Cristiano Ronaldo has split the opinions of Manchester United fans for some time. For United fans who follow England, they weren’t best pleased following the World Cup 2006 incident with Wayne Rooney. Then there were the dives and the temper tantrums. Then there was his behaviour last summer. Then there was his lack of effort last season.
To balance it out though, he’s won three league titles with us, he scored in the winning finals for United in the European Cup, FA Cup and League Cup. He enjoyed an absolutely fabulous season when he scored 42 goals in 47 games and has developed from a teenage lad in to the best player in the World.
He spent six years with the club but is only 24-years-old as he leaves us for a World breaking fee of £80 million. So, all in all, do you think Ronaldo is a United legend?
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yes
look at everything he’s done
how he went from “one trick pony” to world player of the year here
he scored 42 goals in 1 season
won everything as well as scoring in every final apart from the european cup we didnt score in but scored the only open play gaol the year before
he is one of uniteds greats
I think his going is still a bit raw with fans. Maybe in a few years people will look back and consider him a legend.
A footballing legend maybe, but not a United one, he has been a wonderful player but he has disrespected the club, manager and fans with his antics over the past year or so, thanks for the goals and a great player but not a great man thats how we judge our legends, Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Cantona, Best, Law Charlton and Robson he will never be.
Not for me,
one of the best players we have had at the club but LEGENDS never dream of playing for another club but ours.
More like saying Tevez the traitor is legend!
Surely if we are talking great ‘men’, then George Best shouldn’t be in the list? Anyone who drinks away a talent like his so prematurely is no legend in my books. Footballing legend for sure, but on par with Charlton, Robson, Cantona etc no way. Same goes for Ronaldo. In terms of football, he’s been arguably the best ever. Unfortunately, his personality lets him down. Though I very much doubt he’d have gone on to be the player he is without it.
No. If you look at our legends they all bonded with the club and loved United in a way that Ronnie didn’t seem to. If he’d stayed a bit longer and shown more respect for United — he even admits his public flirting with Madrid was piss poor form — then maybe.
I don’t know who decides who is an “official” legend but in my book he isn’t and never will be….Unless he flops at Madrid and we buy him back and he blossoms again.
If he starts knocking us out of the CL with the white cunts then expect his stock to fall further in my house!!!
No.
Stephen
George best walked out on united twice
lost his love of football and united and fell in love withthe night life when he was still playing football for united
he got suspended
had sex with a women at half time
so id say people back then where pissed at him
but george best is a legend a hero and an icon at united
i named my daughter after him
because he did it on the field like no other during his time at united
Ronaldo is a legend
No, To much of a cry baby.
no.he felt like hes bigger than club itself.rooney could be our legend..
NO.Legendary status is put on those that live and die United.He disrespected everything about this club for a few years!He was an important cog in our team,But there’s a few that deserve the Legend tag for doing all the graft to make up for where Ronny lacked!
One great season, two very good seasons and another three when he was clearly learning.
For me legends are made of performance, longevity and loyalty to the shirt. But for the last three years Ronaldo has wanted out of United. He goes down as a great player, but not a United legend.
NO HE IS NOT A LEGEND
he is one of the best football player who played for ManUtd
but he is NOT A MAN UTD LEGEND
for me VIDA is much more LEGEND than Ronaldo
A talent worthy of legends but not a legendary man.
A great player but not a great United player.
The criteria for legends is not solely based on talent; emotional tie with the club and its supporters, humility about one’s place in the club’s traditions, and commitment to the club are other key factors. Ronaldo ticked just one box.
GHTT, I know where you are coming from but he was United through and through, never dreamt of playing for another club he walked out on us simply because he was an alcoholic.
Ronnie is a United legend because of his exploits last season. 42 goals is no mean feat.From being a nobody to the best player in the world, all while playing for United is great. He’s scored some great goals. Sure he used to dive and throw tantrums, but everybody’s got their quirks. For example, Rooney has his fiery temper, which we often tend to ignore (and call it as his passion)
No.
stephen he left cause he lost his love of united
best never taught he was an alcoholic till the start of the 90′s if you read his book
but that guy is a legend
with a well deserved statue outside old trafford
Only time will tell if he is
Maradona was a legend but wasn’t lved by all fans. That argument is therefore lacking.
I don’t follow the national side any more (so that was never a reason to hate in the first place) but other than that it’s a pretty succinct description.
For me, he was a fantastic footballer; perfect physique, naturally gifted and technically superior to any other player in the side(well, perhaps with the exception of Rio and, on their day, either of Berba/Rooney). Unfortunately, he falls short of legendary status after what happened last Summer which should not be acceptable to any sane thinkin’ United fan. Simple as that, really.
Rio’s a good example, actually. After the contract fiasco of ’05, it looked like he’d thrown his chance of legendary status away, but he got his head down and let his football do the talking. Ronaldo, OTOH, seemed more eager to relay his feelings via the media/press conferences (not all of which were clever (see: ‘The fans will love me again as soon as I step on the pitch’ comment)). That, and his footy was mixed for large parts of the season, finally finding some form towards the end. I s’pose we’ll never know if was truly the injury that caused that or whether it was his messed-up head …
I said this Summer would be pivotal in Ronaldo’s United career (and the way we as fans saw him) and so it’s proved. The next question is whether we made him look good or whether he made us look good and I’m looking forward to seeing the answer over the next few seasons.
In summary, great, great player. Not a legend, though.
GHTT, He never thought it mate but he was one, as I say I know what you mean but he never treated the fans like Ronnie did mate, make his intentions known that he wanted to sign for another club, call himself a slave, Bestie when he left never wanted to play for a side that could damage United, Roonie has.
You cannot take away what he did for us, but you cannot say a player who dreams of playing for anther side could be called a United legend.
Benzema is on his way to Real Madrid.
In some time we might look back and consider him a legend, I don’t think people are willing to accept it at this time. He had a successful time at United and improved a lot to say the least!
Legend?!?! you don’t become a legend after one quality season and a couple of good seasons, whilst all the while telling us he wants to leave.
Despite his undoubted quality he was not loved, man u fans backed him on principle but the majority of us must have thought he was consistently a prick with his arrogance, tantrums, greed and play acting.
£80mil for a player who was getting to big for the club, all i can think is good player, but good riddance.
I simply believe we have been used by Benzema’s agent to flush out an offer from Real, he probably has never had any intention of signing for us he has fluttered his eyelashes at Fergie so that we make our interest known in him, which in turn will speed up an offer from Real.
after george best won the european cup
all you had to do was pick up a paper and you could see where his head was
ronaldo said he want to leave
but best got up and left twice
im not trying to take anything away from george best and as i say i loved the guy and named my daughter after him
but think what he did on the field
think what he did off the field
think of the way he was to united after he won the european cup
and think of how people only remember the football
Apparently Benzema was coming to OT but the Virus have offered £10m more to Lyons.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={C7DF7CEC-3BC3-4859-A3FD-FE4AAD215DD8}&redirectorid=news_story&newsid=6635480
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5405532,00.html
we never asked about benzema
rc7 that’s what I’ve heard. Benzema was excited about joining UTD but his agent is obviously a greedy bastard so now he’s going to the mob for more cash. That’s how sky are reporting it anyway.
Anyone for Ruud.
“Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Lyon to sign Karim Benzema, according to the player’s agent. Sky Bet have suspended all betting on Benzema’s move to Madrid.” – Damn it…
@stephen
even Ronaldo stated recently that …he is not going to play for any other premier league club…and he is far better of than that bitch tevez…even tho left…gave the respect…that is deserved to sir alex…..and how come scott forgot to mention that without him we wouldnt have been in the champs league final this season…or the games against villa , spurs , porto , arsenal..where he performed when needed most…how come everyone forget that simply by showing his twatish attitude…like alchohol for best …everyone has some negatives( except a very though…robson,giggs,scholes)…cant help but give a blind eye….
but frankly ….i think we ll get to know…after few years…
Well Bestie was one of our own, and as you can see I am somewhat biased towards him, but he was a product of our youth system which always helps but he never came out and claim he wanted to play for another side, you in my view can never be a legend of a club if you declare the love of another.
@l-swerve-l:One quality season and 2 good ones?!?He scored 89 goals in his last 3 seasons for the club.Those were 3 BRILLIANT seasons.
ancha, that is all well and good but we are United not some tin pot club and our legends should be soley in love with us.
Ronnys a legend no doubt has 4 benzema we waited 2 long same old story.
stephen
you wont find someone more biased towards best than me
im just using him as an example of why i think ronaldo is a legend
agents ruin football
which is fantastic when you see that Scholes giggs nickey butt the both nev’s fletcher and john oshea dont have one
I think you’re right there Stephen, Benzema stated last year he would prefer a move to Madrid, so we could of dodged another ‘I dream of playing for Madrid’ bullet there. Still, I would of liked to see him sign though. We need a big man up front with pace who could read the creative passing of Scholes, Carrick, Rooney and Berbatov, and who can finish.
In a word NO.
Legends do not leave United they hang up their boots.
Beckham – NO
Ronaldo – NO
ERIC CANTONA ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DEFINITELY A TRUE UNITED LEGEND.
RYAN GIGGS ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A DOUBT A UNITED LEGEND.
PAUL SCHOLES UNQUESTIONABLY A UNITED LEGEND.
BRYAN ROBSON INDISPUTABLY A UNITED LEGEND.
They will never die. Always remember the Munich Legends and always thank Sir Matt Busby and Sir Bobby Charlton and Sir Alex Ferguson.
The LEGENDARY KNIGHTS OF THE HIGH COURT OF OLD TRAFFORD IN THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MANCUNIA.
One thing:To all the United “supporters” who are wondering why we’re not able to buy any world class players,it’s because,like Stephen said,”We don’t buy world class players,we make players world class.”
there is no way real madrid need huntelaar
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5409334,00.html
sorry for offtopic, but SkySports says Benzema chose Real, wtf, if it’s true hes a right wanker
GHTT, you are spot on there mate but in Ronnie’s credit he has never hidden his love for Real and think he would have signed regardless of money.
North Stand, Long time no speak mate, I agree if we had got him in 3/4 years he would want to move on, and he is a renowned moddy git also.
i would say no . whats your opinion scott ?
BUt Olympic Lyon suppesedly officially denied it… it’s getting crazy
Lyon is saying its not true
this agent better not be playing united for more money
The most talented player I have seen in a red shirt since best. He will NEVER be replaced, ceratinly not with Valencia! He has been a fixture and fitting for the last 6 years with no one to possibly replace him. I fear for next season, a lean one it may be assumed. The squad is thinning and doesnt have the quality. He was a one man team that could change a game in the blink of an eye. £80m is a snip for someone of his talent, CR7 is irreplaceable.
De jong, Barry, Ireland > Anderson, Fletcher, Carrick……….. Robinho, Tevez, Eto’o > Rooney, Berbatov, Macheda……….. Given > Van Der sar…………. 550 Billion > Debt
Manc’er, you are getting boring now fuck off and put you tea towel on your head, muppet.
Yeah Stephen, been lying low lately alright. Went to Rome without a ticket, couldnt get one over there (not a genuine one anyway), and the less said about that trip the better. Been avoiding football talk since, it was a sour way to end a great season. And this off-season crap would wreck your head. When I have been in here, Im trying to do more reading than writing…
@ROJO RED ROT ROUGE : “Legends do not leave United they hang up their boots” – so you don’t consider Roy Keane a United legend?
Damn those fascists! 35 million Euros is around 30 million pounds, right? I think we should at least match that bid or offer 35 million pounds…
United 11 league titles Shity uh 0.
North Stand, I know the feeling mate, good to have you back pal.
Lyon are saying they’ve recieved a bigger offer than madrids cud it be us?
@Manc’er:Is your name rhyming slang for something else?
Also,Eto’o hasn’t signed for you as of yet.You guys are so small,he rejected 250,000 pounds a week to play for you.
33 years and counting.
@ Manc’er
Go Fcuk a camel wid ur owners..
De jong, Barry, Ireland > Anderson, Fletcher, Carrick……….. Robinho, Tevez, Eto’o > Rooney, Berbatov, Macheda……….. Given > Van Der sar………….
hahahahahahahahahha..
u gotta be kidding!!
I believe Macheda and Welbeck are gonna step up the plate this season so we may not need Benzema after all
No not in my opinion. He will go down as one the best, one of the most skillful but not a ‘legend’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1196773/Cristiano-Ronaldo-kicks-car-window-spotting-teenage-girl-videoing-him.html
Galacticism…
Where are u getting reports that the Benzema and Real agreement is bollocks? All the sites I visit state that the 35 million euros offer from Real has been accepted, nothing about United bidding more or Lyon denying this.
@Smudger:No need to be racist.
Too early to call Rooney a legend. He is destined for it, and should reach that level but right now he still has a lot to prove (and he has said so himself. He’s destined to be a great player, now that Ronaldo has left he has the opportunity to fulfil that destiny).
Ronaldo…legend? Nope, sorry, you would have been lad, but you decided to leave. And you never committed yourself once the club and the manager turned you from a show pony into a world class player. Legend? Nope. World class player. Yes. One of the great talents to ever put on the red shirt .Unquestionably. But legends are more then just footballing ability. Legends inspire people, they have the love of the fans and Ronaldo towards the end of his united career didn’t have that.
Great player, but also a massive prat. I think that’s how he will be remembered.
Nevermind my previous comment, saw this on Skysports.
“12.34 Lyon have received a big-money offer for Karim Benzema but insist there is no agreement with Real Madrid or any other club for the forward. The plot thickens…”
I’m refreshing like a maniac.
Com on united sign the benz.
Not a United legend in my books, but would go down as a United great. If Giggs, considered by most, as a United legend, putting Ronaldo on the same level as him is just insane.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1196784/Real-deal-Lyon-deny-Real-Madrid-beaten-Manchester-United-30m-Karim-Benzema.html?ITO=1490
The bidding war is probably on…
Just like averio68 already said: Only time will tell
Why don’t the Virus buy fuckin Tevez, he thinks he’s a fuckin galactico.
Of course he does, which other player in our history helped us to TWO Champions league finals in a row?
We might not realise it but this period is the most successful in our history. We will appreciate it more when we are not so successful.
At the moment there are 249 complete and utter idiots who think he is not a United legend.
I hope that virus Real win nothing. I hope all that talent does nothing but sell shirts
He was a key player for you in the last 3 years chipping in with valuable goals when all else failed. He has made significant money for Man U both in terms of shirt sales as well as transfer fee. So I think he deserves a legend status simply on the basis of that.
Loyalty in these times is very overrated. 6 years for a player is pretty long – Giggs and Scholes are unique in that regard. Its how you contributed and whether you changed the fortunes of the team. To my mind he did and so he definitely deserves it.
Incidentally, I hate him as a person.
I don’t think you have to retire from United to be a legend or come up through our youth system. It helps but in the end it’s all about the contribution you make while your here.
Ronaldo was our first world player of the year since Best. We were never a one man team but over the last three seasons I’d find it hard to convince myself that we would have won the League without him.
He emerged at a time that Chelski looked that they were going to dominate for the rest of the decade. I give primary credit for this to Fergie but I think when he writes the next installment of his autobiography he’ll acknowledge that Ronaldo was the lynch pin he built our challenge to Chelski around.
Finally, what makes him a legend for me was the 07/08 season and the quality and variety of his 42 goals. I doubt we’ll ever see the like of that again.
VIVA RONALDO but the king is dead, long live the king = ROONEY!
Benzema..
no deal
Manc’er – I told you once, I won’t tell you again……….fuck off you cunt. Keep an eye on the news and see what scraps you will get after stalking the top players and getting rejected.
Kaka – Barry
Aguerro – Santa Cruz
Buffon – Shay Given
Eto? – Owen?
34 years………..fuck all.
mark hughes norman whiteside peter schmecial george best denis law martin buchan bryan robson david beckham steve bruce bobby charlton roy keane billy foulkes just to name a few played on after they left manchester united
legends
willierednut – Gill should call them and offer 40s and tell them Madrid are cunts and not to do business with them. Simple eh!
Macheda is GOD
were are you getting no deal from?
give it a few years lads
let the emotions surrounding Ronaldo mellow down a bit and then we can decide.
After all, when Becks left in 2003, we were not at all pleased. But now, when we look back, he has always been among the legends of Old Trafford.
Beckham? A Legend?! Get out of it!
He was always more interested in his hair and under the thumb of his mrs than playing for United!
Top class poofta!
I think to qualify as a United Legend, you need to be remember for being a United player…
guys like Cantona, Law etc… all had their best years at United, hence they are remembered as United Legends.. it’s like saying Michael Carrick is a Tottenham legend, or Even Tevez a West Ham legend…
I envisage Ronaldo will spend at least the 6 contracted years at the Virus, and he will be at the peak of his carreer as far as age is concerned, and as much as I hate to admit it, I can see Real winning everything with the squad they have put together.
Ronaldo will be a Real Madrid legend, who happened to play for United for a bit…
I wish the lad the best of luck, but lets start talking about United legends, like Rooney and Vidic.
Kings you are deluded and your argument sounds like it came out of the mouth of a 14 yr old pre pube school girl. :0/
Grow a pair of balls and learn to read and state a reasoned argument. FYI, Man U are in trouble this year….not from City (this time) but from Liverpool and Arsenal- both have a squad easily comaparble to Man U, infact I wuld even go as far to say Liverpool have a better one with more talented players.
Your time has run its course and there is a shift in power, Taggart will soon be off and with your depleted squad I fear top 4 may be a pipe dream come the next few years. Times are a changin!
P.S. Why do peole feel the need to make racist remarks about arabs? One things for sure theyre a lot more sucessful that you’ll ever be Kings! Grow a pair of balls and perhaps one day you’ll get laid (prossers not included!).
The project is on and times are changin! Come 3 years the blue side of Manchester will be on top and untouchable!
Having lost your most talented player ever, back to the transfer market for you………£80m won’t cut it!
Well, of course we all are gonna remember him forever, but in my eyes he´ll never goes down as a true legend. Cantona might not have been as skilled as Maradona or Zidane, but it was other part aswell of him that made him the legend he is today. Ronaldo is a wonderful player, but he has disrespected the club two or three times to much, and he will never have the same respect and mystery around him that players such as Cantona and Keane had.
He gave us a shit lot, and i´m sure that he will always be remembered as one of the greatest to play at OT, but he will NEVER be mentioned with the likes of Best, Charlton, Cantona ETC.
Stats wise yes, but taking the bigger overall picture NO!
There’s a limit madrid wont go 2 as well as weve seen with villa lets take em for once .
As a footballer there havent been many better and I really appreciate what he did for us. He won everything personally and with the team. I dont begrudge the lad moving on for a new challenge in a new league, BUT, what I cant get past is the way he took all the attention away from our league and champions league double the other year. To disrespect us all like he did with his bollocks comments about ‘only god knows the future’ and all that shite, on pitch tantrums week in week out last season, that didnt do it for me. If he had come out at the time and said he wants to move on for new challenges then it would of been fine imo. I think his lack of class off the pitch is what is going to stop him being a real Manchester United legend.
http://www.france24.com/en/20090701-french-striker-karim-benzema-poised-join-real-madrid-35-million-euros-lyon
GHTT
Heres why…Im in shock
Fuck madrid
Oi hang on!
“Madrid for a whopping 35 million euros, according to a report by RMC radio also picked up by Spanish sports daily Marca.”
SPANISH
they always jump the bandwagon
Still in the hunt!
Macheda is GOD
lyon have denied them reports
and someone has offered bigger money
relax take a seat and watch this space
gotta hate tiny tears
I know i know
but without ronnie and tevez i feel lost…
I know we have to tell them fuck off now..
but i still miss them
ROJO RED ROT ROUGE Said,July 1st, 2009 @12:22……….
“In a word NO.
Legends do not leave United they hang up their boots.
Beckham – NO
Ronaldo – NO
ERIC CANTONA ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DEFINITELY A TRUE UNITED LEGEND.
RYAN GIGGS ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A DOUBT A UNITED LEGEND.
PAUL SCHOLES UNQUESTIONABLY A UNITED LEGEND.
BRYAN ROBSON INDISPUTABLY A UNITED LEGEND.
They will never die. Always remember the Munich Legends and always thank Sir Matt Busby and Sir Bobby Charlton and Sir Alex Ferguson.
The LEGENDARY KNIGHTS OF THE HIGH COURT OF OLD TRAFFORD IN THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF MANCUNIA”………………..
Perfectly put mate. I would just like to add Roy Keane to that list of recent United Legends. Wayne Rooney is a certainty to be looked on upon as Legend in years to come.
Manc’er this news is for you
14.02 Chelsea are believed to be close to completing deals to sign out-of-contract Middlesbrough goalkeeper Ross Turnbull and Manchester City forward Daniel Sturridge.
see what money can do
it doesnt buy history respect or stability
you need to stop talking all your city are the richest club talk
because we all know that
and start praying your team talk on the pitch
smithy99
why would you add keane
you agreed to him point that Legends do not leave United they hang up their boots.
keane played on after he left
like many legends dont
by agreeing with him that means charlton best and law are not legends
manc’er…
We still have wazza
We still have vida
We still have berba
We still have Rio
We still have Evra
We still got GIGGSY
We still got scholes
We still got the united squad that are capable of retaining a Premier league.
GHTT
Keano is somewhat diffrent
Because of being our captian for so long..
You just have to add roy!
Cause everyone had a soft spot for him
no fuckin’ way – do even have to ask that question?? the guy has had one good season and too many shit ones – how does that qualify him being a legend? ferguson is a legend for making him the player he is and selling him for 80 million………end of story
Its an easy one to answer this… fantastic footballer yes… but United Legend??? Noooooooooooooo…
United Legends have class… have an aura about them… have songs sung about them years after they finish there time at OT…
Will we still be signing Ronaldo Songs in 10 years time?? Nope..
Do we still sing about Cantona? Best? etc etc We sure do… as they are United Legends..
@manc’er
Chelsea successfully bought the league 5 years ago. After their couple of years in the sun we came back developing players. Chelsea have an ageing team and go through managers like water. You are arrogantly talking like you’ve already won the league and the CL like the scousers. Come back and gloat when you’ve won something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_st29mlQwU
And how is this not saying your not a red?
Macheda is GOD
do you not think that was discracefull for a captain of a team and a rle model to millions should of done that by a grudge he had with himself 2 years earlier
keano is a legend
and i say that as an irish man and i got a nice big black eye in a pub one night because i stood up for the roy keane v ireland thing
but that was fucking stupid if you ask me
rc7 i dont think ive ever disagreed with anything you’ve said in the last 4 days but do you think ronaldo go down as a legend
@Manc’er, you say 80 mills on the transfer market won’t cut it for us because we’re losing our best player (Ronaldo). How much did Ronaldo cost us when he arrived at 18? Do you remember, 12 mills! Who’s to say that some of our extreme young talents won’t grow up to be world class like Ronaldo? I had no idea who Vidic or Evra was when they first arrived, they didn’t cost much.
I can picture you saying the same thing when Cantona retired, when Keane left, when Beckham was sold, when Nistelrooy was sold (where are the goals gonna come from?). Has history taught you nothing??
After two good seasons? Not a chance.
Greatly talented player but having built him into the talent he is, he’s turned his back on the club & followed his ‘dream’. Good luck to the kid, he did well for us but he’ll never be a legend in my mind.
I certainly won’t be mentioning his name along with Edwards, Styles, Law, Charlton, Best, Robson, Keane, Cantona etc. etc.
Jig
i know its different reasons
one sad one a dream
but Duncan Edwards was only at united a short time
and like the george best points
im not taking anything away from him being a legend
but why cant ronaldo
Opinions divided i see. I coted no. He is a fantastic footballer and undoubtedly a United great. But he is no legend. A legend is so much more than getting 42 goals in a season. Ruud got 150 in 5 seasons and he is not considered a legend either. Lets use the word legend only on very special occasions.
With u on that Costa’s buddy
he grew into a world player of the year at manchester united
that has to count alot
hes a great player but i wouldnt say he was a united legend
@gotta hate tiny tears
I don’t think many people would disagree that Roy is a United Legend.
Best, Law and Charlton are United Legends, i would never say otherwise. What i will add is that United Legends do not have to hang up their boots to be considered a Legend. I class Peter Schmeichel as a Legend but he played on after he left us, even playing for city.
that was my point
but you agreed with someone with a different point
@GHTT
From a personal view I can’t answer that at the moment. I prefer to judge after a player has retired or a few years after a player has left.
gud bye Ronny welcome valencia.
Fair enough mate. Ronaldo will never be a united legend in my opinion though.
Like Costas previously stated, Ruud smacked 150 goals in 5 seasons for us and is not regarded as a legend either.
United Legends (Open to opinion):
Duncan Edwards
Roger Byrne
Sir Bobby Charlton
Dennis Law
George Best
Steve Bruce
Bryan Robson
Eric Cantona
Roy Keane
Ryan Giggs
ghtt
I guess when a player spends his best years at a club he is associated with the club & stand the chance of becoming a legend. Ronaldo could spend the next 10 years with Real becoming a legend at that club in the process. I don’t fancy picking up the scraps.
It seems to vary from player to player & club to club – Is Cantona considered a legend at Leeds? at Marseille? Is Keane considered a legend at Forest? at Celtic?
I just don’t think Ronaldo was at the top of his game for long enough at Utd to consider him a legend. But it’s just my opinion.
roy keane is a forest legend
and you stick to your opinion
legend ? empty words..
is Scholesy a legend ?
ghtt
Yeah that’s my point – Some players share a special relationship with one club, some with a couple, some with none.
PS Corea – Scholes is definitely a legend in my book.
2pacs a legend.
scholes is a legend+1
Who is the one and only Legend who has played for Manchester United to date?
Answer – Sir Bobby Charlton!
@ SMITHY99
Cheers mate – I considered Keano but decided against it because of his Celtic fixation – a little hard perhaps on reflection. If Keano asked me to my face I would of course say absolutely Mr Keane.
I think Wazza has all the makings of United Immortality and hope to see him play as long as (Sir) Ryan Giggs.
Gray Neville should maybe make that list aswell although he has never been truly AWESOME so I left him off.
simple no because no legend behave like he does on the pitch
I think ronaldo was a legend in probably the most successful short period of our history.
I think for most fans to class him as a legend he would have to have stayed 12 years, similar to beckham.
(In ronaldos 6 years he won 3 league titles + 1 champs league, in beckham’s 12 years he won 6 league titles + 1 champs league)
Rooney..legend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2cxhki3QU&NR=1
I think that the key thing here is that doing legendary things and being a legend is something different. He has done a lot for Manchester United and this cannot be questioned. Probably his personality and celebrity-like mind are the factors that won’t earn him the status of a legend.
For me he is not.
ROJO RED ROT ROUGE
I’d certainly consider Keane a legend, he was the on-field personification of Ferguson for our domination of English football through the 90′s.
There’s a lot of crap coming out of him since leaving but I’ll never forget his commitment to the club.
Something i’ve been thinking. If Everton are bought by a billionaire sheikh and Rooney decides he wants to play for his boyhood team, in lets say three years time, how would we all feel.
i would say that chris ron is definantly a premier league legend, the best player to ever play at the emirates maybe,club legend is a strong word,usually given to guys who would die for the cause
legends respect the club
ronaldo doesnt
Legends play for the club first. Not themselves.
I dont feckin believe this… Real have offered £6m more than us for Benzema, and Benzema was happy to sign for us, but Real have stumped up more more than us, and we wont go any higher… we have bid £26m and Real £32m, so thats another one thats gone by the by… ffs
@rc7 – probably shitty…but would he be welcomed back?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2cxhki3QU&NR=1
Bayern Munich general manager Uli Hoeness has left Real Madrid with a glimmer of hope in their pursuit of Franck Ribery, but reiterated that it will take “something crazy” for them to consider a sale.
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united should wrap up benzema , if thats who they want, while th eribery thing is going on
The fact that the question is even asked already rules him out as a legend. How many of our previous legends have had debates about their status? None! Can’t remember who but someone got it spot on, legends are sung about for years after they leave, I believe you will never hear viva ronaldo at OT again and that says it all. Legends are adored by all and the split opinion on this page alone clearly shows ron is definitely NOT adored by all. So, is he a legend? Nope
Valencia’s name should be sang for 90 mins
Despite everything OF COURSE HE’S A FUCKING LEGEND!! He is unique in this world and became the best player in the world at UNITED.
I loathed his antics as much as the next Red blooded devil but I cannot mask his talent. He did the number 7 shirt proud and as much as I’m excited about Valencia I hope that he is not given the 7 shirt.
A fantastic footballer but a legend ‘NO’. It takes much more to be a United LEGEND like for instance loyalty.
To me is more than clear that he is a United legend. Absolute class, and skills. Look what he helped us (a lot) to achieve.
Voted Yes, see the man as United legend, but I can understand why some say no.
By the way, some papers are saying that Benzema have already sealed a deal with Real even that United offered more for the player. As noticed that, but you can’t trust papers like this.
Other than them, anyone knows if it’s really true? I can’t believe in it! Now, there’s a blow on us.
With out question, the best player to put on the red shirt end of(sorry best fans).
just finished watching a program i havent seen since 1993
captains log
bruce carrying around a camera for the last 6 weeks of the 92/93 season and it ends with sir matt giving giggs a hug beside the premiership trophy and i swear tears filled my eyes
Computer says NO. What if he one day becomes a legend in madrid ? Are we gonna fight with those horrible cunts over his legend status.
Ronaldo could have become a ManUtd God but he chose to only become a demigod. I just hope he’ll be allowed to achieve the accolades he got when he was a Red Devil.
manchester united news that is sure to rock the world
Hibernian have signed former Hearts youngster Danny Galbraith from Manchester United. The left winger has signed a two-year deal on the day that Alan O’Brien’s contract was cancelled by mutual consent.
Real Madrid have completed the signing of Lyon striker Karim Benzema for an initial £30million fee. The France international had also been a target for Manchester United and the deal could eventually rise to £35million.
fukin ragin…how do them bastards do it..fukin hate them up ther wif the dippers…cunts…fuk this
what makes a hypertalented footballer a LEGEND?
eg..messi,cristiano,gerrard,kaka,lampard,
ITs the attitude,passion,charismatism,personality….after 10 years all the world will consider messi as a true legend..but not ronaldo why???
several reasons:
–he scores goals..but for himself…
–he wins awards to satisfy himself and enjoys hiself and not for fans ..
–he moved to madrid just bcoz he likes get to the history book..of course..
–his footballl brain was developed by SAF and manu..and doesnt show commitment to the team by staying through his peak age
–so many of them sacrificed thier talent(roonery) for him..and wht he does?????
–he wishes himself to become a brand model and not a role model…
–he calls himselves as legend CR7….
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He is definately a legend!bigears,3 straight league cups,42 in47 please!his contribution was massive and emotions shouldnt deem the fact that we probably would still be looking up at the scum had he never wore the no.7.
not that i excuse the nonsense.
BREAKING:
real reached a deal with lyon!
united offered 38million
he wanted to go there
so we are better off with out him
simple
Now that Benzema is a madrid player. I think we should go for huntelarr as a back up striker for rooney and berb.
Doherty
ive been saying that for over a year
and now we must be silly not too
maybe thats the plan all along
make madrid think we are picking up there scraps so we get him for less
i am not sure we need a benzema bcoz it will make the team selection more worse……if we get just happy!!!!!
it would be more good iff we buy a back up striker (free agent).or some one less than 20m..
THEN SPLASH THE F……NG BUCKS TO BOLSTER UP MIDFIELD TO COMPETE WITH BARCA,REAL,POOL….
striker options…fabiano,gudjohnsen,ruud,owen,rossi,cassano,….
Well, most of the past players who have worn the number 7 shirts are legends, so i classify him as a legend, but not a utd one. those legends loved the club and loved playing for it, while ronaldo was only dreaming of real madrid.
maybe if he doesn’t do too well at madrid, we’ll put him in this category, but time will tell. remember, he hasn’t hit his peak yet, he’s only 24, and if he does hit his peak at madrid then the facists will claim he’s their legend.
so, has the benzema dream evaporated. i’ve been thinking about it last night, couldn’t sleep, imagining how wonderful it would be to have him play for us. then i hear this terrible news in the morning, feel depressed. if he chooses to go there, then he’ll become a legend in his own right. the superb benchwarmer legend.
off topic but BENZEMA GONE TO MADRID!!:(
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/cristianoronaldo/5710680/Cristiano-Ronaldo-admits-lashing-out-at-teenage-girl.html
LOOKS LIKE RONNIE IS BEGINNING WITH HIS OWN DOWNFALL NOW FERGIES ARMY IS NO LONGER ABLE TO PROTECT HIM. JUST WAIT TIL THE SPANISH PRESS GOES TO WORK ON HIM AND SEE HOW THAT EFFECTS HIS GAME.
GOOD LUCK REAL, YOU GONNA HAVE FUN WITH THIS LITTLE PRINCESS.
Well we woke up to late for Benzema, that’s all i am going to say. It has become sickening to watch Real buy whoever they want. I am wondering what options we have now.
yeah… one of my mates just emailed me a story. A very short one, from Soccernet – saying Benzema’s off to Real for 35 million pounds.
had warmed up to the idea.agony!
fucks sake fucking nazis have got benzema
costa the option we should of went for last season
the young ruud
hunterlaar
costas, i was just thinking the same thing. is there anyone left out there? i hate to say it… but zlatan? eto’o?
Holy shit. so they reached a deal? those cunts! they already have the best 2 players in the world, yet they’re snatching our target. if lyon sell him for 30 million, they’re fuking mad. we were willing to pay 35-38.
so…we need to search for an out and out striker. benzema seemed the perfect addition. who are we going to sign now?
B R E A K I N G N E W S
Oldham Athletic have signed former Luton Town goalkeeper Dean Brill on a two-year contract.
its as important as reals new signing
do you want a player who’s dream is to play for real and he went there for a lower askin price
we dont need that again
Not too sure about him GHTT. But right now, we might not have other options. Huntelaar must know that he won’t have many chances at Real now.
i’m so tired of hearing about the galacticos and perez. makes me sick.
fukcing hell i was really hoping for benzema.. so who’s left out there?
They have signed Kaka and Benzema for £86m….
Which is what we paid for Berbatov, Nani, Hargreaves and Valencia.
Pretty depressing stuff.
When we lost Beckham and Veron, we needed a big signing like Ronaldinho to soften the blow. That’s the part that Benzema could have played this summer. He wants to play for Real, but United didn’t bother him either. Now we might as well leave the strike force as it is and look to strengthen our wings amd midfield.
zlatan
eto’o
fabiano
vucinic
gignac
aguero
huntelaar
any other possibilities?
and to be honest, i would have taken benzema over any of the strikers i listed. depressing stuff.
Not in a million years. great player but a legend has to have something extra and ronaldo just hasn’t got it. He might have been a legend at another club but not United how can he compare with Edwards, Best Charlton, Law, Robson, Cantona, Keane. Not the same thing at all. Can we stop talking about him now he is still dead to me.
Ronaldo’s loss was meant to be a return to focus on our strikers, rather than a system based on him.
There was no way we were going to strengthen on our midfield, with Ronaldo leaving and Valenica ‘replacing him’.
That was where Benzema came in….a strong, fast, young striker who could finish well and compliment Rooney. The two of them would become the new focus of our attack.
Where we go from here i am not so sure. I wouldn’t want to put all of our eggs in one Ribery basket….and Huntelaar is unproven at best.
Valencia is a good signing, and maybe it’s best to wait it out and see who becomes available for a reasonable price, rather than rushing to try and replace Ronaldo.
I would have too sanj. From those you listed, it could probably be Vucinic or Fabiano. They are the 2 less expensive ones.
Costas – I don’t think its a case of United not bothering with Benzema. I have a feeling we did, and we did for other players as well. The problem is, as much as its difficult to accept, we don’t hold a candle to the likes of Real and Barca in a head to head contest for a player. Unless the players are British, or already playing in England, or have been childhood United fans…and lets be honest, there’s aren’t many class players out there who fit the above description.
Good footballer, not a united legend… great/world-class/legend is so overused these days.
Off-topic – what exactly are MADrid doing… buying everyone so that no one else can buy?! I hope they explode BIGGGGG… that’ll be a laugh.
Having said that, I would also have to say that over the years it looks like we’ve started with this handicap in the first place, and then just generally been crap at selling the club to players and showing them that we REALLY want them. Whether its just how SAF functions, or something else, I don’t know. But we suck at the transfer game….
we should go get the young llorente, im telling you he is a very good goalscorer!! Rooney will take ronaldo’s role and be more selfish now that we mugged real for £80 milll. Otherwise we can get SIlva or Dzeko….
wat do u guys think???
When will United next have a player win World player of the year? Honestly, when? Rooney needs to truly step up to get to that level as the WPOTY is about goalscorers nowadays.
Will we tell our kids and grandkids about Berbatov or Tevez? No. They will ask about the time United won the CL against Chelsea.
Forget, thinking of just the last two seasons, Real cursed seasons. Legends spend most of their careers at a club, i.e 5-6yrs at one club). Did Ronaldo love United? Did he ever truly have the desire to be at United and to win in that kit? Yes..
http://footballblips.dailyradar.com/video/ronaldo_vs_fulham_07/
The fire in his belly after he never got the foul before the ball came back his way on the half way line, to go and score that goal. You remember the moment. You remember how you felt at the time. Leaving bitterness to the dippers and cit-eh.
Legend. For me, he is one hell of a f’cking annoying legend. Legend in Red. Wannabe-Crossdressing-Real-Ladyboy in white. We’ll keep the memories. he can keep the stupid pink flower and the short-shorts.
Legend. Now, it’s time for Rooney to make us ask the question of him.
unfortunately, i think mahesh is 100% correct.
Mahesh we don’t know if we even made a bid. That’s the sad part here. If we had outbided Real, Benzema wouldn’t have had much to say in the matter. And i don’t think he prefers Real over United that much. It’s funny that we lost our main transfer target of the last 2 years the day the Ronaldo money was available.
Yep, Mahesh nailed it. It’s how we lost out on Ronaldinho, Essien, Robben, and countless others between then and Benzema.
Costas – Bezema had always said that he dreamed of one day playing for real madrid (beginning to sound all too familiar).
We knew the money was in place for weeks now. If we had showed a bit more conviction, rather than sitting on our hands, we could have been celebrating his signing tonight.
Same thing had happened with Ronaldinho…and we recovered with the finding of Ronaldo.
As much as i wish that miracle will happen again, i have my doubts this summer
Man I’m a little stunned. I was really hoping we’d go full in for Benzema, but then again, Benzema would probably choose Real over us if we’d match the bid. I wouldn’t be surprised if Real would go for Ribery now…they’re on a shopping spree.
What’s our option now? Huntelaar? We’d probably get him for 15 mills. I really think we need that kind of striker, the Nistelrooy type.
Damn it, I really wanted Benzema; young, strong, pacey and still has plenty of time to improve even more.
We missed out on Ronaldinho from PSG over a few million.
This is just another case like that.
SAF must have known Real were interested.
There just aren’t that many players with that kind of potential out there suited to the English game.
Manc’er – shit comeback you silly cunt. My post stated facts, facts that show you are the deluded one. Your twat of a chairman Gary Cook claimed that Kaka bottled coming to City back in January, when he clearly didn’t join for footballing reasons, hence his move to Madrid for a fraction of what City offered. Now you have Gareth Barry instead. We have sold players time and time again, and we have still been successful and that won’t change with Ronaldo going. Liverpool have doubled us in the league before and still have fallen short in subsequent seasons, the same can be said of Arsenal, so your argument is a shit one.
As for my balls, your mum had no complaints when she was cupping and licking them. You wanna get personal you cunt then by all means carry on, cos I will fucking anhialate you, you bitter blue S.O.B.
By the way, where in my post did I make racist remarks about arabs?
OMG read this!!!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_5409771,00.html
he wanted to come to us but we were not prepared to pay……..
Ridiculous………
Costas – I don’t see any reason why we wouldn’t have matched Real’s bid for Benzema (especially given that its not an inflated price) – either we didn’t want him, or we had some sort of contact with the players agent/reps and figured that if it came down to real vs. us he would pick them. In which case we probably didn’t even bother. I have a feeling its the latter case – we were told by his reps that we didn’t have a shot if he had to pick between the two and we just didn’t want to embarrass ourselves especially after the kind of things that SAF has been saying about Real for the last year or so…
benzema done deal to real,30m up front,5m in add ons.
who do united go for next.
and why is that fat stuart hall lookalike blatter not saying anything about the amount of cash the nazis are spending.
aguero?
ribery?
who else is there?
Benzema was never coming to united, we got rid of one player who was whoring himself out to them for the past 2 years, why buy another one!
The problem is that we haven’t seen United go with conviction for any player. It’s all been speculation. Valencia’s signing was always going to happen. At the moment, we are not acting as if we have sold Ronaldo. Like we never got the 80 million. We forgot to mention Villa as an option, but it seems like his club won’t sell. Hence why Real went for Benzema.
LEGEND? HELL NO, Great player? Yes. Frankly I’m dismayed at the 370 votes he got(maybe that was GHTT voting multiple times). What an insult to Giggs et al to pu Ronaldo in the same category with them, some fans really need to get their heads out of his behind. Like someone said Legends are not only loved by United fans but by all FOOTBALL FANS. Just ask ANY Liverpool or City fan, even the staunchest rival fan has a soft spot for Giggs. Players like him are TRUE United legends, because they are universally respected, even Best with his alcohol issues gave United TWELVE YEARS of his career and is still widely respected all over England and just not by United fans.
I’m not talking out of bitterness, I can assure you that even looking back after 5 or 50 years, my stance would still remain the same, Ronaldo was a great player for United, but NEVER a legend.
Oh dear, Benzema is off to Madrid, that made me really sad. Now, let’s get one good striker available (I would say Luis Fabiano, the guy is on fire and a great player, on the down side he’s 27), and splash some money in a guy that is absoulte class on the midfield.
I was thinking Real will be able to even get Ribery? I think maybe we got a chance with him now…
And hope the chemistry next year, is able to do magic.
Do you think it’s reasonable that i almost hate madrid as much as liverpool?
Benzema is overrated, much rather kiko wellbeck & even campbell get a chance. we need an experienced back up for wazza & berba who can pitch in 10-15 goals. third time lucky for shearer….
Costas – conviction is something we always seem to lack – I can’t for the life of me figure out why that is the case. We are probably one of the clumsiest clubs in world football when it comes to player transfers. I can think of several almighty fuck ups we have made, the kinds of which we frankly cannot afford to be making…Any explanations?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1196784/Real-Madrid-beat-Manchester-United-35m-Karim-Benzema-signing.html
Before people get suicidal, read that article, it says Benzema had made a choice to go to REAL MADRID, so I really doubt it would have mattered much what we did because the player had made his choice and it wasn’t us so all Madrid had to do was put in a bid and he was theirs. Plus its not like we can outbid Madrid anyway, remember our budget is limited to £100m while theirs is limited to an infinite amount of loans from Spanish banks.
After many years of Fergie, people ought to have known him by now. Besides the Djemba- djemba, Kleberson fiasco, can anyone remember when Fergie had ever panick- bought? Thought not, besides press speculation, there’s nothing to show we were ever fully in contact with Lyon or even made a bid
No. He may become (or already is) a legend in the game and he will always be remembered for playing at United but I don’t class him as a United legend. The same way that Maradona is a legend in the game but (as far as I’m aware) isn’t a true Barca legend.
Manchester United had, for one beautiful season, the best player in the world once more gracing our pitch. Skill, finesse and arrogance. Cristiano Ronaldo will be a name many people remember and we were fortunate enough to have that season out of him.
I can’t say Mahesh. I think we don’t want another situation like we had with Berbatov last year, where we were held for ransom. We seem to think that we can make any team lower their price. Valencia’s transfer went through for 2 reasons:1) No other club made an enquiry. 2) He wanted to come, his contract was running out next summer, so Wigan had no choice. We lost Ronaldihno because we wouldn’t pay what PSG wanted. Barca did, so they got him. We think that we can always bring the price down.As if it’s a pride issue.
hurm… benzema to Real is quite a blow…. not because we failed to get him, but just because Real beat us again… damn…
I hate Real more and more..
Legendary arrogance. Creativity. Bewitching. Can create something out of nothing. Yes, I am talking about yesterday’s English press and their Benzema to United stories. What? You thought I was still going on about CR7?
BENZEMA WAS NOT MEANT TO BE.
SO WHO WILL IT BE ?
DONT FRET MY FELLOW REPUBLIKANS.
LETS ALL TRUST IN FERGIE.
WE WILL GET SOMEONE WORTH HAVING BECAUSE PLAYING FOR UNITED IS A DREAM COME TRUE NOT SECOND CHOICE BECAUSE GENERAL FRANCOS FIRST ELEVEN DID NOT WANT THEM FOR THE NATIONAL SOCIALIST FOOTBALL SOCIETY OF MADRID.
IF UNITED DRAW REAL MADRID IN THE FINAL STAGES OF THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THEN YOU JUST KNOW IT WAS FIXED THAT WAY.
WE WILL STILL BEAT THEM.
Pull your fucking finger out Gill. Starting to get pissed off now with the cunts at Madrid. As I said earlier why the fuck did we not put in a stipulation that if we DO sell Ronaldo they can’t touch anyone we are after. Were we ever even after him though? Hunterlaar has got to be worth a punt now. Not gonna worry though, it will all get sorted. Sometimes though I wonder if the Fascists just buy players so we can’t have them. Where the fuck is that cunt Blatter?
@Costas: Loud mouth Whelan himself said REAL MADRID were interested in Valencia too and he made a decision which one he wanted. Plus, what exactly is your source that we even contacted Benzema or that we were even interested? If I remember correctly, all Fergie has ever said about him was that he was a really good player.
Why is is so hard to understand that the player chose Madrid over us? How’s that United’s fault? He has always made it clear that Madrid was his dream destination, what should Fergie have done, put a gun to his head or kidnap him?
The only ones i can think of now are :
Ribery
Huntlaar
Tim Cahill (i know but would be a good player for us)
Sanchez (plays in Italy but is from Chile)
Aguero (dont want an Argie)
I dont know, i got a bad feeling about the transfers this summer… and we will get some bollock excuse on it all..
Pissed off, going for a shower..
OTRed – Was it his dream to play in Madrid though? Someone posted a scanned magazine article on here yesterday where he said that was misinterpreted and he loves watching the Red Devils. Suppose he could have been whoring himself to both clubs. Better off without the cunt then but just pissed off , we seem to fuck about so much regarding transfers. Sir Alex will have summat up his sleeve I am sure.
@OTRed: That’s what i am saying. It has all been speculation and nothing else. My question was and still is, if Fergie rated him as high, why did we never make an offer? Maybe it’s the fact that Benzema looked to favour Real. At the moment, we have no idea what the budget is and what our targets are. So all we have is speculations.
As far as Valencia is concerned, Whelan might have been looking to raise the fee. But even if Real were interested, it was Valencia’s desire that made the deal happen. Not some great offer we made.
javac – I thought you were talking about Cantona!
@KingEric: he said he loves to watch us, doesn’t mean its his dream to play for us or that he wants to come to OT. I remember DAVID VILLA saying the same about ARSENAL and LIVERPOOL last summer, he said he liked watching the two teams, that doesn’t mean its his dream to transfer to Arsenal though.
@Costas: maybe Aulas was doing the same with Benzema? Because no one knows whether we made a bid or not. When the Lyon chairman knows that Benzema wants to leave for Madrid, its easy to throw United’s name in there too, so he gets as much as possible from Madrid.
How many people on here will have an eye on Real Madrid next year? I mean they are assembling quite the team..umm..i mean forward line..as a United fan I am totally gutted because this kid is very talented…but he wanted to go to Madrid so be it…personally i think it was the wrong choice for his career as he will be on the bench more often than not in a world cup year…it will always be Raul and another striker (unless Raul decides to hang it up which won’t happen for at least 2 years)…if I was Pellegrini I would be having nightmares…Raul, Higuain, Ronaldo, Robben, Van Nilstroy, Benzema, Kaka, Huntelaar…good problem to have but headache nonethless..interesting to see who will do the defending from that lot. Watch kaka turn into a holding mid..
With the amount of stars they’re buying and the money they’re spending, anything short of the La Liga title + CL finals would be a failure.
Be patient guys… I am sure we will ultimately get players who actually want to play for us… Have faith, even if we get no one I won’t mind too much, give support to our players who are here and want to be here…
If fergie had pushed it and bid 40 million for him last week, lyon wouldn’t have turned it down, and benzema wouldn’t have a lot of a say in the move. it’s really frustrating; we could’ve got him easily, fergie should’ve made the move quickly and signed him. we were too slow; now those cunts have got him.
they shouldn’t be allowed to spend this sort of money in one season! i can’t belive no one’s doing anything. where is blatter and platini, those idiots.
SSN are saying the Virus are “close” to beating Man Utd to signing Benzema, so it looks like a done deal. Graham Cunter reckons we only offerred £24 m so we were outbid. I don’t know what the fuck to believe.
Thats what my fear is… if we leave it too long, the virus are gonna buy every fucker… they are still on about David Villa..
Realistically who can we get who is proven??
I would offer Arsenal big bucks for Arshavin, coz he tore the dippers apart at Anfield… mind u saying that he is direct, very much like Valencia.. so we already got that..
We defo need a goalscorer… but who … i dont know… i just hope that we dont big for Aguero… SAF must know by now that these Argies aint to be trusted….
It is not a matter of being outbid…I think the thing I love about our club is..for the most part (except for Berbatov and Veron) we don’t pay over the odds for players unless they are absolutely worth it…if a player says he wants to go to X, and a club is being offered 3-5 mill less for the club he wants to go for..its highly likely they will sell him to his preferred destination…why be a pawn in a bidding war with Madrid?!?! C’mon guys…I think this is a matter of the player choosing RM and not us, not of GIll and Fergie dragging on the deal…I am sure a lot went on behind the scenes to try and get the kid but ultimately they have to make a judgment call of how high they will bid for a player who didn’t deem OT as first choice…
fantastic player, but NEVER a legend. The fact not all United supporters think he’s a legend says it all.
Best,Law,Charlton,Cantona,Giggs etc there real legends, ronaldo disrespected our club and never had the personality of a legend.
Villa is 28 this year and £30+m seems a lot of money for me but he is a great player, also we have Berbatov and Rooney surely the most sensible option would be to play the two of them from the outset, we have spent about £55m so if we spend big again on the striker then Berba will have to sit on the bench or Wazza will play out fucking wide!
We should just get Huntelaar the facists would almost give him away, he would be a sensible cheap option and it would give big Berba and Rooney a decent run.
yes Stephen thats a good call…
Benzema was not a big miss for me. Do we know for sure United were in for him? I want to see Rooney and Berba strike a partnership and let the young strikers develope as their understudies. What we should be looking for is some exceptionally attacking midfeild talent. What about Wesely Shnider ( I know misspelt!!) I have no doubt that SAF or Gill have a plan and are not in the least bit stressed by this news. It just increases the likihood of a sell-off at RM. (Spose there’s no chance we’d have Ruud back is there!?)
Benzema wanted to go to the fascists- just anounced.
Move on
fergie has been chasing Benzema for around two years…yet the facists were able to capture his services in about a month.
agree with stephen…we should go for huntelaar, he’s a great striker, 25 years old and 265 appearances and 179 goals isn’t bad at all.
Pjanic, the guy who got us excited yesterday saying benzema is close to coming to utd, denies the comments. so they weren’t true after all.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11800_5408818,00.html
I think the Huntelaar idea is a good one… the kings team should sell him on cheap and as mentioned before that 179 goals in 256 appearances is a record to at least work with, we also need a monster of a midfielder now, an essien type player would be immense, i have heard Yaya Toure being mentioned…. any ideas or am i totally off the mark??
He has just signed a contract at Barca mate, I can’t see him wanting to leave or Barca wanting to sell. We have a few options Toulalon, De Rossi or maybe Flamani would be a decent punt.
Yaya Toure just signed a new contract I think, if, and thats a big IF Hargreaves is fit, he would do just the job better than most.
i agree on Hargo doing the job…. but i just worry that if these ops on his knees have not sorted it then nothing will… apologies on yaya… i dont keep up with spanish news…
Yeah Flamini is a good shout Stephen. Like a lot on here I won’t be TOO disappointed if we don’t buy big this summer (quality wise) but it is a concern if the £80 million plus is just going in Glazers arse pocket.
He is an aggressive little fucker and puts his foot in ask Nani, and last season that was an area we missed , he would also not be too pricey and he knows the prem, also I don’t think he supports Real!
he dont support real???? thaought it was mecca for all players. daz really does clean blood out of white shirts
Good call with Flamini. Always liked him and he is just the type of player we need. would be to hopefull on it happening tho.
the team we won the league and champions league with in 08 is the team that was young enough to span and dominate half a decade. i don’t know why, but now i am wishing that tevez and ron didn’t want to leave, yet at the same time i am glad they’re gone.
we have to move on.
now, at the age of 67, fergie has to rearrange our attack, and i have no doubt that he’ll bring in just the right players. i’d love to have silva in midfield and huntelaar in attack with rooney and berba.
As for Legends please do not forget Solskjaer : ) United manager in the grooming me thinks (ala Barca approach: appoint from within). As for Benzema – come on we didn’t even bid for him. We have Rooney who is far better. What we need is a striker to compliment Wayne and Berbatov, because believe me people, Macheda will ring circles around everyone next year. We know it, they don’t know it so ye of no faith, we have our star in the making. So what if he’s young or inexperienced? He is at Manchester United, the home of youth football.
Are you lot forgetting your principles, those that doubt? Real Madrid might want to be built in a day, but this United team believes in being built for years to come. And let’s not forget about Wellbeck. Hence no Ribery because we just don’t need him. Plus remember Ronaldo, what was he when he came? Would he ever have scored 42 goals for Madrid had he had gone over as a youngster? Would he ever have been world and European player of the year? Never – they do not believe in their youth product as much as we do. They never would have given him the support to get to where he is today. It’s Ronaldo who doesn’t understand that, doesn’t accept that he has given up on the best thing that ever happened to him because he wants the circus, the comedy show that is Real Madrid. You lot who do not believe only have to look at who is building the team – the President, not the manager. And Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema et al want to be a part of what? Some President’s fantasy? Please let them be. If Ronaldo knew better he still should have been here – at least until SAF walked. Maybe then we as fans could never have said no to him joining Madrid because that’s what he had always wanted. But for Ronaldo to walk out like a spoilt child will only serve to haunt him. Brilliant football – yes. World’s best, yes – better than Messi and Kaka. But United Legend? No, never, not like one former number seven who gave up football, because outside MUFC their was nothing. He was a legend, not a Beckham who decided that money was more important than the team that had given him all the status in the world, and certainly not Ronaldo, who from a nobody became the best footballer on earth with the Guidance of the best manager. He re-payed him with disloyalty by not believing in his vision. So the best player can walk, but certainly no United legend.
This new Galatico era looks destined to fail (touch wood), there are far too many egos in that dressing room, where is Raul going to play centre back? They have RVN, Guti, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Huntelaar, Higuaín, Robben or Drenthe warming the bench I for one hope it all ends in tears.
Benzema signed for RM … what do we do now SAF ? Which players are we lookng at now ?
@Stephen
Drenthe going to Fiorentina and looks like they are trying to dump Ruud as well. THat would still leave Huntelaar, Higuain, Raul, Benzema and all those attacking mids…I will watch Madrid games just to see who will start sulking first!
Ha ha that would be quality personally Drenthe would be a good signing for us.
Benzema is a real blow as the club desperately need a ‘number 9 type’ who will play on the line of the defence. However, no need to panic buy – Huntelaar is very much of the Nistelrooy ilk and lacks the pace to fit in to the current United team. Also need to maintain the policy of putting youth first. However, are Macheda and Welbeck good enough (both appear a little clumsy on the ball)? We shall see, but in midfield Petrucci and Ljajic appear to be the business. The latter is, according to the comprehensive scouting reports carried out by sky sports one of the best young players they have ever looked at.
http://www.skysports.com/football/transfers/scout/0,24035,15198_5293960,00.html
‘Little Kaka’ looks like one hell of a prospect
The more I think about these crazy market conditions the more I think we would be well advised to invest rather than spend.
If Fergie wanted to really leave a legacy at Old Trafford how about investing 100million pounds in the best academy in the whole world. Where the kids are brought in to what would be a public school type set up with the best tutors, guest speakers, training, nutrition,psychology, facilities etc.
He would know better than me what to do but imagine the results if the United old boys like Nev, Ole, Giggsy etc were able to run the development side. It could be a great school for our future managers to hone their skills and coaching abilities. Think of the talent you could nurture and as importantly the talent that would come in the knowledge that if they dont make it as a player they will have a fantastic education to fall back on or even put to use within the United set up.
Or blow 70million to buy Frank Ribery and have him for 3 – 4 years and enough for an average midfielder and defender.
I suspect Fergie would like to do something like that but does not think the fans would be patient enough.
We should judge Ronaldo in 15 years time and we will look back and say he was a legend, if only for 6 years! i’ve never seen a player in my life who can do with the ball what he does…unfortunately i wasn’t born when Best and Pele were around. At the end of the day we got 80 million for him and all people keep saying is that its good business but in footballing terms you won’t be able to replace the best player in the world for any amount…Messi is the only one who could replace Ronaldo’s fantasy but i’ve got more chance of playing at OT next year than he has
Not keen on talk of huntelaar… Surely not pacey enough for our style of attack?
Where the hell do Real get all this money… That’s £180m in 3 weeks!!!
Surely they can’t sign Ribery now?? Does that offer us the opportunity to go get?
let’s give Real a 25 million package for Schneijder and Huntellar. Problems solved. Still have around 40-50 million for a left winger called Ribery.
People seem to easily forget what he’s accomplished for our club. If you were asked this question at the end of 07/08 you would’ve said he was.
Maybe he wont be in the same catagory as Best or Charlton (even though hes the only other United player to win the Ballon Dor.)
But atleast he should get the appreciation he deserves.
I’m not going to be bitter about him leaving like i have been for a while.
He has to be considered as a legend, everything hes done for united to help us win trophies, you cant say he isnt.
In other words: yes
Fuck it, we will probs start with valencia as our only signing. The press will write us off, other fans will mock us and then come the end of the season some pundit or another will be retracting the words “you dont win anything with kids” when we have won the premiership.
Oh wait…
MG – Good post and good call on Ole being future United manager. Great first season in charge of Reserves only losing four games I think. Three more years or so till Sir Alex goes then would love to see Ole replace him. GOT to be someone from within United. Forget O’Neill, Moyes, Maureen etc.
Ronaldo is a legend ..end-of. The only debate is whether he was at the club for too short a period. But if you look at what he achieved and the kind of buzz he brought to OT it’s not even a discussion. I think the only thing most United fans would hold against him is that he lusted after another club more than he loved United…and as a United fan that is gutting to say the least…when your best player doesn’t love the club as much as you do…anyway I will eb surprised to see what he says about United after he is presented at madrid…
cdonyi – I would like to think he will have only good things to say.
Forget Ribery. Rojo Red makes a good point.
BENZEMA FAIL.
Come on guys, Ronaldo won the Ballon d’Or with United. What other United players have won that! There’s some good company. Take George Best.. started at United at a similar age, left United at a simlilar age. Compare the two they won the same things.
The only differance I suppose is Ronaldo is not from the UK and has such has no allegence to the cause. It makes you wonder what Real Madrid would fork out for Best in this day and age. A lot more than £80M that’s for sure.
Why do I feel a bit deflated on hearing Benzema has gone to Real Turd?
I think we have missed the boat again on a player that would have been great for us. Same kind of feeling as I had when Barca signed Ronaldinho after we chased him for 6 months.
I think we need a proven forward. We have Berba and Wayne. Great players but are we going to flog them to death with 60+ games this season? Macheda and Wellbeck are going to be great in a few years when Fergie eases them in. But to expect them to take up the slack of Ronnie and Tevez departures? I think that would risk wrecking their careers with the sheer pressure and weight of expectation.
I look around and wonder who is out there that is worth buying/pursuing? Think Benzema was our best hope to get a great player in at a reasonable price.
Lets have a look at whos out there.
Eto’o is a great player but would he be too lightweight in the EPL? He carries a lot of attitude and baggage. At £250k per week no thanks
Aguero – looks worth a try but at a sensible price somewhere around £20-£25 million, nowhere near the £45million mark that would be too big of a risk and is he another Berba/Wayne type forward? I think he is.
Villa – he is good but a bit small and he is 28ish getting on a bit for a price tag of £40 million +
Ibra, Fabiano, Nilmar overhyed – not as good as people think they are. Average to good players at best. Take Macheda, Wellbeck and even Campbell over them anyday
Dzenko, Gignac – a big risk don’t know much about them, are they any better than what we have already?
Not much out there now.
Ribery is a winger, he is a great player love his attitude. Wellbeck is a Centre forward that SAF has played on the wing in much the same way he has played Fletch/Scholes & Wayne out there and I think there isn’t anyone on here that would suggest that winger was their best position!
I say fuck the Scum and Arsholes fans off big time. Pretend to pursue Torres and Cescpit. Fuck that would really lift my spirits
@RojoRed
Agree with you,mate. I think Fergie is of the same opinion. When Sir Matt left it was an ageing team. Fergie is faced with making sure the current squad is ok to hand over to the new manager but at the same time remaining competitive.
Asd for him being a legend – no way not after last summer. You are never going to be a legend when you say it is your dream to play for another club. Like your mother saying she would rather have had another son not you.
I hope that no one gives them big money for any of the players they are trying to offload. Its like a forced sale. Ecv veryone knows they will have to seel to get some money back in and to get some wages off. so play fucking hardball with the cunts like they have done to everyone else for years.
Continued:
If we now abandon our principles of investing in youth and marrying that principle with the courage and the whole philosophy of Manchester United, then it is we who have let ourselves down. If we cannot breathe that a Macheda is not in the same league or standing as a Ronaldo or a Benzema, then it us us who have abandoned our principles that have stood from Busby to Sir Alex. If we as fans cannot absorb the thrill in youth and accepting them as the guardians of our club then it is us who have become glory hunters. We should never betray our calling, and for one second I couldn’t care less what FM Perez 2009 is doing. I wonder how Pellegrini must be feeling. Has he got the balls to coach the sequel to the galacticos? Good luck to him then. I ask you all, Pellegrini or Sir Alex? Or should I put it Perez or Sir Alex? If he fails by the way how many more managers Ronaldo et al will have to go through to fulfill their dream?
Fans here should tolerate that the gaffer has led us from the brink of obscurity to three premierships, a champions league and ultimately just missing out on winning it back to back. Do you think he doesn’t haven’t have a clue in what he’s doing? Do you think he must be having a sleepless night missing out on another Real Madrid toy in Benzema? I bet you all is well. Everything is still in place, Ronaldo was gone last year and Tevez showed his true colors. He knew this all along and he also knows who he wants. So let RM do all the donkey work and apparently buy all the players we want to buy. For one moment do you believe that? I don’t. Newspapers and Journalists are hyping this all up to us being knocked out of the market, the truth is that we are not even in it yet. When Sir Alex wants to be in their he will be, and that alone should be enough to convince fans that everything is just fine at OT. We have missed out on nobody because I urge you to follow our transfer pattern over the last few years. We got who we wanted to get on our time. Tosic and Adam Ljajic anyone? They were bought for a reason in January weren’t they? Just like a certain Vidic and Evra. Only time will ever tell what impact the two players make but let’s open ourselves up to give them a chance. And let’s also wait with great expectation for our next signings. I bet you Sir Alex knows who we need. Not what we think we want.
P.S. I agree with Rojo Red and I would like to thank King Eric.
@mg
Agree
@mg
Agree with you, mate. but we need a striker.
So RedHarry4Life you think our kids are better that Ibra and Fabiano?
I would definately take either of these two at the moment.
I think Luis Fabiano is definately an option we should look at – the goalscorer that we have needed for a while (I know he’s a bit old but so what – this seems to be our level right now)
I am not sure what is the issue with Benzema, that so many of you rate him so highly. Yes he scored a good goal against us, but that was it, Macheda has since scored a better goal! He has an attitude problem, clashed with senior members of the french team, and he wants to play for Real. So what’s the fuss about him going to Real? I’m sure Sir Alex would send him there himself! Nobody ever said we were interested in him, only the newspapers, trying to make news by saying we lost out. Goes to show we sell more newspapers than Real!
The only time there was any actual quote was last year that Sir Alex praised him as a good player, but never said anything else.
-Back to topic
-Ronaldo a legend? Nope. Maybe had he won us the game against Barca he might have been, but nope. He was just a good player for us
Breaking news – just heard that Benzema is about to announce a move to……………………………..RM, may they roast in hell! Can anyone confirm???
Anyone in here who bases their entire evaluation of Benzema on one game and one goal is an idiot. With that said I don’t think anyone is doing that, Marq. He is a highly promising striker who is creative and lethal in his finishing. Not to mention he is so young and therefore has time to grow into a system. I don’t want to come acorss Marq like i disagree with you because I don’t all together. He is a bit of hot tempered guy and I am scared off by his price. I think we have good young players who have loads of promise and simply need to strengthen with a good option for NOW not later. I don’t think we are missing out on something with Benzema, considering what we already have at the club.
On Ronaldo I think most fans will wait and see. If we go awhile without European success than maybe, otherwise I don’t think so. Personally, he will never be a legend due to last summer. He ruined a summer that should have been spent celebrating a fantastic achievement. A legend loves the club and wants to stay with the club for his career or as long as possible. He did not and made that crystal clear. He is a fantastic player and would have been a legend had he simple moved on without last summers antics but I can not forget the joy he personally stole from me so he could follow “his dream.” (yes I do take if personally)
MG – Yeah spot on again mate. It has me thinking. Sir Alex is NOT gonna be thinking………..”Damn, thats Benzema gone…………………who can I go for now?……..David Villa………….Damn he has gone now…..who can I get now?!!!!!
No he will have his ideas and he WILL get whoever he does actually want!
Hate to admit it now he has gone but its still a yes. Heart was no head was yes.
Benzema fail, even though we had the cash we didnt outbid real thats a bit frustrating i hope we beat those fuckers at bernebeu in this year’s ucl final
Anyone Fabiano? I think he would be a good bet, a proven goalscorer very sharp in front of goal and had a good confederations cup tournament
Listen to Scott from time to time. What was the fuss about this fucker Benzema ? Fuck him.
Fabiano’s 29… no way
To go for the Madrid reject ? Are you kidding ?
Let Huntellar stay where he belongs.
Hate this morning. It’s so funny. I knew the fucker would never sign for us but when i heard the news on eurosport i felt anger. Stupid.
@kevin
agree, I don’t feel like we missed out on anything about Benzema.
@oneunited
Real did not outbid us, we did not even put in a bid! We were never interested
@ Marq
was going through sky sports earlier and they said madrid offered 6 million more than us, but anyways fuck benzema. SAF must have something in mind.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-jump-on-the-benzema-bandwagon/
Good morning mate GHTT.
How are you ?
Agbonlahor ? Martins ? Jo ? Kenwyne Jones ?
Is this better than the players we already have in Campbell, Wellbeck, Macheda ?
I’m sick and tired of this transfer window.
lets not buy a super star striker……buy a back up one like hunteelar..
or try ruud..he can do more than benzema can….
….if we want to win UCL we have ti reenforce the midfield…saf must really throw in the money and wages to get midfielders..
presently i thnk the highest paid is rio and rooney abt 120k…
…MANU is the top ten brand ..try to merchandise that….for godsake
….try to really bring in snieder ..he is comparable to kaka….
…or even try dagastino….silva…hamsik..nilmar…
n
at present the best team frm which manu can raid players is fuc..ng madrid
…there are many talented players not guaranteed a first team spot..
like:
higuan…ruud…hunteelar..robben…snieder..m diarra..guti..
even the legend raul will willing to change his heroic team…to the great manchester(but we dnt need him).
the one player we missed is gourcuff….please saf get some supreme midfielder.lets compete with barca and not madrid
hows is this line up….?
———vds—————
maicon—vid—rio—-evra—-
———-hargreves———
–valencia———————silva–
———–snieder————–
———–rooney—berba———
sorry carrick!!!!!!111
Legends are remembered vividly remembered many years down the line. And to say Ronaldo will be remembered is a huge understatement. Simple as. There is no doubt he is a united lengend.
legend
• noun 1 a traditional story popularly regarded as historical but which is not authenticated. 2 an extremely famous or notorious person
— ORIGIN from Latin legenda ‘things to be read’, from legere ‘read’.
@ MG
Marvellous article!!
At first I thought shame about Benzema but its completely right that we should not want a player whose heart is elsewhere. Real Madrid has been a bit of a graveyard for decent players over the last few years – I’m thinking Royston Drenthe, Wesley Schneider, Aarjen Robben, Diarra, Ruud… I dont think any of them can profess to have improved their career since joining Real. All these vastly inflated egos in one team cant be good. Why dont we go for the guy who actually managed to score the most goals in France last year and costs half the price for Benzema – Gignac? He’s 6-1″ , pacy, strong and if he can bag 23 goals for Toulouse then what could he achieve in a top class team?
Ribery has apparently told Bayern that he wants to leave and join Real
Bayern could screw him over I suppose and sell him to us (Like we tried to sell Ruud to Bayern rather than Real) but he might refuse and anyway do we want a player who doesn’t want to be here.
Its the same with Benzema. We may or may not have bid and been outbidded. And he may have been happy to move to us BUT was that because Real had yet to put a bid in. Lyon have stated he expressed a desire to move to Real and he has spent the last 2 years saying real is his dream. If we had got him would Real have just come in next season and our hand forced to sell him as he wanted to join them?
We really should have gone for Kaka, he had in the past expressed an intrest in joining us. With that being missed we should be going for Sanchez, Costa and maybe Aquero (although I’m not sure we want another Argie but hey given the options hes the best).
Hell no. United legends are not just great players, but great men as well. He’s only the former.
is he fuck, you cant put him in the same sentence as our more resent legends like ERIC, ROBBO, GIGGSY, SCHOLES, OLE and BECKS i think a legend is someone who loves the club, he never loved the club, lets stop fucking about and get Hunttalar? or how ever you spell it
Great player? Yes – Legend? No
42 goals a season, 3 EPL titles, 2 UCL finals, 1 UCL title, World player of the year? Definitely he earns his legendary status. He will have his legacy somehow……. But career wise he has a long way to go. For his country and for Real MAdrid..
People here seem to have the same behaviour as what we used to have towards Micheal Jackson. Sorry if this is not a good example but we used to make fun of Jacko’s troubled life and all that, albeit what he has achieved and did for the entertainment world. Not until he died that people started to be sad, thankful and hail him and one of the greats.
Dont you all remember George Best? he had had his antics too. His boozing and rompings. He opted to live the superstar celebrity life. I dont want to get on any more detail on this. But you know what i mean. At the end he earned his legendary status none the less…..
With Ronaldo its just a matter of time before you ungreatful fans start to be thankful towards him and hail him as one of the greats.
Is it because he is not from the British Isles that he dont deserve the legendary status?
Bullshit!
I dont love Ronalso that much anyway. But seriously i do think he earns it.
One more thing, you all starts to look at Tevez and condemned him for not being greatful.
But look at how you are condemning Ronaldo and not being greatful towards him.
I am a united fan, but i think right now the majority of United fans = Tevez.
I just finished watching the United Ronaldo tribute video (via Red/Rant / 101 Goals) Stunning!! Anyone who can’t say “thanks CR7 and Viva Ronaldo” after watching that isn’t true blood United for me.
Dave, what is the link to that video?
He is a legend don’t kid yourselves. So called fans are like a girl who can’t make up her mind one day she says she loves you the other day she says she’s hurt for this and that and she’ll never see you again.. and later she calls again talking about the beatiful memories we share
In my view The Times sums it perfectly by listing Cristiano Ronaldo at Number 50 in its Top 50 Manchester United players. He did not hang around long enough and had been bleating about Real Madrid far too long in my opinion to go down as a true legend.
Mark Robins is No.49!