On April 5th, the FA charged Wayne Rooney with breaking Law 12 after he swore following scoring his third goal.
A Sky Sports camera came on to the field of play and Rooney shouted “what? Fucking what?” at it.
“The FA has today charged Manchester United’s Wayne Rooney for the use of offensive, insulting and/or abusive language relating to an incident during his side’s fixture with West Ham United,” the FA statement read. “Rooney has until 6pm on April 5 to respond to the charge.”
The FA’s charge doesn’t mention a television camera and neither does Law 12.
Nobody is denying that swearing directly at a camera is a worse offence than just being caught swearing after say missing an attempt at goal or falling over. However, Law 12 doesn’t account for this difference.
With the Respect campaign in full flow, you could argue that telling the referee to “fuck off” is a worse offence than swearing at a camera, particularly if the viewing public see the player do this. Law 12 specifies that “using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” is worthy of a red card. Referee Lee Mason claimed he would have sent Rooney off if he heard him swearing.
We’re now confronted with a disgraceful set of double standards, as Rooney could only be charged because of what Mason said in his match report, which was a retrospective comment using video footage. The FA opened up a can of worms. Would referees now send players off for directing “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” at them, like Mason claimed? Would the FA now use video footage to retrospectively punish players guilty of using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language”?
RoM has encouraged people to write to the FA to highlight these double standards every time a player is guilty of breaking Law 12. We have all received more or less a similar response, which talks of how Rooney’s case is different because his language was directed at the camera lens. When we reply reminding them that Law 12 and their charge did not mention a camera lens, they do not respond, which has lead us to get in touch with the Independent Football Ombdusman.
After Joey Barton repeatedly told referee Stuart Attwell to “fuck off” last weekend and no punishment was given by the referee or retrospectively by the FA, we contacted them. In their copied and pasted response, they said: The clear distinction to be made in the Wayne Rooney case is that the language used was directed specifically at a television camera lens, whilst clearly audible to the viewing public.
Again, Law 12 doesn’t account for this distinction, it is a distinction they have created to justify punishing Rooney, but the most interesting part of this reply are the words “clearly audible“.
Kenny Dalglish was guilty of using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” when he told fellow manager, Arsene Wenger to “piss off” at the end of their 1-1 draw on Sunday. This “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” was “clearly audible”. After walking away from Wenger, he was seen saying “fuck off”.
However, the FA have confirmed that they will be taking no action against Dalglish.
An FA spokesman said last night: “We are quite clear that the context of the Rooney incident was wholly different to the other recent incidents cited.”
It’s fairly easy to invent your own rules to punish Rooney. It appears the FA also find it easy to ignore these rules they have invented to allow others to go unpunished.
One rule for us, one rule for everyone else.
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So the FA’s made a fool out of themselves? Oh come on am sure this is the 1st time it happened!
Look the F.A are not going to punish anyone unless they swear into the camera like Rooney did. End of story. Let’s just get on with the rest of the fucking season.
Revenge is a dish best served cold. Winning the league will annoy them so much more.
If we win the title with a game to spare, we should play a reserve team in the last game, then if we score, all 11 of them can go towards one pitchside camera and shout “What, fucking what?!” in unison, while not – of course – looking directly at the camera, just shouting angrily at each other. But really, really loud.
Would be a sight to behold.
Surprise surprise. We will just have to use this as motivation for 19
Rooney will be better for it. United will be better for it.
like quote in the life of brian, he is just making it up has he goes along. Thats the FA for you, one rule for united, one rule for the rest
Darker forces are at work here. Combine the touchline ban for saf with the 2 game ban for rooney and you have the potential for de-railing our season and disrupting our run of form at the most important time. Notwithstanding we should have beaten the bitters without rooney, but the disruption to the team was evident. Part 1 of the FA’s master plan has been completed.
@ kanchelskis – that would be BRILLIANT!
Got to agree with some others on here though, the best response would be to win the league. They already got what they wanted by us going out of the cup (without Rooney obviously)
F.A = Fucking Assholes
£1 billion spent on Wembley and it doesn’t take much to put a hole in the wall.
So, what have the Independent Football Ombudsmand had to say about your arguments? And what kind of power does he/she hold anyway?
Honestly feel the worst part of this entire thing is that the words ‘swear’ and ‘swearing’ are very seriously being used about or in regard to grown adults.
How embarassing for the accusing party.
And not for nothing – but I’m fairly certain that in the hour or so (the entire second half, right? hah) of the Arse/Pool match I was able to catch, Liverpools entire fielded team could have been sent off/retroactively fined or banned if we’re going by this new-found, completely rational ruling.
But really, back to it. Swearing? Fuck off.
waste of time even e-mailing the fa cunts.
got my reply this morning 1 week after: same old copy and paste bullshit.
great idea from kanchelskis above by the way!!
Our refusal, is our strength. We won’t be denied.
Seriously, Wayne should retire from the international game releasing statement to the effect of ‘while I love playing for my country, I cannot do it while the sport is governed by obviously biased and incompetent organizations like the FA’
I have a good feeling about tonight. Think we will score a few goals in the process. L’arse will drop points tomorrow am positive of that, chelski won’t beat Bobby Moore FC or Spurs the following week.
stop whinning,,,rooney deserves his ban so he will learn his lesson..the kid is young and have to learn to control his temper cause people look at him as a idol..because ths people are everywhere in advertisement as a model..as what kenny said piss off..if fa want to ban him…than fergie will be ban for life..lol…come on..stop whinning and concerntrate on epl!!!
It getting fucking worse than silly.
Just look what the cunts at the mail have done now. Hope they all fucking die,. The comments are hilarious. Bitter horrible bastards. Come on United wrap up that 19th title and shut the scum up:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1378327/Manchester-United-boot-Coach-Tony-Strudwick-kicks-hole-wall-Wembley-dressing-room.html
Scott- Keep this up mate. Dont let those bastards at the FA grind us down. Diabolical double standards.
To the Ombudsman
I am writing in response to the Football Association’s apparent double standards regarding offensive, insulting and/or abusive language. Since Wayne Rooney was punished for swearing, I have witnessed many other players swearing, yet the F.A are repeatedly ignoring these events, stating that Rooney’s case is different because he swore directly into a television camera. Law 12 does not state any such distinction between swearing or swearing directly into a camera, therefore it would appear that the F.A are not fit to govern the game, as they are being dishonest. This is the latest blot on professional football in this country, with the F.A having a dark history of favouring other sides when Manchester United are involved.
I and many others are absolutely fed up with the state of affairs and the longer the F.A continues to show bias, the more our game becomes a laughing stock, with most now suspicious of corruption in the game.
I am aware that others have contacted you regarding this embarrassing situation, with your apparent reply being that this is an issue for the F.A to deal with. I would like to point out that the F.A are cutting and pasting the same response regarding law 12 (which is a lie). The F.A, when made aware of this, are ignoring ALL enquiries that point out their dishonesty.
I am therefore asking you what efforts can be made by the ombudsman, on behalf of the fans, to address apparent corruption in the F.A?
just sent my comment to the FA has anyone else had a reply back if they have sent anything before?
Lets just forget about this whole swearing thing and consentrate on the League and Champions League.the FA is not going to punish anybody else for swearing if it’s not done the exact way Roo did it.
King Eric – was reading the link you gave. I had to laugh at that muppet from thailand, the tied is turning, yea it was really turning when liverpool destroyed shitty into the next oblivion, yea with attitudes such has boleteli, slugs like dzeko. Tevez wanting to leave, the shitty victory for them was papering over the cracks that shitty are still in massive trouble, one win in the FA cup does not paint a bright future for a club paying mecenarys not winners.
Number 19 will be nice, but for me, the F.A need sorting out. Something needs to be done. Reinstate Sheffield rules or something. It’s older than the F.A. Bring it back, update the ancient rules. Ignore the F.A as they’re not fit for purpose.
the club will probably get a fine of 100k for damages to the wall! what are the walls made of? cardboard? the FA are an embarrassment. we know it, they know it, everybody knows it.
One rule for us, one rule for everyone else.
The title for us, fuck all for everyone else !!!
On we march to the 19th and the 4th !!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1378475/Martin-Atkinson-referee-FA-Cup-final.html
Atkinson’s reward for fucking us over, is the FA cup final.
Kenny Dalglish has a message to everyone who wanted to see him recieve a reprimand: PISS OFF!
The double standards are present everywhere – not just at the F.A. The whole of England is so jealous of our success that they do anything and everything they can to stop us.
One of the major sources of amusement in my daily life is to visit footballing news websites like Sky Sports, Daily Mail, Mirror, Guardian etc. and randomly open a United related article to look at the comments. Any comment that talks sensibly in favor of United has an absurd amount of thumbs-down while the vice-versa is applicable for any comment that talks shit about United.
I then go at any other article about any other team apart from United (even Liverpool who are closest to us in terms of fanbase and all that), there are not even as many comments as the thumbs-up or down that one comment on the United article has.
I find it absurdly funny that the whole world is so obsessed with the concept of watching Manchester United lose that they can’t be even bothered to comment on their own team’s performances. One of my cousins is a Liverpool supporter and he said he would gladly have Liverpool lose to Arsenal so that they can come closer to us. He also hopes any other team other than United wins the title.
I know the obsession stems from our success but with the growth of the Internet in recent years, the obsession has been bordering almost on paranoia that is absolutely absurd.
Anyways, rant over. Their obsession will count for nothing when we eventually lift the 19th at the end of the season. I guess their obsession is directly proportional to United’s greatest strength which is DEFIANCE.
@Steve, Kenny Dalglish should immediately see a shrink because I am afraid he is delusional. In a recent interview, he said that he believes Liverpool are bigger than Manchester United. Get that a team that has actually won the League 12 times in the past 20 years to a team that has a colossal zero next to their name. If that isn’t delusional, I don’t know what is. Where’s Dr. House when you need him?
willierednut – it gets better and better doesnt it. that sounds fishy doesnt it, his performence against united at stamford bridge was beyond a joke. If there is any doubt the FA and the media are out to linch united the past 2 months have proven this
when we win it rooney should look directly in the camera, smile and say 19 what? 19 what? repeatedly for a minute
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/liverpool/69575/tom-theres-something-you-need-to-know-ex-liverpool-owner-george-gillett-thought-steven-gerrard-was-gay.html
Read this link.
I fuckin knew it.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6884042,00.html
what do we think of this?
kanchelskis – thats a pretty sweet idea
@Steve
You’re a clown mate. If you had half a brain you’d understand that NOBODY thinks Dalglish should be punished at all. And neither should Rooney have been.
That is the whole fucking point.
Turd-for-brains.
Take a chill pill Kanchelskis. Your’e too easy to wind up!
@ King Eric. Weren’t even a hole mate, was a fucking scratch no more than 3 inches in diameter. That could have happened in a number of different ways. The media in this country is less fact and more Chinese whispers.
Balaji. To Dalglish Liverpool will always be the no.1 team – because he loves them. Get it?
He doesen’t need a shrink.
@Steve
I’d rather be easily wound up than completely lack the mental capacity to understand the rather straightforward rhetoric behind the ‘swearwatch’ campaign.
Like I said… Turd-for-brains.
@ Balaji 12.34. Excellent post. Summed up my feelings perfectly. Any reasonable argument gets a minus 50 but calling us scum is plus 112. Thats why I don’t even bother with opposition fans, everyone thinks their right no room for discussion so fuck em. That includes you as well Steve so go post your opinions on a Daily Fail website. Nobody here cares what you think.
Fuck FA anyway, United will be the ones smiling when they lift the 19th trophy!
You’ve got to praise The FA for their consistency though.
G’day Reds
I’m back
This is all I have to say and pay attention:
This was about children right?
Well then Trevor Brooking is saying to the children that their is a distinction between saying fuck off by one person and fuck off by another person
Any fucking dumb ass idiot motherfucker son of a bitch who defends this is well a fucking dumb ass idiot motherfucker son of a bitch – get it
By the way this is Scott’s line of the year in reference to the FA
“In their copied and pasted response”
Bravo
In United I trust.
I’m surprised the FA didn’t give Scholes a 4 match ban instead of a 5 match ban. We have to go out and win every game convincingly because rest assured if a game is hanging in the balance a ref will definitely give a dodgy decision against us. That’s why it is imperative we win the next 2 games. Then see where it brings us when we visit the Emirates. Those cunts will probably go all out to injure our players to stop us vs Schalke and perhaps beyond.
sorry to go off topic because this story is getting old, we already know the frivolous association made up this rule just for us and no other clubs players or managers will be punished for this.
but this is what i want to see in our midfield very soon i hope we rap up 19 before the blackburn or blackpool game so they could get a run out.
Paul Pogba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUavRNO0ECM
Ravel Morrison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qFeyUzHfac
It is said that the 3 inch hole in the wembley wall has rendered the entire stadium as structurally unsafe and now united will be sent a bill for the total cost to replace the entire stadium.
United will have 2 days to respond. If they choose to appeal and lose the hearing, the penalty will also include the replacement of stamford bridge
Martin Atkinson – the not so “strong and fair” referee – is to be in charge of the FACup final.
Anyone know the result from the U18 semi-final ?
Scott, I think its great what you are doing. It just goes to show that the FA are being run by a bunch of idiots who do not know anything about rules and what they mean.
Give me half of what they are getting and I can probably run it better than them.
4 more wins to go.
First off, what does the rule book say about teams that aren’t Manchester United.
Second, as I said: The FA – Fucking us over since 1863
I really hope when we win the league Fergie looks directly down the camera and says “Told you I’d knock them off their fucking perch!”
@r8devil
Don’t think the GD gap is quite big enough to say ’4 more wins to go’ just yet.
However, if we do the biz tonight, and Spurs at least hold Arsenal tomorrow, then 3 wins from the last 5 will do it, effectively meaning we can lose to Arsenal and Chelsea.
I’m sure there are some decent one’s amongst you, but generally United fans are exactly what the majority of opposition fans think they are – paranoid and bitter!
This is what I have to say to those sort of people who between them adds a million years…………..FUCK THE FUCK OFFFFF………………….
Steve
And, as we’ve established, you’ve got turd-for-brains, so don’t be surprised if your shitty little opinion is completely ignored, both here and in the wider world.
Bye, now.
FA wanted United to loose against shitty. They managed and give a shit about conequenses. Cunts
Afternoon all true REDS
Nothing surprises me anymore when it comes to the FA…. Lets do the job tonight and I really believe that 6 points from the next 2 games would seal the title…
UNITED, not a football club but a way of life…
I always find it hilarious how obsessed the opposition is with us. Not to mention the media. Most of these pathetic cunts have achieved fuck all and to see United be so consistently successful, well I imagine it amounts to petty jealousy. These are the type of people who think, oh fucking hell my neighbour has an m3, guess ill buy an m5. Jealous cunts. Personally I just get on with stuff, I rarely look at something someone else has and covet it, I’m quite happy with things as they are. But the anti-united bias is reaching an all time high, I’ve never known it to be so venemous. Shock horror! Manchester United have put a 3 inch scratch in Wembleys wall, this is a national disgrace. Oh right ok, so Cole shooting someone is just an accident then? Jesus Christ, no wonder this country is so fucked. And this is why not living in Manchester anymore is unbearable for me. I miss it everday, mainly because of the only sensible people I know a.k.a reds, so I just want to thank you all for retaining your sanity and being really class people. Keeps me sane when I read the Daily Fail comments. They make me laugh so much. Reason goes out the window. And personally I think that it should be rechristened the Daily Outrage, lets be honest thats their permanent state of mind. A chip shop in Stockport is considering getting rid of salt? Quickly Jenkins you blithering idiot, run a front page headline of “Salt Banned In Chip Shops”, then we shall really rile the common people. To finalise my rant, I just want to say we don’t get enough credit. When was the last time we finished outside of the top 3? When has their ever been a crop of players such as Red Nev, Scholesy and the evergreen Sir Ryan achieved so much in English Football? You look at Bale winning that tin cup or whatever it is, and he isn’t even fit to lace Scholesys boots. That goes for odd body as well who won the happy meal tin cup. Last but certainly not least, I want to say that I love Manchester United and I love all of you who share this passion with me. We’ll never die.
There is no way to stop the RED Blitz, FA can say or put any rule to stop the RED wave but they are now under the red water!
Come on UNITED!
Scott, this is just embarrassing, mate. Let it go.
Hi Scott, I’ve put in a few conplaints to the FA and had I think 1 reply, I thinl we all knew it would zero effect and what was just an excersise in pointing out the FA’s hypocrisy, can I suggest a different tactic, when we have won the 19th, every one that cares too, send the them a message through the website along the lines of,
Well depsite the best attempts by the FA to throw our season off track with its blatant double standards in the application of its rules, we got what we wanted, title number 19.
So ban Fergie for 5 games but ignore everyone else or hand out lesser punishments, ban Rooney by inventing a sub clause in your own rules, ban Rio for missing a drugs test but ban people who’ve acutally failed them for less and whatever happened with Toure?
Respect the game, are you sure?
Steve says:
I’m sure there are some decent one’s amongst you, but generally United fans are exactly what the majority of opposition fans think they are – paranoid and bitter!
But not deluded, I refer you to your previous posts on another thread, the one that us dropping 10 points out of the last 18 available.
excellent post bobbycharlie
for all those on here saying forget the rooney incident and move on, let me point a few things out.
1) the media and the fa are trying to change their story to suit what fits them.
2) if united are being punished for speaking up, then the fans should take this battle further.
3) we should clearly state that kenny and others should not be banned, but this should of also applied to rooney
4) its annoying the press, commetators alike ( martin lewis, alan green, mick (stutter) dennis, so for that alone its worth it, it takes up there time.
5) under the freedom of information act can we ask to see what bernsteins invovlement in the punishment was.
6) Again under the FOI act, can we ask sky is A) the camera man in the rooney incident asked approached rooney, (its keep being reported that rooney sort the camera out) and if spoke to rooney at all eg , asking him to kiss the camera. B) why was different editoral decision taken with rooney and daglish and others who swore, this same question can also be asked of MOTD, someone in the sky backroom ultimately decides what us the viewer wants to see, and what sells papers.
In essence lets continue to be a pain in the arse to these knobheads.
Steve
Thanks for assuming that there may be some decent United fans out there, I am so full of appreciation that I am lost for words.
You do though come across as some what of an ignorant idiot
I never expected a ban on dalglish.He’s not the United Manager
kanchelskis @ 14:05: “if we do the biz tonight, and Spurs at least hold Arsenal tomorrow, then 3 wins from the last 5 will do it, effectively meaning we can lose to Arsenal and Chelsea.”
Another way of looking at this is that if UTD can win the last six EPL games then they will come first with a ten-point cushion – and maybe, just maybe, TheArse might miss out on the fourth CL spot. Who’d believe that the “crap” could rise to the top and that the purveyors of self-proclaimed “beautiful footie” could end up in the EuropaCup along with LiverPoo. Think great thoughts !
@Steve
When its time to dish out punishments and create scapegoats, who can argue the FA treat United the same as other Clubs? They freely admit they must be seen to punish us as we are the biggest Club in England, meaning we are often treated differently when our shit hits the fan. So our beef with the FA isn’t us being Bitter or Paranoid, its perfectly rationale. Alex Ferguson has received the longest ban this season, but has he had the strongest words for Referees after the match? Of course he hasn’t, but he is the great Sir Fergie and he must be made an example of. At best its unfair and at worse its fucking sinister.
denton davey
Haven’t you heard? United aren’t going to finish in the top 4 this season… Piers Morgan said so.
Fucking cunts at the Sun. Called them today like Kings to ask why the fuck they can NEVER call Fergie “Sir Alex”. The conversation went like this:
Sun: Hello Sun News Desk
Me: Yeah just wanna ask a question. Why does your scum paper NEVER refer to Fergie as Sir Alex and always Ferguson?
Sun: Err we use both titles.
Me: Whose we?
Sun: Us reporters
Me: Which one are you?
Sun: What does that mean? sarcastically
Me: Its quite an easy question. Which reporter are you. You said “us”?
Sun: That doesnt matter.
Me: Yes it fucking does
Sun: Do you buy the Sun?
Me: No. Just read the one at work, why? Anyway which reporter calls Fergie, Sir Alex? That fat cunt Custis most certainly doesnt neither does Howard.
Sun: Weirdo.
He then hung up.
The fucking cheek of this two bit paper. Is that how they address everyone? Disgrace.
I then called AGAIN. This time it was a woman. I said excuse me but I dont appreciate being called a weirdo. She said am I the one who called them scum? I said yes. She just tutted and hung up again.
I aint gonna let this lie.
Bastards.
Long John O Shea – What do we think that to that Gonzeles story? Err not alot mate considering he hardly pulled up trees at the dippers.
In many ways, the competition have failed us. We’re like General Zod – “I win. I always win. Is there no one on this planet to even challenge me? “.
I’ve said it before but all the hateful ABU daily fail monkeys that ‘like’ bollocks statements that are detrimental to and ignorant of our superiority in this increasingly less competitive ‘league’ should concentrate their efforts on their own teams. We did that. Bloody hell, we even stopped the drinking culture within the team and that must have been deeply ingrained. There was no way we would ever consider Liverpool’s position at the top as being something that we couldn’t do something about – internally. Yes we (perhaps correctly) accused them of playing boring football with their predictable side foot passing, but this was born of a love for our entertaining play. My older brothers pointed this out to me when I first started to resent Liverpool’s success. Things could have been different, we might not have bothered changing things, we might have done without all the expensive academy investment. We might even have brought in various managers instead of getting Sir Alex. We could have done nothing to address Liverpool and their perch and accepted that things would never change. We could have vainly tried to console ourselves by concentrating our efforts on hating Liverpool, spending our days ‘liking’ stupid comments about Liverpool in the daily mail, burying our heads in the sand and not facing up to the fact that it’s up to us to change things.
I got an email response this morning, so I replied with the following:
Email from FA:
FAN: 57224684
RE: “Swear Watch”
Thank you for contacting The Football Association.
The FA takes a dim view of any foul and abusive language used at football matches. The clear distinction to be made in the Wayne Rooney case is that the language used was directed specifically at a television camera lens, whilst clearly audible to the viewing public. We will always take a view on every incident reported to us by match officials, who also have the ability to apply Law 12 in relation to insulting and abusive language or gestures.
The FA values the opinions of football supporters and we thank you for getting in touch with us to share your views.
Kind regards
My response:
Hello,
So it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is a Manchester United player? Because since his punishment, there have been many more instances of audible swearing. Kenny Dalglish was clearly seen swearing at Arsene Wenger last Sunday, not once, but twice. So will you be taking a dim view on that or will you overlook it as neither of them represent Manchester United football club?
Regards,
Kingsley P Vithane
willie – Was Leeds fan scum Atkinson given the job PRIOR to Saturdays game? If so then it is abundantly clear the FA were gonna fuck us over. How the fuck can a referee after such inept performances be given quarter final European ties and now a fucking Cup final? It fucking stinks.
Balaji – Hello mate. Oh I know fella. Most United threads have about 60 or more comments. The other clubs struggle to get one, Its laughable.
Kings – Did you get anywhere with the Sun that time?
denton – Under 18 semi final tomorrow night mate.
watch that cunt Atkinson give City a free run towards the Fuck All trophy just to piss us off.
bobbycharlie1968 – Great post mate. I have been saying for a while. Aside from Eric’s night at Selhurst I cannot recall the abu’s being THIS bad toward United. Ever.
Kings & King Eric on fire……….. I love it
Kings – Hello mate. Is that your name? Kingsley P Vithane?
Just did. I had to puke a couple of times before going on to register the fuck off as the FA fan. I was just too lazy to come up with my own shit therefore I copied Scott’s lines:
Kenny Dalglish was guilty of using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” when he told fellow manager, Arsene Wenger to “piss off” at the end of their 1-1 draw on Sunday. This “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” was “clearly audible”. After walking away from Wenger, he was seen saying “fuck off”.
I am sure The FA will have something to act upon basing on the fact that Mr. Wayne Rooney was recently meted out punishment on what was quite similar in nature of what I had just reported above.
I trust your good judgment on the matter.
Thank you.
King Eric – They cut me off when I called them cunts for their incorrect addressing of Sir Alex. I’ll be calling them again soon, I can assure you of that mate.
In response to your question about Atkinson, yeah he was appointed the ref for the Final after the semi-final draw was made. I said in a previous thread that we would have to get past two of the biggest anti-unted cunts in Mike Dean (scouse bastard) and Martin Atkinson (Leeds scum bastard) if we was to win the FA Cup.
Oh yeah, did you have any luck with the Daily Mail after I sent you their contact details mate?
Cheers Cedars mate!
King Eric – Yes my friend.
haha @ King Eric 15.02 QUALITY
the Sun is a Fucking disgusting Rag, and in its own way it represents everything wrong with this Country.
CedarsDevil – Hello mate. We aim to please!
Kings – Couldnt get through mate. Was on hold for ages so fucked it off. The arrogance of the Sun holds no bounds. I was fucking furious. It may be a bit “weird” to them but its high time they started addressing him correctly. Making out like he was the one responsible for the pathetic “stratch” in the dressing rooms.
Kings – Top name pal. It sound quite aristocratic.
Ha ha, Durham saying Liverpool are the best club in England and possibly the world. Comparing them to Barcelona, in terms of bringing through young players. Closet dipper, or what? He’s basically sucking Dalglishs bell end.
Whats going on here? According to Steve we are both paranoid and bitter….
willie – You are fucking joking? What the fuck is that ginger cunt basing it on? Stevie me and Carragher? Oh he will be getting giddy over the two fullbacks I assume.
God I fucking hope we win number 19.
King Eric – Love that post at 15.02 mate. Fucking cunts the lot of them. Forgot to say, a few years ago they had a guy on the paper stall selling the Sun newspaper. He asked me if I wanted one. I said: ‘You must be joking pal, them fucking cunts are not getting my 30p towards their wages, especially as they insist on calling the great man by his incorrect name’
King Eric
No need to hope buddy, we WILL win no 19 and shove it up their hateful asses……
Just need us that banner up at OT which would say ‘ What? Fucking What?’
Kings – Nice one. Cheers pal.
Cedars – Oh of course we will mate. Dont want to count my chickens just yet. I have a feeling United may be angry tonight and take it out on Newcastle.
Willie – Why the fuck is Durham talking about the dippers?
King Eric – He’s backing up Dalglishs statement, that they’re the best club in world. Of course, they’re a big club, but not the biggest in the world. We all know what king sour gob is doing here, he’s playing to the gallery. Liverpool fans will lap all this shite up. Lets bag the 19th, and shut the fuckers up, for a while, anyway.
King Eric – Thanks mate. I was born here, but my parents are from Sri Lanka. Them bastards at the Sun love to be demean the great man and they take great pleasure in doing it as well. As I said before mate, they had no problems in calling Sir Bobby Robson by his correct title and even more so with Brooking, who has become loud and opinionated recently. I really want us to bag this title and give these cunts the biggest slap in the face.
willierednut – The ignorance of some people eh? That Ginger cunt has obviously forgotten the amount of money that potato head cunt Benitez spent on pony players and literally fucked off the youth set up in his time there.
I got this response from the FA today:
Thank you for contacting The Football Association.
The FA takes a dim view of any foul and abusive language used at football matches. The clear distinction to be made in the Wayne Rooney case is that the language used was directed specifically at a television camera lens, whilst clearly audible to the viewing public. We will always take a view on every incident reported to us by match officials, who also have the ability to apply Law 12 in relation to insulting and abusive language or gestures.
The FA values the opinions of football supporters and we thank you for getting in touch with us to share your views.
Kind regards
Customer Relations Team
The FA Group
Wembley Stadium, Wembley, London, HA9 0WS
Brooking is an idiot. Saying Dalgish completely different to what Rooney did. Yeah swearing/abusive language targeted towards your opponents/ counterpart manger is so much different from Rooney saying fuck into a camera. I mean this sets such a great example for kids right, that it is okay at the end of the game to show lack of sportsmanship and it’s okay to react in the manner Dalgish did even if Whinger did something to illicit it.
What an absolute hypocrite. Neither situation is a good representation for kids if that is really what he is concerned about. One could say that Dalgish should know a lot better than Rooney, knowing the camera is going to be on him at the end of a game like that but, he reacted with abusive language.
Rooney got what he deserved but, absolutely ridiculous how people keep saying his behaviour is any worse than so many on the field. There are cameras everywhere and they all know it’s being captured, doesn’t matter if they are looking into the camera or not. There is no different context – it’s bad behaviour on the field period. If Rooney does it, it can’t be condoned (well it can if he does it in an England shirt) but, if others do it – well it’s part of the game and they didn’t do it looking into a camera
^^ got the same. Note the fact that they say they have the “ability” to use law 12 basically implying that it doesn’t always apply and they can apply it whenever they like for eg. in the case of anyone from Manchester United.
I would not say that their is a systematic targeting of United by the FA but I will say that United are often and awfully unfairly used and made examples of where others are given a slap on the wrist. This is because the FA like to use United’s success to make a large example. Worst part is that the examples once set are not enforced on others as well.
It’s interesting that some of you think that United get a raw deal from the powers that be. Rooney’s elbow on the Wigan lad anyone? Punished…………….er, no.
I agree that Carragher could easily of got a red for his challenge on Nani at Anfield, which just goes to show that all clubs get away with some things sometimes but not all clubs have a player with turds for brains (in keeping with Kanchelskis’s favourite expression of the day, and probably the only one he knows) like Rooney who shouts the F word directly down a camera lens, do they?
If it wasn’t for Chelsea’s Russian fairy godmother, United would already be ahead of Liverpool in titles won, that much is true. But how many times have both Liverpool and United finished as runners up in the history of this wonderul game? A delve into the history books is needed to answer that, but I’m sure that is quite even between the two clubs too.
If you asked Dalglish and Fergie which club they respect above all others, and they were prepared to give an honest answer, I reckon Kenny would say United and Fergie would say Liverpool. Stands to reason given the two clubs respective history and intense rivalry.
Liverpool will be better next season, that’s a dot on the card.
@KIng Eric
I bow at your feet mate. Or your balls, lol. I can’t believe you called them scum to their face.
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Law 12 does not say anything about cameras
Liverpool fans on here, can only mean one thing, they’re getting nervous, as we approach our historic 19th title. I suppose It’s nice, king sour gob will witness this.
Fair enough Willie, I would probably be saying that sort of thing if I were in your position. But number 19 is not in the bag just yet, you know!
The main reason I am visiting this site is for a bit of banter with rival fans. If any of you are really pissed of by it, then fair enough, I’ll stop posting. After all this is a MUFC site.
You sometimes get United fans on other clubs blogs, and some of them are objective in thier views, as I’m sure some of you are.
So what will the final score be at St. James’s park tonight then?
I didn’t say it was in the bag. We’re getting close though. Whats my prediction? A WIN! For Man United.
@ Steve: Nobody is denying that all clubs get away with some stuff sometimes but United are made an example off more often than any other club in the recent past. Rio’s 9 month ban is another example of massive double standards if you truly read up about it. And on swearing everyone knows how much of it goes on in football and nobody will deny that swearing at the camera is bad and maybe worse than swearing in general if not worse than visibly swearing at the ref BUT their is no rule to say that. Rule 12 as Scott has pointed out is about swearing in general. The fact that the FA state that they CAN apply it instead of stating that it always applies smacks of a bias.
Steve – Have to agree that Fergie and Dalglish would each say Liverpool and United respectively . As much as I hate Liverpool I have more respect for you than the rentboys and City.
Costas – Cheers mate, but not strictly to their faces. It was over the phone!!
@King Eric
It was still ballsy mate.
Are there any Manchester MP’s available and that fans know of? Maybe even some United fans that are MP’s ? Since the FA don’t want to touch this and the media have reopened the inquisition, it would be fun/intersting to get this whole situation discussed in Parliament – since it is bordering on corrupion
I would just like to say if u go back to the champions league game against Chelsea in the 58min and 5sec u clearly hear very audibly JOHN TERRY. shout Fucking come on at a linemans when he doesnt give him the freekick i just thought i would point that out but nothing was brought up about it at all
xol-ha funny as fuck mate. I’m proud of this site flying the flag on this matter, the Fa won’t do anything but it just shows how much this means that we keep up the fight. And the rest can “fuck off-fuck offfff”
i got this from the f.a this evening
Thanks for your email.
Referees are never forced to review their decisions. Fundamentally, when a referee has seen and dealt with an incident – regardless of the outcome – The FA are unable to act retrospectively. With the example of Wayne Rooney, the referee confirmed he had never seen or heard the incident, and the only comments he made on the matter were to confirm that if he had seen the incident then he would have sent him off.
With regards to comparisons with other players swearing at an official, then it is in the rules that the referee can take action against them, but if he chooses not to then that is their decision. In a case such as the Wayne Rooney incident, with it being so unique in the fact that he ran intentionally towards the camera and swore directly into it, we felt that he had to be disciplined under the rules retrospectively.
There is a system in place for monitoring the performance of referees and referee’s assistants. This involves referees assessors and reports from club managers. All assessors come from a footballing background and the majority are fully qualified referees themselves. The performances of referees over a season are then taken into consideration when the leagues appoint their referees for the following season.
The Select Group officiates in the Premier League and is the responsibility of Mike Riley, General Manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL). Premier League refereeing enquiries should be addressed to Mike Riley, The Premier League, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL or via info@premierleague.com.
I hope this explains the matter for you.
Kind regards,
Gary
King Eric. I think most Liverpool and United fans do have more respect for each other than any other club though I find that most of them don’t like to admit it. Kudos to you for doing so.
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When Chelsea or Arsenal have lifted old big ears even once, I will gladly give them credit for doing so.
Someone asked me the other day who I thought would become the first London club to lift the European cup. I thought about it for about ten seconds and then gave my answer………………….. Queens Park Rangers!
@ Karun. The Rio Ferdinand ban is an interesting one. As A United fan, I can understand you feeling it was a case of the authorities punishing him more severely because he is a United player – but it would be interesting to see what would happen if a Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool player failed to show up for a routine drugs test. We may never find out but if it did happen my guess would be that he would get the same as Ferdinand got.
We all think our own clubs get a raw deal, but in the Ferdinand case there is no direct comparison to be made – at least not yet anyway!
Perhaps there may be some hope with Ballotelli at City – he doesn’t seem to be the sharpest tool in the box, does he? That’s if he sticks around at City long enough to be tested!
This is seriously the worst thing. Just drop it. It’s embarrassing.
Everyone should yell fuck off at Atkinson the next time he’s as OT.