Last week, Sir Alex Ferguson revealed that Nemanja Vidic, Tom Cleverley and Chris Smalling should be ready to return to the team after the International break.
Today, he has revealed that they could play at Anfield in our next league game. Whilst Smalling almost certainly wouldn’t start, given the cover we currently have in defence, it would be great to see Vidic and Cleverley brought back in to the team.
“The most important thing is the work they do before the internationals finish,” Ferguson said. “We really want to have Vidic and Cleverley doing some really strong work, and Smalling too, that would bring them on to a level that they could play at Anfield. You can’t go there with players who are semi-fit or just coming back from injury. You need players who are fully focused and up to speed in terms of fitness and sharpness.”





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Im worried about our defence going to Anfield, we look shocking at the back. The scousers have a good frontline with a stong bench, can we play Evans against Carroll, no way!!!. We seem to be struggling but getting away with it but for how long???, we need a bit of luck as we got a hiding there last season and they raise their game big-time against us!!!!
Will be a tough tough game on Liverpools cup final day. Depending how Anderson decides to play will be the key here and can’t see Fergie starting with Cleverley on such a high profile game.
Will love to see Vida pair up with Jones though.
@Tgan, In all seriousness, the main things that have me worried about the trip are who the referee is going to be and how much of a cunt Suarez chooses to make of himself. I feel Dalglish’s rant has really gotten to the refs and they will do everything in their power to make it right. With the game being at Anfield, we can be sure to have cynical tackles flying left and right from their lot and our players will get little to no protection at all. That is the only thing that has me worried – if we can get through the game without any new people on the treatment table, then I can see myself being satisfied.
As for the game itself, I am honestly not that worried to be honest. If the United of early form turn up and have a go at them, then we will give a great account of ourselves. Liverpool’s mid-field is, in a word, crap and Suarez is the only real player who can give us any trouble at all. I am not getting complacent by the way, they always raise their game for us, so it is going to be a tough, tough game. But I am pretty sure that as long as we play like we know we can, there is a lot to look forward to positively.
Im cetainly not crapping myself but we need a huge improvement at the back, De Gea might be better off on the bench for this one as Carroll will defo give him a rough ride!!!. They have Gerrard back now so he will play so that helps them out a lot, we need to keep scoring 3 or 4 to win but you can’t do that all the time. Bellamy is a good player so hopefully he stays on the bench, as for Anderson im not convinced by him at all and Fletch is still getting back to fitness!!!!
@Balaaj
I agree with you that the referee is most likely to have a big influence on the match and it will not be to help us. I said in the previous thread I expect an early red card for one key defender. I hope to God Im proven wrong. If its fair we will win it against a team that took 60 odd minutes to breakdown 10 men Everton.
I think Fergie will go for:
De Gea
Jones Rio Vidic Evra
Anderson Fletcher Cleverley
Nani Rooney Young
I want cleverley partnering anderson against liverpool they will teach them a lesson
I would add Welback or Chicharito to that line up and remove Clerverely as I dont think he will go straight into the starting line up miss him as we did.
Disagree with the guy saying smalling certainly wouldn’t start … If he’s fit he’s gotta be a shoe in to start as right back , absolutely no question about that
I’ll go out on a limb and say that it’s too risky to start all at Anfield. 1-2 of them yes, but we need to use a team that’s as match sharp as possible.
*all 3 of them at Anfield* I meant.
Don’t think smalling shld be left out…cleverly won’t be a bad idea if fit
i just cant see us winning this one! we lost our strong form and we are going loose this game!
Can’t really wait for the lad Cleverley to get into the thick of things. Have to admit starting at Anfailed might be asking too much. Maybe a sub appearance (ala Cittey at the CS) will do.
Is it just me or does this international seem so right on the timing? Weird, cause I’ve always hatted them.
Jello @Costas? Have a nice day mate…
@Costas, it was so refreshing reading your rant after the Norwich game…couldn’t believe my eyes, though i enjoyed the rant.@Costas, it was so refreshing reading your rant after the Norwich game…couldn’t believe my eyes, though i enjoyed the rant.
arent we puttin too much pressure on Clev,i mean he has only played a handful of games for the first team and all of a sudden he is our main man,,as much as i love him i think he shouldn’t be rushed and the likes of Fletcher and Ando should do their job n step up to the plate, but then again in SAF knows best..i cant wait to silence these dippers n bitters they been runnin their mouth lately n ts freakish annoyin..!!
Morning.
I said Cleverley would play at Anfield. He is too good not to. Great news.
Nah. De Gea has to start. His distribution will be vital. Fuck Carrol the gyppo cunt. Vida will have him in his pocket.
Eddo – I know what you mean but Cleverley aint some teenager wet behind the ears. He is 22 now and will be fine at Anfield.
I jst pray vida and clervery retured to full fitneess pls god.
Will Fergie go with 5 across the middle this time? Scholes and Carrick have really struggled at Anfield the last couple of seasons,. Will be interesting to see.
King Eric – there was no energy with scholes and carrick, now anderson and cleverly fully fit similar to hargreaves and anderson back in 2007 could get the better of our average rivals
Have to agree King Eric, our midfield has been pretty poor.. I think youl see park and Valencia play on the flanks with young in behind rooney giving help to ando and clev in midfield. We need plenty of legs in MF, and nani sometimes gets found out defensively
De Gea
Smalling Jones Vidic Evra
Cleverley Anderson
Valencia Park
Young
Rooney
Fletch and Clev in the middle it is then!
@19 going on 20 and beyond
Hi mate. Thanks. I am glad you enjoyed it, lol. Hopefully I won’t feel like having another one this season! have a good day as well.
@King Eric
“Fuck Carrol the gyppo cunt. Vida will have him in his pocket.”
Correct mate he will eat him alive, even more so as Jones will be alongside hime!
Team for me has to be:
DDG, Paddy, Vida, Rio, Jones, Young, Clev, Fletch, Nani, Roo, Pea
United’s midlfeld has always been a burning topic of contention on this forum.
I still rate Carrick but not as a first choice pick any more. I think our best combo is Cleverley and Ando as they dovetail each other nicely. More importantly they go forward and not sideways (which is consistent criticism of Carrick).
Yes, I know that Clev was expected to get a handful of games and eased in this season but ask him and he’ll say he wants to play every game. That’s the hunger we expect to see in all players (poor stupid Tevez). He’s on a fast learning curve but he’s doing well. And at United if you’re good enough then you’re old enough to put on that red shirt and give it your all.
But while we fret in the short term about our midfield, with Fergie he’s already trying to mesh the short term with the long term. In that regard I am a happy bunny because imagine a midfield with the likes of Pogba in one day soon. Other young tyros following him such as Morrison and Tunnicliffe.
Fergie knows how to breed and blend established players and new hungry talent coming through. That’s why I think players like Carrick are important to give something in specific games that is needed (e’g. slowing it down or running the clock down). Other times, we need energy and dynamism (Cleverley and Ando).
In Fergie We Trust as they say….
Cleverley has to make it, too many a time we have been dominated in the middle like against them last year, anderson and fletch would get dominated I feel, either play one uptop in Rooney or use Welbeck as he hustles and can drop into the middle, fletch might be of use if he continues to gain fitness and form,has he been??lol Cleverley for me is our best central player already.Cleverley has to make it, too many a time we have been dominated in the middle like against them last year, anderson and fletch would get dominated I feel, either play one uptop in Rooney or use Welbeck as he hustles and can drop into the middle, fletch might be of use if he continues to gain fitness and form,has he been??lol Cleverley for me is our best central player already.
Excited and crapping myself i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ equal measure ahead of the liverpool match. I know cleverley is no kid but i’m just a little worried about the pressure getting to him cos it seems he is being carried lyk a mini saviour. Not doubting his ability but considering how long he has been out for, it is safe 2 say that he may not be up to speed when he returns.
Excited and crapping myself i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̅ equal measure ahead of the liverpool match. I know cleverley is no kid but i’m just a little worried about the pressure getting to him cos it seems he is being carried like a mini saviour. Not doubting his ability but considering how long he has been out for, it is safe 2 say that he may not be up to speed when he returns.
Not posted i̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ ages i had to post it twice, lol
I have no idea why people are actually worried about Carroll of all people. The only person in that Liverpool team who can even think about troubling United is Suarez. The rest are all very good journeymen but nowhere near the quality they have been hyped up to be by Liverpool fans and media. Guardian, for once, seem to have put some thought into their 5 points from the Weekend piece by suggesting that Carroll looked like a bystander for most of the Everton game.
Some Liverpool fans even have the nerve to compare Carroll’s struggles to early United Berbatov. To even mention both of them in the same sentence is blasphemous in my opinion. Carroll is a Championship/Mid-table footballer at best and the fact that the dippers paid 35 million for his services still makes me grin from ear to ear.
I am not kidding anyone though. We may still lose the match against them, but that will have nothing to do with the quality of the teams. This is Liverpool’s cup tie. They know they are nowhere near the 19th title this season or in the foreseeable future. Their only hope of getting one over United is to beat us at Anfield. If they can do that, then they can brag about hammering us in their own backyard while we flaunt our new piece of silverware about Manchester. That is about the highest point of their season. They know that this is going to be their only source of happiness and will do everything to attain it.
As long as Nani remembers that he has to pass to United players to score and not Liverpool we’ll be just fine
Shall we just blame Evans Carrick and Berbatov right now?
And Anderson has to stop eating the pies – seriously I never knew OT pies were that good!
DDG has got to carry on eating those doughnuts though
Good for the bulk up
Just pay for it son next time and then eat on
It’s a little lonely in here
He eats what he wants he eay what he wants
His name is De Gea and he eats what he wants
He pays when he wants, he pays when he wants
That Boy David, he pays when he wants
TheLeftBank – Great post mate.
Giggs12 – Hello mate. Yeah Vida and Jones is one tough pairing!
fitb – Alright pal. Yeah no energy at all the last two years. Soemone else said that as much as we love Paul Scholes he really struggled there last season and the one before. One thing is for certain, I am pretty sure the back 4 won’t let Suraez walk through them this time. That was awful. You know its a bad day when Kuyt scores a fucking hat trick. Have a feeling we will do them this time and if we do it will be a great result. Infact in view of recent years I will take a draw there!!
Balaji – Hello mate. Yeah Suarez can hurt us and to a degree Kuyt can as he seems to turn it on against us. Gerrard doesnt concern me in the least. Infact I would rather him play than Lucas. Adam and Henderson are very slow.
God I love Phil Jones. Watched the highlights last night (all twenty seconds of them) annd after that superb block tackle second half he was bollocking his team mates. A born leader. Top drawer. Meanwhile Arsenal are struggling along with that useless donkey Mertersaker. Oh and is it me or is Gary Cahill THE most over rated centre back in England?
I hope the people rubbishing AC, aren’t made to look like fools in 2 weeks time. I remember the teletubby being castigated before we played Blackpool away, and he run us ragged for 45 minutes. Lets poke fun after the game, not before it! Lets not forget, Lucas has been part of the dippers midfield, that has run all over us on the 3 occasions at anfield. Make no mistake, this will be a battle from the start. They will try bully us, so we have to be up for it. If we’re not, we’ll lose again. We can’t lose 4 on the bounce at the dump! I could go through the onslaught from my dipper mates. I might have to kill someone.
I’m not sure if Cleverley will start this one. Might be just too early. The midfield will be key as usual. Fergie could go with 3 in the center. If we do, I’d go with Fletch, Ando and Carrick.
Whoever the ref is has to protect our players and stop Liverpool trying to maim them ala caragher on Nani. For some reason I suspect EPL refs have an anti United agenda which has stretched from last season I can clearly say.
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The main problem that we have is injury Evans can’t catch carroll it’s very important to see vidic cleverley and smalling we will play the information of
De gea
smalling vidic jones evra
nani anderson cleverley young
welbeck rooney
The main problem that we have is injury Evans can’t catch carroll it’s very important to see vidic cleverley and smalling we will play the information of
De gea
smalling vidic jones evra
nani anderson cleverley young
welbeck rooney
@Willie, Don’t worry mate! Whether he scores against us or not doesn’t matter, he is definitely not the next Messiah as some Liverpool fans claim him to be.
@King Eric, Yeah, that is what I love about Jones more than anything else, the way he took over leadership in the absence of Rio and Vida. It was the same characteristic that drove Sir Alex to buy him in the first place. As Sir Alex has said countless times, it was the sight of an 18 year old Jones castigating his Blackburn teammates in the 7-1 loss to us at OT that convinced the master. It is no surprise that it has only been magnified in the time he has been with us.
I wouldn’t put it far off Jones to become our next captain if/when Vida leaves. I am not really sure who will be with us at the time, but if Jones still is (hardly a doubt but I don’t want to write it on a rock), then he has as much quality as anyone else to take over the armband.
Expect no such behaviour from these FA referees , I will be surprised if the ref is not a talking point at the end of 90.
Grrrh, I’m so hating the dirty scousers already, will save some expletives for them… but will bide my time and take in Montenegro where Roo will score and then, grrrrrrh! Dirty scousers, I hate you!
From the horses mouth Sir Alex 3 to 4 yrs left
http://sports.ndtv.com/football/news/item/179237-ferguson-could-stay-at-manchester-united-till-2015
The gaffer is expecting li’l Tommy to play at Anfield. The rel question is: ARE THE SCOUSERS READY FOR HIM???
Balaji – Messiah or not, we don’t need to be leaving him alone in our box to score a free header. Like the Couch potato at Stoke. Jones was flat footed on that occasion. A much tighter marking job should be the order of the day. Suarez will cause havoc, with his constant diving. I wouldn’t be depending on the refs to help us either. We’ll have to do the job ourselves.
I really think this will be exactly what the team needs, a nice big game to get everyone fired up again. Rooney hates them anyway but Nani will want his revenge for last time and Vidic will want to come back and make sure everyone knows he’s the Captain.
It’s also our first opportunity to pour some more misery on King Kenny. One of my favourite moments last season was his first game back in charge when we knocked them out the cup on their own ground.
I also want Clevz back, not just for United but also my fantasy team.
For those that missed it, the latest episode of Agent of Fergie:
http://www.agentoffergie.blogspot.com
Im tired of all these diving cunts,it’s about time players started getting suspensions for theatrics.Review the game afterwards and hand down punsihments it would all stop.
The FA should suspend Suarez for severe overreaction in the attempt to get a player booked or sent off,it’s getting fucking stupid,players rolling over 5 or 6 times pretending to get poleaxed when barely getting touched,makes me sick.People who single out Nani have to be joking there’s alot worse than him,it has to be stamped out
So long as we don’t see a horrific Rodwell-esque sending off we’ll be fine. Cleverley to get his place back (as noone’s made it their own) partnering with Anderson to reignite the chemistry from the first few weeks. Welbeck to start, similar to Chicha last season, you just can’t sit a guy who’s running that hot.
A fitting game to start some proper reds. Afterall, if there’s one thing we know with absolute certainty, If you’re red, you hate Scousers.
I think SAF’S Lineup Will Be De Gea, Jones Rio, Vidic, Evra – Nani, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Young – Rooney. Carrick will sit deep allowing Cleverley and Anderson to support Rooney upfront
Willerednut!!!, I agree 100% that our defence is not good at all, look at the recent games, a shambles!!!. The scousers seem to have bounced back after the Spurs game and Carroll will cause this current defence trouble, look at the Norwich game, we were abysmal again at the back. It’s not just Carroll, It’s Suarez and Bellamy who is a top player as he showed against Rio, we don’t have the best recent record aginst them away. We need to be very well drilled or we will lose again at the dump, we need to pick the right team, over to you SAF!!!!!
If Rooney is up for his game, we’ll win. He’s not had the best games at dipperville. Defend from the front. The midfield will see Rooney busting a gut to close down their defenders. They will respond. Rush was one of the best at closing down. Sparky was the same.
Its being reported that Vidic will join the national team on thursday, seems Sir Alex wants some match practice for Him. Thats Good!Its being reported that Vidic will join the national team on thursday, seems Sir Alex wants some match practice for Him. Thats Good!
Think it’s a little harsh to bang on the defence when key players are out.Utd have had a ton of injuries early and are still getting results,very few teams would cope so think we can cut the lads some slack.
Seems Tom is getting alot of pressure put on him through no fault of his own,don’t think putting such high expectations on him so early is a good idea.
Just hope if he comes back and isn’t the messiah,he doesn’t start getting the Gibbo,Berba and Carrick treatment.
can’t wait can’t wait can’t wait
about time we shit on anfield. vamos you red devils!
Who is the ref for anfield? I’m hoping for the baldy guy. Who’s name escapes me.
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/7220175/Ancelotti-eyes-PL-return
Ancelotti on coming back to England. i’d die if he went to Arsenal. Thats exactly the sort of man they need. Threw in a few words on the GENIUS that is SAF
@king eric
Agree with u, Gary Cahill is overrated and metsacker is average. Either way Arsenal was going to be screwed. One way or the another destiny will eventually get you.
Oh and can we stop fucking fretting about the ref. We’re starting to sound like the stereotypes we’re portrayed to be by the media. We go there and fuck them over, thats what champions do and last i checked we’re the fucking champions.
Dandivine7 @ 14:32: “SAF’S Lineup Will Be De Gea, Jones Rio, Vidic, Evra – Nani, Cleverley, Carrick, Anderson, Young – Rooney. Carrick will sit deep allowing Cleverley and Anderson to support Rooney upfront.”
That sounds good to me – BUT I have nothing to do with the team selection. SAF will have his own ideas.
Last year I suggested that Scott set up some sort of “draft or team-selection rotisserie game” so that we can all go match-by-match with team selections and get points for each correct choice – I figured that the winner would be lucky to get 80% right.
You’re right slim. We always get the decisions at anfield!
Shush….
Anderson and fletcher/carrick in the middle has been the cause of our recent decline in performances. We need pace and energy along side ONE of them. Cleverly and Anderson were forming a good partnership and deserve the nod. With the tow of the three slow players in there we just get completely over run in the middle of the park – which is why the defence has looked so shoddy. So please Cleverley is returning.
Some of the doom and gloom I read here makes me laugh to be honest…. Just wonder what people may actually write if we were not top of the league and just winning our 19th game at home on the trot.
Like King Eric and a few others I always try avoiding coming on here on match days, regardless of what we do you still read boring comments that are full of negativity. Not sure what this team needs to do to make some people happy.
TC back? Cue Liverpool trying to crock Cleverley at the first opportunity…..
As some previous commenters have noted, this is putting too much pressure on one guy, a newbie to the team at that. His colleagues need to step up.
Cedars – Why so grumpy? Don’t think it was that bad this weekend.
You need the yin and yang sometimes. You and MG are the mos def the big Yins!
Only slightly off-topic – how can one be “off topic” when there’s no match for almost a fortnight ?
Anyhow, it would appear that last year was the high-water mark for Lancashire’s professional footie – UTD, Shitty, Everton, LiverPoo, Blackpool, Bolton, Blackburn, and Wigan; that’s eight out of twenty places in the top-level. NOW, Blackpool are gone and it looks pretty dodgy for Bolton, Blackburn, and Wigan. So, the Lancashire contingent could be down to four next year – and Everton’s finances look really, really, really shaky as they continue to sell off some of their better mid-career guys (Pienaar last year and Arteta this year) in order to make ends meet.
Willie
Ha? Yin and yang and you totally lost me! Hahaha, well you did make me laugh though….
Its amazing when i said a few senior members needed to step up i got a bit of stick, now we see why.
To much pressure on TC some say, he’s only a kid others say. Either way i guess we’ll see what the lad is truly made of and we have a basis for comparison. The boy is talented and his play style suits the direction United are taking this time round. If he plays anything like he did in the first few games then CM’s will have to stake a claim to play with him.
His age doesn’t bother me, we’re playing Jones at CB and RB and he’s 19, we got rooney when he was 18/19 as we did with Ronaldo and both were invaluable, why not Tom C? Pressure? Welcome to United
Cedars – I don’t post either during the game. I wait till after. It’s always the same on match day. We’re either the dogs bollox, or fucking shit! No change mate. You just have to sift through the rubbish and keep a smile on your face.
Its a long agonising wait though for this game!
Willie – Hello mate. Thats what i said. I would rather Stevie me play than Lucas. Lucas for all the stick he received aint that bad a player at all now.
Cyril – Hello mate. We knocked them out the cup at home not at Anfield!!
Tgan – Of course our defence isnt good at present. We are missing our Captain, Smalling, the twins and a half fit Rio. Its patched up at the minute but at least we have been getting the points in the league.
slim – Why would you die mate if Ancelotti went to Arsenal? Its teams like that we want to be rivalling. Not lanquishing 5th from bottom!!
I don’t buy this too much pressure on Tom line. He isnt 18 or summat. He is 22 and has been at United for 12 years or more. He did the business in league one, Championship and the prem and was doing it for United. He will thrive on it if you ask me. Seen a lot of his interviews and he is a proper pro. Not into going out and computer games and shit. Works his arse off and has stepped up to every challenge. Hell he even had Iniesta and Thiago in his pocket pre season!! He has worked tirelessly to bulk up and get tougher. Did anyone see him in the under 16′s? No exaggeration he was about 5 feet 1 and 6 stone. This kid as I repeatedly have said for three years or more IS the real deal.
Cleverley is being pressured tons of expectations from we reds and am not sure that’s a wise thing to do. However, if he is half the player I think he is, he’ll deal with it and come out tops!. As for the scousers, we’ll win,so long as Anderson performs half as well as he did @ the beginning of the season!.De Gea should keep eating the doughnuts, he needs them lol. Someone be kind and post a video link of Ravel Morrison pls!.
King Eric – Yeah, he’s improved of late. Can’t see the thug starting against us either. Whats our allocation for anfield? They cut it down, didn’t they?
King Eric
spot on mate, please educate others on here going on about pressure. its not even as if the lad reads ROM lol, or his name is chanted during games. fuck all, i don’t get where this supposed pressure is coming from. i think fans are just afraid of change that is inevitably coming to United
King Eric
err actually he’s into gadgets. can’t remember where i read he has a gigantic tele at his flat. and the lads play FIFA games as well. Doesn’t mean his head isn’t screwed on straight
King Eric
The man is too good for them mate, i’d relish the challenge but gutted they got such a distinguished manager. Sorry but don’t feel really sorry for Arsenal, loving every minute of their misery. You should see me trying to be sympathetic with gooners in pubs all the while trying so hard not burst out with laughter. This Sunday was particularly difficult. I couldn’t help my self
King Eric hi mate not saying Tom won’t deliver,my point is,it’s gone from will Tom make the team to midfield saviour.The expectations have gone through the roof after only a handfull of games,just think we should let the lad deveolp instead of expecting him to become top man overnight.
@King Eric – Oops! Thanks mate, jus re-read my post and realised I got it wrong! My brain is mush today. I have visions of that kid telling Kenny ‘you’ll be sacked in the morning’ and that’s about it.
At least we knocked them out the cup though, I didn’t make that bit up
Cleverly is the “possession man”…he only pass to his nearest mate, he rarely do Veron or Riquelme ambitious long super passes thing, he’s more like Xavi and Iniesta! possession,posession, possesion!!
I am really looking forward to getting Cleaverley and Vidic back. But make no mistake, they will have loads to do to regain all the fitness. As we have seen from Fletcher, fans need to be patient. It is really good that our early season form has set us up so well to give the entire squad confidence. The manager can be confident that he can tinker until the team really settles.
Who knows, this might be the first year in a few (EVER?) where the entire EPL roster (24? is it) get 10 games. That will make it interesting how they hand out the medals. THAT kind on interesting would be well worth seeing.
wayne
Ronaldo became a “saviour” after a handful of games. if the boy’s got it let him show it.
Sheesh whats going to happen when Tunni and Pogba are chomping at the bit for games. And you can bet in a years time they’re going to be drafted in. There are some who think 3-4 years and i chuckle. Not a chance. We’re going to see those boys playing a role next season. With SAF talking about giving another 3-4 years you think he’s not going to want to manage those boys he toiled so hard for first hand.
Change is inevitable and we saw a bit of it this year with the capture of Jones and Smalling last year and JOS and Wes moving on. Expect something similar at the end of this season as well.
WillieRedNut – yea I agree, some still tend to say great things about the united midfield which are inaccurate, yes cleverly and anderson have brought that bit of class to the CM, but the likes of carrick have had far to many off days than on days since the 2009/10 season. Fletcher still as not been up to scratch since the start of the 2010/11 season. So carrick and fletcher we could say are still relying on their reputations than what they have been doing the past few seasons.
For me its been the change of the guard in the 3 of the 4 departments, the GK defence and CF positions, new blood is now taking over from the old guard, apart from rooney and vidic, But for me we still are calling upon a CM that’s hardly seen change since 2007, and for a club this big that is far to long. If pogba and morrison do not break through next season, the boss has to sign at-least one CM.
slim – Do you know for a fact, that some players don’t read United blogs?
Ego’s in all that!
FletchTHEMAN
problem with fletcher was his weight loss and needing to bulk up again. Not everyone goes through what he’s going through. Its a shame but he needs the time to get back to his best,
Good evening ROM,
Hello King Eric,
how are u mate?
spot on!
i dont think Tom will crack under pressure,
the lad has a composed way of taking things,
looks dull to the onlookers but his resilience from inside is huge,
just like Scholesy,
his form isnt a blip, he was moderate with wigan as well, so he knows how to go about things..
having said that, i want him to be match fit and may be a game with reserves before i see his name on the sheet at Anfield..
Oh boy,
tom and danny have made us berserk, such young lads and such class and attitude..
great things in store for us devils..
easy there
Everybody does realize that we somehow in someway have managed to mess it up at anfield for the past few seasons right? I’m gonna eat humble pie till after the result.
A lot of players read blogs. I bet StevieMe loves spending an afternoon over at that RAWK site with his box of tissues at the ready.
Chicharito reads my blog. I have proof:
http://agentoffergie.blogspot.com/2011/09/message-from-chicharito.html
WillieRedNut
know for a fact? well you got me on that one i gotta admit. Then again Footballers want to play, if he hasn’t looked daunted playing at grounds up and down the country and playing for us, i’m sure he’ll be all right. A few nerves here and there no doubt but i think he’ll thrive on it. Its like Danny before he went on loan, he scored a goal , can’t remember against who and had this “i’m the man celebration” these lads are revved up are ready to go. Its like saying King Eric or you and other top Reds would be nervous playing for United. As if.
The boys live for this, i tell you
i think the last player we saw crack at OT was Luke Chadwick
Did anyone not that Giggs just started his 751s game for United. Sort of went unnoticed by me.
At anyrate, Some lad has put Giggy’s first interview up.
Shocking how he sounds absolutely the same. Close your eyes and listen. Funny that the commentator is saying we will wake up and this lad will be the next big thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DdsTQc2kps
Apologies if there was a discussion or if the video has been posted.
Cyril Sneer
lol, i’ll bet a couple read your work, funny is funny after all
If Cleverley is fit to play against the dippers then he will be ready mentally too. Those who doubt he will be able to cope with returning to the side for such a big game are doing him a disservice. Cleverley looks every inch a United player and that is what will see him handle the pressure and the growing expectations. Fergie’s willingness to get Tom back for the Liverpool game tells how important he now is to us. Hope he had the game of his life because if he does so will others around him.
Whats the worst that can happen eh ? He’ll have a bad game,big deal. he’ll get over it(i hope)
@slim hi mate Ronnie wasn’t a overnight success it took him a couple of seasons,he showed alot of talent but took him a while to become the finished article.
I’m mainly talking about the fans who overreact to everything,as Willie mentioned matchday threads Utd are either unbeatable or shit,the same fans build players up then like to cut them down,we all know Tom will hit a bad patch just hope all the fans who are singing his praises now will remember that.
If he proves to be a worldbeater great i’m just a little amazed about how much his importance has increased considering only had a few games.King Eric pointed out his experirence,no disrepect to King Eric don’t think you can compare championship football or Wigan to running Utds midfield,completely different level in everyway.
slim Cheers mate. Duly noted. Just saying that our early season form should give the boss and players confidence to get it right. But giddy about 19 points from 21 on offer. Surely a United record. Pesky neighbors are the only thing that is keeping us from enjoying it.
Hello all who are Red.
Rooney after he misses games always takes a couple games to get back up to speed, an off game with an assist and some good long passes and a missed chip! Some time with England he should be sharp for the Fools of Pool. He knows better then anyone he has not lit it up is his home town, COME ON WAYNE!!!
@Willie agree on almost all that you have said, I love Jones and he is awesome and always make jaw dropping plays, I saw the Crouch thing as well and his other mistakes we do not mention , with him at RB he has more cover as he learns.
TC is ready, my ques is he looks the same and takes his chance to be great.
Left bank, left a smile on my heart!
@Cedars, I post before the game and at the end of it. It take awhile for the Trolls to go off, then in about 3 hours after it settles back down. Posters like KE, Willie, MG and many others bring balance and order back to RoM. All be it Cunts like CROoney will have a go at Berba for instance and some response is inevitable, for I at time even feed the trolls.
@slim – I hope so, you never know. It wouldn’t hurt the buggers to give me a shout on that Twitterbooks
Maybe I should send De Gea a box of Agent of Fergie pastries. That’ll get his attention…
We need to at least loan a temporary world class midfield come january as a backup, in the past we got a super loan Henrik Larsson ….will Fergie do another one this season??? what if we loan Ronaldinho for 3-4 months???
The last thing Anderson needs is Ronaldinho showing him how to party.
Cyril Sneer
haha good attitude, you’ll gain traction soon enough, not on twitter my self so can’t help you there. that said i think i need to sign up, it can be useful sometimes and i’m beginning to feel like a dinosaur whenever i say i’m not on.
Hey there Zibbie the red,
Wayne world is the place to be in…
i bet my fortune (though i m a middle class), that in next 5 to 10 games he is gonna score that Cantona chip goal..
we have seen it couple times and against James,
he hit the the bar with that chip last month,
its coming, its coming
Mr. Sneer and Lil Pea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wayes World !!!!!!!!!!! 1878 top of the Day!
That chip only works in Scouseland…..
slim – I don’t think anyone is writing TC off mate. He’s a United player, no doubt. What some are saying, is the lad shouldn’t be expected to carry the team, when he returns. He’s impressed early doors. Looks a cultured footballer. Don’t think much fazes the lad. I’ve already commented, that he’s brought a freshness to the center mid. Personally, I’ve never been one for hyping players up. Let them grow into the team. That will come with plenty of game time. We’ve seen with Jones, that some fans are starting to get overly excited. I am too, but still wary of the fact, he’s a young lad.
@Fletch a young Ryan….. cool…..
Chips are for Dips. hehe Love you Wayne. If you reading Mr. Sneer you might see this. I draw a line at sex. outside of that I got your back Wayne. hehe
Wayne
Your point about Ronaldo needing a couple of seasons to settle in is true of course. I just think the difference with Tom is that he hasn’t had to adjust to a different culture or playing style like Ronaldo and had been brought up the United way for the last ten years or so. As for fans who build up our players one match only to destroy them the next well you will always get that eliment but the vast majority of United fans are very patient with young players and these are the true united supporters anyway.
stop gayishing folks
Our centre midfield is not the type that can defend well, but with Cleverly back they can play that high pressing game they were playing earlier. Liverpools defence is nothing amazing, our forwards can cause havoc, forget a defensive game, that is not working for us, we have 5 in the middle recently and drew. Also I think Carrick is better right now that Fletcher. There are no easy games in the EPL, the players coming back may as well step in here, they will only play if fit and will be raring to go. My first 11 for Anfield:
De Gea
Smalling, Rio, Vidic, Evra
Nani Ando Cleverly Young
Rooney, Welbeck
Bench: Lind, Giggs, Hernandez, Jones, Fabio, Valencia, Park
I love Jones, but right now Smalling is better than him in both CM and RB positions.
Just a thought, I would think all that is Red in Manchester would want to feed DDG some calories? Pints and donuts a good mix.
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12 of em’all
Young lads showing United quality 1st team players and one is a local lad and 3 have been there since they were 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And more in the pipe line.
Welbeck leaves a boy comes back a young Man.
Since he broke my heart 12 months ago he has been solid on the field since healthy in Jan, and has not made another mistake in disrespect of Club, Team and SAF as well as the fans. IMO awesome. Keep it up Wazza.
The latest signing have been great.
Lil Pea, Smalling get A’s and Bebe?
Young, Jones and DDG get A’s.
SAF say’s at least 3 years and maybe 4!!!!!!!!!
7 games 19 point!!!!!!!!
1st place in the PL!!!!
Top goal scorer in the PL!!!
100,000,000 in profits and climbing.
stop gayishing folks
Isn’t that in of it’s self a little “Gayishing” ???
My Team would be with a fully fit team:
De Gea
Smalling Rio Vidic Evra
Valencia Ando Clevs Park
Rooney Young
If Vida doesn’t make it, Obviously Jones Would slot in, If Clevs doesn’t make it Giggs Fills in.
Nani should not start, neither should Carrick or Fletch or the the Da Silva Twins.
We need a mixture of calm,passionate,skillful hard working players on the pitch.
It would be perfect for one of the young strikers coming on around 70th min to scare off Caragher and squirtle. Carrick coming on later would add protection and calmness to our team in a ball squeezing last 20 mins. While the Likes of Nani will get to unleash himself on a tiring Charlie Adam,Gerrard, Lucas, Caragit.
Suarez,Enrique & Kuyt are the dangermen…..we have to beat them
If you all want to vote for Player of the month. Hope over to ManUnited.com
Mine went to David De Gea who has been unbelievable given the complete trashing he had received in the press. Jones was a close second, but my vote goes to DeGea who has been under way more expectation and scrutiny.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Sep/player-of-the-month-rundown-for-september.aspx
Also lets not over-hype Liverpool, they have been pretty disjointed as a team this season and were lucky against Everton.
The key threat is Gerard and their forwards, Bellamy, Suarez, Carroll is okay but not of form. Their defence is slow though it has some experience. If our defence does not hold we have an issue otherwise our forwards on their day should mop up a hatful. Many of their players will als obe on international duty so lets see.
I think both teams will be playing high up the pitch and therefore possession and breaking down the opposition will be key, there will be gaps, our pace can punish them, we are stronger on the wings and we have better defensive backs if they are fit, but they can also punish any weakness in our defence and I think in a game like this Smalling is better than Jones as he just a better all round defender with more experience at this time though I love Jones. A good natural Makalele defensive mid would be a plus though.
wayne
True he wasn’t but you could tell from the off he was going to be special. You raise a fair point though about how fickle fans can be. Man enough to admit i used to rave about Carrick in his hey dey, but i’m probably one of his biggest critics today. Anyways here’s to hoping TC does the business at not just at anfield but throughout his time here
@NBI I loved your description of how Anderson and TC play together.
How Anderson shadows TC. Imo, it was insightful in my eyes.
As well with TC back and Welbeck, defense from the from the front, like Rooney said about playing like Barca in the sense. After turning the ball over in your own half, be desperate to get it back.
“Whilst Smalling almost certainly wouldn’t start, given the cover we currently have in defence”
Strange, considering he started every game until he was injured, including City, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea, but oh well, Scott knows better than Sir Alex.
Hey Fred, seems SAF has faith in Evans and Smalling. I’m I wrong or did he slot Smalling at rb before Jones?
I went to a fortune teller, sawyer of the future to come. She saw in her crystal ball this…..
_____________DDG____________
Rafa____Smalling___Evans____Fabio
Winger___Jones, TC, Pogba, Winger
_________Welbeck,Lil Pea, Rooney
In rotation of health, form and match ups.
For Jones greatness could be a offensive CB, a CM, FB, a behind the striker player in the future. The lad has offensive greatness running with the ball from range.
Zibbie, I must disagree. I see Jones only as a centreback and as much as you love Evans, I think he will end up as understudy to the Smalling-Jones partnership. Although, seeing as one or both of the Da Silvas are usually injured, I’m sure we’ll see a lot of the Smalling-Jones-Evans-Twin combination, and on occasion: Twin-Smalling-Jones-Evans.
The comments from Ancelotti in the article linked by Slim really made me proud of our boss. For those who didn’t click on Slim’s link, here they are again:
“The more time goes by, the more I fall in love with Ferguson,” he said. “He is unusual as a coach. It’s not his direct training – he delegates a lot and has an excellent team around him.
“He understands football like few others. Under his management, all players improve – more recently Young. He can take a little-known Korean and make him an important part of the Manchester United team.
“He’s not afraid to field young players. Cleverley is one to watch – he’s a 22-year-old midfielder and looks very strong. United play a European game – a little bit English, very modern. Finally, and a very important aspect for me, Ferguson is very good, very humble, as a person.”
Fred, that’s cool, where ever SAF deems is fine by me. Not so much blind of love of this lad(witch I do being half Irish myself and he is an academy product) but he has qualities to maybe a better JOS?
Fred
felt chuffed to bits reading that. the man is simply out of this world. Come on Cryogenic scientists get your thumbs out your asses and get cracking. we have an emergency
Can’t believe there is still people that doubt David De Gea! He’s a quality keeper and proved it with World Class saves! #InDeGeawetrust
@FRED I can not find slims link? Please help?
He doesn’t have the versatility of JOS, but he beats O’Shea on technical ability. I think you overrate him, but I think the majority of United fans underrate him.
Ancelotti was IMO awesome at Milan. I would hate to see him a pool.
Hernandez will be playing in Mexico against Brazil on the 11th 8 30 pm (mexico time), so he will be back only on the 13th the earliest. He cannot start against Liverpool.
The comments are here, Zibbie: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/965570/carlo-ancelotti-open-to-arsenal,-tottenham-and-liverpool-jobs?cc=5739
I’m trying to balance the scales. cool..
We all have favorites, my favorite is 3 points. 3 points is awesome. 3 points can be flashy or a ugly affair. Any way 3 point plays is fine by me.
GO 3 POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4 me,i wud lv 2 c lindagad,vidic,jones,evra,if small fuly fit i go 4 hm,oda wise fedinand pair vidic n jones play rit side.andason,park n gigs, nani,young, n roney.
Thanks Fred!
@Fred who is cooler?
Fred Flintstone or Berba?
I agree Zibbie. I’m hoping they bring the fat twat Rafa Benitez back when Dalglish inevitably resigns. Sounds more like Carlo has his eyes on the Spurs job, believing that Redknapp will succeed Capello as England manager. (I’m reading between the lines, of course.)
BTW, Fabio will be playing for Brazil in the same match, as well as Lucas….
He could displace the Gunners in North London, I would like that.
I have never played this great game. Closest thing hockey and field hockey.
Goals win games and defense wins trophies, maybe best served having him as the world best offensive defender.
Hmmm it’s a tough question, Zibbie. Both have their respective merits. I’m going to say Berba.
You’re right, Zibbie – dee-fence wins championships. That’s why our shaky-looking defence of late is a concern. It will be great to have Smalling and Vidic back, I think they’ll make a huge difference.
As people have pointed out the Gunners are proper rivals in the scenes that they are not Oil money. They will miss out on CL footy next year if they do not self correct fast. One fifth of the season is past.
my team for loserpool :
De Gea
Jones Rio Vida Pat
Fletch
anderson cleverly
Nani Young
Rooney
Nice, Fred tried to make you think. hehe
If Vida was out all season I would have more concern. I agree If it continues 19 of 21 point look hard to come close to. Rio needs this break, not picked by the gaffer. If TC plays in MF this will help the back 4.
Are the waters safe yet?
By the way where is Cedars?
Remember how the ref in the Basel game kept getting in our players’ way? I even heard someone say he played the defensive midfielder role to perfection for Basel. Well here’s a referee in Spain with a slide tackle that Ron “Chopper” Harris would have been proud of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve65wo5N0u0
I agree Zibbie – after all, attack is the best form of defence.
MG it seems safe and troll free.
slim – Hello pal. No worries mate. Is he into gadgets ? Didnt know that. I know he isnt into going out much though, likes the quiet life. A top lad.
Read a stat earlier that in his last 11 starts going back into last season Ando has 6 goals. Not bad really.
wayne – Hello mate. Thats just it though, Tom HAS developed. He has been at United since he was 10 or so and has grown up the United way. This kid will keep on delievering and I dont think the pressure will bother him at all.
Fred has a point about Smalling? He’s fucking brilliant in Fifa12! So much so, I’ve relegated Rio to the bench, in favour of Smalling/Vidic partnership. The kids got stamina!
sandeep – Hello my friend. I am good thanks, how are you?
Cedars is on international duty
Come on TC, then Andro have some fun and success with TC and keep developing to be more kick ass world class consistent, still just 23. 6 goals nice.
Let me Re-Phrase what you said MG !
Where is MachedarsDevil ?
wayne – Tom bossed the midfield against Barca, City and the opening few games. As I say this isnt knee jerk, I have followed Tom for years. Ask Watford fans what they think. They all say he will be an Ingerlund star and no mistake. They said without him they had fuck all creativity. The Championship is actually a tough league. I get what you are saying though. Him and Wellbeck are THE real deal.
Willie – we might see that in real life by the end of the season. Glad to know that Smalling is getting his due from EA Sports. Seems like he’s yesterday’s man for a lot of reds since Pip Jones burst onto the scene. Not me though.
I saw the Transformers movie last night, it misses Fox.
King Eric
I m good my friend,
hope all is well with you.
getting sick of imagining next 10 days without football,
good thing i m going out on trip for coupla days this weekend,
booze, smoke, sunshine and beaches
Red Neck – Spot on about Tom mate.
Clint – Alright pal. Is Fletcher not a hard working player ? He seems in some peoples minds to gone from our big game player to not good enough. When his full fitness returns he will be bossing games like he used to. Lets not forget Fletcher hasnt played at Anfield the last two times. We sorely missed his energy.
1878 enjoy the enjoyment!
I will be fishing next week in Northern Minnesota fall fishing is awesome i will have enough for fish through winter. My cousin has a great set up. A shore lunch is a wonderful thing.
Our friend Cedars has had a Troll overdose, and is in detox.
Fred – Hello mate. Oh not me pal. I love Smalling. He is so awkward with his arms sticking out and that but what a fucking player. Never gets beaten as he reads the game so well and has pace to burn. Oh and the lad can finish too!!
Zibbie,
you too enjoy mate,
never been to fishing all my life
enjoy your shore lunch
King Eric,
spot on mate,
Fletch will be back to his old self very soon, the big game Fletch will be back and i hope it starts with Anfield!!
his energy will be immense and that is what we require in big games, especially in derbies
As part of the last marketing agreement I signed. The 2 weeks between x-mass and the new year I will be in a golf resort in sw FL. The room opens to the Gulf of Mexico. White sand beaches. 4 killer restaurants 54 holes of golf and ocean fishing. All inclusive they pay for everything. With the guy’s and gal’s who earn the trip as well 25 hard drinking Dubuqers.
Thanks 1878
Good to have our boys back
- Clev and Ando in CM
- Young and Nani in the wings
- Rooney and Welbeck upfront (Sorry Chicho…you can come in at second half, and bang one in Solskjær style!)
- We have options in the back…FINALLY!
I will say, Smalling to pair Vida. Jones at right back….the boy can put in a cross for sure!….or….Monstrous Jones to pair Vida, with Smalling at right back…Fletcher has also played right back a few times, so he should be taken into account….but whatever you do, do not play Valencia there again!
I gotta say that Rio isn’t my first option any more
Smalling is Rio’s replacement. I’d be slightly controversial and say he looks a better defender than Rio was at his age. Rio for me, got better as he got older. He matured at Leeds, then took the ultimate step up in his development, when he joined United. Jones and Smalling will be our bedrocks in years to come. Very lucky we’ve got both at the club. Sneaky Fergie does it again!
King Eric -Im good, you?
Im not doubting Fletch’s ability just his Match sharpness recently after 55 mins when he has faded recently. With games he’ll gain form like you said, My choice of captain after Vida & Paddy is Fletch so I rate the lad Highly. If he plays against Pool, he will no doubt deal with the Tubby Adam but my worry is whether he’ll maintain the high standard over 90 mins or if he an burst in to life from the 1st minute which I doubt based on past performances.
Hopefully the game for Scotland against Spain (???) raises his level of fitness and match sharpness, I wouldn’t mind seeing him turn out vs pool but imo I have already named the best team we should field for pool.
I did say a mixture of passionate,calm,hard working etc is needed for us to win
Too much might lead to a crazy game. Just imagine the hell that would break loose if Jones, Vida,Ando,Fletch,Fabio,Rooney,Giggs, Evans all started. We;ll probably 8-men by half time
not much worried about liverpool actually.as i said in our previous away fixture that suarez should not be allowed too much space.if vida doesnt return then i think we need jones to take care of ac.jones would do a better job than evans as he has an amazing physique.the rest lay in the hands of saf.justice will be served.
I’m just going to throw out there and I don’t want to over sell him but I think phil jones is the best player in the world!
my team v liverpool, Lindegard,Jones Smalling Vidic Evra,Valencia,Fletcher,Cleverly,,Young,Rooney,Wellbeck. But we’ll see on the day.
Playing the scousers is always a big game regardless of form. I actually can’t wait though these are the games I live for, and I’m not worried as we have phil jones! I would let jones take penalties from now on as well after rooney’s miss against Chelsea! I actually want to see Jones made captain with Rio and vida behind jones in the pecking order. Phllip Jones football genius
Jones > Maradona
Valencia, Hernandez and Park will all be coming back from fixtures on the other side of the world won’t they? For that reason alone I don’t think any of them will start against the scallies.
If everyone is fit, there’s no doubt in my mind that the team will be:
De Gea
Smalling, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra
Nani, Cleverley, Anderson, Young
Welbeck, Rooney
Fabio will be coming back from Brazil duty too, I just remembered.
I hope we get a fair ref as well. My heart will sink if I see Dowd, Marriner, Clattenburg, Atkinson or Dean in charge of this match.
two words – jamie carragher, he’s a donkey slow as fuck. our starting eleven against their best eleven no contest.andy carroll would probably make a good championship center half.
Don’t know if anyone has posted this Betfair ad yet.
Evra trouncing Berbagod and Young…
http://youtu.be/1mq5MNhShko
Fred @ 20:26: “My heart will sink if I see Dowd, Marriner, Clattenburg, Atkinson”
We can’t get the bald Italian guy so as long as it’s NOT that FukWitMartinAtkinson then we can only hope that the man in charge will be even-handed and not short-sighted like last time when Nani was assaulted by Jamie Carragher – or last weekend when Atkinson ruined the Merseyside Derby by giving Rodwell a red card for nothing.
Howard Webb!!
These breaks are not fun.
Mr. Webb, has a daughter named Charlotte.
Turduckin, A chicken inside a duck, inside a turkey.
Why do we have international breaks again?
Every time Rooney misses games it takes him time, 2-3 games to get his timing back. For once a English break I think is good for Man Utd. Time to get healthy and for Rooney and Fletch to get sharp.
Cedars all on Kebabs? I love chicken skin Kebabs. Meat on a stick just not a Greek thing.
A Russian smoked chicken with Russian home made vodka is whats life is all about… United still come a close first though
310 money for FIFA so the can be Lords of all they survey.
Zibbie
The Greeks have it in their heads that good kebabs belong to them….. As I say, its in their heads
Can Fergie not referee the game?
Zibbie – ain’t no way i’m turd duckin, i’m facin’ this shit head on
Smoke that chicken. UUMMMMM.
I have a smoker. Here we smoke our Carp. It is a junk fish here, I guess in Europe it is a game fish. They fight hard.
I have smoked most meats. I will lightly smoke some of the Lake Trout I will bring home from my Northern Minnesota fishing trip. I smoke a lot of pork ribs, butts and more.
why are people dropping de gea for lindegaard? united spend 20mill on a player to drop him? i think liverpool game is the sort of game he’ll gain experience from and he could potentially shine but then again he may not, anfield is a make or break for any keeper so hoping he’ll come good there.
Fergie to ref a game? Justice finally in a football match?
You can’t beat a Margaretta number 9!!
No turd dunking! haha
#9
Smoke them Carps uummmm! What are Carps by the way?
@Samuel – united WE stand
Bang on, this is EXACTLY the sort of game De Gea should be playing. If he started against Stoke, then he’ll start against the dippers. He’s slowly becoming more comfortable, and more vocal. His shot stopping simply isn’t in doubt, the rest is experience – he’s handled the pressure and the learning curve so far, so bring it on.
Mambo number 5
Cedars I lived in Minneapolis from late 89 to late 91, there was a Lebanese family Restaurant I ate at 2x a month for a year after I found it. Wonderful memories.
Carp are fish. hehe Big cousins to Gold Fish or Koi fish in Japan.
BUENAS NOTICIAS lol
8765,309
Zibbie
Glad you had good memories with them Lebanese! Usually weirdos that leave you with terrible memories! Hahahaha
In all seriousness my friend, I hope that our roads will soon cross and the good memories will be enlightened
I really hate going to anfield. Such a ridiculous stadium. The scousers play on adrenaline their. We struggle. they don’t use skill, just heart. I hope we destroy them this time. It will give me great satisfaction.
Fred. I would go with your exact team but but jonesy alongside Vida. I know Rio is still class and has all the experience but the pace of suarez and bellamy could cause him problems. I know its an isolated incident but I still have fucking nightmares about that chip Rio attempted over bellends swede in the manc derby two years ago. Mind you we did have bumbling Ben in goal and he made a real fucking hash of the bitters third goal!
Willie. Hello pal. I don’t think you are being controversial at all in your summing up of rio and smalling. Imo without a doubt Smalling looks better than Rio did at twenty. Its funny to think some of the comments back in the day we signed Chris. Everyone saying “I watched him for Fulham and he looks shit“. Folk wanted Cahill or that italian Chilleni ot whatever the flavour of the month was back then! Smalling is fucking quality.
Cedars where the bloody hell have you been?
I’m all for Lebanese – I’m hungry the wife has been too busy doing her Doctor routine today – underfed and moody
In fact I’ll have Lebanese Kebabs and Sushi the way I’m in at the moment
Evening Cedars and Evening all
Have we signed Sneijder yet ?
MG
Always here my good friend! Always
On my FM game Madrid and Barca tried to tap up Hernandez
He told them he’s staying because I’ve made him into a world class player
Good omens then
Cedars I have something for you – wrote it primarily for you – you’ll find it here
Jones: Joining United Just Felt Right @ 14.29
Have a Red night, bbl.
De Gea will start at Anfield. The reason he didn’t play on Saturday is because Anders won’t be playing for his country but David has two games for Spain under twenty ones so Fergie said he wanted to give Anders game time.
Clint. Yeah good thanks mate. Just bored already of the interational break. Good post fella.
Do scotland play Spain? When is that game please?
Manchester United FC will
go in search of their first
victory in Group C at the
third attempt when they
visit FC Oţelul Galaţi on
matchday three.
• The last time United
failed to win either of their
first two games in a UEFA
Champions League group
phase was in 1998/99
when they ended up
lifting the trophy for the
first time under Sir Alex
Ferguson. Then as now,
they drew their opening
two fixtures, including a
3-3 home draw with FC
Barcelona – the same
scoreline United had
against FC Basel 1893 last
time out.they
visit FC Oţelul Galaţi on
matchday three.
• The last time United
failed to win either of their
first two games in a UEFA
Champions League group
phase was in 1998/99
when they ended up
lifting the trophy for the
first time under Sir Alex
Ferguson. Then as now,
they drew their opening
two fixtures, including a
3-3 home draw with FC
Barcelona – the same
scoreline United had
against FC Basel 1893 last
time out.
zzzzzzzzzzz
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/10/03/2695323/former-manchester-united-star-paul-scholes-im-not-bad-at
Paul I new he could tackle, just a bad ass.
In the states, we call take a number. If a guy cheep shots you, you make sure you get his number and get him latter. BAM UP SIDE THE HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!
MG i went back and read it a second time. DE.
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Good morning ROM and Zibbie..
Someone posted the ad, this is the behind the scenes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCQBlSKt4SY&feature=relmfu
Great to see our lads having fun =)
the scousers will be playing as if they are in a final cup match, and with gerrard back they will be more threatening. but my concerns is about the defence, in the past games the opposition got in too easily, and utd were lucky to get away without defeats, but this time, with that bitch suarez and carroll, it will be difficult to keep them out too long if we play too deep at the back, with downing and kuyt adding more threats on the wings. so i believe fergie needs to send out a very strong attacking team on that day (for me the best form of defence is to keep attacking and pressuring the opposition instead of staying back), including giggs, as i feel he is the one who brings to life the utd attack these days, and partner berbatov with rooney upfront, making it more like this (of course provided they are fit)
de gea
jones rio vidic evra
nani giggs young
cleverley
rooney berbatov
Something to get us through the International Brake.
Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5STxlb5zeMU&feature=related
@lordrt- an unusual line-up with giggs and berbatov starting considering the fact that we are not playin against a team that is going to park the bus. I believe we have to match their energy and for all his misgivings in the last couple of games, i would love to see anderson partnering cleverley and of course welbeck partnering rooney up front. Wouldn’t mind an early goal 4 us to settle some nerves, eh?
Sorry fella’s but if De Gea plays we lose….simple as that, he will get loads of barges in the box as the Scousers will target him, defo!!!!!. The defence is already wobbling without him in goal, let’s go for a solid team that can defend first and foremost or take the chance of being rinsed again at the dump!!!
saf should use vidic jone evra and smalling at our defence. in our midfield we need fletcher anderson and cleverl in dat game. Infront we need pearing of rooney and chic or welbeck so dat we can use it 2 teach them lesson. Up man u
Tgan
What you woffling. De Gea is our number one and will start and he WILL play well. His performances since Man City and West Brom give no reasons to be worried at all IMO.
De Gea may have made some mistakes early on but has since played really well. Bloody hell any goalkeeper would struggle playing behind our defence as it is at the moment. When the defence is back to full strength De Gea will be fine.
Running around in circles:
We’re not good enough
We’re going to lose
DDG needs more doughnut therapy
Get a grip
Morning United
Morning MG
Funny reading some of these panic posts eh? By the way I searched for the post you highlighted to me earlier but could not find it!
My preffered line up against the scousers: De-Gea phil-smalls-vida-evra cleverley-anderson valencia-young-nani rooney
The kind of things written by some, especially when it comes to players, is simply laughable. Rather than tell them how laughable it is, I just laugh.
Hahahahahaha~!
Hi Tgan. Were you laughing along? At yourself too?
YorYor
Well said
Cedars, laughter is the best medicine they say… so it’s good to have some medicine once in a while.
Man City must make lots of people feel better then!
I know some here questioned the sale of Wes Brown and in a way questioned the know how of the boss…. Fair play, I loved Wes just like I love every player who is a product of our youth system but having said that I have to trust the boss on such issues. Wes has had a decent game at Sunderland against Chelsea but other than that he has been average at best, in fact he was very poor against West Brom…
In Sir Alex we should trust, never were any truer words…
YorYor – Send me a pack please!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7223231,00.html?
Afternoon Cedars!
Defcon 1 Cedars without any cause of alarm whatsoever
It’s in the blog entry: Jones: Joining United Just Felt Right and it’s posted at 14.29
Hey Zibbie read it
With the problems in defence over the last couple of games and the lack of fight in midfield in our lack couple of visits to Anfailed, what about using a fully fit Vida/Rio CN pairing, Smalling at RB and Jones in midfield with either TC or Anderson playing the more attacking midfielder role?
jones had played there before for Blackburn, is aggressive enough to put Stevie ME, Adams etc under pressure, will want to get forward which he would be able to without leaving a gap in defence and will protect the central defence.
Just an idea.
So When Sir Alex said last season cough cough we needed a strong referee a fair referee the gaffer was made an example of find and benched
Rightly or wrongly Moyes said it quite clearly on Sunday and I assume nobody is interested?
Are they?
I think it’s time to look into it Scott…
MG
I looked for it my friend, would you please give me a link? As for Moyes, I agree 100% such a daft decision by a daft official. Its a shame really
Cedars
Just for you Cedars!
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/jones-joining-united-just-felt-right/
@14.29
StatesideAussie wherfore art thou? I wanted to share this with you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rxrRzE6CWs
Awesome…
Rom quiet much or what?
http://redcafe-fans.blogspot.com/2011/09/ken-van-der-sar-art-of-flying.html
awesome video….check it out guys.
its waay off toipc though..
Everyone’s going into withdrawal already… it’s gonna be a long 11 days to wait.
Echo! Echo!
While you wait for some conversation, why not check out the latest episode of Agent of Fergie?
Just click my username and you’re there!
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Cyril … cheers mate. Russians singing ‘Land Down Under’, whatever next? Very funny (as was your latest column, too!)
Yeah, I’m around, been reading some of the comments. Started a few posts of my own, then couldn’t be bothered to hit ‘Submit’. We have some very fickle fans. One minute we’re the best, we don’t need to buy anyone and everyone in the team’s brilliant; the next minute, we’re crap, players are cunts who should be sold and can’t wait for the transfer window to open. I guess it’s almost a fan’s duty to be fickle, but it all seems a little knee-jerk to me and I can’t really be bothered to take issue with it.
I do find it interesting that so many people are talking about how we’ve been unsettled in our formation. I think even SAF has mentioned it. And yet he is the manager, and this is the team, that for many years now has made an art-form out of squad rotation. How many times have we said that United doesn’t have a “first 11″, maybe only a “first 5″ (DGD, Rio, Vidic, Evra and Rooney) and yet here we are, a couple of off performances, and all of a sudden people are saying we’ve been unsettled and we need a stable first 11?
But what I think is true is that clearly, the make-up of the squad itself has undergone some transformation. Old heads have gone (including a very versatile “utility” player in JOS), and new heads have come in (mostly young heads, plus Young). Suddenly, we are putting together starting teams that feature several new faces in key roles, and in some cases, it hasn’t gelled properly. Well, big fucking surprise, that. Who-woulda-thunk? I mean, I am totally fucking shocked, not to mention devastated.
I think people just need to get a grip. By our standards, what we’re going through constitutes a major overhaul of the squad. We’ve had some great team performances. And we have seen some terrific individual performances. To me, those “highs” are amazing, because I never expected to see them so early on. Deep down, I was expecting us to struggle, partly because we often do in the pre-Christmas stretch, but mostly because this is obviously a major transition year for us.
As for the “lows”, I’ll be honest and say I was expecting worse. (And we may still see worse.) It’s not that I’m a pessimist. Realistically, if what we’ve seen over the last week is as bad as it gets, then in the circumstances, we ought to be celebrating. After all the grinding, “win ugly” performances we put in last year, how can anyone despair at what happened against Norwich? I mean, we fucking won, didn’t we? Yeah, I know some will say we were lucky. But to me, it’s pointless to talk about luck because in the long run, luck splits both ways. Yes, they might have scored, might even have won. But there’ll be other matches where the same will happen to us. Because there always are.
So far, we have exceeded my expectations in every way. Maybe I have low expectations, lol. But I just don’t get why so many people are so negative. It’s really got under my skin … so much so that I have even been considering booking a session with Dr Fluberblunton! If only I had 50 grand lol!
Hello
ello
llo
lo
o
Dr. Fluberbunton:
“I’m listening”
Damn typo
Rewrite
Dr. Fluberblunton:
“I’m listening”
Ah, that’s better. I mean, who wants to talk to Dr Fluberbunton when the esteemed Dr Fluberblunton is in the house! hahaha!
Anyway, off to walk the dog before she craps on the carpet. Again.
Stateside
Forever the charmer
@MG – Dr. Fluberblunton radio show? Interesting idea….
@StatesideAussie – Yeah, not really sure why everyone’s so tense at the moment, we’re still top of the league with players to come back and a big game on the horizon. I’m looking forward to it. Even if we’re not playing well at the moment the results are still good and performances will improve.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been any coverage of Fergie’s comments that he will stay on for another three or four years. I though that was great news, especially knowing that all the other teams are waiting for him to retire. Even if it’s just another three then it gives him time to see off three more Chelsea managers and King Kenny again
Not to mention three more leagues (and this season’s trophy too!)
Fee-fi-fo fum, sound the war-drums,
Piss all over anfield, fuck it then we’ll even cum,
Fuck ur every player in every position,
All over the field u fucking scouser scums!
I just love United-Liverpool games, the rivalry is just so intense. I definitely would like to see a clever ando pairing. Smallings a shoe in. Id like to somehow see Welbeck play, love seeing his name on the team sheet!!!!!!!!
MG
Just read it, great piece my good friend
Cyril … yeah, I am sure SAF wants to spend a few years with these youngsters, see them to at least one PL title and a CL for good measure. Fergie’s career deserves at least 3 CL titles. As for thr current malaise, people need to understand that a good team performance depends on more than just individual talent. It will take some time for these new combinations to bed down. Bound too. Especially since it’s clear that some of these new lads have very different styles to the guys we’re used to.
Over the last few years, there have been many occasions when watching SAF handle squad rotation was like watching a chess grand master move his pieces around on the board. Yet with the changes to the squad, even he will need time to figure out what works best and what doesn’t. We’ve changed out VDS, Scholes, Brown and JOS for DDG/AL, Cleverley, Jones and Young. Those are big changes. Frankly, I am surprised it is going so well.
MG … cheers mate!
Spot on Stateside. New pieces take time to fit in, as well Smalling and Lil Pea just one year on. And Welbecks emergence as well.
I think Smalling is a shoo in tbh, and its not like he’s had a long lay off either, so sharpness shouldn’t be a problem.
We’ve been physically battered 3 seasons in a row at Anfield. But that was with Scholesy in a 2 man midfield and Berba up front. They couldn’t handle the “get-in-their-face” approach from Liverpool and got harassed at every opportunity.
This time with Ando + one other (or maybe 2 others) in midfield we should be able to cope. And if we play 2 up top then Welbeck is a certainty, and he can cope with Liverpool’s physical approach.
@zino – yeah I agree I gave an unusual lineup, but I think Giggs, if started, will give United the momentum to push forward and look to score quickly, and Berbatov, with his assurance on the ball, will help keep possession upfront while Rooney, Nani and Young get into position to upset the scouse backline
But it will be a very tough match at anfield, thats for sure
Remember last season when we were giving it large about going to the dump, we got humped badly. I wish we would wind our necks in before looking like fools again, If anyone thinks Anderson is class OMG, he is the laziest player ever in our side and does no real tracking of the opposition, unlike Fletch. Our CM is still a weakness with no real leader still, anyone can see that!!!!
actually hope cleverley would be fit for this game, would hate to see carrick starting /: i know i shouldn’t be dissing our own players but i mean really, carrick has been having a miserable time whenever he’s playing there. Looking forward to an anderson cleverley midfield pairing i hope, maybe get park in there as well. get us some revenge on those scouse sh*t this year hopefully (:
scousers are shite
http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/2011/10/06/fergie-writes-the-united-fans-a-letter-ahead-of-the-anfield-visit/