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Squad: De Gea, Lindegaard; Evra, Ferdinand, M Keane, Vidic; Anderson, Bebe, Brady, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs, Nani, Valencia, Young; Berbatov, Hernandez, Kagawa, Rooney.

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452 Comments

  1. Always Be Closing says:

    Last chance to see what kind of formation we’re likely to start with and who’ll be on the pitch, hoping for extremely attacking with Valencia at right-back again because the combo with Nani was great to see.

  2. Ji sung says:

    Welbeck?…

  3. Costas says:

    Danny?

  4. Costas says:

    Echo?

    :lol:

  5. LUHG says:

    It’s good to see cleverley back in the squad

  6. TK99 says:

    Off to see the Match in Hannover …can’t wait

  7. gingerassassin says:

    Whats with Tony V’s and Ando’s necktie?? Too short?? :-)

  8. mig78 says:

    Tonite….All hell will break loose

    Thumping win as a statement of intent…

  9. Nasir abdul shakur says:

    Where is danny?plz young has a lot of training 2 do in pernalty scoring.

  10. Passe says:

    Bebe to come on with 10 minutes to go, the game still goalless, and thump one in from outside the box winning the game and becoming our top goalscorer of the DHL 2012 preseason tour.

  11. CedarsDevil says:

    Dear God, Kagawa is gorgeous! Having a King Eric type man crush moment

  12. keano99 says:

    I think fergie is sending welbeck a message sign or else? my only fear is that would leave us short up front we have no chance of rvp wenger would rather sell his first born to satan than sell to us.

  13. debra says:

    i like kagawa`s smile.. gud 2 see carrick.. i hope we gonna wn this last game to see if we are really ready for the next season…

  14. Ash says:

    Keano99

    If thats the case then I fear for the worst. No way we could lose welbeck. I say pay him 60k per week which he is asking. We have already lost some good youngsters for whatever reason. Sign him for long term. No excuses.

  15. Ji sung says:

    Love how DDT anD Valencia are such good mates off the pitch. If only saf could sign up a couple more spaniards…

  16. CedarsDevil says:

    Who on earth is DDT? Was a famous bug spray brand when I was young

  17. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    The olympics will be over. Its time for kicking off some balls. Itchy moment to start the season. Itchy and scratchy. Come on lads! Let’s revenge.

    20 is coming to Fergie wonderland.

  18. utd_fc says:

    Cedars.

    I can’t telll you how much I adore that guy. He’s our new ninja and he’s going to take the premier league by storm.

    I was waiting for him to score ever since we signed him just so I could yell out ‘KAGAWAAAAA’ in true Japanese fashion :mrgreen:

  19. Red Tash says:

    Cedars
    I concur with you in that respect.Shinji looks the real deal.Nice to be back on here.Its been long.

  20. CedarsDevil says:

    utd_fc

    Hi pal, yeah something about the kid that makes you love him…….Proper lad and hopefully will be a United great

    By the way, I nuked the fuck out of that mosquito this morning! ha ha

  21. CedarsDevil says:

    Red Tash

    Love his attitude mate, besides, he only wanted to play for us which is great…..

    Nice to have you back

  22. Wakey says:

    @Keano99 & Ash
    Welbeck picked up a slight knock hence why he isn’t in the squad. It’s just some idiot on twitter who posted a rumour and everyone took it as fact.

    Anyway I wouldn’t pay him £60k either myself. If it had no knock on effect then fine but if they pay him 60k it will see other players demand more (and we don’t know what clauses others have in relation to wages that it could trigger). It’s essential the club negotiate every deal and get the wage demands down otherwise the clubs just making a rod for its own back

  23. jesmonta says:

    A holding midfielder and two defenders to cover Evra and Rafael and the squad is complete. can`t wait till season start.

  24. jay4manutd says:

    @Ash rumour has it welbeck is asking for 75k(for a 21yr old with only a full season scoring 9league goals,might be pushing it),really don’t knw what to make of all this.even if we get RvP,definitely not @ danny’s expense,he is going to be class.i pray all parties get it sorted soon,for what its worth danny want to stay.SAF has been there for him through thick and thin,am sure he realise that

    @cedars
    Fucking cute that kagawa lolz,hope he starts tonight

  25. james21 says:

    Wish they’d played at Peterborough last night, although it was a good chance to see the reserves in action. We lost 2-0 to two very good goals. Had a good old sing song at the Peterborough fans then realised I was sat in their family stand, had to be on my best behaviour so no swearing. Pretty hard trying to change the words to My ol man said be a shitty fan while in full flight. :D

  26. Utsava Sharma says:

    I really think that Barcelona have really changed the way SAF thinks. I think he is going to start focussing on some of their qualities especially the fact that the best way to defend is not to let the opposition have the damn ball!
    Right now with Shinji Included we have Players who can keep possession , last year was a start but we played with too much openness. This time I would absolutely love it if we could start a game like

    DDG
    Rafael -Rio -Vidic- Evra
    Anderson-Cleverly
    Valencia Kagawa Young
    Rooney

    Fuck me, now that will be a team , incredible amount of pace, comfortable with the ball and loads of stamina.
    And with Substitues like Welbeck, Hernandez, Scholsey and Nani we could destroy teams!
    :D

    UNITED

  27. jeet says:

    Not to sound like an army seargent, but why isnt rooney wearing a tie when everyone else is?

  28. Ash says:

    Wakey & Jay

    But we cannot afford to lose him. He is one of the upcoming player. If you ask me any player would demand good amount of money. I think he deserves 60k a week.

  29. RedKeighley says:

    Does anyone else agree that out transfer strategy seems to be in total disarray – other than signing Kagawa and Powell we have failed in the transfer market – not sure whether this is just being outbid by PSG and Chelsea or a cynical ploy on the part of the club to keep fans happy while the Glazers rip-off another £100m spends as part of the IPO.
    What I cannot understand is where is Plan B. Other than this disastrous fucking coalition government any business strategy requires a Plan B in case Plan A does not work. We failed to get Hazard and Moura so what alternative players (if any?) had the club in mind to sign.
    That puppet Gill says funds will continue to be available for transfers after the IPO but thats “pie in the sky” unless we see something more concrete before the end of this month.
    The summer spending table in todays Guardian says it all:
    Chelsea 4 signings £64.8m spent
    Arsenal 3 signings £39m spent
    Liverpool 2 signings £25.5m spent
    Tottenham 2 signings ££18.8m spent
    UTD 2 signings £15m spent
    QPR have spent £11.5m and Southampton £9m!!!

  30. CedarsDevil says:

    Jimmy James

    Still surprised you were not thrown out mate! Glad you had a blast though, never a dull moment watching the REDS in action

  31. utd_fc says:

    cedars

    he’s already scored against city and arsenal for Dortmund. Been youtubing the fuck out of him. It’s getting to the point where my youtube page is filled with video suggestions of Kagawa this Kagawa that. He’s a great team player and so creative. Can’t explain how excited i am to see him play

  32. mansuy united says:

    @Sharma

    Concur with your post, but am still at a loss as to why folks would rather see Young in the lineup than Nani. I feel like the only one who still isn’t convinced by him. He’s got pace and a wicked shot, but his possession and positional play are both lacking, IMO. He feels too much like a one trick pony lacking the creativity to flourish on the left. His crossing is above average to great, but I see us moving away from the “whip the ball in” bullshit we seemed to suffer from last season. AV7 is the only one I wanna see cross the ball, the rest of em should be pinging tiki taki style.

    That said, I hope Young proves me wrong. Training with the best at United must surely do a player a world of good. And Kagawa will change the way the whole squad looks at a football match. Not only will he do well, he will elevate those around him. His decision making is a fantastic and he always seems one or two moves ahead of, not only his opponents, but the rest of the squad as well.

    Great things to come this season, RVP or no RVP. LB, CDM or no LB, CDM.
    20.

  33. CedarsDevil says:

    utd_fc

    Ever since we’ve signed the lad I have created one motto……….He will simply……..??

  34. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    If my calculations are right, and they usually are, the lad Kagawa will bank himself double figures in goals and possibly assists too. In all comps, that should read. ;)

  35. yustaq says:

    Either we sign ηεω players or not
    We still got options in the squad even at LB where people are glamouring, i saw J evans played there thrice last season and he was ‎​Ǥõõϑ there.
    No panic alarm…
    All i care about keep the team hpy and we’ll be unstopable
    We’re UNITED

  36. Utsava Sharma says:

    @mansuy

    Thanks mate!
    The only thing that seems to favour Young at the moment is the fact that with this tracking back he can provide cover for Evra when he goes missing. While my logic was that bring someone like nani at the 60th minute when most defences start tiring will scare the shit out of most teams. Also i dont know why but i think nani and Rooney just dont play that well together. They really need to sort that shit out!
    But yeah you are right, on his day nani can play with the worlds best and hold his own.Hopefully we will play 60 odd games this season and both will get enough opportunities to prove themselves

    Also I agree with you about RVP and so on. there have been a couple of people here like wayne and Cedars who have said that they would be happy if we didnt spend anymore and I couldnt agree more .
    All we need to make sure is that the Hargreaves curse on our medical staff is gone!

    :D

  37. samuel - united WE stand says:

    we probably should wait for kagawa to settle before we pile pressure t but no doubt, he’s a classy number 10 that will do damages. Looks like his best new friend is anderson. Not really bothered about their hair-cuts or whatever, baffles me when some scrutinise them for it, it’s their life. I’d rather see performances on the pitch instead of Gok wan’s catwalk

  38. utd_fc says:

    Cedars

    I’m guessing you had something different in mind but I’m gonna go with: he’ll simply RAPE THE OPPOSITION :D

    I’ve got this Gooner mate who’s been ragging on Kagawa simply cus he’s Japanese (the racist fuck :mrgreen: ) and he thinks he’s not technically as capable as some of Europe’s finest. And he’s been especially cheeky since they signed Cazorla. Honestly, that alone is making me want us to sign VanPersie just so I can see his face when he sticks it to Arsenal in United’s red.

    That being said I think signing VanPersie could prove problematic also. For starters, it will slow down DannytheLad’s progress here at the club and I’d hate to see one of our own playing 2nd fiddle to a Gooner.

    Secondly, and more importantly, will be the issue of his wages. If he comes in and starts demanding a superstar salary isn’t that going to impact Nani and Danny’s contract negotiations too? They’re going to start demanding more, and not just them, the whole team in general.

    Just a few points I thought I’d raise, see what some of the more sensible few here have to say about it.

    Cheers!

  39. Costas says:

    @RedKeighley

    Yeah I agree. Other than Kagawa and Powell, our transfer policy seems completely random.

  40. Sufi says:

    I am really excited to see front five of tony v, cleverly, nani,rooney and kagaawaaaa

  41. WillieRedNut says:

    People should refrain from listening to idle gossip in the media. Danny will sign his new deal. Fergie won’t risk losing a player who he’s groomed from an early age. I think because we lost Pogba and Morrison, you have some fans thinking the worst on Danny. Same goes for Nani. We’ll get those 2 tied down to long term contracts. A lot of hysteria aroubd United atm. Once the actual football starts, we can concentrate on that, instead of the rubbish of the last few months.

  42. Sufi says:

    @sharma
    i agree with u mate you have raised a good point mate. We all will be very excited to see the football that they played last year on the beginning if they can do the same this year for whole season then we can take the shit out of any opposition

  43. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    RedKeighley
    Since when has spending the largest ammount of money equated to transfer business success. Surely the quality of the individuals coming in is a far better indication. Kagawa was the play maker that took Dortmund to the defence of their title and doing the domestic double last season. A player good enough over a prolongued time (throughout the season) to defeat the team with Robben, Schweinsteiger, Mueller, Gomez, Neuer, Lahm etc etc.
    Chelsea got Hazzard, probably only pricks up your ears because his name is cool. Personally Hazzard has some skills but was mediocre in a chud of a league.
    Kagawa > Hazzard – by a long fucking way.
    14million > 35million.
    Thats transfer business success there.
    You go out and get someone to swap their £35m for your £14m and then you have the right to say what is success and what isnt.

    And a mention for Powell. This boy could be the years Aaron Ramsey and I certainly wouldnt begrudge Sir Alex the praise for picking up a handy player like Ramsey for effectively peanuts. Why do fans constantly feel the need to replace 4 members of the team every fucking year just to make us look like the biggest spenders. Wheres the logic in that

  44. Sufi says:

    Hope u are right willie

  45. mig78 says:

    Talking about transfer, now that the IPO is out of the way, I think it’s time to put an end to the miserable transfer saga. “They” mentioned in the IPO prospectus, that we’d spend 40M this season.

    So Mr.Gill, can we wrap up the RVP deal and forget Lucas, let’s get the Isco boy from Malaga instead.
    And while at it, might you persuade the glazers to pocket a bit less and cut a deal for L.Baines too.
    I promise to buy a couple of units if i can figure out how to buy the shares ;)

  46. utd_fc says:

    WRN

    Mate IMO, Morrison was never a loss. Sure, he had a decent left foot and might have broken into the first team, or at least used as a rotation player but there was no way he was making it to the top with his attitude.

    Pogba on the other hand, I was banking on him being our new Keano. Or at least something close to that (who can come close to the great man himself?!). Boy was I wrong on that one. Turns out not only did he not have even a shred of loyalty that Keano showed, nor his leadership, and nowhere near his skills. Just another pretender.

    Anyways just hope we get all this legal bullshit out of the way and get down to some real FOOTBALL

  47. utd_fc says:

    Oh and Goat

    Ramsey won’t have shit on Nicky P!

  48. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Names are just thrown about when clearly none of this signing will be made. go buy this and buy that, when clearly united have youngsters capable of breaking through. The club isn’t run by an oil billionaire.

  49. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Okay, let’s not delude ourselves now. Roy keane was commited, energetic and a box to box dynamo but technically, he wasn’t as great as it’s made out. Pogba may or may not make it at the highest level but that boy has all the skill in his locker, just not the right mentality. He’s gone, time to move on from looking for another roy keane, the game has evolved. If keane was playing now, he’d be spending more time banned than he plays.

  50. Sufi says:

    @samuel
    very well said mate. Our club isn’t run by a billionare. We have some of the best young and academy players in the country probably in europe.

  51. Ash says:

    Goat

    Very well said. People look at the amount of money spent and not the quality. Carrol was 35 million pounds buy, Our hernandez was 6 million buy. One more player we will be doing great. I think we are still in transfer market for one or two players.

    AND goat Ramsey is an ok player. Nothing special about him. I know he suffered a shocking injury but he is not that strong. Meanwhile powell looks like beast. He is just 18 and is strong. Powell looks much better prospect than ramsey.

  52. Zibbie says:

    Willie is spot on………

    Sammy I get let him settle, BUT I agree with Willie a double double, 14 goals 20 assist, but no pressure lad. :mrgreen:

  53. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    utd_fc
    I hope so. but it goes to show then what I was saying money spent does not equate to quality then.
    Either way Im pleased

  54. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Sufi – seems that the youngsters at the club get overlooked but we should raid a la liga club for another youngster. How about we integrate our own into the first team before they pack off looking for opportunities.

  55. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Using a different lap top and forgot my new name! :)

  56. Zibbie says:

    Sam, the $ is so crazy some kids will fly for more now then work hard and maybe break into the 1st team then preform and then get bigger $. The Rav and Pogba thing felt like I was kicked in the balls. Pogba got game. Some one posted almost 18 months back, Pogba would leave under threat of harm to his family, not just a Italian every guy is in the mob hype.

  57. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Zibbie – 14Goals and 20 assists is a lot of pressure but if kagawa produces consistency of quality like that in his first season then he’ll be contending for player of the year. One thing is, he has shown immense consistency at dortmund, holds him in good stead. He’s a very clever attacking playmaker, he’ll expose teams defensively with his vision and end product.

  58. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Ash
    Even better than my 14m > 35m (6m > 35m)

    In regards Ramsey, I wasnt trying to say he is a comparable rather he is a young prospect from a lower league team that has many suitors and all the big clubs were after him. As players I couldnt make a judgement because other than a few pre season games by the lad I have sod all knowledge of him. But it has to be said that Ramsey for such a young player has looked mature above his years and has done a very good job leading the Arsenal midfield after horrific loses in Fabregas and Nasri and other loses such as injured Song, pissed off Denilson, joke Frimpong etc etc It would be as if Cleverley came in and took the job and made it his own after the loss of Nani Scholes Giggs, Carrick and maybe even Young. And still give Arsenal a chance. Maybe not the superstar he is billed up to be by impatient fans but for such a young lad it was a stellar season.
    But still like I said Kagawa and Powell was 30million+ of talent that we got for next to half price – that is transfer success.

  59. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    If Kagawa adjusts to the pace of English football quickly, he could hit the ground running. For all the moaning over players we’ve missed out on, Kagawa was astute business by Fergie.

  60. United Till I Die says:

    Sharp suits, altho trust Wazza not to bother with a tie haha #ThugLife

    @Rednut – Agreed. Theres enough facts to concentrate on without all the negative speculation.

    @Mansuy – thing to remember with Young mate, he has an amazing midfield goal record because he’s used to being well supported by his team to pop up all over the pitch as the main man. But last season he was asked to reproduce that form on the flank with a CM that wisely sat deep and relied on wingers attacking and defending.

    Problem is, whenever Young got forward he was expected to beat his man on his own or with only Evra to pass short to, but thats not really his game as he doesn’t have a bag of tricks and he’s not a great tackler. Evra needing to get forward with every single counter didn’t exactly help our defence either.

    My point is Young plays better when he’s on the ball with other midfielders to pass and keep possession with. Capello to his credit played to those strengths and thats why Young performed well for England prior to the Euros. Obviously United have better options but the Govan Genius has a plan for him.

    Kagawa will improve the games of both Young and Nani, as he’s always available to receive the ball square from the flank and defenders know he’ll either turn and shoot or return the ball to Nani/Young bursting into space. Add Ando and Tom and our wingers have more support than last season and thats what we’ve missed.

    Valencia is the archtype RW who will always beat his man and whip the ball in on his own. He isn’t dependant on support from midfield and thats why he’s so consistent and the best in the league imo. But asking Nani/Young to play the same role isn’t playing to their strengths, as both have feet to cut infield in a more FW role.

    After Ando and Tom were ruled out our CM was wisely asked to sit deep and feed the flanks on the counter, but this season we should all expect much more triangular passing between CM and our wingers in those same situations. That seems to be the managers thinking imo.

    Hopefully this all means criticism of Evra will die out as well, considering our defender won’t be expected to spend most of his time in the final third (ffs). He is a fantastic athlete who is clearly doing what the manager asks so more support from CM means both WB’s can concentrate on defending and chose the when to attack.

  61. Zibbie says:

    Isn’t it on the licence? Donnat donnant donnt donnt donnt

    fast forward to 4:20 in the vidio!!!

  62. jeet says:

    I’m fucking clairvoyant! A couple of days back, I predicted something would happen on RoM and it just did! Must be all the THC giving me amazing powers of observation! Could it be?!!

  63. Zibbie says:

    Wolfie we are brothers of another litter mate, so spot on. Kagawa better for MUFC the Hazzy, Lucas ect. Time will tell.

  64. jay4manutd says:

    Buy this,buy that(that aint the be all).with all the unfortunate injuries and some youngsters(many of them)coming into the team+the fact we lost lots of experience players before last season(edwin,gary,scholes temporarily)we fucking came second to the supposed greatest team ever at city.i struggle to see how they are going to improve on last season.for what its worth we ve strenghtened cleverly,that kagawa is class,shitty hasn’t.what’s there to worry about.maybe we need a midfielder/left back,yh maybe.all teams can always improve.if we don’t sign anyone,we still will win the league and maybe win the UCL if we don’t play the spanish teams.the prayer is just to be injuries free,simple.let’s just forget about this IPO,anti-glazers,we don’t have money,some executives are gaining plz.support the manager and the team.if we are succesfull on the pitch,we won’t have any problem off it

  65. james21 says:

    Why do fans constantly feel the need to replace 4 members of the team every fucking year just to make us look like the biggest spenders. Wheres the logic in that

    Goat we finally agree. :D

    Every time we play a team in Europe there’s a total wankfest of who we must sign from said team. Don’t you think SAF wants Europe’s top players? Getting them to come and play at OT is a totally different matter. To us, The Fans it should be a fore gone conclusion because we are Man Utd.
    Its stupid.
    We loose out on said players we should move on.

  66. United Till I Die says:

    *and chosing the best time to attack.

    Rafa and Fabio can only benefit from a more adventurous CM as well, perhaps they’ll both remember they are defenders first and foremost!

  67. United Till I Die says:

    haha “chosing” – I sound like Hernandez haha

    right im off.

  68. Zibbie says:

    Like the people of the Savannah who eat the mushrooms from rhino poooo… beeter vision, more sexually active, and visions of the heavens…. Moriarty………

  69. Dr. Mico says:

    @samuel – I wish the club was run by a fucking oil billionaire :(

  70. Zulu-Utd-Malta says:

    SAFE JOURNEY BACK HOME LADS, WE LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!!

  71. Zibbie says:

    Jimmy James just made my nipples hard,

    Why do fans constantly feel the need to replace 4 members of the team every fucking year just to make us look like the biggest spenders. Wheres the logic in that

    What a guy
    What a fan
    What a Red

    GO JIMMY JAMES!!!!!!!!

  72. james21 says:

    Zibbie
    Not my words, they belong to Goat. I was just using them to agree with the section of his post. :)

  73. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Lampard has a great goal record but i wouldn’t call him a great midfielder. Again, we’d be deluding ourselves if we think young will transform into this world class player. He won’t but he’ll contribute as part of the squad. His signing baffles me, you’d think he arrived to improve the team but that’s far from the case. Young is good but maybe expectations should be lowered with him. He’s a typical british winger. Workman like, will chase back and can deliver decent crosses but in the biggest games, he shouldn’t be expected to drag united to victory as often as others and the manager knows that.

  74. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Zibbie – Red brothers! 8)

  75. Zibbie says:

    hE HAS GENIUS THAT GOAT.

  76. Zibbie says:

    I still are smitten by UUUUU

    go rooney….

  77. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Dr mico – if an oil billionaire ran the club, FERGIE probably would lose his overall control on the footballing side. They’d buy players without his consent and play real life fantasy football. The pros are there but the cons also exist.

  78. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    United are broke as fuck.:lol: We’re capable of going toe-to-toe with Stoke only :P

    We need a left – But we’re looking at Brady and Evans.

    We need a centre midfielder – But we’re hoping and praying for their fitness. Carrick is the only one expected to last the whole season, hopefully he’s wrapped in cotton wool by Angels.

    We should be tying Nani and Welbeck down – But instead their being dragged into the last year of their contracts.

    We should be looking to sell Berba and bring in a 4th striker…instead SAF is feeding us false hope of RVP.

    :lol: Funky

  79. ARUN says:

    hopefully today we wll see
    ddg
    valencia ferdinand vidic evra
    nani anderson cleverley

    kagawa
    hernandez rooney

  80. Ash says:

    http://www.supersport.com/football/nigeria/news/120811/Moses_joins_Chelsea

    Chelsea sign one more player. No idea what they are thinking.

  81. ARUN says:

    @ash
    actually they said they want two more moses and a defender i think
    at the moment they have terry cahill luiz ivanovic and cole bertnard ferreira
    i have to say defensively they are SHIT AS HELL

  82. Zibbie says:

    Ash, 97% of the footballing world agrees. He has been lined there for ever as well. Nice player, but?

  83. Zibbie says:

    I had a great post gone mentioned an old time poster. shucks…

  84. Ash says:

    Moses is another attacking player that chelsea are signing. Moses is not an out and out striker like drogba so why are they signing him. THis is getting ridiculous.

  85. oohahcantona says:

    So the United ticker at the NYSE is ‘MANU’.

    Just shows how much the owners know about the club.

  86. RedHarry4Life says:

    A slightly different slant on Lucas going to PSG.

    Aren’t Chelsea Real Barca and Shitty just loving the fact that next season when they go to Santos to try and get Neymar, Santos are going to be asking for somthiong like 50 – 60 million, because OSG paid 35 for Lucas

  87. Zibbie says:

    The dark side does not work with the ugly, Shity, PSG ect

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ14hxlIYaM&feature=related

  88. Mok says:

    I would like to watch the match against Hannover 96. Too bad I can’t watch it live.

  89. Zibbie says:

    Bobby>Al ?????

  90. Zibbie says:

    Well today I woke and bock, like collage wake and bake. With in 20 mins of being up. Coffee and northern lights/aka47. Saw the colors of the sun rise. Feel great with Kagawa and Powell. Evans with some down time will be refreshed raring to go. A year older. A man now, in defense that is awesome. Bigger, wiser and wanting to be 1st team selection!!!

  91. Zibbie says:

    Rio after SAF went public, changed his game and settled with Evans real well. Now the Capo is back. SAF said a month back, the way Rio has changed not relying on speed as much, he could recover so well. And use his mind and position well. He did. Rio can play to 37. yes 37.

  92. DIVA says:

    we must offload ferdinand,evra,anderson,carrick,chicharito and young

  93. Zibbie says:

    I know Smalling is hurt, however MUFC has 5 awesome CB’S
    Vida, Rio, Evans, Smalling and Jones!!!!! Defense and keeping win titles.
    DDG and Lindy fighting it out :mrgreen:
    Rafa growing strong going for Gold.
    Almost the reverse of the last 6 years but flipped, LB now the ????

  94. Zibbie says:

    4-1-4-1

    Rafa — Rio — Vida — Evra –

    ———- Carrick ———-

    TV7 — Nani — Kagawa — Young/Welbeck

    ————- Rooney —————

  95. Zibbie says:

    I love SAF so much, hey #7 play RB, Michael we need you at CB. Wazza go to LB tell Nani to play more central. OK gaffer, done no fuse no muse. Does my heart good.

  96. Zibbie says:

    The greatest winner of them all big Bill

    Tree for your new found love.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWFsL4Y8RVA

  97. jay4manutd says:

    @samuel your constant criticism of young baffles me.we didn’t buy him to improve really,for what the?shirt sales,wish he is Asian.that was his first season in a huge club,he started brightly,got injured and came back to score important goals near the end(tottenham,blackburn)not to talk of the penalties he helped us win thinking he was gonna represent GB at diving in olympics.can’t you just appreciate a player instead of laying out his flaws,he is workmanlike,typical british winger blah blah.your views on young aren’t important,thankfully they are your opinion.SAF and many reds sees alot to appreciate in him,end of.

  98. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    James21
    Goat we finally agree. :D

    You’ve come to your senses at last its good to hear. Must be damned annoying being wrong all the time. welcome to the side of knowledge and good judgement. lol

  99. jay4manutd says:

    @samuel you said he will contribute to the squad yet we didn’t buy him to improve..why contradicting yourself? Do you buy any player that will improve you without him contributing? Omg Damn

  100. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    Keane was not a technical player? What a daft post……I have had my issues with him post his United playing career, but to doubt his ability is down right stupid

  101. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    In my opinion Young is a fantastic squad player. Hes thankful hes not still roting at Villa Park where players go to die. Young has speed, a good cross, good corners, likes to cut in and twist the defender and is always willing to learn. Whats the problem.
    People please see what is going on on the pitch rather than look up pointless stats about players and making judgement on his abilities by his press manipulated transfer value. Having a player like Young can be clased as a luxury. When you have players like Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Rio, Rooney, Valencia, whoever is in goal, Jones or Smalling on the right of defence, then you have players that can play the entire 90mins without the need to be subbed. Young is a player like Nani who will run at the fullback all the time and when it comes to 65mins that defender is usually on his knees. What a great player to bring on. A player isnt bought because hes the best player in the world, he is bought because there is a need. To fullfill a role within the club. Young is a great addition and gives Sir Alex a totally different player to Nani and Valencia and gives options.

  102. Zibbie says:

    I might be, and have been an arrogant fucker. Like Bill, I felt I was the best winner, all around dude. Any team I was on should and would win. Baseball, basketball, American football, any fucking thing I win. My brother a way better dart player then me and when we play I win more then he, pool, marbles any thing. That’s right I did that and if you come back again, I will do it again. Big Bill is so awesome. Rooney is that, he believes he is the best all around footballer on the field and he should and will win. He permeates this through his mates.

  103. Zibbie says:

    goat your genius now doubt,

  104. Zibbie says:

    TREE in da house Hey check out the Bill Russel Link, a quiet mind in the biggest times.

  105. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – you never read adequately and always come out with knee-jerk reactions. If you read well rather than throw out insults then you’d realise a doubt over keane’s ability was never pointed out in my comment. He’s a united legend but technically, better players than him have existed.

  106. Zibbie says:

    Keaneo a winner as well, I would go to war with him, want to go to war with him.

  107. united.george says:

    Mexico leading Brazil 1-0 after 29 seconds!!

    Cmon Rafael, wake up.

  108. Zibbie says:

    Bill Russel 6’9″ 245 vs Wilt Chamberlain 7’1″+ 295 Battle royal, Wilt all the stats 2 championships, Russel Lost only one winner take all game ever, from high school, College Olympics, NBA 11 NBA titles. Cale Saunders and undefeated wrestler is close.

  109. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Exactly, he’s merely a squad player. Of course you can’t have a team filled with world class talents and young is not one but he contributes well with his role and different in style and that will benefit united.

  110. Zibbie says:

    So glad Lil Pea is with the Club.

  111. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    With “reports” that Athletico Madrid would want £17m for Llorente who hear still reckons £20-30m for RvP is good business.
    I would pay £25million for Llorente before I would ever pay £10 for RvP. But then I believe we have all the cover we need at the top so we don’t need either.

  112. Marq says:

    Malaga is a prime example of what could happen to City & Chelsea. Chelsea were lucky they got Mourinho early to built a core that lasted them until now, and City were lucky they scored that last minute goal against QPR. Otherwise both teams could well be in turmoil right now

  113. Zibbie says:

    Silly season will close soon, a game today and one that counts on the 20th and then 20!

    19

  114. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    And if you read my post properly you will see that I did not insult you

  115. 911_DEVIL says:

    14:51 Brazil vs mexico
    Anyone???

    Like I said at the beginning of the tournament that brazil gonna win the gold

    I’m still betting for them to wi it

  116. CedarsDevil says:

    I said that assuming that Keane was not a technical player is a daft and stupid assumption, I was not calling you daft or stupid

  117. Zibbie says:

    Hello tree see any more basketball?

  118. 911_DEVIL says:

    15:03 Rafael with a blinder mistake
    which led to the mexico goal
    I’m really gutted for him :( , he had time and space to put it out of play
    Mexico 1-0 brazil
    Fastest goal in olympic history

  119. CedarsDevil says:

    Zibbie

    Thanks for the link pal, but Michael Jordan is my hero, the man is from another planet

  120. Zibbie says:

    Kagawa is a sexy little minx :cool:

  121. Zibbie says:

    Mine as well, I was a Bull fan as well, all Chicago teams since I was 4. Bob Love an NBA all star, Jerry Sloan long time Salt Lake coach was a Bull. God gave Cub fans MJ for being the best supporting fans in the world. Long suffering that is… 3rd pick in the draft!!!

  122. Zibbie says:

    I saw MJ live some 20 times, wow , wow… giant humans doing those things!!! Did you see the interview with all the 92 dream team guys, on NBC or what ever you have. It was awesome.

  123. Zibbie says:

    What time is the MUFC game?

  124. CedarsDevil says:

    Zibbie

    Help me out here, who was it that the Bulls smashed two years in a row to win the NBA when Jordan was playing? My memory is fucked

  125. Zibbie says:

    Wow Kagawa son! The missing link, with a Clever Clevs as well. 15 games by Giggs as a cam as well. Forwards be forward. With forward thinking of a forward pass. Powell being groomed.

  126. Zibbie says:

    Portland, Salt Lake, Lakers, Suns with Barkley

  127. Zibbie says:

    Pistons for the Eastern champs, rugby scrums under the basket, Isaiah was awesome

  128. CedarsDevil says:

    Cheers Zibbie……….Yep Salt Lake, that was the one……….Had a little play maker that used to rape shit! Cannot remember his name

  129. Zibbie says:

    Clyde the glide Drexler.

  130. Zibbie says:

    John Stockton, to the Maiman Carl Malone.

  131. Zibbie says:

    Their coach at Salt Lake City Jerry Sloan was a 6 time all star for the bulls, a hard nose guard, kicked ass. My favorite player on the team.

  132. CedarsDevil says:

    John Stockton that’s the one! What a beauty he was

  133. Zibbie says:

    6 time all defense , 2 time all star.

  134. Zibbie says:

    All time assist leader by far!!!! Rape shit was right!!!

  135. CedarsDevil says:

    My Dick

    Did you know that my shit hole excuse of a country made it to 5 consecutive world cup finals in basketball? For years we were ranked as high as 14 or 15 in the world and in Asia second to only China! People here are basketball mad!

  136. Ash says:

    Marq

    Chelsea would have been in deep deep trouble had they not won the champions league. They would have missed out on champions league and that would have been a huge blow for them. They are signing so many players because of that one victory.
    As far as city goes they are not in a good position. Yeah they won the league but the FFP will kill them . They are not able to buy a player because they are not able to sell their players. If they don’t win the league this season and don’t perform well in champions league then they will be screwed. One league win will not make them in a good condition.

    Fuck you Robben its because of his stupidity we are seeing chelsea buying so many players.

  137. william says:

    Thought Danny had picked up a knock in the last friendly?

  138. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Roy Keane defined a period in United’s history. He didn’t have techniques dripping out his butt cheeks, but had heart and a winning mentality. You need those 3 qualities to become a top player. Football has moved from Keano’s day. The same principles still stand though. You can have all the technique in the world, but you need that winning memtality. Players like Xavi and Iniesta got world class technique. They also attain the winning hunger. Don’t underestimate that side of their game.

  139. Zibbie says:

    MJ Pippin and Jackson and the triangle offence were unstoppable. Power forward for dirty work. a high pivot center who could pass and a point guard to hit the 3. The had 2 3 peat runs between MJ’s year off,

  140. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Has Heskey signed yet?

    Seriously, though. It looks like Chelsea have signed Moses. WTF. How many attacking MF’s do they need? They’ve gone bonkers this summer.

  141. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – “daft” i’d count as an insult. I never doubt keane, i just pointed out that technically, he wasn’t the Greatest but despite that, he was amongst the very best in his role in the premier league and europe.

  142. Zibbie says:

    Tree I did not, cool rhythmic people.

  143. Utsava Sharma says:

    Bloody hell.
    Robbie Savage had a bloody rod stuck up his ass!
    According to him Rafael is our biggest weakness.
    Fucking embarrassment !

    But gutted for Rafael though. Shit happens, hope he has the strength of character to redeem himself now!

  144. united.george says:

    Cedars – dont forget Rony Seikaly who played for the Miami Heat. He was Lebanese as well…was huge in college basketball at Syracuse then Miami in the NBA.

  145. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    @Zibbie
    I grew up about an hour away from Jordan’s hometown. I played against his old high school in football. Crazy to think that MJ got cut from his JV basketball team.

  146. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    Help me out here if you do not mind……..What technical ability did Keane lack? Perhaps he could could dribble like Maradona but other than that? Great pass on him, scored shit loads, was all over the park, huffed and puffed like a fucking tiger…..

    What technical fucking ability are we talking about?

  147. mansuy united says:

    @United til I die

    Appreciate the post. I agree with your analysis completely, but that’s exactly the type of thing I was hinting at with my “one trick pony” remark. United play different styles in different competitions and versatility is required for all first teamers. He seems to be lacking that, and for that reason, I don’t rate him as highly as others…

  148. Zibbie says:

    Willie me to, Danny is fine.

    Vodka, Heskey is on his way, have no fear!

  149. CedarsDevil says:

    united.george

    Yeah I remember him mate, besides, Jordan is originally Lebanese! ha ha ha

  150. Utsava Sharma says:

    *Savage is a fucking embarrassment

  151. Zibbie says:

    Vodka awesome, he got cut from the sophomore team!!!

  152. LucasUTD says:

    Oscar looks good man. Looks like the hype around him has been accurate. He’s the kind of Kaka that we need. And for 25mil! Perhaps another target that we could have really looked at.

  153. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    Do grow up mate, if you feel I have insulted you then I apologize

  154. Costas says:

    @Willie

    Well you still need workhorses in that midfield area mate. Just look at our 2 finals against Barcelona and compare them with the Chelsea-Barcelona games last May. They had midfielders that got at them when they had the ball. We had midfielders that stood and watched. A player with Keane or Fletcher’s work ethic would be a huge addition to our squad.

  155. Zibbie says:

    Rony was real real good, awesome in college.

  156. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Utsava Sharma
    The same happened for Rafael in Europe and some other matches this season for us that cost us dear. Im sure he’ll bounce back, he is still young and I doubt Sir Alex renewed a contract on a complete moron ;)
    Rafael is an attacking fullback they mature first as a wing back and then second a defender. I think thats why Sir Alex likes to go with the three CBs and 1 wing back. Its rare youll actually see Evra and Rafael in the same match with either Smalling or Jones filling in on the right when Evra plays (previously Brown, Oshea and GNeville who if it wasnt for height would have been CB) or Evans on the left when Rafael plays. I wouldnt be too surprised if we see Jones play some time on the left this season as Rafael will be expected to get more games. Good player along with his brother who I reckon is getting some conditioning with the idea of him taking over from Evra full time.

  157. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Willie – exactly, keane had winning mentality and determination in abundance. With all the skill a team possesses, you always need those that will knit things together and place emphasis on the team. They’re just as important as match winners. Keane did that, michael carrick is still doing that. That’s exactly what i’m trying to point out.

  158. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Costas
    Thats probably the reasoning for why Park played the final to utilise his work rate but it didnt half make our attack impotent.

  159. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    @Utsava Sharma

    Just for you, my friend: http://undiesboyssoccer.blogspot.com/2011/07/robbie-savage.html

  160. Zibbie says:

    CDM for me as well, if only on comes.

  161. Zibbie says:

    Vodka NC is a big football state MLS should do well there

  162. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Yeah I know. As it stands, DC is the closest team. Mindboggling that the South is yet to have any MLS team. None in Atlanta. None in Florida. Bit of a head-scratcher.

  163. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    samuel – united WE stand
    Keane was a player that lifted every player around him by 10% with constant encouragement or a battering of abuse. He led by example but also encouraged others to carry on fighting – a real Sergeant Major. One of the reasons as well (changing the subject matter) why I prefer Lindegaard in goal. Because a goal keeper who marshals his players, keeps them alert but more importantly warns them of dangers. A keeper is facing the right way whilst a defender generally is on the back foot. A vocal goalkeeper probably has to face 10% fewer shots against just because he warned in the first place. Like Keane in midfield.
    Ive been going on about this for years and wonder why 6ft4 goal keepers are all meek, skinny and girliefied and midfielder generals are all shy. What the hell happened? When did the men stop playing sports and the 5ft fags start.

  164. Costas says:

    @Goat

    Probably, but it still didn’t make up for what we were missing. For one thing, Park was deployed on the wings. But even when he was coming infield, he was ineffective. Simply because he’s not cut out to play as a box to box midfielder. He lacks the physical presence. And like you said, playing him meant we had less of an attacking threat going forward. Having a pair in midfield that attacks as good as it defends should bring more balance to the side.

  165. Zibbie says:

    NC is so great the Sea and mountains ,my college lady and I did a 3 week stretch on the Appellation trail.

  166. Utsava Sharma says:

    @Goat:

    haha,I hope he does. I really want to see the twins in OT for the next year!And Not a day goes by when I dont thank God for SAF. What a man. Utd and SAF are lucky to have each other!

    :D

    @Pint Glass of Vodka

    LOL. That my friend just made my fucking day, Hate that cunt!
    This cracks me up!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCuYuYlozA

    Plonker!

  167. Zibbie says:

    Robbie got Savaged!

  168. CedarsDevil says:

    Goat

    You funny sick bastard! ha ha ha ha…..That line ‘What the hell happened? When did the men stop playing sports and the 5ft fags start.’ Had me in tears…..Funny as fuck

    Do not get carried away though, you ain’t getting any Cedars loving just yet

  169. 911_DEVIL says:

    Brazil defence a big joke. :(

  170. RedHarry4Life says:

    2-0

    Get in there. Can anyone see the smile on chicaritos face.

  171. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Mexico 2-0 Brazil

  172. 911_DEVIL says:

    2-0 to mexico
    And it could have been more

  173. 911_DEVIL says:

    78mnts

    Ha, I’m a fucking looser
    I have come along way scoring goals for fun
    Only to be stunned by focking mexicans

    Hulk a fucking twat

  174. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Is it only me or Rafael looked taller and bigger now.

  175. RedHarry4Life says:

    Must say Neymar looks fantastic

    That wee mexican CB Reyes is having a good game

  176. 911_DEVIL says:

    Lucas twat coming on

    Now I hate you lucas

  177. Zibbie says:

    Tree ignore Senior stalker.

  178. 911_DEVIL says:

    A row between rafael and juan
    Juan a moron

  179. Utsava Sharma says:

    U-N-I-T-E-D
    United are the team for me
    With A knick knack paddy whack give adog a bone
    Why dont City fuck off home

    :D

  180. Colbert says:

    Juan was right to shout at Rafael. You don’t try those flicks in your own half and lose the ball when your team is chasing the game.

  181. TC says:

    Cannot stand BBC commentators, it does my nut in how against anything or anyone united

  182. 911_DEVIL says:

    Hulk you beauty
    Get in there brazil

    Get in there!!!!!!

  183. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    911_DEVIL

    Faker.

  184. Singh7 says:

    Rafael getting booed as hes getting substituted and the BBC pundits absolutely slating the “Manchester Utd fullback”… Wankers!!

  185. 911_DEVIL says:

    Oscar just missed a huge opportunity to level the matCh

    Only you can do that )ou looser!!!

    Go join torres at chavs you, you rent

  186. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Congrats Mexico! Good play, deserve for gold.

    Now to Hannover vs United.

  187. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha
    Who could of believed

    That our rafael would become brazils scapegoat :D
    Crazy world
    We aren’t loved by anyone, really
    BBC commentators screw themselves

  188. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Fucking donkey robbie savage putting all the blame on rafael.. That cunt martin lawrenson as wel, scouse twat.

  189. jesmonta says:

    Instead of warming the bench for us, Hernandez would have won himself a gold medal. That is the kind of player who really wants to play for Man Utd and these are the players that we really need and not money mongers like RVP, Hazard and Lucas

  190. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Cedars – I think he gets compared to other players who were perceived to have better ability on the ball. The likes of Zidane, who Keano came up against on various occasions. He didn’t have Zidane’s wonderful gifts, but he brought a lot to the table for United. IMO, he was the right player, at the right time, at the right club and under the right manager, to lead our dominance. He was essentially Fergie’s eye and ears on the pitch. A flawed character, but a warrior on the park. ;)

    Costas – True, to a certain extent, but it’s getting harder to pick up those type of players. Fergie doesn’t seem to want to buy that player. I’ve oftern mentioned Tiote as a possible signing. Can we really see Fergie doing a uturn and signing someone like Tiote?

  191. CedarsDevil says:

    I see Tappy is in the house!

  192. RedHarry4Life says:

    It is always a United players fault even if the country isnt english. Fuck the BBC arseholes.

    Glad to see the big arrogrant Brazilian get beat.

    How many of that team are truly class players? up there with past Brazilian greats?

    Just because a player is brazilain he is immediately labelled wortld class. People will try to say that Thiago Silva is one of the greatest CB in the world. My arse he is average at best

  193. jesmonta says:

    Rafael was at fault ? how about the second goal and the sitter Oscar lost in the very last minute ??? It is true that Rafael needs to learn more but today all the brazil team was at fault.

  194. 911_DEVIL says:

    Edward
    Don’t ever mention my name to slate me you wanker

    I’ll chop you into pieces you immersed

  195. Ash says:

    Feel sorry for Rafael. I hope he gets ready for The season and forget this defeat . This season will be very crucial for him.. He has come out of his age and perform better and decrease his mistakes.

  196. CedarsDevil says:

    911

    How exactly will you chop him to pieces over a blog? ha ha

    By the way say hi to Sara and Tappy and sachu

  197. wayne says:

    Don’t watch these Brazilian lads enough to make a judgement but was thinking on the same lines as RedHarry,all the rentboy teams chase the overhyped players and the Olmpics adds to the hype.Also don’t think it’s going to do to much for a lads headspace to be making sick money at a early age,similar to a child star the fame and fortune can easily lead to a downhill spiral,only time will tell i guess

  198. soren says:

    !!!Viva México!!! I’m very happy :)

  199. Joffrey Barathron says:

    You lot need to stop with the ‘every single person who criticises a United player at any given time is an ABU cunt’ Rafael had a shocker and got criticised which was absolutely nothing to do with the fact he plays for United. Honestly, some people on here put even the scousers to shame with the victim mentality.

  200. 911_DEVIL says:

    Cedars
    I may be near him right now, and he doesn’t know that
    Its a warning!!!

  201. 911_DEVIL says:

    I’m tappy??? Haha :-P

  202. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    I think Jack the Ripper has infiltrated the blog…

  203. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    soren – Viva Mexico! :)

  204. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Yes, rafael made an error which he’ll again learn from. He paid the consequences for trying to play the right way. apart from his error, he was impressive and tried to make up for it with great attacking play. Then you get cunts like lawrenson and savage lambasting him and pointing the finger of blame. fuck off savage, no wonder why united got rid of him. Pathetic wannabe cinderella looking prick.

  205. CedarsDevil says:

    soren

    My darling, I am happy for you, I bet Little Pea must be bouncing right now. Nice to see you here my love

  206. 911_DEVIL says:

    50 shades
    Good evening buddy

    I saw you had a pop on me while I was out on the other thread
    Why do you do that :) ?
    I mean, really
    You had my back on here but now it seems you are the one now setting the fire…

  207. samuel - united WE stand says:

    He made one error so i don’t get how that counts as having a shocker?. Rafael’s head never dropped in that match, he bombed up and down trying to create and make up for it. A non naive person would see that lawrenson was purposely targeting rafael. In fact, the whole BBC clueless batch of commentary team did, they continuously highlighted that error rather than analyse the fact That the whole brazilian team were below their best.

  208. Zibbie says:

    911 dog with a fucking bone !

  209. Zibbie says:

    go mexico!!! great stuff!

  210. james21 says:

    Fuck Friendlies. Bring on the Scouse Cunts.

    UTD UTD UTD.

    :D Internet hard man is our Fanboy.

  211. CedarsDevil says:

    I sort of feel scared posting here now, just in case some one chops me up!

  212. 911_DEVIL says:

    Zibbie is never sober!!
    Hahahaa!!!!!

  213. Zibbie says:

    Wolfie Dr, J and Mr Hyde he hath 3 to 4 here.

    He is an Advocate.

  214. 911_DEVIL says:

    :D cedars
    Where’s has edwards pissed off to now

    I’m afraid he got afraid, what a coward

  215. Joffrey Barathron says:

    I must be “naive” if only I was as clued up as you Samuel. The BBC punditry team are awful so I would get so over sensitive because Rafael got some stick. I didn’t see the game because I was working but from what I did see Rafael didn’t have a good game. I’m not Rafael’s biggest fan if I’m honest either. Not sure he’s the solution to our long term right back.

  216. james21 says:

    Me myself and sachu. :D

    Cedars
    I’m scared too.

  217. CedarsDevil says:

    911

    Yeah I bet you scared the life out of him Tappy, oh sorry is it sachu, no wait, what is it Fanboy?

  218. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Never saw the match but by some of your commetary it seems as though Rafael dropped a turd in the swimming pool. Oh well it means he will try harder when he gets to OT to make amends as reserect his career. I very much doubt one player can lose you a match unless he’s the goalie, to me in earlier games it looked as if Brazil had to many cooks in midfield and no one who could do Dungas old job of putting a foot on it and calming things done. Rafael can be like that a bit hot headed and attack at all costs but he’ll learn.
    Hes still young.

  219. 911_DEVIL says:

    Joffrey
    So you didn’t see the match?
    Get your facts straight then

  220. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    In the event of an online argument, what’s the worst thing that someome can do to you? They can’t hit you or “chop you up”.

    Maybe emailing someone a picture of an STD-infested wang. That would scare the shite out of me.

  221. 911_DEVIL says:

    I’m your fan boy, growing into man
    I even scare some on here :D

  222. Yang says:

    oh dear, Rafael.

    I think this kid should learn quickly, The Brazilian people keep such a high hope for this young squad. I know he is kid and good potential but made mistake is one thing, do stupid thing is another.

    It all flash back to me Rafa switch off, sent off stuff to me. He seems lack of enough stamina to concentrate full 90min otherwise I cannot explain a lot of his mistakes.

  223. Joffrey Barathron says:

    Get what facts right? I saw him make a clamber then piss a about with a fancy flick in his own half while 2-0 down any person in their right mind would criticise him for that. My whole point was it has nithing to do with the fact that he’s a United player to the reasons he’s got criticised. I saw people on here before crying about the fixture list, that somehow it was a setup by the FA and they’re out to do everything in their power to stop us or something along those lines. Yea of course….

  224. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Pint Glass of Vodka
    What STD do you want, got the lot ;)

  225. Zibbie says:

    Herpes, in full out break.

  226. 911_DEVIL says:

    :D cedars
    Let me put it that way:
    I’m a fan boy of yours, growing in to a man
    I even strike their nervous system on here

  227. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    911_DEVIL

    After slating Hulk as twat, you changed your skin by saying Hulk was beauty. That shows your skin you twat faker!

    Come and chop me off, sucker!

  228. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Goat
    Anything with an open sore.

  229. Costas says:

    I hope Rafa gets this out of his system quickly. We will need him on top form since he’s our only right back. And it’s about time he starts learning from his mistakes. I said it after the Bilbao and Everton games as well.

  230. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Edward Morgan Blake

    Come and chop me off, sucker!

    Shouldnt that be chomp

  231. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Yang,
    Good sir, I can’t even understand what the fuck you’re talking about. Sorry.

  232. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Jofferey – Well, i watched the full game and he made one error in the entire game. Has had a great olympic tournament until today which wasn’t his best but he did all he could to make up for it. He never curled up in a shell or hideaway and that shows bravery along with skill required to succeed at the top. Up to you to make your opinion but His talent is undoubted for me. He’s accumulating experience and is improving his game. He’s the best right back united have and i’m sure if he fulfills his potential, he’ll nail down that position.

    No player is beyond criticism but it should be constructive. The idiots that they have commentating (lawrenson, keown) speak vindictively and always try highlight united players. You can’t say their hatred for united doesn’t come to the fore when they commentate.

  233. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Pint Glass of Vodka

    And where should I deliver said sad looking john thomas too, Im not posting on here, kids about and I dont want them to see what Im going to give mummy

  234. james21 says:

    Any news on these Man U shares?

    Come on Joffrey get your facts right or it’ll be the chop for you too. :D

  235. united.george says:

    crowd booing Rafael as he was getting his medal….unbelievable.

    Really happy for Mexico. Wish I could have seen Chicharito there getting a medal too.

  236. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Smalling and Jones, albeit both injured, have shown the ability to handle the RB position for long spells. TV7 could fill in as well.

  237. CedarsDevil says:

    911

    You’re both funny and pathetic as fuck……..Bet you are one of those folk who shits themselves at the mere sight of a fly chasing them

    What a dick coming on here playing hard ball

  238. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    @goat
    Aww come on. Be proud. Post that thing on twatter for all to see.

    People would think twice before fucking with the goat again.

  239. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    james21

    what news are you after?
    They were floated yesterday. Its saturday so no trading today. All bought up. They finnished the day at $14.00 dead after being listed at $14.05. They made an early rise to 14.20 but rapidly dropped down to the 14.00 mark exactly what you would expect on the day of a floatation. Quick interest boom, confidence, stocks rise, people who bought large volume sell to make a small profit only later to buy the shares back at the lower price when the sharp decrease sets in and people think theyre over valued. Happens nearly every time. The volume of stocks traded was 32million on a listing that was for 16million. Thats relatively high meaning on average nearly every single stock was traded in its first day. But overall it showed that the Glazers and their advisors got the valuation spot on and with such a large specemin held its own.
    Rumours are Glazers pocketed some money but the ink isnt dry on the dollar bills yet.

  240. 911_DEVIL says:

    Joffrey rafael was trying hard to create something
    But when he did, no one covered his position
    The young kid which was substituted by hulk was running all over like a headless chicken.
    While rafael tried to create something up front his position became exposed..
    Hulk at the other end, never was interested in creating inter play with rafa he was all selfish trying to do all on his own
    And kept losing possession for rafa to run up and down without an really affect.

    For me he did quite well except for that blinder
    But atleast he was trying to play smart

  241. Joffrey Barathron says:

    Rafael has never lacked courage, that’s one of his best assets. He’s incredibly enthusiastic (perhaps too much) and will always give his all for the team but I really do fail to see the improvement in his game. He makes fantastic runs but his end product is woeful. He’s still tries to win balls when he should be staying on his feet and he’s been caught ball watching on countless occasions with Bilbao’s 3rd goal against us at Old Trafford a shocking example. I don’t doubt the lads commitment but I think he should have be improving quicker than at the rate he is. Maybe after watching Gary Neville play right back for a decade my standards are too high when comparing other right backs to him.

  242. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Rafael is enthusiastic and has exuberance. All i can say is, he needs to channel that and get better. He’s not the finished article, he’ll continue to improve.

  243. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Pint Glass of Vodka

    I dont have a twitter account nor facebook, Maybe I should get one, I am a sick bastard and it would be an outlet for pervisity. Can you post pics on twitter then?

  244. Zibbie says:

    You know your women is nasty when she wants you not to get your dick warts fixed.

  245. Cherry says:

    I feel for Rafael as he has had a great tournament. Yes he made a mistake but who does not? Hope this will not affect him like Evra got affected after the world cup! He is trending on twitter for the wrong reasons! Can’t believe trolls are lining up to berate him not because he made a mistake today but because he plays for united. Another united scapegoat after a tournament. The whole Brazilian team had a shocker!

  246. CedarsDevil says:

    Fuck everyone who booed Rafa

  247. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    911 – You must’ve been high if you think I had your back. 8)

  248. samuel - united WE stand says:

    You’ve basically mentioned everything that comes with experience. He’s learning. i see the game from a different angle and compared with start of his career, rafael has come on leaps and bounds. He’s not complete, he has to keep learning. All younger players develop at different rates, i’m willing to persevere. I hear keane, neville and all that. Maybe it’s time to start looking forward as the game keeps evolving while others hold on to the past.

  249. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    @goat
    Fuck yeah you can post pics.
    I’m not sure how Mark Zuckerburg and his facebook goons would react to a steady supply of penis pics featuring bleeding scabs, open sores, and different colors of puss. You might want to carefully read the user agreement.

  250. Costas says:

    High on your list?

  251. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    He is high mate, up on a flag pole up his ass

  252. 911_DEVIL says:

    Joffrey
    Just admit it
    You only saw the only mistake which resulted in goal
    And that was just about enough for you to judge

    ”He’s not the solution to our long term right back”

  253. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Menezes is a coward as wel. Substituting rafael when the pressure heated up, magnifying the blame on rafael and pointing out he’s to blame for the defeat. Bilbao this, everton that. The whole united team was awful in this games, rafael should have done better at those moments but that wouldn’t have stopped united getting battered home and away by bilbao.

  254. Devil310 says:

    Can any of the red yanks on here tell me who will be broadcasting the game in the US?

  255. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha, cedars
    Spot on
    I hate fly’s
    They can get anywhere, in you nose, ears, eyes….
    They are a terrifying shit
    Specially the london bug which sucks the blood :-P

  256. united.george says:

    Devil310, I am looking for the same, cannot find it on anything to be honest….fox, fox soccer plus, goltv, espn do not have it listed….

  257. CedarsDevil says:

    Bunch of yank fuckers! ha ha What the fuck is soccer?

  258. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    The problem was that not only Rafael playing bad game, but the whole Brazilian team. That left midfield Sandro played even worst to allow Mexican right winger to cross the ball for 2nd goal. Neymar wasn’t that as effective as his last games. Neither were Oscar and Leandro.

    And, of course all credit to Mexico who played with discipline. Good play for Peralta the goal scorer and No. 3. Defender who was solid as rock tonight (I think Alcides).

    Viva la Mexico.

  259. soren says:

    Willie- Cheers
    Cedars- Thank you
    Take care, lads.
    and Viva Mexico!!
    Come on United!!

  260. united.george says:

    lol cedars – name of the channel that brings us United! it is also pronounced “sakr” here in Amercha…

    will be looking for some feeds for this one it seems!

  261. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Need streaming for the Hannover game as well, if anyone could help. :)

  262. Harish says:

    911

    Pissed myself when I read that you will chop someone. What are you? Wolverine :D

  263. Bad Wolf says:

    Can’t find a channel either on the west coast

    try this feed

    http://88.80.11.29/49193/watch-hannover-vs-manchester-united

  264. Ash says:

    So now everyone will start blaming rafael. Great work by media. Rafael had a decent game. While attacking he is great. He knows how to dribble and runs fast. He just need to improve his defending. On a plus side the defenders peak at late 20′s

  265. CedarsDevil says:

    Right I am pissing off for a while, best I go find a soccer channel that shows man u then puke my self to death! ha ha ha

  266. captaink9 says:

    Going purchase some shares, do my bit to get the club out of debt.

  267. Harish says:

    Ash

    Mate what can you expect from the british press . They just want a chance to criticize united and they will never fail in that. Sad fuckers. Jealous bastards. Ass Holes.

  268. Wakey says:

    @Bad Wolf

    it’s a nothing story as they are simply speculating. They could have speculated that selling ad space on Rooneys forehead could raise $1billion and it would have had just as much validity about the story.

  269. Devil310 says:

    @george. Thanks mate. Please keep me posted if you find it mate.

    @che cedarara you old cranky man. Dont let SOCCER bother you!!! Lol

  270. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Bad Wolf

    Thanks dude, it works. Haha.

  271. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha me too pissing off for the moment

    I couldn’t be soo proud of our player rafael
    Well gained experience boy
    Now comeback to manchester!

  272. Zibbie says:

    Wakey if you connect his freckles it say WHAT FUCKING WHAT!??? Or Coke.

  273. Ash says:

    IndiA wins its 5th medal, Great work by our wrestler. :)

  274. Zibbie says:

    Rooneys Shity goal was shown enough to be worth $342,629,741.00 if you calculate exposure like NASCAR.
    AON , RRRRROOOOONNNNNNEEEEEEYYYYYYYY! Worse then me fox soccer was.

  275. Zibbie says:

    ASH cool,

  276. Harish says:

    Ash

    Saw that mate. Proud to be an Indian. Maje aagaye. :)

  277. Costas says:

    Pretty soon Carrick will forget what it’s like playing in midfield…

  278. Zibbie says:

    Costas when does the game start, or has it?

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  280. Ash says:

    Zibbie- Thanks mate :)

    Harish- Hope we get one more tomorrow.

  281. Zibbie says:

    Kebab I never saw a sweeper play, would Mike make a good sweeper? And was that the guy in front of a back 3? Thanks

  282. Ash says:

    Lindegaard, M Keane, Vidic, Carrick, Evra, Nani, Cleverley, Kagawa, Young, Rooney, Hernandez

    Zibbie game will be starting in 10 mins.

  283. Zibbie says:

    Me and Jungle book mate, and when I first met Indian people in CA I would love to visit the great land.

  284. Utsava Sharma says:

    @Ash

    Haha, Pretty awesome. I guess one of the better olympics for us lot!:D

  285. Zibbie says:

    Thanks I should find a link.

  286. Zibbie says:

    AWESOME Kagawa and Pea!!!

  287. Ash says:

    Zieler our former youth player is in the goal for hannover

  288. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Paddy Crerand is hilarious….I love how old age and becoming senile has made the fella love United with even more redder tinted glasses.

    :P

  289. Ash says:

    Zieler our former youth player is in the goal for hannover.

  290. sheppertonni says:

    Im thinking a Kagawa, Cleverley midfield could be fucking awsome.

  291. fergie is the boss says:

    I am a little worried the boss is playing kagwa in CM, when he is best used off the striker

  292. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    Those are the types of chances Hernandez always seemed to take advantage of during his first season.

  293. 911_DEVIL says:

    For the first time
    I’m going to miss united’s pre-season game

    But watching olympics, fucking great sports going on at the moment

    Good luck to the lads on the other hand

  294. Dazbomber says:

    Sheppertonni-so do I

  295. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Bad miss from Keane.

    Kagawa looks good at CM.
    Reminds me of “sat-nav”

  296. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    So 911, when are u gonna chop me off? You freak.

  297. utd_fc says:

    WHaT THE BLOODY FUCK IS GOING ON?!

    I understand Keane is a youngster but that’s two open nets he missed on.

    And this is what I expect everytime chicharito starts. Poor touches and misplaced shots. Honestly it happens all too often and its god damn frustrating. Where’s Danny!!

    And now we got scored upon. Brilliant.

  298. Fred says:

    1-0 Hannover. HOWLER from Lindegaard.

  299. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    I repeat: Those are the types of chances Hernandez always seemed to take advantage of during his first season.

  300. Fred says:

    Shades of Carroll/Howard from Anders there. Hopefully his fanboys will pipe down for a while now.

    LOL @ De Gea explaining to Bebe what Anders should have done there.

  301. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    1-0 down. Not a good covering by Vidic.

    Come on u reds.

  302. 911_DEVIL says:

    Is it ‘more fire’ the british distance racer????

    Well whoever he’s, the guy has guts
    And belief
    What a cracking race that was

  303. Dazbomber says:

    I have just seen this tweet it sound interesting ., Sir Alex Ferguson “on club business” and misses #MUFC match in Hannover

  304. Fred says:

    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    CHICHARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  305. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    Hahaha.
    Chicha with the goal just as a half-dozen asshats were slagging him on this board.

    Blame Chicha? FUCK OFF!

  306. Fred says:

    On the golf course with you is he Daz? ;)

  307. utd_fc says:

    Dazbomber

    Last time that happened psg signed moura :D

  308. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    As I’ve been saying all along, Chicha’s finishing has been clinical of late …

  309. Ash says:

    Hernandez needed that goal.

  310. kel says:

    Young looks poor. He never once bring the ball on and keep passing back. Hope he improve and also his crossing is bad too.

  311. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    @Fred
    I laughed at that DDG/Bebe exchange too.

    I hardly recognized Bebe though. He looks totally different without his khaki kimono robe.

  312. utd_fc says:

    Pint Glass of Vodka

    So are you telling me that was a great goal from Chicharito? He scored on the rebound and some of the chances he missed were pretty frustrating.

    I don’t think anyone is an asshat for expecting a high level of performance from a Man Utd striker.

  313. Fred says:

    For him to have ditched his Jedi robes, I can only assume Bebe has turned to the Dark Side.

  314. Fred says:

    Fairly inventive use of the free kick there. Nice.

  315. Fred says:

    What’s happened to this place? It used to be buzzing on big European nights like this.

  316. Dazbomber says:

    Utd_fc- ha ha nice one

  317. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    Apart from the goal conceded, its good to see that our team playing mindset is there already. Kagawa Cleverley combo is working quite well at midfield. It looks very fluid.

  318. utd_fc says:

    Fred

    Think DDG is our #1 choice for sure, but can’t help feel for Lindegaard, the guy is fantastic and is quite hilarious too

  319. Pint Glass of Vodka says:

    SAF is on “official club business” and won’t be at the match? Twitter feed is has SAF in Heskey’s living room. Maybe his personal touch will seal the deal.

    Fingers crossed.

  320. Fred says:

    Good effort from Thomas Cleverley.

  321. utd_fc says:

    The cleverly kagawa combo in midfield looks really dynamic and quick. Very interesting. Dunno how I’d feel about it agaainst stronger sides cus we might need more cover then. I still believe Kagawa is best when playing behind the striker, and a little further up the pitch

  322. Dazbomber says:

    Fred- just got off the course thanks Fred , bad day at the office could not it a cows arse with a banjo, did not see The Boss but I know he will be looking after us.I am hoping for back page head line tomorrow and all good

  323. Fred says:

    Sure hope so Daz!

  324. Sam says:

    Now Park’s left, could Anderson and Kagawa be the new rush hour partnership?

  325. Colbert says:

    Kagawa is a fucking fantastic player. I already love him.

    Cleverley adds a lot to our team. Speed, urgency, good combination play. Hope he can stay injury free.

    Michael Keane’s choke was hilarious:)

  326. The team that wouldn't die says:

    Very good football!
    Great to see Cleverley back. His qualities are needed in the center.
    That Kagawa kid has got some mooves! I would like to see him further up though.
    Vidic playing like a master. Michael Keane looks like a full back. The kid has got talent.
    Rooney sharper. Nani and Young better than last game. Carrick looks good. Evra is proving a point, and doing it well.
    Hannover a Europa league team from the 3rd best league in the world. Agood team. On par with Newcastle/Everton.

  327. william says:

    Young hasn’t got confidence at the moment, give him time and he’ll come good this season. I like the idea of holding back Valencia and then unleashing his pace and power against sides when a bit of fatigue sets in for defenders. The best for me has been cleverly, having him fit again is like a new signing! his vision oh my oh my!

  328. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Michael Keane was unlucky ….very nervous obviously and in shock :lol:

    Take it easy you bunch of Rapists.
    Chico is rusty and scored, fuck off criticisers….it’s pre-season.

    Nani is doing decent, the midfield isn’t rough enough or physically strong but its smooth and has the know how when passing about so its ok for now.

    One mistake from Lindegaard and people are backing DDG :lol: Hypo-criticisers

    Bebe to score off the bench !

  329. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    For a player with such a small frame, Kagawa seems to be able to hold his own quite well when the going gets physical. But that really shouldn’t be too surprising given that he did so well in the Bundesliga.

  330. Fred says:

    Not sure how I’m a hypocrite Papii when I’ve always backed De Gea. :?

  331. AntiScouser says:

    “Young hasn’t got confidence at the moment, give him time and he’ll come good this season”

    LOL

  332. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Sam

    That is racist…neither is African- American or Chinese….don’t make assumptions :P

  333. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    utd_fc, Yeah but what is high level of performance. For all the people (not you) who compare Danny to Chicha, which I fucking hate, and say that Danny is better with the ball and can make better use of it. I just point to Chicha’s goal conversion ratio to say who is better.

    My problem with this whole fucking comparison – which has gone for far too long – is that people expect Danny to be a goal machine which he may never be because he’s got different skills. And people expect Chicha to be an amazing player with the ball at his feet which he may never be because he’s got different skills. Chicha may never use the ball as well as Danny but Danny may never have the goal conversion ratio that Chicha does.

    Thank God Sir Alex understands that each player under his disposal is different and has different skills and has different uses in different kinds of matches. And thank God that he isn’t going to compare them and think who is better in general. He’s just gonna think who is better suited against the opposition. He may use Danny for one particular kind of match and Chicha for another. In the end, they both will have played equal matches and contributed to our successes equally.

  334. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    I don’t understand german language, but I must say that those german broadcaster frauleins always turn me on. ;)

  335. keano99 says:

    Jesus lads the manager is not on club business he ended up in hospital in may with bad nose bleeds he has a bad heart and as a result he can’t fly more than twice a week he already went to sweeden this week. So don’t listen to twatter he is not back in manchester signing anybody.

  336. Fred says:

    Well said keano99.

  337. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    As for Lindegaard, that was a bit of a howler but he did make up for it in the end by producing a decent save. He’s a great keeper in his own right. Which one of them ends up as long term No. 1 is for Sir Alex to decide. All I know is that I love Anders as a character and want both him and De Gea to succeed in the United jersey.

  338. utd_fc says:

    There’s a reason why Chicharito is third choice. His link up play is terrible, he’s offside more often than not, and when he’s not on form he tends to fluff the simplest of shots.

    people need to take off their red-tinted glasses for a second and try to see the situation for what it is.

    Can’t for the life of me understand why some get their panties in a bunch when someone voices an opinion they don’t agree with.

  339. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    Fred – I haven’t even read your posts :lol:

    Have now though….50 Shades of Carroll ;)

    I won’t lie, I’m a fanboy of Lindy…but have a man-crush on De Gea…so I’m torn like Elton John during his first “park encounter”.

    8)

  340. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    And the one thing I laugh at constantly on ROM is people saying Tom Cleverley is over-rated. I said that his injury last season was a big stumbling block. While that may have been a bit exaggerated given that it is our leaky defense that cost us crucial points, it is not far off from the truth. If he clicks with Kagawa and they both link up with each other and the forward line like they’re capable of, we’re going to have amazing, incisive, attacking football like what we saw last season and what we expect from United. The first half was just a small sample of that which was really exciting to me.

  341. utd_fc says:

    Balaji

    I could not agree more. But the thing, or at least what i believe, is that with some experience Welbeck will add goals to his game. FFS he’s a striker! We need to give him time and the goals will come.

    Chicharito is more the player who has to be the last one on the ball to tap it into the net. Which would be great if he did that because the rest of the time he adds little to nothing to our attack. The modern game requires more from a striker and i believe Welbeck is better suited for that.

    There’s a reason why Welbeck just flew into the first team and displaced Chicharito and injuries weren’t exactly the main reason for that.

    I want to make my point clear, I have nothing against Chicharito as he is humble as they get and that’s something I appreciate in a person, but he is a very one-dimensional striker.

  342. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    utd_fc, Yeah, great way to use colorful language, really insightful that. I don’t agree with this whole debate at all. It is pointless to compare two players in your own team when they’re going to contribute equally in the end. They both play for United and they both have skills Sir Alex will use in the end. Simple. I am just sick of this whole debate which pits two players from our own team against each other in a battle of skills, when they’re not even similar players in the first place.

  343. Fred says:

    Great save from RRZ.

  344. utd_fc says:

    By the way, i’m very curious.

    Where is Rio? :S

  345. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    utd_fc, My apologies on that last post. I thought your “panties” reference was against me. Your subsequent post makes it clear that it wasn’t.

    Although I still don’t agree with your opinion as such (read my previous post), I do apologize for my knee-jerk reaction to your previous post. No hard feelings.

  346. Fred says:

    utd_fc – rested.

  347. utd_fc says:

    Balaji

    I try to keep it civil here. But when people here are going to criticize me (i don’t mean you my friend) for voicing an opinion, well then that’s not just going to stay civil then.

  348. Tappy says:

    Eny body got eny new news on the rvp sale

  349. united.george says:

    no, not the lob rooney, please dont bring that one back :-)

  350. Fred says:

    When was the last time we scored from a free kick? Rooney’s pair against Arsenal almost a year ago? Might as well just let someone hammer it like fucking Julian Dicks or Stuart Pearce used to.

  351. Fred says:

    Wow, that was a “robust” challenge on Rooney. :shock:

  352. utd_fc says:

    Fred
    Aah, with our defensive crisis, it’s not a bad idea at all.

    Balaji

    No hard feelings at all mate. I try to keep it civil here and not cause offence as that is not who I am, I only react when provoked, never otherwise. I’ve seen you posting here and respect your views in general, so i’m not going to come and start attacking you for no reason.

  353. Fred says:

    RoM has become WUM central lately.

  354. Dazbomber says:

    Fred- I agree and if it hits the wall at least it hurts ha

  355. Fred says:

    These fucks are playing a bit dirty for a friendly.

  356. Colbert says:

    Rooney’s lob was embarrasing. He scores on one of those at a rate of about every third season.

  357. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    Beautiful, just beautiful …

  358. Fred says:

    Daz – LOL yeah, might not score but might take one of the bastards out.

    3-1 FFS. That was far too easy.

  359. utd_fc says:

    God damn that was some finish. Berb-like I’d say.

    By the way, quick question who exactly mistouched nani’s cross and gave the ball away that led to the counter and ultimately the goal?

  360. Colbert says:

    Fuck yeah! Moa!! #norwegian

  361. keano99 says:

    This is fucking awful

  362. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    utd_fc, Cheers mate. :)

    How many of us are still worried about the left side of defense? I love Paddy to death and think that he is a hardcore Red, but even in pre-season we can see that most of the opponents attacks are coming from the left hand side. Not only that, they’re leading to pretty clear cut chances as well. I hoped Paddy would be back to Paddy of old but it hasn’t happened so far. And that is worrying. The return of the Rio and Vida pairing will mitigate some of the issue from that side, but that alone won’t be enough. It is truly worrying if Evra can’t find himself again, which he hasn’t done so far this pre-season.

    LOL! Talk of the devil and another goal from the left hand side through an unopposed cross. Not picking on Evra but even he’ll admit that if he was the Evra of old, a lot of this stuff isn’t going to happen.

  363. utd_fc says:

    about damn time the ref starts dishing out the cards. what the bloody fuck is happening here? is this really a friendly?

  364. Fred says:

    Roooooooooooooooneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!

  365. utd_fc says:

    HOW’S THAT FOR A FREEKICK. Aaaaah. Great workk from Wayne

  366. TonyBee says:

    oops Fred…..egg on face…. :lol:

  367. Fred says:

    utd_fc – these fuckers are off their heads. Did we do something to upset them?

  368. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Fred, You fucking bastard. Please talk more about things we haven’t done during matchdays. That was a great free kick from Rooney. :lol:

  369. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    Like I said: beautiful, just beautiful!!! Rooney!!!

  370. Colbert says:

    Evra has been fucking shit since the World Cup. He’s awful now.

  371. utd_fc says:

    FUCK PINTO. COME UP WITH THE RED YOU FUCKIN REF. FUCKIN THUG

  372. Fred says:

    That’s not egg on my face at all. I invoked fate to get us a goal from a free kick. You should be thanking me. 8)

  373. utd_fc says:

    Fred

    I THINK IT’S ABOUT DAMN TIME VIDIC BREAKS SOME LEGS.

    FUCKINN MUDERRR THE CUNTS NEMANJA!!

  374. Fred says:

    How long is it since we signed a top striker from Arsenal? Fuck me it must be donkey’s years. Might as well give up…

  375. TonyBee says:

    Fred says:
    utd_fc – these fuckers are off their heads. Did we do something to upset them?
    —————————————————————————————————-

    just dont mention the wars…. :lol: :lol:

  376. utd_fc says:

    LOLLL

    Thanks Fred :mrgreen:

  377. utd_fc says:

    Fred & TonyBee

    Hahahahhahaa. You guys cracking me up here.

    Maybe I shouldn’t talk about these things. No sooner I mention Vidic and he’s off :$

  378. TonyBee says:

    Fred …fuck the arse-anal striker….whilst your in this form go for Messi…..

  379. Ash says:

    I think the time has come where we gradually phase out evra. He should not be starting every game. He can still be very useful with his experience but he has passed his peak.

  380. TonyBee says:

    fuck sake dancing like a bumboy….pass the cunting thing…idiot

  381. Fred says:

    Rooney made the most of that, let’s be honest. I approve though. 8)

  382. utd_fc says:

    WAYNNNNNEEEEEE!!!

    FUCK THESE ROUGHHOUSING BASTARDS.

  383. Stretford Red says:

    Diving in a friendly? Really??!!

    Good penalty though.

  384. Fred says:

    Was that really Anderson with the amazing through ball to Rooney?

  385. TonyBee says:

    hey up ,,….payback is a bitch aint it …..kicked Wazza all over the fucking place….

  386. Fred says:

    Or was it Narni? (My stream is that bad.)

  387. Colbert says:

    @Fred

    Most approved!

  388. Fred says:

    WHAT A GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  389. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Great through ball from Anderson there. Is this going to be his year? :lol:

    In all seriousness though, the big problem with Anderson is always going to be whether he has the right attitude, whether he can do this consistently and whether he is going to not have an injury. If he can overcome those personal obstacles, which he has never looked like doing, he has what it takes to play for United. But is he willing to put in the effort to change all those aspects and cut out all infractions from his game, I don’t know.

  390. utd_fc says:

    OHHHHH MY GODD.

    I think I just camee!

    BRILLIANT FROM ROONEY AND KAGAWA. MOREEE OF THIS PLEASE!

  391. TonyBee says:

    that’ll do Shinji ……

  392. The team that wouldn't die says:

    FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!
    That’s United. Been a joy to watch!

  393. Fred says:

    Nani! Rooney! Kagawa! Ohhhhhh baybayyyy!

  394. Colbert says:

    Kagawa is a beast!!!

  395. Dazbomber says:

    What a great goal

  396. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    I think we’ve found a player, haven’t we?

  397. TonyBee says:

    keano99 …is it still fucking awful….

  398. Fred says:

    3-1 down, 4-3 up. THIS is the Manchester United I know and love.

  399. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    :D :D :D

    That is the Manchester United we all know and love. That is the Manchester United we want to see playing week in and week out. Exciting, incisive and straight on the attack. No tiki-taka bullshit. No nonsense. Three passes and a fucking goal. Pure United. Nothing else even comes close.

    As for the defense, that still needs work. Like last season, we are awesome going front, but that should never be at the cost of our defense.

  400. Fred says:

    So fucking awful! Oh this is so fucking awful! So fucking awwwwful… LOL

  401. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Fred, Some kind of inception at work there with our back-to-back posts. :D

  402. Fred says:

    August 11, 2012 at 21:04
    Fred says:

    3-1 down, 4-3 up. THIS is the Manchester United I know and love.

    August 11, 2012 at 21:04
    Balaji Sivaraman says:

    :D :D :D

    That is the Manchester United we all know and love.

    What’s this guy stealing my lines for? :lol:

  403. dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:

    KAGAWA YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!

    LOL how’s the “fat overrated unfit” Rooney doing for ya? LOL like it or not this guy is the most important player on the team. Absolute GEM of a player.

  404. Dazbomber says:

    Question did their goal keeper once play for us ?

  405. Fred says:

    Do we win some kind of Mickey Mouse cup for this?

  406. TonyBee says:

    Nani…once again you prove to me what a complete cunt you are….. dear oh dear

  407. Stretford Red says:

    That’s a good warm up

  408. united.george says:

    ooh Nani….the lob aint working today…..but what a game!

  409. Colbert says:

    Good to see that Nani still makes all the right choices:D

  410. Stretford Red says:

    Why are they wearing bras?

  411. Fred says:

    Dazbomber – yes he did. We decided to let him go, and he’s now he’s the third best goalkeeper in Germany!

  412. TonyBee says:

    That is the Manchester United we all know and love.

    now where the fuck have i heard that before…um…….um….

  413. united.george says:

    wow, these bras are really sexy……

  414. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Nani, Come on dude! Just strike the fucking ball. That would’ve been an awesome goal. I loved the line in Sir Alex’s autobiography that says his dad always used to say to him that to guarantee a goal you have to strike through the ball. Even if it is not the best directed of shots, if it is powerful enough and the goalkeeper saves it, it is going to look like he made a good save, rather than you having a poor shot. In contrast, if you try something fancy and miss, the blame is always going to be on you. That is something these guys should remember all the time.

    Fred, :lol:

  415. Colbert says:

    @Fred

    I’m not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the historic Chevrolet Cup. Good day, sir!

  416. keano99 says:

    @Tony bee
    It picked up a wee bit ha ha
    Lads I’m starting to get a bit of a man crush on kagawa. I think we found ourselfs a player.

  417. Fred says:

    Hahaha Colbert!

  418. Damu says:

    Tony b is a t always talking shit about Nani

  419. utd_fc says:

    Did anyone see one of the Hannover lads in a sports man-bra!?! :mrgreen:

    Fred
    We win the Chevrolet cup apparently. Looks like we were destined to win that one ehhh ;)

  420. Dazbomber says:

    Fred- that’s par for the course with us . Sorry about the golf reference not
    Ha

  421. Fred says:

    LOL Daz

  422. 911_DEVIL says:

    Balaji classic right there
    You beauty!!!! ;)

  423. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    “No tiki-taka bullshit”

    You mean the same tiki-taka bullshit that just won Spain yet another major trophy?

  424. Dazbomber says:

    Think I wrote on an other thread I need one of those bra’s

  425. Ugandan Red says:

    From what I gather, it was a typical come from Behind :-) win for us :D :D :D

  426. TheCANTONA says:

    David Herd & Frank Stapleton comes to mind. The former was great signing in Busby’s era & the latter was (“ahem”) decent…
    Anyway what’s the score lads?

  427. dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:

    “rooney should be benched once in a while” “Rooney needs competition, he is too fat and unfit” just a sample of some very impatient United fans. Kagawa, Rooney, Cleverley all were BRILLIANT tonight. they must be given PERMANENT spots in the team for Everton.

    Evra needs a lot of help though. still holding out for Baines. :D

  428. Colbert says:

    @Dazbomber

    To masturbate with?

  429. TheCANTONA says:

    @Throat
    Here people don’t like tippy-tappy bulshit dont u know that??

  430. Dazbomber says:

    Colbert- may be I must admit I do like porn

  431. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    ThroatwobblerMangrove, I mean the tiki-taka bull shit that I hate seeing. I don’t care if it won Spain the title of the greatest team of all time. I don’t care if it wins Barcelona the title of greatest team of all time. It is a brand of football that I hate with all my heart. There’s nothing exciting in watching a team hold 100% possession and wait for the other team to make a mistake to even breach the penalty box. I want to watch United do what United do best. And that is rip teams apart. Our primary goal is not possession. Our primary goal is to just buttfuck the opposition into submission. Kinda like what we were doing in the early part of last season. Nobody can compare it to what Arsenal, Barcelona or Spain do. That is why I call it pure Manchester United. Because nothing else in this world can quite come close to watching Manchester United ripping teams apart at their very best. And, yes, that includes Barcelona and Spain passing teams to death.

  432. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    @CANTONA

    Then they’d better get used to the same type of glorious results we had last season.

  433. 911_DEVIL says:

    So the fat unfit mercenary of liverpool
    Won the man of the match award

    Ha it seems like the pounds doesn’t have an affect on the scousers game.
    Well done lads

    United, united, united!!!!!

  434. Singh7 says:

    Is it just me or does Nemanja look very gaunt??

  435. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    @Balaji

    If I recall correctly, yes, we did have some good results in the early part of last season, particularly against Arsenal, of course, but we also got prison raped by City.

    But, fair enough, if you think that a steady diet of ball possession and skillful dribbling somehow goes against what United stands for, then fine. Personally, though, I doubt we’ll be seeing much European success in the foreseeable future. What’s more, we might not even succeed at home.

  436. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    “I doubt we’ll be seeing much European success in the foreseeable future. What’s more, we might not even succeed at home.”

    I meant to say we won’t be successful unless we emphasize better passing and more ball control.

  437. Colbert says:

    @Dazbomber

    Who doesn’t? It’s literally THE BEST.

  438. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    ThroatwobblerMangrove, Not denying that their brand of football is unique or isn’t successful. Just that as some of my peers have already pointed out for the longest period of time and whose words I am going to use here, it is built on retaining possession and waiting for the opposition to make a mistake. If that mistake never comes, as in the defense are organized like Chelsea, then they don’t have a plan B. I’ve seen this happen a lot for Barcelona. Sure, you can’t be “that” organized in every match, but if you are, then that is your job half done against them. I don’t ever want to see United become that kind of a team. Our goal should always be superior offense with a forward thinking, not superior possession that might not have an end product in the end.

    Secondly, I think most everyone agrees that the brand of football United played in the early part of last season is what we want to see from a United side. That is built on good attacking intents and making the best use of the ball possible. However, most everyone also agrees that we lacked a solid defensive core during that period. I think Sir Alex was trying to strike the perfect balance but couldn’t do it in time due to injuries to Cleverley and our defense being in disarray.

    My guess is he’s trying to do the same thing to United again. Have a solid back line (something which is doubtful with the amount of injuries we’ve got back there) and have a free-flowing, interchanging, dynamic front line; like we did in 2008. It may take time to get that balance right, but if we do, it is going to be United.

    And, yeah, as for your condescending question on whether I think a “steady diet of ball possession and skillful dribbling” goes against what United stand for. Yes, I do! Because both of that only leads to a goal if there’s a hole to be found. Otherwise it just goes back and it’s rinse repeat. Is it easy on the eyes? Yes, because the passing is good and the dribbling is good. Is it exciting? No, not for me personally, anyways.

  439. ThroatwobblerMangrove says:

    @Balaji

    Don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t trying to be condescending. If I came across as so, however, then I apologize.

    I suppose we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. Cheers!

  440. TheCANTONA says:

    @Throat:
    well, i dont like tippy tappy, too fuckin’ boring & i doubt it’ll be effective in PL (take a look at Arsenal)

  441. Edward Morgan Blake says:

    That’s what we call KAGAWASM!

    So, are we ready for this season?

    Defense:
    Hope that Vidic will be fully fit on time. Carrick is not a defender that’s very clear tonight. But meanwhile, we can use M. Keane to back up for Evans and Smalling. Btw, where is Phil Jones?

    We need another left back to cover Evra, unless Keane is versatile enough to play on right, left and center position.

    Midfield:
    Well, as I have said it looked fluid and it seems that we have plenty of options here. We can play Kagawa and Tom C infront of our back four. Or, Tom C and Carrick in the middle plus Kagawa as attacking midfielder just behind the striker. Anderson as a back up. But another new defensive midfielder will be a great addition.

    Our winger is probably the best position we have now with Nani, Young and Valencia. I can’t see why we need Lucas Moura.

    Striker:
    Either Rooney-Welbeck or Rooney-Chicarito combination can play here. Both combos are deadly striking forces. When Rooney need to rest, Welbeck-Chicarito can be played. Do we need RVP? Yes it would be more deadly with Rooney-RVP combination. And his appearance will push Welbeck and Chicarito to bring out their potential skils

  442. Dev says:

    It’s simple. Valencia to play as right back, Rafael to cover left back if needed.

  443. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    ThroatwobblerMangrove, And if that wasn’t your original intention, then I do apologize for mis-reading your post.

    In this case, we agree to disagree. Cheers!

  444. Ugandan Red says:

    Balaji at 21:25
    Couldn’t agree more. I can’t count the niumber of times I watched Barca play without dozing off. People say its beautiful but I found it plain boring

  445. Wakey says:

    I agree with the few who say tiki-taka wouldn’t work for us in the English League. I’m convinced based on Arsenal that so much of its success with Barca and Spain happens BEFORE they step on the pitch as the media praise gets into the opponents heads.

    Arsenal had success with it but teams started going negative against them which gave others a belief that they could be beaten by using the tactics. When more got results you saw teams like ourselves develop tactics that would nullify the play without being completely negative. Then the media started to turn and soon very few clubs went into games with them beaten and more and more got results.

    We saw last season it happen with Barca and then it started to happen at the Euros with Spain in a couple of games. Sadly while the media would be all over United Barca & Spain are the medias favourites and even when showing no plan B they largely haven’t turned on them yet. And I don’t believe there is enough quality or the right players to break the myth anywhere near the rate the Premier League did to Arsenal.

    Certainly at the end of the day I think Footballs better the way we play it, where we may have a preferd style but that styles a lot more balanced and allows us to change to other plans where needed which the tiki-taka teams have shown little evidence of being able to

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