Sir Alex Ferguson has responded to the referee’s ridiculous decision to send off Wayne Rooney yesterday, after our player through the ball back for a freekick to be retaken.
There is no denying he was angry when he threw the ball, but since when has that been an offence? The ball didn’t land exactly where the freekick was supposed to be retaken, so is being an inaccurate thrower of the ball over 20 yards now grounds to send a player off? It’s fucking ridiculous.
Our manager was also confused by the decision, seeing the flaws in the referee’s treatment of both teams.
“Did he throw the ball at the referee?” questioned Ferguson. “The ball was thrown direct to where the free-kick was being taken – did it hit the referee? No. He threw it because he wanted to get the game going. What can you say about that?”
Ferguson went on to look at other poor decisions made in the game, concluding his criticism of that fat bastard Dowd.
“There wasn’t a bad tackle in the game but John Pantsil was booked in the first half for nothing – it was just a tackle,” he added. “Tackling isn’t always perfect – I thought it was totally unfair. But there’s no point talking about the referee – we didn’t play well enough to win the game in the first half and that’s why we lost it.”
The game was over in the first half, that was clear to see given our inability to fight for a result until the second half, however it’s next week I’m more concerned about. We’ve got to play against one of the best sides in the league without our best defender, our most creative midfielder, and our in form striker. The latter could be avoided if Dowd wasn’t a attention seeking whore.
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I have said it a long time ago.Phil Dowd is incompetent.He puts some of the woeful referees we have in Greece to shame.And of course he made sure that it was a second yellow and that we can’t appeal.And god knows what he wrote in his match report about Rooney’s delay to leave the field.When you don’t have the balls to send off Ronaldo when the game is in the balance you are spineless.When you send off Rooney when it is settled out of spite you are a a clown,a jackass and a disgrace to English referees.
Oh,Berbatov at least two weeks out.Hope he makes it for Villa.
Hopefully it will only be a 1 match ban, dun see it being overturned.
btw, Benitez jus came out and said its a fact we keep breaking transfer records, in respond to Sir Alex’s fact of Liverpool spending more. Nice side step there!
Yeah.City just broke the transfer record.Does that mean they have spent more than Rafa in the past 5 years.The man is dilluded beyond cure.
Howard Webb is, without question, the worst referee in the Premiership. Consistently awful. Mike Riley is up there as well.
Halsey is one of the better refs IMO. He’s not perfect but at least he tries to let the game flow.
Hes no Rory Delap thats for sure but you should listen to yourselves. You were beaten fair and square by the better team. Rooneys aggressive foul-mouthed behaviour has gone unpunished far too often. Ronaldo is a joke when it comes to falling over and dissent. Also, just for your information, you’re only allowed to play with one goalie at a time! You get the rub of the green so often that you cant see how it is for all the other teams.
Matt tell me one comment where someone says that the ref screwed us out of a victory.Don’t try to put words in our mouth.Fulham won deservingly.They were better 11 vs 11.However,you want us to stand by and not talk when someone is trying to disrupt our season?Rooney’s dismissal had no affect yesterday but it could have at the Fulham game.And why?Because Dowd took it upon him to put on a show for the Fulham crowd.Rooney should have been sent off in the past,yes.Yesterday?No.Two wrongs don’t make a right.Why didn’t he send off Ronaldo yesterday?Because the gane was still open and he was afraid.
@marq & costas
You’ve both noticed how the waiter has lost the argument regarding net transfer spend.
So, he tries another line of attack. Transfer records= titles !! Genius
Yet another diversionary tactic to conceal the mis-management of his clubs finances.
Obviously, all ready after another extension to his new £5 million a year deal.
I never said anything about the ref cheating you yesterday. So you are the one putting words in other peoples mouths. What you say just sounds paranoid. Noone is trying to disrupt your season except maybe other football teams and they are perfectly entitled to do so! Dowd, as far as the rest of the world could see, was just doing his job. He did his job fairly well, apart from not sending Ronaldo off also. Referees treat united too gently and thats why you didnt have 3 sent off yesterday. So the only people who should be upset with Dowd are non-Man U fans.
@Matt
“Ronaldo is a joke when it comes to falling over and dissent.”
If you bother to regularly read this blog then you will find that most of us agree.
“Also, just for your information, you’re only allowed to play with one goalie at a time! ”
Superb, relevant, insightful comment into the game of football.
Yes Matt you are right.He should have also sent off Rio,VDS,Berbatov,Fletcher and Park.What the hell?Send off Carrick from the bench while you are at it.When you say this to us
“you should listen to yourselves. You were beaten fair and square by the better team.”,i take it that you mean that we don’t admit Fulham were the better side.Far from that.I want teams to try to disrupt our season.I don’t want incompetent referees to do the same thing.Why don’t you tell us what team you support so that we can see how hard done you have been by officials.Or maybe you already told us your team:Non-Man U.
Correction.When i talked about disrutption,i meant the Aston Villa game.
rc 7 it’s like this.We spent 18mil(i don’t remember the exact sum) on Carrick,he spent the same amount getting 3 Palettas.Does that mean that we have bought our titles or that we buy more wisely?If you look at his interview it’s full of crap.He says flat out that United will still be dangerous after SAF has gone because of our financial status.So Fergie bought his successful reign at United.No one has ever disrespected SAF like that.
So much for Villa helping out…
This is getting worrisome – liverpool are taking villa apart, and I have a bad feeling we are likely to drop points against villa…just have a really really bad feeling…Right now I actually give us a bigger shot at winning the CL than the prem…Maybe I’m just having a ‘glass half empty’ day…
If we didn’t have injuries and tired players, I would be hoping that his ban was extended to teach HIM a lesson
If this was any other player, we would be on their case but because its Rooney its alright. Well no its fucking not. He acted like an absolute prat and he should pay the price. I was there. He was screaming in the referees face which i didn’t mind, but then he kept refusing to go and rio and giggs had to literally give him a nudge as if to say go. He then turned around and screamed some more and in the end Giggs was pointing in his face, I can only presume to tell him to get a fucking grip
Compare his reaction to Fat Franks against the dippers and Fat Frank got sent off for a much less thing.
Costas, exactly, you’ve hit the nail on the head.
In 2006/07 we bought Carrick (one player) for £18.5m. This was financed from the £14.5m we received from transfer sales. We “bought” the title for £4m.
Acording to FSW’s logic then £4m=Pl title. “Bought”, thats a fact, allegedly.
If only life was that simple.
I am prepared for months, maybe years, of “excuses” from the “Chosen One”
Pathetic.
Another long ball goal !!
So basically,if he wins the title this year,he will be the first man in Pr.League history to stop our economic dynasty?Then what did Wenger do in 02 and 04?Or Daglish in 95?By the way,why has he never said these things about Chelski?
Oh yes!Reina is first on their assist list.
Didsbury_King – I think you’ve got it absolutely right. The sending off MIGHT have been harsh, but the way wayne rooney behaves on the pitch when things are going against the team means he’s almost always a dead cert for getting sent off. And Sir Alex for me, this time, has got it absolutely wrong. I think he should have publicly ripped rooney to shreds there. Heart and passion is all good, but not when it descends to petulance. I think the number of unnecessary booking and red cards we seem to be accumulating is ridiculous, bad refereeing or not – and some of these lads need to be publicly humiliated by being fined…
and fuck this – I think in 2-3 weeks time we will be level or ahead by a point with liverpool, because I know we will drop points against villa…and from there its going to be about who has the bottle to push on and win it…
Correct me if i have let any of them out,but this season we have had 7 red cards.7!And apart from the 2 Vidic red cards against Pool,the rest are plain stupid.Guys is there a chance we are missing Quieroz’z calm influence in the locker room?It’s like Fergie can’t contain them anymore.
And going by today,forget about the goal difference.So we can afford to lose up to one game.
lads if we collapse now, the will be a bigger fuckup then newcastle ever achieved under keegan
precisely costas – I think after the Villa game, its pretty much a 8 game shootout…’Pool will have the momentum, but its upto SAF to find something in that squad which will take us over the line first. And that is why its not the last few results, but the temperament’s in the last few games bothers me. Rooney and Ronaldo are simply put our Gerrard and Torres, and for now I think the latter two seem to have more bottle…
Just saw the sending off in it’s entirety.Two things:1)While he is behaving like a complete brat,he is not refusing to leave the pitch.2)Tim Cahill punches corner flags all the time.I can’t see where this 3 match ban can come from.
And you would think Mahesh that Rooney and Ronaldo would have had the experience after winning two titles.
Hello all! Fuck me what a week. What is going on?
This is the ultimate sycophant United blog. All the rubbish to talk about from yesterday’s match and we have two posts criticizing Phil Dowd? Phil Dowd had almost no impact on yesterday’s scoreline and may have no impact on our season going forward. Why not talk about something useful and relevant to our future? But I suppose it is easier to whine about Rooney’s red card than be introspective. The past week was a full-fledged meltdown in perfect timing with Liverpool reaching their zenith. If that isn’t a talking point, this blog has lost the plot.
I agree Costas he was just determined to have his say before he went.
I think in the US they have a thing called March Madness.They have nothing compared to the madness we are all enduring in the last 8 days.Villa were never going to get anything.And when i saw Agbonlahor on the bench,that confirmed my fears.
Patrick: good polnt. Why do you think we are making a right town halls of it?
I agree with Patrick in the sense that we should have a topic about what is going on with our team.But if you look at the posts Patrick,most of us end up talking about the meltdown anyway.
I thought Ferdinand was largely to blame yesterday. His defending for the second goal was shocking. Gera could have made a cup of tea the amount of time he has on the ball yesterday and it cost us the game. Before Vidic he would drop you at least 9-12 points a season.
If Park had scored we would have been right back in it and possibly go on to win the game.
Yep, you would think that wouldn’t you Costas? I would add Vidic to the list – he does the stupidest of things in the really high pressure games…I really hope SAF can get this sorted out…
Rick: I agree he has looked shaky ever since he came back from his back injury. For me when you should always start with somebody in front of the back four to give protection. To put Scholsie and Giggs in central midfield was really poor thinking. Anybody for Vidic /Evans partnership? or do we give Ferdinand time to get over this bad patch?
I agree mahesh about rooney
and we all know fergie defends his players to the bone etc. but I sense all is not well between Fergie and Rooney. The press are reporting that Rooney and SAF have had a bit of a falling out. I would usually dismiss this but why else would SAF leave Rooney out yesterday and play players out of position as a result?
I suspect Rooney has done something to annoy Fergie and we will find out what it is one day.
At the Villa game you have to go with Rio and Evans.With Porto it will be interesting.Considering that it will be only 48 hours later,SAF might do a lot of chopping and changing.Hopefully,Neville and Rafael will be back by then too.4-0 Liverpool.I still see O’Neil “remembering” that they are after the fourth spot against us.
Patrick – I think you’re right about having a little perspective, but I think most of the comments here at least recognize the fact that there is much more that is wrong with the team right now than phil dowd’s refereeing.
And honestly, people need to get off the wayne rooney bandwagon. He needs to get the stick when he deserves it…
But he didn’t start Carlos Tevez either didsbury.If he wanted to play with 2 strikers,he would have at least put Carlos.I think that was his plan all week.Scholes and Giggs in central midfield with Fletcher on the right.
Rooney is out of control at the moment, he is over passionate and doing us no favours with it.
Friedel sent off and penalty to the dippers!
And the scariest thing is that out of all our attacking players,the one player that has never let us down is the one player who will leave us:Carlos.Ronaldo and Rooney should be ashamed of themselves after seeing a player who is not contracted at the moment play his heart out for us.
didsbury -have to agree with costas here – if it was a falling out that led to rooney being benched, tevez could have partnered berba…I think SAF caught the FSW virus…he betrayed complacency, which he of all people should know can bite us in the backside. This weekend is, in short, most of all SAF’s fault. If there is any positive in this, it is that BOTH players and manager will have been shocked out of any complacency. From now on, I can’t see SAF not putting out the best 11 possible in every single game (apart form the Villa and Porto games of course)
Rob i think we can safely say that our goal difference has went out of the window.
Patrick
You are perfectly entitled to give your views on our meltdown and Liverpool’s zenith. Can you expand further?
Rooney’s sending off yesterday (whether you agree with it or not) had no impact on the result but could have an impact on the rest of the season.
Surely that is a valid talking point.
Patrick made his point and left rc7.And i don’t know how much of a United fan he was anyway.
Ow,a silver lining.We won’t be up against Fridel.He has given us a lot of problems in recent seasons.We will take whatever we can this weekend!
well, if I may dare to suggest a positive from today – no brad friedel in goal for villa when we play them. He seems to always save his miracle games for us…apart from that if we have drop points might as well get humiliated. Its easier to take than the close ones, and hopefully should shame a few players into performing…
bin dippers 5 villa 0 so far….im gonna puke!!
Matt said that Ronaldo does too much whingeing and diving = someone else said most people on this blog agree with that. Well, I don’t; Ronaldo gets kicked and kicked and kicked yet he rarely is “protected” even when Pogatetz and Steven Taylor damned-near strangle him and go unpunished. The vilification of Ronaldo is absurd. Of course, he does pout about the unfairness of it all and has on occasion kicked back – then he is vilified again. But, a level playing-field ? I think not.
About Rooney – a 2-match ban: to be served against Slovakia and that other Ingerland waste-of-time on Saturday. He really does need to soak his head in an ice-bucket. His self-control is damaging to the team. Period !
Berbatov is beginning to look like a really bad buy – he seems to be a one-speed player (slow/methodical) and rarely seems to have the necessary energy for defending from the front. The team has played lethargically when he has been in the starting eleven – a big difference from the FACup game at Fulham when the Cottagers were dismembered by an attacking trident.
My “fear” in this regard is that the pursuit and signing of Berbatov is a repeat of the fiasco with J-S Veron, another guy who looked good but demanded the team play at HIS speed. I’d just hate to see Tevez go and Berbatov stay.
I’m expecting another bin dippers convention over the next few days.
I see Villa have just laid down for the dippers. What a fuckin joke of a display but you can guarantee they will be up for the game at Old Trafford in 2 weeks. I am gonna be sick, Saint Stevie with a hat trick, just imagine the media love in. I shall not be reading any papers or forums for the next fortnight. A man sent off, 2 penalties and they say United are lucky. This result will really make the dippers think they can do it now and the momentum is certainly with them. As long as we win all our games from here on in we can’t be caught. No more slip ups, no more bad team selections, no more complacency and no more schoolboy errors. I can never see that cunt Stevie Me lifting the trophy come May, I will slash my wrists before I see that happen.
MOTD 2 tonight will be as good as last night enjoy
“I can never see that cunt Stevie Me lifting the trophy come May, I will slash my wrists before I see that happen.”…… Ive got a rust razor you can use
I apologize for posting then leaving. It’s March, so college basketball is occupying my time here in the States. As for my thoughts about why United have been so thoroughly wretched this week, I don’t believe I can pinpoint it, but I have a few general ideas that probably all contribute.
1) General fatigue. Being alive in all competitions has been a grueling test for our lads. We have played more matches than any club in the world and that must have some effect on their spirit, if not their legs.
2) Ronaldo’s pessimism is a cancer. Your best player needs to be a leader and he is anything but. When things aren’t going well the panic clearly resides in his play, in his face and in his actions. Watching him panic the second we fall behind in a match surely permeates the entire club. His entire demeanor becomes negative, and his remonstrations towards his teammates when they make mistakes is intolerable. He is a difficult person to like, I fear, and this becomes apparent when we are losing.
3) Rooney would benefit greatly from playing in the same position with any regularity. SAF’s tendency to move him all around the pitch–as he is a versatile player–has caused him to lose some of the idenity that made him such a star when he was younger.
4) Berbatov. Great player. Love him. Don’t know if he fits. If you play him and Ronaldo at the same time there is absolutely no pressure from the front line, allowing teams to have a silly amount of time on the ball.
5) Our buildup play has been monotonous. The presence of Park has made our buildup play two dimensional: either we play directly to our forwards or we play it down the right with Ronaldo–who has been attracting triple-teams of late. This is because our midfield pairings–yesterday aside, as Scholes lasted 15 minutes–haven’t worked well. Carrick and Anderson were entirely outclassed against Liverpool, and we were simply shorthanded yesterday. Since we have been playing from behind, we have lacked the patience to get overlapping runs and have our CM’s in attacking positions.
6) Finally, our defense just needs to post a clean sheet to regain its confidence. You could tell that the Liverpool result really shook the confidence of the lads. They don’t appear to trust their own instincts, hesitating for just that split second before playing the ball. I don’t worry about them, however, as their previous streak of clean sheets speaks for itself. They will only be stronger when we have a real right FB–O’Shea is 4th choice. Also, Evra could use some competition. He’s seemed a bit careless of late.
Obviously, football is complex and I don’t know all the answers. Matter of fact, I could be wrong about everything I mentioned. Earlier in the season Rio said that Darren Fletcher had been United’s best player this season, thus proving that everything I thought I knew about football was wrong. But my point was that this is what we should be discussing, not Phil Dowd. I would have red carded Rooney myself.
Well it doesnt matter now, pool have won, their goal difference has gone up, and theyre only a point away, forget the game in hand.
The margin for error is smaller than ever now, we need to win all our next matches, thats it
No ifs, no buts, we need to win our remaining matches. If we let this title slip out of our hands, it is going to be a very very very long summer for all of us.
Great post Patrick.Sorry for doubting about you.As you can see we have our own MArch Madness here.Rest assured that all of these topics have been discussed in here.If you had it as a general topic,it would bring in 1000 posts.On to your topics:
1)I have talked about it myself.Never before have we played 51 games before April.As much as people slam O’Shea they should look at how much football he has played.
2)It’s not bad to be pessimistic.Torres couldn’t look when Ronaldo took his penalty.You are right about his demeanor.He doesn’t want to be here,full stop.If we could sell him to raise money for Tevez,right now i would say go for it.Nani hasn’t gotten as many chances to play consecutive games and prove his worth.
3)Agreed.Rooney is a striker,end of story.
4)Also right but he can win you games.The team learned playing around him in January-February.He has been bad ever since Milan.
5)I agree about the buildup.Park and Fletcher are great defensivively but they can’t raise the tempo to a pace where teams can’t follow us.
6)This defensive unit has played too many games recently.Vida has got his break but Rio needs one as well.The right backs are also returning and maybe Fabio should play a game instead of Evra.
Anyway,lets hope SAF gets it right.Tactically he most certainly can.I don’t know about the attitude of the players though.They seem like they are lacking someone relaxing them in the locker room.
It may be just me and Patrick but Rooney does himself absolutely no favors. I don’t think I would have red carded him but his anger cost him so much. He has lost the plot far to often and it affects more than himself but also our chances for the league. His actions put the result against Villa in doubt. He needs to reflect on this and realize his over reaction and allowing his frustration to boil over is hurting his team. I realize his passion for the game is what makes him such a fantastic player but one can have passion and learn to cope with frustration. It has been a very frustrating two weeks for Rooney after saying he hates Liverpool, watching them walk over us, lose to Fulham, and then watch Liverpool crush Villa. We need to respond to the pressure positively and the bench players need to step up. I have full confidence in Fergie and expect him to help us this is a bad patch that good play will get us out of. We all got complacent, even after the crushing Liverpool defeat we all felt far too optimistic about our position in the league. We have gotten a strong dose of reality, its time to rally the troops and rally the fans against Villa.
I agree with nearly everything Peter said but with ten men we looked good going forward. We just couldn’t find the back of the net. Park might need to take a seat in favor of Giggs back out wide and bring Anderson in to side in the middle next to Carrick. We need a bit more of a defensive attitude and clever play in the middle (Anderson brings both) and better out wide play which is achieved with Giggs. Fergie will find the right formula and will know what to do by who is performing in practice and get those players out on the pitch. If we can get a good result against Villa and play well against Porto we will be in a good position going into the Semi’s of the CL and holding on to our position.
King Eric -
u summed it all up perfectly……100% agree with u
Bloody hell those dippers have robbed another 3 points by their long ball game and questionable tactics of getting players sent off. Shit ref as well. That Gerrard is a spawny bastard. He only scores from free kicks and pens. Oh, and AV rolled over. No worries though, as Sir Bobby the spiv said, this is surely another positive for MU. Kick up the pants and all that. Dippers will blow up and MU will win all of their remaining games. Or maybe not…….
Franco you might want to wash your mouth before you ever mention Sir Bobby again.
Costas, I gave him a standing ovation at the Sports Personality awards in Liverpool this year. Only coz he got me a good seat like!
I don’t care why,just leave him out of it.Congrats on your win and on your good form but if you are going to come here at least be respectful.
Costas, have you read what his brother said about him in his book? Not very respectful I’d say. And nothing to do with spivving either. Can I be disrespectful to old whisky nose by the way? Coz I’ve heard a nice rumour about why he’s gone underground recently.
I dont understand why other teams fans come to a man utd blog to talk shit about our team? since they’re mostly dippers, it just shows that they spend more time talking and caring about united than their own team.
I would never go on a liverpool blog and start bigging up united, i dont need to, theres 10 premiership trophies that do the talking. the dippers clearly have to make up the empty spaces for the prem trophies by claiming they’re the bes tteam in the world and stevie me is almighty God.
@Costas do you live on here mate?
Might be worth some of you using the RoM forum…
Where’s Denten Davey and Spencer lately? Interested to hear what they have to say. Are they on Twitter?
I’m a week late with this but think it is still very relevant. its taken from a weekly column printed in an irish newspaper.
“So, just “a bad day at the office,” as Alex dubbed it, or something more sinister? You may recall I wrote last week of my (now-justified) fears about the Inter/Liverpool double-header and it shouldn’t be forgotten that our performance against a very average Italian outfit was as alarming as the result was welcome. In short, both Inter and the Scousers created half a dozen golden chances against the supposed Greatest Defence Ever Seen on our ‘impregnable’ home turf, the difference being that Liverpool took most of theirs. Ferdinand has looked shaky; Evra has had a patchy month since he was ‘blackspotted’ for a possible summer sale; O’Shea has had all his journeyman limitations exposed once more; and Vidic was simply unlucky to have had a once-in-a-season stinker when the whole world happened to be watching. In other words, the issue this week with our defence was surely about form, not class.
Yet all that said, one underlying theme of this column for the past 15 months or so remains worth replaying. I agree with Fergie when he claims this is the best squad we have ever seen, the mere assemblage and maintenance of which does him and his staff so much credit. The question remains, as one of my most esteemed colleagues Mr T Ropical at Red Issue put it: given that this is true, why then are we not much MORE dominant?
This may seem perverse, looking at the trophy cabinet, but it reflects the hardcore’s Princess-and-the-Pea dissatisfaction with the management somehow leading that stellar combination to several big-match disappointments, way too many un-Unitedesque 1-0 scrapes, and having to resort to grisly clinging-on throughout the European Cup and League latter stages last season.
“Less than the sum of its parts?” is the question that recurs: I hope Saturday wasn’t part of a definitive affirmative answer.”
I see Bob’s back with his wit and wisdom! Before you have a involuntary emmision in your underpant go look at the table at at Christmas and the table now. 7 points up and now 1 behind and we have a game in hand. Liverpool fc the kick and rush kings
Who cares what Jack wrote in his book?That’s between the two of them.I am not going to one of your blogs talking trash about Shankley am i?And no,don’t badmouth red-nose(nice nickname by the way).Stick to your team.Do you like their football?Is Gerrard going to carry his good form to the England games?Are you offended by what’s been written here?It’s a United blog.Admitting that you were better that us last week is all you can hope for.
DanS – “Where’s Denten Davey and Spencer lately? Interested to hear what they have to say. Are they on Twitter?”
Denton was on quite a few posts last week and Spencer popped up once or twice. There is quite a few that I ain’t seen for a bit like NorthStand, Failsworth, TomF etc. What is twitter mate?
DanS you are close mate!I have a lot of free time these days so i have this website always open.Haven’t gone to the forums yet.Maybe i should give it a try.
Keep this to yourself Costas but I hear Fergy’s been working round the clock with the sports technology dept. That’s why he keeping a low profile. Expect a big revelation at his next press conf. Oh, and am not in the least offended. Loving it just now in fact. Who have Greece got this week?
In my opinion, other than his petulance I though Ronaldo looked ok second half yesterday and was the only one who was prepared to run at players and try and take the game to them. Bit unneccesary scapegoating him today but then I suppose its easy.
Will Rooney and Scholes miss just league games or does it include Champions league? I don’t think it does, does it?
You should love it.That’s 13 goals in 3 games now?Just stick to the good stuff and don’t offend people that aren’t here.About the department,quite frankly i would love it if both managers dropped this charade that has been going on for 2 months.Roy Keane was right once when he dismissed this mind games saga.Greece?We have a double header with Israel.We were comfortable up until the Swiss beat us at home.Is Benayoun fit for Israel?I think he hasn’t featured for you lately.
Just league King Eric.And why would you say games?After the 1st of March a straight red is a one game suspension.Rooney in my view should not get more than one either.70% of the players getting a red card complain.
Cheers Costas, I thought that was the case so why are people saying two or three games?
I haven’t heard about Scholes anything.It’s one game for him.Vida got two games because he got sent off again this season in the Premiership.As far as Rooney goes,some tabloids are saying that he might face a 3 game ban because of his reaction afterwards.As i said above i find it weird.Ronaldo took longer to get off the pitch when he got sent off at City.As far as the corner flag goes,hey Cahill punches them every week doesn’t he?Do you ever remember a worst disciplinary record for United?7 red cards this season.And who knows how many more before we are over.With Ronaldo and Rooney’s temperament,we could have already been on 10 reds.
Some great points made here… agree with most (especially Patrick and Kevin’s)… I just think at the moment, the team is being put under some serious pressure for various reasons (tiredness, 50-50 decisions not going our way and generally not getting the rub of the green in front of goal given some of the chances missed yesterday)… I think it’s just a case of seeing it out and the confidence will be back… It tends to happen most seasons when United are chasing a league – there tends to be a bit of tension along the way in the run-in – but they see it through most of the time…
Just a couple of things to add – firstly, as mentioned above, Rooney needs to calm down a bit, but at the same time, what the fuck was he doing on the bench in the first place? I’d be frustrated if, even after half an hour or so, if I wasn’t getting me trakkie off and getting ready to go on… I know Scott won’t appreciate me saying this, but for his many faults, Mourinho would not cock about if he could see the game needed changing – and yesterday was one of those days…
Secondly, about the Villa game. Being a Glass Half Full person, I’d like to think that the second half performance at Fulham will be taken into this one… Ferguson needs to pick the right team – something I didn’t think he did yesterday, but did do against Liverpool – and get them to go at them from the off… The right team? Play Tevez up front with Ronaldo (presuming Berba’s not going to be fit), Fletcher & Carrick in the middle, Nani one side, Giggs the other, and the back four should be Nev, Rio, Evans and Rafael… Reasons? Firstly, Ronaldo through the middle negates any plans the opposition have of double-teaming him out wide, where I think he’s on the periphery of games too much.. plus if they wanna kick him, the free kicks will be more central. Fletcher needs to provide the defensive shield, and I would’ve picked Anderson here but his work rate against Liverpool was woeful – he was completely overrun in midfield… Carrick needs to get his crisp passing back… I’d stick Giggs on the left to help Rafael out with the possible threat of Ashley Young, while Nani will have the experience of Nev behind him… And finally, I hope Rio and Evans can cope with the pace and aerial threat of Agbonlahor… There. That was easy!!! But then, what do I know…
Blimey, I need to write quicker.. There were about 10 entries posted since I last looked!!!
Yeah i tend to forget some things Whiteside,so i post 2-3 times
everybody welcome bob
bob is a new united fan
who spends more time on this site that scott himself
hi bob
By the way,i am just now watching the game.The writing for Scholes was on the wall in the first 30 seconds.For him a response means making rush tackles.7 times sent off in his career for United?Is that more that Roy Keane?He was also the first England player to get sent off at Wembley.Brilliant player but very rush at times.
A Villa side in freefall minus Friedel (who always has a stormer) against a refreshed United side with renewed focus on retaining our title. I think the international break will help our players.
In hindsight,the Villa game been pushed back to Sunday is a good idea.Tevez will be fresh after the Argentina games.I am just watching the game.I couldn’t help but laugh by Ronaldo’s antics at the end of the first half.I don’t understand why it is forbidden for him to sit on the bench.
liverpool are just being premature ejaculators
soon as they lose either gerrard or torres theyre finished once and for all
were just humouring them, well still seal the deal
(hopefully)
just seen it there now, what an over reaction, the most pathetic thing is how the papers have ripped into rooney making out that he stabbed the ref in the chest or something. thats the thing about football every thing is blown out of proportion, take rugby for example there are punches thrown all the way throughout the match but play continues- papers dont make out that the person who has thrown the punch is a murderer or thug etc like they do with rooney. its pathetic fuck andy dunn, fuck the sun, fuck all rooneys doubters. they make stevie gbh to be this some sort of hero but hes due in court, he spent the early part of his career running around trying to break peoples legs.
doncobaino well said.I just saw the whole game.One thing to say in fairness to Dowd.We wound him up pretty good.It should have been Ronaldo though.Not Rooney.The media are loving teams cracking up.Last year they had a field day with Gallas’ breakdown.Many people feel that the Internationa break will do us good.It might for a while but the disciplinary record can’t get fixed this season.SAF can’t do it.How many times do Scholes and Vidic have to get sent off?One final thing doncobaino.I remember Saint Steve Gerrard’s early days.I seem to remember him slightly kicking Rivaldo with the edge of his boot at the back of his head.But no.It’s always about Beckham,Phil Neville,Cristiano Ronaldo and now Wayne Rooney.Anyway,there is no use in talking anymore now.Except the worst this season.
Gotta hate Tiny Tears: Yes! Bob is a regular on here,and for those of you who don’t know him Bob is an ex Everton fan who supported them though thick and thin untill Liverpool started to win trophies then he became a Liverpool fan. Now all the trophies are with us he has become a closet United fan and spends time on here learning about us untill he has the confidence to come out. His hobbies are few, masturbation being his principle interest. Lacking in any social graces Bob will persue fhis hobby in any situation much to the embarrasment of his family and his very few friends. His other hobby is voyuerism and as such he will be on here now watching and learning.
Hello Bob
I can’t believe you’ve actually written another article about the velocity and direction of rooney’s ball throwing actions from the weekend. Maybe it’s time to switch to commenting on bowls, Scott. Rooney behaviour was a red card waiting to happen, and he was just asking for it after throwing the ball like that. When you’ve been booked and tempers are running high, you need to be careful. The last thing you need to doing is hurling the football overhead towards the ref while your growling and have been shouting at him all day. It’s common bloody sense, which unfortunately rooney seems to lack at times.
Maybe you should be concentrating more on the weekend’s performance (i.e a match report instead of two ball throwing articles) or theinking forward to our future fixtures, or about the worrying threat of the scousers. Instead you just seem to pick out gossip and whinge over pathetic little issues regarding opposing manager/player comments. You call yourself a supporter but you spend most of your time bitching about people unrelated to united. You need to re-think your status, son.
How this site comes to win any kind of shitty award I’ll never know. Addictive reading though, like the Sun or any other sensationalist tabloid crap. But very little credibility or logic.
lets stay positive ay boys, remember last time tha dippers scored 5 they went on a shit run of form, dropping points left right and centre, rooney’s ban will give carlitos and berb a chance up top, as much as i love rooney i think berba and tevez has been very effective for us this season. we are still top of the league FACT.
fulham have only lost once to a top 5 side ine the league and that was us at o.t. so maybe they aint the mugs every one thinks,
we got 5 home games left out of the 9.
away trips to boro wigan hull and sunderland isn’t the worst run of away games,
loserpool have 2 key ties with chelsea and not strength in depth. we might have city and arsenal at home but dippers got everton and arsenal, lets start believing again and fuck tha fsw he is so smug atm, he won’t have alot to say in may. fsw>cunt
What you are seeing with Liverpool is similar to the inflation bubble that has killed our economy. Remember they are an inflated team and the no. of goals they have scored does not represent who they really are. They have scored far too many goals from penalties, set pieces, and lucky rebounds. Eventually, this will dry up and they will be back to true scouser form. They have simply not scored enough goals from traditional accurate passing to warrant their inflated value.
We have hit a recession, but we have depth.
Correct John Ferry.The way Liverpool are demolishing teams it won’t be too long before they become complacent.It’s inevitable.After all,they won’t always play with an extra man or be awarde penalties.
Not that they were unjust penalties and red cards of course.
Hey Duncan, hows about a link for your brilliantly written, objective and non-shitty award winning blog? Please sir, we’d love for you to enlighten us.
Quality, insightful article: ……
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/5023880/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-focuses-on-winning-as-others-idealise-and-innovate.html
Take some notes readers and writers. THIS IS ANALYSIS.
I hate to say this as a United fan but we have FUCKING BLOWN this league wide open now. WE ARE FUCKIN USELESS at the moment and it is not even in just a certain position, its everywhere! Deep down the real cause of this debacle AINT refs; to whom I do not give a damn about, it’s the Team. Our players do not have a Scooby now and this international break will get them out of the shirt for a bit coz we are just looking like anything but champions now. We have been playing shockingly since the FA Cup against Fulham and on reflection have been lucky not to lose all our last three games since. With yesterdays result, we have just handed Liverpool the momentum and incentive in the title race; coz now, even with our game in hand we look shaky, uncomfortable and completely unconvincing. Add to this the pressure of now needing to win the rest of our games this season, as well as missing players thru suspensions and injuries. It does not make good reading for us. We MUST SORT OUR HOUSE OUT and get our players hunger for more going, coz at the moment they are giving this title away and allowing the three chasing (I say three coz Arsenal have a chance as they are still to play all the teams above them again) to believe that they can catch us!
Fuck refs, the FA and everyone else for that matter!
United have to remember who we are and what we are fighting for!
4EVA UNITED
just wanted to be the 100 comment
the title is fun this season
but united will win
So we lost a game..two..back to back admitted..but so what..this is football and nothing too out of the ordinary.. We’ve had a glorious season so far and a blip (and at the moment it is just that). If anything this should shake up the team (as it should have after the liverpool game) for the rest of the season..we were winning all the games and way too ahead in the league without particularly playing that well.. Its absurd but to an extent understandable..but thats not whats bothering here.. I see this blog full of people berating rooney for aggression, petulance, disrespect……whats truely disgraceful is people taking the high moral ground this time. Rooney was forever synonymous with passion and his aggression was always his enthusiasm for the game..and we loved him for that..he wore his heart of his sleave..ran from pillar to post attacked defended tackled mistackled ..he is the the way he is and we’ve always adored him for that..so why the righteousness this time. More discomforting was the teams inability to come up with a performance after the horror show against liverpool, more worrying was their lack of urgency even after going a goal and a man down and yet the only one (as was the case against liverpool) who seemed bothered enough to do something gets the flak..even from his own supporters..the game was anyway lost but phil fucking dowd has almost ruined the next game as well and if Rooney (of all the people) was expected to take the card smiling you might as well call for perpetually banning him..
Any new topics today please Scott? There is a lot to talk about.
Sometimes i think about how far this team has gone.3 years ago,two loses in a row wouldn’t have mattered as much.It’s nice to be this spoiled.It should mean that the players would lick their wounds and get back to winning ways.The will need some help from the bench as well.From now on,we need a more settled first 11.As far as Rooney goes,i am fed up with him for one reason.He always finds a way for us to miss him everytime he is in fantastic form.This year,Rooney has played his best football for United,yet something always comes up.And we ae stuck with Ronaldo(9 months ago i wouldn’t have believed that i said that) who wishes he had the passion for the team that Rooney has in his little finger.
How anybody could claim that Roony’s throwing of the ball was not agressive is completley beyond me. He deserved to go. The only fans in the world who feel his sending off was harsh is you lot – EVERYBODY else can see very clearly it was definate yellow card. Why make a tit of yourself Mr Fergurson?
In addition – your rant about Rafa’s transfer spending is a myth. THE FACTS are very different. Including players out on loan (but not the full Tevez fee due to be added this summer) United’s squad costs over £215m, compared with Liverpool’s £134m.
So not only is your manager an ungracious bad looser, a hypocrite, biased – but hes also a total retard who cant count.
“Liverpool have done us a favour…” Pull the other one you miserable Scotish bellend, its got 19 League Championships and 5 European Cups on it
Looks like its Fergie who’s cracking up.
Mums, many people here don’t agree with Scotts assessment of the yellow card. Furthermore I think many would agree we have spend more but also smarter as the big amount came for players who have or did fit in and play a role. While Benitiz has over spent on players who are not Premier league championship quality. In recent years that has gotten better but nearly every major trophy he won has come from Houlliers men, Fergie build this team by himself and bought Ronaldo for pennies compared to his actually value. When Benitiz actually wins something on his own merits I’ll be impressed but so far Fergie is the most successful manager in the EPL, not bad for a retarded who cant count!
we needed this, all the champions of the world, europe and england and best team there has ever been has gone to their heads…now, whilst everyone talks about us as potential bottlers, the players might get some real incentive back to prove them all wrong…at least there is a challenge now, premiership was looking like the world’s most pathetic competition until this weekend, so it’s good for the game in general, and building all the scousers hopes up to knock them back down again and equal their record will be all the better
You do have a point Scott. But he did deserve to go. Yes, he did not touch the ref, but it was aggressive and who knows it could have hit the ref. Can’t he control his anger?
at least Rooney didn’y get further punishment from them Cunts at the FA…. probably relise that it shouldn’t have been given in the first place