Patrice Evra has told Arsenal some home truths following their fairly embarrassing two-leg performances against Manchester United.
Whilst Arsenal are often praised for their beautiful football, they haven’t seen the title for five years and haven’t won a trophy for four.
Evra questions what the point of playing beautiful football is if you can’t win trophies, claiming United manage to play attractive and win competitions. The third goal we scored at the Emirates last night is testament to the great attacking football we play, with just a handful of inch-perfect passes, taking 13 seconds to get the ball from our goalmouth to theirs.
“Today we have proved again that we are a strong team,” said Evra last night. “They all spoke about this beautiful game of Arsenal, but unlike them, we allowed fewer goals and won, in addition to playing well. Today, the result was just, we also could have won 3-0. In football, beautiful play is not everything. We are 11 men, they are 11 children; this is the difference. We are much more mature and have more confidence.”
Ouch.
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Pat got very excited.But we still have to play with them in one more game and it could be a big one.And they will have Arshavin for that,so we can’t underestimate them.
Ha! Thats brilliant!
‘we are 11 men, they are 11 children’.
Peopel forget that the last trophy they did win, they didn’t play beautiful football anyway, if there was any justice in football, it would be 5 years without a trophy.
its not even a put down
its just a fair round up of the match
we are 11 men, they are 11 children! CLASSIC!
Perhaps what he is trying to say is United had more experience going in to the game which refelcted in our performance.
Arsenal have some very good prospect who will no doubt mature in to a very good team.
You can try and make that into a put down Scott but most Arsenal fans would agree with what Evra said, it’s an entirely accurate analysis of our team.
It’s true that we sometimes enjoy the football our team plays but most Arsenal fans have been totally frustrated by our side over the last few years. It’s only the media who go on about our beautiful football, most fans would like to see us actually win a trophy – even the Carling Cup would do at the moment and have a bit more steel in the side.
Semi final of champions league isn’t bad. Where was he when he was 19??!
With a capital O that ouch scot!
Costas is right, we still have a vital match to come with Arsenal and they’ll have Arshavin, so provocative talk of them being ‘children’ maybe won’t look so smart in the cold light of day. Now is not the time for triumphalism. Arsenal are a far better team than our victory suggests and their time will surely come. Look at their long unbeaten run in the Premiership. I’d much rather respect their good qualities, which then make our triumph even sweeter.
well personaly i think its harsh thing to say about fellow pros really. to be fair to arsenal they still kept going even tho they were out of it
he forgot that red nosed had been spending trillions . AW was a miser.
Maybe he had no money to spend or did not want to spend.
Ashvin will be back and dont be surprised bulldog or any other player could be injured especially if the title is not decided.
Macheda is GOD hello and nice one for the support
@Gooner77
I don’t think he meant it as an insult.
I think he was referring to United having more experience than Arsenal.
The young Arsenal players will mature in to a very good team.
They are however yet to emulate Henry, Bergkamp, Viera, etc.
If the young players are able to do this then it will all be worth it.
I have to say that it is quite admirable in a way what Wenger is trying to achieve. But as you say I can imagine the frustration that beautiful football doesn’t win trophies. Playing winning football wins football. Whether that be route one ugly football or not.
I am not in a mood to wind up arsenal or its fans. So peace. I don’t think Evra should have said that. Yes, we got aided by their younger players’ slip, but we shouldn’t underestimate anybody. I still remember how Arsenal fans underestimated Ronaldo and other players few seasons back.
I think Evra should take back this comment.In essence, he might be right, but it’s not a nice thing to say about fellow professionals.
exactly costas. I dont think he should disrespect other professonals.
Couldn’t believe it that Arsenal fans were leaving after half an hour!We need to win this for Fletcher now!He was immense all game!When is stan collymore going to resign for being the worlds worst radio and newspaper pundit!Blantantly a sad scouser and anti United!Should be sacked for talking shite about our great team.
@AlphaRS
That’s what I’m saying. I don’t think Evra is being rude or disrespectful really, maybe slightly arrogant, but I am not really offended by what he said. Although I’m sure the likes of Van Persie, Adebayor and Almunia will be as they are certainly not kids. Regardless I’m sure this has been reported in such a way as to try and create a bit of beef.
Well done UTD over two legs much better than us.
I think if Gibbs hadnt of slipped over it could have been very different, but that takes nothing away from you.
However, to make comparisons on our football and success?
I don’t think your success is a fair reflection of the two clubs. We have had lots of long term injuries, and a few years ago you were saying Chelsea didn’t win the title they bought it. I think the same can be said of your lot now.
However, well done, its not your fault, good luck in the final.
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agree with costas about the comments on fellow pros.he surely said it in excitement, lol
he said 11 babies
@kidmeister
Well I felt like packing it in after ten minutes last night.
Anyway we also clapped Ronaldo off at the end, he was incredible last night.
Evra is saying the truth 11 men against 11 children. We have used this system for the past four years and we have never won a trophy. Its high time we have to accept that. Look at Asharvin at Anfield scoring four goal is a sign of maturity as an indiviual. We could have been beaten 4 – 0 save the mature Asharvin.
We lost to chelsea on the same platform 2 -1.
We cant go far with this. Some talented players might go to other teams that lookset for trophies. Adebayo to me is a useless stiker. In two games against Man U (180 Minutes) only one off target shot on goal.
Smart one Evra, you’ll probably get a nice welcome when you link up with the France squad. Prick.
Considering the fact that Sir Alex has driven Man United into the abyss by spending money, that he doesn’t have, on many different players and Wenger is managing the only well-run and still English club in the top4, I’d say our beautiful football has taken us quite far. FA Cup and CL semi with the youngest squad in Europe is pretty impressive, because with players of this age, you will se an improvement every 2-3 months.
I am fully aware that I sound like a dirty spud right now; but next year we’ll get you all. Wenger actually has money to spend now, very much unlike the rest of the top4 teams.
Aqqe – money isn’t everything. Look at Real Madrid and Chelsea. It doesn’t buy you the domination United have enjoyed for over the past decade.
The problem for your team is every time your young players get good enough, they leave Arsenal for bigger or better clubs. You’re essentially a feeder club. You’ve been ‘in transition’ for years now, yet you’re still no closer to winning anything.
i thought the arsenal board did gave Wenger money in the summer and january transfer window ?
just be sure not to get into the habit of saying “next year will be our year” like some guys from the liverpool do.
Were still paying for the emirates and losing players to wage demands, which are not above our principles. We have a structure within the club which should be followed by all.
We don’t have a wage bill that goes over 50% of Income.
We don’t buy players we cant afford. No football team in the world can justify 30M on one player, without going into funds that are unjustified by the income they receive.
There is no better club than Arsenal, bigger of course, better no way.
Our standards are being looked into as a model for the industry standards, some of the biggest clubs in Europe, (Barca, Juve, AC) have publicly stated a change in infrastructure to follow the Arsenal Model.
There is no better club than Arsenal.
COME ON THE GUNNERS
@Scott
Like I have said, most Arsenal fans would agree with that and do not buy the transition nonsense. However to suggest we are a feeder club is wide of the mark. The only players that left when we didn’t want them to were Cole and Flamini and that was due to us being unwilling to pay their wages. In both cases there are arguments for and against us coughing up the extra dough.
I’ve said it before, that as a football fan I don’t expect us to win something every year. As a Man Utd fan you have been extremely fortunate to support a club that has been outstanding for the last 15 years or so. Most clubs never reach that and I feel privileged to have seen Arsenal win the title 5 times as well as numerous cups. Last night was galling but that’s what supporting a team is all about.
Aqqe, Ferguson’s success has brought the majority of the cash to Utd plus some very shrewd business during the 90′s. The only reason Utd have any level of debt at all is solely due to the Glaziers suicidal borrowing. The club is massively profitable year on year.
Arsenal & Wenger have been admirable in their development of the club but there is a level of naivety that clouds Wengers success; a team needs balance – Young/Old, Skill/Steel, Attack/Defense etc. They are seriously lacking in achieving this balance.
I enjoy watching Arsenal for their skillful play and attractive football but I disagree with pundits who laud them as the greatest footballing side. Football, for me, is not only about silky passes and creative play, it is also about fighting a battle when it’s necessary, tactically out-thinking your opponent and preventing opposition play while creating space for your own creativity.
This really hurts. This was more painful than the 4-0 spanking we got last season.
Anyway Evra comments are true, the truth hurts but he crossed the line imo. Always trust a manc to kick a dog when its down.
Gutted.
http://www.petitiononline.com/qwerty09/petition.html
Sorry thats the petition to UEFA on Fletchers ridiculous Red!!
well done united i hope u lot go on to win it now- especially if your facing Chelsea. Evras comments are harsh but hopefully this along with a few others might serve as a wake up call to wenger. a lot of the players are simply not good enough especially adebayor but i will never call for Wenger’s head unlike some fans. go and win it in 90 mins this time united ( trounce chelsea) and up the gooners
spot on pat. just pray for fletch red card will be rescinded. maybe we can hope UEFA could deal with it, but if with FA, we dont have any chance coz lot of blokes in FA are ABU…
Where has Man U’s reckless spending got them?
Massive debt
Also don’t forget how many players Arsenal had out. Its not a great excuse because Man U are probably still slightly better, but Man U had a full strength squad and have had for almost the whole season – very few injuries.
Gallas – Vidic
Rosicky – Carrick
Eduardo – Tevez
Clichy – Evra
And also
Arshavin – Ronaldo
Not sure about that petition for Fletcher
Was it a foul? Yes – he was bringing down Fabregas as he got the ball. Definite foul – also a reckless challenge. Was it a red? I would say it shouldnt be because he got the ball, but definitely a yello? Having said that he was the last man and stopped a direct goal scoring opportunity, so technically it should be a red card. But in the interests of justice it should only be a yellow.
I don’t really think its fair to say man u have bought the title. The club has certainly spent alot of money on good players but they’ve also made players. Lets not forget that a few years ago, arsenal tried to buy the player that destroyed us last night.
I think most gooners would agree that man u is certainly a better team than us at the moment. Our greatest challenge will be to keep the team together for a couple of years so that we don’t have to rebuild every season, like this season. At the same time though, I think alot of man u fans would agree that if we do keep this team together and pick up one or two more good buys then we’ll definately challenge over the next few seasons.
Gooner – so you think we should have been awarded that penalty against Spurs then? Gomes recklessly ran out and clattered in to Carrick whilst winning the ball. Fletcher won the ball then brought down Fabregas. If that was a penalty, so was ours against Spurs.
Why hello Ghtt!
“Where has Man U’s reckless spending got them?”
Rome
“Gallas – Vidic
Rosicky – Carrick
Eduardo – Tevez
Clichy – Evra
And also
Arshavin – Ronaldo”
I can’t say I agree with one of those comparisons…..
Why not do it properly…… and compare with our injured players
Gallas – Neville as well as Rio for large portions of the season
Clichy – Brown (added to above)
Rosicky – Hargreaves
Eduardo – Tevez – I would argue he is still unproven except for reserve leagues. (lets be fair your lack of goals is down to having two shite strikers in Adebayor and Bendtner and building them up into superstars….. Bendtner actually believes he is an excellent footballer!!!)
Arshavin – cup tied isn’t injured….. before his 4 goals against Liverpool Arshavin was relatively quiet for Arsenal….hence he put his fingers on his lips celebrating his goals as if to tell people to stop talking about him being shit….
Also to say we have had very few injuries this season is a “tad” incorrect.
At one point we had the joint-highest number of injured first team players. (along with West Ham)
dave dont forget ronaldo out for 2 months at the begining of the season.
Cheers Chaos……
I think that kinda rubber stamps the arguement
“you can’t win it with kids” we did but thier is a difference between our kids (at the time) and Arsenal’s kids now . . . Their shite . . . .
goodness gracious me!!!!I can’t believe he said that …..CLASSIC
What drivel, Man U kids were in a less competitive league, and were an older squad than ours.
We have lost to many old heads, however, lets have it right. Full strength Arsenal are as good as anyone, last year Fergie said himself how unlucky we were with injuries. And this year he has said he has been fortunate.
UTD are a great side, without doubt, however, we are by no means finished by this, many players were out this week. You nearly lost Rio and Evra, and you were having babies about it. We lost Gallas and Clichy, the same players in the same position. Rio maybe be better than Gallas, but there is little between them. And Clichy and Evra are inseparable.
I think we will stay strong. We may not win anything next year, however, we challenge every year, and I challenge anyone who is a true football supporter, (goes to see his/her team) to say otherwise.
The majority of gooners moaning have only been around 10 years, and its the same for your mouthy faction. Its always the mancs that don’t go to Trafford that give it the biggen. Every time I’m in Manchester and meat supporters there genuine and can hold a debate. These Hull born, never been to Trafford mugs let you down.
And they are getting on here.
COME ON THE GUNNERS
@brdgunner
Well said mate. You ever read Myles Palmer’s Arsenal News review? He seems to have it in for Wenger.
We lost to a very good side last night and well done to United.
I’m hoping I see a Man Utd Barca final. I really hope Chelsea don’t become the first London club to win it, even though I’m a fan of Guus Hiddink.
hey man. you forget already lah how Kaka taught 11 ‘men’ play football last two years. hihihihi
comments at my 8:50 post? anyone? plis.. hehe
I’ll reply.
Are you in the Champions League final?No.
Are you even in a Championns League spot for next year?No.
Stop living in the past
Milanista…Where is Kaka now? I dont know where he is but I know his not in Rome. Whats the average age of your squad? 40? Bah!