, what with the impending arrival of hector herrera..
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/FzJGKWJhjpU/Mexico+Men+Official+Olympic+Football+Team/KgqJ1ZaAxUJ/Hector+Herrera
Hector herrera he’ll scare ya..
Eric Keane just someones theory,from a personnel stand point never been impressed with Rooneys lack of professionalism and his boozing,prime example was last xmas when he was suspended.
Always thought it could eventually be his undoing
Eric… Hopefully more like this then
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/summer-olympics-mexico-hector-herrera-in-action-during-mens-news-photo/150285714
Herrera >>> Moura
Here’s a scout report on our target hector herrera
Mexican midfielder Hector Herrera had an excellent Olympic tournament and is now being strongly linked with a move to England, we check him out.
Born just south of the American-Mexican border, Herrera was spotted early on by scouts for Pachuca – who took him into their youth set-up.
He progressed well, but all his formative years were spent playing on loan at a number of their affiliated clubs.
He performed for Cuautla, Titanes Tulancingo and Jaiba Brava before eventually returning to top-flight Pachuca.
Indeed Herrera was not even brought into Pachuca’s first-team squad until last year and his debut came just over 12 months ago.
But Herrera soon settled in well and was quickly a first-team regular and he was awarded the Golden Ball in his homeland for the best ‘rookie’ in the league.
His performances saw him called into Mexico’s youth set-up and he was named in their Olympic squad where he again became an integral figure.
Before playing in London, Herrera was already attracting interest from a number of foreign sides – with Liverpool said to be at the head of the queue.
Manchester United are also now on his trail as they are eager to land the dynamic young midfielder.
Herrera is a combative, all-action midfielder – box to box, who is not afraid to put his foot in – although probably not his finest asset. He is a good all-rounder, with skill and who can pass.
Wayne : if you doo watch cricket, im sure you will know a tempereramental batsman by the name of yuvraj singh. Plays for india. Smokes drinks is extremely unproffessional and yet is extremely talented.. Such characters are a part of each team.. I dont think it will lead to rooney’s downfall.. If he doesnt improve it will soon lead to kick up the arse from sir alex though
The biggest knee jerk reaction award after the first game goes to our dear old sparky,
After losing 5-0 he has bought michael dawson ricardo carvalho and now julio cesar has landed in london ready to sign with QPR.. This is in addition to fabio who got from us on loan..
Fletch
By signing herrera we’ll be in contention for the FUGLY award..mthough city might beat us to it, they have vincent frankenstein kompany and carlos bootstrap tevez..
Eric keane
You’re forgetting lescott here, we’ve no chance in that league
City takes it hands down
Eric, I’ll bet 2nd division Mexican league is the type of boot camp that some of our lads should face. Non league would be no comparison of the pits those lads have to play in. Likely not a clean flush toilet in a 5k of some of the places they play. No joking. Make a lad think hard about his quality.
Eric keane – How likely is this hector herrera signing or is this another twitter invented rumour?.
Eric Keane no mate don’t watch cricket anymore,don’t need the same fitness levels imo
I’m actually surprised that no smoking isn’t in the contract.Rooney is a great player but could be argued never fully lived up to his potential he was supposed to be right there with Messi and Ronnie
Smoking and drinking will eventually catch up with anyone.Honestly don’t think the theory is that far fetched
Ooh and well done Danny lad.Fucking brilliant news.
Let’s sign Felani(spell.?) and win the title.
Samuel : his clubs chief scout is in manchester for talks.. Pachchua’s president who’s as chatty as whelan revealed today that they have official interest from united.. Liverpool are also thought to be in the running. The chief scout is the same guy who refered us to sign chicho..
A friend who is usually quite reliable and isnt an itk tells me the signing is very likely.. So i guess it might happen.
@FITB – while I agree Rooney shouldn’t be written off we shouldn’t get too carried away with him either mate. To be honest I’d be surprised if he manages to score 30 plus in all competitions this season. Not because he lacks talent, I just doubt his professionalism
He’s only scored 20 plus EPL goals twice in his 8 years at United. When you look at it like that he is a tad bit over rated. Nistelrooy did it four times in 5 EPL seasons and Henry did it five times in 8 EPL seasons. Wazza isn’t in the same league, but some people act as if he is.
Even before his demands my only concern was he’d fade before his time. I doubt he takes his fitness seriously, and it goes without saying turning up drunk is a piss take for a grown lad, so if im honest I can understand the indifference some feel towards him.
Like wayne said @15:05 our “talisman” needs to act like a professional if he really thinks he’s got another 10 years at the top.Young defenders want to be signed by Fergie so reputation won’t save Wazza when he’s puffing and panting thanks to fags.
I’d love to see him score another 30 but im glad the manager isn’t banking on it. RVP is approaching 30 but still looks in better shape than 26 year old Wazza, and thats called professionalism. Rooney needs to sort his head out and not just because of Monday night.
Its easy to say its make or break for Chica or Ando, but the truth is Rooney is under the most pressure, and he’s brought it on himself for more reason then one. I wish him the best but he doesn’t seem to have the professionalism needed to BE the best. I hope he proves me wrong!
Come on Wazza! Make it 3 times in 9 EPL seasons!
Wayne – true, the only point i intended to make was, lifestyle generally doesnt describe talent.. But yes, so far rooney has under-achieved imo..
It’s a fact Rooney needs to put himself in a tougher fitness regime than most players. Looks to have the genes of a chubby teletubby. I feel his pre-season should start much earlier than most players as he takes couple of games to get in tip top shape.
As a player, he has evolved into a more consistent efficient finisher rather than the creator in chief. For me, his technical ability is still there but he needs to step his game up. If he doesn’t, we now have players of equal quality that will displace him.
What Rooney needs to do is very simple. STOP SMOKING FOREVER and cut down on drinking. I’ve never seen Messi or Ronaldo Smoke and they BARELY drink. Rooney is ADDICTED to these things which is why he keeps blowing up by the second. He must understand that he is a SPORTSMAN. A cigarette is the kryptonite to ANY sportsman’s fitness no matter how much talent you have. He needs to put in the work and stop smoking. It would be good for him, for his family and for the club. He has just as much talent as ANYBODY in football right now but he does not want to ditch his old useless habits. I REALLY hope he get the wake up call to stop smoking and drinking excessively. He’s a good player and I don’t want to sell him but I want him to get even better and this is the only way he can do that. I expect to see a better rooney on Saturday hopefully. All is not lost at all.
Fulham lodge an official complaint againt pool cause of their pursuit of dempsey.
Maybe cause pool offered them carroll in exchange.
Eric keane – Ok, that sounds more likely than not. We’ll find out in the next few days if anything officially concrete comes out of it.
Samuel – yes it would seem so.. Hope he is a great buy, if it all works out
http://www.google.com/gwt/x?hl=en&u=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1299753/Wayne-Rooney-smoking-urinating-street-wonder-Manchester-United-hero-puff.html&q=does+wayne+rooney+smoke&sa=X&ei=FUg2UNjbNaq40QXPnYDYBA&ved=0CBwQFjAA
Zeki fryers signs for standard liege. What a waste
@ Eric Keane
Now that’s some funny shit. Pool couldn’t off load Carroll to Portsmouth right now, on a free transfer, whilst still paying his wages!
Official: Zeki Fryers has signed a two-year contract with Standard Liège. [15:31:29]
The club announced earlier today
That story is from 2 years ago surley he has sorted himself out by now.
From United to Standard Liege, what a fall from grace for Zeki!
If Rooney doesn’t sort his life style out he should be sold. He might be a great player, but it wont last and what example does it set to the younger players? That’s where the damage will be done.
Samuel @ 15:53: “As a player, he has evolved into a more consistent efficient finisher rather than the creator in chief. For me, his technical ability is still there but he needs to step his game up.”
TheWayneBoy has never been a “technical” player like, say, TheGingerNinja; what Rooney has is incredible drive/energy/testosterone in his play – like, say, Keane-o and/or Gattuso.
In fact, rather than needing to “step his game up”, I’d argue that he needs to be less of a street-footballer and be more of a team-player so that when he’s playing as a center forward, he plays centrally AND forward.
TheWayneBoy’s AchillesHeel is his lack of professional discipline – he’s gone a long way to curbing his temper but he still wanders too much and gets in the way of his team-mates.
In contrast to those who think that TheWayneBoy’s lack of fitness – and commitment to a professional athlete’s life-style – my view is that he’s a guy who can (and will) play into his late thirties as long as he’s not crocked by injuries. To do that, he needs to channel that energy/drive/testerone into playing as one of a collective and not allowing his instincts to lead him astray.
Easier said than done, of course. But the guy is not unintelligent – just uneducated/polished. He seems to be “learning” about himself and his professional responsibilities – having Giggs/Scholes as well as Edwin and RedNev around him for the last eight years seems to be rubbing off and smoothing his rough edges.
seems like Herrera can take a head kick.
http://gif.mocksession.com/2012/08/olympic-headkick/
Glory Glory Man C!
whats with everyone slating rooney!? hes going to beat bobby charlton’s all time top scorer record and he was the main driving force for us last season finishing on the same points as city in the league. he was our top scorer and would have got the golden boot if it wasnt for RVP .. who now happens to be a united player. i cannot wait to see them both starting upfront and as far as im concerned, rooney can smoke, do crack, down a keg a night an have a 300 people orgy with 70+ year old women, aslong as he carrys on with the way he played last season im more then happy. if your going on ONE game against everton then stop being a bunch of morons and support Mancheter Uniteds players. no matter what they do or how they play, if they wear the united shirt and have SAF’s approval then i cannot ask for more!
cant beleve this has even became a debate
also id prefer fellaini above hector herrera by far. this isnt because the game the other day but comparing him to yaya toure last season he actualy outplayed him in many important departments. he scored more, got more tackles, had a better percentage of shots on target and whats more he will add steel to our midfield that we havnt had for a while. also i wouldnt be surprised if he could play at centre back aswell as behind the main striker
as for zeki fryers… WHAT A NOB.. made me laugh alot. serve him right for taking his agents advice and try to get moe money elsewhere
Glory Glory ManC!
glory glory man u .. go fuck yourself you suck out cunt. when you slithered out of your mums scabby, smelly forbidden hole you should have been put in a jar you fucking liability to the human race. fucking split condom!
Empires rise and fall. That is a difficult truth to swallow. From the dawn of the human race era, empires have risen to their peak and then become dust. I am a follower of Man U club and its sad to see our club in a decline.
There have been number of factors, rise of blue moon with their sheer spending power, decline of attractiveness of Man U club, fergie retiring in near future. Rome din’t get dusted in a day, same holds true for Man U. They will decline in 4-5 years. It is the natural path.
We will lament the clubs glory days.
Fryers must be off his fucking nut. What a waste . Best of luck to the lad and I hope he does not regret it, though I doubt it . Good luck kid .
Glory Man U
“Man U club”
Are you serious ?
Glory glory man u : stop with the piss-taking. You were better bearable when you posted as 911
Empires rise and fall. But United empire will always rise, fall and rise again.
Empires: Blackburn (1994,1995), Arsenal (1997, 2001, 2003), Chelsea (2004, 2005, 2009), Shitteh (2011)
United Empire: 1993, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, ____________ < — watch this space!
You guys still feeding the troll? He’s clearly bored because he can’t get on Jeremy Kyle and you guys must be bored to keep telling him to fuck off etc… What do you think telling him fuck off going to do! Stop? lol. He’s winding you up and it’s working.
Glory glory man u must be pissing herself in her sky blue shirt. Treat the comments with indifference, as we Know she is no fan. Simple.
Glory glory – Some people try to disguise how idiotic they are but you always make it blatantly clear as it can be. Obsessive coward city fan, always on here with some ridiculous mythical crap, hiding away like your manager mancini does with his mind games. Prick.
I’d rather go with one game at a time mentality but united definitely need proper centre halves to play When we go away to southampton. United will be facing ricky lambert, i just cannot see Carrick working well against him.
Was Wazza unfit 11-12 season ?
Cmon, people, i have only one thing on my mind. We should play every 2-3 days in order to get ourselves away from conspiracy theories based on one SINGLE game.
Or maybe another way, to get ourselves involved into real life activities rather than raising click counter at RoM.
Le mouvement c’est la vie.(c) Sorry for my English.
As for Zeki Fryers. That’s life for you.
Hector Herrera eager for Manchester United chance after ‘official interest’ lodged http://t.co/6Q8J1qPT
I wish Rooney gets back to full fitness, I’ve said it before…I am concerned about his professionalism/discipline and inability to get fit at the start of most seasons (barring injury of course). Either way he is clearly on of our star players and bangs them in season after season. The problem (I suspect) with most of you reds on here is that you are projecting other players unto Rooney. Do not compare Rooney to Messi, Ronaldo, or even Romario, Hulk (players who share his body type). He isn’t and never was a highly technical player who can pass (ala Scholes), trap the ball (ala Berbatov), dribble (ala Ronaldo/Messi). He has lots of heart, drive, will, and instinct to put himself in the good positions..hence the goals. Even though he isn’t masterfully skilled like the experts listed above…he has all round skill, and can do a bit of everything. Love Rooney- hope he has another season full of goals like the last one. Incredible player!
To be honest, if Rooney keeps banging in the goals, with RvP beside him, I don’t really care about other aspects of his game being 100%. United have the creative players now, to feed our forward line. If the service is right, we’ll not only score loads of goals, but we’ll also batter the fuck out of teams, too. Rooney doesn’t need to be all things to this current side. Exactly why the boss signed Van Persie and Kagawa. Not only was it a message to Rooney, it also represented his anger with losing the title on GD. It takes the scoring slack, and the creative pressure off Rooney. The bigger issue for Rooney, is his fitness. If can Sort that out, he’ll be one of our most productive players again.
Traffordlord
You couldnt be more off base. Rooney is all those things or should I say “was”. I’ve heard opinions deride others who feel his goal scoring exploits masks the shortcomings. Sure we all remember the van the man. Scored a Shit load of goals but after the gaffer and we fans got a taste of Ronaldo it was Rudd van who.
Those goal stats are truly fantastic but he’ll quickly find out there more to the story of a legend at United. He’d better turn it on soon because if the other talented players we have got in the squad gel quicker he’ll get a taste of what the bench feels like. Not because of fitness issues but because there’s another player better suited to the job. I believe we’ve for such a squad now and SAF can do it against Fulham if he wanted to.
Oh zeki. Gone and blew his own balls off. Ah well. Some more enforcement strategy needed perhaps in the academy. We seem to be doing only half the job right.
He’ll play against Fulham. I’d bet your house on it!
blown*
Denton – Rooney is not a basic “all heart and workman” type of player. Technical ability differs and can be translated how ever a person wants to. Rooney does possess the first touch, vision, passing range, shooting e.t.c and i would consider those all technical abilities. His lack of professionallism means this talents desert until he gets back in his groove.
I think we have to accept what he is now which is a more clinical efficient finisher. He’s more matured on the pitch now but i agree that he could be more disciplined in terms of positioning but on another hand, FERGIE wants to introduce a more fluid and flexible style. Positional interchange will be crucial, Rooney’s knack of floating about might benefit united.
Personally, i would say let’s get behind him and the team. His return to form will only benefit united. No point comparing him to messi or Rooney, they’re different specimens to him but i still feel he’s a quality player.
Ronaldo* damn typo.
Not sure why we are putting so much emphasis on Rooney’s current form when you all should know by now it takes him a few run of games to get into form. Ferguson has said it before when he comes back from injury, holiday or suspension. So give him a chance and he’ll come good for us.
Bottom line is that Rooney is a world class player, and now that he’s partnering with the likes of RvP and Kagawa he’ll find that as additional motivation to get better.
I’ll bet my left nut on it.
Just pointing out the option
Hey, you in touch with KE much?
@ Slim
Thanks for the comment mate. I guess we will agree to disagree. I have never thought Rooney (or any other English player since Gascoigne for that matter) was a technician…he has been a powerhouse player with a bit of everything (master of none). Regardless of RVP signing, we do not have the players to bench Rooney. The lad has been our spark, and it shows when he is not available on the pitch. We couldn’t unlock the chest against Everton with him on the field, what do you think would have happened if he was on the bench?
On another note, I am craving to see Berba back in the line up. I simply refuse to believe he is done, banged in loads of goals 2010/2011 season and Fergie lost all trust with him. I would just like to see how he interplays with Kagawa..Oh well the gaffa knows best.
@ 50 Shades of WillieRedNut
Very well said mate…very well said. He needs to concentrate more on forward play and scoring, and leave the rest to his new teammates. I agree 100%.
Slim – KE was on here last weekend. I haven’t seen him posting since.
TraffordLord – Cheers mate.
Spot on Samuel. I remember the days when we all complained he didn’t score enough goals. He’s rectified that! Maybe at the expense of other parts of his game. The first touch thing is a puzzler though. Lack of concentration is probably the reason….
Devils Own… gosh… fellow….. what a silly post ….childish even …as if that is going to upset me….
and all because you got suspected by others of being a imposter….. perhaps you should have grown a pair and just ignored the insults and just posted away….. instead of being a sissy and going off in a huff
Dreaded Red …rightly said …but i can fight my own battles as i too sometimes swear and get on others cases when the mood takes me….however I shall choose to laugh at DevilsOwn as his attempts lack wit and finesse . And as my tongue is not long enough to reach Lebanon and i have no sexual desires for Cedars or any other male (Cheryl Cole for me) and I am also older than my Lebanese friend whom being male has no clit ………he is wrong on all counts..
classy enough….?
Dreaded Red…where are you from please…..you in the UK? …have you down in my mind as Londoner….
from the Posh end though….
Traffordlord
And how do you suppose you’ll get to see berba link up with roo on the pitch. Not gonna happen if he’s numero uno on the team sheet.
Maybe being a “does it all in bits” player will always divide opinions on him but I feel he could and should be a much much better footballer.
Devil310…been looking back at Mondays game….Wazza seemed a bit overweight and slow by a yard…. his usual ‘touch’ was not evident as it wasn’t evident towards the end of last season…. but i think SAF believes in him and if anyone can get the best out of him it will be the boss….
Nani however…….
I guess this place has made it a habit of turning into a zoo once a day now.
Anyway, as for Rooney, he looked a bit heavier to me at the end of last season and he’s looked the same since. I remember Hodgson saying that he was battling through an injury so maybe he didn’t have the chance to train properly. And when he finally had his rest after the Euro, it wouldn’t surprise me if he enjoyed himself a bit too much. But it’s nothing unusual. His form was a lot worse after the World Cup. Maybe he will need another rest at some point before Christmas and a chance to work on his fitness.
i didn’t start it Costas….
but i take your point…… enough is enough….
Sell Nani -
Buy Downing !
Simples …
@ Slim
being a “does it all in bits” player will always divide opinions on him but I feel he could and should be a much much better footballer.
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Yes it will, and Yes he could have been…might be too late for him to change now. He was tinkering with long shots and banana shots when he was younger, even had a little dribble in him, but all that has washed away. He is what he is, a 200K+ player that bangs in goals (+ spot kick duty). I have no problem with that….he should just be diligent and disciplined enough to show up fit.
Berba for me is just a desire to see that magical touch one more time…remember his hat trick against loserpool- pure sex. I am fully aware his days as a red are winding down fast.
TraffordLord…i agree reluctantly that Berba’s days are numbered….but hasn’t he handled all this well….No complaints and/or going on strike…. a true ly decent player still offering us all his has….if he goes….good luck to whoever gets him as they will be getting a true professional with an unique style…
Re Zeki, Poggers, and so many others who don’t know what they have till it’s gone. (mmm thinkin of a song…. nahh)
Anyway, wonder if United should re outfit the Cliff. Seems we are spoiling these little lads.
They should polish the boots of the seniors etc…..
Ha…. like that will ever happen.
Think this will be good for Zeki. He is off on his own and will grow a ton in 2 years.
Hopefully for the better. Listen to the likes of Büttner and Herrera. The started at decent clubs, were sent off to lower leagues, or sold off in the the case of Büttner. Bet hey are going to know what they have and not waste the opportunity.
Might be good for all involved. Hope if Zeki turns out all right neither he or the club are too proud to have him back.
Best of luck to you Zeki Fryers. Just don’t say anything bad about United, or I might have to change my mind.
TL
Find it hard to accept “what he is”. Its a bloody shame and nothing against him but i pray we unearth our oun mancunian genius
Lost my voice seeing the berb bang 3 against pool- especially the overhead. The ROM orgy that day was epic. Good times.
Happy to see one of your fellow locals sign for for your club. It will benefit the club more more if the likes of Welbeck will be given the chance to shine in the yrs to come, Good luck Danny!
looking forward to dirty tackling, amazing skill, cheating and and free scoring match in Barca vs real madrid…el classico time
@ TonyBee
Consummate professional, really too cool for school. But maybe that was his downfall, after his mega season as joint top scorer, he and his agent didn’t make any noise. Very different from what Rooney and RVP did after their best seasons…and ironically see who is now taking up first team spots. We all hate it when players try to hold the club hostage, but see who gets rewarded? Maybe the players and their agents who play hardball with management aren’t all that crazy after all
@Devil310 –
According to Ferguson, Rooney is “stocky” and thats the reason he takes so long to get fit. So in other words, if Rooney put down the Diablo and worked harder off the pitch he’d return to form quicker and hit the ground running when we need him. Scholes and Giggs are always match fit unless they’re injured, and thats because they’re desperate to play. Rooney isn’t, so he relies on his talent to “wing it” and supporters find that frustrating because he’s at the best place in the world to stay in shape. He can even pull up a joga mat alongside a master ffs! Instead he’s at risk of his energetic best being behind him which is insane considering he’s only 26! I can imagine this criticism of our “talisman” might sound petty but its really not mate. We’ve lost our title and I’d just like to know where Rooney’s hunger is to win it back. Thats a fair question, especially when his first touch these days looks like he just ran a marathon. His loss of control has coincided with him gaining weight, and lets be honest, being stocky is one thing but being stocky while smoking and drinking isn’t a recipe for a “world class” striker. Scott pointed out in the Reactions he was completely knackered before the end of the first half and thats not good enough from our self-declared best player. It just isn’t.
It should go without saying I hope he’s been training like a madman this week so he can turn up at OT and show us the player he is – but if not I just hope the manager goes with strikers who have the hunger to stay healthy and in shape for the Club.
@ Slim
I was besides myself, the man just refused to let those losers win….pure class, Berba oozes class. I am with you with the young gems. Although a bit concerned at the rate at which we lose them these days ala Pogba, Fryers, Morrison- maybe agents to blame here again.
TraffordLord
Rewards in life are not given to those that perform the best rather those that would do the most damage and make the most noise whilst walking through the door. As long as you can live with mediocracy and everyone else bows down to the same pressures then you will survive in this pitiful world. Ability has never been the catalyst for success rather lack of disturbance.
TL
Oh no doubt them sleazy agents are in the thick if things. Just got to beat them at their own game. And to be fair nowt much could be done about ravel. The boy’s thick as a brick wall
Andreas fassi says ‘hector herrera is a pacucha player but his future is only with man utd’
What is the point of preseason if its not to get everyone up to speed. The gentleman in question our very own teletubbie has had less of a holiday than most due to the training at the euros and has had just as much pre season than all other players in the premier league including the everton boys. Using the excuse he should be fit after 2 or 3 games just doesnt wash because his level of fitness should be comparable with any opposition. The fact of the matter is his poor play isnt down to work rate its to do with terrible discipline and woefull passing. Fat Cantona playing beach football and chubby Maradona pass infinetly better than Rooney. The fact of the matter is if you take away Rooneys running or you face a team equally as hard working you find Rooney is not that good.
I fucking love Mexican players. I hope we get this guy.
Eric keane
A certain gentleman made a comment about Italians and their pasta and sauce. The same could be said of Paella and Tacos. I think we heard the same about Moura. There are people in this world you can take of their word then there are those that only speak the truth when they are silent.
Peppy was a smart man jumping ship, its not like he designed the blueprint. Madrid will be the team to beat in La Liga imo.
Anyway Fulham will fancy their chances using the same tactics Everton did. There will be even more pressure on us to attack and they’ll keep men behind the ball and counter our dodgy defence with confidence. We can’t afford to create loads but not score, and we def can’t allow them to nick one and stun most of OT into silence. Unless we want them to grow in confidence like Everton we need fully fit strikers to test the keeper and stretch the last line of defence as soon as we kick off.
Call me crazy, but if we’ve got a fully fit Welbeck and a fully fit RVP, both with brilliant pace and first touch and so forth, I’d rather see them start than watch Rooney sweating his arse off after 5 minutes. Still, hopefully our “stocky” talisman has done extra laps on the track and in the pool so he can prove his worth this season. If not we should go with whoever is fully fit and in form.
For what its worth…
DDG
Rafa Evans Vidic Evra
Nani Cleverly Anderson Young
Welbeck RVP
Subs – Scholes, Carrick, Rooney
Goat : the difference here is hector herrera doesnt have an agent… His clubs scout negotiates for him.. The same guy who got us chicha..
Goat – Rooney has been playing at the top level for 10years, has banged in goals here, there and everywhere against the very best. He’s bound to take over players on the highest premier league goalscorers of all time. Question his discipline and how much of a cunt he may be but your doubts over his talent doesn’t add up. His stats defeat your logic.
Anyone watching el divico? Please update
Forget the berb-its over
What is there to be concerned about young players leaving?. You can’t keep everyone, especially those that set their sights on bigger paycheques and demand unrealistic playing time. United produces talents and will hopefully continue do so. Quit watching too much youtube and beating yourselves up over pogba, morrison or any others.
samuel – united WE stand
I dont think it does. Its difficult to compare one generation of scorers or stat producers with another as things change. Im one who believes any striker at OT will score towards the 30 mark. Berbatov did but never came close at Tottenham or Leverkussen to that kind of success. Chico scoring 20 as a sub. A manchester United striker of any worth will score 30 a year. If you play for 10 plus years then you are going to break records. Of course you have to be good enough to be picked for United but many a striker are. Just because they are a United striker doesnt mean they cant have faults and Rooneys are glaringly obvious.
On another note but absolutely fucking hilarious. To me anyway. One who studies footballers rather than statistics as I watch football and dont play EA sports FIFA world premier league version 84 2012 super turbo meca fuckpig football star. How funny is it that Liverpool are going to get done for tapping up Clint Dempsey. Clint Dempsey, not David Silva, not Aguero, not Vidic, not Carrick, not Modric but Clint fucking Dempsey. Thats just daft
@Eric keane –
Good match so far, not much diving either. Its a typical Classico really – Barca look dangerous in possession and Mardid look more dangerous on the break.
Listening to talksport apparantly Spurs and Standard Liege are close,lad figures could be a way of not paying Utd a transfer fee
God almighty … The once mighty loser pool are struggling like fuck tonight… Painful to watch
TonyBee – you CAN fight your own battles, I’ve seen you in action! I’ve also seen you lend fair but uncompromising support to others in need. You can take care of yourself. Knowing this, I therefore had no intention of fighting your battle. Especially as you were good-natured and having a laugh, something clearly missed by the tunnel-visioned “Devil’s own”
What I didn’t like was “Devil’s own” subjecting us all to his 5 second spurt, without at least being intelligent, interesting, or exciting. Logging on to blurt out a few swear words, and then disappearing again, is pathetic. I’d rather he tried to contribute positively and then reacted to unfair criticism; not react crudely in his opener (which then becomes his closer too, as he doesn’t add any more comments)
I’m not from London. I’m born and bred in Africa, you may have heard of it?
It’s very nice here, if ever you’re about, give me a shout!
Seriously though, I live in a small village on the coast of the dark continent, way down south. It’s between 2 small nature conservancies, and even when I stand on my roof, I can’t see any dwellings. A far cry from London. The only thing posh about me, is a automatic support for our Gaffer (and therefore his son, and therefore his son’s club, Peterborough – Posh!)
ps – I’m okay with swearing, it is often irreplaceable. Actually, on occasion I swear by it.
Swearing is only gravy, you still need some fucking meat and potatoes.
Goats – exactly, you have to be good enough to last long enough as a regular at united. You may say united create more chances but Rooney more often than not, smashes them in than other players. I’m in no way saying he’s perfect, he has faults that if rectified, would improve him further but he’s a top talent, i have to give him that at least.
haha, first dive of the match, altho it looked a bit like the last penalty we won tbh…
This barcelona doesn’t convince me anymore
Really
Thank fuck we didn’t sign that Charlie Adams………….
Must say, considering we’ll have to cross the path of one of these teams in Europe you could call this a bit of reconnaissance…
but unless your a Sado-masochist theres no fucking excuse for watching LFC haha
@TonyBee
Definitely wasn’t talking about you mate. Today it hasn’t been so bad, but yesterday the thread resembled a nut house.
“Goats” ? Not sure if I herd that right, or are you kidding me?
Benitez has the thickest Spanish accent in history, all he needs is a pack of kitchen towels and a guitar.
“charlie adam’s corners are worth 10million” – fergie’s masterclass of tempting dalglish to waste his transfer kitty. Brilliant.
Tell Wayne Rooney to fuck off, and lets get in Lewondowski in from Burisia dortmund next season. I dont care about Rooney and i’ll be glad to see the back him. The kagawa/lewondowski patnership will be on a another level. Rooney can go fuck off to PSG and we can get 65 million in return.
On Zeki Fryers, it just might be possible that Spurs told him to sign for Liege and then they will buy him off the latter. Win win for everyone concerned (except us), without having to pay United the 6 million we’re demanding. I would doubt he’s stupid enough to make a move to Liege as a career move, when I bet there are plenty of clubs in England who’ll snap him up…
Looks like I’m in time for a Rooney love fest, MUFC best player wow some real stupid ass people here. Do not like him fine. He is a wold class player. same shit different day.
Ronaldo uses his head. Cracking goal!
Pedro equalizes from the kick-off!
Ronaldo scores from a corner
Then seconds later pedro levels it
Dr Dread as per well said, Tbee has not made the connection?
PHAT Rooney, pretty, hot and tempting!!!!!!!!! He is PHAT!!!!!!
Lewondowski? Oh do fuck off! He wouldn’t lace Kai Rooney’s boots, never mind his papa’s!
We don’t need any more forwards. Lewondowski or otherwise…we need a dog fighter in the middle.
on-Topic: love Danny to bits, so glad he’s signed!
off-Topic: Ronnie >>>>>>>>> barça
barca are a cheating team glad we didn t sign sanchez him and cunt busqutes…………
iniesta is some player,cleverly could be our iniesta if he stay injury free
Tom C – Xavi and Iniesta are fucking brilliant together it has to be said. Not a massive Barca lover but have nothing but respect for those two and the wee man Messi. Fantastic trio.
Buy a dog and send it to the manager then..
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4501864/Nani-drops-wage-demands-at-Manchester-Unied.html
Woof woof.
Woof, woof!
The last Barca goal was class, but that Alexis is a no good so and so and deserved 2 yellows for diving in the box. Still reckon Madrid will be the team to beat, but for now we’re still looking for our first goal at home v Fulham, and they’d be delighted with a 0-0 draw.
Smart money says Rooney will start, perhaps with RVP, either way I just hope he’s been super-guled to an exercise bike and fed Seaweed all week. Get in shape ffs and show us your class!
Rai I have only watched football for 8 years in that time Xavi and Iniesta with Messi the most magic I have seen on the same club side.
MUFC gets beat the personal feeling for some cloud their good football sense. Some true haters come on and all know some here, the momentum starts and , fat, smoking fool comes out. His game is not a flash game, step overs and shit. And then it turns into a Rooney hate fest. Wow all the time it happens, if you support MUFC then support Waaza. Hate his Liverpool guts, but a lack of respect for him over and over again. Becomes disrespect for SAF and MUFC.
How the 15 year-old George Best left Manchester United and Matt Busby after just one day at Old Trafford, got back on the boat to Belfast and turned up at 16 Burren Way on the Cregagh estate to tell his parents that Manchester and professional football were not for him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192647/George-Best-started-footballing-journey-Belfast-council-house–tribute-B-B.html#ixzz24PmxYt9Z
@TonyBee – totally agree with you on Wazza being out shape at the moment, but again, he’ll get there. Is just one game, mate. We usually play shit at the beginning of the season, not just him.
Nani is frustrating….but should we sell him? hell no! I’ve always felt he’s one of those players that if he plays badly the first half, you won’t get much from him the second half either…so why not bench him for the remaining 45? I don’t know what the deal is with him, though. Fucking misery it is…whether it is the stars aligning or a full moon or whatever….but when he’s on, the boy can be the best on the pitch.
@United Till I Die – hi mate. My interpretation of Ferguson stocky comment is that he built that way, and not necessarily because he is out of shape. Just as Bulldogs are totally different from dovermans,, the same thing happens with people. He does not have that slim physique of players like Giggs, Scholes and Kagawa have. Nor he has the physique of players like Ronnie, Drogba and Ibramovich that sport that tall but built body.
Truth is, he’s a stocky bastard that would never be physically gifted as some of the players above simply because of genetics. He probably has to work harder than these players to maintain a footballer’s body shape. Sadly, he probably won’t play top level football past 33. I just think his body won’t allow him, regardless if he takes on yoga with Giggsy. I can assure you that if he was just a regular lad, he would be a fat fucker by now.
Rai
oh not questioning the genius of those three together in tandem they’re a beaut to watch and frightening to line up against, really.
I remember when the three to watch were Roo, Ron and that fugly Argie trollfaced wanker of a fuckhead.
Tom C
No otherway to mention Cuntevez!!! Cheers mate
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/08/23/man-united-line-up-surprise-bid-for-tottenham-midfielder-rafael-van-der-vaart-as-sir-alex-ferguson-looks-to-add-creative-boost-to-old-trafford-squad/
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Devil310 – I really would not mind united ditching the wide player system, and going for perhaps a more diamond midfield like spain and barca have adapted, where its central players always on the move. Lets be honest its not been very effective. I would love to see perhaps a diamond midfield 4, but at the same time it keeps us playing 2 upfront. Say we went with scholes carrick cleverly and kagwa in a midfield 4 it goes like this in our starting lineup
DDG
rafeal ferdinand vidic evra
cleverly carrick scholes
kagwa
rooney RVP
mybloodismetal – LOL we already have kagwa to do that, we just need a central player that is an allrounder, as I do not think it is wise playing scholes in the tough away games at times
Goat – Rooney is not a bad passer. For fucks sake your agenda is getting old. He needs to improve but get a grip.
You make good points on many different Utd topics but your beat down of an important and at times great United player makes you seem petty.
The only thing I have to say about Rooney is that the difference in performace when he is on his game & when he is not, is huge. To be unable to even control a pass, letting the ball bounce off your shin time & time again is criminal.
When in top form, Rooney is right up there with the very best. What he needs to do is to be able to deliver something even when off form. The Rooney of 18 years old was able to do that, to hit a shot out of frustration that might just fly in. Something Balotelli is doing at the moment that gets him rated highly. The Rooney of now seems to have lost that air of unpredictability
Way off topic. Sad day for Cycling as Lance Armstrong says he will not contest the USADA case. Still denies drugs but tired of the witch hunt.
Hope USADA have it right, but no physical evidence …. how does that look?
I wonder if this will ever happen in football. Not condoning it because of the incredible downside for youngsters and sponsors. But find it very hard to believe that teams haven’t looked at it. Rapid return of players from injury would be aided by PE drugs and why not if you can get an extra 10 minutes of performance from your top players? Feel this is a story that will have some meat to it.
Tell me ruggers don’t use steroids and I’ll laugh in your face! Well, I will put down my brew. Swallow my last and have a good chuckle anyway..
off-topic here, but looks like nani wants to stay on at utd, claims about him agreeing to drop his wage demands to extend his contract. however if he continues to play so below par i won’t be surprised to see saf offload him in jan or the at the end of the season to bring in another winger, like gaitan, muniain or even bale (if tottenham are ready to negotiate)
hoping to a v.good match tomorrow to get back in the title race, chelski are already leading with 6pts claimed and another 3 points are waiting it seems for them tomorrow, and the bitters as well got a scare but won their opening game, so we cannot afford more slip-ups if we want to get no.20
united have a top proven winger in nani and you’re coming out with some random names that would probably cost a bomb. 1. gaitan is no where near nani in terms of quality 2. munain is a talent, still developing and will cost an outrageous amount 3. nani produces more than bale, he is more skillful than bale, produces more assists, scores more than the welshman, where’s the actual logic?.
Why would anyone compare the Rooney of 18years old with 26?. His form obviously need to improve but football players evolve their game. Perhaps Rooney has changed from that hustle street footballer into a more experienced, efficient, clinical striker.
Samuel
Cough cough ..bs.. cough cough
How about this for a mad idea.
We keep all the players we have at the minute. Sell nobody. Even keep Berba cause he’s quality and he seems to want to stay.
I read somewhere that its a long season and its good to have a big squad.
No over reaction after one game.
Let’s try it and see.Doh.
Slim – at least make yourself clear.
Nah we should not sell either Rooney OR Nani. We have to keep in mind the HEAVY contribution both of them have made to the success of the club over the last few years. I wouldn’t want to lose ANY of them over a few lax games. They are both fantastic players and WILL get better. And now that they have RVP and Kagawa they will get even better cuz great players bring out the best in their teammates. PATIENCE is what is needed. They’l play well tomorrow i guarantee it.
bale is so overrated, also i detest his fat arse, silly pointy dance, playing to the camera and all round general titishness, but on football terms, he isnt good enough either
From Manutd.com:
“I need to call Bruce and Pallister!,” joked the boss, who fielded Michael Carrick alongside Nemanja Vidic at Goodison Park.
“Phil Jones started training yesterday but tomorrow is too soon for him. Robin has had a few days training since Monday. It’s a home game and there’s every chance he could get a start.
“It’s pretty much the same as Monday night injury-wise. Alex will be involved tomorrow because he gives that back-up. Evra could actually play centre-back. He has done in the past. But I don’t think Alex will start tomorrow, I think he’ll be on the bench.”
So unless Evra miraculouslky returns, it’s Vidic and Evra tomorrow in defence. We’ll miss Carrick’s height, but he’s better off in midfield and playing as a CB might remind Evra of what it’s like being a defender.
Coastas,
Do you think Pat will be able to reign in his urge to get forward at every oppertunity. that would be my fear. Like you say, he seems to have forgotten he’s a defender.
Sorry, Costas.
@philco
It’s ok. He has no choice though. CBs usually join the attack only for corner kicks, but I doubt there’s a point in Evra doing that. He will have his orders to stay in defence I feel.
I hope so. Hopefully the boss just forgot to mention Jonny. That would ease my fears and settle the whole team.
Sadly Evans has yet to train, so I think he’s out. Hopefully he and Jones will be back for the Southampton trip.
The other piece of news from the presser is that we are done with our spending this summer.
“We definitely won’t be buying anyone else,” Sir Alex said. “There is no movement about anyone going the other way.”
Jesus christ of Nazareth. What did I JUST HEAR? Evra at CENTRE BACK? WTF is happening? Why do our players get injured SO MUCH. it’s frustrating. Maybe its time to start praying for all our players. Will be nice to see Buttner though tomorrow.
Samuel
B.S couldn’t be more clearer.
Find me a 30 goal striker with a first touch and control of a donkey. Go on
Actually its nor that hard, we got one.
I don’t get the fuss. The scouse lad needs to up his game massively and ill call him out whenever it should be pointed out. There’s no one doubting what he is and can be. Just has to be said and I’m saying it
dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT
Lay off the blasphemy. It has no place on this blog.
500th!!
@Samuel
Not comparing the Rooney of young & old, just pointing out that yes he has improved much but there are qualities that he lost as well
There is no movement about anyone going the other way.”
what we will do with bebe kiko berba?
i was dreaming of world class cm but still happy with our transfer window this summer i think the return of fletcher is the main reason why we don t go for a cm,hopfuly he will be fuly fit and play his part in bringing back our trophy
It wont happen that Evra plays centre back this weekend,but if it does I will be thinking our manager has turned into a shaky head.
As opposed to a parry head?
my team against fulham
de gea
rafeal carrick vidic evra
valencia cleverely anderson young
rooney
v.persie
Slim
“Find me a 30 goal striker with a first touch and control of a donkey. Go on
Actually its nor that hard, we got one.”
Do you actually believe that? Rooneys first touch is unreal, in fact its world class! If you mean Hernandez then I will agree with you.
DreadedRed.
Could be if you even knew what a parryheid was.
Dr Dread I saw that as well No more coming.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2012/08/24/3327499/manchester-united-definitely-wont-be-buying-anyone-else-says-sir-
Not sure I agree with the Rooney points. When Wazza is either; A. Playing well & in form or B. Angry, he chases the ball all around the park winning tackles etc and the crowd go wild. He also is key to our main attacks of switching play quickly to get our wingers with an exposed full back. When Scholes & Rooney are missing we fail to play the ball out early enough!
Rooney isn’t a natural goal scorer, he is not a Ruud, a Lineker, even a Yorke. But he is an extremely talented footballer who is clever enough to score lots of goals.
We needed a goal scorer when Ronaldo left and Wazza stepped up. Now it appears Slim is suggesting that he needs to do more with the ball. I think if you asked him to drop off last year and do that, we lacked goals with both Danny and Chica guilty of missing chances. Now RVP is here there is less pressure for Wazza to hang around the 6 yard box.
I think he has changed his game, he doesn’t take the ball on long dribbles as before, but he is still our most influential player on his day.
parryheid – quite right, I have no idea. Please enlighten me.
Pippo inzibbie – I’m sure we have enough players now. How many have Reading got?
Different aims, i know; but there is a limit to how many we can manage.
argh no new thread !
Sheikh Hamad Bin Hamdan Al Nahyan-Urbooti
Plenty of new threads on Blue Moon Rising, hang out there.
Im thinking , if I get time this weekend and learn how to use a video management program on the computer to show you numpties once and for all what I see when Rooney plays. I havent said his not good, Ive said that his flaws are so huge that other teams have decided to allow us to pressure them. Sounds odd doesnt it. They all drop back and allow Manchester United to pass around the edge of the box. Now alot of you will be saying thats madness, they arent doing that, we are putting the pressure on theres no choice for them. And some of that is true but the opposition seem to even want to defend deep against us. WHY? Because Rooney is next to no danger when we play a prolongued attack on the edge of the box. Rooney is only worth his weight in gold when we pile forward in numbers on a break or the flow of play is moving reasonably steadily towards their box. Bog Rooney down and mark the pass to him and like a jack in the box he springs away from the penalty area and decides to be provider EVEN if he plays as the loan striker. The problem is our passers and providers are ALL midgets and not particularly good headers of the ball. Imagine this – Rooney does as I said above and who rucshes into the box.
Young – not very tall and head play a big ?
Giggs – tallish but heading ability has been questioned for 20 odd years.
Nani – lol
Scholes – Great headerer of the ball but if hes the most proficient in the box (besides Rooney) then their tallest man will cover him. Scholes used to have success but that was when Sheringham, van Nistelrooy Yorke and Cole were in there and they all loved to header goals. Rooney is never in the box during corners. Anyway Scholes plays a deeper role now.
Cleverley – No
Kagawa – Dont know too soon to tell but hes hardly a 6 footer.
Evra on the overlap – No too short again
This is our problem we have become Arsenal. If our sweet fast passing game doesnt start we have no plan B especially when Rooney goes on a wander. VPersie will make it better as playing Berba would have.
Lets here you rebuff that!
For all you that think this is anti-Rooney witch hunt. Id love to be wrong, Id love the 3 points. I gain fuck all by saying Rooney is damaged goods. Ive admitted in the past I was wrong.
Sheikh Hamad Bin Hamdan Al Nahyan-Urbooti
Go hang out at Joes Garage
Slim is one of the haters, makes no scene.
Rooney is a team player. With Kagawa and RVP he will find his place. Yes when he is not game sharp his 1st touch suffers. Anyone who bashes him for his game probably has never played sports. He is a winner. His came can be broken down to positives and negatives sure that is fine. To just spew bullshit is what the wurms do.
People are waked. Rooney covers back all the time. Helps on defense. Hits 40 yard cross field passes ect .
We should just star a list of MUFC wurm Rooney haters.
People who read this blog, know how Wayne had his hart broken by Wazza and he has strong feelings about that, he seems as Papii does to separate this on there breakdown of him. Lads like you I respect.
Dr Dread as you and many here have filled my MUFC ignorance gaps over the last 2 years. I am OK with what SAF does. If he says he has what he needs for 20!!! I’m all for it!!!!!!!!!
Rooney basher’s and haters are dogs with a bone!!
@ergie is the boss – I don’t know mate. United and wingers have been synonymous for years now.
I think we can easily play our classic 4-4-2 with RvP and Rooney upfront and Valencia and Nani on the wings, the question however is what do you do with Kagawa? the guy has such good vision, awareness and his first touch is immaculate. Keeping him on the bench is not an option at the moment. Another question is, can Kagawa play that deep midfield role along with Carrick/T23? We all know his attacking attributes so far, and the lad looks like he doesn’t mind putting a defensive shift. But I have yet to see if he’s good enough to boss a midfield, getting the ball back, tackling and disrupting the opposition’s play. With all the current options in attack, I wouldn’t mind Fergie molding Kagawa into this role.
People who are smart and accomplished in their own field, think they know all. All theory no practice. On the field of play Rooney is invaluable. Anyone who has performed on any level and won something gets this. The side line guys who are all theory and conjecture will never know what a winner is or the feeling to raise a championship trophy.
@goatinaunitedshirt So the fact they are “Under six foot” means they will struggle to score headed goals?!? Christ Almighty.
Some of the points made in this form astound me. Last season we scored more headed goals than anyone in the Premier league … with 16. So please re-evaluate your point.
Berbatov was never brilliant in the air, and V.Persie scored a very low percentage of headed goals for both Arsenal and Holland.
Rooney damaged goods yet check out his goal ratio more so in the last couple of years!
Some people who post on here have no clue
I agree zibbie, some of the comments boggle the mind, rooney is a guarantee 20 plus a season goalscorer, and he will most likely score 30, he had a bad game, but most of that 11 had bad games. Rooney will get out of his funk, and he will score goals again.
Someone post a Blue Moon link for Sheikh Hamam.
Mike
Have you got the stat who scored those goals for us via the head.
WHo were they, if you subtract Rooneys headers How does that stat compare?
I didnt say under 6 footers cant score goals with their head but it becomes infinetily harder if the 6 foot defenders are marking the tallest players running into the box who are inches shorter. Like I said unless the ball is being swept over the heads at speed on a break awy even Messi will score with his head. My point was when the play gets congested and we always look for the wide man when passing to whip in the ball then whats the point.
Zibbie hi mate,you know my feelings on Rooney,the fact that people are pointing out that he smokes and drinks and has weight issues every year and in the end will take a toll,that’s not a hate fest mate,just a fact
His unprofessionalism year after year is also disrespecting Sir Alex and the club,Rooney is a important player but you shouldn’t stick up for him blindly everytime.I said at the time when he was getting shitfaced every night in the states was wrong and look at him first game.
Respect is a two way street and maybe if Rooney started acting like a top class footballer making a kings ransom every week,he’d get more respect back
When I’m clueless to ignorant or somewhere in between I acknowledge this. I as not a women will never know what giving birth is like. I can imagine it but really have no clue. The hate for all things Liverpool for a Manchester man is the same for me here in the USA. That said. At some level here on RoM I have been educated to know the difference between how one feels towards Rooney vs how one thinks of Rooney.
Inzibbie – and Sir Alex might do any conceivable thing. Even a few inconceivables!
Perhaps Pat starts at CH against Fulham. Could be Evans, Jones, Rio, Smalling, Carrick, Wootton, Berbatov, Büttner, Rafael, TonyV, or even RVP. I wouldn’t even bet against Usain Bolt, Fergie has big sleeves and original thought.If we bought Ledley King today, I would wonder what the Gaffer has in mind, and learn by watching.
Mike
Lay off the blasphemy.
Thanks.
Goat – reread some of your posts from last night and see if it sounds like you are not on a Rooney witch hunt. As I said you make many interesting points, but then go on rants where it sounds personal and vindictive vs. Rooney.
What do you do with kagawa? well, he was brought in to displace the pre historic 4-4-2
Wayne fair enough. I agree, a difference between blowing off steam and disrespect. Most men drinks and get drunk, I saw Rooney with a smoke before. Does he smoke on a daily basis? When he got the lads drunk last year and showed up hung over, fine his ass and ban him 3 games. I’m fine with that. SAF must have thought he needed a break after the Erous. As SAF said he was set up for failure. When Wazza misses games for any reason it takes him 2 to 4 games to get back rolling.
@Zibbie
Hi mate. Wayne makes a good point. Completely writing the guy off is ludicrous. But nothing wrong with pointing out that he doesn’t look in tip top shape at the moment. I said yesterday that odds are that he will get there in a few months, but it doesn’t look like he had the most productive summer. Just like 2010, the combo of an injury and a summer tournament have pushed him back in terms of ftiness levels.
Cantona got me here
It didn’t seem vindictive to me.
Personal is okay, perhaps even good. I’m interested in a poster’s view, much more than his regurgitated opinion. I see Rooney differently to goatinaunitedshirt, but I’m not offended by his comments. Hardly a rant, he’s given lots of reasons for his views, and even hopes he’s proved wrong about Rooney.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I think that Rooney is a top player who appears to put in less off the field than other players do. Maybe that’s how SAF gets the most out of him, by letting him let off steam. No red/yellow cards these days, is that fruit from his freedom?
@DreadedRed If you were offended then my apologies, but I should warn you of some extreme profanities that occur on this forum – I would hate for you to stumble across something that may upset you.
@goatinaunitedshirt – Unfortunately I haven’t, although from memory I think Tony V got one away at arsenal, that one was certainly unexpected..
I see your point, although Valencia is an outstanding winger and we missed this against Everton. However, with Nani and Young I sometimes feel they are putting the ball into an area rather than for a man. I would like to see those two getting their heads up and finding someone arriving late in the area etc.
Zibbie i don’t know how much he smokes but i know enough smokers and it doesn’t seem a habit were people miss days,also mate sure a lot of us like to party but none of us are making million pounds a month just in wages.I agree that’s up to SAF to sort out but from a fan’s perspective who’s got a shitty job and making fuck all Rooney has a privileged life,so he should be professional and show some respect back to people who pay his wages.
Cantona got me here
Rightly so Im not at all on a Rooney witch hunt. I sincerely hope the very best for him. His indescressions are what will make him a man, infedelity, pissing in the street, smoking and drinking are neither here nor there. The prostitution issue is regretable as its a break in the law however fucking posh hookers – escorts or whatever they are called – has always seemed to be accepted. The logic in that escapes me but Im for legalisation of prostitution anyways- but thats for another forum.
If Rooney makes it, by drinking and smoking then he will become a cult hero – Im in love with the memory of Keith Moon, Georgie Best, Oliver Reed and these people are my personal heros, hell even Bobby sparked up occasionally. Todays footballers arent supposed to but when Rooney runs like he does and works as hard as he does I wont complain. Alot say he was panting after the match and that was a sign of poor fitness. To me thats bolox because he must of run further than the majority combined, panting I would have Muambad (meant as a joke not a dig at Muamba – he was a fine footballer).
Rooneys work load is huge, I would just like to see him be more conservative and develop the un-english side of his game- which is closs control short passing and poise. If he stay in the box and keep over lapping and making jagged runs and being a constant outlet for passes I have no doubt he could hit 50. If ever there was a player in the premier league who could hes the man. BUT will he stop and think, is he capable of not being a Steven Gerrard who know the camera is always on him and he struts about like one of them Matadors from Disneys Ferdinand the Bull.
Rooney – Fuck being a Gerrard pal (Gerrard 0 Giggs 12 – as a friend on heres name keeps remindin us), stay in possition, be an outlet score 50. Its fucking simple, well its pretty easy at United. We have the passers no, now stay put.
Mike – your apology for possibly offending me, is gracious. It no doubt should extend to any and all readers that might be offended. I’m sure we all know that people can be offended by abuse of that which they hold dear.
It’s easily avoided by any caring contributor to our discussions here on RoM.
Goat – fair enough. Just seemed like your posts last night had a different ‘edge’. We all hope the best for United, and an in form Rooney is a big key .Bring on Fulham.
It seems like our new CM will only come in January transfer windows.
Alexander Büttner will wear No. 28 this season, according to manutd .com
Amen to that Dreadedred …
http://thepeoplesperson.com/2012/08/24/who-is-alexander-buttner-an-interview-with-a-vitesse-fan/
http://TheBusbyWay.com/2012/08/24/picture-buttner-handed-28-shirt/
Praise where it’s due, TonyBee!
TonyBee – did you see my replies to your questions? Posted at 22:10 on this thread.
DreadedRed.
Nope.
‘parryheid’ means ‘nope’?
parry Sir Alex is saying no more signings not going to get the midfielder you wanted mate
Wayne
We’ll see,but if that’s the case mighty rough season ahead ,mo.
DreadedRed.
nowhere close mate.
This midfield can’t win us the title then.
UNITED4LIFE.
Imo no but they can lose us it.
DreadedRed. Stewart Gardner tweeted that Angelo Henriquez will wear the #32.
So, Angelo Henriquez will be the last signing according to Sir Alex
That leaves Berbatov as the 5th? choice striker? and 4th choice Center back
no seriously.
Also, news from Pachuca that Herrera will remain their player but will eventually come to United (bit strange that?)
We have seen what a proper midfielder can do (against everton’s Feilani 2x). If we have him in the team i would be confident we will bring the title back to OT. i would say he could be out Toure, a goal scoring powerfull midfielder.
Sahin is still available lol.
Sure hope nobody reckons im a Rooney hater for saying he’s got no business turning up on day one overweight and unfit? Half you lot probably don’t understand the slang meaning anyway as its been gentrified beyond recognition. Just to be sure – criticising a player for smoking and drinking to excess isn’t considered “hate” to most normal supporters (ffs).
Perhaps some of you have forgotten that Fergie was the first to throw out the deep fried menus and put a stop to the daily piss ups at OT? Fergie has also spoken more recently about modern players smoking and from what I recall he basically called them something equivalent to “twats”. Needless to say he’s SPOT ON.
As for the blind acceptance of all things Wazza, the idea he works harder than most is a myth, probably perpetuated by him huffing and puffing every 5 minutes. The whole squad runs 10K meters per game on average and Carrick and Giggs cover more ground than Rooney. Those two are 31 and 38 and personify professionalism, so is it “hate” to question why a 26 year old lad is less fit than his much older team mates?
Look, after 8 years I too hope Rooney has a third season of scoring more than 20 EPL goals but the quality of the EPL isn’t decreasing fellas. On average the modern defender is a young strapping 6ft lad with zero body fat who eats and trains right and doesn’t smoke. Rooney reckons he’s got 10 years left to play at the top but if he doesn’t pack in the booze and fags he won’t be good enough for a top four Club within 5 years (imo).
Pointing all this out isn’t “hate” ffs its showing concern for a United player on a United blog. Big difference.
Question. What do you guys think will happen and what will it mean to you if we see a repeat of last year this season.
United Till I Die
Are you seriously telling me that Giggs and Carrick have a higher work rate than Rooney? I’d like some stats to back that up because i have a hard ass time believing that. he’s drops into the midfield because we get outplayed there so we need numbers to help things turn our way, and then he runs all the way up to the end of the pitch to try and score or create a goal scoring opportunity.
He looks huskier than before i’ll give you that, but to say he gives anything less than a 100% effort is total BULLSHIT. His goal scoring record speaks for itself, now i dont give a fuck if that includes penalties or tap ins, because those in themselves aren’t just handed to you those are goals earned. He starts moves and more often than not finishes them.
Just because he exploded onto the scene as an 18 year old people think oh he’s losing his initial flash or he’s getting fat. He hasn’t lost anything, he’s grown into whatever kind of body type he has, and defenders show him much more respect in terms of when they’re marking him and defending against him ie they don’t allow him the same kind of space because they know what he’s capable of.
You may be showing concern or voicing an opinion but my opinion is that I’m honestly all too tired of hearing everyone just pile on their team concerns on the shoulders of one man. People here saying he thinks he is the team, well where do you think that attitude came from? Fans all over have piled all their ambitions and hopes on him, and i commend him for taking on the responsibility like a man. Woulda been captain after Vida too if he hadn’t pulled that ambition-gate stunt, but hey, everyone makes mistakes. I might have forgiven him for it, but i haven’t forgotten it.
Regardless of all above, i’ve always seen a top player in Rooney, a top player who is always dependable and steps up for the big occasions when his team needs him. He pulled that BEAST of a winner against City, he started and finished the goal-scoring move against Barca. He’s wrecked Chelsea, Poo, Arsenal etc etc etc over and over again.
And people call for him to be sold. FFS, one poster here actually was suggesting that we sell rooney for 60-80 million so we can buy Neymar. God, I swear the dumbassery of people never fails to astound me.
United till i die
Your post makes no sense, Fergie picked him if he was unfit and over weight why was he picked?
We have strength, conditioning, fitness coaches galore so if thats the case why was he selected?
No one is saying the hate mob disputes it, when people say sell him he is done is a hate mob. KNow the difference for fucks sake
off topic abit,, Mankini now claim Liverfools can win the title?? “has he been dancing naked or what? thats must have been the sounds of his balls„
And PLEASe, people calling on us splurging to buy Fellaini? You know how expensive that deal is gonna be for us? Buying from a premier league rival? He might have played well against us, but both times it was against weak defenses and midfields. Not every fuckin player can make the jump from mid-table club to a top club.
What if we get beat by Norwich or someother team like that next? Should we start buying players like Pilkington too?
g12g0
Finally someone who speaks sense.
Cheers to you mate.
Sell Rooney buy Andy Carroll! Come on Ferg Do the right thing at least this once time!
Giggs12
I do. He’ll trap a ball no problem. We’ll see that after he’s got 2 games under his belt but you’ll hardly see him use it to beat a man- the last man.
I’ve argued hes more than a CF but that argument is shot down to.e and time again. Fair enough. Now compared to other CF who make their name in banging goals, he has so.e work ahead of him.
Don’t like calling names butook at the likes of RVP,Aguero,hell our former strikers. Rudd,Ole,Cole.
They all used it to their advantage aplenty.
All the I’m stressing is the boy could and should be so much more and if he doesn’t buck up someone else will take his place. With regards to selling him like some have touted on here,I wouldn’t go that far,unless he’s unhappy in which case they’d be no point keeping an unhappy player. Looks happy enough to me though
@ utd_fc –
Calm down, and cut out the insults. You sound naff. If you want stats go look them up, but im telling you Giggs and Carrick last season did more running on average than Rooney, and all our outfield players averaged 10K meters a game.
@Giggs12 –
My post makes sense, you just disagree with it. See the difference? Also mate I’d like to respond to your post but im not 100% sure what your point is? Re-read your own words and you’ll see its not the clearest opinion in the world mate, and im not being funny. Theres no point answering your question if im not 100% sure what your on about. Also, use a different term to “hate”, theres nothing worse than words being appropriated AND THEN used inappropriately. In any case I ain’t a “hater” fella, trust me.
@Adam – a lot of things happened last year, be specific. Or do you just mean City retaining the title?
Zibbie
Yeah that’s right. Label me as one of the haters.
I may be overly critical of the lad but it’d because I followed his career since his Everton days and I for one am slightly disappointed with the way he’s turning out.
Think back to the debut against Fernabache. Now that was the Wayne we know and love. Don’t see much of that these days.
Mike
Fair one. We’ll see how he performs now we have a striker in RVP and a number 10 in the shape of kagawa. Early days yet but I reckon Danny got a better understanding with Shinji.
SAF’s the manager. He says everything goes through Roo. No problem. Doesn’t mean I agree with him or think we’re doomed if he’s not playing. On the contrary I think we’d do just fine. Lost Becks ,we came up with the goods,lost Rudd and we got Ronaldo raping defenders. IF we lose roo, we’ll be ready.
More than anything its the psychological blow that I’d be more worried about if he chose to leave. But like I said above I don’t see that happenings.
What I would like to see is more options being shown by the gaffer. I mean we all realize we have 5 senior strikers who in their own right could have a team like ours built around them
utd_fc says
well we lost against wigan and no body wants us to sign one of their MF but htis guy has been consistetly delivering for his team and am sure will even get better if he come to United. imo he is better that what we have puls at the right age (25/26?). btw everton is not our rival and won’t be as hard as buying a player say from chelsea, city or arse…
Can you let the felliani thing go? FERGIE isn’t interested for fuck sake. Anyone would think he’s comparable to rivaldo. The belgian is a big lanky pole, that’s his main asset. His touch isn’t bad and overall a decent but everton use him well by lumping long balls to him.
I can see where United Till I Die is coming from…
I can agree that Wazza’s work rate has decreased compared to his younger years when he would go chase after the ball, would be making runs all game, and he would be actively attacking and defending throughout the 90mins. Yes, he has tone down this part of his game that most of us felt in love with, and that’s probably what United Till I Die is trying to say.
On the other hand, today’s Rooney still covers more ground that most strikers. Whether this is due to cigarets or alcohol….maybe. Those that saw George Best on a week to week basis might want jump in and confirm how these thing can fuck up a footballer’s energy.
I wouldn’t like Fellaini or his type of player at Old Trafford,but I would like someone who can stop him an his type getting at our back line as is frequently happening.And it’s not happening because of his sublime skills.
Felliani ain’t gonna happen. I think moyes would kill if he was sold,then again if the big buck comes Fuck all he can do.
Defenders getting back sharpish should be the priority. Seems SAF has his mind set on the midfield issue. I just hope we don’t go trying to turn players into something they’re not. Saw a post about slotting kagawa I. MF with clevs or Carrick. Fucking suicide that. Goi g forward,with the players we’ve got. It’s gotta be a 3 man midfield. With Carrick being the first name in that area
samuel – united WE stand – I also think the boss needs to get rid of the outdated wingplay system, which has not served us well since 2011. Like I say, if the boss really wants to try and do what barca are doing, then no more wing play. Start using a diamond midfield 4 and front 2 of
carrick
scholes cleverly
kagwa
rooney RVP
I think that is the way to go, 3 very good footballers, with kagwa playing off rooney and RVP
slim – Like I have said, to get the best out of both kagwa and RVP, we need to ditch wingplay system, and get fullbacks to add to the wingplay. Barca and spain do not play with wingers, its all central players, it may make us narrow, but I do not see how wingers can fit into today’s system. Nani is not pulling down any trees, young is in and out, valencia has been the only one worthy of playing. If we want to truly solve the midfield problem, and continue to play rooney and RVP upfront, I say go with the diamond formation
@GIggs – I may as well take a guess at what you’re saying as I won’t be back on here till after the match mate. Alex has said time and time again Rooney is a player he’d select even when he’s not 100%… but time doesn’t stand still so I doubt an unfit Rooney will get the nod ahead of Welbeck forever pal, let alone a fully fit RVP. All im saying is time (and fags) will catch up to him if he doesn’t take his health and fitness far more seriously (like Valencia or Carrick for example) and if you think otherwise thats your opinion.
Laters mate.
The first Fulham thread is up.
@Devil310 – mate I just wanna see him take his football as seriously as Ronnie does. Even with all the goals he scored last season no United supporter can hand on heart say Rooney was in the shape of his life because he wasn’t. His touch was off and he’d lost a yard of pace, and these things don’t tend to improve with age. Like many supporters I guess im just anxious Wazza is happily pissing his talent up the wall, so I sincerely hope im wrong. And your right, none of this is “hate”.
@Slim
Tell me about it. When you say “the Wayne we know and love” I know exactly what you mean mate. AND SPOT ON at 17:18 that is the point I’ve been trying to make to no avail. That post sums things up perfectly. Lets be real, unless you keep a small dog in a handbag since when is constructive criticism “hate” ffs this is a FOOTBALL BLOG ??? You gotta laugh!
i think we are short in midfield,if carrick is injured then we will be in trouble
maybe sir alex have plans,anderson will not progress i am not convinced with his attitude,hope fletcher can return to his best
Felliani will not happen but i think he is exellent and can devlope into one of the best he is still young (24years)
i think dembele or herrera will join us in january window
United Till I Die
I mean having a similar outcome in all competitions we’ve entered.
United till I die
I think my post makes perfect sense so need to add anymore. If I feel I want to use a word I will pal.
@RoM
Its all well and good having a precocious talent who can pull off moments of magic even when lacking fitness but Rooney isn’t a youngster any more, and his constant “evolution” every season isn’t necessarily a good sign. Tbh I find it hard to say he’s “improving” each year just because he’s scoring more, and thats NOT ignoring his goals as I do appreciate his contribution to the Squad. Im just not burying my head.
Last season and 2009/10 he scored more goals than ever, but its no coincident Valencia joined at that time and Nani started leading the EPL assists table. No player in the league assists more goals than Nani full stop, and between him and Tony no other players have assisted more goals since 2009.
That basically means those two could join any Club in the land and bring their combined 20 plus assists with them. So when you look at the reality of it I guess you can either say Rooney is improving every season as a striker OR our delivery from the wings has improved and Rooney is merely benefiting as our main striker.
Tbh Its probably a mixture of the two, but if I had to choose there is no way I can bury my head and ignore the fact Tony V and Nani assist more goals in the league than anybody else. Imo ANY half decent striker could convert the constant stream of crosses from our wingers. But thats just my opinion, and it certainly doesn’t make me a “hater” unless you’re Tim Westwood.
Laters
Hippopotamus.
@Adam – I’ll come back to that later
@Giggs – come off it that post made no bloody sense grammatically. But no worries enjoy your evening.
United till I die
I think my post makes perfect sense so need to add anymore. If I feel I want to use a word I will pal. My point was clear I stated posts who question him are not the hate mob, its the ones who want him to leave re read it mate.
Fergie can say all he wants if he picks an unfit that’s his fault. Rooney has never had the physiological make up of Giggs, Valencia and likes.
Blogs is all about opinions my debate was your inability to separate people who question and the people who do hate.
United Till I Die – you bash rooney’s performance, nani was not exactly putting everton to the sword was he, and he was equally has bad as rooney. I have seen loads of united players have complete stinkers on the first game of the season, come october rooney will once again be one of the key players of the squad
@Giggs – feel free mate but im still none the wiser as to what your saying tbh? But I do agree that blogs are all about opinions, so if people say they want Rooney gone they are entitled to say so. I don’t consider that hate, even tho I’d personally prefer him to stay and prove he can play for 10 more years like he reckons. Other than that our wires have been crossed somewhere mate – look at your last paragraph – when was I unable to separate people who question from people who hate? I dunno what you’re on about, but no worries as none of this really matters does it? Enjoy the game tomorrow, as thats something we agree on without any confusion.
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FITB – just quickly mate, I agree Nani had a bad match but im not criticising Rooney based on one match ffs! Im saying Wayne’s FITNESS isn’t up to scratch and hasn’t been for some time. You mention Nani, but for starters Nani is the player responsible for providing the majority of Rooney’s goals since 2009 when he first scored more than 20 EPL, so don’t forget that. Secondly, even when Nani doesn’t perform to his best abilities nobody can say he’s lost a yard of pace, or that his touch is getting worst each season. Nani is improving each season as a player but I can’t say the same for Wazza, he’s getting slower and he’s lost his previously world class first touch.
Opinions mate, and we disagree on this on I guess? No worries / Enjoy the match.
United till I die
Don’t be a nob mate its a fucking blog i don’t feel the need to proof read or justify myself to you.
United Till I Die – nani is just not that good, he will do it when he feels like it, and when the going gets tough he folds like a pack of cards, he has overall one decent half season, he starts off well, is a meh in the middle of the season, and has a strong end to the season, which adds up to half a season. I think united should be moving on from natural wide players, and build the side more central and narrow. To get the best out of a far better players in kagwa, who will show nani how its done week in week out. Everyone is bashing rooney, yet I can name players like scholes and nani who both had stinkers, not just rooney. Valencia is the only wide player who justify’s his claim in the starting lineup
Great stuff guys, I had to go to work ,
Wayne as per, you help take my rose color glasses off. Thanks.
Costas as well mate.
Now hello I have more to read and see yo dudes for kick off.
I want to point out. 3-5 years ago they were saying Rooney relax, you waste to much energy to be an effective striker? He is in a constant metamorphosis state in his style of play & how SAF plays him. He can frustrate the fuck out of me as well guys. Until he rolled his ankle in th CL simi he was getting in some circles talked with Messi and CR, if not hurt maybe 40 goals and a CL title?? IF”S!!!! Since CR has risen his game Messi wow might be the best ever when he is done. He can still win a world cup. And a lost Rooney looking to fit in with the new players. Triggered our disrepair from last year, Rooney 2 hat tricks an 8-2 demolition then he play MF for 6-7 games, left back once. and Messi brakes the European record for goals and CR maybe had a better year. No PL title after dumping out of the CL. Yes this is all true. Still 35 goals, tied for the PL lost on goal difference. He played MF for the team. If not maybe 43 goals, still we all might want Angelina Jollie, or
Hot babe 2. If you go home with the top Victoria secret model not bad. I know he disrespected SAF a few times, not bad for a scouser cunt. He trys, works hard and does what the gaffer asks.
I get it he should drop a stone and smoking.
@Giggs12 – Bit hung over and I’ve just seen your post.
Too right you don’t have to justify yourself to me! But if your gonna come out of no where and address me (16:22) then expect me to reply. Thats normally what happens on a blog init? Unless the topic takes a back seat to ego’s and then everything becomes personal… not my cup of tea tbh.
Back on topic, if you criticise what im saying about United, but you can’t have a debate without throwing your toys out, my advice is just to stay schtum. But thats not an order! So do feel free to do whatever you want. Im really not sure how telling you to enjoy your evening made me a “knob” but whatever mate. Might never happen aye?
ENJOY THE MATCH.
@FITB – I get your point but I disagree mate. David 200k a week Silva assisted the most EPL goals last season (15) and he scored 6. Valencia assisted 12 EPL and scored 4, and fan-favorite Nani assisted 11 EPL and scored 8. They were the top 3 on assists, so im not sure how Nani doesn’t deserve his place at United? Over the last 3 seasons nobody in the league has provided more EPL assists than Nani, and nobody at United has provided more goals for Rooney during that time. Might not look like it from where you’re sitting but thats the situation mate.
I understand he’s not consistent over an entire season just yet, but for the last 3 years Nani has still assisted and scored an average of 18 goals every season and he’s getting better every year, so I don’t see a problem myself? Swings and roundabouts mate – enjoy the match.