RoM has been on the receiving end of quite a bit of stick for some of the articles written about David Beckham. Not being badly inlove with him is often confused with hatred, apparently, but let me assure you that isn’t the case.
Beckham was a great player for United and you could tell he really cared about the club. But as he worked his way towards being the most famous footballer in the world, something I’m sure he probably wasn’t expecting at the time, his priorities seemed to blur. Maybe it was his wife or maybe he was reacting the same way any one of us would if in his situation, but he changed and then he left.
The story painted was that Sir Alex Ferguson forced him out of the club, destroying Beckham, who had planned on spending his entire career at his boyhood club. This is a story lapped up by so many.
It’s hard to deny there was a falling out with the manager. Was this because he is a tyrant who can’t stand a bad attitude and a player acting like they’re bigger than the club? Well, if his dealings with Ronaldo and Rooney are anything to go by, who both exhibited a less than admirable attitude (Ronaldo repeatedly talking of only God knowing his future whilst he petulantly stropped around the field or Rooney behaving in abhorrent way off the pitch whilst trying to create a move to one of our biggest rivals behind our back), then it’s patently obvious that argument is nonsense. But whatever happened behind the scenes, something maybe someone will tell us about in an autobiography some day, there’s no way I buy that Beckham was pushed out.
“I’ve known Ferguson since I was 12 years old and we had one or two problems in that time,” Beckham said in October 2006. “Maybe he didn’t want me to leave.”
So, Ferguson forced Becks out of the club… whilst at the same time not wanting him to leave? It certainly suggests the decision was Beckham’s which then possibly caused the break down of the relationship between player and manager.
So, I don’t hate Beckham. I loved supporting him in 98-99 and I loved watching him play such a pivotal role to the best season in United’s history and best season in any English club’s history. But I do hate the image he presents of himself and I am irritated by how readily fans accept it all.
He hasn’t always been a liar though. A month before he left United for Real Madrid, he said: “I’ve never said that I’d never move away from Manchester, and I’ve never said that I’d end my career there.”
That’s fair enough. Why should any footballer expect to be loyal to any club? Roy Keane talks of players as being treated like pieces of meat and how they have to do what is best for them. To a certain extent, I agree. No, it’s not on swapping between rivals, but if Becks wanted a change of scenery and felt it would be good for his family, then that is entirely fair.
What’s not fair there though is to rewrite history and make out like his decision to leave United for Real Madrid was something that was forced on him.
“I’d have loved to have stayed at Manchester United for my whole career and never gone anywhere else,” Beckham said last January.
“When you are a Manchester United player and a Manchester United fan you never want to play for any other club,” he said in the February.
Finally, we have proof that Beckham was planning to leave United long before he left for Real Madrid. After news broke that he was leaving, the office staff at Carrington asked Gary Neville how he was taking it. He responded that he’d known for a while so had some time to get used to it. But did he know a whole year before? Because that’s when Becks made his decision.
Terry Byrne, Beckham’s mate and former manager, has lifted the lid on what happened, speaking with Sports Illustrated.
I had just appointed Ray Lewington as manager of Watford (2002), and David then called me and said, “Look, I’m going to split with SFX [his management group]. Would you consider you and your wife moving? I’m going to go to Real Madrid next summer and leave Manchester United. Would you come and live in Spain and just run my world?” I said, “OK, fine.” And I can say this with my hand on my heart, I never took a penny of commission out of David. Ever. I took the same salary I was on at Watford. I said, “Look, it’s not about money. I’ll help you for a period, get your life sorted back out and then there will be a time when I step away.”
I managed him for five years. Lived in Spain, loved it. Had the pleasure every day of going to the training ground and watching Zinédine Zidane, Ronaldo, Raúl, Roberto Carlos, Luis Figo. The dream team. Other than maybe Franco Zola, watching Zidane in training was the best part of my career. And just Real Madrid as a club, the stadium and the atmosphere and the way the city comes to a standstill when it plays, I loved it.
Then in David’s career, Steve McClaren became England manager. David was one of the Florentino Pérez signings, so with Real Madrid’s presidency changing, Ramón Calderón didn’t want to re-sign David. I had worked with [AEG head] Tim Leiweke building the [Beckham] academy in London, and Tim had made no secret of the fact he wanted David to come to the Galaxy. Tim worked for two years with me to bring David to the U.S. That combined with Simon Fuller’s program with managing Victoria and Simon’s commercial team doing David’s commercial work. As Simon’s role became more prominent in David’s management, from my point of view, my involvement in management wasn’t as necessary.
There came a point where the England players asked me to manage them. David wanted me to move to L.A., and my wife and I didn’t want to. Our baby had just been born, so I said to David, “Now is the right time for me to step away.” I didn’t want to cause him any conflict within the football world. I’m the football [adviser], the commercial world was 19 Entertainment. And rather than put David in a position of conflict, it was right for me to step away. So I chose at that point to extricate myself from it. I still speak to David regularly, and he’ll ask my advice on whatever. But the friendship comes first and will always come first before business.
Now, this entirely contradicts what Becks said in May 2006: “I never talked to Real Madrid until I actually got the phone call to say ‘the club want to sell you’. And that’s the first time I spoke to Madrid about that.”
And that comment contradicts what he said earlier about Ferguson not wanting to sell him. Did Manchester United choose to organise a deal to sell David Beckham to Real Madrid without Fergie’s blessing?
“It is totally out of the question, there is no way we would sell him,” Ferguson said in the April before Becks left, when the player was sat on the bench, being kept out of the team by Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. “Why would I want to sell my best players?”
The media focus continued though, leading Beckham to bat his eyelids at the Spaniards. “Any player would be honoured to be spoken about by Real Madrid,” he said.
I’m sure there will be Beckham apologists who try to find a way out of this but here we have it, knowledge that Becks had been in talks with Real Madrid at least a year before he left us for them, before our Champions League game where he played out of his skin against them, putting himself in the shop window (assuming he hadn’t already agreed a deal) and certainly before Sir Alex kicked that boot at his head. Is Becks’ friend lying? What motivation does Bryne have to do that? It’s obvious that the focus of the story isn’t the fact Beckham was talking about leaving a year before he did, it’s just a bit part to the main story which is about his relationship with Beckham and how he ended up in Spain. Let’s use a bit of common sense and stop arguing black is white.
“Football is everything to me and joining Real Madrid is a dream come true,” Beckham said after joining the Spanish giants. Whilst now he might look back on his career and wish he had never left United, at the time he fancied himself a bit more, thought he was the big deal, and was more than happy to leave Manchester for Madrid.
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Beckham Should Be Honest Instead Of Lies For Adulation
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You have a slightly obsessive streak, Scott.
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Good article. Usually young uns and girls that are blinded by his crap. Top player when he was with us, but not in the Giggs league, all about him and his image. People call him a United Legend which he is not. Giggs is a United Legend. Cantona, Robson, Charlton – not Beckham. He falls into the very good player category.
Great article Scott. Let the words speak for themselves.
Liar…? Lyer..? It has many forms.
I thought it was common knowledge, he was taking to Madrid. For how long, has always been the question and now we know. Still doesn’t change anything for me, he was a top player for United, but he’s history now, and we’ve got a 19th title to secure.
Ok, at the risk of being called a Beckham apologist, did Beckham’s talk with Byrne take place before or after Beckham renewed his contract in May of 2002? Why would he renew his contract in the first place?
Anyway, I won’t deny that Beckham might have lied, but if he wanted to, Ferguson could have kept him at he club. Just like he did with others that wanted to leave.
This was always clear that he wanted to go. Now this just reveals that SAF wasnt the reason he went , he always wanted to leave. He was great for the club, after he went we all know whose loss it was. United moved on. Ronaldo came he also left United again moved on. We will get 19th. But according to me saying “i will never join” and then joining spurs HE HAS RIGHT ? Or hsant he yet ? is a lie. But respect to him top bloke
Let bygones be bygones.
What is important, is that we beat Tottenham comprehensively!!
The bloke is a self obsessed clown. As mentioned above good player for us, great in 98-9, but he`s full of shit. Sooner he packs it in the better.
Scott, I see your point. But he was Manchester United great and lets just leave it at that. Okay he wanted to publicise his career, and he made some lies, but he remains a United fan at heart. Unless he says ANYTHING against United, lets just forget about him as an international superstar and remember how he served us well. I don’t blame him for joining Tottenham, he misses the Premier League, and SAF isn’t flinching with his decision of not re-signing him. He may have lied that United was the only club he would play for, but that was perhaps just lies to try get him into Manchester United on loan.
Lets just leave the articles about Becks, and see more tactical analysis’s and good banter about our squad and our enemies
. Wasn’t attacking you in anyway by the way.
Not obsessive, imo. But it’s funny that Beckham keeps changing what is said, when suits him.
Once again, that old farm quote sums it all up perfectly……
“You see a cow in another field & think it’s better than yours, but when you get it, you realise it’s not as good as your old cow”
yeah i agree with you on becks, he’s not gigs too much drama around him
@ Gio
Beckham knows now United’s Cow is way better than anyone else’s
Fair do. Always thought this was how it played out and that the boot to the head thing was just a foil. Doesn’t really change the facts that Becks is one of the greatest crossers of the ball to play for us and came from our Academy. Great accomplishment Giggs, Scholes, Butt, the Nevilles and Becks. Loved him as a red and fancy that he is still a red. Think he will be a supporter of The United for life. But support takes many forms. Becks has his day to day reality and we have ours. He has moved on and we can as well.
David Beckham ceased being his own man a long time ago.
you should read david beckham autobiography page 445-446,it’ll help you.
At the start of 2003/2004 Terry was still working for watford.Vialli had worked with terry at chelsea and had taken him to Vicarage Road as general manager.After luca left, Terry had become watford’s director of football,responsible for transfers,scouting and the youth system at the club.
During my first couple of months in madrid,as i begsn to get an idea about what a 4 year contract might mean in terms of the day to day,my instinct told me i needed to have someone out in Spain with me who i could reley on.
I’m not going to take Terry Byrne’s word as gospel on this – it’s years later, maybe he doesn’t remember rightly or maybe he’s fallen out with Becks or maybe Becks just sensed that Fergie didn’t want him and was just seeing what his options were – who really knows?
And to be honest I don’t care much, we’ve done very well without him and had wonderful players like Ronaldo, Nani and Valencia in his position.
It was a weird transfer at the time though, I couldn’t believe a boyhood supporter of the club would really want to leave but why would we want to sell? Becks was slightly static but with his crossing ability that didn’t matter too much and his set pieces were simply superb, one area which United have really struggled in since, in my opinion.
25M was a bit low I felt at the time – about right as a player but throw in the massive commercial
value and I felt the Virus got a bargain.
Becks has always shown great respect, even love for United since he left so i’m not gonna hold him in anything but very high regard. Fergie is obviously the biggest legend of them all though so not gonna question his decisions, I reckon he wanted to show the rest that no-one was too big for the boot.
off topic: Adler is on the pitch!
Scott, whilst I agree with what you say, may I remind you there is swarms of anti-united agendas flying about football and its media currently. I’ve heard it all this week, from referees giving us all the decisions, whilst selectively forgetting when we have been wronged, too journalists writing reports slamming us because we are on TV again!?! Uniteds never say die indestructible attitude is really starting to rattle people, I mean, has anyone actually heard a pundit give us a prayer for the weekend, coz I haven’t! You’d have thought we haven’t won all season, never mind unbeaten.
All im saying scott, is perhaps go for real anti-united targets, like nick metcalfe the cunt, rather than former heroes who may have once been a little misguided but now openly regret it.
I think there were obvious reasons for him to sign that contract, even if his heart is set on leaving. Try to put yourself in his shoes, Costas.
From my take, it’s like this: I want to leave. But a new contract offer comes in, with significant improve in my wages. I would get more money from my current club, even if for a season. And I know, Real Madrid will still be coming to get me, even if i sign the contract, because they have the money (or the bank). Signing the new contract would make my value goes 20m higher; Real dont care. They want to sign all the stars. So signing the new contract would not hinder my chance of leaving. Just sign then.
Personally i dont think Ferguson was mad at him because he wanted to leave. But i think because Beckham was showing half-hearted performances that made SAF angry.
I dont know how many times i told this, but i can clearly remember the Real game at OT (second leg of CL). Beckham was left out of the starting line-up and his form was questioned from many sides. Then he came on, played the most beautiful game i have ever seen of him, scored two goals. I was like.. WTH?? He is capable of this all the while, but why hasn’t he played like this before?
Football-wise, he is a legend for us. But off-the-field, he is just a plain ex-player.
What did George best say about Beckham? No left foot, can’t head a ball, doesn’t actually score many set pieces, but other than David is a world class player. Paraphrased a bit but that was the gist.
Am I correct in saying united didst score from a set piece in the PL in Beckhams last season with united.
@berbatunday: what do you mean by he is on the pitch?
@Gio yes you are absolutely correct there. MOOOO
another off topic but anyway, i read this as “Lampard: Please sack Carlo now” haha
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/865282/frank-lampard:-ray-wilkins-exit-affected-chelsea?cc=4716
@gerkeo
Beckham scored a free kick on the final day against Everton and Ruud scored from a Beckham corner against Charlton.
@MyCowIsTheBest
But here’s the thing. If he was dead set on leaving, why sign a new contract? He could have forced a move to Real a lot easier hadn’t he signed it. As for his form that season, I thought he was below par until December, but he picked it up after that. He had 3 bad games (Arsenal in the FA cup, Bolton away and Real away), but overall he wasn’t that bad. He played well against Real probably because he was trying to prove that he should be starting.
I think this has been pointless articles on the beckham lies, maybe becks was talking to the fascists probably because his relationship with fergie completely collapsed. Changing his plans, he never really wanted to go there, because he knew the uncertanty of how the fascists are structured, where there is no long term plan only chaos. If it was up to becks he would still want to play for united even today, instead of moving to that looney house
MyCowIsTheBest – like goerge best said on the aftermath of the madrid 4 3 win, fergie got it wrong leaving beckham out and playing veron. There was no hints he wanted to leave in 2002/03, he returned from a horrible injury and much like many players after a world cup. He did break his foot almost twice that year and he worked his ass off to play in the final part of the 2001/02 season. It took him a while to get going and he was a huge part of the championship success of 2003. Becks assist rate was one of the best that year still, and he never ever through out his united career even flaunted himself to other clubs, like a certain player who went there a phew years ago
I think It’s important to also say, the club didn’t handle it very well either. United accepted a bid from Barcelona, without informing Beckham apparently, don’t know if that’s true or not. As it was, he wanted a move to Madird, so everyone got what they wanted in the end.
At least he did not refuse to play for the team when asked to run out against Arsenal in the League Cup in 2001-02.
Arsed
Dilardo you stated it is females who idolize Beckham. Speaking as a female I have to say that I find him to be intensely irritating and am therefore hardly his biggest fan. I firmly believe that Beckham is too fond of publicity and the fact that Scott has caught him out on a lie really does not surprise me as he is too false for my liking. Actually I think where the problem comes in is the media are totally obsessed with Beckham and sadly the public are only too ready to lap up every psychophantic article spouted by our media. I only wish the public would use their own mind for a change instead of blindly reading the media’s claptrap.
Off-topic, but anyone up for Giggs breaking Sir Bobby Charlton’s appearance record against citeh? its looking likely…
@Costas maybe he couldnt because Real was signing only one star every summer. On 2002 they already signed Ronaldo. So he was biding his time, waiting for the move the next season. While waiting for the move, why not just sign?
anyway we dont really know the detailed story. But my point is, when i saw that performance he put against Real, i felt like i understand how Fergie felt. It was like “so that’s why…” in my mind.. and from that point onward, i accepted the fact that i was going tol lose one of my idols at OT….
Leave him alone what’s done is done who cares now……he is not wanted by Sir Alex although thousands of us fans do so I wish him all the best at Spurs which is a good choice the only other club he belongs to as he began there. He is and always will be a true red though he offered his services but Sir Alex is so stubborn to loan him.
Why drag up the past what are you trying to prove…..there are 2 sides to every story and Becks may have had to lie or change his mind due to the circumstances….what matters is that he is a true red.
Just leave him be.
Onside – I don’t know what point you’re trying make there mate. Scholes fucked up on that occasion and I’m sure he said sorry to the manager and the players.
Slabs.
Your take on it is spot on.
@Vish
It’s too close I think. Giggs needs 8 league appearances to do that and the City game is 6 games away.
@MyCowIsTheBest
Personally, I felt that Beckham should have started anyway. Fergie was keeping him on the bench a lot during that time, but his performances weren’t that bad. Just that Real game in Spain. You are right about Beckham not moving to Spain in 2002, but in my opinion, signing a new contract would complicate things even more if his heart was set on leaving the following year. Anyway, I think you are right. There’s a lot in this story that we might never know.
MyCowIsTheBest – I would like to know who exactly played well in the first leg at madrid, roy keane had a shocking game.
Ruud was the only one that played well. Barthez was really poor in the 1st leg.
In fairness, Real were quite brilliant at the time. I remember Fergie saying that if it was up to him, he would have prefered it 5-6 of their players didn’t play in the second leg, lol. But it was evident that for someone like Rio, this game was a real challenge for him.
You’ve got to let it go, Scott. You have been on Becks’ case for quite some time; give him a break ffs. Your attempts to turn fans against him aint gonna work, am sorry. Let bygones be bygones. Bottomline: Becks is a United legend and always will be. Deal with it.
Even the first goal at OT, Barthez should have saved Ronaldo’s shot. He was poor over the two legs.
well said Scholes Screamer
BECKS IS REDDER THAN SOME OF THE PLAYERS WE HAVE HE IS STILL
PART OF OUR CLUB AND ALWAYS WILL BE IN OUR HEARTS.
ONLY GIGGSY SCHOLES AND NEVILLE ….are the true reds at the club
Costas – na they were very overrated side, and a very old side. Their back 5 were a joke, you put that madrid side up against the current barcelona side they would get destroyed. United totaly crushed that madrid side in the second leg, and they could have easily have been beaten atleast 8 3 of solkjaer had his scoring boots on. I believe our 94 99 and 2007 sides would have comfortably beaten that madrid side by atleast 2 or 3 or 4 – 1. Do not forget the likes of espanyol were hammering them away, and they even lost 5 – 1 at home to real majorca, which showed they were very beatable
someone said he is a plain ex player haha
world icon
role model
most famous footballer in the world
superstar
are you serious.
No further comment
Let it rest Manchester United have moved on will always move on
This United will never wait for no one – period – no one is bigger than the club than the club itself.
Players do not make Manchester United.
Manchester United make the players – full stop and here ends the lesson.
FITB – You took the words right out of my mouth lol. They were over rated, as Juventus proved in the semi final. We were naive against them, and maybe a lack of experience in defense cost us big time. If Ronaldo had of missed the 2nd leg, we would’ve went through IMO.
@Scholes Screamer….. I concur.
personally i dont give a fuck about Becks any more as he is on the slide and has been for a few years.
couldnt give a fuck about when and if and how he went to Real but the truth is he went. as soon as he left us ….. basically fuck him.
Hate to say this Man Utd is the biggest and greatest club in the world but with the Glazers you don’t know what could happen.
To me the one player who is a brand in his own right is Becks and don’t knock him you may laugh at me but one day he could be bigger than the club or even own it.
JOKE TO YOU BUT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THIS LIFE.
Why doesn’t this turn into a series. This is How It Feels To Be Beckham!! Fucks sake its getting boring now. There’s counter arguments in some aspects of this article. i.e Fergie mellowing over time, the whole image rights/contract fiasco. I still can’t believe we sold him so cheaply considering the club fucked about over image rights. We had the whole posh spice saga and she’s the bitch who caused him to leave IMO. Thats why he’s in LA now, can’t blame him like Cashley Cole I would probably do the
same if my mrs earned more than me. Fortunately she doesn’t!!! As for the Madrid game that day most the ground knew before the game he was off, terrace talk you may call it. O’Shea also played well that day, pity those types of performances come once or twice a season.
This doesn’t prove anything beyond the amount of microphones beckham has had thrust in his face. Ferguson contradicts himself on an almost weekly basis, where’s the post on him?
David beckham is one of the great players of Fergusons era. He might play up to his top red status but give the guy a break ffs!
Fuck that, I’d rather have the Qatar group lol.
@ ANNA
BIGGER THAN THE CLUB MAN UNITED?
GIVE ME A BREAK , U ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO AS SCOTT SAID ARE BLINDLY IN LOVE WITH BECKHAM
willierednut – yea lol, what was their engine room. Makelele and flavio or guti LOL that is one average CM to choose from, with an ageing figo and zidane that had no more than 2 years left in the tank, with a fat ronaldo that was close to being a spent force. Ruud was destroying that madrid side at OT. I kick myself when I saw that madrid 11 at OT how we did not win especially with raul missing, and how we never towiped the floor with them. I think the big reason why united lost, was the decline of roy keane, and scholes suspended that day has well has our defence were terrible that game. You put keane and scholes in their prime against that madrid side, we would wipe the floor with them
ANNA – many will because he aint bigger than united. until beckham can sell his brand for 2 billion or more then that arguement has no legs to stand on
ANNA
For fucks sake shutup already
Beckham bigger than Manchester United?
No one is bigger than Manchester United and therefore it is such pathetic comments such as yours that made SAF sell him in the first place because he was arrogant in his stance of assuming that he was bigger than the club – he wasn’t he isn’t he never will be.
Go figure
notorious red apart from the swearing I quite agree
Scott just leave it be now
Nothing can turn us against Becks not me anyway I grew up in Leytonstone
where Becks was born so I identify with him and his going to Spurs in fact
has not really upset me I’m quite excited for him….and I am a true red but I
dont blame David..end of story.
off topic: are manchester united selling young players? that why no young players want to sign for united. it seem there’s no future in Manchester.after eikrem maybe pogba,petrucci,massacci n the others.use the youth rather buy.united are more becoming shitty
@ Zalee ?
What the fuck do u mean bt SHITTY ?
Are The DA SILVA Bros AGED ?
WHERE ARE WE SELLING YOUNG GUNS ? I am sure Tom , Welbeck , Corry ect will all be called back at right time !
Zalee
i thought i had heard it all…
Zalee – what the hell are you on about. Off course thereb is a future, it is just hard to get young players through. welbeck cleverly rafeal and smalling are the next generation of young players coming through at united
Oh Scott
Why do you torture us
Zalee just do one already for crying out loud
I think I need come fucking pills at this rate
Earth to Zalee, come in Zalee.
@FITB
On their day, they were tought to handle though. And like Rio tends to do nowdays, Hierro was helping steady the ship at the back. We caught them on a very good day at the Bernabeu. And as willie said, didn’t get enough from Barthez in both legs.
MG thanks very nice of you to speak like that to a lady I was not exactly saying that I was trying to point out that with the Glazers in charge we don’t know where we could end up look at the decline of other clubs …and in that case Becks will be bigger than the club…..you did not get my message properly…..and show some manners when you talk to women or anyone….abusive cowardly language just shows how ignorant you are.
sorry willie he’s gone im afraid.
willierednut
nanoo nanoo
All things back to normal again – phew!
I am not disagreeing with you, but I think you’re a bit hard on the lad. It’s something you would have done too, if you were in his place, trying to get back to the national team, but rejected from your favorite club. You said things you meant, but sometimes you do things you’ve gotta do.
What the flucks going on here today lol.
we love,admire,loyally support david beckham and no amount of negative comments from negative people who still resurrect the past,LET BY GONE BE BY GONE.all move on.we will support david beckham whereever he goes. JUST READ DAVID BECKHAM MY SIDE( IS DAVID’S STORY) and there you will know what the story behind david beckham leaving and going to real madrid.he’s very loyal to manchester but the manager doesn’t want him anymore and there’s a saying ( IF YOURE IN THE KITCHEN AND YOU CANNOT STAND THE HEAT GO OUT OF THE KITCHEN)
There’s a spike in the earths cortex lol.
Why does everyone keep harping on about this??
Beckham was a top player for us. Leave it at that. We’ve had many players come and go over the years and that is not going to change in the future.
Get over it. He was fantastic in a United shirt. He never sulked. And never once sullied the United name.
Why can’t he still have sentiment for the club? Some of his best footballing years were spent here.
As for turning is back on United to play for Tottenham, look at his history. He’s a North London kid. His grandpa was absolutely gutted when he chose United over Spurs. A mans past often reflects in his future.
ANNA
Anyone that says that X will be bigger than Manchester United deserves no respect
We get that the Glazer’s are leeches and we get what they have done to the club – but surely after paying off the PIKS they may have got it that they can’t screw with this institution of a club any longer?
Asking a lady to shutup is hardly inconsiderate and manner less – Asking a Lady to shutup when she has insinuated that David Beckham may be bigger than the club the Lady herself so loves is not abusive – tell me where asking you to shutup equates to cowardly language and ignorance?
I couldn’t care who you are – a Lady should know that as a Manchester United fan nothing is bigger than the club itself – the club itself is more powerful to withstand anything that is thrown at it – just as the Glazer’s who have learned accordingly.
If a fan finds a Lady talking and finds what the Lady has said to be inadequate then I suggest to you that asking you to shutup is not disrespectful to the level that the Lady has so eloquently responded to.
Before you make a mockery of yourself have the decency t reply accordingly
The gentleman did not mock or abuse the Lady – just asked for her silence and her attention to the fact that
Manchester United are bigger than everybody – no one is bigger than Manchester United.
Either you live with that or you don’t
Twist away as you so chose to do so
Scott friendly debate is fine but when people get abusive and swear I don’t think it’s right to print their comments.
@MG
Where are your manners. You should take some lessons from me in subtlety.
MG
You don’t have to tell me that I know that know one is bigger than the club not even Sir Alex the club for me is still Sir Matt’s club no disrespect to Sir Alex but I come from that era when Sir Matt was in charge……I fully agree with you NO ONE is bigger than the club.
I was merely pointing out how one minute you can be up there the next minute gone….look around at what has happened to some of the greatest clubs from the past…..I did not explain myself properly and you flew into a rage. But as a brand you can’t say Becks is not bigger than some of the clubs in the Premier League (lower clubs) cos he is…..but not bigger than United.
I just hate your swearing.
If MG is an ignorant, abusive coward then my dictionary has been penetrated! Fuck.
ANNA
I refer you to my comment again:
“For fucks sake shutup already”
I didn’t swear at you – I didn’t abuse you and I didn’t stoop the level you said I did
If you didn’t like my comment I can’t apologize for that – certain language is used on this blog and yes I will be honest enough to say I use it.
Moreover I didn’t rage at all – I just wrote that it was a pathetic comment – you yourself have just said that you didn’t explain yourself properly
Now if you had written back to me originally and have said that I was harsh in the way I wrote or I should not have used that tone I would have and as I do now apologize.
You should not have written back the way you did – I may have over reacted in my tone but I was not in anyway rude to you as a person and you should retract your initial response.
I maybe a lot of things but most people know on here I know where the limit is – and for you to accuse me that I overstepped it is out of order.
As for Beckham – I don’t care about him – he is not attached to Manchester United and left because he wanted to – now many others believe what I believe and many others don’t.
We all get along fine here no matter what.
Hey people! we have big game on sunday at the lane..so let’s talk about that instead of looking back on some irrelevant issues.
ANNA
please explain how 1 person/former player could ever be bigger than Manchester United FC.
He is a part of Manchester United but he is only a small part, don’t believe the hype that has and is spun about DB
Unless Beckham is going equal the combined history that MUFC has there is no way this could happen.
You seem to forget that he is not the Messiah
@UNITED4life
Amen. Need a really big performance I feel if we are going to walk away with 3 points.
Beckham leaving us was actually a very good thing. We were rid of the circus, and the clowns that followed. Opened the door for the next great number 7 winger.
A bit off topic:
Owen should’ve been given a generic squad number or something, anything other than the number 7. With a history like ours, and the players who’ve donned that shirt. I don’t think a scouser was the way to go. Oh well, hopefully the next man to don that number will be deserving of it.
Costas
The only lessons I need to take from you are the ones on how to make the best kebabs in the world and don’t you think about anything else
smartalex
First time for everything mate – don’t forget to time and date it lol
He’s a naughty boy.
Yes I do love Becks as a Legend and person, but am not blinded as someone suggested.
If only the players we have now except the mighy trio of Giggsy Scholes and Neville
show 1/4 of the love and dedication Becks did for the club and still does. I would say Berba also does, Hernandez and alot of the younger ones.
AS for Rooney he showed the most disrespect to the club I have ever experienced…he humiliated SAF into going on tv,, almost in tears to announce that Rooney was leaving then after a few bullies scared the hell out of him outside his house and a rethink and a few extra million here and there, he changed his mind…..Becks has never done anything to hurt the club. Yet Roo get;s away with it SAF really is getting soft and Rooney still isn’t scoring!
it’s easy to give negative comment without knowing the real truth and be unfair to that person,and that’s what some negativistic people are doing with david beckham,condemming.judgemental,any way we will still support ,admire david wherever club he will play,a great player,consistent in every game great CHARISMA WITh PEOPLE AND WORLD CLASS PLAYER.
Who says that Terry Byrne is telling the truth? I don’t think Beckham is perfect, but I don’t buy the whole “He let the fame get to him and thought he was bigger than the club” thing. He never gave less than 100% for United, and to me he is a United Legend.
say what you want to say with david beckham but there are only one david beckham and millions admire him and that’s what counts more.
@Costas.
I think it is 50:50. we have the edge on them and confidence is skyhigh in our camp despite poor away form. I think spurse will fancy their chances so we will have openings to scoar goals..and given our defence we can do it. however if we get early goal and try to protect a lead likw we did against smaller teams, we would be hammered. so hopefully we will play better and win this one.
United count more. Beckham was only a player, United are much more than a club. We’re heart takers and heart breakers.
Its funny aint it that all the Girls are all over the Forum when anybody is Dissing Becks.I love him Etc, he is legend he is United through and through.Girls I will tell you , yer no getting his fucking thong aff.
I know he has a 6 inch Nob anyways, I saw a noodie pic of him on the Net.Not impressiive! lmao
Ony bastard is allowed to tell a few Porkie pies!
I know a few Cunts that promised something to some one regards a Annual war Chest to fight the fight.That Didnae happen either did it!
This was fucking hillarious reading through this a fucking Cat fight everywhere, Miawooooo! purr purr.
Edwin is likely to be fit, so we hope our back 5 is our first choice (VdS, Rafa, Rio, Vidic, Evra).
Giggs could play, and should in my opinion.
How do fellow reds?
Beckham, yes I like the guy, good player at best… great? no Seems like a nice guy and good for him
As Willie said, United count more. simple
many know the true color of david beckham ,even he’s training with tottenham he’s a true blood manchester united but the old manager doesn’t want to acknowleged these and it give more reason that the sympathy goes to david beckham.
smartalex
I hope Giggs starts as well, he always seems to score against Spurs !
Damn, you are a little too obsessed with Becks, Scott
CedarsDevil
He has 10 against them, so no. 11 for our no. 11 sounds great!
smartalex
That will do for me, mind you if its 12 I wont complain! lol… Cannot wait to see Rafael nullify Bale again
@UNITED4life
That’s what worried me. The away form. And who knows? Maybe if we go one behind, it will force the team to play with more freedom and take control of the game. We usually win in those cases. Like last season at White Heart Lane. We are not the type of team to pick up the lead and then defend it to the end imo.
@MG
Lol, hold on now. I am more than just a kebab guy around here. I also have plenty of nice stats for you guys.
I need a life, lol.
Red Scot,excuse me i’m not only for david beckham but as well with victoria and the family,we believe in him as a person as well as a player and it’s my own and honest opinion and for sunday game may the best club win.it’s a ball game and will never know who will be lucky as just don’t be so confident and count the chicken yet.
United were the last team to beat the Spuds at Shite Hoose lane that was in 2009, 1/3 for United.
The Spuds seldom since then concede more that 2 goals at the Lane.
If United win it it will be orgasmic, and display excluding the real United at Blackburn we are just not getting the rub of the green to date.
Lets be honest our away form is not League winning form is it?
Something I wait with anticipation on Sunday, see if this United team is the real deal?
Our advantage is if you look at Stats the Spuds have failed to win any off the last 23 meetings with United.
This is not a normal Spuds side.
Bring it on ……..Over and out 10/10
@Bernadeete
What is your point man? Ok he was one of the many former united players who graced the OT but so what? he left and life goes on. we didn’t go down because of his departure we continue to set the standard here in england. Insterad we should be greatefull for players like GIggs and Scholes who are still serving the club.
Great article Scott, think I was nodding my head for the entirety of reading it. My view is that Beckham is a two-faced, self-obsessed, over-rated PR machine, he was a very good player for United who was eventually dropped for Solskjaer.
ANNA – loads of filthy rich PPL are trying to get their hands on the club. If the club even loses its value you will see a long line of PPL just ready to take this club over. If the qata group rumors are true they want the club, the last 3 rumors have been rich PPL reported who are worth atleast on average are worth 12 billion and higher. Beckham himself will have to struck oil for him to even afford the club has he is not even worth 800 million let alone by united
Who let Rebecca Loos in the house?
not becks again. i mean so what if anyone doesn’t particularly like him, sheesh. For me people do whats best for them at any point in time, the lad was good at United and one we’ll always include in our history, but this dissection of his every move is unhealthy me thinks.
@CedarsDevil
I really do hope Rafael has a good game over there; he could be on his own at the back, there isn’t park playing in front of him, Nani has got to be exceptional for him to have a good game
Get her out FFS!
@willie
I kind of like Rebecca. David knows how to pick them.
@ willierednut
cheers mate
i seriously hope we destroy spurs on Sunday, the media wankfest over el twitcher and the 2nd best player in the world TM needs to stop.
I don’t doubt they are a good team but if SmartAlex is right and our best back four start we should be able to nulify any of their qualities.
Its time Rooney woke himself out of his self induced coma and earned his wage.Sometimes i think this lad has no ambition at all.
vds
rafael
rio
vidic
evra
nani
carrick
anderson
giggs
berbs
rooney
Red Scot
Wigan beat them at their place this season mate… Furthermore who is this Costas we speak of?
slim
Rafael already did the job on Bale on his own once whilst the media completely ignored his job, yet choosing to talk up how Everton doubled up on him at the Lane!!
wow Red Scott
it’s your page or forum or whatever this is
but after your comments it’s not even worth
commenting on anything on here as you
are so sexist.
Costas
To others you maybe the stats guy
To me my friend you will always be the kebab guy
I think we should clarify that RedScot is not Scott the Red. Different people, different language.
Just kidding RedScot.
@Cedars
And Wolves beat them after us too. Who am I? I wonder the same at times.
@MG
Lol, I hope the kebab stuff comes to fruition this May, because I hate to think that I am preparing them for May of 2012…
ANNA
Red Scot and Scott the Red are 2 different people!
Costas
I knew you would have a hidden stat up your sleeve! Not a game I will ever wanna play with you lol
What a night!
ANNA – It appears to me that you are new on here and are only posting in relation to Becks. Lady or not, you assertion that he is bigger than the club is total ignorance and utter garbage. And before you take my comment the wrong way, I have read some your previous posts, and I for one have no respect for Rooney as he has disrespected all connected with United. My stance is simple, United will always be the number one priority and anyone who thinks they are bigger than the club can go to hell. I was a big fan of Becks when he first made it at United, but his behaviour towards the end left something to be desired. When he signed his last contract in May 2002, it took him a year and a half to agree that, as his £90k basic wasn’t enough, demanding extra payments relating to image rights to be inserted into his new deal. Now that to me is not the actions of a die hard red. that is someone who was milking the hype given to him by the media, the same media who slaughtered him 4 years earlier and looking to rinse the club. Scholes, Giggs and Neville agreed their new deals in quick time, without interference from parasite agents or advisors. For me, United became third in his list of priorities, behind his celebrity status and his international career.
thanks I get confused between the 2 of the Scotts better watch what I say not sure if I have them as friends…..they won’t want me after today sticking up for my beliefs in Becks…..anyway for me GIGGSY is the main man 600th game on Sunday and 9000 fans on my page nearly so I will worry about that Becks is fine why I have to get myself in trouble over him I don’t know but I feel sorry for him as I know he loves the club. @Cedar’s Devil
Costas – Loos was a skanky bitch mate. Now, Heather Graham, that’s a fucking hot smoking woman.
@Jaansdad Whats up mate? Long time no hear.
When I heard he was coming to LA I was psyched.. when I finally knew what his agenda was and what he did to his club.. I realized he was a muppet.
wow I have upset some people tonight wish I went to bed early now….things I say sometimes comes out the wrong way as I think but type faster than I think and I was not really saying Beckham was bigger than the club but I am fed up trying to explain myself now ..not trying to get out of it and btw I have commented on here before not just for Becks.
I KNOW NO ONE IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB ….GILL, SAF, GIGGS ….NO ONE…..Sir Matt was the one for me he is what Man Utd is all about.
People are too quick to have a go without understanding what I really meant.
it’s ike when John Lennon said that the Beatles are more popular than Jesus
what have I started tonight.
Goodnight ….. and I don’t care if you all think I am not a true red cos I have been for about 40 years since I can remember.
ANNA
Take a chill pill, its all part and parcel of the blog, do not always expect people to agree with you or understand you all the time…
Furthermore, what is there to feel sorry for Becks? If I had an atom or molecule of what he has I would be fortunate, in fact if you could split that atom I would be satisfied! lol
@Cedars
I was ashamed of that stat since it was just something I remembered, lol. I did some research now and turns out Giggs has scored 10 goals in 37 games against Spurs. Not too bad. No one has scored more against them in recent memory.
@willie
It’s the skank part that attracted me.
It just dawned on me Anna is probably Posh or she daydreams of being her. One or the other.
ANNA
We know that you are a true red that timed her faux pas badly.
But you fucked up. Stand your ground, that’s good, but you got it wrong.
Now what’s this shite about the beatles?
well said. i get hammered every time i call him a sell out … thank you for the proof, Scott.
All you need is love Anna. @Costas I couldn’t trust a bitch like her mate, skank or no skank.
Costas
You are way behind mate, smartalex already beat you to it (The Giggs v Spurs stat that is)
Careful you may soon lose your status as stat king
Lol …… Posh is the last person I want to be and I would not like their lifestyle I just like the guy what’s wrong with that we grew up in the same area of London and I relate to him. I am almost old enough to be him mum (young mum)!!! think you guys are hilarious….just cos we stick up for someone you think we fancy them.
@ Costa you are correct about Giggsy I run a page for him and I had that on there today.
@ Cedars …..I am taking my chill pill soon before bed I need it after you crazy lot on here 2nite.
How sad that such a legend is easily kicked aside by some people and the selfish attitude …. I write about all our legends on my page without them we would not be what we are.
Never! I bow before the Costastician.
Dear Anna / Bernadette/ Costas/Cedars/KINGS MG/Willie/ Jansdad not sure if he is Bisexual! lol.
It was Just me having a wee poke.
its not important is it? He is not a United player and most certainly not a United legend.
Keep it Red, ffs if anybody thinks I am Scott the Red clearly needs to pass around the drugs they are on.
I just like fun, nothing to me is serious, well one or two aspects of United.
@Cedars, Anna
Ah, ok. I must have missed it. I’ll come up with something else, hehe.
@smartalex
It’s my turn to bow. But you are still my acolyte.
I like my new name though, lol.
Anna, don’t let me down.
@willie
I wouldn’t need her for that, lol. Just for one specific thing.
We all live in a yellow (fill the gap)
ANNA
Some of us here are ‘young’ enough to be Becks’ grandads! lol Take it on the chin my friend, smile and have sweet dreams….
Red Scot
As always you crack me up, you said apart from 2 things, Glazers being one? lol
@Costas
Costastician should be your new name from now on…. brilliant by smartalex
EVERYONE just forget this whole blooming farce and read this it will crack you up
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3352103/David-Beckhams-texts-to-Harry-Redknapp-leaked.html
nite all.
CedarsDevil and all
No no no no no
Costakebabalos and that actually sounds Greek
This isn’t a surprise to me. I knew long before and have been sick of these sycophantic beckham fans, who believe his PR. David is a sound bloke, but his PR machine is fucking annoying. It’s the same with England….Becks the true lion…blah blah blah.
McClaren was right to drop him. If scott carson didn’t drop a booboo, he would have been survived to manage england further.
I see we have 5 games in 15 days after this
Birmingham 22 Jan
Blackpool 25
Southampton 29
Aston Villa 1 Feb
Wolves 5
I still think we’ll play the strongest available team on Sunday.
Zzzzz…..
C’mon Scott….the fans would like to know about how’s Valencia recovering…any updates on Hargo…any insights about the spurs game….With no disrespect intended, this is kinda boring, and just plain negative.
Becks hasnt been a United player for years, let him do say whatever he wants to. He’s career is almost sadly over, and I think most of us Red fans, could care less about what he’s up to.
must say there is a right bunch of losers on here too…not even worth talking too
a chimp would make better conversation than some of these apes…..Wlllie whatever you name is I am no bitch so go an take a long walk on a short pier and do us all a favour.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3352227/Harry-Redknapp-David-Beckham-is-a-help-not-a-hindrance.html
Anna – I didn’t call you a bitch. I was referring to Rebecca Loos. I’m inclined to call you a bee atch now, but I’ll refrain from name calling. Big hug from me to you.
Costakebabalos. LOL!
sorry willie nut
I am stressed with this page 2nite
Becks is gone we wish him well
Lets just get on with Sunday and beat Spurs now
and the guy who asked about Valencia its about 6 weeks still
Roo should play on Sunday too
for all the updates join my page I don’t miss a thing.
willierednut – keep them posts coming mate! On a more sensible topic, predictions for Sunday’s game?
Costa epelaname ….lol
yia ton Becks eyo ftaio
nite you crazy lot! I’m outta here took the pill and off to bed.
@Anna
Haha, very good Greek. Don’t worry about it. Someone will always defend Becks. He has and wil always have strong ties with United regardless of what has happened.
he obviously regrets leaving. they always do. and scott, let it go mate. he was a fantastic player for us, cant you just wish him well and forget about it.
this is actually putting me off coming here for a scan through fellow united fan’s thoughts.
please don’t let this become the david beckham show.
he doesn’t even play for us anymore.
and maybe the man has changed his mind. sometimes you have had contradictory quotes of his which were often months and even years apart.
if everything I said was recorded in the media I am sure that over a ten year period I would make myself out to be a complete lying f**ker too. People make bad decisions (leaving united after falling out with Alex Ferguson, obviously, and for whatever reason) and later regret them.
He was a very f**king good footballer in his day and he worked wonders down that right side. Now he is old, he plays for another team, he isn’t going to play against us, so why do you even care?
You are very good at writing a fans view of a match, I love your 10 quick observations and I have loved reading the interviews with other fans (View from the enemy) in the past.
This shit is pitiful though. Schoolgirl stuff
PS concentrate on the football, not the bullshit and I will love you for it
i really can’t believe these people mentioning that non entity woman named. R………..L , what’s the connection? i think some people here are sufferring from psychological problem? ECHOLALIA( REPETITION OF NAMES, THINGS THAT HAPPENNED several years) don’t move backward,move forward.
Speaks the mind of confusion.
When did RoM put the revolving door in?
@ willierednut
alls well with me ,been busy as fuck. what’s happening mate?
Inception
Jaansdad – Same old things mate. The Glazers, new signings and the David Beckham show lol.
wow tons of hostility on the threads today and i’ve been working,fuck how come i always miss all the fun
Only just caught up with this. Important confirmation of what I suspected. The truth will out. Sad though.
Anyone followed Dr. Miko’s link to Dimitri Berbato at the Meeting of the 5 Families?
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_sow_experts__11/ept_sports_sow_experts-533130711-1282248646.jpg?ymGPyoDDOnMq3YIm
Is there something in the stars?
Some reds seem very sensitive today. I am sure we can overcome. If we can’t agree on anything else, at least we all come together over United. Something to be very proud about.
Peace people! (Paix, ομόνοια, խաղաղություն, Friður, Paċi, Paz, Pokoju, ความสงบสุข,vrede)
One Universe United!
i’m 100% with scott on this,beckham was a good player not a legend,but he’s a spin merchant and politican brand beckham has been first for many years. several threads back i asked true red or hypocrite but he’s so polarising very few people will change the way they think of him.so please scott can we please put the beckham articles to bed.
There’s been a few on here wanting to take Beckham’s article’s to bed.
@smartalex lol noticed few women showing up defending him
wille
you hittin on anna?? lol
It’s so funny reading some of the comments on this thread. People wearing Beckham tinted glasses blindly defending this twat.
Ulster Red – All the ladies love Willie.
Evening Wayne. There’s always a 3-ring circus when Beckham is in mind.
I see ‘arry is defending the loan, saying he’s not a distraction. Sure.
willie – ya wee charmer ye.
@wruth03
I should’ve said, ‘a lot of women’. It’s good to see that you can see though him and I’m sure other females do too. Maybe ‘young girls, impressionable adult females, mothers and grannies’. I know a fair amount of fellas, of varying ages who worship him and in their eyes he can do no wrong. Time they all woke up.
I read this site all the time,and love it!
However Enough with Beckham! he doesn’t play for us, so who gives a shit,
I don’t care if he plays for Tottenham,arsenal,la galaxy, all i care about is our team.
Please stop with the Beckham updates =(
I wonder if that was Anna, who was in the big brother house? You never like.
Personally, I don’t worship Becks, or any other player for that matter, but if we are going to be honest about it, how many of those slagging him now did the same before he had his row with Sir Alex? Fergie has fallen out with a lot of players over the years and personally I try not to allow that change my feelings about the. And as I said above, don’t care what Byrne says, God himself couldn’t leave Man United without Ferguson’s approval.
Case closed for me. Predicted line up for Sunday:
Kuszczak, Rafael, Rio, Vidic, Evra – Fletcher, Carrick, Ando, Nani – Rooney, Berbatov.
@smartalex hi mate, i’ll take my hat off to him and his handlers turned him into a icon with imo a ltd skill set.i know you’re a huge beckham fan,i think on the whole he’s a phoney fucker who says the right things for the sake of his corporation but he’s the most famous footballer probably ever.i don’t remember any other footballer going on a tour without a team to promote himself.he’s the sarah palin of footballers not many inbetweens.
MyCowIsTheBest. A revealing quote from your link.
Lampard said: “The end of Scolari’s reign was a bit like this. You lose the feeling of being able to win every week. Once you’ve had that and lose it, it’s hard to get it back.”
Out Ancelotti in Hiddink?
Beckham is an image. Long, long ago he was a real person and a United player.
Some people like gossip magazines, Hollywood and Soaps……..and Beckham. That is there right if they wish to live that way!
Interesting article, but lets leave it at that, please. We are only feeding the Beckham propaganda glam machine.
I just get pissed off seeing endless column inches about this plastic person when we have real honest legends still in the United team.
@costas is scholes fit? thought he might play if he was
Costas = stat and team prediction legend ..
@wayne
I remember hearing that he trained this week, but Ferguson didn’t mention anything about him yesterday. Maybe he will get a spot on the bench? After about a month out, maybe this is not the ideal game to bring him back to the side. I put Fletcher there because we can turn that system to 4-5-1 whenever we want, but on last Sunday’s evidence, I don’t know if I’d pick Fletch over Giggs…
Off topic, go Tunisia ! Mind you they were at the 1978 world cup!! lol
@Cedars
Lol, the 2nd one is wishful thinking! I’ve only got 2 line ups right in 2 years!
@Costas fletch has struggled but is the workhorse and normally shows up for big games,think he’ll start you’re probably right start giggs and scholes on the bench and if things don’t go well have options.
@Costas
Do not under sell yourself you humble man! lol 2 in two years is pure genius… Remember its Sir Alex you are up against !
“Just fucking patch him up” (Sir Alex Ferguson to a club physio after kicking a boot at David Beckham’s head which left him needing stitches above his eye.)
“It was a freakish incident. If I tried it 100 or a million times it couldn’t happen again. If I could I would have carried on playing!”(Sir Alex Ferguson to the media after the incident had happened.)
If you wore an alice band to work in Govan you’d need some patching.
@smartalex,lol alice band in acid house
In other news…
I see South Korea drew 1:1 with Australia. So level with Oz on 4 points after 2 games.
Bahrain have 3 points, India nil. So if South Korea lose to India Ji returns early, otherwise
it’s quarters 21 Jan, Semi 25 Jan, Final 29 Jan. India are not likely to rein Park’s parade.
Jaysus i was just thinking about the latest results in table tennis! ohh well. Life goes on eh!
Ha!
Not been here for a while but this has to be one of the funniest threads ever in terms of comments, it’s like a soap opera – just like the Becks circus
everything to do with beckham is a fucking soap opera
@Tony no disrespect thought ironman 2 sucked
look scott, becks is a man utd legend, dont waste ur time writing this shit.. no 1 cares
You seem obssesed by what man utd players says and what previous man utd players says. Accept that rooney is back, and accept that Beckham is a united great….. He needs to train and he couldnt do it at united, so why not pick spurs.
Again, stuff that isn’t exactly surprising.
COMMERCIAL CONTRACTS CAUSE FOOTBALLERS TO MOVE SOMETIMES? SHOCK!?
FOOTBALLERS CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT PAST DECISIONS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE? SHOCK!?
Scott, seriously mate, you are becoming a bitter, bitter man.
NO… becks was a good player for United that’s it! NOT a legend and am I the only female that thinks he’s not that hot? lol
Someone said something about how the youngns and the ladies will come to his defense. Well, just accurate. Look at how blindly they charge forward to cover his ass.
Scott trying to turn the fans against Becks ? Duh, he said that he loved supporting him and watching him play in United shirt. While its OK for him to wanting to leave, I second Scott’s stand on ITS NOT OK FOR HIM TO LIE TO THE FANS.
Not to mention, taking so many of his adoring fans (later apologists) for a ride and worst sin of all, blaming the whole drama on Fergie. A populist, that guy is. He donned the Green & Gold scarf, endearing himself to the fans, only to claim later that he ‘wasn’t involved’ or something like that, so that the media and the world knows that ‘he’s not one of them’.
Finally, Becks bigger than the club ? Were you on crack on something ? lol
Raizzen
KL
Great article scott lad. Alphars. Hello pal. Ha. I know its hilarious the blind faith in becks and how far some go to defend the sell out corporate lad. Anna. Ha. Some of your posts cannot be serious. The beckham bitching touched a nerve I assume? I have NEVER seen you on here love. If you don’t like swearing then may I suggest you are on the wrong site.
Another thing. At fergies press conference today all the media talked about was spurs. How good under harry they are. How bale is the best player to put on boots. How we may be underdogs. Oh do fuck off talking and
Banging on about over rated spurs. Wankers. They are already eight behind with a game more played. Reckon fergie is talking up their title challenge just to add pressure.
If this man is such a great friend, why is he telling the world that Becks is a liar?
Good article.One thing I like about SAF a lot is he always made decision based Clubs interest. Whether Beckham was forced out or not,He going out was good for the club.I watched every single match 0f 2003.Except for UCL match against Madird he was shit on the field. Things would have been put in different perspective if Ole was not injured in the subsequent period
still a Becks fan like i am of any Utd player who gives so much, but like a lot of modern footballers he has an inflated ego so now that he’s older im sure he does kinda regret the Madrid saga
Morning all. I still have a soft corner for Goldenballs after all that he’s done for us, but let’s not start that debate all over again. On to the Spurs now.
@Costas
2 in 2 years is impressive. I have been at it for a year-and-a-half and got it perfectly right just twice- the 4-5-1 against the Arse, which was fairly obvious, I suppose.
My lineup is the same as yours, with VDS in goal- he has resumed training, hasn’t he?
By the way, am I the only one who’s surprised by Eikrem’s move to Molde? The lad looked quite promising and I was really hoping he’d make the cut. Disappointing.
Becks was great when he played for us. What he does now is none of our business..Simple..
Looking forward to the spurs game..Hope SAF plays Berba aka Andy Garcia..Would love to see him score against his former team..
Beckham is a united legend.But yeah he should not be compared with the likes of giiggs scholes best etc.I dont know why scott is so obsessed with becks.
We have to understand in todays time no player will stick to one club.Everyone like to move on and thats what becks did.I dont give a damn what he is doing now.I will always say becks as a united great unless he speaks something against our club.Same goes for C Ronnie 7 he is also a united legend.Only a stupid and deluded fan of ours will hate him.Everyone cannot be like giggs.
Anyways scott pls write some interesting blogs which are related to current situation in united.But whatever this blog is the best.
UNITED FOREVER
Off topic, but Portsmouth have signed De Laet on loan for the rest of the season.
This article is as pointless as alcohol free beer. David Beckham was great for us and has never ever spoken ill of our club since he left. So who cares whether he wanted to go a year before or the day before he actually went? It’s a white lie in my opinion. Furthermore, who’s to say that SAF didn’t lie to the media about his intentions on selling Beckham? He did lie in the Rooney saga.
So to quote the great George Costanza:
“It’s a moo point. You know, a cows opinion…it doesn’t matter.”
@dela
Yeah Edwin started training yesterday I think. But I went with Tomasz because Edwin might not be 100% yet. Plus, it could be a good opportunity for PIG to prove he deseves to be considered as Edwin’s succesor.
These articles about David Beckham are just getting tiring.
When he was here he did the business.
He has never fucking ever bad mouthed us.
This obsession with proving that Beckham is not all he claims to be has become vindictive.
Oh man, let’s focus people. We have a MASSIVE game tomorrow,and in no matter which angle i’m looking at the game, it’s still massive. We really shouldn’t be talking about Becks- but ah, i can’t resist so i’ll say a line or two. I’m indifferent to his ‘lies’, as Scott has put it, and i still like him, think he’s a legend and a humble lad. And this will stay the same as long as he doesn’t disrespect us. If we can tolerate one disrespectful fella in our own squad, i’m sure we can not bother about one who isn’t disrespectful and (coming to the point)-isn’t even in the squad at all. Sorry mates, i’m still bitter. Haha
On to tomorrow. MASSIVE test.
@Troy
He has never badmouthed us. That’s it. That’s why i don’t understand why Becks warrants so much of negativity. We have one in the squad and we can handle that you know.
Sorry for raking up constipated posts but by coming up with so many articles on Becks, it’s actually proving the point that the media is the one who loves Becks and MAKES him a PR bandwagon etc. It’s tiring. He’s not a red anymore.
Just got home from the night shift at the slaughterhouse…….. where all night as I stuck my knife in i kept calling ‘Dogleash’….funny that aint it….!!
Anyroad up read through this whole blog this morning and was amazed to find you lot being polite to a so named girly girl called Anna. For fucks sake guys it was probably some hairy arsed poofter who plays with his self every time someone says the Becks word….
AND IF HE/SHE GETS OFFENDED SHE /HE CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF/HERSELF
Unless she is really Cheryl Cole in which case ….any chance poppet ??
just a quick one….
Went for a job interview today….
as Cheryl Cole’s bikini hair trimmer….
had to go all the way up to Edinburgh……
job was in London but that’s where the fucking queue started…..
see you fuckers later….
My line up for 2morrows match
Vds(if fit)
Rafeal Vidic rio evra
Nani ando carrick giggsy(legend)
berba rooney
If there has to ba any positive so far this season it has to be rafael.Hell rafael is going to be the best rb in next 2 years.And one more great thing about rafael is he has the ability to score goals.
To all those offended by the attacks on Beckham – stop being so fucking wet. Hes a grown man and can handle himself, he doesn’t need you to defend him. He earns plenty of money for walking around in fucking skirts, looking like Pritchard (Dirty Sanchez) and generally being a bit of a girl. All the press just gives him more money, good news or bad news.
To all those attacking Beckham – He was a promising prospect, his first 4-5 years were excellent but then we won the treble, he was put on a pedestal and he could do no wrong. He was victimised during the world cup (by the anti English establishment FIFA and UEFA), then quite rightly as alot of you say turned into a charley. Reinvented himself on the pitch as the natural successor to Keane (Fail) and got too big for his boots (Rooney?). Just remember the more you slag him off, the more hes in the press. The more he’s in the press the more sponsorships and appearances he does. The more he becomes that type of person you dispise.
All in all he’s had quite a good career (hes no great) but done what every man wants to do, and thats put food on the table for the nippers. Give him some credit, he’s passed that test.
KingOfStretfordEnd
I am really getting pissed off about these attacks on Beckham. He chose to be a celebrity. He chose to live a life that is governed by image. People who choose to live that life will say whatever needs to be said to project the image they wish to have. In short they will often lie. So fucking what.
So Beckham has been disingenuous.
What harm was caused?
Did anybody die?
Did anybody lose their life savings?
Did it cost us a trophy?
To see such hostility directed at a former player who did well for us and who often complements us is upsetting
Yeah I know the reaction that i will get from my statement.but look a Man Utd now-what do you see.Yeah Man Utd is on da top of league with very good position n condition of players. For the back line we got RAFAEl SMALLING EVANS FABIO (if he can make through).In midfield we got Anderson Gibson Cleverley. In attack we got welbeck chicarito kiko.Even I’m not from UK, always want to know about the Man Utd academy latest news. Man Utd been fighting n nurturing talents since the Busby Babes. Anyone can tell me when will I see young players get through? from the academy rather chasing other players. Think before speak.
good article.he was a good player for united but never a legend!shameful that a man with all that wealth was still dominated by the woman.if he was in animal planet he would surely have not been allowed to mate with the females!!!!!
@GoatinaUnitedShirt – eh, the guy can’t defend himself here, but if people (like myself) get annoyed with these constant posts about how he’s a liar and dishonest and never really cared about united then we’ll mention it. It’s getting on my tits when he’s not a united player and hasn’t said anything to stir owt up. Give it a break.
@zalee
You say we dont nurture talent.You must really stupid.In the past 10 years manchester united have been great in nurturing talent.We have got tremendous players who are coming through our academy e.g pogba,morrison,cofie,will keane,petrucci etc etc.Welbeck and cleverley have been doing great this season and will be important players for us in coming season.
I cant understand how you say our academy will not produce players.Our present,furure are both in great condition and only a deluded guy like you will say there is no future with us.You think and speak.
And intentional or not, the title itself is just another slight or as cheap as the headlines surrounding him at the height of his fame/infamy.
Zalee
As your English still requires practice there is a lot lost in translation.
It seems that you are asking about those Academy players who joined United at a young age, and not those that joined at 16 or 17 years old. No one can predict which Academy graduates will break into the First team, or when. But the Academy has been consistently producing top players since SAF revitalized our youth policy. To become a United regular a player needs to be in the top 100 in England (or in the World?)
There are web sites that keep a close eye on our youth, that you may enjoy. For example:
http://www.simplyreds.com/manchester-united-youth-reserves.html
@Always be Closing
I was defending him wasnt I?? I said hes had a good career, provided for his family. For a balanced argument I also said a few things that make him possibly look negative in some eyes. I had ago at those slagging him off and I had a little pop at those that defend him. I gave an argument for both sides, is there anything wrong with that, your argument is only from one camp. Surely a balanced view outweighs an attack on those who have an opinion that disagrees with your own. The point of a forum is not to get upset with peoples views rather learn more, about other views and other people. Wouldnt be much of a forum if we all agreed.
Personally I’m indifferent to Beckham. I feel he has (or has had?) some great qualities on the pitch that at times did/didn’t suit our style of play. He matured as a player and that didn’t suit what we needed, so he left in reasonably good terms. Im not going to overly get on his case about alice bands and skirts because show me a man?? out there that isn’t a gay image of a man from a 100 years back. But at the same time conservatism allows us to progress slowly and more measured when faced with overwhelming liberalism.
whats this obsession you have on becks.. ?!
he loves united and united is his club, but the main thing, he’s a footballer and wants to play football for as long as his body allows.. he’s part of the class of ’92 and should be regarded as a fantastic servant to our club, he’s a big part of united history and I wish him all the best for this.
love reading through youre site.. but this beckham obsession is really annoying!
good riddance David Beckham!
bit serious this morning aint we goat
Morning.
Sorry but it annoys me when people on here “tell” Scott what to write and say “this thread is boring”. Not licking his arse but its his blog and he does what he wants (like United) . Funny thing is if its a boring or needless thread why post on it?
@King Eric
Alright mate. You were up early this morning or maybe you came in late this morning! Ha.
It’s all making me quite naucious to be honest with you. I wonder why Beckham gets worshipped by so many because it ent his football. In 1998/99 he had a great season and he was a great player at United while he was here but the circumstances under which he left United and his PR machine working overdrive blaming SAF for his exit was a disgrace. This was only so United fans would not turn against him. I don’t understand why so many of our faithful don’t see that every move Beckham makes is calculated by his PR people. Whether it putting a scarf on infront of the Stretford End or making comments to the press. Now I’m not gonna blame Victoria and give Beckham an easy way out here. He was a grown man and made the decision he wanted to become a celebrity. Nobody else. I don’t begrudge him for it. But all this stuff like Beckham never wanted to leave United, he always wanted to end his career here, he was pushed out by SAF, and he will always love the club is a load of rubbish.
What’s all this about Beckham being a Legend but not quite the same as Giggs, Scholes, Cantona, Robson, Best, Charlton, Law, etc? You’re either a Legend or you’re not a Legend. Simple as.
@ANNA
Did you have posters up on your wall of him in 1999 when you were 10 years old?
Beckham will never be bigger than United. Unless he becomes worth near enough £1.5 billion your arguement doesn’t even stand.
In regards to academy players coming through. Surely its easier for the academy players of old – Beckham, Nevilles, Butt, Giggs, Scholes, etc etc to get into a team when the team isnt as successful and without the momentum of success. In 95 we had won a couple of league titles (93,94) but the team was aging and it was obvious they werent going to claim a European crown anytime soon. It was easier for those players to get introduced.
Manchester now is the Manchester United that has won 9 more leagues, 3FA cup finals in a row, always doing well in Europe and winning two finals. Its easier for us know to attract Europes finest as they are well aware that Sir Alex is a world class trainer rather than just a league winner. We can sign any player we want and that fits into Fergies plans (please dont discuss whether we have the money or not, no one knows for sure) (and obviously we cant sign Barca or Madrid players as they are at similarly large clubs – unlike 95) unlike in 95. We couldnt sign Batistuta because United were JUST the champions England. Now the Premier League is bigger than Serie A and arguably as good or better than La Liga. If Batistuta was at Fiorentina now he would sign for us in a second and the youth wouldnt get a look in.
You cannot compare the ability of youth entering the team today with them in 95. Its a completely different scenario. If we produce 2 or 3 top players from our youth set up every 5-6 years then we are doing better than most in a similar situation to us.
Legend: an extremely famous or notorious person, esp. in a particular field.
Synonymous with: celebrity, star, superstar, icon, phenomenon, luminary, leading light, giant; informal celeb, megastar.
David Beckham may not be your HERO, but he is clearly a legend.
sucky articel, not good at all, beckham is a hero and it’s just sad that he had to leave united.. leave him alone
Breaking news, a footballer was last night exposed as a lieing self agrandisng media whore.
@Mario (January 14th)
..is completely right all the way, read hes comment
TonyBee says:
bit serious this morning aint we goat
Yeah sorry about that. I woke up at 7am this morning and last night was tucked up at 11pm. I think Ive gone all old or something. Lack of alcohol, I feel sick, clean and shit – the buzzing in my ears has gone, i dont feel my pulse in my knob and arse as I did when on the sauce, even though Im more aware of it now. I have hard stools, I even had a shave. I didnt make any new years resolutions but Ive been lumbered with some. I dunno whats going on. I think its a crisis or something. Sorry mate. I hope i get back to normal soon, Im not sure of this conscious shite.
Get over it Scott.
Let it go Scott.
Sir doth protest too much.
I don’t know if you remember this but I’m pretty sure that United accepted an offer from Barcelona for Beckham before he went to Madrid – they’d offered to make him their captain and build the team around him – but he preferred Real and so that’s where he ended up. I’d have gone to Barca!
AlphaRS 11:19
Great post mate
Yeah get over it Scott so our fans can on in blissful ignorance and believe in dis
Deification of beckham.
Sorry about my last post I’m still drunk from last night and on a train so I’m fucked for typing
well done and salute for the one and only david beckham,anti beckham you can’t put down a good man.more power and to victoria and children.
@smartalex
Well said at 11:27.
all this relentless beckham nonsense…
just watched the carrington revealed show on the busby way… very entertaining. rio is a proper div. both giggsy and rio look a bit fazed chatting to the bird off countdown. lol.
i think it was inside the players entrance there is a 2.5m high poster of bobby charlton on one side and becks on the other. suggests that no one at the club cares too much about this. becks was a legend, moved on for any number of reasons, and the club moved on as well.
if he manages to make himself enough cash to buy the club one day i’m sure the club would be even better…
the nation has become addicted to beckham’s life,no detail is too small,no comment too trivial to generate further opinion and media generalization,it takes HARD WORK,DEDICATION and DETERMINATION qualities that David and Victoria have in abundance.and no one can question he’s loyalty.
Good morning RoM. I had a weird dream last night. Some chick called Anna aka Rebecca Loos, was trying to brain wash me into the sack. Never again I said, after the last time. @Kings Didn’t see your post last night mate, slightly intoxicated lol. I think We’ll beat the spuds 3 1. Can’t see Spurs handling Rooney, Nani and Berbatov.
slightly heard of woman named loos who have a partner and a child now connected to false allegation.
kev e
2 tremendous videos, thanks for the tip.
http://TheBusbyWay.com/2011/01/14/video-giggsy-rio-carrington-revealed/
Good article Scott, learnt a lot I didn’t know on the situation.
LEGEND DB7
Willie
Was it a wet dream? lol
some people said that my English are bad.i don’t mind. but for Ash, i didn’t said that Manchester Utd did not nurture young prospect.did you read my comment clearly or just want to call somebody stupid? what I’m trying to say is what i feel when the news about possebon,tosic & eikrem leaving Utd to improve themselves as a player when Utd are looking for players to replace Giggs,Scholes,Neville & van der SAR. I think I need to add another word: read carefully,think & speak
Wel this whole Backham thing was started by the man himself by going to spurs when he said he wouldnt want to play in the league for anyone else than Manutd. Got to be careful with what u say.becks.
So he has piss off galaxy fans.
At the same time u see a player who wants to play for his country again,looking for a way in.
Harry is being harry, he thinks he can make something of this to benefit his team.
Scott is pissed and so the long well written article.
Tommorow he will be in the stands and the camera will focus on him for sure.
CedarsDevil – No mate, not quite lol.
he is a manchester legend…
lets forget about his deed now,he was once our player and mancunia suppoter whole heratedly…for me he is always an hero regardless what u think eh…
So Byrne’s word is gospel and changing one’s mind is totally out of the question; one must be lying instead.
Poor article, although I suppose it is fit for its purpose, which is purely to encourage comments through strong opinionated writing. Shame that the only way to do that is to slam a genuine bloke and lifelong united fan (who I have met personally).
We all make mistakes.
No matter how many anti-beckham posts you put, there is no denying he was a man united legend. No 2 ways about it, the circumstances he left could have been better for both, but he went. It will be a shame for us, if we write some one as legendary as Beckham in a bad light. He had his personal choices and priorities and went for it. His emotional return to OT last season was testimony to that, United will and always be in his heart, and in ours too.
I will always love Becks
but United>Becks no doubt.
Cue the apprentice music
Scott I regret to inform you after everything that is taken into consideration – you are fired.
Now the ROM can close up shop and no one has to disturb anyone anymore
Ok?
A great article , bang on in my opinion . He was swayed by Posh and the adulation . Although a great player for us , i was sad to see him leave but knew his heart and therefore his game wasnt with us . He did the right thing until he layed blame with the manager . History has now revealed it all .
Scott,
I haven’t read through all the comments, but I totally agree with you that Beckham worked his ticket out of Old Trafford….but I’d like to add that it isn’t a well known FACT that prior to United selling Beckham, they sent a high profile club official to sound out the opinions of a section of the “hardcore fans” about the potential reaction because the club were mulling over selling Beckham.
The said official was told in no uncertain terms that there would be no rebellion because like Fergie, they’d grown sick and tired of the bollocks and the circus which surrounded the player: There was no mass revolt and Beckham was sold without so much as a whimper from the Red Army.
He had the chance to be a UTD legend now he is nothing more than an ex player, a bloody great one in his time but never a legend are we really saying he should be held in the same regard as Best, Law, Charlton, Cantona, Giggs, Scholes come off it.
no one seems to care anymore if someone lies or bullshits,say whatever in the moment.just a reflection of diminishing morales in society.beckham is no different to tons of people,especially celebrities and politicans
Now i understand why scott you are so angry with him. If this is the reason then i have to change my mind as i dont think he is being force out of the club but i still support him as a player. Although i do not like his hollywood image and player bigger than club attitude, he still my idol during my younger days. Like history be history and he will stay in one side of my memories.
Dear Scott
I do enjoy reading ur blog, but i guess its time to drop this Beckham thing.
Not trying to protect David or anything, but when he said :
“I’d have loved to have stayed at Manchester United for my whole career and never gone anywhere else,” Beckham said last January.
“When you are a Manchester United player and a Manchester United fan you never want to play for any other club,” he said in the February.
maybe it was because he regretted his decision to leave United and have realised what a mistake he has made, rather then trying to “rewrite history”.
Ill just say that i remember him for the time at United + his contribution to the team during those years , and the rest of his career dont mean much to me.
Thx for the years at United Dave.
While becks is no saint and goes where money and his wife take him, Fergie isn’t Mr.Goody-Two-Shoes either. Fergie doesnt like any player being bigger than him at Man U. And as they get bigger, they leave the club. In the pretext of getting “good value” for the player, Fergie ensures that he is the only legend around. This happened with Beckham, Ronaldo and almost did with Rooney.
You need to two hands to clap and in this case both Beckham and Fergie played their part.
eplfan
Our incredible success is largely due to Sir Alex.
Beckham did not toe the line so he got the boot.
We would have won little under SAF if he hadn’t been in control.
Fergie decides, players perform, United wins, fans live the glory.
smartalex,
.
I agree that Fergie is a terrific manager, among the best that have plied the trade. But if every player who has left the club, irrespective of their contributions to Man U are vilified for every statement made, then I think Fergies part in their departure should come under scrutiny or at least discussion
But you are absolutely right that the manager needs to have complete control over the club. Though fearing vilified myself, I think Fergie will not always find it easy to get legendary, skilled and obedient footballers like Giggs or Scholes in the modern day of big money football. He will probably retire around that time I suppose.
eplfan
As fans are not really privy to what goes on, and the media is self serving I take the attitude that Sir Alex is right no matter what I hear.
That is me being self-serving, as SAF is Father Christmas around here.
It seems that the Manager has already mellowed and grown with the times, without losing any of his power.
Sir Alex may carry on for a lot longer, maybe until the end of time.
At least, that’s what it will feel like.
The Beckhams are just a couple of jumped up chavs !!! They are the most pretentious and social climbing vile characters you could ever wish to lay your eyes on. I have seen through Vicci Sicci Beckham, a nasty piece of manipulative old haggard bone and crocodile skin and her tramp stamp husband is so full of himself and her and look at us all the time by posing in the media , it is beyond gaudy and horrendous. Money cannot buy class in this case and for eternity. They are still just a self-obsessed chavy couple who jump on the bandwagon and use people to get what they want and to social climb, only the dumb or dumber can’t figure this out!!. People can see through their constant facades and posing and cruelness against others whom are not all sheep and who can think for themselves against this celeb obsessed world !!
Becks the red bull clown of a chav !!!
Come on now…. what do you expect him to say? Beckham and Ferguson have huge amount of fans and they’re pros so whatever happened they’ll not start pointing fingers at one another blaming each other. If you have watched the film Manchester United Beyond The Promised Land you’ll see that in the year of 2000 they started arguing and then people got their confusions of him leaving the club. I don’t know what lies Beckham said through the years but I know for sure that:
1. Beckham truly loves Man United and you can see that everytime he talks about the club (watch his interview after MU – Milan in 2010)
2. He’s one of the best players ever played and if you don’t think so then explain to me how a shitty player would find a place in Man United, Real Madrid and Milan? 3 of the greatest clubs in hystory of football!
Cannot stand him, so highly irritating , he reminds me of a primadonna princess. Beckam and wife are soo highly irritating and chavy, she is as common as muck, just open that big mouth of yours luv.