So 90 minutes into his Manchester United career, young Spanish goalkeeping wonderkid David De Gea has ended his spell as MUFC’s number one.
At least that’s what some fans would have you believe.
Never before has the word ‘howler’ been used out of context in such a short space of time. De Gea’s mistake vs. West Brom was indeed not a great moment in our recent history. But was it a Massimo Tiabi? That I do believe was………… a howler.
Manchester United has always been a melting pot when it comes to the press and the reporting of our club. You can almost write the scripts before history actually is made. But with the advent of social media it has become apparent how fans have taken on this mantle that we once reserved for the red top tabloids and co…And hit the ‘reaction’ but the second an incident happens. No thought. No pro active brain power. Just reactionary bull. It’s the verbal and non-physical equivalent of the rioting we saw last week….mindless and pointless, driven by few shepherds and retweeted by a million sheep. Miscommunication as opposed to communication.
What makes fans like this?
Once it was totally a faux pas to criticize your own. Now it’s the fashion to destroy anyone or thing that you simply don’t agree with. Berbatov has suffered a lot from this. I suspect Ashley Young will as well. Many panned his signing “cos he’s not MUFC class”. However he has a great début and those very same fans are lauding him like the flipping Lion King. I find it all a bit odd. The term supporter has a dictionary definition of “to give strength to; maintain”. This is opposed to “completely destroy and make an unnecessary example of” Now I’m not saying fans should not have a voice. But the engaging of the mass that exists between your ears would be most appreciated.
There is little doubting that David De Gea is a top class young keeper. But he is very much green and inexperienced. Barely out of his teenage years, the boy is best described as having outstanding potential, as opposed to being Edwin Van Der Sar elect. He is nowhere near the finished article, and won’t be for some time.
Sir Alex has spent multi millions on the boy for the future… and not for the West Bromwich Albion away fixture yesterday (a game we actually won by the way!). It’s a given that football fans are fickle, and in many cases entirely thick. But the wide ranging knee jerk attacks on De Gea were both pathetic, and in a Man United fan way….embarrassing.
De Gea was expensive yes, but so was a 19 year old Phil Jones if were making comparisons. However, young Jones (a magnificent acquisition in my opinion) will get none of the flack that the Spaniard will get when mistakes are made by young minds and bodies. We’re all intelligent enough (surely? Maybe not) to realise that there’s no joy being a goalkeeper. If you make a save or saves (as De Gea did yesterday) people will say “Well that’s what he’s paid to do. So what?” However one slip of concentration and the guns are loaded and pointed at the target standing between the sticks by all and sundry. It’s frightening to see that United fans mask attacking one of our own as ‘opinion’ and ‘freedom of speech’
We procrastinated so much this previous 12 months about who would exceed Our Edwin, and we all had our own favourites. Mine was Buffon. This would follow the template of when we signed the Dutchman last time round. A player with tremendous experience in a position that is ever so vital. I also really liked Akinfeev, but was worried about his size. But I get why Sir Alex went for De Gea. Think about Casillas or even Cech. Both proved that even if you’re young you can survive as a top class goalkeeper, and push on and win trophies. If De Gea had gone to Arsenal a couple of months ago to take over from Almunia and his band of average keeper mates, we would have looked on with jealous eyes, wondering why we were stuck with some Danish bloke we picked up for a few million quid. As it goes we have both of them. We are stronger because of this.
As the manager said yesterday, De Gea is “a work in progress” and I couldn’t agree more. There will be more mistakes from the lad, and there’s a chance that he could end up to be a dud, allowing those high and mighty Reds to say “I told you so”. But maybe, just maybe, if we exercise a touch of patience and allow the player to grow into the role in the biggest goalkeeping spot in world football, we may just have a world class keeper in our midst.
Peter Schmeichel had several nightmares in his first six months at United and did more than survive. He didn’t do too badly did he?
Support the boy. He needs us as much as we need him.
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Couldn’t agree more.he WILL be top class but patience is needed.
Amen! Boo to those who are after his head!
well said, completley agreed ,shame that our suporters do that, DdG will be fine in no time
Agreed 100%. Get off his back, he’ll come good.
We cant destroy his confidence by not playing him because of Two bad games.I mean it’s worth the exit at the group stages and our title challenge to ensure that isn’t it.Anyway it must be someone else to blame surely.
TOP TOP post Scott. Was looking forward to a positive sensible bit here about him. The only caveat is i do think he has problems with low hard shots (three diff games) but they’ll sort that out in time. For now, as you said, lets just buy the lad a drink and sing for him very loudly. You’re one of us now De Gea. we got your back.
Well said Scott! I was waiting for an article on this. I do think he will be a top keeper soon.
Nice piece of writing. No doubt about that he should have gotten the better of shane longs goal – but he will mature from it. Hopefully he can stay strong and focused, ‘cus the press in general is waiting to tear him apart, unfortunately. But thats the life of a man u goalie.
Stupid fans really. A howler ? What the fuck seriously. Others like Scouse fans or the media I dont give 2 flying fucks. But when a self-proclaimed United fan says so, I mean seriously, go find another jersey to wear. Go for City for ‘proven’ merc- I mean players.
I thought we knew what we signed for ? He’s 20 for God’s sake and let me remind you that it wasn’t him who put such price tag on his ass. And blame the likes of City for ridiculously inflating the market – thus victimizing De Gea as a ‘big priced’ flop. (can u imagine that ? he’s barely made it into 2 games. He’s had nickname already)
De Gea will be the no.1 keeper in the world at Old Trafford.
On city, these boys will push us for the title. But we have Sir Alex. 20
Doesn’t matter what he does, anyone coming in after VDS isn’t going to measure up. This lad will be great for us, will take some time and as Fergie said we will see it through. A few weeks more in the club, few more games, his confidence will grow. Some good gym time too to beef him up a bit and he will be fine. As was proven after big Pete, replacing a great keeper is the hardest job of all, this lad will be great for us, he just needs a bit of time to find his feet. I’m confident our team are good enough to help him through.
Awesome article Rob.
I personally think if people formed their own opinions rather than the usual ish they get from match commentry we probably wouldn’t be reading this.
My dad who didnt watch the match was only listening to this, and before seeing the match itself assumed De Gea had a Taibi-Bartez-Carrol,etc moment due to the lazy commentry.
But I guess as long as Sir Alex knows its a only a teething process which all continental keepers go through, getting worked up over thick fans isnt something worth getting worked up for.
Will definately be addying ure blog to my bloglist.
TOP TOP POST Scott
really top post scott
This is a reasoned article. I’ve gotten too tired of reading DdG obituaries.
He’s only played two games for us! I don’t understand how everyone has magically forgotten that even Edwin made mistakes like that last season. Give the boy a chance to make the number 1 jersey his own.
very well said scott. as you mentioned already , people seem to forget shmeichel’s first few games for united. he was already a mature proven goalkeeper when we signed him also ! de gea is only 20 so there’s no need to criticize on his mistakes. not yet anyway.
Aha I’ve discovered who is to blame,It’s the fans it would appear reading all the social/care in the community posters kicking stones with their suede shoes and biting on their pipes complaining about blame culture.What’s the problem boy’s have difficulty accepting we’ve got a dud.
What a fantastic article
Just said all i was thinking, although in a much more eloquent and forceful way than I ever could. Brilliant job by the author…
He’s just a teenager for God’s sake, give him some time.
hear hear…. a facking good read…. especially the last line…. i shook my head in disgust as our very own red-clad supporters attacked berba because of his lack of goals…. and what happened? the guy’s morale dipped further…. and to a keeper, morale is the key innit…. so let’s get behind the lad on monday and show him that we are not some blue shit that lauds and recognizes money only…. the lad is class and class is appreciated come old trafford… we are with you david… fuck the tabloids…
Great article………… I hope to God that our players do not read this blog, some of the shit spouted here about some is bloody ridiculous, most notable of late is of course on De Gea
The lad has my full support
Scott stop looking at what the Twitter whores say. It is just garbage. Sure the kid got a rough start but as Sir Alex says – welcome to England. The issue now is just how David reacts – he needs to have unbelievable self confidence.
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The lad has my full backing. I still feel that he will be the best in the world within two years. Anyone who slates him is a fucking cunt and is not a United fan.
Very well said.. Get behind the lad, he’s young, he doesn’t speak much english, living in a foreign country. Give him the chance and he’ll prove his worth.
could not have put that any better myself.we live in a hard&fast world where i wonder at times if its trendy just to be negative.the knockers can’t be true supporters surely.the young fella is 5yrs away from hitting his prime.i trust the work that fergie and the staff have done to access his attributes for bringing him toOT.as a life long red devils fan in oz,i can see another grt dynasty ahead and de gea a big part of it.support the lad.that should be a given from the best and biggest supporters in the world.new league,20yrs old,foreign enviroment,new teammates etc etc.always going take time,more so as mentioned,a keeper.
go u good thing!!!
All those people writing De Gea off are useless twats and i wish they would not support Man Utd. They have no clue about the clubs history and don’t watch games and are the true plastics.
When our great Dane – Peters Schmeichel joined the club he made a few blunders in his first few games. He also made a few blunders throughout his career as has a certain World Cup and Euro winning goalkeeper along with our just retired goalie VDS. Keepers make mistakes – every player makes mistakes – its a part and parcel of the game. We as supporters have to support them and encourage them to hold their head up high and not let this deter them.
Barthez, Van der Saar and even Mark Bosnich were all “Experienced” Keepers when they joined Utd and all 3 made mistakes during their tenure with us as well as their tenure with other clubs.
Peters Schmeichel made mistakes when he joined Utd as he did not have experience in England and in the hostile atmosphere of stadia in England.
David de Gea is young and only played 2 serious games for Utd (if u can call the community shield competitive) and made “mistakes” or “howlers” as some people are claiming. Don’t get on his back and support the lad. He is young and a proven future talent. He won the Europa cup with Athletico along with the Euro under21′s so he has trophies under his name as well. He will improve as he plays at Utd and learn as he gets more experience.
The problem with de Gea is perhaps his concentration but that will improve as he plays more games.
I believe these idiots calling time on him are the same idiots that claimed Nani was useless and they did the same with a lot of our younger players. I even remember ppl saying some of Fergies fledglings including Paul Scholes and a certain David Beckham would not make the grade at Old Trafford but guess what – they did dint they?
Useless fucks – go support Man City
Here at Man Utd the true fans support the players especially the young ones and give them a chance to become world beaters. I am 100% sure de Gea will turn out to be a fantastic purchase.
Also – the keeper a lot of these retards were talking about Manuel Neur had a “Howler” of a debut for Bayern Munich and he is much older – whats to say he would not have pulled off those same mistakes?
Seriously – get with it..
I hate cunt fans that roll the axe on a player before he is given time to prove himself!
I’ve been reading this blog for well over a year now and have never commented. I just wanted to say that your piece was well-constructed, well thought out and makes perfect sense. Thank you for being the voice of reason.
The lad is 20 years old and plays in the most unforgiving position on the pitch.
A 20 year old right back for example would be afforded a much easier transition into the team
He is clearly a very good goalkeeper, and given time will become an absolutely top class goalkeeper under the guidance and development of United’s coaching regime. We just have to be prepared to give him that little extra bit of patience.
Saying all that, we are away to Stoke at the end of September……..now that will be very interesting to watch! (I wonder if Lindegaard will be drafted in for that game?).
De Gea will be man of the match vs Spurs
“However one slip of concentration and the guns are loaded and pointed at the target standing between the sticks by all and sundry.”
Let’s not forget, it was possibly Fabio’s moment when he switched off in the centre circle that started Albions move that led to the goal, yet no criticism was sent his way.
Football is a team game and it takes 11 men on the pitch, working together with one aim – score one more than your opponents. Something I believe we managed to do on Sunday.
De Gea will need time, and I’m sure our excellent coaching staff (Eric Steele) will work him hard over the coming days, and come Arsenil and Spurs he’ll regain some of his absent confidence and put in a good show for us
Great post
We’ve all seen new signings adjusting to life at Old Trafford, ie centre backs scoring own goals, even world class goal keepers making silly little mistakes that lead to conceding goals and even losing matches because of those mistakes.
I can already see he has quality and just needs to settle in, and then he will the worlds number one keeper. Till then, lets just sit back and enjoy the ride, with our front line we can out score any team!
Those that are condemning him already need to be a bit more patient, otherwise his confidence could be destroyed before he even gets going, so lets get behind him and give him our support.
@parryheid
Jog the fuck on.
I like him and his bumfluffed little beard which I also sported when I was twenty. You learn it looks a tad silly when you’re older- which is exactly the point; he’ll learn from this little blip, which is all it is. It took bottle to sign in the first place.
He is an excellent keeper- in not too long we’ll be lauding him for saving our arses- mark my words (because my words are useful from set pieces) .
Who the FUCK are these so called fans giving him stick? Fickle bandwagons with their fucking megastore bags no doubt.
DDG, easy as 1,2,3. Go on son, do us proud.
Nice read however couple of things. I’m behind the lad but his 2 mistakes were howlers should have saved 2nd shot at Wembley. As per Schmeichel he did keep a ridiculous amount of clean sheets that season and went first 4 games without conceding a goal.
Ballague said it best, “Lets talk at the end of the season.”
Our fans just need to unequivocally get behind him on match day. However we live in a reaction age where not much thought is put into what we say and do. (See Riots from last week). WE fans need to get behind him and leave the tabloids to do what they always do…Stir Shit Up. We don’t need to be doing the tabloids job for them!!
Passe – Great picture, reflects the situation exactly……..
kanchelskis – I concur !
At Wembley:
That fucking Carrick
He can’t fucking move Carrick
Fucking Carrick fucking shit
Oh here we go Berbatov comes in to save the day – fuck me
Berba is on congratulations city
Might as well fuck the fightback Berbatov is on Fergie sort it out
These comments by so called United fans were a fucking disgrace – I had to listen to that shit and it hurt
Now Carrick isn’t setting the world alight – fair enough but he’s a player that does a job and when he does it he’s brilliant – like some players namely Berba he’s a player that needs an arm around his shoulder – it is true that he’s had his fair share of shit games but then so has every other player in world football – unfortunately though Carrick gets the stick because we have suffered in the one area that we need to excel at – very unfortunate since in all honesty I thought he did pretty well without the cover of Fletch last season.
Then Berba – the issue is if we had not paid that much money for him it would never have been an issue – but we did – and it’s an issue – Berba is the ultimate player where his control of the game is second to none – he also is built on confidence – when broken he just falls apart.
To say he doesn’t move quick enough or does not have his heart set on the game is absolute bollocks – thats the way he just is – he’s not an aggressive player and funnily enough neither is Carrick – they are players from an era which is beginning to fade away – they are cool calm collective players that like to do things their own way – but the fact is that maybe the game is changing too quickly for them to survive – maybe they need to fall into other teams where the pace is not so quick and explosive.
Yet they are United players – they wear the shirt and for me neither especially Berba have bitched about some of the treatment they have got – namely from the Boss at being left out of games.
Yet people still wax lyrical over a Ronaldo who broke United hearts by pursuing a dream.
I am a Manchester United supporter – I love my team – I know the challenges that lie ahead and I know that to win the 20th will be another formidable challenge – and hunting Barca down for that CL win is probably the mother of all SAF challenges.
But here’s what sets some of us apart from others. It will take time – time is the most important factor in this – time will heal that thought process that we are second to Barca – time will give defiance to those that are coming through to adapt to the United way.
In time Welbeck Jones Young Cleverley Smalling the Twins Pogba – all will develop to beat Barca – all will carry on the United tradition of relentless devotion to the shirt.
Which leads me to De Gea.
In time he will become formidable – you just don’t lose faith in a young person because he has made mistakes – the craziest thing is that these mistakes right now at the beginning are the ones that are going to make him – by paying too much attention to those that argue otherwise is folly disrespectful to SAF and a betrayal of United’s DNA.
It does seem that fans are heavily engaged and connected outside the United family – it seems a lot of fans pay too much attention to people who are willing to ridicule United every single day of their lives – it does seem that some United fans buy into this ABU United media of believing that their opinions matter somehow
Well the fact is then that these fans have no fucking idea of what Manchester United is – in its entirety
United is a force like no other – Manchester United is built on a foundation of youth – it’s very core – it’s very existence as a football team has been laid down by two men that changed the face of this club forever – and if it wasn’t for Munich then United would have been a complete different beat altogether.
But Munich happened and United suffered. It took the will of a Scotsman again someone who wasn’t even involved in the United way to make Manchester United what it is today.
Yes it is frustrating that United fell to Barca – yes it still hurts – but Manchester United are still standing. We’ll just have to go again.
And no matter what – this team could be the last great United team of a man who has never given up on us. Likewise we’ve never given up on him – so it leads me to conclude.
If you fuck with my team then I’ll stand right in front of it and fight for everything that it is. If you think that you cannot do that then don’t be here. If you think that you can stand with me and carry on this belief that United will never die then stand shoulder to shoulder.
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once de gea improves his footing n bulks up, he will be a LEGEND!!!=D
Also on a side not to all the youngsters with bum fluff beards. My advice is keep it as long as you can. Don’t shave it off otherwise you’ll have Homer Simpson beard like I do which reappears less than an hour after shaving. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of money spent on blades, and I’ve not even hit 30 yet!!!!
well said
I agree with you, Scott. And I’d like to add, no matter how many “howlers” will de Gea make in his first season, he can be great goalie for next maybe even 20 (!) years. So a little patience could be beneficial for United
MG – Top post, el magnifico to be precise
@Raizzen
Couldnt agree more!!
You will expect the bitters and dippers to be a bunch of dicks. But when you see a fellow red acting like that, it can be bloody annoying!
I really hope all those deluded fools read this.the boy needs to beef up but then we did that with Hernandez and CR.
Its evident that
This guy will be a top world class goalkeeper. Was at wembley and when people blamed him for the first goal were totally wrong. Second goal yeah he was at fault. All we need and he needs is time. To acclimatise to the english game and once he masters this he will be good. Can’t stand so called fans getting on his back. Rediculous! He’s only played two games.
I certainly don’t get what the fuss is all about. So the lad has made a mistake, United still won the match. The attacking play was refreshing, most of the outfielders did well. The goals were good but all that is lost!
He has great potential. United buy superstars in the making and thats what he is. If I am not mistaken Ando cost about the same and 4 years on, he still has to win quite a few fans over. A player can,t be perfect at the age of 20. Obviously he has problems and I am sure Steele and co are working on rectifying these but in the meantime, after one competitive game its just foolish to write him off.
We are all United fans here ( presumably) and for me, we all should back him
to the tilt instead of dissing him at the the first moment. It was his league debut for fuck’s sake. Give the lad some time. In the meantime trust Fergie and are scouting network. The Lord didn’t come in their dreams. They have studied him from close quarters and then bought him.
Baldrick says:
“Let’s not forget, it was possibly Fabio’s moment when he switched off in the centre circle that started Albions move that led to the goal, yet no criticism was sent his way.”
Whatever circumstances led to Shane Long being being able to take a shot at our goal from inside the penalty area are irrelevant, because his tame shot should have been saved, end of story.
De Gea is class, he doesn’t need to “bulk up” or heed any of the other patronising suggestions that are coming his way. He played around a hundred games for Atletico Madrid, winning the Europa League with them and the European Under-21 Championships this summer with Spain. The kid is class and that’s why we paid the best part of 20 million notes for him. Any United fan who is on his back already is a fucking goon and should go and flush their own head down the toilet.
@Baldrick, that’s exactly what I thought. Had either Carrick or Evra been playing, that situation might never have arisen. But well, what’s happened has happened, I’m sure Fabio took the lesson in. See how he was almost afraid of giving away possession later on when he chose to hoof the ball away when it got to his feet.
Thankfully, we got the 3 points, and both DG and Fabio got some additional experience under their belt.
As for Young opting to cross it in, it might well be SAF’s instructions, probably well-related to the knowledge that Foster isn’t the best at dealing with crosses whipped in with pace.
A very good post Rob, will take a look at your blog, The Faithful.
PS: Am I the only one to think it’s an article by Rob? Seeing how it’s filed under Contributing Writer…
Great post MG
Agree completely Scott.
The lads made good saves in both games that featured his “howlers”.
Vidic was as at fault for his first last week, he was standing well off his man allowing him toshoot in the first place. On Sunday Smalling got turned a little too easily. But this happens. It’searly doors for a lot of players in this team, give ‘em chance.
Also De Gea was totally bullied after his slip up at the weekend. Ref should have protected him more, like Fergie said. He took an arm in the face and a submarine, both could have seen a nasty outcome.
Get behind him, he’s only a kid ffs.
MG, hello mate, long time no speak!
Well said!
MG – I was at that game at Wembley and two guys sitting behind me were slating Carrick throughout the entire game, even when he wasn’t on the pitch. Shameful behaviour. I have always backed the players who wear our shirt. Fucking disgusting behaviour by some of the so called United fans. I think them cunts sitting behind me were on day release anyway.
On the topic of Berba – This is a guy who didn’t even give City a second thought, such was his desire to join United. He never slags off the club, only speaking about us with high praise, yet he is given the most dreadful treatment by a lot of the fans. Disgraceful to say the least.
Rooney publicly humiliated the club, but people still sing his name loudly and hold him in a higher regard.
No, YorYor. You’re not the only one to have picked up on this.
Sorry, Rob not Scott.
Ooops.
In fairness, I think young De Gea deserves some critisism. He’s handled a few situations badly where’s he’s reacted late, likely due to lack of concentration and the pressure that comes with being a keeper for us. Hopefully he’ll shrug it off and get on with it as he gathers experienece. He has great ability and potential, unquestionably.
of course we’ll support him, no doubt whatever happens to him. After all he’s still young and will prove that he’s something else, may be even more than VDS. And for the record I like his attitude so far, still playing with confidence and courage. Keep it up, son!
It is a faux pas to criticise your own at the match, not on a football discussion forum where we are supposed to be able to share open and honest opinions. Of course, the criticism of De Gea is totally unjustified but some of the reasons are just sulking and the reference to Berbatov a chip on Scott’s shoulder.
It’s pretty clear that some people on this blog defend some players to the hilt, even to the verge of lieing just to avoid that faux pas that is to criticise one’s own.
Sorry but it seems you are confusing fans with the media. Most fans ive spoken with, say he made two mistakes but you have to expect that kinda thing and i’m sure he’ll improve and grow into the role, he’s only young. It’s the press that have gone over board.
brett1985 says:
…and the reference to Berbatov a chip on Scott’s shoulder.
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Even though Scott didn’t write this piece?
Slightly digressing from the topic.
I really don’t get people who constantly criticize our own players. I really don’t.. Just the fact that they are in the first team, just the fact that they are United players mean they are special talents. Yes, even the bellions and the djemba djembas and the klebersons had some sort of potential. they flopped, fair enough and were then shipped out. but only after it was certain they were not going to make it.
Now, carrick on the other hand has been a regular in the team for the past few years. If he was shite, he would have been offloaded a long while back. yet people keep criticizing the fuck out of him. they criticize the signings (young is not united quality), they criticize the players, they criticize the manger ( some dumb fucks do that at every instant possible) yet they forget that year after year its united who are celebrating their asses off on the final day, dancing with the trophy.
I will support any player at United. Just the fact that he is a united player means Sir Alex rates him and that for me is enough. and i think its rather idiotic to question him or his judgement, yes, he might make mistakes but even then we are no body to tell him anything. in fact, we are no body to judge whether a United player is shite or not. we have our opinions, true but it certainly is very limitted in comparision to Sir Alex Ferguson
Actually it probably was a howler too. It was an easy save and his attempt was a 1/10.
However he needn’t be flogged for it.
OFF topic, Anyone know why we were not invited to that NextGen series, FROM WIKI Teams were picked for the first season of the tournament through invitation. The organisers picked the 16 clubs who they considered to have the best academies in Europe, Surely our academies is the best in england
Someone posted before that he sould not be dropped after 2 bad games and i couldnt agree more but dont forget these were 2 bad games we WON!! he will come good !
Plz dont mention Djemba djemba – he was so good he was named twice!!
And we should give a flying fuck why?
2 games, 2 fucking games the kid has played and the vultures are overhead already. Give the kid a chance he’ll be right just you wait and see. Peter the great had a similar start to his United career and look what we did with him. Granted he’s made 2 massive mistakes and he’ll be gutted about it. You saw his reaction on Sunday when West brom scored he was fucking gutted but he bounced back and looked solid after that. He will get better once he starts to master the lingo and realises he IS the man to fill some mighty big boots left by Edwin. Get off his back and get behind and support him for fuck sake, he’s a red just like us.
Kanchelskis
Fair enough I didn’t notice that. Still it’s a dreadful article.
why on earth should we buy a 20yrs old gk for 20 ml…..this sound more to me like a scam…..i watched Vorm of swansea last night in his first match in BPL after signing from lower dutch league and cost lower than 1ml…..the same age with David but the guy is a class. with 18ml we should get the best gk in the world, to me this guy is not better than Amos why on earth do he cost that much? at 20 he should have cost 1 or 2 ml then we can forgive his mistakes. i swear! another costly mistake we will probe the ppl that made this signing……i am a seasonal ticket holder……i don’t waste my money to watch a scrab.
@ Kings & MG- Abuse at Carrick and some of our players by our own fans isn’t anything new. Goes on all the time at OT. Like you mentioned its the usual suspects. I’m amazed you weren’t aware of it.
De gea needs to stay alert and increase his concentration level, only way to cut out this mistakes from long range shots, the other parts of his game is great and he is a talented keeper, however to lessen the pressure, he’ll need to stay outta the headlines and keep a couple more clean sheets.
People need to believe and support him, the manager and staffs will be working on his game day in day out, and with time he’ll fulfill his potential but for now, he needs to cut out the mistakes.
DDG, easy as 123 Lol.
That’s class Clayton!
Was gonna give my pov, but MG and others have pretty much covered it.
I would say there is a difference between fickle fans and those who give constructive criticism.
This lad will is a special talent. A few years time, we’ll all be looking back on these discussions and wondering, what all the fuss was about.
NotoriousRedDevil – Yeah I am aware of it mate. Just highlighting the small time attitude of some of the so called United fans.
This article would be better if it acknowledged that well thought out criticism and constructive criticism with a view to improving the team is valuable rather than grouping all criticism in the bracket of brain dead, knee jerk reactions.
I really can’t imagine that after only a couple of games- the crowd will get on De Gea’s back. They are stupid but not that stupid. And really the media hype or a lot of negative talk on a blog wont impact a lad who has limited English and who probably doesn’t read blogs.
“It’s frightening to see that United fans mask attacking one of our own as ‘opinion’ and ‘freedom of speech’”
The above is applicable to people like you parryheid. And before you get all holier-than-thou on me, I can stand criticism of our players, what I can’t stand is people calling them shit after two games like people like you are doing.
And, by God, fucking yes, I will take a year without CL knockout stages and a PL trophy. Yes, I don’t care if the youngsters that have been put in this year don’t win anything for us in the here and now. I know they will do it for years on end in the next two decades. I can take one trophyless year for two trophyfull decades. If you or anyone else don’t have the patience, then Chelsea/City might be a nice club to start with. I don’t care if you’ve been supporting the club for half a decade, if you don’t realize that patience is the key with Manchester United, then you are not a fan.
@MG, As ‘Arry would say, ‘Triffic post. Passsion unlimited.
@brett1985, This is a brilliant article that defends one of our players. When you have scores of articles flogging the player, then why the fuck should you not have a supportive voice and let it be heard. No, it is not only the media doing it. Many fans like the aforementioned parryheid have called him shit and said he should not have been signed. That is disgusting IMO.
This is the only place where we – supporters – get criticized for defending its players. I thought that was the main duty of being a fan. Defending the club and its players against all crticism – both from inside and outside. Public criticism and flogging is for the media and fans of other clubs. For me, I will support De Gea against all costs as long as he wears our shirt.
PLEASE GIVE THIS BOY A CHANCE, he is only 20 years old, we have to give him a season or three to get him to become the keeper that he can be. 20 years old and playing for not only one of the biggest teams in England but the world, we need to give him a chance. Hopefully Hernandez will be able to help him settle in. On another note that Aguero looks a player.
Balaji
I agree we should have a supportive voice but someone of the reasons given were poor. It was a howler, criticism in other cases is proper (Berbatov), it is thankfully not a faux pas to criticise one of your own players. What is being suggested is mindless support devoid of any thought. Ironic given some of the statements by OP.
So I think we can all acknowledge that it is too soon to judge De Gea but many of the reasons stated were poor ones.
I’m sure he will be a great keeper for us by the way. The errors whilst bad are just inconsequential. A midfielder lets the ball slip under his foot and nothing is made of it
David de Gea is a mere 20yrs old. Nothing but a teething baby as far as goalkeepers go.
I have been watching football for frigging ages, and I can say with absolute certainty I have never ever seen a keeper, so young with so much natural ability.
I can only wonder about the ages of these ‘supporters’ who are already questioning De Gea’s ability, because I am old enough to remember how Schmeichels Old Trafford career began. It wasn’t too pretty, and he was in his late 20′s when he arrived.
Maybe some of us would have preferred it if Sir Alex Ferguson had gone for experience when he was looking to replace Edwin van der Sar. Maybe he could have signed Stekelenburg, a proven goalkeeper. The manager didn’t, instead he signed a player who has the potential to become one of the worlds very best.
David De Gea will make mistakes, that is part and parcel of the learning process. Thing is, the keeper doesn’t learn if he doesn’t play.
Look, I don’t believe we should never be critical of our own players. In the past I have taken issue with the constant non-performances of certain players … but in all fairness, players have got to be given time .. and you don’t log onto a players twitter account to abuse them.
The cornerstone of Manchester United’s success in the Sir Alex Ferguson era is the willingness to trust, groom and develop the abilities of young players. If you want to support Manchester United, you should be buying into the philisophy of grooming and creating quality … if not, fuck off and support ManShitty or the Virus.
It makes me laugh when you read the criticism he is getting..yeah fair enough hes droped 2 howlers…BIG FUCKING DEAL..if i remember rightly there were times when the big dane and VDS droped howlers but they were never mentioned..this kid is the real deal and deserves his chance
we need to get behind him and support him..if he makes another mistake then stand up..applaud him give him the confidence to b the player he is as the press have been bustin to kill de gea every since he signed.
i listen to some united fans say this and that, we need him and him, he isnt good enough, hes to young..well let me tell you somthin you name me 1 team who has as many promising young players breaking into the first team as well as already being in the side……NOT even mighty fuckin barca have as many as us…lets see
DE GEA(trust me)
FABIO
RAFAEL
JONES
SMALLING
EVANS
POGBA
CLEVERLY
WELLBECK
TUNICLIFFE
PETRUCCI
MORRISON
MACHEDA
not to mention
NANI
ANDERSON
LITTLE PEA
VALENCIA
YOUNG
we have a really awsome future ahead of us and wats great about it is they are being brought through the club and no wat it means to play for the name MANCHESTER UNITED
and not money like all those cunts at shitty, chelski and ma fucking drid..
and people say we need sneidjer..rite ok he would be a good signing however if he really wants his dream move then why does he want a bucatti a week to play for us….all the names i mentioned above would play for a fucking micra with a sub way in the front seat for afters
fergie was hurt more than any of us after that defeat and this is his way of getting closer and do you no what………………………
I FUCKING LOVE IT.
sayyidhashim says: De Gea will be man of the match vs Spurs
Sayyid – I sincerely hope not, if you know what I mean…
Troy
Top post, well said
http://www.ifrasia.com/equities-manchester-united-considering-singapore-ipo/1518939.article
What the fuck does this mean?
Willie
Best wait for StatesideAussie & Balaji for an explanation…. You ain’t getting one from this dumb fuck that’s for sure
Not going to dwell on it i mentioned it yesterday,just don’t think the lad is ready for the physical aspect and teams are going to target him.it’s not tightening the noose just a honest assessment of what i’ve seen so far,it’s ok saying the kid’s only 20 and will come good but he’s been selected for the 1st team every mistake costs,i hope i’m wrong been a little shocked to be honest was expecting closer to the finished article,he looks way off.Hopefully it was just nerves but he does need to put a couple of good shifts in soon,the lad gives me the jitters.
This is the first time that i get so angry with others. Fuck! he is 20 years old!! Cant you have more patient?
He is world class, he just needs more time and space to develop. Why after one match, fans jump onto him? Why cant we support the players? Many asking Nani, Berbatov, Anderson and i remember Park get stick in the past. Vidic and Evra gets it when they first came.
Just support him and make him feel at home! I believe he will be so much better. If we make him feel at home, i believe he will end his career here at United. 10 odds years for playing at United. Give him time, space and SUPPORT!!!
kel
Who exactly are you angry with? Almost every poster here has given De Gea nothing but blind support…..
Cedars – You and me both mate lol.
I think equities are similar to shares, though the operative word is think.
Good morning all discerning Reds. its great to read some sense from real ‘supporters’
@kel i agree mate he does need time to develop just don’t think he should me doing it in the 1st team maybe at the cost of points or cup ties.Should be picked on merit not on what a player might become,want to see him turn it around,for me its not the mistakes that led to goals although thats worrying him doing it back to back,he needs work and strength building,on what i’ve seen not good to be number 1 at the moment.
Great article.
What I noticed on sunday was the commentators on sky, they never mentioned ben foster, he flapped at everything and didn’t get the abuse de gea received. England gk?!?! I don’t think so.
Well Said Scott, I’m absolutely disgusted by the english press. He made 2-3 good saves but just cause of one mistake and he was condemned. De Gea will make those fuckers eat their words, 100% SURE! That’s the man united way!
willierednut
Hello mate, an IPO usually refers to Initial Public Offering, whereby shares in a private company are offered to the public.
@ken
He also came up at the end for that freekick, obviously desperate to score against us. What a cock.
I was begging for De Gea to have a go at the empty goal once he’d collected that cross. Would’ve been a long shot, but would’ve made Foster look a complete mug if he’d pulled it off. Plus he’s in my fantasy team.
reading the post from the lads today vs when the game was on, you’ll be shock that it’s the same ROM. where are all those wankers on sunday? or perhaps some have simply change their tune now in joining the crowds in showing support to de gea? great article from rob, but if a self-proclaim supporter need to be taught how to support their team, how embarrassing is that? good or no good, like them or not, once the United jersey is on, there’s only one thing we fans do….fucking get behind the lads.
It’s in my blood – Cheers mate. Just seen it breaking on Sky news there.
willierednut – I saw this glazer news on the sky news breaking news bar, looks like they do tend to sell allot of the club’s shares
I don’t know about you but the guy has really fast reflexes and is great on one one ones as well as saving with his feet… but to me the great thing about him has to be his distirbution I think it is on par if not better than VDS especially the long balls that he kicks it is really amazing
watch the game again and see how Evans and the other defenders were constantly screaming at him to pass to the closest defender but he ignored them everytime and delivered a great ball directly to the attacker and kept on doing it until the end of the game where he picked out Berbatov with ease at the 93rd minute and almost created a goal for him if the ref didn’t blow too early.
I’m really optimistic I’msure having De Gea is going to increase our possession of the ball as he doesn’t lose it much and it will also help us score more goals really something that other keepers in the premiership no matter how good dont do very well.
Goal keepers are not only required to save the ball from getting into the goal they are active players in the build up now and they do a lot more in the attacking game and this is something that David De Gea has in abundance.
I’m sure his distribution played a big role in us signing him I have no doubt with that being said he is great in all the other areas too so its not all too bad hahahaha.
Willie
Are you in Singapore right now, or are you from Singapore?
this ia all so funny, we won’t be yelling “give him time an support” if he’s leaking in goals. fact is he was bought at his young age for his “awesomeness” for lack of a better word .all i’ll say is he needs to start to show why SAF believes in him
Hell i’m applying for jobs left right and center, trying to convince people i have what it takes. If you don’t have the experience you better be an exceptional talent
Fans are blinkered and biased. Rob B contributed brilliantly, yet Scott takes most of the credit!
Read this excellent article on David de Gea, and be sure to bookmark the blog.
http://thefaithfulmufc.com/
I see the future – I see De Gea running down to the box for a United corner. I see this happening -
http://youtu.be/bRbKPiC8Wbc
Except it isn’t offside
What does this mean for United , is it just some shares to make them a quick buck?
@Willie
AUGUST 16, 2011 AT 12:12
willierednut says:
http://www.ifrasia.com/equities-manchester-united-considering-singapore-ipo/1518939.article
What the fuck does this mean?
It means that the Glazers are planning to list the shares on the Singapore stock exchange, and use the immense popularity of Manchester United in South East Asia to raise some serious cash by selling a stake in the club. I hope its true…..This will mean that they can retain a controlling stake in the club and hence most of the benefits of the ownerhip can still apply, while at the same time reduce the crippling debt burden
Top post Scott! Nothing to add except that some of the shooting down of our youngster is a deliberate attempt by our detractors to heap the presure on our youngters and stiffle their development. Just read a post on some site trying to scandalise Tom Cleverely. Come on how can a 20 year old unmarried youngster trying to get laid make a headline BOLLOCKS! Social media is out of control!!
stop comparing de gea to peter schmeichel!!!
I read long back that intended to sell 15-25% of the shares thereby making up to 400-500m pounds, thus clearing or reducing our debts by a huge amount and decreasing the yearly interest we pay to the banks by a considerable amount…
i dunno in detail…but think it might be a good idea for a United IPO considering the amount of debt we still carrying. Depending on how much the club is value at the moment, assuming it’s much much more then when glazers bought it in the first place….this IPO offering will allows public to buy a share of United & with says a 20-30% stake on offer, the glazers could raise enough to clear off our debts. Singapore, together with HK & shanghai are the financial hub of Asia, so not very surprising if glazers choose to launch the IPO in Singapore. anyway, a very layman take on the issue. Probably someone with better knowledge can enlighten us.
Good Afternoon All
Thanks to everyone for the replies
Carrying on then
willie are you in Singapore? When did that happen?
Are you a closet Singapore resident
Not that I have anything against Singapore – love the place
Top top post.
Was it Rob now or our Scott?
This boy will make all these kunts eat their words.
The only thing that will be decreased with selling IPO is their OWN debt.
Has he been critisized too harshly? Yes.
Will he come good eventually? Yes.
Did Fergie rush him into the first team? Also yes.
So if I had to blame someone in this whole ordeal, it would be Sir Alex. Just like he took his time bringing Ronaldo into the first team, imo he should have done the same with DDG. As things stand now, lets get behind the lad as he gets his education on the pitch. But most importantly, lets hope he settles in Manchester pretty soon. Because that will be the platform for him if he’s going to focus 100% on his job.
Red Devil – Thanks mate. Is this separate from the bonds issue? Or in co – ordination with the bonds? I haven’t got a scooby doo here, so I’m guided by others lol.
On another topic, I saw a photo of Fletch from last night’s game. The guy looks like a beast. Give David whatever Fletcher has been eating.
Fletcher has been on Greek Kebabs English Kebabs Punjabi Kebabs
And of course it’s worked
Costas – Fletcher still struggled a times against that reserve side. lacks so much match fitness.
@Willie
Its different from the bonds mate…its like going back to the days of the PLC when United were listed on the local stock exchange and the public were allowed to hold United shares.
Although I doubt this is going to be a general public offering if it is indeed true….Its more likely to be a QIP or a Qualified Institutional Placement whereby some big people/corporations are issued the shares in a big chunk, with the Glazers likely to retain the controlling stake.
Bonds were debt on the company. This is basically Glazers selling a stake in Man United to a single/group of investors and using that cash to probably repay part of the club’s debts. This is most likely in response to the FIFA fair play rules coming in…..Lets wait and see
about Foster coming out for the free kick to try and score, that was downright foolish I think there were still three minutes on the board. I was praying for someone with the accuracy of Rooney to itercept the set peice and embarass him with a long ball. That would have made my day!
Red Devil
Can you translate that into football language? You know, using formations, tactics etc.
@Zelh
That goes without saying. At least it looks like he’s put on some weight again. It will take a while before he’s back to his box to box best.
I forgot lots and lots of Lebanese Bread
Some tzatziki some Labneh some Dahi
Some good salad
Maybe some hummous as well for old times sakes – that should do it
I think what Red Devil (hi by the way) is saying is that this action will help pay back some of the debt. Not a bad thing of course. The question I have in cases like this, is why would someone spend millions on stock if they are not going to get controlling interest.
@costa
but DDG is not an outfield player. SAF can’t possibly use him as a sub & bring him on for 30 min for the next 10 games to ease him into the game, can he? of cos ideally, we could have got him earlier so he can play some games for us last season while VDS is still in goal to gain some EPL experience. But having said that, guess fergie probably wouldn’t want to pay that amount of $$ for DDG to warm the bench & i bet DDG wouldn’t be keen to join as well if he know he hasn’t got a considerable chance of being no.1. juz my 2 cents. cheers.
@MG
Tzatziki is a killer mate. It’s as delicious as Hayley, but if Fletcher ate a lot of that, then his body fat must have gone up by 20%.
Costas – I think the money will be used to solve their own debt problems.
Can’t see them spend a penny on our club’s debts..
Fergie should be commended for sticking by the lad. He’s not the blame for anything. You pay 18 million for De gea and then put him on the bench? Was never gonna happen. It’s surprising to me, that some can’t see what Fergie is doing here. He probably knows the lad would be in for a rough ride his first few games. Ask yourself this? Is it better to blood DDG now, while it’s still early doors, or leave him on the bench and say, blood him further down the line? If he’s gonna make mistakes, better now, than in crucial games at Christmas time, or in the home straight.
And no, I’m not in Singapore!
@DEVILisRED
In my opinion, the equivalent of the Ronaldo treatment in this case would have been for DDG to spend some time acclimatizing in Manchester, bulking up a bit and playing a few Reserves games just to get a hang of things. It wouldn’t have been a permanent demotion or anything. Within a month or so, Fergie would have brought him into the first team. We spent 20 mil on him, yes. But he’s here for the long haul and that’s why we paid that amount.
Costas
That’s the second killer line in two days
Tzatziki as delicious as Hayley – truly a foodie you are Costas!
I’ll stick to the woman if you know what I mean
willie – Cedars has you mixed with another double agent
Did someone say Labneh? mmmmmmm drooling here…
Willie – So you are not in Singapore but its where you are from right? It all makes sense now
Red Devil – Thanks pal. Sounds like a good thing then?
excellent article!
Cedars
You are very far away mate – so far that willie is closer to me than to you than to Singapore.
I hope the last few weeks on here, ends all this clique nonsense. We do disagree on certain things.
Barton, DDG and wee Wes!
@Zelh
Didn’t they already pay off the PIKs though? That was probably the biggest burden on them. Maybe like Red Devil says, they want to comform to the FIFA fair play rules.
@willie
Or it could get worse over the next month for De Gea. Personally I don’t see a negative in giving him time to settle. I think that over the course of 5 years, DDG will justify his price tag. He doesn’t have to do it within a month of a life changing move like this.
problem is with that theory willie unless DDG turns it around the latter part of the season won’t matter.I consider goalie most important position in the team because mistakes can’t be made,its a bad position to let a player make mistakes before he gets better.I’m not knocking the kid and am behind any decision that’s made just not convinced its the right decision that’s all.
MG – Must be Bora Bora then
Costas – the PiKs are paid off, but Glazers have way more debt than just that. And where came that money from to pay off the PiKs is the question. Well. we’ll see. I’d love to eat my words and they pay off a part from our debts.
Willie – But I need my clique, in fact I love my self so much I will start my own one man clique, The Cedars loves Cedars clique
Scott my fellow manc…I could kiss you! What an article, this is what made ROM great, remined me of united rant in it’s prime. Now keep at it with these cracking articles rather than continuing the millionth this is how it feels to be city poster or silly statistics to back up a point. Better to write a few great pieces a week than 5 average articles a day…well done lad
@ Red Devil
but the article from willie says it’s an IPO (if it do happens), so it must be a public offering.
@costa
point taken on DDG. cheers.
people pay thousands (if it’s public, more like million people paying thousands to own small shares) to have a stake in man united by buying the shares on offer. & when the stock prices rises in future, they can sell it off & make a profit from it.
We don’t always clique well, that’s for sure.
@MG
Glad you liked it, lol. Tzatziki has been the main cause why I always come back from my vacations heavier.
You better stick to Hayley. She probably has the opposite effect. 
@DEVILisRED
Oh I see. Cheers. That explains it. And I guess United’s stock is worthy to invest on since it’ll probably rise.
Wayne – I know you’re not knocking him, but Fergie will not ditch him after 1 league game. I stand by my comment, that’s it’s better to blood him now. I won’t change my mind on this, and I’m sure it’s vice versa. So, we’ll agree to disagree? I’m not one of these ones, that discounts constructive criticism on any player.
Cedars
Yeah I’m in Bora Bora willie in Tahiti
Paradise
And I’ve got Hayley in swimwear every single day.
(One is always allowed to dream…)
costa, ohh ya boy. try a leeds IPO now….& u had better stay away from it even u got too much in ur wallet. lol
Costas
Yeah Costas – Hayley has the opposite effect – for sure
no worries willie i hope the laad proves everyone wrong next game
We all know that De Gea will come good. Anyone slating him is just crazy. OK he plays out of position a little and his low shot stopping is questionable but Eric Steel will be fully aware of this and will work with him. The young lad is clearly nervous having to fill boot of VDS and the great dane.
What is disturbing me is our noisy neighbours. I hate to admit it but they look awesome yesterday, especally Aguero. United performance was well under par and we have now hit some serious injury problems defensively. This wont help De Gea build is confidence. Teams now know his weak point. (hit them hard and low.) De Gea has to iron out this issue and fast. United now have very difficult games coming up. Hopefully Jones and Evans can step up to the mark and cover the vidic and Rio loss…
Lazynerd @ 12:31: “Goal keepers are not only required to save the ball from getting into the goal they are active players in the build up now and they do a lot more in the attacking game and this is something that David De Gea has in abundance.”
Excellent comment.
In the match v. WBA, he made one glaring error – compounded by Chris Smalling’s slow reaction to Shane Long’s move to set up the shot. Otherwise, he was a bit shaky – uncertain or hesitant might be better words here – on some of the crosses BUT he made two outstanding saves. So, De Gea was minus one and plus two – and UTD won by one goal.
What was very interesting to me was watching his composure as opposed to Ben Foster’s continued lack thereof. There was one notable instance when Danny Welbeck nearly nicked the ball from a dawdling Foster which summed up all that lack of composure that we saw so frequently when Foster was supposed to supplant Edwin. In contrast, as “lazynerd” wrote, David De Gea was comfortable with the ball at his feet and his long kicking was superb, too.
Overall – can one say that after two matches ? – De Gea has had two “mini-howlers” but UTD have won both games. It seems that the critics are clutching at straws.
@MarkoWire you’re joking right mate? city was playing a team odds on to go right back down,by your comments and the fact i’ve never seen your user name before on rom,think you are a noisy neighbor mate pretending to be a utd fan.
MarkoWire @ 13:36: “What is disturbing me is our noisy neighbours. I hate to admit it but they look awesome yesterday, especally Aguero.”
They did NOT look “awesome” – they were simply a class better than Swansea who were making an away-debut in the EPL.
I quit watching at half-time – ManShitty had had the lion’s share of possession and threatened the Swansea goal but they went into the locker room tied at zero-zero. I’ve seen the highlights of the goals and, without a doubt, Aguero gave the team energy and focus – his goals weren’t shabby either. It seems that he is going to be much more valuable to them than Carlitos because Aguero seems to understand that there’s no “i” in team. Also, Aguero seems to be a much better partner to David Silva.
So, OK, they did show promise BUT considering the oppostion and the circumstances it seems a reach to suggest that they were “awesome”.
Good article and agree with a lot of it but do not agree with blind loyalty….loyalty yes but not blind. With de Gea, yes the criticism is too much and too soon but to say that any criticism of the club, that I and all of you love, is wrong (which is not suggested by the article but comments on this and other threads) is condescending and authoratarian.
kanchelskis,
I’m joggin the fuck on quite nicely thanks.Oh when your out and about don’t forget to wear your jacket with the sleeve patches you sorry tit.
Two ‘proper’ games for United this season. Two wins. 94 mins only of premier league game time. Only an idiot or an ABU journalist looking for a tabloid angle could write off David’s ability in so short a space of time.
Anyway, howler? What howler? Yes, David should have done better with the WBA goal but ‘howler’ is way the top. Seaman’s errors re Nayim and Ronaldhino for Arsenal and England respectively were proper howlers – result-changing stuff. Yet Seaman is remembered as great keeper (quite rightly too).
Get off the kid’s back!
anyone still stuck up on sneijder can check twitter.. the place is going bollocks..
apparently sneijder’s agreed a 33.7 mil deal with 200k a week….
bollocks if you ask me.
oh and yes DDG is great he’s like a miniature VDS
criticism is definetly acceptable & part & parcel of what being a fan is all about. but fans labeling an important player of ur team shite, a flop, should be drop immediately after 2 games is crossing the line, this is not criticism on a player’s performance, this is plain stupid. esp when you know the ABUs will be on his back & what he need now is a United support.
It is if no surprise whatsoever that parryheid is getting on his high horse. He has been quite vocal about De Gea for a while. He wanted Craig fucking Gordon who has played around 2 games in 18 months.
Oh and lets see how the fucking bitters get on at Goodison shortly . Fuc them cunts. It was Swansea.
Thank god I am abroad as I couldnt stomach the wankfest from the media.
Before I go I have a great suggestion lads. Lets play Fletcher at centre half. You couldnt make this shit up.
seriously where are these rumours from that we have bid 16m for Cheik Tiote?!
Shitty looked awesome???? my fucking arse they did. 1st half they looked a bit lost to me and ok they came out 4-0 winners and granted Aguero took his goals well but give it 6 months and he’ll be giving it all the ” oh i don’t like it here ” shite. Wait till Kevin Davis kicks the shite out of him on a freezing Monday night or John Terry asks for his birds phone number he’ll soon be off to Madrid or Barca. Shitty beat Swansea ( no disrespect to Swansea ) at home in their first game of the season a game they were more than expected to win. If that makes them awesome then im a fucking Frenchman. Oh and did anyone see how many fans there was at Shitty last night. The place was at most 3 quaters full. Big club my cock.
That is the only positive thing about DaGea on the entire world wide web right now probably.. should really help some ‘fans’ find perspective!!
yeah.. tiote is alright, will only add to numbers.
rohan19 @ 13:55: “anyone still stuck up on sneijder can check twitter.. the place is going bollocks..
apparently sneijder’s agreed a 33.7 mil deal with 200k a week….”
I like this rumour better:
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/08/14/man-united-to-make-shock-14m-bid-for-newcastle-united-star/
tiote is the exact opposite to WS.
this is bloody confusing.
and adebayor to spurs in 48 hrs so that he can live in jones’ pocket as of monday
Milesplattingred – I’ve heard of club foot, but club cock must be a real knock-out with the ladies!
Reserve team boss Warren Joyce said: “The manager and Darren will be delighted that he got a very good work-out in a very tough game.
“There was a lot of running and chasing to be done and it was a tremendous effort by him. As long as there is no reaction then he’ll probably be training for the rest of the week and the manager will see how he goes from there.
“It is his first match and he’s still in pre-season really. He’ll build up from this and hopefully go from strength to strength. But he’s come through a hard 90 minutes unscathed and that’s good for Darren’s health and good news for the club.”
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/fletcher-comeback-boosts-uniteds-crisis
Come on United!
“Aguero took his goals well but give it 6 months and he’ll be giving it all the ” oh i don’t like it here ” shite. Wait till Kevin Davis kicks the shite out of him on a freezing Monday night or John Terry asks for his birds phone number he’ll soon be off to Madrid or Barca.”
Yeah mate for that money they could have signed good old big English lad Andy Carroll!
Aguero’s Argentinian. Last time I checked those guys from South America (especially Argentina and Uruguay) give out much tougher punishment than lumbering English geezers like Davies and Terry.
The guy’s a class player. Such a waste on City. Shame a big club didn’t come in for him (Although I think Juventus did, but they sadly can’t compete financially with Man f’in City)
can’t understand why we’d play 14 mil for titote. (spelling deliberate)
6-7 sounds ok. but he’s not by any means united standar.. would prefer barton to him… atleast he’ll scare the shit out of arsenal next time
I can’t stop laughing at Milesplattingred’s classic line!
“Big club my cock!”
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ! ! !
Why are so called Reds having a go at him, he will prove to be a top class keeper. I agree with Scott that Tiabi’s was a howler,the WBA goal was lack of concentration. He probably is thinking too far ahead to who is going to get the ball next rather than the actual straight forward save?
If he is dropped now as some want his confidence will be smashed and it will make things even harder for him if he won his place back.
Yes we can’t afford to make mistakes in this league but we won so it wasn’t doom and gloom.
Back the lad – WE ARE NOT SHITTY – we do not turn our backs on our team like those twats do every time they score.
parryheid
Ooh, I’m singled out for a retort am I?
I’d be tempted to ask you to reply to everyone who’s taken objection to the blob of spaff you posted earlier, but that’d take so long it might make you late for your post-lobotomy therapy appointment.
2 games and thats it sack him sell him..infact put him in the reserves that will help him………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
imho kun is more a spanish andy carroll than a brazilian romario.. my grandmom could’ve scored against that defence
mike summerbee is a twat
King Eric.
You are a lying cunt.So lets take you back in time with your selective memory.One year ago I posted on here an Sunderland so called ITK supporter provided a link showing Craig Gordon and stating it was already agreed he would be transferred to United this summer.You a guy called Jeet,Kings and one other slaughtered him.You were the most vociferous regarding his ability citing among other things his lack of body strength,cross ball handling etc,when I gave you a tug on your remarks you apologised as and this is the funny bit,you hadn’t even opened the guy’s link yet were spouting shite about all the things you now praise the dud De Gea doesn’t have.You sir are a Liar and a Hypocrite to boot.Get back in the archives and check then post it up here you obnoxious Cunt.While were on the subject of goalkeepers show where I put Gordon name forward but I will say Gordon while still injured recovering from his knee operation is Twice the keeper than our clown is.
Last few days there were many who criticized De Gea, Now its good to see the support ..well done lads!!
kanchelskis.
You want to make remarks to me on my views and think you are being cute then take your lumps.Now get back to the clients.
@parryheid
And in English?… for the benefit of us that don’t speak Cunt.
@brett1985, Ooh, I am all for constructive criticism. That is also one of the main duties we as supporters have. In fact, I said that he should definitely bulk up like Chicharito did, otherwise he will be made mincemeat of by clubs like Bolton/Stoke/Blackburn. We already hear news that he is one the same program Javier was an year ago which is the best news. But criticizing his abilities as a GK is simply blind to his performances for Atletico and Spain U-21.
kanchelskis.
in English Social worker,so run on.
@parryheid. : the clown you’re talking about is 20 years age.. im sure you were much more of a clown at 20. you seemed wise about the WS issue but now mate you’re just sad.
you seriously think craig gordon is the twice the keeper DDG is?
did you get a degree in being a laughing stock? cause thats what you’re gonna be very soon..
give DDG a break…
parryheid says:
kanchelskis.
in English Social worker,so run on.
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Are you using some kind of random word generator to write your posts now?
I have reading to do, just sat down. Great read STR.
The term supporter has a dictionary definition of “to give strength to; maintain”
Some say they love this club and don’t. Tear down rip apart and say everyone thinks this is shit. Not everyone does. And then they rip Gibbo, Carrick and Rooney the man the team has been built around. And on top of that they attack us and say were fucking stupid. Wow a lot of angry people out there who must attack what they love most.
Now this is not all, some have a different point of view and that is fine again what STR said.
“The term supporter has a dictionary definition of “to give strength to; maintain””
DDG is a great young keeper who is SAF pick.
was listenento mike summerbee earlier…this guy is a retard he says ” IF THERE WERE 3/4 GAMES LEFT WE WOULD HAVE WON THE LEAGUE”
wat planet does this fat shite live on..so we would have lost our last 3/4 games then dum fuck sein as we finished 9 points ahead with a better goal difference..
jog on retard
This is brilliant, way better than neighbours
Cedars loves Cedars clique, I would like to become a charter member please.
parryheid : you’re not fit to lace DDG’s boots. stfu.
learn some actual english. yours is more like gibberish
Parryheid – Please answer these questions for me please !
1- Are you a United Supporter?
2- Do you support our management?
3- Are you questioning SAF’s decison to buy De Gea? and Doubting the skills of the backroom staff?
4- Was you calling for Berba,Carrick,Nani,Ferdinand,Vidic,Evra,Gibson,evans’s head when they first joined or had a bad spell of form?
5- Are you angry that United have signed a promising, 6ft4, 20 year old goalie to replace a retired hero?
6-Are you against the price tag and who would you have liked?
7- What conclusions can you have possibly reached on the basis the lad has only played 180 mins?
8- Why would you call our own player a “dud” or “clown”? Did you call Berba “lazy” or Rooney “fat” or Evans “crap” or Rio “past it” or Vidic “scared of torres”?
I thought you was a United Supporter, answer the questions above and we will see you for what you are. Choose your words carefully as you have already lost the respect of many here for your premature reaction and dismissal of David De Gea.
@MG 11:01 awesome.
Never Die 58
19
@parryheidm making friends today I see. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I think we all need to have a look at the story regarding Phil Jones before we get on poor little Davids back,
http://smurfshole.blogspot.com/2011/08/is-man-utds-new-signing-phil-jones-fish.html
Few people seem extremely concerned about my view on our goalkeeper,too bad that but it’s my view I don’t rate him and I am not alone,and rohan 19 my comment on Gordon is a tack on in my reply to a liar.Laughing stock ? in the case of De Gea I doubt it and I am not stupid enough not to know he will make some great saves in the future Christ even Forster and Thomaz will do that.But I will always be waiting on the howlers every game and so if they would admit it will the rest of the support whenever he is between the sticks,but who knows you may be different.
@parryheid
clown and dud…….wat after 2 games????
u name me 1 player he has never been at fault for somthing??
harsh words mate..the guy needs are backing not are bollucking..
mark my words he will b a big player this season.
i meant name 1 player WHO not he…..:)
Zibbie
You are officially a member of the Cedars loves Cedars clique…. Welcome aboard
parryheid
Who would you rather have had in goal as opposed to this young Spanish clown?
Craig Gordon over David De Gea ??? Some-ones having a laugh, surely.
For those who wish to write of De Gea so quickly, let me say this. If idiots like you were running this club we would never be as strong as we have become. Idiots like you would have disregarded Sir Alex Fergusons achievements in Scotland, demanding instant success instead and would have shown him the door when that success wasn’t immediately forthcoming.
cedars love clique,bit gay isn’t it? not that there’s anything wrong in that.
Clintiamyourpapil.
See my previous post about others worry on my view.I would suggest you go to archive you will get the whole of the history there..If you want to see sweat watch some navvies digging a hole,Artistes don’t sweat. (ring any bells?)go there and form your own opinion on whether in your eyes I am or am not a supporter.I’ll ask you did you have a view/make a comment on my point about Hargreaves some time back I wonder.
yeah some cunt who called themselves united supporters will try to justify their views when they got something they don’t like about the players or club. Forget about who player SAF not signed and support the one who really play for united. De Gea need our support right now. Not just from SAF and teammates.
AUGUST 16, 2011 AT 12:35
smartalex , thanks I was confused.
Thank you as well Rob.
wayne – Hardly, its me loving me, weird of course but not gay, I mean what can I really do to my self?
Please do not answer that! lol
Yes, If loving Cedars is wrong, I don’t want to be right!
I got in touch with my feminine side in Aug. of 87. And did not leave my house until Feb. of 88.
A self love period I will never forget.
This guy is surely one of the best thing around. Go De Gea!!! Go United!!!
Agreed, lets get behind the boy. Hes a fantastic talent and deserves our support.
Being United fans we all have to deal with our fair share of ‘fans’ who buy the shirt but lack real passion and belief.
Those of us with the belief, well, we believe. In Fergie we trust.
@parryheid : you’ve made us remember billbob. thats a big achievement
CedarsDevil.
You have a problem accepting people,namely me have differing views from the majority or are you just currying favour with the majority? More to the point why would you even be interested in my choice apart from the fact it’s not the present incumbent.Has this Morphed into views I hold or what,Weird
Ah, bill bob the knob, sort of brings back some sort of memories…. Can hardly remember though, must have been during my heavy medication period.
Good day King Eric, how’s Dubai, buddy? I hope you don’t mind, I decided to do the search parryheid asked you for, as I know you are unfamiliar with the method, and might take days instead of minutes to do it! No offense meant.
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APRIL 18, 2010 AT 14:01 parryheid says:
Joe hart,Buffon not the goalkeeper for me.Craig Gordon of Sunderland he’s the future and now has premier experience.
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MAY 5, 2010 AT 13:39 parryheid says:
For me I would leave Buffoon for others to squabble over and nab Gordon from Sunderland before The arsenal make the move for him.
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NOVEMBER 14, 2010 AT 17:44 parryheid says:
If United are thinking about getting any Sunderland player in the summer it’s Gordon their goalie they should be asking to be kept informed about.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2010 AT 15:11 parryheid says:
De Gea.I hope not keep watching MOTD right through till January or right until the end of the season and pay particular attention to Sunderlands goalie.De Gea couldn’t live with Gordon.
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NOVEMBER 18, 2010 AT 18:57 parryheid says:
A Gordon for me
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JANUARY 13, 2011 AT 13:57 parryheid says:
If we are buying a goalkeeper for next season I would go for Britains record priced goalie no question,and that man is Flash Gordon.
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JANUARY 17, 2011 AT 18:38 parryheid says:
If any deals are to be done with Wellbeck to Sunderland make it Flash Gordon + some cash forget Henderson
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JANUARY 27, 2011 AT 12:36 parryheid says:
I thought Gordon’s ability is incredible especially against all the premier top teams.
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FEBRUARY 5, 2011 AT 18:47 parryheid says:
can you seriously say that first equaliser was not a foul on Gordon’s arm + offside and since posting that item I have made a point of watching his matches and I think he is shit hot.
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Guys Thanks for the Flechanator updates!!!!!!!
Who’s the lying cunt now, parryheid?
parryheid
Calling me weird is actually spot on and no secret on RoM…. However my question was actually genuine, if you have no faith in De Gea and therefore calling him a clown than surely you must have someone else in mind, no? I was not baiting you in anyway
Well said!! All De Gea needs, is our patience, support and protein shakes!
Smartalex – The question is, does he still want flash Gordon? Or, did I misread all those posts?
willierednut – Perhaps if we read them backwards, skipping every second word we might understand the subliminal message!
CedarsDevil – Weirdo!
Thank you Willie, I really appreciated mate
All I’m going to say on this subject is….Manchester Utd V West Brom – 16/10/2010 – Edwin Van Der Sar in goal – Final score 2 – 2.
Anyone who is doubting De Gea and fucking whinging, watch the highlights and see what our EXPERIENCED goalkeeper did to cost us 3 points!!…. Now then shut the fuck up and get behind our new 20 YEAR OLD goalkeeper for fuck sake!! Fucking disgraceful!!
parryheid
If we could, we could have gone on with VDS forever but since that cant happen we have to move on. The lad is 20 and he has potential and let the experts at UTD do what they know best nurturing talent. Am sure SAF & Steele are aware of all that needs to be done and like SAF has said before there is no sentiment. Just plain proffesionalism and giving a youngster a chance.
Did United sign Almunia?
Parryheid –
like politicians, you have wormed out of answering 1 of my many questions which took me 3 mins to think of. I hoped you would return my 3 minutes by answering a few questions, Alas you have not.
Of course De gea will make mistakes, VDS made plenty last season and seasons before, it doesn’t label him a “clown”.
My opinion has been formed of you and to be honest im dissapointed that “fans” could form such a solid opinion of a lad that has had 2 appearances and is being judged unfairly by ABU fans & many prick pundits this week.
You asked me about your hargreaves post, please provide me with a link because i am online through a phone and it would take me decades and perhaps the duration of a rising of a certain blue moon to find this post of yours.
parryheid
Its a pity really, you see whilst you were being slaughtered like a turkey on some sort of holiday…. Ah gotta love a properly stuffed turkey, if its not cooked well mind you, would taste like shit…Oh where am I going with this, I strayed off topic… Ok so whilst you were being slaughtered I came in with what i thought would be a decent debate.. ah well
King Eric – LOL exactly, many are being captain heindseight
Defcon 3
We are counting down
This is what happens when some fans are persuaded far too easily by outside sources
To deny this would be near suicidal – so it’s apparent that we are where we are
Let the lines as they say continue to be drawn
All I’m going to say: It is common knowledge that Eric Steele followed the guy for 18 months. That is 2 and a half fucking years. He has been bought after extensive research. There were multiple targets lined up in the form of Stekelenburg and Neuer. Edwin actually wanted Martin Stekky, but he dropped the Ajax trophy under the bus, so that’s a no go. Neuer wanted to join Bayern and that’s all I got to say about that. David was the best remaining option. In a way, it went along with the revolution Sir Alex had planned. He wanted his last greatest team to be another young side so that he can probably leave who ever takes over with just the right blend of youth and experience to mold it into any shape he wants. David was the perfect option for Sir Alex’s plans for his team. Young, immense talent, will fit right in and, given time</i? will prove to be the lynchpin of this team.
Some people actually think they can do a better job than the best management team in the word. Do you guys have any fucking idea how much insight and research goes before shelling money on a signing? Literally every minor details is noted to see whether a player would be the perfect fit for us. If you have any idea on the management process at any level at all, you won't be so oblivious to the little details? When Sir Alex's managerial capabilities have been displayed and proven for over 26 years, some people still choose to slight his meticulous attention to details.
Smartalex where’s the post I mentioned did you overlook it ?didn’t it fall in with your plans,All remarks made are in response to goalkeeping who would you have’s asked by other posters as you well know.
and I well know who the lying bastard is.
@parryheid : why the man-love for gordon? are you straight? or a swinging pendulum?
By the way this is sad – because you get this shit from idiots who support anyone but United but when some United supporters do it to others it makes it painfully hard to live with.
Unfortunately their is no getting them to understand this – their is no balance and therefore their is no appreciation that falling off the chair is the last case scenario that shouldn’t be taken for the first step.
@Buster II
patience, support and protein shakes!
PSP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I was still so young that 18 months felt like 2½ years! It feels like a week and a half to me!
weird (wîrd)
adj. weird·er, weird·est
1. Of, relating to, or suggestive of the preternatural or supernatural.
2. Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange.
3. Archaic Of or relating to fate or the Fates.
CidersDevil – You sir are supernatural and strikingly odd.
Listen parryheid, Gordon is a decent keeper, but he ain’t better than De gea. To call the lad a dud after a couple games, is just plain stupid. The lad from Stoke shits all over Gordon as well. I’d take him over flash Gordon.
parry please hide
@balaji
All I’m going to say: It is common knowledge that Eric Steele followed the guy for 18 months. That is 2 and a half fucking years.
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Lol. I agreed with your post, but I’m not gonna lie, you started it on the wrong foot!
Balaji Sivaraman, nice post mate.
I thought De Gea made some great saves and he is for sure a talent.
I would like to see him be a bit more vocal (language barrier obviously) and he needs to make his presence known for crosses.
Otherwise he did make at least one top notch save. He seems like a nice lad and he will try his hardest to succedd, he wouldn’t be here obviously.
I wouldn’t say he has been more ‘calamitous’ then Barthez or Carrol thats for sure!
I think MARSH is a legend, great posts and contributes immensely to the site.
Capitan Hindsight
Fergie is the boss
I think we’ve all arrived at a very special place. Spiritually, ecumenically, grammatically.
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JANUARY 27, 2011 AT 15:42 parryheid says:
Not so Smart, alex.
For some reason you appear to think you are the forum jester.Buffoon more like,Bit of advice, button it.I n fact just ignore me completely as I am about to regarding you.
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Wow parryheid! Are you talking to me now because you really do love me?
MOTION – BAN PARRYHEIDS IP ADDRESS FROM THE SITE
All in favour say EYE
Weirdo! In my experience, is a good to great thing. Not the normal, bland same old thing.
Papii
Why thank you very much…..
@kanchelskis, LOL! Yeah, now that you mention it, I have this weird image of Steele covertly stalking De Gea’s every move through my head. Mind you, I would like to have a camera in his living room just to get a glimpse of Edurne naked.
@Zibbie, Cheers mate.
Balaji ?
Eric Steele followed the guy for 18 months. That is 2 and a half fucking years.
————- In Dog Years? ———————- Put down the ganja fella
Ban him for what? Lol. We disagree, but to ban anyone for voicing their opinion, is poppycock!
Thanks Cedars.
rohan 19.
No reason to hide point still stands where’s the missing /deliberately excluded post?Yes Willierednut he is better.
Papii
Balaji lost it a long time ago, been keeping the wrong company on RoM
Craig Gordon
He is injury prone
He hasn’t been offered a new contract by a mid-table club
… yet he is good enough for Manchester United ???!!!
COME-ON
I thought Balaji knew his numbers? Lol.
@Balaji
I’m talking more about the maths side of things. 18 months is one and a half years!
@kanchelskis and Papii, LOL! And here I am hoping that my math skill may just get me through the very difficult MBA examinations. God help me.
Zibbie – I agree
Weird > Boring
Cheers Willie
I blame it all on Cedars.
I don’t really think lynching DeGea after only 2 games is fair or in any way justified HOWEVER, I am firmly in the Lindegaard camp. There is no reason A L shouldn’t be given EVERY opportunity to take over the no. 1 slot. He has shown a much better presence in net – he’s been very steady, made some sensational saves and controls the box when balls are crossed in (something DeGea has looked VERY shaky on). And, in my humble opinion, the only reason DeGea would continue to get the nod is because of his lofty price tag which is not a good reason. DeGea is only 20, and if Lindegaard is PRESENTLY the better keeper, there should be no reason he shouldn’t be considered for our no.1 slot. DeGea has PLENTY of years ahead of him.
Im only having a laugh, parryheid knows I’d suck him off in heart beat, same for the rest of you.
Balaji – I think we should take it from the top… Right then 1 + 1 =?
No cheating and no helping him out lads.
@Cedars, Well, if you’re the one asking the questions, the answer is 3.
@Costas
Hi mate….sorry for the late response, got caught up at work..
The investors will want to invest in it for the dividends or because they are fans and want to be part of the club’s ownership. Dividends are a discretionary item, unlike interest. We are forced to pay interest on the bonds and debt otherwise our assets will be taken over by the banks and stripped/sold off. But dividends may or may not be paid by the club, which means that if the club decides to spend heavily in one or two years, we can choose not to pay dividends in that year and pay them later when the results improve. So thats the benefit there
@Willie
It’s a good thing because our debt burden gets lighter and we can afford to have extra cash in the coffers. However, it may not be such a good thing if the people to whom such shares are sold are not fans of the club and insist on heavy financial rewards such as dividend. Also if they start to interfere in the running of the club, then its an issue, SO we need to be VERY CAREFUL as to the people to whom such shares are issued. But I guess the chances of that happening are less because the Glazers will probably set the dividend expectations at the time of the issue itself.
@Cedars
Hello mate….well in football terms, it means we might have a few extra quid available in our bank accounts….!!
@Zelh
It could be..they may be trying to pay off their personal debt, but I doubt that they would do that…it would get them really butchered in the media
Also the point about it being an IPO, doesn’t necessarily mean that its a general public sale…there are different methods of share sale…so we need more clarity there
ALL this is provided that the news is not bullshit in the first place because David Gill came out rather recently to say that Glazers are not looking to sell.
parryheid called King Eric a “lying cunt” at 14:49 because King Eric said parryheid “has been quite vocal about De Gea for a while. He wanted Craig fucking Gordon” at 14:01 on this thread.
The list of parryheid’s previous comments posted at 15:48 proves that King Eric was not lying.
I see no apology from parryheid for lying like a cunt.
bridgoldy – off with his head, he has slightly different opinion to the majority of us!
@cedars i’m talking about others who want to join the cedars loves cedars clique,alot of people suffer from narcissism mate.lol
@smartalex lol no one should ever make a challenge to find old posts you destroy them everytime
I’ll have a steak and kidney PIE !
Easy on the vegetable oil, don’t want to get high cholesterol. I’d like it with a a dash of Worcestershire sauce please and 2 onions, 3 is too much and too oniony.
Remember Bake for 30-40 minutes at 220C/425F/Gas mark 7. Use oven gloves for your own health & safety and please wear a hairnet and do not scratch your body parts whilst cooking.
Thanks, Get to it lads.
Chop Chop, Beef Chop, Lamb Chop, not bloody Pork chop, just Chop Chop. Not made in a wok.
How old is parryheid ? -10?
Is Parryheid Craig Gordon’s agent? Fucking hell.
Troy.
He is and will prove it.
SmartsirAlex – Curious, I just did a search on my comments and found out indeed, I am also a cunt.
I suppose you are what you eat!
Count Balaji – Please re-read my comment at 16:08.
Balaji – You passed your first exam with flying colors….. MBA should be a piece of cake now
james – very funny!
If you are what you eat, wouldn’t that make you a cock?
james @ 16;24
Cheers for the visual buddy!
@smartalex, LOL! I was wondering the reason for the sudden random appearance of that post. Now, I know why. I was literally too dumb to understand why Kanchelskis pointed out that the first time even. Cedars has just been dethroned as the dumbest poster on ROM. I have that crown now.
@Cedars, Oh, Thank you for that master. I will now have all the confidence to approach my exams without far.
Wayne – I’m checking old quotes of mine just in case lol.
Rightr here come the words of wisdom as alot of you have the IQ of rocking horse shit between you.
DeGea has made some clangers, he has faced very few shots or balls into the box the past 2 matches and statistically he has dealt with them woefully. I dont think for one minute hes a dud but I dont think for one minute that he is good enough to be Manchester Uniteds No1 at present. Why? becausze its a possition and the only possition you cant let someone get used to his new surroundings. A bad first 15 games and your already out of the running for the league and struggling in the champions league. Its that simple.
Parryheid I agree with you and commend your spirit by sticking by your guns about your reservations about DeGea despite the yes man brigade that are ganging up against you. However you must be mentally insane if you think Craig Gordon is a good keeper and an answer. He is as fragile as DeGea and his injury record proves that. I wouldnt even rank Gordon in the top 10 goalkeepers in the premier league. I find him a flapper, lightweight, not that agile, an averager shot stopper and a poor passer. Fuck me Id prefer Foster.
DeGea no doubt will come good BUT its not the player we are concerned about (those that are less than enthusiastic) its the choice to play him when its clear hes not ready.
Damn it the wee Barton & Sneijder Cliques have failed in their relentless persuit of happyness.
The time has come for honesty !
I have always been an Honorary member of the Wee Peeping Tom Clique
LOL I LOVE THIS PLACE.
poppycock
wayne – It’s really easy to search for old comments, so when parryheid challenges King Eric to search the archives it would be better for him if he was truthful.
Those defending parryheid should note that he called King Eric a lying cunt, when in fact King Eric spoke the truth. That is not acceptable, and requires parryheid’s abject apology.
Balaji – Right then, lesson number 2, how to write without typos… You mean fear not far…
You guys with your typos make me sick, sick to the bone
Parryheid
Let’s agree to disagree.
Smart alex.
You see no reason for producing the post i mention?Wouldn’t be because it preceded the ones you did post .Would it?Couldn’t be because you were taken to task by me when you stuck your nose in to defend in your words a good poster by any chance.
smartalex – Arsenal lost their appeal. Gervinho Williams won’t make our game.
Gordon is better than De Gea
Bramble is better than Smalling
Andy Carroll is better than Chicharito
Reece Brown joins Doncaster Rovers on a one-month loan, and goes into the squad for tonight’s game v Nottingham Forest.
great to hear that for our new wes
willierednut – you’re too sensible to make false claims!
Anyway, it would take years for google to sift through all your one-liners.
but I should still call Fergie and tell him to sign Yolanthe up. she’s freaking hot.
18Months = 2 & 1/2 years
Cheese and rice, by my revised calculations I should have retired ages ago.
Goat
Yes man brigade? A new name for those who support a United player who is unjustly being slaughtered after 2 competitive matches which we won? Count me in that brigade mate
@Goat, That was not what Parryheid stated. He openly called De Gea shit in matchday thread. I find that sick and disgusting after two games.
In fact, you, Costas and wayne all argued that De Gea should not be played when he is clearly not ready for the PL yet. And we have a good debate about that. Me, Cedars, Willie etc. thought that it was obvious why he couldn’t be dropped at this stage given he has been forced into a corner where the only way out is to play him and let him prove himself. The other side was more skeptical saying he could maybe get a try out in reserves and be given time to build up physically. I don’t see a point in having that debate again. But I don’t see what good dropping will do to him in the current scenarion.
But I would like to point out that the above is what happens when people provide clever, reasonable justifications for a different opinion. Instead of calling shit and repeatedly stating it over and over again. You, Costas and wayne should be commended for having a different opinion. Parryheid should be slated like he is now for calling our player shit after two fucking matches.
@Cedars, That is a very hard lesson to complete IMO.
willierednut – What a shame for Gervinho Williams! She’s such a smashing lad, who will ace it when Whinger has finished servicing her baseline!
One of the best posts I have read, completely agree.
Cedars
lol. i always had yo down as a yes man, only joking. As I tried to say in my post Im not trying to slate him rather make others see my point that i believe hes out of his depth, at present. It would be like putting Morrison in the first team and guarantee him 40 odd matches. Hes a talent, and hes a United player that you have to defend and love but hes no where near ready for first team champions and vhampions league action.
Aguero is the new Romario
Seriously
Kid you not
Troy – hello again! Good to see you back posting on RoM again.
I don’t think you should agree to disagree with a guy that repeatedly calls a RoM regular “a lying cunt” for telling the truth, asks for proof, then completely ignores the masses of proof produced, and continues to call him a lying cunt.
It’s not right.
smartalex says:
willierednut – What a shame for Gervinho Williams! She’s such a smashing lad, who will ace it when Whinger has finished servicing her baseline!
Was that dirty talk because I feel funny in my pants!!
I read in the telegraph that De Gea is frail
I never knew we bought a terminally ill keeper for 17 million.
David hasn’t cost us any games or points thus far so don’t panic!! I’m sure he’ll come through all this.
You young ‘uns don’t know you’re born. I remember Paddy Roche. Good lad though he was, Paddy was real heart attack stuff, goalie wise.
Chill out…
Phuck the typo’s.
Fulcking khill everey won who cant spel a flukking whord. IMHO.
Count Balaji – you’ll always be our number one, you add to the blog, and are a total pro.
6 minutes to a hot Sky babe updating football news.
Fred’
(1) Yes.
(2) Think So.
(3) Ditto.
Anyone for tennis? Goat’s furry balls and net stockings are a match made in Heaven!
Goat
As long as we understand each other then! lol
seriously though mate, we cannot compare a goal keeper with an out field player in terms of whatever risk playing them may bring. De Gea was brought in to be number 1, the coaching staff would not have put him in the firing line up if they thought for one second that he was not ready.
Reserve judgement till after he has played 6 or 7 matches and trust me we will still be in the hunt for all major honors by then….
Or would you rather have Gordon as well? lol
Fuck it got pushed back an hour for the CL game.
Haley with Georgie’s laugh swing!
Balaji Sivaraman
Sorry mate I only read the top message of his in this thread and then skimmed the text a read the attacks on him. I realised from the off that he was swimming against the tide and just followed some of the people criticizing him for it. I like that see.
I dont think DeGea is shit though. You can see that in warm up and in practice when he is in comfortable surroundings that he has a very safe pair of hands. I am watching him and wondering if we havent got the Veron syndrom again where he is massively intimidated by those he has to face along way from home and that is putting a break on his ability. He’ll come good no doubt but like all fans on here we are absolutely determined to win every match and will bark at anyone who jepordises that or looks frail in the attempt.
Good to have someone on here like you with reason that isnt prepared to just shout endless abuse at anyone who as I said swims against the tide.
Goat – Funny in your pants? Don’t tell James that.
@Red Devil
No worries mate. Thanks for the explanation. The way you describe it, I’d say dividends are a better option than paying debts, but I guess it depends on how much the shareholders would get paid. I’ve said it all along that I am not in favor of the Glazers, but if they restructure their business model in a way that will take the load off the club’s back, I’m all for it.
Great read! Have patience with him, he’ll become one of the world’s greatest!
I have no problem with a fan preferring one keeper over another.
The problem with parryheid is his false accusations and unwarranted slanderous epithets that he repeatedly shouted at our erstwhile associate. Then, having been proved absolutely wrong and shown to be a liar, there is no apology or retraction, only continued attacks.
Don’t chat to parryheid until he corrects his abhorrent lies and shows remorse.
I offered a turkey but it did not work
smartalex
You are truly confusing the shorts off me. Are you saying I should agree to agree with a person that I clearly do not agree with? (jus’ yanking your chain)
Seriously though, there will always be those with different opinions … but we need to disagree like adults, not like immature little brats. I told that guy, ‘lets agree to disagree’ as I had no wish to enter into a pointless mud slinging match with some-one who confuses debates with insults.
Red Devil – They won’t sell more than 25% of the Club. So they’ll still be in full controle of the club. We’ll see what they are going to do with that amount of money.
I just laugh at anyone rating gordon has a top keeper, this is without putting into context his injury record, what a great idea sign another player who adds to united’s injury prone backline, like the da silva twins ferdinand. I will just stick with the boss’s view who is and is not good enough, he has done it for 2 decades why stop now
@smartalex, That is high praise indeed buddy and one I am not sure I deserve. However, thank you very much. I’ve grown to love this place more than any other online community I’ve been part of. The family spirit of Manchester United is evident in the banter we share with each other, while the theory that United fans are cleverer than others is also clear from the insightful comments everyone comes up with. ROM is the best and I am proud to share my love for United with all of you whom I consider my mates now. Cheers.
@Goat, Yeah, I agree with you. I feel that the only way he will overcome that is by playing more and more games. Of course, that does leave us susceptible, but I have confidence that our front-line will always score more than the opposition, which has proven to be the case more often than not. And, given that the next two games are at Old Trafford which is a fucking fortress, I don’t see any harm playing him in conditions he should get familiar with as a United player.
Balaji – You’re welcome
@MG
Mr MG how are you 2day?
ok after a long nite and reading over my comment submitted yesterday i firmly want to appoligise as i was tottally wrong..i was actually a bit embarresed this morning when i read my comment as it was very “NOT ME” should i say..i also re-read ur post which i will say was very true, i watch a lot of youth and reseve games and i think i was blind to what was infront of me..i started to name the young players we have in
de gea
fabio
rafa
evans
smalling
jones
tunicliffe
petrucci
pogba
cleverly
young
ando
nani
wellbeck
little pea
morrison
etc etc…
we have a bright future and when i mentioned the statement regarding fergie sayin he was gona get closer to barca..i took it as big names comin in instead of young ones stepping up so i deserved to b called..well all those names and i wish for you to formally except my apoligy and hopefully we can move on from this little debate..it was not a good day for me on ROM.:)
Great post, couldn’t agree more Rob!
Think we should have a list of all the idiots in the press who are using the word howler in the same breath as our star new boy. He has made some very notable saves and all the goals were first half nerves. Second half has been shut outs and wins.
First on the list
1. Alan Hansen
Troy – You are right that descending into an argument with someone who has no intention of considering your views fairly is pointless, and it’s better to ‘agree to disagree.’
Of course, when someone violently attacks a regular with lies, they need to make reparation before even that consideration can be agreed to. He needs to show the ability and desire to be fair and reasonable before any agreements can be made.
It’s all a sad state of affairs, because in between the many and varied despicable attacks that parryheid has launched at our players and RoM regulars over the last year, he occasionally shows decent potential. How to get that inner fan to come out permanently is anyone’s guess.
#2. Bob Cass
nice, mykidscalledcantona
I love MG and his writing prowess.
FletchTHEMAN
Lay off the ale buddy
@MG : and sneijder will come.
#3 Momma Cass?
Off to eat bbl.
Stick Jamie thick as fuck Redknapp on that list as well.
#3 Andy Townsend
Off topic will the Sneijder thing just die?
Latest rumor is that United/Gill have put a final offer on the table in the neighborhood of 180-200/week 5 years. Think this is the offer that Denton Davie is talking about above.
But this math doesn’t really make sense to me. At 200k, this breaks down to 10m/yr wages + 35M signing =80-90M. Without any add ons, that comes to 17M per year with the singing value factored in. Anyone really believe he will be playing for 5 years? I love the lads playing, but I just don’t get the maths here.
Maybe this is why the Glazers are off to Singapore to raise 500M in hard liquid cash?! Just sayin!
@Cedars, Say what buddy?
Smartalex
Put up or shut up just like you did regarding the post you appear unable to find and how come the liar isn’t jumping in to dispute my point .Our erstwhile colleagues.? you are one pompous twat and you know what the other name for a twat is.Produce the post drrrrrrruuuummming of feet
£610 mil, that what news are reporting glazers trying to raise from the IPO in singapore. good news if (i believe) that is going to clear off the debts. on the flip side, glazers can set the dividends payout legitimately take $$ out of the club every year, as they will still be the biggest
shareholder after the IPO.
more good than bad i suppose.
Leave off him if we have a go what chance has he got because the fish&chip paper are allready killing him and the bastards have not finished yet .What did i say last night that twat ladyman in daily fail said city are the best team this country has seen he cant wait for us to fail as a team or individually so we must get behind him 100%.
FletchTHEMAN
Absolutely no clue my friend, just having a weird day and making totally meaningless comments (Like most days I guess! lol )
well i guess there’s a fair chance it might happen. from what i know yesterday was a very important meeting with sneijder’s reps. that went well. so lets see. he comes or he doesn’t we’re all set for no. 20
Good article and i wholeheartedly agree with your point. It’s the same people who had no faith in smalling and hernandez, saying we needed experience. I believe in supporting our players. Some can annoy you at times, but we should trust sir alex’s judgement, he hasnt failed us yet! De gea is so young, and i have no doubt he will serve us very well. Yes, he’ll make some mistakes, but as long as the fans stay behind him, we’ll have a class gk for a long time. Also, the way he starts play from the back will be worth as many goals as he’ likely to let in throuhh “flaws”
I would not mind attending a meeting with Sneijder and his reps, I would smash the buggers to bits…By the time they recover it would be Sep 1st…At least, depending on damages caused of course
DONT CHAT TO PARRYHEID.NOT SO SMARTALEC IS TELLING YOU MY ERSTWHILE ASSOCIATES.
Your right I wouldn’t chat to him myself,oops I am Myself.
DEVILisRED – isn’t the debt about 358 million
smartalex
You actually welcomed me back earlier today. In actual fact I have never been away. I often monitor our site to see what is going on, but for a change I posted today as I have strong feelings on the De Gea issue. That boy is a wonderkid, and it just blows me away that fans can’t see that.
If you think ol’ parryheid is controversial you should have been checking out Arsenal blog sites at the end of last term, and Liverpool blog sites before Dalglish took over. He-he-he-he, those ‘fans’ were at each others throats BIG TIME. I often thought about posing as a fan and posting a few mischievious comments …
… but I didn’t
@Cedars, we all have our days mate. Me? I just hope to grow up to write like Giles!
Motto collection: Never post in haste, it is a waste! Stay positive! Stay Red!
we have 477m pounds of bond debt.
Off topic:
Just got an email from MUST about the Glazers planned sale of stock.
to quote an excerpt:
“This could be the beginning of the end of the Glazers reign and the first step towards a bright new future for Manchester United Football Club under the shared ownership of people who care about our football club above all else.”
MUST have gone on the sauce if they think this will weaken the Glazers. First, it will represent a fraction of Uniteds total value, will raise a pile of cash, will pay the Glazers mountains in dividends, and will not give anyone a voting interest worth the weight of spit. I agree with MUST that it is a good thing because it “might” ease our debt, but I don’t see how this will change anything in Uniteds corporate structure or how this might cause the Glazers to leave. Anything but in my view. Anyone able to explain MUSTs position feel free to have a go.
and we’ve made a net saving of 205k per week in wages after all departures and transfers.
FletchTHEMAN
Always positive and RED here my friend, never harms just to feel silly at times, I find it quite meditating….. Good luck with your writing adventure, I for one will look forward to it
FletchTHEMAN – how MUST think shared ownership will be a good thing long term for the club, did they remember hicks and gillet. If the debt is cleared, and the stable ownership remains the same, that will be a great long term future for the club. Not an ownership, that has way to many shared owners it would cause chaos
parryheid is reminding me of Rafa Benitez with his ‘Facts!’ sheet!
Wait a minute … you don’t think … perhaps … it is Rafa?
smartalex – ‘Interesting’…… Just imagining Mr Burns from the Simpsons saying it
sneidjer sneidjer sneidjer…thats all i here..i actually think i hate the cunt now..hope he doesnt sign now…………………………………………..
nah ignore that hope he does..lol
Excellent article!
CedarsDevil – It could well be Burns! After all, he is a purveyor of toxic waste.
Add it, he does not know English, Chicha had the advantage.
I read that the representative of Chicha said he is already training. That he had a meeting in September with the ManU to see what your contract and health.
Where is the FSW by the way? 51 and unemployed. It was just a matter of time before everyone realized how crap he was.
I was thinking of parryheid’s views, so I did a search on ‘moron’
Moron: a city in eastern Argentina, southwest of Buenos Aires; pop. 641,998.
They used to have 642,000 residents, until Heinze and Tevez left!
NotsoSmartalex’
DONT CHAT ABOUT PARRYHEID,YOU WILL BE GOING AGAINST YOUR OWN DIRECTIVE AND WILL ONLY ENCOURAGE HIM TO RETURN IN KIND.PLUS OTHERS MAY DEFY YOU AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT IRE YOU WILL BRING DOWN ON THEM DONT WE. so talking to myself now I must stop shouting,I will re examine myself it may be I really am Rafa or theragain maybe someone who thinks for themself.
Rafa was seen in London last week, with a toaster under his arm and a couple JD sports bags.
@smartalex
lol very funny
Lol, at least he’s not impersonating a football manager anymore. Doesn’t need to anyway. He got two generous compensation packages within 9 months. He’s set for life.
… and a facts machine!
parryheid can you please do yourself a favour and fuck off? Go wank here http://www.wallpapersfolder.com/user-content/uploads/wall/o/7/craig_gordon_wallpaper.jpg
Feel like it is hard to have a decent conversation while the teenagers are having a pillow fight in the same room.
Right, catch you all later to see if there is any pressing news.
On topic:
The force is strong with this lad de Gea. He must be watched and kept safe from the dark side. The Sith lord Hansen is watching!
Talking to myself I say what do I do when someone else becomes a not Erstwhile Associate.I know now I have to go and dry my legs as I pissed myself laughing.
damn posted this comment on the other thread
Costas durham really is going beyond losing the plot now. Why should I be suprised, but it needs to be said
Durham says LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL and that is not enough LOL’s on what the ginger minge says
City’s performance last night was better then Barcalona!
-Best performance he’s ever seen in the Premiership!
-United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal are all scared.
-It was ONLY the community shield!
The funny thing is, swansea had better possession at times than shitty. King Eric may have his 16th heart attack listing to this clown
I already told you all where Rafa is these days! Seriously, I’m starting to think people don’t read the thrilling adventures of Agent of Fergie. A few comments wouldn’t go amiss, even if it’s just to call me a cunt.
http://agentoffergie.blogspot.com/2011/08/golden-arches.html
As for De Gea, I’m sure he’s going to be fine. I base this on the simple fact that Sir Alex and our goalkeeping staff tend to know a lot more about football talent than I do, so if it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.
I’ll also mention Celestine Babayaro for absolutely no reason at all and in full knowledge that he has no bearing on this topic at all.
De Gea is like spanish wine – he will mature as time goes by. Give him time! If he leaves a bitter taste in our mouths at the end of the season, we’ll need some whiskey however.
…And now I just realised I’m out of toilet paper…F%/&
Cyril
Big fan of your blog mate, read all your excellent entries and hope everyone here does the same…
That Babayaro comment had me in stitches……. Brilliant stuff
@FITB
Hi mate. Lol, good thing KE is on vacation at the moment. He didn’t have his blood pressure reach new heights.
I didn’t watch the game, but come on now. How can beating a team consisting of Alan Tate, Lita and Routledge 4-0 anything other than a good performance? Bernstein made sure thet had a good start and that’s all there’s to it. Say Bolton beat Swansea just as convincingly. Will they label them as world beaters too? It’s nonsense. If City have one advantage over us at the moment is the easier schedule and their healthy squad. But the playing field will be level during the 2nd half of the season.
As for best performance ever in the Premiership, I may be biased, but United-Arsenal 6-1 will never be topped imo.
What’s all this yarn about Craig Gordon? Christ almighty.
He’ll come good, no doubt. In fact i’d be more worried if he wasn’t making mistakes, it would make me nervous that he might be storing up a sackful of blunders for a final or a crucial end-of-season league encounter… if he’s making mistakes now that’s fantastic, it gives Eric Steele a chance to put em right nice and early.
costa with regards to mentioning ronaldo being eased into the first team,,,,well as far as i remember he made his debut on the first fixture at home to bolton,came of the bench though and played a crucial role in 3 of the 4 goals……
Billie Jean King vs Gervinho Williams.
Who would win?
@asim jan
I remember that. But he didn’t become a regular starter despite that first performance. It was towards the end of 03-04 that Fergie started him on a weekly basis.
@FletchTHEMAN
Interesting post regarding the stock market float.
I dont think they will pay off the bond debt even if they raise 1b in usd.
It doesnt make financial sense. It would be cheaper for the Glazers to pay off the interests and refinance the bond issue in 2017. This is how most finance companies work.
The United bonds were oversubscribed when they were issued. i.e. they were in demand, Glazers could sell the bonds above face value. If they are going to buy the bonds back they would have to pay above face value as well. It doesnt make sense to pay off the bond debt for them.
I expect them to pay of the PIK debt, if there is any left and then pocket a big sum and may be invest in the team a bit.
Just saw a tweet from Tony V which seemed to suggest Rio was on the mend?!
Good good news if that is true. Still, de Gea has been stronger with the youngsters in front of him. Wonder if he relaxes too much with Rio and Vidic. Just saying.
Lee Probert will be the ref for the Spurs game on Monday.
@Cedars – Thank you very much sir, your support is greatly appreciated. With all the unpleasantness going on, I think we all need to take a moment and get things in perspective. We all need to realise that there are worse things to worry about than a young lad making a mistake in a football match that we won anyway.
Personally I am more concerned with the instability of the economy, social unrest, world hunger and Eboue’s proposed move to Galatasaray which will make them guranteed Chamions League finalists. We can only hope they encounter Barca along the way.
Cyril
Wait, what? Eboue left the league? Bloody hell now I know why the latest polls showed that PL ratings have fell drastically
@AnomanderRake I agree completely. No crystal ball, but that sounds a good bet. There will be funds to pay off some debt but they won’t touch the bonds. This current deal will allow them to make increased profits. These are smart businessmen starting to make United into a real money making machine. If we are lucky, they will fund some players to keep their machine well oiled.
Top of the league on the morning of May 14, 2012.
I hope Lee doesn’t probe our back 5.
@ Cedars – It looks like he’s going. Tht sly old fox Arsene is keeping it under the radar by using the less-significant Fabregas transfer as a smokescreen. I fear there will be more riots started by outraged Gooners once they find out.
@costa you are spot on regarding ronaldo being a regular…..hopefully degea would soon sort out his blushes and turn out to be a real great signing…the only problem he might be facing is the fact hes wearing the shirt of the biggest and most followed club in the world and not to mention all the abus,he would be under magnified scrutiny……its being mentioned that hes another taibi,,,carrol or for that matter howard(porto),they all never came in with much reputation nor were in any way at par with degea…sir alex cant get it wrong again.barring barca he never has got it wrong twice..
i BELIEVE in DDJ
Cyril Sneer hahahahahahaha.
CL starts today!
I think Arsenal’s starting 11 is their worst since Wenger took over the team..
No really classy players
Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Song, Ramsey, Walcott, Rosicky, Gervinho, Chamakh.
Costas – no question the GK position is more unforgiven than wide right
Oh it’s meant to scratch my back.
Kebab protein shakes. Fletchanator has been drinking them.
This might have been mentioned considering the amount players cost anyone else think 35 mill to low for fabregas
The Gunners can loose this thing….. wow no CL $ this year and maybe out of the top 4 this year, sucks to be a Gunner. PSG is calling Arse…..
unforgiven, Clint is a great man, SAF can take him.
ah gervinho.
pure class
The Arse need to sign a big player to make a statement. I can see them looking at Snjieder, they have the money and need a replacement for Fabregas.
the durham thing today was hilarious. he must be getting heat from the boys in the board room about low ratings. Better than Barcelona? You’re having a laugh
Lol keane joined the Galaxy and said its a dream come true,that boy has had a lot dreams come true
I want to puke if I see a person on twitter calling himself United_expert and saying we’ll only finish 2nd and will never ever beat barca with our players.
@Redlife Gunners have a pay structure in place,think that’s one of the main reasons losing players.Won’t give WS 200+k per week
wayne, Yeah, it’s sort of become a meme with even the British press catching on. Almost every paper I’ve read is calling this his “dream move” in quotes. So, I think everybody has finally caught on to his act now.
the scottish wonder, I wouldn’t say they are entirely devoid of class. Van Persie, when fit, is one of the best strikers in the league along with Rooney, Drogba and Torres (to name a few). Of course, key words being “when fit”. Wilshere and Ramsey are great prospects. Of course, the problem is, unlike at United, they’ve got no guiding hand on the shoulder. No one to take them through the darkenss into the light. And I think Vermaelen is the only decent defender they’ve got. I wouldn’t want him in my team, but unlike everybody else at Arsenal, at least this guy can defend. Except Fabregas, I don’t think the other losses are going to hurt them also. I would be glad to see the back of Cliche and Eboue any time of the day. If they can get someone like Cahill in, then that’s a good start for a top-4 finish and possible rebuilding phase. Of course, I can’t see them challenging for a few years at least, but that’s a different story.
wayne – I agree, if Fabregas is 35 million, Carroll should be 5 million. I know there are many factors that determine price, but on the face of it there seems to be no logic applied. So Keane has joined Galaxy? That leaves only 17 dream clubs to cross of his list. He’s worse than Walter Mitty, idiot!
Robbie Keane has been in more dreams than Freddy Kruger
Schalke striker Raul Gonzalez has turned down a move to Premier League side Blackburn, the Bundesliga club’s general manager said Tuesday. “Raul told us that he wants to stay at Schalke and asked us to decline Blackburn Rovers. We have already done that,” Horst Heldt told Schalke’s website.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/soccer/report-blackburn-makes-offer-for-raul/article2131075/
Perhaps he’s a vegetarian. I’m glad he had the sense to turn them down, in fact it shows how out of touch Venky’s are to believe that a legend like Raul would tarnish his legacy by selling drumsticks.
If I recall correctly, this blog recommended De Gea as goalie in one’s fantasy football team…
A bit off topic, but a few of my mates know Joe Hart (Genuinely not lying there) and apparently Shitty are paying every player £3000 for every point they earn……
Exclusive Sir Bobby Charlton Interview by Yolkie.
http://7cantonas.com/2011/08/exclusive-sir-bobby-charlton-interview/
RJ, last year preseason they all got watches worth 1/4 million $.
@smartalex Barca are clever or cunts whatever ones perspective,tap up players through the press long before wanting to sign them,turn the players head,forces the club to sell below value
Yes Robbie signed for his dream team LA lol
@Zibbie
I know, it’s crazy right?
If Shitty are true “contenders” this year they’ll get ~72 points, which = £216,000 as a bonus.
Bunch of dick heads.
Fucking sad desperate cunts can’t get any motivation from the players by over paying wages have to give a bonus per point on top.That is just fucking pathetic
Arsenal already skinned.
Gibbs injured and his back-ups afobe and traore also injured
Intercontinental Club 2nd leg match between Manchester United & Estudiantes of Argentina,George Best gets sent off! 4 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClYEYok-ftU
Also check out other clips and whole matches uploaded by gr8footy. He collects (and buys) old United footage, for anyone interested. I’m sure that Giles Oakley would enjoy speaking with him, and possibly they could collaborate.
look de gea is our player he puts on the manchester united shirt we support him…its that simple
Rooney scores against Bolton, we all remember this counter-attack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70vwb2Rp60o
Don’t like Bellamy think its funny he’s refusing to go anywere and is prepared to play for city reserves and collect 80k a week.Think city are going have to buy out a lot of contracts to get rid of the dead wood
@Pablo
spot on
wayne – Barcelona should become a sister club of Spurs, or whoever ‘arry is with.
They’re a match made in the daily’s. Pathetic!
LOL and djourou Harmstrin
There’s talk of Adebayor joining Spurs before the weekend, with city to continue paying more than half of his wages. They are the laughing stock of world football.
@Wayne
This is how it feels to be city, this is how it feels to be small…..
Sir Bobby on de Gea:
“He’s a great goalkeeper and we knew about that when he was coming. We’ve got a lad in who’s arrived at a strange city, in strange country where they don’t speak the same language, they are completely different,” Charlton said. “They are more passionate about football than any, even Spain. But Alex will work his magic and the staff will work their magic and he will be one of the great players by the end of this season – definitely.”
and sir bobby has to know
you cant judge a player after two games he needs time to develop and im sure he will
he is 20 and we will have a lot of joy watching him in the future
Thanks Zibbie – Your pretty decent aswell
definatly need a bit of muscle in midfield
Smartalex. Hello mate. How are you? Yeah superb pal. Just got back from the worlds tallrest building the burjal kalif. Wow. Thanks for that research mate. Parryheid has the audacity to label me a liar. I literally have no idea what this sunderland itk shite he keeps dragging up. You parrheid sir have made a mug of yourself. Nice one fella.
Smartalex. Thanks for the quote. Sir Bobby is the greatest.
Henry Winter has just joined the @TeamDavidDeGea movement on Twitter.
Says he is writing 2 pieces that will support the lad. I won’t hold my breath, but will welcome the support if it is properly given.
Just finish watching the Arsenal game. Very lacklustre performance from them tonight. No linchpin in the team, so many average players, disjointed squad spirit and low esteem.
I know all this will be directly or indirectly linked with there captain departure. Cant really say am happy the deal went through but am glad it has been finally laid to rest as the saga has started from silly to boring, stopped over at nonsense then back to silly. And all the while i cant help but imagine Cesc as a spoilt baby rubing his eyes with the back of his hands and crying ‘pls let me go home’ but at the back of his he wants to leave ‘cos he knew he’s never gonna get a medal if he stays. Thenext thing we saw is the silly baby smiling like a dummy with thumbs-up and a big barca logo at the background. Sad tale of Arsenal. Now over to Monsseur Wenger and his policyJust finish watching the Arsenal game. Very lacklustre performance from them tonight. No linchpin in the team, so many average players, disjointed squad spirit and low esteem.
I know all this will be directly or indirectly linked with there captain departure. Cant really say am happy the deal went through but am glad it has been finally laid to rest as the saga has started from silly to boring, stopped over at nonsense then back to silly. And all the while i cant help but imagine Cesc as a spoilt baby rubing his eyes with the back of his hands and crying ‘pls let me go home’ but at the back of his he wants to leave ‘cos he knew he’s never gonna get a medal if he stays. Thenext thing we saw is the silly baby smiling like a dummy with thumbs-up and a big barca logo at the background. Sad tale of Arsenal. Now over to Monsseur Wenger and his policy
i feel such disgusted with people who support SHITTY n THE RENT BOYS………what exactly do they support.??…i rather see my club come 2nd or 3rd and be pround rather than supporting such shit…….on every website i go its all abt aguero n aguero………so he scored two goals against swansea……didnt berba even score 5 in one game last season against a much better opposition…….chelshit r offering spuds kalou for modric…the club is a total joke…..and why on earth is rednapp going around broadcasting his opinions about other matches who does he think he is harry potter??/….even he didnt do that in the daily prophet…may be we need a RITA SKEETER…..LOL
Smartalex. Have read more posts and would like to say thanks a lot for vehemently defending me. Appreciate that.
Parrysnide. The reason I didn’t reply is because I am currently in Dubai and frankly had better things to do. Suffice to say I said you wanted Gordon. You did. Where is the lie?
For the record lads eric steele has been tracking de gea since 07.
Fitb. Hello mate. You are joking. Did Durham REALLY say that? I watched the first half and they were fucking shit. That comment is purely to get folk like me enraged. He knows it aint true. United scared? Yeah course we are. Its just another challenge for Fergie and that’s what he thrives on. We have seen better teams off than that. I fucking detest that club. What a fucking idiot Durham is. Did anyone call in and laugh?
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I think De Gea was being hailed a bit too early and prematurely (by calling him the next Casillas) which I did not agree with and now I think people are dismissing him too early. Anyone who follows La Liga will know how good he is with the one-on-ones and in general close range strikes. He however did struggle with shots that came from outside the box and especially balls that were floated in.
I think his career had stagnated at Atletico, who lets face it, are a joke. He needed to move to a better club to become a better player. Considering that both Real and Barca have world class and proven goalkeepers already, a team like Utd seemed the best option. Under the guidance of Sir Alex and United’s coaching team, De Gea will atleast get the opportunity to improve his game and work on his weak areas. Also playing in big games and big competitions will toughen him up, something he would have never got with Pathetico.
It must be noted that De Gea relegated Sergio Asenjo, who until the former’s arrival was seen as the future Spain no.1. And Asenjo is a gook GK, so for De Gea, a 18 year old, at the time to come in and take his place (when Asenjo was injured) and retain it when the latter returned, says something.
Those interested in the Glazer shares sale should take a look at the following.
Has a couple of new leads in the story.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8705519/Manchester-United-supporters-hope-for-beginning-of-the-end-as-Glazers-prepare-to-relinquish-sole-ownership.html
I pick up talk shit morning show some daft cunt saying city are playing the same style of football as Barca and look better than barca,Utd and fans are worried
King Eric – I signed up to the cafe, and there was a topic and he said what the ginger minge said
http://www.redcafe.net/f17/adrian-durham-talksport-337673/
@ROHANalwaysRED
You said that all that u have been hearing today was about aguero. Last week when you were hearing about cleverley it was fine! I love united but sometimes our fans make me sick. It’s logical that aguero is getting all the praise since it was his first game and showed some very promsing things (turned the game upside down when he came on)
Absolutely agree. Perfect! May everyone shut the fuck up and listen to you Scot! Looking beyond the goalies, Vidic and Evra was horrible their first games as well. But now? De Gea will be the same. Just shut the fuck up, and get behind him!
Arsenal out of CL as they will have no chance in the return leg and they were really poor tonight. Thought I was watching their junior side to be honest.
No real news on Vidic is bad news as that usually means a long time out. Plus point is that the lads know who will be out and can plan ahead for it. We will play Spurs and Arsenal at home after they both come from midweek games in Europe and we need all the points.
i am 150% sure de gea is gonna b a LEGEND……..but just for asking sakes y didnt we go for steklenberg…….he would have been slightly better…..but in sir alex faith we have……GO DE GEA.
slim – shitty are not even better than united, no way is shitty better than barca. The boss knows how to beat shitty on a regular basis , heck look at the past few seasons since 2008/09 season
2008/09 season
shitty 0 1 united
united 2 0 shitty
2009/10 season
united 4 3 shitty
shitty 2 1 united
united 3 1 shitty
shitty 0 1 united
2010/11 season
shitty 0 0 united
united 2 1 shitty
shitty 1 0 united
2011/12 season
shitty 2 3 united
10 games
united wins 7
shitty wins 2
1 draw
Sign Vorm from Swansea what a keeper!
Lend your support to @TeamDavidDeGea And lets make sure that his name is sung from start to finish on Monday. His confidence can only go sky high with 75,000 showing their support. And we can stick two fingers up at the ABU press at the same time …….. altogether
David, Van de Gea
David, David Van de Gea ………
King Eric – I’m very well, thanks! Dubai must be incredible, and the buildings they have seem impossible to construct. I’ve seen some footage of that tallest building, and having studied Civils and worked extensively on concrete structures in refineries I find it difficult to accept that it actually exists! I’ll take your word for it that it’s not an elaborate con!
With regard to parryhate’s ridiculous attack, and the rebuttal thereof, truth will out. He would do well to remember that in future. I stepped in because he challenged you to search the archives knowing that you are on a cell phone and therefore not equipped to complete the task.
@fergie is the boss
Why didnt u include the 2007/2008 season?
FletchTHEMAN – Sir Bobby is a wonderful man. Did you also read the short interview I linked at 20:33? He is so supportive of Sir Alex, all the players, the Club, and in fact football in general.
@TeamDavidDeGea 2000 followers in 24 hours. Come on guys lets get that number up and show the ABU’s that we support our players!
Is there a way to word search the ROM archives?
FletchTHEMAN – I use google. I’m not sure how else it could be done, other than using any of the other search engines. If you find a better way, please let me know!
UnitedThoughts1 – Is that @TeamDavidDeGea on twitter?
I’ve never used twitter or facebook, they don’t interest me at all.
Smartalex Cheers, DONE! Works a treat. Now, can we move on and get civil on this site! I don’t even understand what you lads are arguing about. But I go away and come back and it is still on……
Hope this contributes to peace keeping, but I kind of doubt it…… ;(
MAY 5, 2010 AT 13:39
parryheid says:
For me I would leave Buffoon for others to squabble over and nab Gordon from Sunderland before The arsenal make the move for him.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/foster-its-downhill-after-united/
smartalex, Yes I did catch your link, great read. Reposted for those who don’t want to scroll.
http://7cantonas.com/2011/08/exclusive-sir-bobby-charlton-interview/
Although I first went to it thinking it was by Yorkie, as in Dwight York! That would have been something.
Still a very good read.
Cheers.
smartalex — yeah @TeamDavidDeGea is on Twitter. Fans trying to let the journalists know that we are behind De Gea
Fuck ABU’s, Fuck anyone who says DG is below par, Fuck City.
DG made a couple of very good saves – he also took a few real cheap shots from their forwards which the ref did fuck all about – I do not think he was at fault totally for the goal – someone was MIA in the covering department which allowed the WBA player to get the shot away.
Goals scored or goals conceded are rarely down to one player but a combination of a team effort .
WE WON _ 3 POINTS – THANKS
UNITED IS ONE TEAM _ LIKE IT OR PISS OFF
UNITED 20/4/12 – 2012
UnitedThoughts1 – Good luck! A great idea, every bit helps.
Just caught this one
http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/08/lets-hear-it-for-the-boy/the-sun-removes-bullsht-cleverley-article?
Cop the state of this one – would not throw one into this piece with a scousers dick
UNITED 20/4/12 – 2012
For those that didn’t see this a month ago from the States. It’s even worth watching again.
Inside Edge Train with Manchester United – 3 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Joay4NVZeyY
Just reading through some of the comment here, I cant help but wonder whether this is truly the same website I have been following for the past 3 years now. Whilst the quality of the articles has remained relatively consistent, I cant help but question some of the people who post on this site. Make no mistake, there are some very good comments made by people like MG,Balaji, brett1985 (Who I personally disagree with), baldrick, RedDevil4Lyfe and many more.
BUT there are far too many people who constantly decide to go off topic, making me question whether this is actually a football blog or not. Why the fuck are so many people so fascinated with what this person ‘Parryheid’ says. He has a different view, one which I also strongly disagree with- but digging up old threads in which he said things etc, is ridiculously sad to be honest. Then demanding an apology? For fucks sake, get over yourselves. Why is everyone getting emotional? This is supposed to be a platform for united fans to have intelligent discussions. AND Whilst I usually enjoy comments made by regulars like King Eric and Smartalex, I do think you guys are taking THIS far too seriously.
You disagree with the fucker? Then either ignore him OR try to reason with him.
Remember this is a football blog.
The truth – Fair enough buddy! It stemmed from the comment at 14:49.
I expect it’s all over now.
Nasri -.leaving Arsenal BITTER!
Well, he’s in the right state of mind then.
Yes smartalex and King Eric start picking up your game lads,truth is you’ve been letting it slide for a while now,less tangents stay on message
400+ comments down I doubt anyone cares to read my view but here goes.
Some fans are fickle, others mistake column inches for importance. Me I can’t see why we let the journos set our conversations for us. But they do. Shit, guys – the media gets a wedge of the fans dissing De Gea, then gets another wedge dissing the first wedge. We’re falling for the same damn troll.
If SAF thinks DG is up to it he’ll play him. Hopefully Vidic and Rio can teach Jones and Smalling how to protect the goalie from the schoolyard bully bulshit they left De Gea to cope with last week.
We will probably have to score more goals until the guy settles but let’s face it, we have the players to do that haven’t we!
Yeah wayne, pre-season is over! We should all be fit, strong and ready to drive in a relatively straight line towards the 20th title, veering off path only to run over the odd bitter or dipper that strays onto our RoMan road! Keep an eye on us, my friend, we may need the odd elbow in the ribs to keep us awake on the occasional longer stretch between motel matchbooks.
@parryheid – Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Great comments, Tonka. Thanks for posting!
Tonka Norris – Your intelligent views are always articulately presented, relevant, informative and interesting. Please contribute knowing that your comments are read, and appreciated.
Giggsy’s Lawyer – Personally speaking under discussion of extra absolutes, discreetly understanding in typical non-events are least taken to be. Perpetuate incomplete balderdash, cryogenically?
@smartalex hasn’t been many trolls coming on lately think they are getting blocked.Few weeks ago i was stoned tried to come on as Gary Busey looking for a paint shop and ended up on rom by mistake,did a whole piece thought it was funny didn’t even get past moderation.
Every since De Gea signed there has been a media agenda.
1. Started off with commenting on his age and was SAF sure putting so much trust in a 20 yr old Goalie whjen everyone knows Goalie mature much later than outfield players.
2. Then it was could De Gea cope coming to a different league, the physical nature of the EPL.
3, Doesn’t speak English – Oh how will he commuinicate with his defenders?
4. Then t6he two soft goal he let in against man city and west Brom. How poor he was. etc. Not a mention of England Finest – Hart and Foster. Foster was flapping at crosses all day long De Gea only tweice and both times he had been fouled
The British media every season have a agenda to stop United from winning. Cast your minds back to last season and all that shite about Rooney at Wigan, about Roubles Atkinson and then when the FA warned SAf for saying Webb was a good ref. Sit back guys and wait for their usual shit
Do Not fall for their shite get behind De Gea cause I believe that De Gea will be remebered as one of the greatest goalkeepers ever when his playing careers is over in 15 – 20 years. The kid is that good.
@smartalex – http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/has-anyone-really-been-far-even-as-decided-to-use-even-go-want-to-do-look-more-like#.TksU4WFKjTo
i have this great feeling that WS is gonna come in the last week of the transfer season……..plus saw a lotta phil jones on youtube today…awesome lad…..should be a rugby player…lol…..opposition watchout…n now he is my macbook pro wallpaper……:D
Gotta admit i never have utd players as my wallpaper,normally some random hottie,the net is a wonderful place one click different girlfriend.lol.MG have respect mate never used Hayley
It is obvious De Gea has been thrust in to the deep end and is having some difficulty in particular with the weekness we knew he had – shots from distance – however, that can be worked on in training, its about positioning the feet and body and also having the physique and strength to muscle players out when crosses come in. No question, he needs to work on watching the stitching in the ball and keeping switched on and his positioning right for 90 mins.
What can’t be taught, easily if at all are reflex saves, a keen eyes, quick distribution which releases the attack, technical kicking skills – in this department I have seen enough of De Gea to tick all boxes, he also throws the ball well and tends to hold it firmly.
Watching him back on his errors, I think when the play is at distance his feet can sometimes be too planted and he is not always in the best position to follow the play, he also seems to freeze a bit when he is watching the ball come in at distance and with a bit of height, which I think is pyschological as his relfex saves are great. He needs to practice, feet, eyes and positioning and that will come.
That said, I do feel Lindegrad has earned his chance, it may also do De Gea some good to work on these skills and bulk up more without playing every game. If he is out next game, people will talk that he is on the bench, but if he is in every other game people will soon shuy up. He needs time to adjust and learn, he is not the finished article.
However, I have no problem with people saying he made an error. this is where you see what players are made of. United players take such criticism, put their heads down and say, screw it, I will improve and prove them wrong – I hope he reacts exactly that way. A goalkeeper like Foster whose mental confidence was shakey is problem, he was also supposed to be VDS’s successor. I hope and it seems, De Gea is made of sterner stuff, the criticism is fine, he does have a problem, it is an issue, teams will try to exploit that, it will affect defenders, he needs to take it and like Unted players before him, use it as a platform to become truly great. Respect is earned at United and he is at the Club that does it the hard way. How he reacts to this will say a lot about him.
@NBI Red Onion great post mate
@Giggsy’s Lawyer – Thanks for that link, I hadn’t seen that before. Classic! I thought you’d made it up as a laugh or an ice-breaker, so thought I’d submit a little gobbledygook myself.
wayne, I’ve noticed that since StR commented on the blog a few weeks back that the trolls seem to have been kept under the bridge. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or not, but it’s appreciated anyway.
On the wallpaper topic, I always keep my screens 100% black. No wallpapers, backgrounds, screen-savers or whatever. At most I’ll have a couple of icons as shortcuts to my current projects, and be sure to remove them as soon as possible. My mind is cluttered enough without adding further distractions! As you say, with the net there’s easy and quick access to any thought or desire.
@ wayne – thanks mate.
Parryheid – What the fuck do you do for a living? Unless you manage United, shut the fuck up and quit acting like you know better than a man who has won the league 12 times. The boy De Gea has obvious quality. Let him fucking bed in for fuck’s sake. Fergie has been preparing to replace VDS for years, don’t you think he knows what he sees? This wasn’t a hasty decision. And one more thing, we beat Shitty and picked up 3 points on the road with him between the sticks, what the fuck is the problem? If we dropped points then you can do what most fair weather fan’s do best, piss and moan. Until then, shut the fuck up and be happy with the 3 points!
Smartalex – I’m fucking amazed that you were able to do that. I hope I never piss you off haha.
King Eric – don’t have sex in public mate, you might not leave Dubai with any skin on your back:)
PS – Unless Bernstein joins UEFA, City could be fucked. Would love to see them declared in violation of FFP. Then again, those sheikhs will bribe their way out of trouble. That whore Blatter would join Al Queda if the price was right.
If you go back and look at the 2 bad goals:
1. Vidic didn’t close on the shooter or attempt to get in his line. Dzeko had a wide open space to shoot with no one even near the path the ball took. In fact, you can see Vidic leaning over, watching the ball go past. No help from the defender.
2. Vidic again did not close the space off. Granted he probably had to keep the middle plugged and keep his place in the line of the back 4. Again, you can see him leaning over, watching the ball go past. Admittedly, de Gea was flat footed and paid for it.
Ok so out of those 2 goals, he’s .500. Give him time he’ll come good for Utd.
playing for the biggest club in the world is heavy preassure for de gea although he has lots experienced with atletico and national team. man utd fans need to support him. i believe, if he can beat himself and handle the pressure he will become one of man utd legend goalkeeper.
Morning y’all.
A ‘Cedars’ clique? And there’s a test to get in? And de Gea has joined Gibson, Carrick and Evans at Scapegoats United?
Darn, I really should have been around.
I was just looking at the teamsheet in the skysports website and realised that Pogba and Morrison have been given squad numbers! Did they change Macheda’s squad number from 27 -> 41 ?
There’s a new team for youth + talent this season and that team is not Arsenal………….
the goalkeeping position is not a place where u should take a gamble on “youth” and “potential”.. out on the pitch yeah sure why not u got 10 others to pick up your slack. but in between the posts, youre on your own when u blunder and let one in. and de gea, sadly, has already done two.
wazzaroo10 – because shitty did not get their money until the 2008/09 season
Fuck me lets not all get sensitive and get on the defensive, lets sum it up very simply!
De Gea is quality and SAF has watched him over 18 months, he also brought in Lindergaard as he the pig is useless for back up.
Da Gea signs and lets be honest looked nervous at City and had a howler at West Brom! That said he is a young lad and probaly feels the world is watching him. Lets not go over the top on the criticism but lets also not go mad at fans saying he had a howler.
Played two won two roll on the Yids cant wait!
I call a goal being let in a blunder only when it’s well within the GK’s grasp and he lets it go in in whatever way he suddenly felt like. Like Taibi. Like VDS’s loose fingers on both hands in that one incident. Or Schmeichel when he chose to volley the ball against some QPR player that got blocked into the goal when he could’ve cleared it to safety. Those are blunders.
I prefer to look at the 2 goals De Gea let in as something that he can improve on. It’s not like De Gea chose to trap the ball with his feet, or smother the shot with a single hand. He’s 20. Not 30. He’ll need more experience to not get deceived by the speed/swerve of shots. He’ll get the necessary training to make sure he gets down faster. He’ll get the necessary bulking up so that his body weight increases and he falls down faster. In time to come, in just 1 – 2 years, he’ll be one heck of a immense goalkeeper for us. And with some luck, he’ll be in between the sticks for the next 15. Worthy investment if you ask me.
Any player who has donned the United jersey for less than 2 years ought to be automatically immune to criticisms from supporters. We didn’t sign robots who could be fixed with a firmware flash. Or an upgrade by plugging some firewire/esata/USB3/your-fave-PnP-interface device.
Did you learn how to use a fork and spoon without clattering 1 month after you were born? Or knew algebra the moment you could remember numbers?
Seriously.
The non Erstwhile Associate talks to himself,Hm lots people think me a fool not to agree with them wonder who will be wrong.Seem’s my time memory was even earlier than I thought so have to trawl a lot more threads many thousands more so longer to debunk than imagined.Bet some thought I wouldn’t maybe even hoped so.First thing I intend to correct is the deliberately missing context in all the posts,see if they hold water I maintain they don’t I will probably only manage to November 2010 as I’m guessing 15,000 + but hey ho
team DavidDegea is s good idea show the lad support throughout the 90
Stop babbling parrysnide. I am still awaiting an explanation as to why you called me a “lying cunt”. You cant explain can you? Instead you choose to link random words together to make nonsensical sentences. I stated you wanted Gordon. The links smartalex provided proves that. Therefore pal how am I a liar?
@King Eric
Dubai hey cant be bad, get them hols in now mate before your little one arrives! We are off to Greece the day after Arsenal for two weeks 1st time away with the baby so should be fun!
@King Eric
Hi mate. Just enjoy your time in Dubai and forget about all the nonsense. It’s not worth it. Insults only matter depending on who they come from.
@giggs12gerrard0
Greece awaits. Hopefully it will still be warm.
To the tune of ‘Rivers of Babylon’
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Why does parryheid babble on?
When will he pipe down?
And there he wept when he remembers Gordon.
Oh stop the wicked, parry him away to captivity.
Required from us research
Now can he sing King Eric’s song in a strange land?
So let the words of our mouth
And the meditations of our hearts
Be acceptable in RoM’s sight
Pa-arryheid.
Why does parryheid babble on?
When will he pipe down?
And there he wept when he remembers Gordon.
Parryheid babbling again,do not worry all in good time pinocchio first response has arrived up to Nov 17 contain yourselves from answering till part two arrives which will be a bit time yet whole load of posts to get through and the clint guy not forgot you dont worry about ducking I wont miss.
April 18 Not found that post but fear not if it’s their it will be responded too.
May. Forster it’s all down hill after united thread 27 posters. talk of replacing Forster.Names suggested Kasper Schmeichel,Hart,Gordon Buffon number named Gordon I to preferred gordon.I bchilds did not.
Gripe doesn’t hold water,nothing to see here.
Nov 14 First Valencia then Henderson thread 227 posters.Bruce says SAF asked to keep him informed my post he should inform him about Gordon.No controversy nothing to see here.Again doesn’t hold water.I don’t think very much of Henderson, good enough reason for yuh.
Nov 17.Fergie changes his mind on Quatar thread.162 posts.Aig reports a rumour in the Times with regard to De Gea me a surprise don’t want him prefer Gordon Want a reason 19 no EPL experience still applies today.Consistent eh.I think it’s bad in the extreme United put faith in 3 Rookie goalies,don’t agree ? Tough.)Again doesn’t hold water.Nothing to see here.
Nov 18 This is how it is to be City X1 thread turned into names being bandied about.Ale somebody Dutch.Degea,Kuskack Lindegard.I prefer Gordon at least as third choice goalie.Again doesn’t hold water.Nothing to see here.
Rest will be following once I get to them and I wont respond until the whole so don’t waste your time trying to deflect me’.Giruy my friends. I didn’t come up the Clyde on a water biscuit.
@parryheid,bottomline you were banging on about signing Gordon,that’s all King Eric said,you called him a liar which wasn’t true so just apologize and move on.
Your posts look like ramblings of a mad man
Costas giggs12 and wayne. Cheers lads. Have a great holiday Giggs12.
Smartalex. Quality mate.
wayne said:
“I pick up talk shit morning show some daft cunt saying city are playing the same style of football as Barca and look better than barca,Utd and fans are worried.”
Yes,it’s laughable. It’s not just talk shite radio either. The UK media is replete with tossers talking or writing bollocks. Apparently beating Swansea is the new benchmark of footballing greatness…
If I was given a pound for every time I’ve heard someone say, they’re a long term reader of the RoM, I’d be a wealthy man. Not a dig at the situation, but it’s up to the moderator to stop people going off topic.
The reason Scott doesn’t do it now, as opposed to a few years ago, is because you will go off topic. If Scott was to ban anyone for going off in a different tangent, there wouldn’t be many too many posters left!
If I was pounded every time I heard of a long time reader being forced to post for the first time by rambling regulars’ ribald remarks I’d have an arse you could drive a RoMbus through.
He will come back stronger in the coming games. yes hes let in a couple of “soft” goals…but hes 20 bla bla and so on, we all know. But I would like to comment on is this lad’s kicking, throwing and distribution as a whole. Awesome. If you focus on that enough.. wow, its quite scarey. He looks so composed and distributes like a seasoned pro for one so young.
With all due respect to scrabble and foster, hes kicking is wayy better. Think about it (them). (but the funny thing is that foster’s kicking seems to have improved alot since the days he kept goal for us)
-must be the pressure of being a Utd keeper)
check out De Dea’s goal kicks. its like he doesn’t need to put much behind them to get the distance, and with accuracy too. Imagine. Hes only gona improve and get better in all aspects. Of course hes gona work on crosses etc. What i noticed is, after the shield game against citeh, he seems a tad too eager to come out to collect those crosses. Thats one thing he would very much be exposed to in the BPL. And I trust that hes judgement will get better once the understanding and communication between him and the back four stengthens.
Make no mistake about it. He is going to commit more errors and let in a couple more “soft” goals this season. Maybe even cost us a game or 2. But the thing to observe is how this young lad bouce back from these error with the increased pressure on him. From what I’ve seen from him so far, I am quietly confident this guy is able to come back up strongly whenever the chips are down. After all, isn’t this what Man Utd is about?
cheers,
Kenn
clint-Iamyourpapil’
First of let me say you have xxxxxxx cheek and I really shouldn’t give you the time of day and if you hope to convert my view you will fail.For starters I doubt your ability or willingness to understand anybody with a different point in case you fall foul of your Erstwhile Associate in otherwords not your own man,I doubt you will even finish reading this reply.
I am a United Supporter. (why )
I most certainly do.
No to part one.his backroom staff ie Steele yes want to know why? he has been here a while did nothing to improve Forster or Thomaz has not brought anybody through who is likely to be a top rate Goalie at United,in fact for his age can you tell me one he has anywhere and I want an answer YOUR ANSWER.
Not to my knowledge but there are few players I have not criticised during games over the season.the exceptions twins VIDIC Smalling Valencia Carrick Jones Young Hernandez Owen.Have You?
Not that they have signed a goalie but that it is going to be a lot of years he is promising no good to United.
Price tag does not bother me we paid top dollar for what is work in progress for a long time
Erstwhile, my ass!
Shit I pressed the wrong thing
and I know we were not getting Neur ahead of Bayern.Who was your choice?
He is undecisive cowers behind the defence does not come for the ball and I think he will be trampled all over in the coming weeks maybe even this week if that Darren guy who followed through on Gordon and broke his arm.But thereagain no as he is unlikely to be on the floor going for a ball.We wont like that answer will we?do you disagree if so explain why to me I;m all ears
for the reasons above.The only player I thought over the last 2 years at finishing time out of the players you list is Rio and I still think that may be the case,could be wrong.
I have answered the questions above lets see your mettle now.
Another thing you want me to supply you with posts I made for you to check up on me maybe to make yourself the big I am Might I suggest you get your Erstwhile Associate the popularity bandwagon jumper to get them I’m sure he will be delighted. Giruy.work it out.
I think wed all agree his physique is a problem, i know hes been bought for the future, but hes in the team now, and Id be very sceptical about playing him in certain away games where teams will use physical tactics to their advantage. But def agree give him time and hel be a great signing.
Wayne I disagree but tell me are you saying I have no right or entitlement to a view you or others dont agree with,perhaps since you are so good at questioning you might explain clearly why I am wrong regarding the goalie without going of on a tangent.Go on surprise me do it without swearing that would be a surprise.
I’m guessing English isn’t your first language, Parryheid?
Also, what is a ‘parryheid’? Just wondering…
Not liking it Eh Flash maybe.
erm…
A parryheid is a water biscuit.
Crackers?
My erstwhile acolytes.
Quackers!
I’m partial to a nice Hovis biscuit myself
Jammie dodgers!
Giggsy’sLawyer
What gives you that impression are you dislecsic ? Or do you keep company with the two idiots above or are they waiting to deal out your punishment as Erstwhile Associates you were warned Don’t chat with parryheid any way if you were a tiddleywink or the shortened version a mink you wouldn’t need to ask but as your not I cant tell you sorry.But try some time on the cockadoodle doo which is something like the rock and roll then your getting there.
Yep that Acolytes was a belter eh still fuckin stinging are yous hanging about to deter guys or is it just a flash by.
Did you hear about the dyslexic paranoid? He always thought he was following someone.
My dyslexic buddy went to a toga party dressed as a goat. I kid you not.
Seems like parry has another period. Couldn’t understand most of the posts though. Anyone here fluent in mad babbling?
Another dyslexic buddy has Tourette’s syndrome.
He goes around yelling “This! This! This!”
And to think I offered turkey, stuffed by the way just like they make them during the holidays
Hey no show without Punch back for some more woohoo.
No wait, I think I used the turkey as an example for something… No turkey was offered, cannot quite remember… I am sure turkey was involved some how though. Not sure if it was stuffed to be honest
Nasri close to city move.
A moment of silence for water biscuit.
Do you three tit’s think you’ve got what it takes with the rest of your Erstwhile associates dream on yez headed for the hills back in January now it’s clear why you’s were so keen to do someones dirty work trying to prevent what’s coming dozy sods others will spot the reforming of the Acolytes.
If things don’t pan out as you hope be a bit of a sickener for yuh wont it get in United
No Nasri, is stinging for you.
Nasri to City? How can that be? Flash Gordon’s bitch said he’d sign for us.
Flash! ah-ahh!
Savior of the Universe!
Flash! ah-ahh!
He’ll save everyone of us!
Flash! ah-ahh!
He’s a miracle!
Flash! ah-ahh!
King of the impossible!
Flash Gordon’s bitch? Sort of has a nice ring to it
@parryheid: Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?
The ring of fire!
ParryHeid what are you going on about no one said you couldn’t have a opinion,that’s not what this is about.you called King Eric a liar which isn’t true,you were banging on about signing Gordon over and over,if you’re denying that you’re the lying cunt.
Another thing before you have a dig about my swearing read your own posts you hypocritical twat.
I pointed out you are wrong everyone can see that,you want to take personal shots you go ahead fuckhead,I know I swear a lot but its nothing to do with you dickhead,so go fuck yourself shit for brains
We all say fuck. It’s generally acceptable now.
Calling someone “A Lying Cunt’ as parryheid did is not acceptable.
I think Gordon Bleu cooked his own goose till it was a goal tender.
@wayne – I’d just like to say that this was brilliant – “I know I swear a lot but its nothing to do with you dickhead,so go fuck yourself shit for brains” LOL
parryheid
Why not apologise to King Eric as you were wrong. He will forgive you. We all will.
Are you really John Wayne?
Yes pilgrim.
dream on and I might add do you dopes think I bully. easily context girls be amusing next time yous squeal about it and you will.World of difference favouring this over that and starting threads on an issue but do yous really think you will bend me?
Let me say this in parryheid language:
Cunt are you. Off fuck.
I wouldn’t bend your biscuit. No sir, not me.
Fuck the what here is on going?
wayne
You asked me a question I asked one back where’s the answer having difficulty are we.
@Costas lol pretty close mate my dad was a huge John Wayne fan my intials are WJB
@Giggsy’s Lawyer thanks mate do my best to entertain
@Parryheid I never asked you a question mate,I stated a fact,you’re wrong and out of order calling King Eric a lying cunt he was telling the truth.
Personally don’t give a fuck if you think Gordon is good enough for utd or not.
I thought Men In Black was fiction,what planet are you from mate.I know I’m no Astronaut but fuck me I need a Parryheid dictionary.
Parryheid’s taken Master Yoda’s teachings a bit too literally, I think.
The vast number of users of this site are pretty clever and capable of reasoned thought,however a small pretty thick number operate as a gang intent on cowing the reasoned into submission a goodly number are on this page right now sad really but the majority will stumble along regardless the intimidation.
@wayne
It must be in the name then, hehe.
@Balaji
wayne – Men in Black was fiction??? Fuck my life, here I was thinking it was real…. I could swear that the old lady next door is an alien
Look, when it comes down to it, and insults aside, all this started because King Eric said that parryheid wanted Gordon at United. And everyone that’s commented on this issue agreed. Including me. That’s not a “clique ganging up on a helpless poor poster”. That’s multiple people agreeing about what they read with their own eyes. Smartalex went as far as to provide proof. Why’s KE a lying cunt then? That was uncalled for and an apology is in order. End of subject for me.
Celine Dion is an alien.
Nah, it’s just her music that alienates people.
Willie – She still ‘seduces’ me though! lol
French Canadians are all aliens
@Cedars beginning to think its based on fact mate
I’m on the top of the world. Looking down on creation and the only explanation I can find!
Is that, Cedars is losing his mind and I can’t comprehend.
That CedarsDevil likes Celine Dion!
Poor Parryheid being picked on by the Rom bullies,deflect it as much as you want,as Costas pointed out only lying cunt on here is you,simple as that
Never mind a water biscuit, water on the brain.
Willie – Not much to add except replacing the word ‘losing’ with ‘lost, long ago’
the british press is the worst press on the history of the world. EVER. nazi germany is not even close. this young talent has played only ONE lge game. let me repeat ONE FUCKING LGE GAME and he ia getting all this slack? smh. the united fans who even dared to criticisw that boy are a disgrace to this club. its not rocket science. everyone knows this lad is a goalkeepung monster for his age and he DEFINITELY WILL come good.
Parryheid. Still no apology for calling me a lying cunt. Thought you may be a bigger man than that. You are coming over as a ten year old. Nobody genuinely has a fucking clue what you are on about. Anyway fuck the apology. Just answer my question please. Why am I lying cunt? I stated you wanted gordon. The evidence backs this up. FACT. Stop going off on irrelevant tangents. You are making yourself look very silly. I expected better from you as I have always considered you in the most part to be a good poster.
HE NEEDS A CHANCE, CRITICS FORGET THAT HE IS ONLY 21. GIVE HIM TIME HE WILL COME GOOD
@King Eric, it’s probably that time of the month for him. Or her. Or maybe just got jilted. Or saw his mates get hooked up but he got rejected by that woman who turned down Cleverley too.
Surely those minutes typing out replies to him can be better spent. Like taking a dump. Even that is a better activity to spend time on.
Actually am a big fan of man utd from mauritius. As from my piont of view the lad played only 2 games and 3 pre season matches. Its not quite easy to conclude on 2 matches, we must give him some tym. I fink he will be a great signing for man utd and its just a matter of tym. cheers n let go for the 20 title
YorYor. Ha. Nice one mate.
Well some of us are not criticizing for nothing as well, for the price he was paid for, he should at least not let in soft goals like the ones he conceded against the bitters then west brom, 2 very avoidable goals IMHO. However, if he is trained properly and also made to learn to communicate efficiently, am sure in 1 month at most we’ll see his best, and why not try get VDS in the coaching team, could share his experience with the lad as well. If we do not show him his weak points now, opposition teams will definitely make them their strengths in the future and pile more pressure on him and the whole team as well
Far as I recall, De Gea didn’t set his own transfer price.
Does it mean Phil Jones also be getting every single tackle, winning every header?
Anderson should be making every pass successful and provide assists every other X minutes?
Rooney should be banging the goals in left right centre even if the delivery is poor, or scoring every other half chance since half+half = 1?
And Torres needs to jump off London Bridge?
Anyway, VDS said he needed a break from football, to spend time with his family. There’s no way he doesn’t deserve that. If you were made to eat, think, dream, watch bread every day and every meal, after 10 years even grass may taste better. Leave the big man alone, I’m sure the club is keeping tabs and setting reminders if VDS has indicated a willingness to consider before to left.
Imo there has to be a bigger tolerance for any young player that joins United from another league. Looking at Ando and Nani for example, even though they had a good first season, there were times ater that when you wondered if the money we paid for them (close to De Gea money) was justified. DDG’s at an even more unenviable spot because every mistake he makes is highlighted because he’s a goalie.
Anyway, I don’t believe the Edwin idea is a bad one. It’s what I was hoping to happen, but like YorYor said, if anyoe deserved some time off, it was him. So since Fergie wants David to work through his adaptation problems on the pitch, then that means we will have to weather the storm until then. It could be a bumpy road the next couple of months.
Because he had a high transfer price he shouldnt let in soft goals? What a load of fucking shit. The ladyboy cost 50 million but cannot buy a goal. Does every top striker who cost money NEVER miss a sitter? Some perspective please. The impatience of some fans is fucking criminal.
It’s the first game of the season…. a new team…..a restructured team…..new faces…..new tactics….
For the De Gea, it’s a new country, new start, there’s a language barrier but the lad has passion, he has a heart and he wants to be here…..don’t forget he’s only in his early 20′s…..before we trash him let’s give him the benefit of the doubt…..i have no doubt he WILL be a force and we’ll see that next game and with every coming game…
I have faith…..WE bought him for a reason, let the lad show us what he’s worth.
Head up DG, UNITED WE STAND BESIDE YOU!!!!!
Took the time to read up on DDG while the pre season was on in America . Its an impressive CV . Then i saw a save he made when we played Barca over there it was world class yet little or no mention of it afterwards ? Work in progress is very apt we have a special and unique talent in our ranks .
i think de gea is going 2 be da best in da world like var da sar!!!!!!!!!!!! i think young will be great very good goal at da weekend and i think bring in bero cause welback was not great!!!!!!!!! anyone agree
HE NEEDS A CHANCE, CRITICS FORGET THAT HE IS ONLY 21. GIVE HIM TIME HE WILL COME GOOD
couldnt agree more, De Gea needs our support.
Stop dissing him, he needs time and he’s only 19 yrs old.
been away 4 a couple of weeks gents technical issue quelle suprise DDG getting pelters expect every shite pundit 2 wank it dry that the boy is a libailty blah blah wheel me out of retirement 2 spout bollocks
get behind the boy if were saying this in 20 matches fair enough not 2