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		<title>By: DAVE BAKER</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE BAKER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were born to support one team, and thats Manchester United, FC are worse than Manchester City fans, at least they support one team.

Mr Walsh and Co, what a joke, leaving Manchester United, enough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were born to support one team, and thats Manchester United, FC are worse than Manchester City fans, at least they support one team.</p>
<p>Mr Walsh and Co, what a joke, leaving Manchester United, enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruudness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruudness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott. Despite saying otherwise, you clearly think that FC was formed because United were “in decline”.

Now if you were the “top red” you think you are you would not consider a mere two years without a Title “in decline”. I find your “about” page astonishing: “The blog was intended to reflect the more optimistic United fan, who didn’t feel as though we were dead and buried…despite going another year without winning the league”.

Many of the people who watch FC United saw United go over twenty years without winning a title. These people didn’t lose interest or stop going because the team weren’t winning much. And I can guarantee none of them thought United were “dead and buried” after three years without a league title (three years which included three domestic cup finals).

So you are wrong in a big way on two counts. Firstly, proper United fans wouldn’t consider United to be in decline in 2005. And secondly, such fans wouldn’t stop going even if United were in decline.

The reason FC wasn’t formed in 1999 is that the hostile bid was defeated. It is not because United won the Treble. You say you would feel different if FC had been formed in 2000, but the only difference between 2000 and 2005 is that United won something in 2000.

Surely not even you believe that a group of fans would drop nine divisions and watch Counties football just because United went a season without winning anything. So why would 2000 have been so different to 2005? Don’t you think the catalyst might have been the Glazer takeover, and not the absence of trophies?

If you accept that is was the takeover that broke the camel’s back, then you can now understand why FC didn’t happen in 2000.

An extremely poor article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott. Despite saying otherwise, you clearly think that FC was formed because United were “in decline”.</p>
<p>Now if you were the “top red” you think you are you would not consider a mere two years without a Title “in decline”. I find your “about” page astonishing: “The blog was intended to reflect the more optimistic United fan, who didn’t feel as though we were dead and buried…despite going another year without winning the league”.</p>
<p>Many of the people who watch FC United saw United go over twenty years without winning a title. These people didn’t lose interest or stop going because the team weren’t winning much. And I can guarantee none of them thought United were “dead and buried” after three years without a league title (three years which included three domestic cup finals).</p>
<p>So you are wrong in a big way on two counts. Firstly, proper United fans wouldn’t consider United to be in decline in 2005. And secondly, such fans wouldn’t stop going even if United were in decline.</p>
<p>The reason FC wasn’t formed in 1999 is that the hostile bid was defeated. It is not because United won the Treble. You say you would feel different if FC had been formed in 2000, but the only difference between 2000 and 2005 is that United won something in 2000.</p>
<p>Surely not even you believe that a group of fans would drop nine divisions and watch Counties football just because United went a season without winning anything. So why would 2000 have been so different to 2005? Don’t you think the catalyst might have been the Glazer takeover, and not the absence of trophies?</p>
<p>If you accept that is was the takeover that broke the camel’s back, then you can now understand why FC didn’t happen in 2000.</p>
<p>An extremely poor article.</p>
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		<title>By: suhayl</title>
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		<dc:creator>suhayl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In life you sometimes have to make stand. The FC fans havent abandoned utd. Believe me they still adore utd...support utd....but they made a stand for they felt was right.

I respect that. I tried my best in vain with them too to stop the takeover. 

I love my Man utd. And no matter gill glazers or whoever. That will never change. As the song goes...we&#039;ll never die. No matter what will come...the red flag will keep flying high. i support the badge...that team because it is man utd.

However i give my full support to FC too. I go to watch games etc. WHY? because they are still utd fans..because FC is not a seperate entity in my opinion.

i like to see them as a little brother...a branch of the Man utd tree.

Sometimes however futile in the end you have to make a stannd for what you believe.  And i admire that.

FCUM MUFC.....

Many very apt and passionate comments on the topic...agree with so many guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In life you sometimes have to make stand. The FC fans havent abandoned utd. Believe me they still adore utd&#8230;support utd&#8230;.but they made a stand for they felt was right.</p>
<p>I respect that. I tried my best in vain with them too to stop the takeover. </p>
<p>I love my Man utd. And no matter gill glazers or whoever. That will never change. As the song goes&#8230;we&#8217;ll never die. No matter what will come&#8230;the red flag will keep flying high. i support the badge&#8230;that team because it is man utd.</p>
<p>However i give my full support to FC too. I go to watch games etc. WHY? because they are still utd fans..because FC is not a seperate entity in my opinion.</p>
<p>i like to see them as a little brother&#8230;a branch of the Man utd tree.</p>
<p>Sometimes however futile in the end you have to make a stannd for what you believe.  And i admire that.</p>
<p>FCUM MUFC&#8230;..</p>
<p>Many very apt and passionate comments on the topic&#8230;agree with so many guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Zutroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zutroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I don&#039;t understand this &quot;if they were formed after the treble season i&#039;d have more respect for them&quot; diatrabe. For once, let&#039;s look at the facts shall we?

By your logic, MUFC&#039;s &quot;worst season since 2005&quot; was in fact in 2002, when we also finished 3rd and won fuck all. We didn&#039;t even have a cup final to fall back on. So why wasn&#039;t FCUM formed back then?

Also, if we&#039;re so affected by the lack of success at Old Trafford, why are FCUM&#039;s attendances this season currently at a higher average than this time last season, despite Manchester United becoming the Champions of England AND Europe in 2008? Shouldn&#039;twe have all come crawling back by now? 

FC United is more than just about money and the cost of OT. As you said yourself in your own article, it&#039;s more to do with the state of top-flight football across the country. The catylist for the club&#039;s formation was obviously the Glazer takeover (which is why we formed in 2005, geddit?) but ask anyone at FC and there are a million reasons why we now prefer to watch football at non-league level, whilst still feeling art of the United family. 

Come along to an FC game one day Scott, meet some of the fans face-to-face and if you still have the same opinions as before after that, then so be it. At least this time you won&#039;t have built them on hearsay and half-truths. Who knows, you might even enjoy yourself. Thousands of your fellow reds do every week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I don&#8217;t understand this &#8220;if they were formed after the treble season i&#8217;d have more respect for them&#8221; diatrabe. For once, let&#8217;s look at the facts shall we?</p>
<p>By your logic, MUFC&#8217;s &#8220;worst season since 2005&#8243; was in fact in 2002, when we also finished 3rd and won fuck all. We didn&#8217;t even have a cup final to fall back on. So why wasn&#8217;t FCUM formed back then?</p>
<p>Also, if we&#8217;re so affected by the lack of success at Old Trafford, why are FCUM&#8217;s attendances this season currently at a higher average than this time last season, despite Manchester United becoming the Champions of England AND Europe in 2008? Shouldn&#8217;twe have all come crawling back by now? </p>
<p>FC United is more than just about money and the cost of OT. As you said yourself in your own article, it&#8217;s more to do with the state of top-flight football across the country. The catylist for the club&#8217;s formation was obviously the Glazer takeover (which is why we formed in 2005, geddit?) but ask anyone at FC and there are a million reasons why we now prefer to watch football at non-league level, whilst still feeling art of the United family. </p>
<p>Come along to an FC game one day Scott, meet some of the fans face-to-face and if you still have the same opinions as before after that, then so be it. At least this time you won&#8217;t have built them on hearsay and half-truths. Who knows, you might even enjoy yourself. Thousands of your fellow reds do every week.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that you have such a strong personal opinion of me, when you actually know fuck all about me. The fact that I have an opinion that is very different to yours doesn&#039;t mean I believe my opinion is the only valid one. I don&#039;t agree with thousands of fans turning their back on the club when we were at our lowest point in nearly two decades. Had they decided to do it out of principle in 2000, I imagine my feelings would be different. Not entirely different, but more sympathetic to the cause, yes.

I&#039;m more surprised that you keep coming back to my blog to respond to what I&#039;ve got to say, again, odd behaviour considering you think so little of me and my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that you have such a strong personal opinion of me, when you actually know fuck all about me. The fact that I have an opinion that is very different to yours doesn&#8217;t mean I believe my opinion is the only valid one. I don&#8217;t agree with thousands of fans turning their back on the club when we were at our lowest point in nearly two decades. Had they decided to do it out of principle in 2000, I imagine my feelings would be different. Not entirely different, but more sympathetic to the cause, yes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more surprised that you keep coming back to my blog to respond to what I&#8217;ve got to say, again, odd behaviour considering you think so little of me and my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Clammyhands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clammyhands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re saying FC United is a good idea but the timing was all wrong? I&#039;m surprised you&#039;ve still got the nerve to reply as your piss-poor article has been so thoroughly debunked. Your credibility rating is zero - except in your own mind clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re saying FC United is a good idea but the timing was all wrong? I&#8217;m surprised you&#8217;ve still got the nerve to reply as your piss-poor article has been so thoroughly debunked. Your credibility rating is zero &#8211; except in your own mind clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At no point did I say FC United were glory supporters (clearly if you&#039;re after glory you&#039;re not going to support a team from the very bottom that works it&#039;s way up) rather if FC had been formed at the peak of United&#039;s success, when prices were going up all the time and the money was going in to the pockets of McManus and Magnier&#039;s pockets, then I&#039;d have more time for it. It&#039;s a lot easier to become disillusioned with the goings on of the club when they finish 3rd, win nothing, and are apparently in decline, than it is on the back of the Treble winning season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At no point did I say FC United were glory supporters (clearly if you&#8217;re after glory you&#8217;re not going to support a team from the very bottom that works it&#8217;s way up) rather if FC had been formed at the peak of United&#8217;s success, when prices were going up all the time and the money was going in to the pockets of McManus and Magnier&#8217;s pockets, then I&#8217;d have more time for it. It&#8217;s a lot easier to become disillusioned with the goings on of the club when they finish 3rd, win nothing, and are apparently in decline, than it is on the back of the Treble winning season.</p>
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		<title>By: Clammyhands</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clammyhands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some of us at FC were actually supporting United back in 1989 - and we didn&#039;t stop supporting then because we had a poor season, and we didn&#039;t drift away in 2005 because we had a poor season either (nor in 1998 and 2002 when we also won precisely fuck all). Your frankly ludicrous premise that FC United supporters are glory seeking Johnny Come Latelies makes no sense to anyone with a modicum of itelligence.

Try again, but this time put a bit of effort into your attempts at red one- upmanship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some of us at FC were actually supporting United back in 1989 &#8211; and we didn&#8217;t stop supporting then because we had a poor season, and we didn&#8217;t drift away in 2005 because we had a poor season either (nor in 1998 and 2002 when we also won precisely fuck all). Your frankly ludicrous premise that FC United supporters are glory seeking Johnny Come Latelies makes no sense to anyone with a modicum of itelligence.</p>
<p>Try again, but this time put a bit of effort into your attempts at red one- upmanship.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott the Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott the Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George - I&#039;m not trying to cause any divide. The divide is there. There are two football clubs now, we are divided. It&#039;s not about attention seeking. I&#039;ve got my opinion, you&#039;ve got yours. I&#039;m not calling you a bunch of cunts for having a different opinion to mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George &#8211; I&#8217;m not trying to cause any divide. The divide is there. There are two football clubs now, we are divided. It&#8217;s not about attention seeking. I&#8217;ve got my opinion, you&#8217;ve got yours. I&#8217;m not calling you a bunch of cunts for having a different opinion to mine.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive never read such an amount of crap.  Well youve acheived your aim, your getting the attention you were obviousely seeking. Why are you trying to cause a divide between reds.  Some made their choice to walk away, some made there choice to stay. Manchester United FOOTBALL CLUB, could do without self styled top reds like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive never read such an amount of crap.  Well youve acheived your aim, your getting the attention you were obviousely seeking. Why are you trying to cause a divide between reds.  Some made their choice to walk away, some made there choice to stay. Manchester United FOOTBALL CLUB, could do without self styled top reds like you.</p>
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