Following United’s 3-1 win over Chicago Fire, Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken about the FA singling our club out when it comes to
In recent years they have banned Paul Scholes and Wayne Rooney for three league games following sending offs in a pre-season, banned Rooney for swearing and even charged Ferguson for praising a referee.
“I think sometimes there is an unfair focus on United on disciplinary issues,” said Ferguson. “It will always be there and I think we know that. I don’t really know whether it’s about me or the club, that’s a difficult one, but I think that [resentment] has got something to do with it. They’ve certainly always found a way to treat us differently. It has been happening for a while now and they always seem to find a way to do us when, with others, it’s seemingly forgotten. Personally, I felt hard done by last season. I defend my club, but that’s my job, yet part of the problem is that when I make comments, the media are onto the FA right away and there is no doubt about that. Then they feel forced to do something and they are afraid of what might happen if they don’t.”
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I think he’s hit the nail on the head with the last sentence. Wonder if he’ll be punished for it? Would be some kind of new record, a touchline ban before the season starts!
Here comes another ban…
And it looks like Fergie has dealt a devastating blow to the wee Wes clique:
“We are always looking for good quality players,” said Ferguson.
“We started the season with the players we have and I am satisfied with that.
“We are not looking at the moment but we are looking at combinations of central midfielders now at the club.”
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_7059026,00.html?
The Sneijder joking aside, this quote isn’t reassuring to me at all. Instead of buying a much needed CM we are trying to find the answer from within? So other than Carrick, Fletch and Ando, it looks like Fergie will rely on Cleverley, Gibson (if he stays), Giggs and Jones. Personally, I don’t see how this will answer our midfield issues. If Fletcher stays fit, that will be a major boost. But if he doesn’t and Ando struggles to find his feet again, I can’t see a reliable plan B.
haha costa,i think dis tyme it will be 4 d owl season.
Yep, me too. Defintely 4 d owl season.
Miserable sod. They invented hassling the ref! Rooney is a disgrace on and off the pitch. Spitting their dummy’s out again. Maybe he’s feeling the pressure of actually having one or two clubs in a position to compete against them this season.
omg,omg,omg someone tell him we need a CM, why isnt he talking about a CM? omg
im shit piss angry, we need CM!!
hey why not go for sean wright phillips? shitty would love the cache of having us apply to buy their players and defo sell him to us so they can look see what it feels like
also barcelona have no clue how to play against midgets so… think about that
also , omg he only needs tiny wages cos he’s so wee
if we dont get a CM a lot of ppl will go and be fan of city im sure, cos they got that cool and original stand backwards routine
im getting a sean wright philips tatto today just in case
fuck em chuck the book at us doesnt matter we keep on going
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with you Costas made gd signings but really do feel that the midfield needs someone extra for me its still our weakest area without doubt
@Costas
Glad you’ve finally seen the light. At the start of the window, there were just two signings I was hoping for- a goalkeeper and a CM. The latter doesn’t seem on the cards any time soon, sadly.
Our midfield looked far from imposing even against Chicago Fire, which is quite disconcerting. You could argue that we need a de Rossi more than a Sneijder, but at the moment, our midfield has neither a Scholes nor a Keane. I’m hoping Cleverly can fill in for the latter, with Jones and Pogba fighting it out for the midfield destroyer slot. All that, though, is no more than hopeful thinking, as these kids are still young and untested. Having a Sneijder might just ease them into the team.
Oh darn, it doesn’t seem to be happening anyway. Might as well start looking elsewhere.
Join the clique, Costas. It still isn’t too late.
To blame the F.A. alone for these actions is plainly wrong. It has everything to do with the worst media in the world right now. The British media, and especially Sky, are glad in focusing on Rooney’s swearing while seemingly forgetting other similar crimes. Any minor offense by a United player is discussed on no end but almost every other club gets a lot of leeway. I think that is the bigger issue here. The F.A. are complete dickheads but they act on evidence produced and the British media is completely responsible for doing their best to come up with any evidence against United. I guess it is no surprise that J.K. Rowling was able to come up with a character like Rita Skeeter living where she has for her entire life.
@Costas, Yeah, those comments are not reassuring in the least, are they? All joking aside, I still don’t think we’ve heard the end of the Sneijder saga. The Fly posted some interesting tidbits yesterday that made complete sense, but they’re all rumors at the present. I am absolutely sure that executive level talks are going on but whether it comes to fruition is another thing altogether.
There is another worrying aspect in that we don’t seem to have any backups in mind. It seems like it is Sneijder or bust. At least, that is how it seems to the public eye, though we can all assume that Sir Alex does have something in mind.
I don’t think we can work with what we have when the season kicks on into full gear. Fletcher’s fitness is worrying but I am sure he will get over it. The key is whether he can rediscover his old form, if he does, that alleviates some of our problems. We can also agree that Jones is going to fill in for Hargreaves, so that also clears some issues. But, as I love to point out, that still puts the season in the hands of Anderson and, to a smaller extent, Cleverley. I don’t think I will be completely reassured by that thought.
As I said, Sir Alex will have something in mind, and I think we may yet land another signing before the summer is over. But there is enough doubt surrounding the whole MF situation to make me skeptical.
It’s sometimes frustrating being the biggest cliub in the world… but hey, rather having theese issues then being Liverpool who, despite getting away with almost everything, still win f**k all.
Fucking Arseholes.
@scan74
Same here. I think it’s quite an unbalanced squad with 7 strikers, 6 wingers (If you include Giggs and Obertan) and just for 4 natural CMs.
@dela
Hi mate. Lol, just for clarification, I am not opposed to us making a midfield signing. I just don’t think that Sneijder (although he is a top player) is the answer to the problems we have in midfield. Because in my opinion we need a workhorse as cover for Fletch more than we do an attacking midfielder. And even if Fergie wants to look within the club for that player, I don’t believe Gibson, or Cleverley are that player. They are different midfielders. Jones on paper could, but then again, we don’t know whether an injury crisis at the back might require his presence there. Or how ready he is. As things stand now with our options in midfield and full back, I’ll dare say that another injury crisis could be very costly.
Agree@Costas@9:11
@Balaji
I wouldn’t completely rule out the Sneijder thing either. Never say never with Fergie in the transfer market. But it does look like it’s either him or nobody. We did the same thing with Berbatov 3 years ago. We sold Saha and waited to get him until the last minute. If the transfer hadn’t happened, that would have left us just with 2 strikers for a season where we ended up playing 66 games. Our midfield option aren’t as limited right now, but they are not too good either. And it might be enough providing some “if”s happen: Fletcher regainin his form, Ando maturing, Carrick staying injury free and Cleverley stepping up.
Said it before and ill say it again, Scott Parker. Cheap and good cover for fletch. Bit old though so only shortish term. I reckon Ferguson got something in pipeline, he knows we desperately need quality new cm.
This joey barton rumour better be bollocks by the way.
The FA is MANDATED to be fair – but they’ll give you an unprecedented 5 game ban for being successful? Thats not fuckin fairness, thats Gangsterism at best. One group get it in the neck worse than everybody else for the same offence? Bollocks to what their Tribunal says, the FA is corrupt to its Core.
Last I checked its not just Muslims passing round briefcases stuffed with CASH
Scott parker? are you fucking kiddin me, i can assure you that overrated donkey won’t be joining united, what next? people will be wanting the teletubbies.
We need a CM? Apparently Owen Hargreaves is on a free
Fa are fucking assholes! Period!!!
Those comments are not assuring quite alrite, but still know his preferred m.o I won’t count against a CM signing before the end of transfer…got to admit, it might come in the 11th hour of the window.
Still BEL19VE, ALL YE WEE WES CLIQ!!!?!!Fa are fucking assholes! Period!!!
Those comments are not assuring quite alrite, but still know his preferred m.o I won’t count against a CM signing before the end of transfer…got to admit, it might come in the 11th hour of the window.
Still BEL19VE, ALL YE WEE WES CLIQ!!!?!!
Parrot always sort me out, y!Parrot always sort me out, y!
Samuel, Scott parker isn’t the top signing creative we need but we do also need cover for fletch and he would fit the bill perfectly for next to nothing. He is not overrated.
Come to think of it:
-if we were really in talks with Inter for Sneijder
-talks has stalled for a certain price Inter want
-these comments gives Inter the impression we are not desperate
-SAF’s comments can only tend to force there hands and push their price down.
Add to the fact that he always prefers his signings to appear a surprise to the moronic media and us loving fan…i say we still haven’t heard the last of the CM.
Wee Wes, Believe!
Time to juice Cleverley up on steroids and get him to 450 pounds wielding claw hammers in each hand.
Defensive Midfielder? We’ll give the league a motherfuckin Defensive Tractor!
Other than that I think my balls be sweating for the new season. A small stretch of injuries and we’ll be seeing shit like Lindegaard playing Trequartista..
Fergie on Not Signing KettleScrotum:
“Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that the reason Manchester United did not sign Carlos Tevez permanently was because the Argentine had planned to retire in 2013.
The former West Ham United forward spent two years on loan with the Red Devils, putting in strong performances as he made 99 appearances and scored 34 goals.
But following his loan spell at Old Trafford, the 27-year-old went on to join arch-rivals Manchester City and eventually win the FA Cup with them last season.
Now Sir Alex insists that it was because of the former Boca Juniors man’s future plans that United decided against signing him.
“Tevez told us he was only going to play for four more years,” he said. “If we had signed him on a five-year contract knowing that he was going to quit in four, there would have been no re-sale value for us.”
The Argentina international has since made it clear he wants to leave City to be closer to his family in his homeland, but a potential deal with Corinthians of Brazil did not reach fruition.
Serie A giants Inter have also been linked with a move for the industrious hitman, but Sir Alex said: “I’m not sure Inter would pay £45 million, especially after he’s said he wants to go back to Argentina to see his kids. I can see him staying at City.”
honestly i am having doubts about fergie’s statement that we are not even looking at any midfielders to bring into the club we are rather looking at combinations within the club. Come on Fergie please. Just one midfielder. it was no more apparent than yesterday that we need a proper central midfielder.
Lol@Manchuchu@10:01
@ 0161-Jon
I, for what it’s worth, completely agree with you on Parker. A quality player for a poor team last season, I think he adds some depth and bite our midfield needs. He also wouldn’t block the progress of some of our young talent at the club. Plus, with so many wingers available, I expect much of our creativity to come from the wings this season where we’ll likely always have fresh options. That, combined with Rooney hitting the ground running, should mean the need to a creative CM is reduced, so steel is what we need more. Diarra and de Rossi are other good optionsΩ
Jon – believe me he is overrated, i’d rather just stick to gibbo or promote midfield players from the youth than go buy him.
At the highest level, parker has been found wanting, he has found his level at westham and i’m pretty sure sir alex won’t go in for him
i think fergie doesn’t wanna dip into the market for a centre midfield because he feels there are some outstanding young players coming through at the club, you know with fergie he’ll throw young players in if they’re good enough, lets see what happenJon – believe me he is overrated, i’d rather just stick to gibbo or promote midfield players from the youth than go buy him.
At the highest level, parker has been found wanting, he has found his level at westham and i’m pretty sure sir alex won’t go in for him
i think fergie doesn’t wanna dip into the market for a centre midfield because he feels there are some outstanding young players coming through at the club, you know with fergie he’ll throw young players in if they’re good enough, lets see what happen
Sneijder will sighn for United! But as a few people have mentioned we need a player in there protecting the back four also. Not sure where we’ll find him? Doesn’t seem to be to many available at the moment. Those that are seemingly available, such as Diarra, would have been signed by now if Sir Alex wanted them.
As for the FA. After last season, I dont think even the ABU’s can fail to see the disparity in the treatment we receive!
have you ever heard the phrase ‘big fish in a small pond’? thats what parker is, he shown because westham are filled mostly with poor players, at the highest level he’d be exposed badly, for england he already is.. just an ok player even at his very best, so don’t give me Bullshit about parker being this superman.have you ever heard the phrase ‘big fish in a small pond’? thats what parker is, he shown because westham are filled mostly with poor players, at the highest level he’d be exposed badly, for england he already is.. just an ok player even at his very best, so don’t give me Bullshit about parker being this superman.
People bang on about protection for back four but what do you think carrick does? you don’t notice because he isn’t a archtypical Bullshit rampaging beast, he is intelligent, calm and reads the game, his tackling is good to, you don’t need to be a beast to play defensive midfield, look at busquets.People bang on about protection for back four but what do you think carrick does? you don’t notice because he isn’t a archtypical Bullshit rampaging beast, he is intelligent, calm and reads the game, his tackling is good to, you don’t need to be a beast to play defensive midfield, look at busquets.
Nigel De Jongs’s contract negotiations have stalled. We should sign him!
i wanted de jong to join after euro 2008 in which he was outstanding but some nasty streak about that guy, he has caught the city syndrome.
LISTEN! We all have to believe in SAF and what he says. Who knows, he might just be playing another trick to hide the signing of a new midfielder or he’s saying the truth. If he isnt going to sign a new CM then he must have some belief with the midfielders he has or some of the ones coming thru the ranks like Paul Pogba.
Remember, IN SIR ALEX FERGUSON WE TRUST
Samuel – I agree, but he is the only player at the club doing that at the moment. If injured or has a dip in form like he has had a fair few times, we have nobody else who can do the same job.
I think hell freezing over or Liverpool winning the prem would happen before City sold us De Jong!!!
Looks like our friend Willie was on to something! Its the first story on the page, I could not use the link provided…..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/default.stm
Nice comments by the boss, I love how he keeps having sly digs at those bastards.
Morning / Afternoon all true REDS
People always like to dismiss Carrick but he’s a great player and was easily out most effective midfielder last season. While we lack flair in central midfield a tad, you can’t have a team consisting entirely of flair players because you end up like Arsenal.
We have plenty of creative options on the wing and up front, so let’s not panic.
The FA is so fucking bias there is no point discussing it any further…
However our CM issue definitely has me worried… Cleverly really got to step up his game if he is the guy to replace Scholes… However, Jones and Pogba could play that midfield destroyer and open up Carrick and Anderson for more advanced position… Both of them were known to be creative midfielders before they joined us, so they might just thrive in an attacking role…
If Fergie is just saying this to drop a bombshell on us later, hopefully its Sneidjer… If not, any one of Scott Parker, Yann M’Vila and Javi Martinez (Spain u-21 captain) would do nicely too… All good box to box midfielders… Vidal would have been there too but he just moved to Juventus….
Well… However it pans out, IN FERGIE WE TRUST..
Am happy with everyone in the squad, its pre season, no pressure and don’t need anymore signings,
@ king Eric Obertan is a monster and I hope he can add another option for Sir. Reminds me of what happen with Ronaldo.
m.kelly – i agree, but i don’t think a defensive midfield player is all that necessary however we need more all round midfield players, time anderson steps up another level, he needs to lose lose a little more weight but he does have attributes to be a class player but lacks consistency and continuity due to injuries.
Fletcher hopefully will recover from the illness and return to better form, if fergie aint buying then he’ll promote from the youth ranks, i just have that feeling, but hey the transfer market is still wide open.m.kelly – i agree, but i don’t think a defensive midfield player is all that necessary however we need more all round midfield players, time anderson steps up another level, he needs to lose lose a little more weight but he does have attributes to be a class player but lacks consistency and continuity due to injuries.
Fletcher hopefully will recover from the illness and return to better form, if fergie aint buying then he’ll promote from the youth ranks, i just have that feeling, but hey the transfer market is still wide open.
Apparently in the times it’s a shock move for joey barton. Oh dear. I don’t buy murdochs papers so i hope it isn’t even in print, let alone come true.
What a bunch of old ladies on here. You lot need to grow some nads and that applies to the biggest bleater of all- Ferguson.couldn’t win anything for 7 years running the richest club in the world. Had Scholes, Giggs, Beckham and co handed to him against his “better” judgement and now they’re all going he’s not got the replacements so he knows his time is over. See you whimps in the Championship!!
Relax folk. Fergie will have summat up his sleeve. He said the other day our options in midfield weren’t great. Get one of the twins in there or Pogba. Too early for the latter probably but fuck me he is a big lad. What Barton rumours? Come on Fergie get Joey you know it makes sense!! No joking aside I can think of worse players tough. Good passer of the ball. Wicked deliveries and scores goals.
Yeah. So true. Even my grandparents say that. LOL
But it shows that we are successful than other club! We are happy! Wooohoooo
Seriously sitting and laughing at some posters who are already skeptical about Jones and De Gea, this after only their first appearance! Same posters who said who the fuck is Hernandez when we signed him last season….. Do you remember Evra’s first match away at shitty? Or even the first few games by Vidic where by he was way below average?
King Eric
If we do sign Barton than I will forever call our friend Willie the genius of all time! He has been saying its on the cards for a while now!
Scott Parker? Naw… don’t think so. But we could use someone his age ’cause I think in 2-3 years time we need to bring up Pogba/Tunnicliffe and we don’t want to keep them out. Next season they can start training with the first team and in 2-3 years start to stake more of a claim on a starting spot.
I can dream can’t I? =o)
I’d prefer Barton over Parker… a hell of a bite in that player ;o) Would be funny having a maniac back in midfield!
Mikael
My only reservation on Barton is that he is a die hard Liverpool supporter. Not arguing what King Eric stated in terms of his attributes and what he can add to our game and like you say we could do with another maniac in midfield!
However I wonder, say we sign him and he scores the winner at Anfield, will he celebrate from the heart?
He tells us who City and Chelsea are likely to sign and thinks at the moment we are finished buying.My take on his statement FLANNEL.
Barton is just the type of player we need, him playing the Roy Keane role (breaking up everything that moves) and then IMO Rooney in the Paul Scholes role (spraying balls around, and hitting team mates from 40 yards on the head will they are pissing in the bushes)
Somebody seriously needs to work out the echo at work on ROM. Has Scott taken note yet?
I don’t understand people who are seriously considering Parker. I think he is a good player and not over-rated. I would’ve taken him in a heartbeat when he was young and moved to Chelsea. At the time, we were looking for the perfect replacement for Keano, and he would’ve been it. Now, he has just stagnated and is very old and lacks the energy of younger mid-fielders. So, thanks but no thanks, I don’t want him.
I think the Barton rumours are just for a laugh. I think he is another decent player but somehow can’t stand the thought of him in a United jersey.
Another thing that has been discussed to death, and why I don’t want a defensive MF, is I envision Jones playing there a lot. Sure, it would mean breaking a great, budding partnership between him and Smalling. However, I still think Jones will play more games in MF than in defense this coming season.
Having said what I said about Barton, I would take him over wee Wes any day of the week. Much rather have a player with true grit and determination rather some fickle one who spends most of his time on the ground and asks his wife for transfer advice.
Barton > wee Wes
CedarsDevil – Tru… but we have Owen, maybe not a diehard supporter but he was a Liverpool legend and I can’t complain about his contribution to the team. I wouldn’t mind if Barton signed, scored the winner at Anfield and didn’t go over the top celebrating… it’s our job. It would be sweet of course but It’s not the most important thing… we already knocked them of their pearch ;o)
Agree@CedarsDevil@11:45
@CedarsDevil.. Being the leader of the anti wee Wes clique, I’m sure you would take anyone except Wee Wes..LOL
Morning Cedars. Lookily I have missed the posts questioning Jones and De Gea! I watched the game last night and thought they looked ok? I challenge the people questioning them to try and look at themselves doing anything requiring effort on return from their hols! These people would be blowing out their ass mowing the lawn, let alone playing competitive football!
Utd4life
Hahaha, not to that extent my friend. I just dislike high profile money grabbing whore players coming to United. I only want players who are desperate to play for our great club…. Guess I am just an old fashioned type supporter…….Even if they are not desperate to play for us I would at least expect 100% commitment……
Mikekelly12
Hi there, I bet if we had internet back in the 80′s, similar type of fickle fools would have said why on earth have we signed Robbo!
Hi guys! In a swedish sillyseason column, it states that we won’t sign an midfielder and that Sir Alex wants to use what he has already! I love United and our players but at the moment we dont have Barcelona level midfielders. Carrick is great and so is our super legend Giggsy and anderson has qualities but they are nowhere near Xavi and Iniesta. Though i understand that the sneijder deal may not happen because of his bad resale value, i think we should do our utmost to get Nasri. Nasri is young and alot cheaper! Toss 30 million quid on Wengers Arse and we have a quality mid! Wonderful game last night!
PS! WE ARE ALSO LINKED WITH JOEY BARTON!! WTF
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/07/24/2588396/manchester-united-manager-sir-alex-ferguson-considering-a
Cedars – I was half joking about barton lol. Can’t doubt, the lad is a good player, but I don’t think we’ll sign him. Onto Fergie’s comments now(death breath) I can’t believe for one minute, that a man I have so much respect for, thinks we’re set in midfield. Before the season had even finished, most of us thought we needed a CM. Some said a creative type. Others said a defensive midfielder. What we all agreed on, we needed something in that area of the pitch. That’s why I still think the boss is bluffing here. He said in October, we needed to spend big, to replace VDS, Giggs and Scholes. We’ve spent big on Young and De gea(who looked class last night) still hoping on Scholes replacement. If we don’t, I can’t see us getting to another champion league final. We might be pushing it anyway, expecting another European final. I’ve no doubt, we can win the league, but lets not get complacent on that either. Everyone around us has strengthened their squads. We’ve made 3 signings, but I still think we could do with one more. So come on Sir Fergie! Stop bloody bluffing and put this RedNut at ease!
I just heard fergies comments regarding a midfielder if its true were not signing anybody then were fucked. Of all the top teams our centre midfield is the weakest and cleverly is not good enough yet to be our main man. Almost every away game last season we were over run in midfield and don’t expect any better this year if we don’t buy.
I know Sir Alex proves us all wrong time and time again but I can’t help the way I feel and I feel we really need to sign a centre midfield player.
If he’s looking to find the solution from within well seeing as Pogba didn’t even make the trip to America it looks like it’s a season too early for him, and tunnicliffe has been sent out on loan. I hope Cleverly can have a long career at United but from what I’ve seen of him I’m not sure he’s ready to carry the burden left by Scholes. This leaves Carrick who’s fine and does what he does, but I think we can all accept now that he’ll never be one of the greats. Fletcher is fine too and slightly above the level of Carrick but he’s hardly Robson or Keane. Anderson drives me mental because he has all the ability but not the attitude so who knows what we’re going to get from him. Gibson will still probably be sold, and Giggs, well hopefully he’ll produce the goods again this season but age could finally catch up with him at any stage, it’s too hard to tell when.
My point is the midfielders we currently have are fine and I’m happy for them to all stick around but my gut feeling is that there’s something missing, just one really great player to allow the rest to shine.
I’m not one for speculating on who we should sign. I find it totally pointless commenting on newspaper speculation that some reporter just concocted over his bowl of corn flakes or while taking a shit. I still have a feeling we will sign someone though, and whoever that may be I’ll leave that up to the man who knows best.
Can’t believe some of you are thinking of Barton. Decent player, but not fir for the United shirt. And if you think someone of the calibre of DeRossi is not needed at United bcos we got Fletch, then howcome Barton? Fucking beats me…
@CedarsDevil.. No arguments there Mate.. I can understand where you are coming from but players are spoilt rotten these days because of agents, money, etc.. Even I’m hoping that SAF promotes one of the youth players rather than bringing a big name signing.. Screw the Barcelona protocol, we might not beat them now but we will eventually..
Good afternoon raving Reds!
‘Ferguson doesn’t expect Giggs to be subjected to abuse from fans.’
“I am not sure Giggs will get that (abuse). He is one of the few players that other fans like. He has their respect. He has never been sent off and he’s had only a few bookings. I don’t see it being a problem.”
http://www.football365.co.za/story/0,22162,14287_7059209,00.html
Willie
You must be on an overdose of coffee, longest post I think you have ever written on RoM! You raise some decent points about our midfield and for your sake I hope Sir Alex is bluffing, as far as I am concerned I hope he is not!
keano99
Name me a better midfield in the PL?
HOW THE FUCK CAN FERGIE SAY NO SiGNINGS?!IS HE LOSING THE PLOT?!!!I hope this is just a smokescreen but I fear it isn’t.
Cedars – you’re right pal, the same people who slated Fletcher several seasons ago will be included too! We’ve been around long enough to spot them.
On Joey Barton, regardless what qualities he might bring on the field there is no chance sir Alex will sign him because he’s a thug! The sort of bloke that kicks a bloke in the head while he’s on the floor! He apologises, says he’s a changed man then does it all over again! Not for me.
Wouldn’t mind De Jong?
Utd4life
Touche my friend…….. Hernandez was desperate to sign for us because it was a dream come true for him. That is the sort of attitude I like to see without being too naive of course
Why has everyone forgot about Sneijder?
38 days, 11hrs 35 minutes
Mikekelly12
No arguments on Barton, I was making a point on how much I do not want wee Wes at United that I would rather have Barton instead!
De Jong? Is he not a thug as well? But I guess our own Keano was called a thug as well!
T4m. Fucking chill out. Fergie must be shitting it at the thought of being replaced by some budding manager on here who have clearly won more trophies than him. Oh wait a min•••.
The man is bluffing. He said only last week our midfield options aren’t as good and even today said we are always looking for that player.
I honestly thiink there is summat in the sneijder talk. We will wait and see but for fuck sake wait till the window closes before moaning to fuck. Oh and please tell me which other clubs in the prem have strengthened greatly? Yeah fuck all.
He aint gonna get someone for the sake either. That’s not what he does.
For the record, I’d take Barton over De Rossi.
King Eric
Sir Alex has obviously lost the plot. You are clueless my friend.
Agreed, however I was talking more about his antics off the field and in training, when calling him a thug rather than on the field of play. Dont think De Jong is like that off the field but I could be wrong.
King eric,I know I’m overreacting but fergie’s comment seem like a nightmare,the way he adamantly maintains his stance is justifying my fear.hopefully its a smokescreen.
Mikekelly12
Sir Alex sorted out Cantona, I am sure he can sort out anyone after him!
T4M
What is your fear exactly?
Coffee? Don’t drink it.
His fear is of the unknown.
I agree with a lot of Costas was saying about our central midfield and Sneijder whether we sign him or not. Our main area of concern is that last season we had struggled away from home and that was down to our midfield. Scholes is gone, Giggs is a year older , Hargreaves gone, and Fletcher is recovering from illness and we don’t know how long it will take for him to get match fit and ready for first team action. Then there’s Gibson who hasn’t impressed much and SAF tried to sell. So that leaves Carrick , Cleverly and Anderson plus Giggs. I would love for Anderson to grow up and dominate games and be more consistently good in games. He need only look at Nani. Unless SAF buys players or promotes the reserve or U18s then we will struggle this season and miss out on winning the EPL. I’ve read that Chelsea bought the Barcelona player Oriol who is likened to Busquets a defensive CM who is technically good for about £5m. Why didn’t we go for him? maybe Paul Pogba will be that player and Ravel Morrison will provide the creativity and energy that we need in midfield. I just think that being completely objective in our prospects for the new season I believe we won the title because we had SAF get the max out of all his players plus our fantastics home record. No we have lost some key players in midfield and given we haven’t really replaced any of them, how can we hope to retain our title and even go on to win the Champions League. Look at what Barcelona did to us? If we don’t have players who are technically any good, and who don’t have the energy and intelligence to control the tempo and rhythm of the game in midfield then we will struggle in this competition. As fans we all dream of United winning the treble and at some stage defeating Barcelona going to Munich and lifting that beautiful trophy with the big ears. But let’s be honest with ourselves and see what is blatantly obvious. Buying Sneijder and/or De Rossi won’t cure our midfield problems. It goes deeper than that. If we want to dominate Europe and England then we need midfield PLAYERS who are young , technically good and comfortable on the ball, are tactically intelligent and have a big game winning mentality. Who work together with the attack and defence to boss teams about. There has to be a harmony and an understanding of you want to play as a team and purpose to things you do. Look at Borrusia Dortmund the German champions. They have this especially in midfield.
If SAF doesn’t buy or promote another player the best we can all hope for is to finish in the top 4 and a semi final place in Europe.
I think you’ll find that he has spoken to Neil Custis of The Sun, about ongoing negotiations for Sneijder, which will appear in tomorrow’s paper. So yet again his press conference means nothing.
Barton, that Scouse cunt who went around sporting that ridiculous moustache last season? Thanks, but no thanks.
I am not sure how much we should read into Fergie’s ‘no more signings’ statement. Remember Dimitar Berbatov?
I don’t know if its going to be Sneijder, Garson, Barton or whoever – I’m not going to torture myself speculating. What I do know based on last seaon’s and yesterday’s evidence is that central midfield is one area that does need serious reinforcement with a midfielder who will want the ball and dictate the game by the scruff of the neck. I don’t see Cleverley doing that (yet) for all our hopes for him, and Ando needs to take his game up several notches to be that kind of influence. Don’t get me wrong, we’ll probably still be right up there without a new signing (or two), but we’ll again be that one piece short of where we want to be. I would be really surprised if SAF is still not looking for new midfielders, unless he really believes one of these lads can really take on the responsibility effectively. If he’s going to be relying on Giggsy as central mid again this season, well that is a whole different issue, and one I won’t be all that happy about. Like I said, I would take SAFs statements with a huge bucket of salt – I’m sure we’re still looking, we’ll see what happens…
To quote the man himself, “We’ve got a big squad now and we’re going to need it, I think. It’s a young squad too. We’ve got Chicharito to join us on tour, Darron Gibson’s back home. Then we’ve got the young players at the club like Pogba, Ravel Morrison, the two Keane brothers… we’ve got a very healthy situation at the moment.”
To rectify my previous comment, maybe Pogba will have a part to play. I don’t think Gibson is the answer however, and clearly neither does Ferguson as he was happy enough to sell him to Sunderland for a relatively small fee, and I still think he’ll end up leaving eventually.
That said, maybe we won’t be signing anyone else and he’s going to see what the likes of Cleverly, Pogba, etc, can do. Fuck it that will do me, if the boss is happy then I’m happy. I’m sick and tired of being made to look silly whenever I question him. If you ask me would I like us to sign someone then I’d have to say yes but then again what the fuck do I know.
For all those totally freaking out over no more signings, relax a little and keep the faith.
CedarsDevil,I fear for our midfield.we always get overrun in midfield its so annoying.If we can fix it up(both Creative and destroyer) then we will walk the league and not get embarrassed by barca
Oh god barton, fergie has made some signings of the unexpected, but that is plain crazy.
My god, imagine Joey Barton and Ravel Morrisson in the same squad! I think SAF has his hands full with the thug Ravel, to want Barton in the squad as a role mode for Ravel. I wouldn’t even think of Ravel as a back up option right now given that it looks like on current form he’s more likely to start for the local prison’s football team than Manchester United!
The dreaded ‘No More Signings’ Quote!
This is the problem with the FA. None of them were ever footballers and even though I believe non footballers can become managers I do not believe that a room full of non footballers, with the exception of none, can make sound footballing decisions. The FA is a joke, jumping on the media bandwagon and choosing the latest international manager to take on the england team or the latest English wonder coach, like McClaren for his league cup win and Keegan for his Newcastles 2nd in the league and ability to not get rilled byy the press. Hoddle for his passing out of defence 20 odd years earlier. I suppose the next in line should we go English would be Harry “twitcher” Redknapp because he has a TV pundit son and he managed to qualify for the champions league one year.
I remember coming on here last year and telling people to calm down about how we would destroy Chelsea in the champions league because we didnt have English refs. And we did. A few weeks later I was warning and saying we’ve blown it because we were playing the same opposition in the league (which we thankfully beat). The FA may not be corrupt in regards of finances but they are corrupt in their morals and common sense.
But I will say one thing, to go into the new season with the current midfield, after the way the united midfield have performed since rome 2009 it is becoming frustrating. The central midfield is becoming like leprosy in the boss’s eyes, he does not want to touch that area and strengthen it. I will say this quiet a few times, to into a 4th season without strengthening the midfield especially with scholes and hargreaves leaving the club, carrick having another up and down season, and fletcher still not recovering from this horrible virus, while anderson’s fitness and inconsistent levels make this a very worrying area more than ever before.
@willie and others, Don’t worry, it is only the “No more signings” quote. Not the dreaded “No value in the transfer market” quote.
We should start sweating only when the latter is referenced by the great man.
And, even then, I don’t think Sir Alex directly mentioned there won’t be anymore signings. He just gave a hint at the difficulties we are having in this window in regards to trying to get a mid-fielder into the club.
It is also a little strange from the boss with the engine room, when the engine room was at its best with keane scholes and butt in 2001 and then when we realised P neville and fletcher were good enough in that area, he signs players like veron djemba and kleberson, despite the fact the midfield was already a strong area. Yet when we really need the engine room strengthened so much, he has not gone out and strengthened the area
fergie is the boss
It does sound crazy and when I saw the sun come up with that i thought they were mad. BUT now I see the sense in it. I championed at the beginning of last year with the idea of a lower league bruiser coming into midfield. We all miss Roy Keane and against some opposition Hull, Burnley, at times we’ve looked out muscled and despite the fouls the referee didnt want to be made to look like he was favouritising the established premier league team. A player like Barton who would be, like Owen, humble enough to realise that he may sit a while and a league medal would be worth it. Building a squad that can compete everywhere needs its differing parts and Barton has the edge that (more Keanes aggression in the tackle) that we lack. Andersson is not the greatest tackler, Carrick covers zonally and doesnt go to ground as much as a conventional midfielder would and its got to be said that Barton is a player that doesnt give up but fights to the final whistle.
I would welcome the move even though Im under no dissillusions that hes a not a thug and that hes the answer to the departure of Scholes. I think the combo of Obertan, Young, Giggs, and Andersson can make up for alot of that and Barton would be very usefull.
Kvn. The barca player the rentboys have signed? Good god mate. He hasn’t had a sniff at Barca and won’t at Chelsea. Pogba will be better than him. I have no concern whatsoever what other clubs are doing. Hargreaves? We have won two titles and got to two European cup finals without him. Its almost three year since he played so I don’t factor him in when talking about midfielders. Lose out on the Prem? Do me a favour. We have a much bigger and better squad by some distance.
The Fly is spot on. Fergie was talking to Custis about ongoing negotations with Wesley. People seriously need to relax.
@Balaji – We haven’t had a ‘no value in the market’ quote yet but we have had a ‘most players are not man united standard’ (or something to that effect) quote – could it be that barring sneijder and a couple of other players (like Modric and Nasri) SAF actually believes there is nooone out there who’s going to be any better than what we have already? Honestly, I personally don’t mind if we splurge out on a young, huge talent, but we must get one more guy in. At the least, it is going to add freshness to the midfield which has been the same forever, and get everyone at the club excited, and the midfielders competitive. This is when Chelsea look like they will get either Modric or Pastore, or both!
I couldn’t stomach watching Barton playing for United. Also agree with samual we don’t need Parker he certanly is not united material and we have better already in my opinion!
Great to see some positive Carrick posts ad he is such a classy player and has been ridiculed unairly by band wagon fans who believe everything their told and read!
T4M
Your rudeness to Sir Alex is unacceptable. You shout “!IS HE LOSING THE PLOT?!!!I ”
Then, when you are challenged, you say “I know I’m overreacting but fergie’s comment seem like a nightmare,the way he adamantly maintains his stance is justifying my fear.hopefully its a smokescreen.” and then say “we always get overrun in midfield its so annoying.If we can fix it up(both Creative and destroyer) then we will walk the league and not get embarrassed”
No apology, just excuses! Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
Do not accuse Sir Alex of going insane, or being incompetent.
Apologise without excusing your disgusting attitude, and watch your mouth in future.
Your embarrassment is irrelevant.
The fact that you are embarrassed by United shows you to be a fickle, self-centered ingrate.
An unreserved apology to Sir Alex and United is now your only acceptable course.
No excuses, just an apology.
Balaji – Don’t know this time. I hope I’m wrong, but I think that’s us done on signings. Park will probably fill the void in midfield. Square pegs in round holes again. That’s the way Fergie seems to be going. He doesn’t want to buy a CM atm. For whatever reason. The boss knows better than us fans. We’re just mere mortals, compared to the great man.
Waaa Heeeeyy 3-1 Comeback lads, felt like a proper game it did, My Melted brain has recovered.
The Young lads and De Gea impressed me. Welbeck looks awesome. Cleverley will get games with us to his worth, quality player.
Macheda’s like a faster Berb and needs to go out on loan to learn more about how to deal with opposition defenders and play at premier league pace.
Super – Nani was great, its gonna be a good year for the lad, if Valencia struggles with his injury we got the best winger in the country filling his boots. The step up from Nani from 2009 to 2011 has been immense.
Berby looked great but his finishing let him down, C’mon Berby You Cool Cat – Be More Ruthless !
What a Ball from Rio
Rafael is going to become better than Dani Alves at this rate 
Johnny Evans = Big Johnny = Big John O’shea
Rooney to get 30+ goals next season, Chico to get 18+ and Berbs to get 15+. Pretty Likely.
The last few games he’s been average….I want to see Breathtaking,
Ando let me down
C’mon Son! Everyone wants to see him do well but its up to him to improve on his simple long balls and quick short passes.
20th Awaits
I’d take Barton.
It’s not show friends. It’s show business.
And it’s good business when you have an enforcer fierce enough to dangle John Terry’s bloodied dismembered leg in front of his smug fuckin face and then make Terry say, “thank you”.
That’s Joey Barton. He’s Keano except he got caught a few times by five oh.
Fergie banned Custis from his press conferences. And the brother as well. I wouldn’t put much stock, in what he has to say.
Smartalex,I love sir alex and manutd a lot.I’m a very frustrated and confused fan right now.Forgive I’m just desperate to see new Centre midifielders come in.
Correct ^^
Keano was a nasty SOB on the pitch.
Football snobs, don’t want Barton.
Jonathan Northcroft of the Sunday Times was sitting at home on a Saturday night struggling to meet his deadline for the morning newspaper. He decides to go pour himself a drink to help him relax and take some of the pressure off. As he passes the TV there’s an episode of The Simpsons on where Bart is getting up to his usual mischief. Eureka Jonathan cries, Barton to United, that’ll do. Twelve hours later United fans from across the globe debate the pros and cons of Joey Barton being our new midfield general. Oh what a world we live in.
And anyone even attempting to somehow compare Joey fucking Barton to Roy Keane, please do me a favour.
My two pennies worth to coin a phrase
I personally was thinking that SAF would at least bring one world class midfielder in
However if the boss wants to promote within then he should have taken Pogba and Tunni with him to America – they can’t play in the reserves forever – sooner or later they have to be given a chance – and as far as I’m concerned if they are good enough then no matter how old they are – they have got to come in and take over. It is as simple as that because their is only enough of how much we can all drool or rave about them – if their time has come then the gaffer should throw them in full stop.
Maybe that might happen now – who knows – it would be a gamble but then signing an unknown striker and defender last year was equally a bigger gamble and that bloody turned out ok didn’t it?
byron1970
No one on here is comparing Joey Barton to Roy Keane they are comparing some aspects of his play to be like some aspects of Keanes play.
If you want an enforcer like Keane in the squad to take care of the nasty stuff on the ODD game day, who do you suggest. Only a poor pundit ridicules a comment and never comes up with an ALTERNATIVE.
Lord have mercy, parker in midfield, even barton is mooted and Roney playing in midfield, i respect people’s opinion but what uttter tosh. second rate players(barton and parker) for the midfield we’ve been crying out for years. No thanks, i’d rather have our youngster thank you very much. Fucking Joey Barton, what a piss take.
i don’t get how we salivate over the thought of quality players linked to us and then turn around and suggest Barton,just doesn’t make any sense
No new centre mid….shocking, for me could be a very costly mistake. We have needed a top centre mid for the last 3 seasons!!…. BUT I’m not SAF so we will see if the gamble pays off or not.
The Barca Protocol
Xavi Iniesta Sanchez
Joey Barton
Oh my God its actually a newspaper rumour we’re in for Barton. God help us
Balaji –
Too much Harry Potty mate, Cool down with a Butterbeer, Try some Bertie Bott’s Every Flavour Beans with Firewhisky, beautiful stuff. 
Rita Skeeter huh?
On the Transfer Baloney – Perhaps Fergie’s willing to wait a year to sign Scholes’ replacement, like Naseri on a free
or a Cheaper older Sneijder next some 
Oh well, we may not be able to grab a game by the scruff of the neck in 65% of our games in the middle but we’ve dealt with it for nearly 3 years since the Hargo,Carrick, Scholes trio. Only problem is that now we have less players in the middle, hopefully Gibbo stays and impresses and wins over the fans.
No ones suggesting Barton instead of a Sneijder ya planks.
GoatinaUnitedShirt – I am a United fan and if you say I’m a poor pundit then fair enough. I’ve no intention of ridiculing anyones comments. I was merely commenting that Joey Barton isn’t fit to wear Roy Keanes boots and just because he’s a tough guy, he doesn’t merit such a comparison. As for an alternative, I didn’t even consider one, besides Fletcher is every bit as good an “enforcer” as Barton and the Scot isn’t a total fucking scumbag.
i think i’d bloody well accuse SAF if he does go for Barton. Comparing Barton and Keano is another piss take. This fella smashed the transfer record FFS. He wasn’t just a brute, a i’ll kick everything i see and hope the Ref lets its go. I can’t believe what my eyes are reading here today.
Fair enough if we can’t get the players we want or if he’s satisfied. No problem i’ll take that, Going in for Barton is one pill i will not swallow
T4M
Respect.
Your fair and unreserved apology attracts my absolute respect.
As United fans we feel every moment as if it were within us. Our emotional roller-coaster, with hard work climbing the hills, exhilarating runs that astound and fearful times where it can appear that we are going off the rails!
Fortunately for us, we support the greatest club, and have the very best manager.
In Sir Alex we trust!
MG – I don’t think Pogba’s mentally or Physically ready yet, he needs to bulk up and gain more muscle, Tunni’s on loan aint he? Cleverley and Gibbo will do a good job for us
T4M – You have concerns about our midfield that have been apparent for years now. But we still managed to win the league and reach 2 CL finals. Im not worried but more concerned with whether Anderson,gibbo or Cleverley can step up because they now have greater responsibility. Im confident that the likes of Rooney,Giggs, Carrick, Park, a returning fletcher and maybe even Jones will be a very good alternative.
Rooneys passing this USA tour has been scholes-esque, keep it up Wazza, Looks like its gonna be his and Nani’s year
Add some of that Joey “Kangaroo” Barton Flair into our midfield and we’ll win the lot.
Remember Reds: Believe !
New additions please Sir Alex
That was a statement on ManUtd.com but I thought it was a request!
Some drama queens on here, fucking hell. Oh my God! If we sign Barton lol.
I blame King Eric.
Willierednut
I agree we need a nasty cunt in midfield and u can’t get a nastier cunt than barton. That’s why we were getting done away from home last season we had no fight in the centre.
Yup drama queens alright. Got my favorite panties in a twist.
@Clint-IamYourPapii
he has the mentality,nothing wrong with it. His physique is good too. Fletcher is one of the skinniest in the team and its no problem. He offsets it with other parts of his game. Ando if we’re being honest is a tellytubby with dreads, i mean look at his ass. Its all well and good to bulk up but surely Ando’s size is taking it too far. And Gibbo don’e even get me started on Gibbo.
The selection was yesterday was a bit of really. Would have been nice to see wellbeck and Obertan included in the team that started the second half. The only regulars they played with were Carrick and Berbatov(The front six)
T4M – And you’re managing what team?
‘a nasty cunt’ so that’s what united looks for now? not talented players, all this bullish british way has won nothing, please give it up.
joey barton rumor makes the newcastle blog,think all this is pretty funny
http://www.nufcblog.com/2011/07/24/do-manchester-united-really-want-joey-barton/
funny obertan didn’t get a mention on here. i thought he looked good. Good composure on the ball, rarely gave it away looked toughened up. Was a bit slack in tracking back though,was beaten easily on an occasion and a glorious ball was floated in. shame he’s not as consistent as we’d like, his ball skills and control are top notch and beats a man using skill not pace. For a pacey player thats a very good thing to have in your locker. Nani should be doing more of the same, he’s got loads of skill but opts to beat his man using his pace most of the time.
Another thing popped into my head while watching the game yesterday. The opinion that we play too fast for Berbatov or that he slows our game down. In my opinion i think that’s incorrect. If anything i think the players aren’t quick enough when they play with him. Quick enough in the mind that is. Hell i’ll go as far as saying maybe its a good idea we’re not looking for any new skillful player in the CM. if we can’t play with a skillful forward what are the chances of completely fucking it up if a CM arrives. Me thinks the squad needs to evolve on its own- make the mistakes, find out the hard way. at least the squad will be better for it. All i want to see is the youngsters given a proper run out in the first team next season. We pay huge amounts for other teams talents, its about time we gave a chance to our young boys too
King Eric – Hello mate. Top post.
Before folk start panicking, we need to realise that Fergie is merely playing a clever game with his public dismissal of further signings. He does not want us to appear desperate to sign someone, giving the selling the club the opportunity to fuck us over and engineer a bidding war in order to jack up the price. He is also mindful of not pissing off a club who holds a players registration, something which Beetroot cunt Redknapp and Bitter cunt Mancini have no shame in doing. There is still plenty of time until the window shuts and we will only know then if we are not going make any further signings. So in the mean time, let’s just wait and see.
@slim, Speaking of Berbatov, this one is for us Berbarotica fans. I know exactly what you mean about Berbatov. All too often, I’ll see him produce a peach of a pass that slices through the opponent’s defense only for the targeted team-mate not to make the run it deserves.
I see a lot of similar issues for Obertan and Welbeck when it comes to breaking into the first team. There are just too many established players ahead of them. In Welbeck’s case, his versatility is enough to overcome this problem, and he can play anywhere up top from left, middle to right. So, he will find his uses. As for Obertan, first of all, he needs to display the same level of consistency throughout the season. Secondly, we are currently spoilt for choices out wide also, so it is difficult to see him getting a good look in this season. If he does establish himself as a great option, then we’re all the better for it.
Kings – Na mate, I think we’re done. As for panicking, not me. I can’t speak for anyone else. I think we have tried to work out a deal for Sneijder. I’ve heard a fee of 35 million being quoted by Inter. Recent rumors have suggested, Inter want adds on, on top of the fee. That’s taking the piss imo. Doesn’t mean we won’t bring anyone else in. I hope that’s the case, but I think our business is done. Another way to look at it, the boss must have faith in the players, currently in the squad. As you say though, still a bit to go, so you never know.
GoatinaUnitedShirt – owen is a player attitude wise has a whole lot of respect around the football world, former european player a sensational goalscorer at his best, attitude wise he is one of the most likeable guys you could ever meet.
Now compare this with barton, who’s on and off the field antics make him high risk no matter what the worth of his transfer, 3 million 50 million it does not matter it is high risk. We can name any incident with this guy, from kicking a guy in the head multiple times, to the time he put a cigar in some young players eye. He comes with way to many problems, you get a rooney who can be to stupid but when it comes to teammates and acting like a pro he is 100%
I realise some of you lads are not british i also realise some may have come from privileged/rich backgrounds.Speaking as someone coming from working class england,growing up violence was part of life.starts from nursey school all the way through school life,weekends whether watching utd or going out drinking,kicking off was something that happened and not thought off as unusual.
Joey Barton shouldn’t be condemned because of the cards he was dealt and were he was born,yeah he was a crazy fucker a few years ago but has paid for that,he should only be judged on whether he’s good enough to play for us.i personally think he’s as good at his position as anyone playing for england and if it wasn’t for his past would be a england regular.With one year left on his contract and newcastle seemingly not interested in paying him what he wants picking him up for less than 5mill would be good business.imo
It’s quite obvious that Sir soon to be a Lord A F. has decided this years tactics is to begin the campaign now that Scholes has retired, with an inferior midfield than last seasons.Surely that will convince every one there will be No more signings I think it does me,tic.
I think alot of you have got me wrong on this or my writing isnt as clear as it should be. Please remember however to read my comments twice and try and go into them with a different frame of mind each time. It helps.
Im not comparing Barton to Roy Keane. The idea is a fucking joke to say the least. Keane is head and shoulders BETTER than Barton in every aspect. BUT what was Roy Keane. He was a world class player, commanded a record breaking transfer fee and was alround the leader. BUT there isnt a new Roy Keane out there. Roy came from Cork and had a hard up bringing in a down trodden community. The youngsters born today and the last 20 years are pansies in comparison. I doubt Roy Keane had designer clothes, Nintendo games, mobile phone, i pad, i pods, i pants etc Modern man is gay, light weight and if you cant buy it and it hasnt got a name then they waste their time in front of the fucking computer. The Roy Keanes, Paul Scholes etc are DEAD. There will never be another, so forget it. Unless we pull one out from latin America or Africa we will never find him. Barton is the CLOSEST to that. He is the toughest enforcer out there. I realise we have Fletcher but he is ill. We dont know how he’ll come back and what the time table is. I REALISE Barton is a prize cunt BUT men today are cunts. The Roy Keanes and Paul Scholes relied on community spirit and the togetherness of family/clans. Modern man is cut throught over getting the best designer clobber and is just aiming to be the first amongst his friend to have a blonde girlfriend and a Porsche. What Im trying to say is people are Cunts, look at Rio when he tried to get a new contract, look at Roy after years and years with the money. Look at Rooney hes a cunt, we ridiculed Terry and Gerrard and then granted Rooney immunity just because he wears the red of Manchester. Giggs looks like hes a cunt to and he is arguably No1 in the history of Manchester United. So why is Barton different, because he caved in someones head on the training pitch, because he had a go and wasnt taking any shite, because he felt the need to show he was top dog by fucking up a periphial player to show the team if I can do that to one of our own, imagine what Id do to the enemy. In military terms there is something called milling and its a good man maker.
I also believe in the squad as a whole. I dont believe we need to replace Scholes neccessarily with a like for like player. One thats impossible but also through the years Fergie has changed direction, brought in players with certain attributes and that new players have to bring in something different to whatevers already here. Barton would be a good change from the stuff we have, he would COMPLEMENT our squad not BE our squad. Like Andersson, Fletcher, Young, Giggs, etc etc non are guaranteed every match, very few manage even two thirds. Not even Chico, not even Nani and these are world class players. We operate a squad and so you need to look for squad players. I mean not even Scholes played every game and hasnt for a good 5 years. We do not need to sign someone who will take ALL the matches and destroy the development of the youngssters coming through.
Hello to all shades of RED, the game in Chicago was awesome so many Man Utd fans. The Mexican base in Chicago missed Lil Pea, he has hit Icon status in Old Mexico.
What a team, what a club and the best Gaffer on the planet.
After 7-0 the travel the heat Man Utd looked a half step slow as a team at times.
Awesome to see the kids play, Rooney bought the house down with the Rio pass.
Rafa cements my man crush on the twins.
The fans the sun the fun!!!!!
GLORY GLORY MAN UTD !!! SAF SUN SCREEN !!!
SAF to be LAF !!
@ King Eric, Easy Mate, and Spot On.
@ Costas, thats all they quoted from Alex did he tweet or something? have to hear/see the interview in full, doesn’t necessarily mean nothings on the table. Cant trust Sky for shit with the window still open
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Fellas, I’ll say again, I couldn’t care less if we don’t sign anyone.
Messi is the worlds best in the final third with the ball at his foot. Ronaldo is the worlds best from goal to goal with both feet and in the air. Either way, both players underwhelmed when they first tried to break into first team football. Hernandez went seasons without scoring for his Club, and some of our lads have just gone through similar shit now, so If Alex says this is the year to go with what we’ve got, then lets keep it moving.
Nani was good enough for EPL when he first signed but he’s only just had his first proper season as a bonafide starter. If he went DW instead Alex would’ve probably signed him later for our first team like Tony. If a player like Javier doesn’t show consistency you don’t doubt him, you show patience.
When we talk about Ando, Gibbo and Cleverley, we should remember Cesc was first team before Fletch and he’s 3 years younger. Fletch was top of the class before that Arsenal tie, and the next season he was bonafide starting 11. One season of bad luck and people write him off. Hargo had so much bad luck he had no chance for two finals, and I rate him in form higher than Sneijder, so that tells me Alex knows what he’s doing.
Maybe if it panned out different we’d have another CL Cup, and Paul Scholes would probably have another Season in him. But we’re getting over these set backs now, and we’ve got more bodies in midfield than last season. Cleverly, Jones and Young all bring something new, Fletch will be back, and Ando and Gibbo have another year under the belt to break into our first team.
I’d love to see Nani given the 7 role in the middle behind Rooney. Stats show his interceptions, tackles and pass completion are all solid and getting better. Nani on the verge, all we’re really missing imo is a player who can win possession and knows how to use it. A few goals and assists every now and then would be nice. Alex has already produced that twice in Fletch and Hargo, so have a little more patience lads, all is clearly in hand.
Fletchanator to rise from the virus ashes. He will be back…..
CMer please LAF.
Barton’s having a tweet. he’d sign in a heart beat if we actually asked.
As for the FA, Alex is a Strategist, so even if theres fuck all change in the treatment we receive, at least we’re keeping the parasites at the same distance. Never mind the charges against United if Wayne Rooney passed the ball to Drogba to stop Liverpool winning the League. We would never hear the end of it. Good to see the manager on the front foot.
Stay Blessed RoM
and Rest in Peace to those who are and ain’t being reported in the news as well
A rested Rooney hitting his prime and it seems SAF has found where he will play.
Competition at all spots.
Rio & Vidic best CB pairing in the world.
The kids to get a shot, Kiko and Obehead looking bigger and stronger, hope their heads grow.
Giggs at CM ridding into a Red sunset.
19 Done 20 in the sights.
6 maybe 7 teams fighting for 4 CL spots.
GLORY GLORY BEPL!!!!!!
Does Obei look like Lou Gossits kid from outer space? That Denis Quade raised and now he plays for Man Utd.
@WHAT??
I think that comment was made Sir Alex after yesterday’s game, but I am not 100% sure. Lots of websites have picked up on it, so I guess he must have said it publicly somewhere.
Why isn’t anyone talking about norwood and petrucci ? Both outstanding players who you all seem to have forgotten, both ready to take the step up, throw in pogba an I don’t think we’ve got any problems at all. Oh yeah barton, my fukin arse!
@ king Eric
Unless we change our formation then our midfield is vulnerable. We won the champions league with Hargreaves in the team. What he brought was energy, football intelligence and a tactical awareness in game. Plus being schooled in the German way of doing things. Without him in Europe beating the likes of Barcelona are the team to beat. And United will need to develop a strategy that can neutralise their midfield whilst creating opportunities for our attack to hurt them or other teams.
I will be more than happy to see the likes of Pogba, Morrison and Cleverly step up and play a big role this season. But SAF needs to decide how he wants the midfield shape to be. Especially when we play teams who have a 433 formation.
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I see you have been questioned scolded and told to fuck off over your questioning over SAF soon to be LAF. As always RoM rules its own. Third time I saw him in person yesterday from a 30 yard distance, had the pleasure to shake his hand before. I have been around Presidents Sec. of States Senators Governors, movie stars as Big as Jack Nicholson. Before I meet SAF the 3 biggest personalities I had meet, Bill Clinton, Jack Nicholson and JFK Jr. were the 3 biggest, SAF trumped them all. I never meet Ali or Eastwood but SAF could beet up Godzilla.
@ Samuel
never gave any ‘bullshit’ about him being some superman. Just said for a very cheap price he would be great cover for Fletch, and like it or not, we do need that cover from an experienced player. Carrick is a great player but for me lacks the bite that I personally like to see in that position.
Fergie has got something up his sleeve I’m sure, we got some fantastic youth that need their chance this year but a bit more experience is essential to help out.
The women yesterday, 88 degrees and just as humid. Women wearing next to nothing drinking adult beverages jumping up and down singing songs and cheering for their team…… there was one Latina lady wowwww…. and this 20 year old Red Head with a tan…… in Bikini bottoms and a Lil Pea cut off tee……….ECT. ECT. BUZZZZ!
Congrats to Cadel Evans and team BMC for the Yellow Jersey.
Supper Congrats to Mark Cavendish, the Isle of Man, and HTC Highroad for the Green Jersey.
Tour de France, still an incredible event.
@Wayne 15.09
Spot on. I myself, have a checkered past. Doesn’t mean fuck all now. It’s in the past. Too many on the moral high ground today.
@Goat
No need to explain yourself mate. None of us, were comparing the great Roy Keane, to Barton. Not you, me or King Eric. You post something on here and people take it the wrong way. That’s their problem.
@wille
Too many on the moral high ground today.
that is most days dude.
@wayne 15:09 loved it.
Is it true that after a weird scientific experiment at carrington, half of darren fletcher got grafted to ando’s arse, and they’re still trying to reverse the proccess. Fair play to ando tho he’s still tryin to run around with that thing behind him!!
I haven’t read all the comments yet, but on the CM thing, I’ve always thought that SAF had a very short list of candidates and it would be one of them, or no-one. I could see him bringing the odd youngster in for “potential”, but for a “solution”, it would be one of a very select handful, or nothing. He was never going to pay top dollar for someone not on his list, just to make up numbers.
Despite what he says, I don’t believe the Sneijder thing is done and dusted. I’ll believe that when Sneijder signs for a different club, or the transfer window closes with him still at Inter. I am not saying the deal *will* be done. I’m just saying that no-one should expect this deal to be conducted in public. The public statements may be an accurate of what’s happening, or they may not. We have no way to know.
If we can’t get the A-list CM that so many of us want, no doubt the recriminations will start. Already there’s one poster here (mmbuh) freaking out about this. What the fuck? Do you not understand that these deals are complicated? They involve three separate parties having to reach agreement (which is always tough) over a whole host of issues. At a bare minimum, we have two managers/coaches two business executives (and almost certainly more) from each club, plus at least one lawyer and one abacus-twiddler on all three sides, an agent and the player. That’s 12 people right there who can directly influence the deal. On top of that, there’s possibly a player’s wife who might have her husband’s ear (and, depending on her own career, one or two of her own advisers), not to mention representatives of commercial sponsors for the clubs and player (in the case of Sneijder, the commercial sponsor is Nike for all three parties, but that might be different for other players).
But apparently, some fans think all it takes is a couple of phone calls and a check.
I meant to add … so if SAF can’t get one of the guys on his shortlist, then of course he’ll proceed with what he’s already got. And I’ll back him on that — I’d rather go ahead that way, than throw good money at players he’s not convinced are worth it. Does it leave us thin? Maybe. But on the other hand, it also presents a wonderful opportunity for the younger players to step up and stake their claim. I’m confident we can win Number 20 — it isn’t a shoo-in, but then, it never is. It’s the PL, not La fucking Liga. I’m still hoping we will do a deal before the window closes. Sneijder, de Rossi, Bastian The Beast — someone of that caliber (all very different players, of course, but all A-list midfielders). But if we can’t, then get over it and move on.
@StatesideAussie good to see you state side again. Hope the walk about back home was as good as I think is was for ya mate.
As always well said and agree with almost all your posts. Short List, check it once check it twice.
Buy Javi Martinez .
We can’t buy Javi Martinez. He has a parking ticket on his record.
Paul Scholes had a Police record. Reggatta de Blanc.
Goat and Wayne: I read your posts about Barton and I get what you’re saying but I still don’t think he’s right for us. Wayne raised the point about his upbringing, which was fair enough. The American travel writer PJ O’Rourke once said the only two countries he ever visited where public swearing, public fighting and public drunkenness were socially acceptable (if not actually required) were Ireland and Australia. (Of course, there are exceptions. Although I’m an Aussie, I am not a violent man myself — even if I do have a longing to punch that smug bastard Messi on the nose!)
Goat, I always enjoy your posts, and there’s some merit to what you say. But the reason I disagree with you about Barton (apart from his age — he’ll be 29 just after the new season kicks off) is simply that I think he has a discipline problem. I don’t care where you grow up, who you are, or how good you are — if you sign on to a club (especially our club) you must find a way to control yourself. And for fuck’s sake, you’re paid enough to do it. If a player can’t or won’t, then I’ve got no time for him.
Cheers Zibbie, though I’ll confess I didn’t get the bit about “short list”.
SAF has a few targets if he can not get them he will play with the team he has. He does not sign a player just to sign a player. I meant shortlist.
@stateside StatesideAussie says:
I meant to add … so if SAF can’t get one of the guys on his shortlist, then of course he’ll proceed with what he’s already got
I’m new to the keyboard and have dyslexia as well, a bit of a 500 lbs Gorilla on my back. All good in the Red hood.
Zibbie, was that it? lol. Not often that posters pick on each other for grammar. In English-English, “shortlist” is a one-word compound as either a noun (” a list of the most suitable candidates for an office, post, etc, from which the successful candidate will be selected”) or a transitive verb (“to place someone on such a list”), and both the Shorter Oxford and Chamber’s dictionaries support that. In the US, the term is less common, and is usually two words: Webster’s New World and the New Oxford American dictionaries both include the compound form but prefer “short list”. But in both versions of English, it would need to be two words in a phrase such as “I’ve always thought that SAF had a very short list of candidates” where “short” is a simple adjective for the noun “list”.
When I’m at work as a copy-editor, I follow US usage because my employer demands it. When I’m on here, I follow whatever the fuck I like.
Shouldn’t pick on each other for grampa either.
Unless you’re relatively unbearable.
smartalex … lol, Alex’s Theory of Unbearable Relativity.
I’m thinking of making a movie about a grammar pedant who foils a terrorist plot armed with nothing more than volume 4 of the Oxford English Dictionary and a copy of Fowler’s “The King’s English”, but who, despite his new-found fame, is forever unable to find happiness. It will be called The Unbearable Lightness of Being Right.
Fuck I hate the off-season.
The charge of the right brigade is like a red bull to a flagging bean counter.
smartalex … I can’t compete on puns, so I’ll resort to stealing other people’s quotes:
“The term, then, is obviously a relative one: my pedantry is your scholarship, his reasonable accuracy, her irreducible minimum of education and someone else’s ignorance.” (Fowler)
“This is the sort of pedantry up with which I will not put.” (Churchill)
LOL copy-editor’s worst night mare is Zibbie speek.
Maladaptive perfectionism casts a binding spell, yet wen dey rite lyk dis no thawt escapes.
There are excellent contributors with limited grammar, but none that are lazy.