Comments on: Don’t Point The Finger At Us, Fergie! - Blame Fans, Players or Manager? http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/ a Manchester United blog Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:51:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1653 Tom F Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:00:42 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1653 HIS COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE, HE DIDNT SAY THE FANS WERE BEING TOO QUIET. INSTEAD OF SEEING IT AS A DIG AT FANS, MAYBE IT'S A DIG AT THE OVER THE TOP HEALTH AND SAFETY RULES IN PLACE IN ALL STADIUMS WHICH I'M SURE HE DIDN'T MAKE-UP. MAYBE AT THE OVER THE TOP SECURITY WHICH STOPS FANS IN SOME AREAS STANDING OR CHEERING, HE NEVER MADE THAT UP EITHER. HE IS NOT A STUPID MAN, SUPPORT HIM, HE WANTS THE BEST FOR OUR PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS. HIS COMMENTS WERE MADE ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE, HE DIDNT SAY THE FANS WERE BEING TOO QUIET. INSTEAD OF SEEING IT AS A DIG AT FANS, MAYBE IT’S A DIG AT THE OVER THE TOP HEALTH AND SAFETY RULES IN PLACE IN ALL STADIUMS WHICH I’M SURE HE DIDN’T MAKE-UP. MAYBE AT THE OVER THE TOP SECURITY WHICH STOPS FANS IN SOME AREAS STANDING OR CHEERING, HE NEVER MADE THAT UP EITHER. HE IS NOT A STUPID MAN, SUPPORT HIM, HE WANTS THE BEST FOR OUR PLAYERS AND SUPPORTERS.

]]> By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1640 Tom F Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:50:29 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1640 I genuinely think he is rooting for a good response from our fans, who can be quiet on more occaisions than loud. He knows that every little thing will count to retain our title because Arsenal are looking very much like us last season, this is going to be the biggest battle for years. He only mentions the fans negatively on points few and far between. Fans and Players respond to eachother but the thing is when things aren't going well on the pitch fans seem to go a bit flat when they are needed to craete atmosphere the most. Away from home, the following supporters travel because they are full on passionate and will make lots of noise at home its a mix so the fans can either be generally quiet shy people or not used to the atmosphere. The papers will make a fuss about anything they can, lets just hope Fergie doesn't break wind. They'll have a field day! I genuinely think he is rooting for a good response from our fans, who can be quiet on more occaisions than loud. He knows that every little thing will count to retain our title because Arsenal are looking very much like us last season, this is going to be the biggest battle for years.

He only mentions the fans negatively on points few and far between. Fans and Players respond to eachother but the thing is when things aren’t going well on the pitch fans seem to go a bit flat when they are needed to craete atmosphere the most. Away from home, the following supporters travel because they are full on passionate and will make lots of noise at home its a mix so the fans can either be generally quiet shy people or not used to the atmosphere.

The papers will make a fuss about anything they can, lets just hope Fergie doesn’t break wind. They’ll have a field day!

]]> By: Patricia http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1639 Patricia Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:44:54 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1639 Fans who can attend games, even sporadically, do not appreciate how lucky they are. I would give my firstborn for a chance to attend every home game. I would sing out loud and proud, and who cares if I look follish? We need to make a lot of noise next match and make Sir Alex smile. Don't overlook how intimidating it can be for an opposing team to have to walk into that wall of sound. But on the other hand, his attack on the fans smells suspiciously of an attempt to deflect attention from the team's performance, which needs to elevate a notch if we are to repeat. Fans who can attend games, even sporadically, do not appreciate how lucky they are. I would give my firstborn for a chance to attend every home game. I would sing out loud and proud, and who cares if I look follish? We need to make a lot of noise next match and make Sir Alex smile. Don’t overlook how intimidating it can be for an opposing team to have to walk into that wall of sound. But on the other hand, his attack on the fans smells suspiciously of an attempt to deflect attention from the team’s performance, which needs to elevate a notch if we are to repeat.

]]> By: craig mc http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1635 craig mc Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:24:34 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1635 Mike S - you make sense with some of your comments on Fergie!. My point is, that Ferguson doesn't lambast his players publicly, or the Glazers or any of the United board, SO WHAT MAKES IT OKAY TO LAMBAST THE MANU FANS ON NATIONAL TV. He doesn't seem to mind making us a national debate does he?. The chairman of the independent United supporters - IMUSA, has blasted back. calling Old Trafford ground A POLICE STATE, where supporters are manhandled and thrown out for standing up in excitement to cheer the team on, and then are threatened with losing their season tickets if they do it again - B*******. I loved Fergie, but he has publicly humiliated ManU fans once too often now for my liking. We're not his puppets to be wound up mechanically whenever he feels like attributing blame for the lack of atmosphere on TEAM DEAD DAYS. RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!. Mike S - you make sense with some of your comments on Fergie!. My point is, that Ferguson doesn’t lambast his players publicly, or the Glazers or any of the United board, SO WHAT MAKES IT OKAY TO LAMBAST THE MANU FANS ON NATIONAL TV. He doesn’t seem to mind making us a national debate does he?. The chairman of the independent United supporters - IMUSA, has blasted back. calling Old Trafford ground A POLICE STATE, where supporters are manhandled and thrown out for standing up in excitement to cheer the team on, and then are threatened with losing their season tickets if they do it again - B*******. I loved Fergie, but he has publicly humiliated ManU fans once too often now for my liking. We’re not his puppets to be wound up mechanically whenever he feels like attributing blame for the lack of atmosphere on TEAM DEAD DAYS. RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!.

]]> By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1634 Tom F Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:50:05 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1634 That was not a question to anybody in particular, just a retorical one.. I just think we should support him, as when he goes that stability would be a concern of mine. That was not a question to anybody in particular, just a retorical one.. I just think we should support him, as when he goes that stability would be a concern of mine.

]]> By: Mike S http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1633 Mike S Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:38:35 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1633 Spot on Scott!I cant afford the season ticket at Old Trafford so I have to rely on getting to 8-10 games a season. Its always struck me that sitting behind the goal makes you feel part of a better atmosphere, but in the north stand it is usually quiet, apart from tier 3 which gets rowdy!anyway, fergie needs to think about what hes saying, but I think he definetly planned to say it to make a point, as he said it to MUTV and sky. The papers had a field day today going on about the lack of atmosphere, but without being bitter, I swear that the Anfield atmosphere is the same as the one at Old Trafford. With everyone sat down, it is hard to generate much noise, and this whole thing about the Kops roar is utter bollocks nowadays. You can guarantee the Stretty will always make some noise, and I doubt the atmosphere was as bad yesterday as at the Lisbon home game, which I thought was very poor. Anyhow theres no need for Fergie to go on about it, and he does not seem to have the fans interest at heart when it comes to the Glazers and ticket prices. Spot on Scott!I cant afford the season ticket at Old Trafford so I have to rely on getting to 8-10 games a season. Its always struck me that sitting behind the goal makes you feel part of a better atmosphere, but in the north stand it is usually quiet, apart from tier 3 which gets rowdy!anyway, fergie needs to think about what hes saying, but I think he definetly planned to say it to make a point, as he said it to MUTV and sky. The papers had a field day today going on about the lack of atmosphere, but without being bitter, I swear that the Anfield atmosphere is the same as the one at Old Trafford. With everyone sat down, it is hard to generate much noise, and this whole thing about the Kops roar is utter bollocks nowadays. You can guarantee the Stretty will always make some noise, and I doubt the atmosphere was as bad yesterday as at the Lisbon home game, which I thought was very poor. Anyhow theres no need for Fergie to go on about it, and he does not seem to have the fans interest at heart when it comes to the Glazers and ticket prices.

]]> By: Tom F http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1632 Tom F Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:38:29 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1632 Do you think Alex Ferguson has lasted as manager at Old Trafford for over 20 years just because of his sucess in winning the club trophies? Not at all. He has remained at the helm of one of sports toughest jobs by sticking by his decisions, showing great balance in those decisions and supporting all the correct foundations Within our club to keep our club heading in the right direction. Old Trafford is nowhere near as loud as it could be due to a number of reasons, I think one of them being the amount of our worldwide fanbase that come all the way to Old Trafford to watch their beloved team play but don't make much noise themselves. New Years hangovers couldnt have helped either, but my point is not to have a go at Sir Alex himself, I am sure he had a good few thoughts in private about the Glazers, about Old Trafford become seating only, but that's him and he has a job to do in which he is trying to give his players a lift after ANOTHER disruptive Xmas, with the allegations against Evans and he is trying to get a response from the fans in the same way he'd get a positive one from his squad of players. I do think he has come out with that comment as he does so about 3 times a season, I don't think he's being harsh. He also comments on the fans when the are loud, it does boost the players. Do you think Alex Ferguson has lasted as manager at Old Trafford for over 20 years just because of his sucess in winning the club trophies? Not at all. He has remained at the helm of one of sports toughest jobs by sticking by his decisions, showing great balance in those decisions and supporting all the correct foundations Within our club to keep our club heading in the right direction.

Old Trafford is nowhere near as loud as it could be due to a number of reasons, I think one of them being the amount of our worldwide fanbase that come all the way to Old Trafford to watch their beloved team play but don’t make much noise themselves. New Years hangovers couldnt have helped either, but my point is not to have a go at Sir Alex himself, I am sure he had a good few thoughts in private about the Glazers, about Old Trafford become seating only, but that’s him and he has a job to do in which he is trying to give his players a lift after ANOTHER disruptive Xmas, with the allegations against Evans and he is trying to get a response from the fans in the same way he’d get a positive one from his squad of players.

I do think he has come out with that comment as he does so about 3 times a season, I don’t think he’s being harsh. He also comments on the fans when the are loud, it does boost the players.

]]> By: Salford red. http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1630 Salford red. Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:29:13 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1630 A new year and a another chance for Fergie to have is annual pop at us. I sit in North stand lower and it was/is very quiet. However it is no worse than every other premier league ground. The reasons for the lack of atmostphere in football grounds is a natural reticence by most people to leave behind the normal customs and conventions of modern life and sing loudly and passionately in a relatively confined space. This tendency used to be offset by the fact that in the past people could stand and for whatever reason this encouraged a group/gang mentality which transended social coventions . Now, because of factors beyond our control, we sit down and passively consume our football like any other modern “leisure activity.” Premier league stadia is ergonomically designed like a fast food outlet. You pay your money watch the "show" and go home. Least us forget we are customers. Participation is not encouraged. To hear Fergie bemoaning the exisistence of day trippers and silent supporters whilst remaining steadfastly loyal to the Gimps reigme is pretty sad. It is those who epitomize the ruthless pillaging of the soul of football for profit, not us. Such specious and clumsy comments meerly give ammunition to the myth makers in the modern media Fergie professes to despise. Maybe if such comments continue we should start making our own ill judged comments about that fucking horse. A new year and a another chance for Fergie to have is annual pop at us. I sit in North stand lower and it was/is very quiet. However it is no worse than every other premier league ground. The reasons for the lack of atmostphere in football grounds is a natural reticence by most people to leave behind the normal customs and conventions of modern life and sing loudly and passionately in a relatively confined space. This tendency used to be offset by the fact that in the past people could stand and for whatever reason this encouraged a group/gang mentality which transended social coventions . Now, because of factors beyond our control, we sit down and passively consume our football like any other modern “leisure activity.” Premier league stadia is ergonomically designed like a fast food outlet. You pay your money watch the “show” and go home. Least us forget we are customers. Participation is not encouraged. To hear Fergie bemoaning the exisistence of day trippers and silent supporters whilst remaining steadfastly loyal to the Gimps reigme is pretty sad. It is those who epitomize the ruthless pillaging of the soul of football for profit, not us. Such specious and clumsy comments meerly give ammunition to the myth makers in the modern media Fergie professes to despise. Maybe if such comments continue we should start making our own ill judged comments about that fucking horse.

]]> By: Eddie http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1629 Eddie Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:28:27 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1629 I think all the players were tired yesterday. Ronaldo, Vidic, Rio, Evra and Tevez has at least played 3 of 4 games in the last week. They looked careless and tired, but the most important thing yesterday was to take all three points. We did that and they played great football at times. The last minutes was torture and that agonises me more! We should manage to score at least three on a side like that with the team we played, but some players just ruin it, like Carrick and some passes from Nani came behind the player. If we had countered with Ronaldo not being so desperate to score a goal of the season contender, we would have been talking about witch goal that was the most beautiful one. The first, second, third or fourth. Even fifth if we hadnt been so unlucky to hit the post twice. But Fergie comments about Glazer might only be because he wants them to give him money to buy Anelka or Berba! The comments about the crowd was wierd to read because, I sang with full voice and almost everybody roared and shouted, and I thought the atmosphere was `OK, not dead! I didnt see Fergie singing either and yesterday he was a part of the crowd. I think all the players were tired yesterday. Ronaldo, Vidic, Rio, Evra and Tevez has at least played 3 of 4 games in the last week. They looked careless and tired, but the most important thing yesterday was to take all three points. We did that and they played great football at times. The last minutes was torture and that agonises me more! We should manage to score at least three on a side like that with the team we played, but some players just ruin it, like Carrick and some passes from Nani came behind the player. If we had countered with Ronaldo not being so desperate to score a goal of the season contender, we would have been talking about witch goal that was the most beautiful one. The first, second, third or fourth. Even fifth if we hadnt been so unlucky to hit the post twice. But Fergie comments about Glazer might only be because he wants them to give him money to buy Anelka or Berba! The comments about the crowd was wierd to read because, I sang with full voice and almost everybody roared and shouted, and I thought the atmosphere was `OK, not dead! I didnt see Fergie singing either and yesterday he was a part of the crowd.

]]> By: Anekin http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1628 Anekin Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:09:29 +0000 http://therepublikofmancunia.com/dont-point-the-finger-at-us-fergie-blame-fans-players-or-manager/#comment-1628 Im really worried this season for our so-called star-studded team. Unlike last season, we're a bit insipid this season, and fans cannot be blamed for that. I fear about the lack in desire this season, i really do. What do others reds think? Im really worried this season for our so-called star-studded team.
Unlike last season, we’re a bit insipid this season, and fans cannot be blamed for that. I fear about the lack in desire this season, i really do.
What do others reds think?

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