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Why no alterative keeper ie Lindegaard.
No Carrick?
Vote early and often lads! Show our players we have the best support!
Voted for ROM, but the player categories aren’t worth it. Lampard is a candidate but Carrick isn’t?
Voted for the blog, great to see we are way ahead…….. Will look into other categories later
Costas
That’s a joke!! Carrick has been head and shoulders above Fat Frank this year!! That man gets fuck all credit but fuck it, we love ya Michael!!
Costas / Mike
Not sure why you’re both getting worked up on Carrick, what’s he done? He’s rubbish
Vote for WillieRedNut as best poster on RoM!
I want to vote for Amy Macdonald
Vote for Herbie Hide for best glass chin!
I want to vote for Cyrine, hot Lebanese babe surely to be my wife soon!!
http://www.pics-site.com/wp-content/uploads/Cyrine-Abdel-nour-2011-12.jpg
Saw lindie play for the reserves last night he really impressed me again he seem so confident. I think we got 2 really good keepers.
Nice choice Cedars..;)) Wouldn’t mind joining her on the hen night…..
@Cedars u won’t be shaging her because my arse would be in the way.
Where is Michael Carrick??? He’s been our best player this season, no doubt! It would be a joke if he won’t be in the European Championship this summer, but I wouldn’t be surpised if he does’nt. SICK!!!
keano99 / booandman
Now now fellas, early bird gets the worm springs to mind, so hands off!! ha ha
Hmm the managers press conference is again on Thursday – a day earlier than normal. Is Fergie planning another 2 day break away before the Swansea game? Is Ireland next I wonder…They’ve been to Scotland and Wales. Personally I think its a load of rubbish and a fukin piss take! What’s the fucking point?
Michael Carrick = Most under rated player in the league
Scott Park = Most over rated player the premier league
Give me Carrick over that yard dog any day of the week.
I love Roy Keane.
NRD – If you are off Sunday let us know and meet for a pint with some of us.
King Eric
Have you voted for Parker yet?
Clap your hands if you love Roy Keane
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NRD
I am going a gay bar with King Eric on Sunday if you facny a pint
NRD
I am going a gay bar with King Eric on Sunday if you facny a pint
keano99 – Yes mate Lindergard looked decent last night and made two good penalty saves. Solid keeper. Weird reserve side last night. No keane, Tunni , etc. All returnees from loan like Brady , King etc.
OK so here it goes. I know this off topic with the thread but I’m having serious difficulty dealing with Monday night’s result. What the fuck was Sir Alex thinking with his team selection. I mean what the fuck. I love the man, he’s a genius, a legend and long may he stay in the job but that doesn’t mean he’s beyond criticism.
There can scarcely have been a United fan on the planet that didn’t scratch his or her head when they saw the team sheet. Of all the possibilities I went through in my head before kick off, I didn’t envisage such a team selection. This is nothing against Park, the poor lad hadn’t starting a game in so long I’d forgotten about him as an option. No Valencia, what in the name of God was that about, it’s not like he doesn’t do his job defensively. Giggs in the starting line up, I had considered this but changed my opinion about starting him when I read some common sense posts on this site. I refuse to blame one defender because I thought they were all outstanding on the night (granted Jones could have done better in the attacking third). The fact is if you invite on so much pressure something like a goal from a corner kick is bound to happen eventually, I don’t care if you’re Chris Smalling, Nemanja Vidic or Paolo Maldini.
I’m afraid I’ve lost all hope now, simply because it’s out of our hands, and I consider myself to be a fairly optimistic fan, remaining so even after the Everton result. I simply can’t see City not winning their two games now. I don’t rate Newcastle as highly as some.
Sir Alex we are all forever in your debt, and you’ve earned the right to make mistakes like Monday night a hundred times over, but that’s what it was, a mistake, plain and simple.
Apologies all for being so morbid, I believe I’m currently stuck in stage 4 of the 5 stages of grief, Depression.
UNITED!!!!!
Giggs – Ha ha. The gay Lime Bar. Quality. Yes mate put 30 votes in for Parker and wait with baited breath for his perfomance tonight. I love “Scotty ” Parker.
byron1970 – No apology needed pal. I think most of us pretty much feel the same .
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Giggs12 & King Eric
I thought you both had that B&B booked in Brighton this weekend?!
Cedars – Said to my old man after the game, Keane would’ve had Toure for breakfast. If you think of big Pat at Arsenal? Keano is the only one who could keep him on a leash. Handled him most times. Most other midfielders were intimidated. Keano never was!
Cedars, you can marry her matey, I just want to be her farewell performance on her hen party surrounded by all her hot girlfriends ( who are more than welcome to join in..;) )
Willie
I reckon Fletch and Phil Nev would have kept that lanky fucking cart horse quiet!!
Fuck. No Fergie in the most improved manager? I shaked the computer, held it upside down and everything, thought there was something wrong with the site. But no….no Fergie in there, what the fuck!!! Is he the benchmark and that´s why u can´t vote on him to be the most improved? Yes he is the enlightened, the special one, the old fart, Darth Vader for the good side. Guess the right answear on that question of the quiz must be Pardew then? Otherwise it was a walk in the park.
The right answears; DDG, Evans, Tony V, Rooney, Fergie.
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Clap your hands if your love MG!
Best goalie MG
Best defender MG
Best midfielder MG
Best striker MG
Best sub MG
Best Manager MG Football Manager
Best midfielder not played on Monday – Valencia
Best Striker not played on Monday – Welbeck
From Twitwat: What do Ronaldo, Messi & Liverpool all have in common? They have each scored 43 league goals this season…
Cedars
You have my approval
Now whens the wedding? – I want to come
Mikey12 – Phil owned the cunt that day!
Common consensus amongst fellow school professionals and students supporting United
We will make up the goal difference!
That’s the spirit
Vote for MG poster of the year Post of the year Historical post in ROM Future post of ROM
The Cedars Devil Award for funniest poster of ROM
MG!
The Costas Kebab Award for inspirational post of the year at the ROM
MG!
The Watson Award for best partnership poster of ROM
MG Holmes!
I could carry on…
The best contributor to ROM:
Mancini issa phone a friend!
Arry Redknapp: Well Jeff I mean good luck to the man you know I’ve known him a long time and he deserves his award you know? It’s triffic I’m looking forward to giving him a phone call! He he he!
Mancini: Issa United gonna win the premiership no?
ROM lifetime achievement award:
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Sorry Giles!
It’s Uncle Woy England manager!
@Mikekelly, Cedars
It would have been easier to pick out a lesser known midfielder from that pack, but I mentioned Lampard (whom I used to like as a player about 3 years ago) just because it was the most obsurd choice. If he’s in it after the season he’s had, Carrick should be in it thrice.
I could be wrong but I really feel that the main reason why Carrick has been underrated by the media and England in recent years is due to the amount of abuse he got from some United fans. You can’t expect neutrals to appreciate you if the fans of your own club don’t.
So has everyone gone to church praying for a Sunday miracle?
Whats this? The MG show?
Cisse!
Mike12 you big gay bear you can come to don’t be jealous
Not sure I have this right, but think you lot should be hoping for Bolton to nick points from Spurs and Newcastle to nick points of Chavs in todays fixtures.
This will set up a situation were Newcastle will have believe v City and QPR will be in a relegation dog fight on final day, best if Bolton wins it to be honest since QPR will then be 2 points back of safety.
United still have to win their games but we can’t be wishing any luck on city for their run in.
You don’t have to like it, but the old adage still applies….: The enemy of your enemy is your friend.
We are United, we do what we like !
MG: Gets a big list out
I’m humbled that my fellow United fans have chosen me for so many awards.
I…
Speech cut short due to advertisement obligations.
Fletch
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
MG
We don’t need to pray mate we will beat swans, arsenal can’t catch us now
If Newcastle beat Chelsea maybe a small chance that this title is not over yet
G12G0
United are coming!
Papis cisse gives me a a bit of hope that Newcastle can get a result against city. What a baller!
Papis cisse gives me a a bit of hope that Newcastle can get a result against city. What a baller!
Hows it going, Parky?
substitute cisse NOW….dont give a fuck about newcastles top four ambitions keep the man fit for sunday pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese……….
Giggs12
You big gay love Walrus you. I’m in with bells on you tease!! In all seriousness though, where you going pre game? I am drinking Sunday!!! And I mean DRIIIINKING!!!!
I’m chilling
Just as Cisse said.
My RedNuts are now tingling about Sunday?
Definitely! Take off Cisse and Tiote now! We, I mean Newcastle, need them fresh for Sunday.
Watching the city game in Lime mate if you fancy
Too much information willie.
Hey, Dan Gosling on the Newcastle bench. Remember him?
Nice to see newcastle up. Kepp that confidence for the weekend.
Costas – Usually, it’s only Megan Fox bending over that leaves me with that sensation.
Whats with all the gay get together next weekend? Nice to see the lads ‘coming out’ as it were…
King Eric, Mike & Giggs12, I salute you fellas, it takes ‘balls’ to do that
Tiote on a yellow. Take it easy son.
@willie
On a bike hey? Same thing happens to me.
Might do that fella. I’ll see if my mate Cossy is keen too!
Willie
They must be some spider sensations
Cedars
Love is in the air
Cedars
Someone mentioned smoking some cigars…. Might have got the wrong end of the stick?!?!
Just finished voting…. Great to see united players getting the most votes
Cedarsdevil
You voted for van persie as best striker right?
Cedars – And a few dicks too!
Costas MG
Dirty minds do think alike?
Talk crap think they have it sorted as to why United are crap:
Ave Salary paid:
United……£ 64,344/week
Inter………£ 66,436/week
Bayern….£ 68,845/week
Milan…….£ 71,143/week
Chelsea..£ 79,197/week
City………£ 86,280/week
Real……..£ 90,859/week
Barca……£101,160/week
Well that and the fact that Real and Barca players pay about 50% lower tax
Giggs 12- your off to c anal street I guess
Willie
Here here
Fletch I thought the Spanish govt reigned the taxes in?
cedars – cyrine is hot but she aint wearing red mate
Mike
I guess it all depends on who’s doing the smoking mate!!
Lebomanc
As tempted as I was I actually voted for Welbeck
Modric wonder goal king Eric don’t know shit
What a goal by Roland looky Modric!
MG Cheers mate, your will do. Obviously my use of the possessive personal has left you befuddled
byron- never give up hope . they win we dont done , but lets see what happens first. Possibility of another twist yet.
King Eric knows shit
That’s Modric one goal in how many?
Isn’t it serene in the ROM?
All we need is some kebabs and drink and we’re on
redbilly
A week with me and she’ll be RED all over!!
Cedars
Impressive
Fletch
Nothing new there then!
Redbilly
Lose the c and the s mate then look what you get
Anal treet
MG
On taxes, You might be right, but that lot manages to makes a farce of FFP.
Serene? She was lovely back in the day!
Cedars
You’ve short changed yourself there!
More like one look and she’ll melt away into RED
Why haven’t we signed modric yet?!
Giggs hahaha . Be busy down here with all those abu’s mate
Cedars- I trust your not refering to a rash
Change at HT for Chelsea? Torres off for Kerry Dixon.
MG
Well I did not want to toot my own horns!! Guess you know me too well!
Fletch
As always, however I’m sure when the time comes it will bite there ass accordingly.
45% now it is whilst they were getting away with 24% as of last year if my memory is correct.
Wait till the austerity measures kick in!
Modric is the answer for me, and bale we should sell Carrick and valencia.
Bring in parker as well to add that quality we are missing
Newcastle have responded to Chelsea’s sub? Ba off for Paul Kitson.
Gareth Barry and luka modric for me!
If city draw or lose , should we go for another defensive line up
We could always sign Carlton Palmer
Wait wrong timeline
Cedars
TOOT TOOT!
Come on guys. The Modric ship has sailed. Besides, we need a midfielder that knows how to defend.
RoM worst post of the year
Cedars at 8.48 today
Cedars
I’ll toot your horns!!
redbilly
Too right!
I think we should go for
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Gay post of the year
Mike 20.59 today
redbilly
Ha ha, too right, if the bitters drop points at Newcastle we should go with a 6 – 4 – 0 formation v the Swans!!
Any chance of getting Djemba Djemba and Kleberson back too?
Now Cabaye is booked. Don’t get a red you tossers.
Of course my line up outweighs Cedars at all cost
Shit Tiote injured. Hope he can recover for Sunday but not looking good.
Its all getting nice and kinky in here………. Me likes!! ha ha
Titote off with some sort of injury?
Giggs12
I liked to thank my parents, my friends on RoM and of course Franky Howard for this great honour!
Mikel elbowed Titote apparently. Obi Wan used the force on him!
Manchester City’s title hopes have received a massive blow after they found out that Howard Webb is to referee their game against Newcastle
City getting the breaks in more ways than one. What’s next? Cisse injured?
With Spurs winning at Bolton, Newcastle have to win this.
Cedars
Are you saying pink is the new red?
Fucking typical. Wolves lost Hennessey pre city! Was kind of injury was it?
Dirty f**kers these chavs. Could do with the Newcastle game finishing now.
Cedars has pink eye.
Apologies in advance for this one ………
Boy: Mum ….Granny has prawns…… look! Granny has prawns!”
The boy and his mother walk into the living room and find Granny asleep naked on the sofa.
Boy: “See look mummy….. prawns.”
Mum: “Oh no….. that’s not prawns….. that’s your Granny’s vagina.”
Boy: “But it tasted like prawns.”
Bolton. Boom!
@Mike
I hear it was a collision with Mikel. Tiote could have a concussion and he was stretchered off. It’s safe to say that he won’t make it.
going for the award of sickest gag of the year…..
Spuds boom!
Fuck off spurs. Ronaldo misses another pen!
TonyBee – that’s horrid!
Bada boom boom Spuds!
Hearing there’s gonna be 10 minutes injury time at the bridge? Hold on loony toons!
Tony Bee
It should definitely be short listed!!
Costas
Fuckin hell! You never know? 3 days of smelling salts!!
cedars- just what I was thinking
Fat Frank comes on for Chelsea? He’s got sausage rolls in each hand! Greedy cunt!
TonyBee
You got my vote mate!! ha ha
It’s good that spurs win. Newcastle know they have to get a result against the bitters and they have the early kick off to put pressure on spurs.
It’s all inception
All going to plan so far
Then
Attack!!!
Newcastle have taken off Ben Arfa and Ba, saving them for Sunday. Ba’s got to be due a goal, has he scored since he got one against us?
10 minutes injury time! Good Golly miss Molly!
Shebangsthedrums
He hasn’t scored since I put him in my dream team. In fact, all he’s done is miss a pen!!!
Mikekelly – can you bench him for Sunday then? Cisse, YESSSSS, he’s on fire.
Cisse has done it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
goal of the season by cisse!!!!
@Mike
Lol, if it does the trick. It will be a blow if he doesn’t make it. Ryan Taylor is his replacement I think.
@Shebangsthedrums
Yeah, he scored in his first game after the ACON. And that was the last time he scored. 1 in 13. Pretty weird. He looked the part against us. Maybe Cisse has unsettled him.
I so hope Bayern win the CL, I’d love to see how Roman would take to the Europa.
I’m just chilling
Just like Cisse said
If them lot do anything against them lot then I’ll wear an honorary Cisse shirt
Inception
By the way
Relaxed and composed….Papiss Deadly Cisse!
Question – apart from leopard being a rent boy how come he is despised so much by United? I think Leopard has been a world class footballer and would even take him for a year now.
MG – honorary red
Cisse! What a feckin goal!
Be nice if it was city they were playing tonight. Could this match have shot their bolt though. Just can’t see them getting anything out of Sunday! They were pathetic against them earlier in the season, didn’t see one tackle made by Newcastle!
Fucking predicted text obviously meant Lampard
Imagine if Newcastle beat City with an Obertan goal.
I reckon this game might bring out the Italian in Mancini and he’ll go more defensive against the toon.
redbilly
Cheers!
Giggs12
Had me going for a sec with Leopard!! Personally I always admired Lampard, both on and off the pitch, excellent player and proper bloke
Newcastle’s terrible run of bad form of one defeat has come to an end with a resounding win at Stamford Bridge. Come on Newcastle.
Cisse limping now, f**k!!
Most confusing text on RoM
Giggs12: 21.39
City will smash toon no doubt about it, hope of other results will kill us lads. The fat lady has sung
Tiote out for remaining games and Cisse’ limping off. Safe to say we haven’t been lucky this season and the pitch tonight was heavy and several players will be feeling it now. Doubt Newcastle players will feel fresh on Sunday.
Everything is going against us somehow.
I just thought of a scenario where Pardew replaces Tiote with Obertan against City and the unspeakable happens. haha, help me Obertan – you’re my only hope.
Some people out there still question what a brilliant finisher pappiss demba cisse is.. 10million, what a snip!. Another double in their next match coupled with a victory would do nicely but not hanging my hopes on that.
Need to start using the laptop this phone makes me out to be a right thick cunt. Normally I’m just a thick cunt.
Fred the red- fat lady aint finished yet mate
Cisse has to be ok. He has to.
Just saw that 2nd goal. Dear lord what a finish.
Giggs12
Biggest sausage fingers on RoM
Giggs12
Tiote and Cisse will be just fine
My inception prophecy is bang on schedule
All hail MG!
xol – LOL.
Henry Winter reports from Chelsea tunnel that Tiote is fine and only has a scar on his head. Somehow I doubt that he will play on Sunday anyway.
Well, nothing we can do about it now. Ce sera sera….. Or is it cera cera?? Anyhow, what will be, will be!! But as with Norwich, I doubt Newcastle will be capable of beating the bitter fuckers! Too much to lose now, they won’t fuck up.
Just seen Cisse’s second goal? He hit across the ball from an impossible angle. Scorcher!
Fuck me Arsenal could be outed by spurs and toon, its very close.
@Fred The Red: don’t be silly about everything going against us. Yes we have had our injuries but let’s not hide behind it. If we lose the title we will have only ourselves to blame for a truly shocking defensive display at home to Everton, not Tiote getting injured.
Well done Newcastle, 0-2 win over Chavs. Should be well motivated v City.
The Enemy Of My Enemy! Get In
What a pair of goals from Cisse! Great result for them. I hope they get a result against Citeh now. I think Citeh will be scared, that’s for sure
Newcastle victory is good news IMO. Should give a lot of hope agains shity. It’s still fucking unbeliveable that we lost 8 point lead in 4 games. I really don’t feel that United deserved to win it this year, but I will not complain if we do, it’s just doesn’t seem right that a team who played decent football only for couple of months and had several very bad humiliations in one season and were destroyed in Europe will become champions. Even if we winn I will think of this season as a very disaponting one. bar the 8:2 score against arse there wasn’t a single memorable game and just too many grinding out games. Major chnages required in the summer.
You lot are as bad as Mancini with this “it’s over” rubbish. The fat lady has not sung. Newcastle are gonna throw a spanner in City’s works come Sunday. I thought we’d lose at City but City’s away form has been none too clever and they have yet to clear the final hurdle. We’ll see come Sunday.
I would love united to go after higuain
hello everyone
newcastle have a great chanse of beating shity they looked str ong,some of there player are class, Cabaye is the most impressive for me,i am certain cicce will score,i expect a draw,hope we can get 6 points
Totally agree Giggs12. Higuain would be perfect for us. Him and Rooney up top… shivers just thinking about it!
Is it too much to dream about a Rooney and Cisse partneship?
Who was the last player we bought from Newcastle anyway? Andy Cole?
off topic remember adam ljajic
he was just attacked by his coach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHIx-wELkOQ&feature=player_embedded
I’d take Cisse over Higuain. The former has premiership experience. Never been a big fan of the latter.
I’d sign Cavanni, big strong lad, scores goals against city! Perfect!
real make bilbao looks very ordinery,real champions of spain javi martinez sent off,3-0 with 15 minute to go
Cavani is out of reach Mikey! Top class, though.
Watching an old Michael Parkinson show with Richard Burton. Mid chat Byrton takes out a tab and lights up…. Oh how things have changed!
I’d take MG over MG any day.
Pardew reckons Tiote should be fit for Sunday.
Giggs. Frank Leopard eh? Ha.
Tiote will be fine and will have that fat cunt Toure in his pocket. To be honest the way our lads performed the barcodes will make a better fist of it. For Park read Ben Arfa. For Giggs horror show read Cabaye or Tiote in midfield. For Rooney who was diabolical read Cisse. Will put in better performances than our lads I hope.
God I love Pardew. Always have!
Willie. Ha. Kerry Dixon and Paul Kitson.
City at home would hammer Newcastle however generally speaking on the road they are dogshit. The Mike Ashley arena will be rocking. This aint over yet. Ever the eternal optimist.
I want to ram a title down that fucking cunt Gallagher’s throat.
Oh and 15 clean sheets for toon. They are no mugs this season.
Willie
Damn it!! Everywhere I look I get rebuffed!! Who can we have then? We need to replace, Berba and Owen!! Balotelli might be available?!
happy for cristiano,hope he can beat messi for the golden boot
Mikey – Darren Bent!
My pal Pards just confirmed Tiote will be sound for Sunday. Kick that fucking laughing with his pal Balotelli Toure cunt into the Gallowgate End Cheik!
King Eric
Love pardews spin round air punch celebration too!! Always have done! Giggs12 was thinking about which body stocking to wear on Sunday when he let his leopard faux pa out the bag !
I just had a revelation;
WE WILL WIN THE LEAGUE!
City will drop points in both games.
Congrats Ronnie, pleased for him.
I am starting to feel Cheik!
Personally I’ve never liked Pardew, but if they beat City, I’ll stop calling him a cunt that often.
Pardew is only one point off 3rd place / guaranteed CL football, and he’s an ambitious sod so its likely he’ll get something from City (very likely imo). Really don’t buy the hype about City being irresistible, especially on the road and especially when they need to chase the win. Mancini inflicted Newcastle’s first defeat but the scoreline flattered them – this game at St James will be very different. Our lads need to pick themselves and and win our remaining games. We are Champions are all. Any “ambitious” Toon wanting a move to OT this summer could do worse than turn up this Sunday.
Congrats to Ronaldo and Real. First La Liga in 4 years.
Beckham was there for the last one.
Cristiano player of the season for this one.
Probably can’t do it without a pilfered United player. Just sayin!
Imagine we would have had 20 and 21 in the bag by now if Cristiano had stayed.
But we’re United and we do what we want !
Mike. Ha ha. Yeah just meeting Giggs in the queer bar, sorry Lime bar if you fancy it then having a saunter up to Platts.
King Eric. Yeah, up for that.
Willie – deal!! £40m!!
Right, night all.
Night Mike!
Night Manchester United
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My guts cannot take much more of this season….why do utd do this to their fans every year.. last year it was going 2 -0 downt to blackpool and west ham before playing…
My head says its gone but like any UTD fan you never leave till final whistle my heart says… we CAN!!!
Please Please Mr Pardew Sir….if you win then you can have a place in Champs Lg as a reward… sounds like a great deal
Pleased for Ronnie but no congratulations from me for those horrible bastards Madrid and Mourinho. Glad they knocked Barca off their stride but I won’t be congratulating them. Tapping fucking Ronnie up for two seasons.
Oh I was joking by the way when I said I have always like Pardew. As most will know I feel quite the opposite but IF he does raise his team for Sunday I will be eternally grateful. It will go one of two ways. They hold their nerves and draw or beat City or their arses go and City hammer them. Hope its the former obviously but I hate relying on other sides but right now I will take it!
Having watched the video posted by the Scottish Wonder, I have to say that Delio Rossi should get fired tomorrow. Ljajic did react in a childish manner, but a manager is similar to a farther figure. I don’t remember Fergie kicking Ronaldo’s ass after he threw away his jacket after he was taken off against City.
Costas, I heard that Delio Rossi was fired. But maybe that isn’t confirmed. Has to be a suspension in it at the least.
Screen grab of Cisse goal.
Newcastle 2 zip over Chavs. Get in son! Let’s be having more that next week v City!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buZMkULu7ZU
Rooney tweeted he thinks it is goal of the season so far.
I love it when a plan comes together but by Sunday at 6 pm we should be be a bit closer to where we belong. We may have to play 5 up front but what the hell we will have to go for it and at least take it to the last game of the season.
Sparky will also want to put a spanner in the works if he gets the chance.
If Cisse scores against city, I think I might be changing my voting for best striker on the EPL talk awards.
Never thought i’d say this but COME ON NEWCASTLE!!!! Knowing them they will probably bottle it like all the previous newcastle teams of the past but if a team can go to stamford bridge and beat chelsea (a team who are playing out of their skins atm) then surely they can beat the bitters back at their ground! BELIEVE
“We deserve our billing,” Pardew said. “As much as Man City deserve their billing as title contenders we go [into the game] on an even playing field.“With our best away performance under our belt and if we play like we did against United at home with our fans it makes us special.”
Allow me to refer to my previous post at 19:14 where I said I’ve lost all hope. Of course there’s hope, we can still win this title. Stage 5, Acceptance.
Good night all, COME ON UNITED!!!!!
Surely the title for Mourinho tonight that completed him taking titles in all the 3 big leagues tells us he is the only man that could ever take over from Fergie. I just wonder how much patience he’s got but a duel between him and Mancini could well be the most fascinating we have ever seen in football.
Is there anyone among United fans here that prefer that the title stays in town rather than it heading down to London?
Manchester as the new power centre of english football must be something to celebrate for sure.
ajax are champions again,but in italy is not over again milan close the gap,buffon made a bad mistake that see juve lose 2 point
hope for another twist in epl, cabaye to score a wonder goal and papise another i still belive
i am praying everyday
Fred the RED
agree with you about Mourinho taking over from fergie,but mancini wil be sacked,i don t rate him as a good manager,
@Joffrey Baratheon
Everything plays a part of course but yes we have been awful this season and I haven’t enjoyed it one bit so when we played like we did against Everton when we scored those goals I did enjoy seeing us play again.
No doubt we threw it away in a way we’ve never done before. Depending on Newcastle feels hopeless and the last time I was hoping they would do us a favour was when they played Blackburn at the end of the 1994/1995 season and they nearly gave United a helping hand.
Normally I would rate Newcastle as the least likely side to be able to help us out but what is different this time is that they are playing for something that would make their season one of the greatest in a long time. I only wonder if geordies prefer United or City winning the league and my guess is they prefer City although they would love to fuck it up for City and might be a bit anti towards all the cash City have.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9242119/New-England-manager-Roy-Hodgson-targets-Phil-Neville-as-his-potential-assistant.html
good night
@iced earth
Yes of course one day he will be sacked but a part of me is hoping he will stay just like I hope King Kenny will
If City win it then Mancini will stay and maybe that is good news for us after all.
Fuck me… that is some goal!! Go Barcodes… no problems with Newcatle for me… Ashley is a dick, and Keegan was a bell end but they’re a proper team with mental fans. Hope they smash City just for the crack… I’d like to think it would do us a favour but this season it feels like if City slip up again we’ll just polish the platter and hand it straight back! Just to put us lot through the wringer again!
Forget these European wonder players who fail to perform… just buy half the Newcastle team…
Can’t fucking handle the thought of the chavs winning the Champions League… This ‘rather see an English team win’ shit isn’t for me… We don’t want anyone else with their hands on that trophy…
I wouldn’t back Newcastle to take points off Shitty…QPR have a better chance.
Without Tiote, No chance, expect the Barcodes to be spanked !
CMON UNITED…lets score 9 against Swansea
Gotta see video. I am not sure if anyone has posted this before but it is simply crazy and an ex-united player.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/pure-insanity-fiorentina-manager-delio-rossi-attack-his-own-player-adem-ljajic/
Cisse!! PLEASE do some of those against City, I hope you have a few more wonder goals in store – please please let City lose or draw against Newcastle, if we fuck up the last two games THEN I accept we deserved to lose but please, please one more chance….
Re Carrick, he has been fantastic this season but it tends to be goal scoring and attacking MF who get the awards or else real tough tackling rotweilers in defence. The problem with Carrick’s role is that it has none of that flair and drama that people like to see in England and his contribution is not always obvious. Parker goes flying into the tackles with emotion all over his face that Carrick intercepts coolly. There are no kodak momemts of his game, other than on the rare occasions he scores, so it’s easy to forget what he does and his personality is a mild one so no headlines there. Even in terms of United awards it is the guys with goals and assists or flair or real defensive bloodhounds that get Club awards and the Club loves a winger. However I think after a hiatus of one of 2 years this is the season where he has won back plaudits from United fans generally. He was a key key reason we got to over 80 points and Scholes was the other key.
@ Kevin – that is too funny, wonder what he said to the Manager to piss him off that much the old guy really pounded him, if it was Mancini he would have just taken it, waived his fluffy hair and played the guy.
King Eric @ 23:29: “City at home would hammer Newcastle however generally speaking on the road they are dogshit. The Mike Ashley arena will be rocking. This aint over yet. Ever the eternal optimist.”
THAT would be just perfect – the bitters would have to choke on their bile, the ABUs would just shit themselves, and all your pals on TalkRadio would be apoplectic.
Cisse’s two goals were magical – the first showed his two-footedness and fantastic confidence; the second left me gobsmacked. I couldn’t believe that he did – and he meant to do it, too. Simply awesome.
Justs about the best goal I’ve ever seen – and it was against CSKALondon AND it meant that the RentBoyz can only get CL footie next year by beating Bayern in Munich. That seems unlikely BUT a lot of what has happened during the last month has been wildly unpredictable.
JigPig @ 23:24: “Sparky will also want to put a spanner in the works if he gets the chance.”
YEAH ! that result might mean that they’d come second, six points behind UTD. Would that be great, or what ?
Morning reds around the world,
We all know Alan Pardew takes tips from Sir Alex,
may be time for him to pay back this Sunday?
Well, i dont think it will happen but,
what is interesting is Chelsea yet to play Liverpool away in league..
Meaning, the UCL hopes of Newcastle rest completely on their game against Bitters..
so expect Magpies to be firing..and i hope this cunt Mancini goes there for DRAW..
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If there was ever a time ti pray,
pray now for,
Ben Arfa
Santon
Cisse
Ba
Cabaye
Collocini etc
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For me, if any one can, then its Cisse and Ben arfa..
I’m still buzzing about the Cisse goal BUT an honourable mention should go to Luka Modric for his goal against Bolton – a “merely excellent” strike as opposed to something from intergalactic central park.
Honestly speaking Newcastle have a strong squad. I expect them to take some points off city. I don’t know why buy my heart as well as my mind say New castle will draw or beat city. Look Its not only city who has to win but even Newcastle will want to win.It will be a good match. Ccmonn newcastle.
Having said that I feel United should have won the tittle by now.
Ash,
we have bottled it big time..
Denton,
yup, stunning goal by Modric..
I have more hope from QPR,
However it would be bloody brilliant if the barcodes get a result. Wankini’s fluffy hair would stand on its end!
Sandeep, ash
Good morning guys!
Sandeep
Good morning mate. Absolutely we have fucked up our chances of winning #20 in a huge way. And we have to blame ourselves. It has been unlike United performance. But even now if we win the tittle then credit goes to our boys for winning it. We should not forget that we have been badly affected by injuries this season.
Whatever may be the outcome one thing is very much clear that we need new investments. I feel we will spend another 60 odd millions this time also. This squad is not good enough to challenge in all competition next season.
erik keane
Morning mate. I will put my money on newcastle to help us than QPR. With all respect to QPR I feel beating City at home is very difficult. Newcastle are a very tough side to face especially at home. Remember Newcastle will also be fighting for 3 points. They know finishing 4th may not be good enough as if chelski wins the Champs league then they will not get chance to play in Champs league (Correct me if I am wrong). They will be aiming to finish 3rd. And with their current form I will fancy them to beat City and finish 3rd.
Most assists in 11-12 (top-5 leagues in Europe):
Messi: 29,
Ozil: 23,
Fabregas, Mata & Silva: 18,
Ribery & Hazard: 17
Messi scored 68 goals this season to beat all time European top flight record of Muller..
Ash, Eric Keane – good morning pals.
Ash,
Absolutely agree that to be where we are after all the shitty injuries we have had this season, its incredible..
got knocked out of 4 cups..inconsistent performances,
Injuries to Vidic and Fletch (vital and big game players)..
we havent been at our best but still good enough to match the petro dollar cunts..
Just imagine if we play consistently and have a fitter squad with couple of additions, we will be ruling the game again..no doubt in that..
and yeah we need to bring that X factor in the team, we should start killing the games rather than throwing them in lethargically and complacently..
I take this opportunity to thank Sir Alex for getting the best out of what is there in our players..majorly for his ability to get the best out of the lads and partly to Glazers stand on spending..
We need to sharpen our tactics, esp in Europe..
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Tom C, Jonesy, Smalling, Rafael, De Gea, Evans, Danny
these all are young lads, they would learn a lot from this year..
we are fighting the league with the resources we have and obviously we cant have the spending power of Petro dollars for good as well as bad reasons..
I dont care what Media writes shit like change in Power in Manchester..my arse..
They should be ashamed to write that,
any sane man will know the injury problems we have had this season, esp in key areas..
Mancini said they deserve to win the league because they topped the table for 28 games..
fuck you..500 Millions spent and 28 weeks of table topping makes you champion?
as much as i hate to say this and it hurts, City might win it this time but i m really sure that we will be more stronger next season..
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RedNev, Van Der Sar, JOS, Brown, Scholesy – that was too much to lose IMO, we have had the impact this season..
Our primary focus should be at least a semi in next season UCL and a league win..
Some brilliant posts here and on the other thread last night…
Many of the old regulars showing up and the debates and discussions all fantastic
Some more of that please…
Possibly the upside if we dont make it this season is some of the plastic cunts on here will fuck off and then maybe the old folks will come back..and along with the good new ones the place will be rocking as it used to.
Scott – Voted for the blog pal…keep up the good work
Denton – cheers for the mention on the other thread mate…lets hope this challenge can inspire the knight of the realm one more time.
Willie -I saw you apologizing on the other thread mate….no need to. Who would’ve thought United of all teams would bottle it like this. I bet Fred (the bookie who paid out) will be getting an earful from Fergie though!
Costas – exactly my thoughts mate…WTF has Lampard done to be on the list ahead of Carrick – he hasn’t even played half the games this season.
I wouldn’t want to get my hopes up too much but I think City will be too well prepared for Newcastle because they know whats coming… Personally I have more hopes from a battling QPR on the final day provided they still need a point to stay up
By the way…I think the course of the season makes the sale of John O’Shea all the more puzzling….!
If there was no back up to Patrice Evra to be purchased why the fuck did we sell Johnny Boy who always did a solid job for us, could win a few headers with his height and score a few crucial goals against the big teams…
Absolutely baffling why we let that kind of title winning experience go…
I think its high time where we make Rafael as our No. 1 Rb. Whatever people may say about him but for me he has very much improved. Jones is not a RB. He came as a Central defender then was given the job of Defensive midfeilder and now he plays in rb. I think this has hampered his progress. No more Juggling with the squad please. Everyone should have a fixed position.
I really hope Fabio becomes our no 1 lb from 2013 season. I hope his stint with benfica make hima better player. If he stays Injury free and Pplays more than 35 games then He will come as a improved player.
Breakthrough player for us this season – Danny welbeck and De gea
Both of them has performed tremendously well. Welbeck could be a great striker in 2 years time. If he just improves his finishing then he will easily score 20+ goals every season.
De gea has also done a great job. The good thing about him is he has improved with each game. Next season he will be more comfortable.
If we win the league then confidence for both of them would rise to great level. Kudos to these two they have done a great job
I will also like to mention Johny evans. This lad has been criticized very much but he in the absence of vidic he has also done a great job. Keep it up Johny
Disappointment of the season for us- Anderson.
Really had high hope from him. He along with Clev started the season in a great fasion but After Tom’s injury Ando again became the same old player.
Injuries are also not helping him. I will give one m ore season to him. But I won’t be surprised if he is sold for 10 millions.
Either way on Sunday we win, as United are glory hunters we will just start supporting city….
My new name:
Balotelli1Jones0
Ash- Rafael has improved a lot and I also would like him to be our number 1 rb. I was quite surprised that he didn’t start against City. I also think its high time that Evra should be gradually Phased out. He has been a great ambassador for our club but his performance has been pretty ordinary in last few seasons. Like you mentioned Fabio could be the one to make lb position his own when he return from loan.
Giggsy 12,
Morning pal,
Ha ha good joke about Balotelli 1 Jones 0…
Red Devil,
Yup the usual good posts have started to come and the match day WUMS and cunts have fled..
Ash,
you are right,
it really puzzles me on why we decided JOD to let go..
coming season, we cant depend on IFs and Buts, rivals are getting stronger..
every IF and BUT will be turned in to weak links in the team,
For me,
A ball holding midfielder and a left back are top of my list, that is if Fabio goes out on loan..
I think Fabio would have played more games, the only reason i see that dint happen is because of season long injury to our Serbian skipper,
meaning Evra the new skipper, automatically starting all games irrespective of form, fatigue and game plan.,.
Vidic injury had its impact in a multiple way..
and Certainly the breakthrough has to be De Gea and Danny..they have been class this season..
I have a feeling that we will play with a different formation from next season..
We will need a free floating player..May be Nani or Young can be used..and this Eden Hazard kid linked with us is a real quality player IMHO..
letsee how it all goes out the transfer window…
Good day mate
Byron 23:44- that’s the spirit . Its one of thecreasons football is so addictive , the unpredictability. Blue celebrations at the weekend red despair . Now , a possible route back for us and a glimmer of doubt for city. If the rolls were reversed , probably the same. Fergie will be working on that momentum now. If ands it’s a slim if we win it . It would be the sweetest for me.
Come on city , sit back relax your already champs
Giggs12- organise a trip to city world arndale to collect the new shirts ?
Rafael has improved, you can see the maturity,
He is pulling out of few challenges, which he would have definitely done 12 months ago..
He has to play more games..that will boost his confidence and performance..
we already saw what a few run of games can do to him, he was brilliant in Feb mid onwards..
his partnership with Valencia was awesome..
He looks a real quality, need few touch ups but he will be ready!!!
FT Sunderland 0-19 Man Utd Brown OG 3,6,12,26,33,41,53,62,79,89 O’Shea OG 8,21,44,60,88 Richardson OG
34,68,77,90
I have a dream . A dream based on slim chances . City stumble we win by a mere point. The total dejection across Stockport . Silence, bar the shouting of James 21.
Dazbomber- quality
Sandeep
We need to change our formation. I think it 4-2-3-1 would be best.
Rafael Evans/Jones Vidic/Smalling Evra
Cleverley Carrick/Ando or Any other player we buy in this position
Valencia Rooney/Hazard Nani/Young
Hernandez/Danny/Rooney
This could be a great line up. And we don’t need to buy that many players. Just One or two quality players will do a good job for us.
And for all the hopes re city opposition. May our lads focus on not chock in the next two games
Not pinning my hopes on the Magpies just yet. They got a good result against the Renties (how on God’s green earth are they in the CL final???) but City will be a different proposition. Anyways, screw this blue twats. We need to get our job done and win the remaining 2 games by banging in a truckload of goals just to make those cunts sweat for the trophy. Sounds unlikely but stranger things have happened.
I dunno who we are going to buy but we need to buy a LB and get Paddy Evra some competition on his flank. The guy is no longer the best LB in the world. He needs to be challenged in order to raise his game.
P.S. Cisse’s 2nd goal was scrumptious.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11866/7725327/Rossi-axed-for-Ljajic-attack
Delio Rossi has been sacked as Fiorentina coach after physically attacking midfielder Adem Ljajic during Wednesday night’s 2-2 draw with Novara.
Ljajic sarcastically clapped his coach’s decision to substitute him, and Rossi responded by throwing punches as others on the bench attempted to restrain him.
Ash – I was thinking that formation for Swansea if Danny’s not fit.
DDG
Rafa, Evans, Rio, Evra
Scholes, Carrick
Valencia, Young, Nani
Rooney
We will win our remaining 2 games and so will City.
No point even having a shadow of support for Newcastle or QPR…..iissa over
Unless a unprecedented 3rd bottle job happens and we luckily win the league.
Cisse’s goal were ridiculous, the first one is over shadowed but fuck me that was a top strike as well.
Lets not get excited though, we lost the title against Everton, im not pinning my hopes on another team to win it for us!
Could Newcastle do us a favour on Sunday? They will be up for that game; maybe another twist? You never know you never know.
Rather i would see we scoring 5 to 7 goals against Swansea and NCU can draw or lose by small margin, then City will be under pressure against QPR, who are battling to stay up..
If we go into final game with -2 GD, still anything can happen…
But as i have told earlier,
we are done and dusted, we bottled it big time..
move on – 2013!!
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Afternoon Pappi..
City r shit away from home, Newcastle r going for 3 rd, it’s not out of the question that they will drop points, first goal vital , if Newcastle get it city will bomb forward and get picked off in the counter attack, we only need a draw… Come on utd…
Dazbomber
Good Morning Manchester United
19
What surprises me the most is the drop in form in the latter stages of the run in. Usually we keep it up, to the bitter end. I suspect that we overused Scholes and Carrick, without any evidence, they have seemed tired lately.
But, then again, even on points, way ahead of the pack, in the first of several rebuilding years, is pretty impressive. Yes, its disapointing, when its so close, but we are rebuilding. SAF went all out, the last couple of years trying to squeeze out another CL win, but fell just short. In doing this SAF kept the team together and went for experience. But such a run has to end and it has. We still have a great deal of “older” players left, because one cannot let all go at once, but gradually – in order for your new signings and younger players to learn from the wise and old ones.
Anyway, here we are, in rebuilding mode and we will stay here for at least 2 more years. We will gradually get better, stay longer in CL next year, maybe win the CC or FA and stay in the chase for the title like we are this year – but wont climb the summit (most likely). Players like Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Park, Berbatov. Rio and Vidic (all 30+) will have to be replaced, from within and through purchase. Thats 7 players – 3 very old and 4 old.
So we will face growing pains, unless people want United to become another rentboy team (we don’t). SAF will bring up boys from our youth and he will buy (probably) fairly young players and these players will need time, both to develop, make mistakes and learn.
What we can hope is that the boys that we bring in are solid characters, good guys that make us proud and hopefully another Ronaldo, Solskjær, Cantona, Keane in the making.
Get behind the team and the manager – they deserve it – get used to reality, it will get better and better – just wait and see!
Hope dies hard, eh?
Honest question – if we win the league because city bottle it (again), how would you feel?
a. Delighted – no holds barred. Dont care how it happens – silverware is silverware.
b. Delighted – but it will feel like we were gifted the title. Not something that we deserved 100%.
c. Delighted – but concerned that this will provide another opportunity for sweeping glaring deficiencies under the carpet
I’d probably go with (b)
Scotty mate,
Voted for the best blog,
and we are leading by 57%
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1169858-newcastle-united-vs-manchester-city-live-stream-start-time-and-more
Man to watch. Howard Webb
We talk about what Qpr and newcastle can do. We forget that slik swansea are turning up at old-trafford and they without doubt can cause and inflict major problems if we play below-par. 3 points won’t be gifted, swansea will put up a fight and united better match and surpass that. The welsh team have quality all round.
It’s a shame that united are resulting to desperation. I personally won’t place my hopes on newcastle, they could potentially choke in the match as wel but if they perform like they have done at home consistently then who knows, i certainly hope there’s a final twist in United’s favour but united do have tricky games themselves and need to step up massively for both.
Mg,
Hello mate,
iisa cedar wedding over?
thought you all attending it..
Jeet,
Hello mate,
b. Delighted – but it will feel like we were gifted the title. Not something that we deserved 100%.
NO WAY..NO FUCKING WAY
I wont say we dint deserve it just because we bottled it..
Lets accept,
with so many injuries,
with so many points to catch up,
we did catch up (Meaning they bottled it once)..
then in the last 4 games we bottled it (1 all)..
if and if, City fuck up at Newcastle, its nothing but bottling (city bottling twice)..
In no way i feel we dint deserve it,
its neck to neck, on same points, plus 8 GD, whoever wins, wins the title, and with 2 games to go, whoever wins better WILL DESERVE THE TITLE..
so you see my friend, if at all we win, i dont consider us lucky, its a hard fought championship UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES…
Except city, we have been the best club against the top 6 sides..
so you see we arent that bad either,
86 goals scored to their 88..
33 goals conceded against their 27..
maximum number of away goals scored..
maximum number of away points earned..
Least number of away defeats..
Least number of away draws..
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SO YOU SEE, IF AT ALL IF IT HAPPENS, WE DESERVE IT MY GOOD FRIEND..
Good day pal..
Message to Howard Webb
It’s is the biggest game of your life.
On Sunday you can become a legend Howard.
Your entire career has just been a build up to this game.
You can really make a name for your self.
It’s your destiny.
Make us all proud.
Do it for sir Matt, sir Bobby, sir Alex.
Do it for the babes.
Do it for the shirt.
Do it for us.
Stay red Howard. Always.
UNITED
Im a fan of evra but it’s fair to say that the lack of real competition invites complacency and makes players stagnant with their improvement. Exactly what’s happening with evra. knows more often than not, he’ll waltz back into the first team as no one in the squad is capable of challenging him, not even the aforementioned fabio who excels in some aspects but needs major work on others in order to compete, something he’ll hopefully get on loan. Evra was once outstanding for at least two or three years but he has dipped and something is missing, i think he’s in his comfort zone just like most players at the club and can’t rule out the fact he’s accumulated several games without rest, always gets himself into some form controversy (not his fault, he’s a man that stands up for himself) so all the personal stress must play a slight part but it still doesn’t excuse his form deteriorating like this.
Thirdly, the players need to defend as a team, get organised more and be harder to break down. The defensive duty should fall on players.
I just read on another forum that Harry Webb is referee Newcastle v city.
Isn’t that Cliff Richard?
*referee for*
Morning dipshits
Anyone got a link to the Newky goals v the renties?
Here’s his first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbYoeyvRtkg
And the one everyone is talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzD_kHGNn1M
And my comment is awaiting moderation… because i posted youtube links?? weird
Only the 2nd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q-Fw_2QWJE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Not bad though
mancdub
Cheers mate, bloody hell what a strike!!
Damn that physio at Chelsea is hot….. Wouldn’t mind her rubbing my hamstring as it where!
(Sorry Papii, I know you had first call on her!!)
Time to be positive, be great full for being a United fan, be great full for all the leagues and cups we have won , start thinking every day how lucky we are then our luck will change . City fans are nervous as fuck and so are there players . Keep positive and we will win the League at Sunderland
Cisse’s shit hot at the moment. It will be an interesting game on Sunday if nothing else.
I’ll be investing a few euro’s on the Geordie win as well. 9/2 is a decent price.
Good morning Reds!
Jeet, there is only one correct answer to your question at 8:42
If we win the league I will be delighted.
I do not believe for 1 second that any glaring deficiencies will be swept under any carpets, no matter where we come.
To my mind that is a silly view often expressed when we win. What that view always says to me is that the fan is more interested in other clubs players than his own. He wants to change the squad. The winning squad is not acceptable to him. This fan is never satisfied. He doesn’t trust United at all on any level. He is far more interested in his own expression than he is in United’s success. He wants recognition from his peers for his erudite analysis. His power stems not from understanding or close attention, but from flippant research on targets selected solely because he’s heard of them. That is how I see the fan who believes that United sweep glaring deficiencies under the carpet.
If we win the league I will be delighted!
My team for Swansey considering Evans And Welbeck are both out. DDG, Rafael, Rio, Christopher, Patrice, LuisV25, Paul, Michael, Ashley, Wayne, Javier.
Remember StatesideAussie mentioned yesterday that his comment awaited moderation?
Well, it is now available to read. I repost it here, as I think you will want to read it.
May 2, 2012 at 13:00 StatesideAussie says:
Mansour’s personal wealth is estimated at 20 billion, and is going up all the time. For him, spending 1 billion on Shitty is equivalent to man who has 2 grand in the bank (and no debt, and a steady stream of income), spending $100 on a night at the casino. If he wins, he’ll have had some fun, he’ll have something to brag about to his mates and he will generally feel better about himself. And if he loses, so what? He can well afford it and, what the hell, it was an interesting diversion anyway. Financially, it is irrelevant to him. With a flick of his pen, he could, if he wished, spend another $100, or even another $200 or $300, without any losing any sleep. After that, he might think about it a little more. It is, after all, just a diversion. Though of course, if it became more than a diversion — if, for example, he really wanted to prove a point — he could certainly spend even more.
So whatever some of us might think about the Glazers, their debt, or Sir Alex and his reluctance to go into the transfer market, I will say this: it makes absolutely no sense to get into a financial pissing contest with an opponent like this. None at all. Because every time you want to spend $40 or $50 or $100 million on a player, he can outbid you. For fun. For kicks. Just for the fuck-offness of it. He has more money, and he will always have more money. Money is his game, and he likes to win.
Honestly, I am dismayed at the way we have blown what should have been a safe lead ovet the last few weeks. The points dropped against Wigan and Everton — and the way we played in those matches — really hurt. If it wasn’t for those games — and earlier games in the season — this week’s result would still have been disappointing, but it wouldn’t have been quite so painful.
And honestly, coming second in the PL doesn’t cut me up. SAF has, on average, delivered us a PL title once every two years. That record is considered outrageously fucking successful by anyone with a half a brain, and so it should be. No, it’s not coming second that cuts so deep; it’s the fact that it’s Shitty who will beat us to it.
And 99% of the reason they are able to do that, has nothing to do with Sir Alex, or the Glazers, or team selections, or tactics, or anything else at Old Trafford. It is down to a man who has the means and the desire to spend a billion, or two billion, or 3 or 4 billion if necessary, to buy a team and an infrastructure that is capable of winning the PL.
So I go back to what I said earlier: there is no way to compete against that using financial means. Any attempt to do so would be an exercise in utter futility. It would also, no doubt, lead to our financial ruin.
Which means the only way it can be done is by using players that fall under the radar of someone like that. That means we have to make the most of the players we’ve already got, and it means that the players we buy will have to be those that he’s not interested in. If we go for a headline player, he can gazump us any time. With a phone call. If we bid 50 million, he can bid 60. If we match 60, he can go to 80. Or 100. Or whatever.
That is how it has been since Sheikh Manure bought Shitty. And, unless the FFP rules kick in and actually have some teeth, or Manure gets bored, that is how it will continue to be
I’ll do admins job this week.
Lump on Newcastle. The best value bet of the weekend.
If anyone’s interested Big Wave has a very good chance in todays 14:40 at Lingfield
And COME ON U FUCKING GEORDIES!!!!! BOSH!!! Howay the TOON!!!!!
@Albert Ross & Sandeep: Ok, I get the message – i’m being a negative cunt now
Usually, I’m a positive cunt
To myself: Repeat 100 times – “I will be more positive, and never give up on United”
Remember StatesideAussie mentioned yesterday that his comment awaited moderation?
Well, it is now available to read. I reposted it here, as I thought you would want to read it.
Unfortunately, my submission is now awaiting moderation! Perhaps it is all the dollar signs.
Anyway, who knows how soon it might become available. I suggest reading it.
Find it now on the Reactions thread at 13:00 if you are so inclined.
Jeet
I have to bow to your superior knowledge of yourself. If that is your view, who am I to argue?
Kidding!
Actually, you chose b) and I was criticising c) so no, you are not negative in this instance!
‘When a player gets to 30, so does his body.’ – Glen Hoddle
‘I was a young lad when I was growing up.’ – David O’Leary
‘Home advantage gives you an advantage.’ – Bobby Robson (RIP)
‘It’s the only way we can lose, irrespective of the result.’
- Graham Taylor
‘We must have had 99% of the game. It was the other three per cent that cost us the match.’ – Ruud Gullit
‘It was a game we should have won. We lost it because we thought we were going to win it. But then again, I thought that there was no way we were going to get a result there.’ – Jack Charlton
‘We keep kicking ourselves in the foot.’ – Ray Wilkins
‘I have a number of alternatives, and each one gives me something different.’ – Glenn Hoddle
‘Of the nine red cards this season we probably deserved half of them.’
- Arsene Wenger
‘It wasn’t going to be our day on the night.’ – Bryan Robson
‘Very few of us have any idea whatsoever of what life is like living in a goldfish bowl,except, of course, for those of us who are goldfish.’
- Graham Taylor
‘If you can’t stand the heat in the dressing room, get out of the kitchen.’
- Terry Venables
‘Lukic saved with his foot, which is all part of the goalkeeper’s arm.’
- Barry Davies
‘Strangely, in slow motion replay, the ball seemed to hang in the air for even longer.’ – David Acfield
‘The Italians are hoping for an Italian victory.’ David Coleman
‘Peru score their third, and It’s 3-1 to Scotland.’ David Coleman
‘If that had gone in, it would have been a goal.’ – David Coleman
Classics there CedarsDevil, nice! Some from commentators here:
“Never go for a 50-50 ball unless you’re 80-20 sure of winning it.”
Ian Darke
“Dumbarton player Steve McCahill has limped off with a badly cut forehead.”
Tom Perrie
“Strangely, in slow motion replay, the ball seemed to hang in the air for even longer.”
David Acfield
“Celtic manager Davie Hay still has a fresh pair of legs up his sleeve.”
John Greig
“That was only a yard away from being an inch-perfect pass.”
Murdo Mcloud
“I’d be surprised if all 22 players are on the field at the end of the game – one’s already been sent off.”
Jimmy Greaves
Wow CedarsDevil! So quick on the draw!
fucking hilarious!! LMAO
My personal favorite has to be Jack Charlton’s!
Albert Ross
Well it goes all the way back from my days in the Wild West!! ha ha
Ray Wilkins
“The World Cup is every four years, so it’s going to be a perennial problem.”
Gary Liniker
“Hearts are now playing with a five-man back four.”
Alan McInally
“He hasn’t been the normal Paul Scholes today, and he’s not the only one.”
Alvin Martin
Was that West Beruit, CedarsDevil?
Wild is surely an understatement!
“Playing with wingers is more effective against European sides like Brazil than English sides like Wales.”
Ron Greenwwod
“He’s got a knock on his shin there, just above the knee.”
Frank Stapleton
Ahem……I did say United would lose on Monday – I felt it in my water!! I also followed it up by saying City would only draw against Newcastle next Sunday.
Now, I’m no Mystic Meg but as long as my second prediction is as good as my first prediction we should be alright!!
Albert Ross
West Beirut was certainly wild back in the day……In fact there was a time when you couldn’t tell who’s dick was up who’s ass!!
Hello Cedars and Alberto Rossi,
Cedars,
heard you got a hot Lebanese babe? wedding and all eh?
Jeet,
You are and will always be a positive cunt
cheers pal
I just came across this by chance.
http://www.footballfancast.com/2009/12/football-blogs/happened-neil-webb#blog_item_29703
Driving a forklift
I remember his debut. We spanked Arsenel. 4-0 I think.
He scored a cracker.
Mike Phelan also made his debut in that match.
chuffer – you will be living up to your name, as we will all be chuffed when city draw!
mancdub
Blimey that was some find………Classy player was our Webb…..Spot on about his debut goal v Arsenal, was the first game of the season if I am correct and it ended 4 nil or 4 – 1
Sandy
Had to call it off mate, she was going on about exclusives and all….Could never tie myself down to just one woman, too much Cedars love to go around!! ha ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJG4K1Wlgeo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
CUNTS
CedarsDevil – I haven’t heard that expression for donkey’s years!
Sandy – Good day to you!
That Arsenal game was also Michael Knighton’s debut
(Scored a cracker at the Stretford End if I remember)
mancdub
That was the Arsenal team we all loved to hate…….. Just checked on Webb’s debut, it actually ended up 4-1
Ha. Michael Knighton the skint clown. What a prat.
Norman-85
Ha ha ha, and did he not look half stupid that day!
Cedars your correct it was the first game of season. Can’t remember if it was 4-0 or 4-1.
When he returned from his injury there was a short spell where he and Robo were the perfect midfield partnership. Shame about the injuries.
Norman good call
We all sang we love you Knighton we do.
As he juggled his balls.
Fucking hell that was embarrassing.
Here’s to hoping!!!!!
How times change, eh? Knighton was our ‘sugar-daddy’ – £20 million for the entire club – Fergie wouldn’t pay that for a decent midfielder these days
That was a scorching day – both the weather and the football, we completely outplayed the champions on that day and we all had our hopes up – still, the FA Cup win at the end of that season was the start of something wonderful for us all – to the happy memories of the 80′s, when you could still get into the Stretford End for £2.50 (When I where a lad….)
Always look on the bright side of life……..
Somethings aren’t destined. Knighton wasn’t destined to be a multi-billionaire…
Knighton ended up buying Carlisle from an Irish guy I know.
This guy is also an acquaintance of Peter Kenyon.
He once told me that Kenyon said the reason United didn’t try harder to sign Ronaldinho is because ” That ugly cunt wouldn’t any shirts. ”
what a PRICK
@mancdub: Which is an interesting point, because I have generally observed that United generally don’t have too many honest-to-god ugly players. The dippers on the other hand…
ohh hell, I forgot luke chadwick (didn’t know who he was, but cedars asked me to check him out, and since then the nightmares just won’t go…
)
Jeet
As its been pointed out on here. Phil Jones can pull some faces.
There’s an old saying that goes “if you pull faces and the wind changes you’ll be stuck like that”.
Doesnt even start coming close to Spearing, let alone Skrtel
New thread for Jeet – “Who is the ugliest footballer ever?”
), followed by Quasimoto Beardsley or the greedy Argentinian with Jonjo Shelvey (can you see a pattern here?)
I’ll kick off with Ian Dowie or Dirk Kuyt (Ian Dowie’s illegitimate son
Frank Skinner quote
” Ian Dowie looks like a melted gremlin”
Don’t mean to be unduly offensive, but tevez, with the new rim beard and haircut genuinely reminded me of the pictures I had in my General Science textbook in the 3rd grade. The chapter was titled “Evolution”
Even if newcastle beats city, are we able to get a result vs swansea & sunderland. Not being a fucking spoiler here…..i’m not sure man. è lads muz have been broken after throwing away 8 pts lead…..
Rim beard
Did he get that from riming Kia Joorabchian?
Guns don’t kill people, banana skins do.
Tardiness is an ugly trait.
Ugliest player ever? Gotta be our own, Luke Chadwick.
Profound. Almost Confucian.
Women can have platonic relationships. Men don’t even understand the question.
Hard to mate when you’re late.
Married lives thrive if men dive while wives drive.
But from Malta to Gibraltar they falter on the alter when she slips on his halter.
If newcastle do us a favour (a massive IF) then mike ashley’s belly should be carved out and made into a statue. Anyone agree? or is the potential gratitude pushing it?
Hells bells Sammy, what an idea! A statue of Ashley’s flabby undertone would be outstanding!
Fat Fwank is moving to a new house. I fucking knew it!
Leopards do change their spots.
samuel – Quality pal. A statue of Ashley’s belly. Fuck me !
I see Willie is back to his normal self…!
Albert Ross
Wordplay at its best…missed your writings mate
Samuel: Fantastic mate
Red Devil – cheers good sir! For you then, a comment like a cat on a hot tin roof:
- – - – -
Hi Ena – Easy tiger. Why so catty? Lion is like drawing the shorthair and cheetahs are always spotted. Have you no pride? The cat’s out the bag now, you are not the cat’s pajamas at all. Hurting people’s felines is moggy. I’ll slap you with a catsuit and you will take the long catwalk of shame, with catcalling pussies littering your cats-eye of the tiger as it cat-scans cattily.
Fighting like cats and dogs high on cat with something the cat dragged in while the cats away could end up with you sleeping with the catfishes.
Catcall it a day, my manx mate.
Fucking place has gone to the dogs.
Woah mate…!
I’ll be dog-gone!
Pardew to be Fergie’s cat’s paw?
RoM at its best, i.e. being a mad house!
If Pardew scratches city’s chances, I will be doggone delighted.
Some heavy petting going on here.
Put a leash on it, before the cat gets among the pigeons.
King Eric
Nice to see you’ve finally shown us all how you really feel about Pardew!! ha ha
He he he ha ha he he ha hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Wonder what Jimmy James makes of all this?
Someone stole my neighbours bin? Told him to take mine as it’s rubbish!
I actually thought about Jeet’s question recently. How would I feel if we still managed to win the league. I don’t think much would change, really. Winning the league is an incredible feat, no matter how you do it. Of course some will point towads the 2 defeats against City. However, we also beat them twice this season. And if you take away the derby matches, United had the better record against the rest of the teams.
I am sure the media will question whether we were the better side, but there would be no doubt about it in my mind. Liverpool beat us 6-2 on aggregate when we won the 08-09 title. No doubting who was the best that season though.
But before we get carried away, we still have 2 games to win. Evans won’t make the Swansea game and that’s a blow. Likewise for Welbeck. Hopefully we will have both of them back for Sunderland…
There’s too much mime on mime violence in the world.
That’s a throwaway line WillieRedNut, unless you were talking trash.
Thanks Costas, that is a good perspective. We do deserve the title we hope to now win.
I guess that most supporters in England agree with that.
@Costas –
06-07 lost twice to Arsenal
07-08 lost twice to City
08-09 lost twice to Liverpool
So yes. Shit happens.
It would still be a feat, it would be 20. No matter what people said after Everton and City it would still be mission accomplished BUT SADLY with unattractive way of playing the game. The main concern for me.
Most mime-on-mime violence is a copycat crime.
Sir Alex has always been a supporter of the mimer’s….
I wouldn’t for a second say that we dont deserve the double because whoever/whatever did the double on us. Just the fact that we bottled an 8 pt. lead – unthinkable and against the grain of everything the club and The Great Man stands for…anyway, no doubt one could also argue that if those matches had been played in a different sequence, it wouldn’t appear the way it is now, and I’d probably be praising the club for battling it out against injuries and petrobillions. All ifs and buts, what remains is to win the 2 games, hopefully by healthy margins, believe in United, and pray for the barcodes:)
Worlds worse tipster. Mancdub
Fucking Big Wave.
Your jobs safe admin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYLFVIYsXOs
Wonder whether it was the reason we let Ljajic go ?
No Albert? Copycat mime!
Costas
What the fuck was that about?
He’s hard to keep Ronaldo out of the mimelight.
Sorry I meant Corea
Too much time on the Internet today.
My eyes are going
Double-trouble action reaction has xerox to do with mimicry.
That’s along the right mime…….
Does anyone know what the Ljajic fight was about?
Evening Reds around the world,
here is my analysis of UTD and City against top 5 this season,(Liverpool considered above Newcastle).
City – 0 points – 7 conceded – 1 scored.
Arsenal – 6 points – 3 conceded – 10 scored.
Chelsea – 4 points – 4 conceded – 6 scored.
Spurs – 6 points – 1 conceded – 6 scored.
Liverpool – 4 points – 2 conceded – 3 scored.
20 POINTS OUT OF 30( 8 away points out of 15).
17 goals conceded(11 away goals conceded).
26 goals scored(9 away goals scored).
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Now, City against top 6.
United – 6 points – 1 conceded – 7 scored.
Arsenal – 3 points – 1 conceded – 1 scored.
Chelsea – 3 points – 3 conceded – 3 scored.
Spurs – 6 points – 3 conceded – 8 scored.
Liverpool – 4 points – 1 conceded – 4 scored.
22 points scored out of 30 (7 away points out of 15).
9 goals conceded.(6 away goals).
23 scored(13 away goals).
####
against the top 5,
we have NOT lost any game except Derby, where as CITY have lost at Arsenal and Chelsea.
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It is a margin of 2 points and 8 goals conceded extra,
we all know from where those came? its the fucking Derby game..
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Costas,
Hello mate,
let me know if i have missed something…
You mock the blues right out of the horn, Mime
You charm the husk right off of the scorn, Mime
You make your fans feel like the king, Mime
You fake the world, we’re living in sin, Mime
mancdub
liajic was subbed, so clapped at the manager and then the punching began..
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Time to cook dinner my friends,
Catch you ROM in coupla hours time..
Cheers
Mimes like oranges. Nothing rhymes with mime, except lime.
Hmmm, I wonder if the lads have started getting dolled up for their mime at their lime bar.
I guess that some at the Lime are looking for a carbon-copy of the exhaust they first loved.
I hope the lads aren’t getting back-pressured, they might find themselves in a hole.
Up shit creek without a paddle, yet an oar stuck firmly in.
Albert Ross- Thanks for the prompt re statsides 13:00 post . Hit the nail on the head for me. For the sheik, city is mere window dressing, a talking point over dinner .
Red Devil @ 06:42: “the course of the season makes the sale of John O’Shea all the more puzzling….!”
Right. I guess that the “plan” was that J O’Shea’s minutes would be covered by MrJones.
John’s versatility has been missed on the left, on the right, in the centre, AND in midfield !
Selling him – rather like the earlier deal with Phil Neville – was part-Glazernomics and part-sentimentality on SAF’s part, giving his loyal soldiers a chance for full-time footie AND a big pay-day. WRONG !
United have distanced themselves from Eden Hazard. Fergie said, it’s not the right mime to talk about players. In further news, Roberto Mancini has impressed an interest in the Lille players. Mancini has refuted suggestions they’re trying to hijack United’s potential deal for Hazard by saying, “issa been interested in Eden Hazard since he was an embryo in his mothers womb”
Sir Alex Ferguson hit back by saying, “I’ll tie that fucking scarf around your neck, and give ya a Scottish kiss you wee bastard”
hello ROM, its been a horrible fucking week fucking horrible. but i am red till i die and until those fucking classless fucking cocks over at the towel arena win the league i will keep believing, my hate for that twat Gallagher fucking mop head drone fag infested fucking voice cunt whom is spermicide his mother should have swallowed has reached new heights, i wouldnt fucking wipe my fucking Bog Bowl with his head if it was covered in Shit and piss Cunt. with his shit music and his pretend to be a fucking hardman image he wouldnt bate a bag of fucking walkers crisps fucking skinny anorexic drug taking floppy headed prick, CUNT walks around like he has a Butt Plug shoved up his ass.
Fat Le Tissear you sir a big nosed mouldy teethed basterd cunt didnt pick ONE united player in his team of the seaosn!! what a fucking clueless Bird Beak face, he had Sergio spikey disproportionate headed blockhead in front of Rooney Gareth Gappy ahead of fucking everyone! what a prick.
WillieRedNut – I am lolling around on the floor! Brilliant
redbilly – a pleasure for that prompt. It is brilliant Stateside comment that needed to be read.
Vilhelm 28 @ 08:41: ” Players like Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Park, Berbatov. Rio and Vidic (all 30+) will have to be replaced, from within and through purchase. Thats 7 players – 3 very old and 4 old.”
Let’s not look too far beyond Sunday ! It “could” be a pivotal day.
About your list – the only guy that I can see who is likely to be playing full-time in 2014 is Michael Carrick; his style is built on game-intelligence rather than physicality. Dimmy is on the way out, Park might join him; Rio, Giggs, Scholes, and even Captain Evra (who is not on your list) and Captain Vidic might not be able to play at the top-level for much longer.
Added to your list you should mention the departures of Ronaldo, Tevez (!), Hargreaves (!), Edwin, RedNev, DarrenFletcherinho (?),, Wesley Brown, and John O’Shea, that’s a lot of talent to replace in the next cycle of renewal/transition.
I’ve written that SAF is a man who won’t stay on past his best-by date – and that he will be the guy who makes that decision. On the one hand, I’ve written that if – somehow – TheLads can win #20 then he might just slip away rather than subjecting himself and the players to relentless speculation and upset; but, on the other hand, he’s a man who doesn’t back away from a challenge AND replacing all that talent is a huge challenge.
The next fortnight could be very, very interesting. Enjoy the ride.
Gaz- regardless of being a city supporter, Gallagher is a leary obnoxious prick. Hard man . Yeah I bet.
Hatefull cunt.
redbilly – Yes mate just read Statesides post at 13.00 on the previous thread and it is spot on.
gaz – Fucking hell pal, you amuse me. Fat Le Tissier. Mouldy teeth. Where do you get these things from mate? “Sergio spikey disproportionate headed blockhead”
@redbilly
hes on my list of Cunts unfortunetly for the world there is no cure for being a cunt!
King Eric – Hello mate. Accurate reflection of the situation in my opinion. As for financial fair play, anyone who thinks he will not have a way around it is fooling themselves. They are bred to expect to get what they want regardless of cost. Bet their are envelopes flying around like no ones business.
@king eric
just shoots out of my mouth i just say what i see and think just natural i guess!!
i fucking hate those fucking scrawny piss ants the gallaghers and as redbilly says they are nasty characters outside of being shitty fans anyway, as for Fat Matt i lost it when i saw his fucking team on sky fucking scandolous selection- btw check out his teeth they are fucking filthy mate!!!
I think that the Financial Fair Play regulations are not aimed at stopping owner’s from pumping money into football. That is money that football will never see if they are stopped. Money that will then not filter through to the big-wigs at Fifa and Uefa.
No, the regulations are solely designed to prevent money going out of football.
When clubs are mis-managed by greedy owners, they fail. At the least, they become worth far less on the open market. This equates exactly to money going out of football. Money that the same bigwigs are focussed on. Money that the Financial Fair Play regulations are designed to protect.
It’s the golden rule. He who has the gold makes the rules.
Where is the advantage to preventing city’s owners from pumping in hundreds of millions?
Other owners will just have to match the upped ante. More money coming in.
Preventing the money leaving because of badly-run clubs is their concern.
Not the money coming in.
“Gee whizz. Your shirt sponsorship is far too much. Are you planning to spend that on all the things that we get a cut of? Desist foul cretin! Your cash will curry no favour here! We don’t want your money, it is immoral.”
Albert Ross- thanks for the pointer re money going out of the clubs . Its the change in dynamics over a very short period thats hard to accept due to nothing more than a huge investment. Personally, If city had developed of their own accord fair enough. How much their influence will benefit or hinder the league only time will tell.
Maybe thats the way forward. allow your club to wallow in mediocraty for several generations and wait for a bored oligarch to invest mega bucs. Maybe on day we too can don fancy dress to a derby as a cossackor sheik.
Start spreading the news, we support them today
We want them to be a part of it – Newcastle, Newcastle.
Those vagabond blues, are longing to bray
Right through the very heart of us – Newcastle, Newcastle.
We want to wake up in a city, that doesn’t weep
And find we’re king of the hill – top of the heap
Those bitter light blues, are wanting to say
They’ve made a brand new start of it – come on Newcastle!
If you can stop them there, We’ll beat them by a hair
It’s up to you – Newcastle, Newcastle!
Newcastle, Newcastle
We want to wake knowing that city will always weep
To find that we’re number one, top of the list,
Cream of the crop at the top of the heap.
It’s up to you – Newcastle, Newcastle!
redbilly – I sincerely hope not!
Dressed in a sheet? I’ve not the legs for it!
redbilly – do you agree with my view on the FFP regulations?
They are couched in rhetoric to appear as a playing-field leveler, but that is not their aim.
Albert Ross- on reflection yes.
Albert Ross – I hear what your saying. But most clubs just don’t have the resources to keep up with the clubs with rich owners. That’s why they borrow beyond their means to keep up and when the glory doesn’t come or doesn’t pay, they’re left with big debts. Even if city won the champs league for the next 5 years, ( won’t happen) it wouldn’t cover the current running costs of the club. They’ve set their wages very high and they’ll only keep rising unless thay go for youth or a lesser class of player. The FFP, is there to protect city and chelsea too. If their owners walked out, where would they be? Has we’ve seen, club ownership is very random, football and especially the EPL is in vogue right now, but it won’t be for ever and rich businessmen will move their money elsewhere. I do think owners will find ways around FFP, but they will also have to cut spending and at least show some intent to play within the rules.
redbilly – that is the splitting-image of my view, mirroring it perfectly.
Just watched highlights from home game against chelsea in 08/09 season.. really miss the way we used to attack and defend with pace and tenacity.. hopefully with some fresh blood we could get the red machine rolling again!
Albert Ross – I couldn’t hear what you were saying, could you mime it for me?
I’ve not read ALL the comments – just most of them. What has astonished me has been the absence of a call for “WeWantDimmy”. It seems to me that DannyTheLad’s injury (and non-availability) and Chicharito’s rather low-key performances this season would give SAF the chance to bring back Dimmy from the wilderness to which he has consigned him.
AND wouldn’t it be astonishing to see Dimmy do it ? A real “fuck you” to BerbaHaters and BerbaSceptics, too.
FFP are an effort to prevent bankruptcy in football. Rangers, Leeds, Portsmouth being proven cases in point. The FFP rules are couched in language that sounds like it will stop major investments, but that is not true. If you want to just hand over 50B to a club as a gift, I assure you no one will stop you. But billionaires are not charitable people in the main. As was laid bare by the Portsmouth debacle, every penny given was given as a loan. A loan that wants repaying. FFP is about NOT saddling clubs with debt that is unmanageable. As with a bank loan to a person, “unmanageable” must be viewed differently depending on business models and success. Clearly, Uniteds debt seems manageable at current levels of return. But FFP will be one tool to stop the increasing pressure on the Rangers, Leeds and Portsmouths of this world, and stop same from happening to the WestHams, Blackburns and etc.
shebangsthedrum- the bottom line is, with the kind of resources the mega rich have at their disposal, hiring the very best legal advice for one. There is always a way around rthe rules. It a part of the game we have to contend with.
@denton
It crossed my mind about suggsting it, but what’s the point of starting him against Swansea? It’s not just the fact that he’s leaving (same probably goes for Scholes if you think about it). Berbatov has been out of the loop for far too long. Look how it backfired with Park on Monday…
Shebangsthedrums – everything you say, I agree with.
- clubs like chelsea or city might be left in the lurch
- other clubs overextend in an attempt to match the big-spenders.
- these scenarios ruin or cripple clubs, who devalue dramatically.
So the FFP are introduced, to ensure that debts are not thrust on the club by over-ambitious owners who buy players on high value contracts with wages that remain the Club’s responsibility. Other clubs will not be able to overextend by matching the big spenders. Rich owners will win the siverware, encouraging other rich people to become owners and to pump money into one of the clubs that would have over-extended if not for FPP.
If you can’t match the stakes, you lose the pot.
Who gets the pot is not important to the big-wigs, as long as the money flows in.
And no money flows out.
WillieRedNut – herewith a precis in mime:
… was that good for you?
Shebangsthedrums, City does have a business model. But make no mistake, part of that is to take market share from United. If they win the league, you will hear much less talk from the Pele’s of this world asking the question: “I didn’t know there were two teams in Manchester?”
City are changing the dynamic. 10 more years of this type of investment and you might see many more sky blue shirts. Just saying. FFP is not an effort to stop home grown teams from falling out of the top flight. When you go to the grand national, you don’t see many owners that couldn’t afford a Bentley. Just sayin.
If United loose to the Blues, the failure of the Glazers to invest will be very starkly real. They will take years, if ever to regain what they lost in these few weeks.
Not saying anything negative about the club, and am still of the opinion that we have done well to be in second. But I am not so naive as to fail to grasp what it at stake with City. And FFP will not save us from that.
gaz
By far RoM’s best foul mouthed ranter, I really look forward to your posts mate. Always end up reading them a few times just to make sure I do not miss anything……. Bloody brilliant
Fuck, just left a massive comment on the City Reactions thread, just realised nobody’s checking it. Bastard.
Albert Ross – Your miming is rhyming!
Roy Keane revealed this morning that his famous Labrador, Triggs died a few weeks ago.
Rest in peace Triggs.
theboogeman – Great post on the reaction thread. Sir Alex will go on his terms.
WillieRedNut – your timing is subliming.
RIP Triggs Roy Keane’s mate.
Here is the story under item 3
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/03/the-fiver-jose-mourinho-madrid
@Fletch I understand your viewpoint but I don’t think 10 years is enough for City to take a substantial chunk of United’s Market. Due to the sheer power behind the Brand, it would have to be 20 years of Totally City domination and total United collapse for that to happen. City would also have to find a way to appeal to the hundreds of millions of fans outside the country who only know Manchester United as a football team. I don’t see that happening EVER. FFP is excellent because it means that clubs will now have to spend what they earn and we all know that there is NO CLUB in England that can smell United if we decide to spend what we earn. I am not worried about city. when you invest billions of dollars in a club success is expected so I am not surprised by how good city have been but as for them Dominating United off the field as well? NOPE. not gonna happen in my lifetime.
@Fletch
RIP indeed. I know how it must feel for Keane right now. Triggs was probably the only living creature that never felt his wrath..
I know what you’re all saying and I’m not naive enought to think this will spend the end of city and they’ll go back to mid table mediocrity. But why would UEFA even introduce the idea of FFP if they don’t intend to see it through? Would do they expect to gain from that? They would lose what little credibility they have. City will no doubt benefit for many years to come from the investment they’re getting now and success will lead to increased revenues. But there’s no way they could sustain this type of investment for 10 years, they will never make enough money to cover that. Chelsea are 9 years into Ambramavich’s era and I don’t see world domination for them. Wasn’t it his aim to make Chelsea financially viable on their own steam by 2010? Who’s to say rich businessmen will continue to chose football to invest their money in? Football’s in vogue at the minute, but It is a trend and trends don’t last. As for Utds downfall, that old happen anyway after Alex goes. Look what happened to Liverpool and they didn’t have rich oil baron owners to moppets with.
Evening reds around the world,
Most away goals in top 5 leagues:
1. Ronaldo – 22 – no surprise there.
2. Messi – 15.
3. Ibra – 14.
4. Robin Van CEDARS – 13.
5. Cavani – 11.
When we speak of global appeal or presence people need to realize something, United are not top of the pile solely because of their success on the pitch over the past 20 years or so……
United were or have been in this position since the 60′s, albeit without the marketing and shirt sales that goes with it these days. To most global fans United is just that i.e. the name, the name Manchester United which has had its followers around the globe for over 6 decades…
What will always give United the edge is the romance associated with the club, some may think this is naive but its not.
Demba Ba accepts a deal with Manchester United fan
Newcastle United player Demba Ba, has accepted a deal with a Manchester United fan on Twitter promising to score the winning goal against City,
Jordan McDonald (@BigMacca93) asked him “You score the winner against City and I’ll get you on the back of my Manchester United top #dealornodeal #BA19″
Demba Ba simply replied with deal
Although this was all tongue in the cheek, we are now heavily reliant on Newcastle doing us a favour after blowing a 8 point lead at the top of the table. Cisse has been in red hot form for Newcastle at the minute, stealing the limelight from Demba ba, but could he be the man to save United titles challenge?
He’s made that bet with the wrong striker! Cisseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
”With the greatest respect to women, football is the most beautiful thing in the world.” -Slaven Bilic
Cedars – agree mate. Look at city now, I don’t see the natives flocking to the emptyhad, hence the name, unless they play Man Utd of course.
Shebangs… Spot on with your comments ofcourse. Fully concur with the sentiment. Just feel that you are assuming FFP means protecting something traditional. The only thing FFP will try to do, is add some balance. There are estimates that 20 clubs in englands top 2 leagues could go under in 10 years. That is what FFP is trying to avoid. It might “look” like this is to protect the fans, but it is really to protect the reputations of the leagues. When Portsmouth and Rangers failed, the fingers are pointed at the FA and EPL and SPL for the farce of the Fit and Proper test. FFP is just trying to put a bit of spine behind Fit and Proper.
Alas… FFP won’t fix any of the problems that you are worried about.
You a Stone Roses fan then?
@Danny. 10 years was a metaphor. Agree to disagree, but a bit of a piss take to quibble about 10-20. The issue is Going from only one team in Manchester to two and the business model of both will be world domination.
Can we agree, Its polemic ?!
Irish Hero,
evening mate,
I dont care even if Krul scores
TOP SCORERS:
SPAIN: Messi 46 – Ronaldo 44 – Falcao 23 – Higuain 22 – Benzema 20
ENGLAND: Van Persie 28 – Rooney 26 – Agüero 22 – Yakubu/Dempsey/Ba 16
ITALY: Ibrahimovic 26 – Cavani 23 – Di Natale 21 – Milito 20 – Palacio 19
GERMANY: Huntelaar 27 – Gomez 26 – Lewandowski 20 – Podolski 18 – Harnik 17
FRANCE: Giroud 21 – Nene 17 – Hazard 17 – Lisandro 15 – Aubameyang 14
HOLLAND: Dost 30 – Luuk de Jong 23 – Malki 21 – Mertens 18 – Guidetti 18
PORTUGAL: Cardozo 27 – Lima 28 – Hulk 24 – James 24 – van Wolfswinkel 23
Shebangs… Just realized. FFP just puts another F in F&P
FFS
Cheers
We have won the final two games of the season in seven of their 19 seasons in the Premier League.
Its fucking time to make it 8th time…
Sandeep – I don’t care if Pardew’s ego knocks in the winner!
We only need them to draw….
Me thinking about Newcastle helping us is already very queasy. Totally reliant on someone else? Not nice at all. We’ve lost points not from bad refereeing decisions but all down to complacency, so I’m really resigned to fate. We deserve it tbh.
Newcastle to win/draw city? Nah.
Fletch – yeh love the stone roses,would love to have seen them this summer but too expensive. I suppose that’s what having a family does. My fave band though is the Doves, saw them at Glastonbury 2003, was the highlight for me. Not sure what their football persuasion is though.
reports in germany that we have offered Kagawa 95k a week, twice as much as
dortmund
KingOSE Spot on. Pathetic much eh.
But I am a positive sort so I am in with it.
Let the blues win.
We win the next to by 10 goals to nill and its sorted
Even if the barcodes (Obertan ) and rangers (Sparky) do a bit of work for us,
we can always put it down to Fergies genius.
Stealth United all the way then!
Not with a team like Monday.
Gday Sandeep
Sorry didn’t reply mate got to school and they needed me in on my day off
So of course I volunteered to save the world accordingly
Evening Manchester United!
Personally Shearer can come and knock in the goals if it means we get a chance again.
And Ginola in midfield
Wait forgot my man:
Faustino Asprilla
Silent but deadly
cedars- agree with re global appeal not founded on winning alone. The history Busby babes George Best ect appealed globally. The club was known worldwide prior to the premier league as was Arsenal , Liverpool amongst others.
If we went a decade without a title win or a CL qualification let alone final, would the real fans UK based or not flee the club?. I very much doubt it . If anything , a period of adversity ( though I do not wish it upon us) often leads to an increase of support/ camaraderie.
MG,
no problem mate,
good evening…
I’d flee the club and set up MG United
Wayne Rooney’s spectacular overhead kick against Manchester City has been voted the greatest goal in the history of the English Premier League.
Rooney’s strike, which sealed the 2-1 derby victory for United at Old Trafford in February 2011, was on the shortlist of 10 goals in that poll organized by the Premier League to celebrate its 20th anniversary.
Quality mime!
in MG united,
Cedars will be the experienced player,
experienced in stalking hot women
Sandeep
At MG United, only the sexiest women in the world will be allowed in
And we’ll have our photo shoots on the beach
Evening reds
Manchester United are close to finalising a move for Borussia Dortmund playmaker Shinji Kagawa.The Japan international has refused to agree a new deal with the Bundesliga champions and has his heart set on a move to England, according to the German side’s president.Michael Zorc said: “Shinji is going to play in England because he has officially rejected our offer of a new contract. Kagawa, who has scored 13 goals in the German top flight this season from 30 appearances, is set sign a three-year deal at Old Trafford.United are willing to part with around £7m for his services as his contract expires in 2013, with the 23-year-old expected to earn around £5m-a-season.
SheBangsTheDrums – Hi love. Was listening to Doves album Lost Souls just this morning. The man who told everything, Here it comes and Cedar Room superb tunes. Just a pity they are City fans or Jez is. They used to be a little dance outfit called Sub Sub early 90-91. Ha.
Willie – Loved your comment about Pardew’s ego knocking in the winner!! Nice one.
Cedars – Hello pal. You well? Too right. United have been HUGE for decades now.
My mime meme may maim my memory, but I bet a bit of batter that better barcodes will bite the bitters butts as batty balotelli baits the baying brayers and bites the proverbial bullet.
At MG United:
Cedars will be officially Woman scout
with Sandeep redbilly Fletch 
Watson has to be my assistant!
It’s a tough call on the food department, do I put Costas in charge as chef or chief medical officer?
Other roles please certify – I’d def. have Mike and James as coach 1 and 2, King Eric Balaji Kings Jeet as Communications department
Down Under Aussie – International relations with Zibbie wayne Albert smartalex Ross
Willie can just be Willie
All the United ladies can be in charge of United earnings Global department
Giles as Club President
I’ve missed a lot – feel free to fill yourselves in –
Gaz
You owe me an apology mate!
Does anyone else think all this hype surrounding Newcastle now will put the mockers on their chances of beating city? I just feel, now everyone is expecting them to get something against city, it’ll be a bit like the after the lord mayors show.
Evening King Eric..
King Eric – quality album, shame about Jez being a blue, but at least he keeps fairly quiet about it.
I don’t think I’ll make MG Utd. 36 years old and after 3 kids puts me well passed the hot stage. I’m sure it’d get my husband interested in football though.
somewhere read that we are preparing for 100 Million transfer spree
If Glazers read it, they will shit in their pants for sure
MG
Consider me in, with that role I will do it for free…….. Would like shebangsthedrums as my honorary adviser though
MG, HaHa Quality backroom staff son. Just don’t make any of us pull you off a player. No mater how many fingers he puts up.
Not on camera anyway!
King Eric
Never realized the Doves had a song about me mate!
Shebangsthedrums
Evening my friend,
Hang on, MG will create a role for you
Dear MG – you do opine so philosophically, that I can very easily, understand your imagery.
You will always be, poetically and so truthfully, a man on RoM that all want to see,
produce marvels among mediocrity.
You is a very nice word-worker, i does climb a spire to you.
Cedars,
hello friend,
first of all MG is generous enough offer you a role,
and to top that you would want an adviser..
its too much mate
We cant give you that opportunity..
You are a one man army, gotta do it on your own
Good night everyone..
Time to sleep..office in 5 hours time
First thing tomorrow morning..
Cheers
United FTW
Mike
You’ve left me very curious with regards to the apology from Gaz! I am sure there’s a catch, do tell
Night Sandy
Cheers Cedars. I am a nurse, so if there’s any nursing requirements I’m the girl.
Cedars
He’s a right twat. I was driving to see the chiropractor and was reading his rant! Was pissing myself. Looked up to see a ford focus stopped at the end of a traffic jam! Nob end here goes right in the back of it. Police, firebrigade (engine was smoking) and ambulance all arrived!! All i could think of is galaghers haid cleaning shit out of a bog! Police now doing me for driving without due care and attention!! Laid up at home now! …… Cheers Gaz you funny fucker!!
Sorry for your troubles Mike!
Fletch
Shebangsthedrums
Head of United megastore in the Asia Pacific.
Sound good?
There you go Sandeep that was easy
Old friend.
Feeling is mutual
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Hayley McQueen as my personal advisor
That position is without doubt!
Cedars
Request away – whatever you want just fill it in
Cedars
Has a Devil of a following
Mike
That was some funny shit mate, sorry! Like Billy Connolly would say ‘terrible at the time yet FUNNY’
Not sure whether to read back the rant by Gaz and laugh again or simply read your post again!!
@MG
Definitely chief medical officer.
queue the nurse gags…….
“Oh come on,” the nurse said, “It’s just a little prick… You’ll hardly feel it!”
The fucker lied to me. He had a massive cock and I couldn’t sit down for two days afterwards.
Tell the truth Mikey? You were having a wank!
The nurse came up to my hospital bed to check my pulse.
“Wow.” she said. “It’s much faster than usual!”
“That’s not my wrist you’re holding, nurse.”
Costas
Will nominate Shebangsthedrums to be your assistant, at east she’ll know what she’s doing!! ha ha
I asked the hot blonde nurse working on my ward for a blow job the other day.
He told me to fuck off.
Costas
Well then it’s settled
Will just have to teach Willie how to do the Kebabs alongside his world famous pizza recipes
TonyBee
Funny as fuck mate!
Doctor! Doctor! I’ve swallowed my tongue!
Well nurse, I’m a dentist, but I’m sure I can fill that space for you.
See ya’s all later, his lordship is calling.
I thought rag was an insult. Didn’t realise it stood for reds are great .
Cedars/Willie/Albatross
Thanks for your concerns boys. Heartfelt and witty. Don’t know if I’ll be able to afford my season ticket now, it’s cost me a fortune!!! Like you say Marro, look back at it soon and piss myself. What with United’s collapse and the collapse of my bonnet and windscreen it’s been a shitty April/May!!
evening Cedars…my old mate….still at your Mums or are you back home…
Holmes as your assistant I suppose the body searches duties will be mine….
excuse Miss Mcqueen walk this way ….haw haw haw….
cos you wont be walking this way later haw haw hawwww…..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-target-shinja-kagawa-816633
Reportedly worth around £7-10m….BARGAIN.
Tut Tut Shinji is a bad boy
I hope we sign in him to replace Park who’s influence has diminished since the CL final. SAF doesn’t even rate him anymore, that City defeat was probably a career saver, plus he did sign that 2 year extension only last year so we’ll get £5m easy for Parky….love the fella, great lad….but always has had his limits.
Meanwhile that lad Hazard has got 19 goals and 14 assists….decent for a youngster,,,but it is a french league, I hear Chamakh and Gervinho was stars over there
Fuck Newcastle….I’m backing relegation sniffers QPR to grab a result !
Yes MG! Pizza for the RedNut!
That bad Mikey?
Willie
Skint a Rooney!! Was saving for it but gonna have to use that money for my car. Was already spending an arm and a leg to get my back sorted! Hey ho, onwards and upwards. I’m sure something will come up to save the day. Lottery tomorrow!
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1492825_manchester-uniteds-anderson-is-bait-for-the-new-cristiano-ronaldo
Mike
It is really terrible that this has happened. I think it’s too much for 1 Red to bear.
We can each pay 10 pounds into a fund for you. Then we will each have season-ticket-time-share at Old Trafford, with you as our on-the-spot representative. Agreed?
Has Ravel Morrison made the bench once for the ‘ammers ?
Shebangthedrums
Attend to thy Lordship – we have big plans to write up
Easy Watson
Mike
You got us – you ain’t got nothing to worry about mate
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Willie
Get you chef whites on – you have been summoned
Papii
The Red Knight Rises
Coming Sunday after city collapse
Sorry Mike, but what IS really funny, is reading your comment that you are spending an arm and a leg on your torso!
Albatross / MG
Haha, cheers lads! A mikekelly12 fund!! No worries pal, I’ll sort it, just been one if those periods where EVERYTHING goes wrong at the same time. Still breathing and laughing though so can’t be all bad!
Our Ginga Ninja is EVERYWHERE!!
The most important model for pricing of an option in derivatives is called “Black Scholes”
Hee hee boss was wondering why I was happy at work today
Personally I think we should now get James to become:
Dr Doogie “James” Howser MD
Albatross
Haha. I know, didnt see it. This has probably already been posted but read Will Keane is off to Middlesbrough on loan. Hope he comes back like Danny!
Nurse, Nurse, may I see my baby now?
- Yes sir, but please understand that your child has not been blessed with the all the gifts we hope for our children.
I don’t care what’s wrong with my child, surely it can’t be that bad? Is my baby missing limbs or vital organs? What is the matter?
- Well sir, I’m sorry to tell you that your baby consists only of an eye, nothing else.
It’s my baby! I will show it the world!
- Sorry sir, but I’m afraid it’s blind.
MG
Eric Cantona to Wayne Rooney:
“If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal… you become something else entirely. A legend, Mr. Wayne, a legend!”
Nani to Bebe after the poor lad suffered a knee injury that ruled him out for months;
“You are as precious to me as you were to your own mother and father. I swore to them that I would protect you, and I haven’t.”
Several posters have posted concerns that if United manage to win the league there will be complaints that somehow didn’t “deserve” it.
So the essential issue is
“If United win the league, how to hold our heads high as a United fan”
Here are 3 posible scenarios and the logical solution:
Scenario 1) Skyblues win all remaining games by modest margins
Solution: We win our remaining games as well but by mega margins and take the title by goal differential and all England bowing down to our goal scoring prowess as Rooney overtakes RVP and wins the Golden boot by a confortable margin.
Scenario 2) If either Newcastle with Obertan or QPR with Sparky take points, we could go on to win on points
Solution: We claim this is Fergie’s finest hour, a master stroke, and that Stealth United won us the league.
Scenario 3) Any combination of scenarios.
Solution: We simply fall back to the standard: We are Man United, we do as we want
Sorted
@cedars always my pleasure sir!!
Papii
MG Jnr : Did The Red Knight save you daddy?
MG No, I saved him.
MG
Last night an MG saved my life….. Last night an MG saved my life from a broken heart…..
Selina Kyle future Mrs Papii:
How could you want to raise children in a city like Manchester where it rains and pours and there are grey skies all the time?
Papii Wayne
Well I grew up in Manchester, and I turned out All right.
MG
Mike
We’ll be saving each other all the time now mate
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinji_Kagawa
Wayne Rooney wins Best Goal in EPL first 20 seasons!
Sensational!
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/rooney-stunner-wins-20-seasons-best-goal.html
“Newcastle is a very difficult place and they are playing well,” Sir Alex told reporters.
“They have got two games left. If they win their two games they win the league,” he said.”People talk about goal difference, but it depends how many they win by. Say they win 3-0 on Sunday, their lead would be 11 and they still have QPR at home.”That would be impossible.”
http://www.monitor.co.ug/Sports/Soccer/Man+United+fan+dies+after+Kompany+goal/-/690266/1399254/-/15qhcccz/-/index.html
very sad,rest in peace
@Fletch I agree it is polemic.
Not sure if this thread is alive or not – Denton – agree. I have not said that we have lost the title, we are still alive and can win it.
What I am saying is that we are in rebuilding mode and to be in the race is a great job by SAF. Unlike other teams that end up mid-table, SAF keeps us in the running every year. It’s even more impressive given the players SAF has and needs to replace, all world class. I can’t see anyone doing it like he has.
As for City and other teams with endless money, I think SAF has adressed this, when he said ” we need to bring more boys up from our youth” because he cannot get into bidding – like with Nasri.
So, it will be a bumpy ride, we will see new names, some (or all) unknown – but our boys want to play for us and no one else. Thats a good start!
Done.
I hope to see Demba Ba, and Ben Arfa goals against City tomorrow and score board to read 2-0, plus 2 goals from Rooney and 1 from Young sink Swansea