Following United’s League Cup exit at the hands of Crystal Palace, Sir Alex Ferguson has apologised to the fans.
Despite the winning goal being scored from an offside position, the fans would have expected more from the players who started, even though they weren’t the first XI.
“I’m so disappointed,” said Ferguson. “I have to apologise to my fans and all the players who weren’t playing. We never expected that. Any time we go on the pitch it means a lot to Manchester United. We have our pride to protect and our history to protect. Every time we walk on the pitch it’s important. We didn’t see that tonight. Nine internationals out there. So that was a big disappointment.”
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the players have to
So much for all this young talent we have!
Shit!
I suggest you disturb the money mountain in January rather than apologise.
Dear Sir Alex
Apology NOT accepted, reason is you NEVER have to apologize to us or anyone else for that matter…
Cedars
red
Yes, that’s the spirit…… Deary me
Oh come on. No need to apologise. We’ve seen worse over the last 2 seasons! In turn some fans have to apologise for asking for his head or for the ridiculous abuse against some of our players.
apology accepted……just put out a stronger team next time please
Last night we just had a group of players out there…..no team. I would rather have seen a complete reserve team prepared and ready to go. They would have matched CP for enthusiasm and most importantly they would have been a team. The loss of the twins to injury was a big blow cos we had good attacking talent on the bench that couldn’t come on when we needed them. However…United stands…we move on.
First of all, no, don’t slate the team but we are the fans and we have the right to say that was shit, which it was.
I know that we shouldn’t be all doom and gloom but it was abject at times last night, but Fergie doesn’t have to apologise for nowt, 25 years of paradise make it so.
Gibson should be at Sun’lun anyway, he’d fit right in, what with the majestic way he concedes possession so cheaply.
We need to pull together but blind faith is not the answer. I don’t have a doubt this will get sorted but we’ve got the right to be upset.
Ravel looked decent when he came on though…
Too many very average players wear the shirt, buisness needs to be done, get some money spent in Jan and stop this madness… no leadership whatsoever last night, it was painful to watch.
BUT – no apology, its a bad patch in my opinion and other teams seem to be getting very carried away with Uniteds performances, they must be thick if they think for one minute we wont be challenging for the league, if not make it 20X !!! We just need that one performance to kick start our season again!
We’ll never die.
Dear Sir Alex,
We all have seen the miracles you are capable of. The current season is not our best, especially in the light of the blinding start we had. But I’d take you as our manager without a season or 2 of trophies over some pushover assembling a team of money hoggers who disrespect him in front of the fans and the world and he’s not able to do anything (are you listening you shitty assholes?)
Dear players,
please wear that badge like you mean it. And think if you can look SAF in the eye before putting on anything less than a UNITED worthy performance.
Thanks,
a humble fan
As much as I am dissapointed calling the young lads shit is way of the mark as the ones who were poor and have experience were Diouf, Macheda, The Twins, Valencia (although looked dangerous should be much better).
People having a go at the young crop should chil no they are not 1st team yet but that is what games like this are for. Fryers excellent, Morrison looked very promising, Pogba needs games as he is an imposing player so needs the experience.
SAF should apologise as it was his niaivity and under esttimation that lost us the game last night and nothing else.
Also I am not a Gibson fan but people slagging him off must have watched another game as he was the best player on the pitch.
giggs12gerrard0
Have to disagree mate, Sir Alex should NEVER apologize, the fact that he did goes to further prove what a great man he is
No ur fault fergie our players didnt deliver, but u should of got rid of gibson and evans when u had the chance cuz they are no good 4 man utd also if berbatov cant deliver again crystal palace he is not the striker we need.
I say get rid of berba, evans and gibson and macheda and bring in rodwell, G. Cahill, a good striker and Eriksen
But wat i saw from pogba and morrison looks good just give them more games
9 internationals against a Championship team that made 5 changes to their 1st team……………..so much for our talented squad!!!!!!……………..utter rubbish.
Tgan
‘Utter ribbish’ ? That would be you, fake cunt
I heard some moaning cunts saying, the fans there last night, should get a refund? Lol. Are we Arsenal fans now? Deary me. Maybe a lean spell would do this club a good turn. United fans have become too complacent. Let me rephrase that, a section of United fans.
No apology required. End of the day we were beaten. We move on & this is another step of the learning curve that these players have to accept.
Tgan…
do us a favor and get lost.
sir alex has nothing to apologize to us, he knows better than all of us put together. apology from a man who gave us footballing utopia and giddying orgasms of joy over the last 2 decades?? are you kidding me?
they were the better team on the day and they got the victory…fair play to them
we’ve had worse defeats before, leedscum for example. had these kids played brilliantly and played crystal palace off the work, the same guys who are abusing fergie wud be singing his praises. its a game, shit happens..
fergie dint see this coming, he’s not God, but bloody hell, he’s almost a God!
Complacent fans is right- I was on Football365 earlier and was close to skull-fucking my laptop at the drivel spouted by alleged fans. Prime Bells.
I like getting beat in a way, sorts the wheat from the fuckin’ knobeads.
Full credit to SAF for the apology, shameful from the players that he had to do that.
Huge differences between the fans as to who the culprits were.
I’m stunned that so much ridicule is being directed at the new crop of young players, they do not deserve that.
We had probably 4/5 players who were very poor last night. No matter who was in the team, if 4/5 players are poor, there is no way the others can carry them.
At a higher level in the Premiership or in Europe, just 1 or 2 under performing can make a huge difference.
Those slating Pogba / Morrision for example would do well to remember all footballers performances are a reflection of their confidence levels.
We, as fans, have a huge responsibility and bearing to that confidence or lack of it.
Despite our collective huge disappointment last night, how are we going to ensure we do whatever we can to help our beloved United?
Well, i’m pretty sure most of us know the answer.
Confidence and fear amongst footballers as well as fans is contagious.
Which of those should we help spread?
Morrison and Pogba are huge talents. Just because their introduction last night failed to bring the quantum leap forward we needed, does not suddenly mean they have been over hyped, are not good enough and so on.
As a club we have enough challenges going on regarding bigger prizes than that last night.
If we are to remain in the mix for them, i suggest we display our name in our attitude a little more.
Stay United.
Nice of him to do so, but I still dont get why we start with Amos, Gibson and Diouf, when they clearly are not in the future of Man Utd. Lindegaard, Morrison and Pogba should have startet instead, with some of our more experienced 1st team players on the bench!
By the way, was our fans quiet yesterday? Last matches I have seen on the telly (I live in Norway) I have only heard the away supporters singing (loud too)…my friends who support shitty teams like Spurs and Liverpool gives me stick every day now regarding our bad support.
we dont have a divine right to win. we’ve been spoiled silly over teh years thanks to fergie and what he has done for the club.
this isnt the first match we lost and sure as hell wont be the last. wots disappointing is the manner in which we looked disjointed and couldnt up the ante against an opposition who gave it their all.
we’ll get over it. lets have a reaction guys, lets go on a confident run and put this mickey mouse cup disaster behind us
Im starting to hate some utd fans…..weve got the greatest manager ever,a great team,some great young players coming through…won shit loads of trophies….yet all these so called die hards wanna do is moan and make scapegoats out of utd players ffs…its no wonder everyone else takes the piss out of us…..we dont have a divine right to win every game(thank fuck)……its a good job some of you pricks wernt around in the 70`s and 80`s when we were cheering on the likes of ashley grimes,dave mcreery etc….get a grip morons
@Clayton
Totally agree – the muppit reds come out when we lose.. start talking shit when in reality they know fuck all!!!!
Its obvious we need to strengthen the squad though – we need 2 key players, players that would drag us through a game like last nights, because i saw nothing on that pitch to indicate we had a chance to win it let alone take it to pens! And that is not UNITED.
SAF – just could not understand why he did not play the full core of the youth instead of “bits and pieces”
Poor “team coordination” but expected when they have played together.
Sad
UNITED 20//4/12
@keanoisdaman
I quite liked Ashley Grimes and McCreery!
Hey, us younger fans had to cheer on Djemba Djemba and Liam Miller.
Average players have been a part of our tradition. 
costas..
not to forget the likes of klebfoot and david bellion…
The Big Red & It’s in my blood
Greetings to the both of you, nice to see you both posting here
I’m wondering where King Eric might be …..(pregnant pause)
I don’t blame the premiership generation United fans. They’ve known nothing but success. So, when they see United struggling on the pitch, they’re probably wondering, what the fuck is going on! That’s not in the script mentality. I’m pontificating here. Just giving an honest opinion. United have suffered worse times. Even under Fergie. His early years weren’t exactly laden with Gold. It will get better. IMO, United will still challenge for the title. And qualify for the knockout stages in Europe. Chin up people.
Greetings Cedars….
im actually a bit uneasy about the fact that Pool has been playing decently and have a shot at getting to the final and god forbid, winning it.
Not scared, just a dirty taste, the kinds u get when u have flat, warm beer and stale pizza
Willie
In my opinion its not a clash of generations as it were, but a difference between being positive and negative, a difference between being a proper supporter and a plastic one
*not*
Cedars – Not my point mate. I’m saying, the last 20 years has seen United dominate. I don’t mind some United fans being negative. IMO, it’s whatever works for the individual. I wouldn’t tell anyone how to support United. I will, as always, give my opinion on it.
It is not that we deserve an apology from Sir Alex, it is that those players milling at the exit now are forever more responsible for making him apologise. Sir Alex has once again drawn much of the poison away from the players, and given them a vital need to remedy the shame, or slip away into relative obscurity.
He is a master of these situations. Awe should overpower all who survey his stewardship..
No need to apologise, this man kneels to no one.
As for some players here, they need to improve. Simple as that.
Every support, needs that yin and yang. Brings balance to the force.
Willie
Fair enough, I agree……. But Tgan? I mean for fucks sake
The Big Red
The Pool wining what exactly buddy? The Carling Cup? Rather them than the bitters
Cedars – Wum? Never been convinced he’s a United fan mate. Easy to spot those so called fans. The way I see it on here, is KE, MG, yourself and Balaji keep the spirits up. Then you have slim, Costas who present a differing view. That’s healthy on a blog, such as this. Me and smartalex in the middle, reciting the wire, you’ve got the lot!
Hey Cedars, thanks.
Gosh, what a sitation eh?
It looks like either the Scousers or the lemon eaters are going to lift that trophy.
Preference?
Can’t bring myself to say either name.
Lets just hope it’s one of those seasons a “lesser” team wins it.
Unlikely i know but the alternative is just too gut wrenching!
I’m going to throw up now.
You and smartalex in the middle? Mmmm sounds kinky! hahahaha Me likes
Cedars,id rather prefer Palace winning it. Dont wanna see Pool get their hands on any trophy simply cos they will have a wank fest abt making it to 19. Hate the bitters as well…..
The Great man apologized. The players let him down and to an extent his apology may be to protect the young guns.
We should learn from Sir Alex, to know one’s own fault is a great attribute.
We have too many average squad players if sir alex needs to apologise for anything its being too loyal to some of them muppets how constantly they let him and us down he doesn’t send them out to play bad and he gives them chance after chance but they never do the shirt justice. And what is the story with them twins constantly going off injured!!! Are they made of fucking glass or what. Maybe the stats man costas can shed some light on how many game they have actually played in a row? It can’t be more than 3. Rant over but sir alex shouldn’t have to apologise for the muppets on display last night.
It’s in my blood
Hi, my preference would of course be either Cardiff or Palace however if I had a gun to my head and had to choose between the bin dippers and the bitters I would go for Liverpool
I see the dippers beating city. Liverpool, Cardiff final. The latter winning 2 1. YHIHF
I’m just a humble motherfucker with a big-ass dick.
Okay then. I ain’t that humble.
“If it’s a lie, then we fight on the lie, but we gotta fight”
Slim Charles
I never slate players as people will know but I was pretty fucking disgusted with last night. No leaders. No bollockings. Diouf brings fuck all to the table and kiko needs to go on loan or do summat. It was a horror show. Shit deep crosses to the back stick, slack defending, sloppy passing. Whats wrong with beating a man on the bye line and putting a cross low across face of goal for a tap in? The senior players should have grabbed that game but didnt. It turned to shit. Park at fucking full back, Pogba at centre half. The fucking twins injured again. Funnily enough for all the stick Gibbo got I think he did ok. Nowt wrong with him last night. Some of those lads need to have a good hard think and buck the fuck up. They are representing Manchester United.
Anyway as I say never slate players but cannot help it. Regards Pogba as I have said he isnt ready for the first team yet. The one player that should be playing is Tunnicliffe. At least he puts a fucking foot in and bollocks players. Get him back Fergie!! All in good time. Think last night has given Fergie food for thought and some of those may struggle to play again.
Anyway lets hope our first team regain their early season form. Will still win the league I reckon but I actually like the Carling Cup. Gutted.
Fergie doesn’t have to apologise to anyone. That team he put out last night should have been good enough.
Sir Alex doesn’t have to apologize, even though I think we should’ve had a better team out there this time.. Some of the players were just woeful.. showing no spirit or pride in wearing red.. Diouf was just frustrating, let alone Berba not even getting a clear chance at goal for 45 bloody minutes! And Macheda was just way off par, I understand he’s still young and needs some experience but gods sake 2 years ago he was twice as good as he is now.. I think almost half the players that were out there yesterday need to go. Gibson is nowhere near United quality and despite him putting a medicore performance last night, he’s still not good enough for us. Evans as well, I’ve seen enough of his horrible mistakes, and letting Murray shrug him off so easily last night for that 2nd goal is just surprising. All I see in him, is being another Brown. No offense, I really do respect Brown, but he always had that one mistake in him and I see that in Evans as well, and I hope we get rid of him faster than we did of Brown. Anyways, what do I know, in SAF we believe!
@ its in my blood…..so did i mate,good honest pro`s who gave their all in every game thay played in,but thats not enough for some of the pricks we have supportin utd these days….every player has to be a world beater…
Ferguson have been trying to fool us with talks of non value in the market reality is for the last couple of years he is been buying average players and promoting mediocre ones now the squad is full of them. When I look at barca or madrid I see teams who are striving for excellence and perfection when I look at us I see a team with one or two genuine world class players surrounded with 7 or 8 shit ones.
An apology from SAF is totally uncalled for.
Yesterday’s performance was truly dire. However, it is curious to observe the responses of some fans on here. I see some of the crap they spew out and I can’t help but wonder: what the fuck is going to happen when Sir Alex steps aside and a new guy takes over? I shudder to think. Because if we can’t stand by the team and the club in times like this, what’s going to happen when there’s a completely new sherrif in town?
I’d like to see Sir Alex push the youngsters like Morrison and Pogba through a bit more. Hurry the “transition” along a bit. Partly because I think we have nothing to lose, but also (to be blunt about it) because it’s time to start sorting the wheat from the chaff, to find out who’s got the “right stuff” and who doesn’t. I don’t want to “do an Arsenal” and throw out a young team that will be overwhelmed, but I would like to see players like Morrison and Pogba get more time off the bench, and a few starts.
I was reasonably impressed with Diouf earlier in the season but he was pants yesterday. Sadly, Kiko wasn’t much better. Kiko still has the benefit of being very young. Diouf, though, will be 24 before Christmas. I thought Gibson was pretty good yesterday. I am not convinced he will ever be much more than a journeyman player for us, but so what? A squad like ours needs some players of that ilk, and I can’t help but wonder how much the departure of JOS has hurt us.
Willie
Your a true mate – I’d never put you in the middle of anything – your equal/better than me and I’m privileged to be a part of all this – none of us can’t do it without one another – it’s a shame when others cannot see it – we only try to keep the ROM going like SAF would keep United going – I wonder who has the tougher job at times
We’ll keep it Red and keep it going – we’ve had to live with much worse and will continue to do so
But even such times won’t stop us.
It isn’t brilliant at the moment but it will be again
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I think the utd boss will always sorry 4 the player mistake Anyone Agree or disagree I think Berb have a good half very mad that berb was not playing all of the match I think Berb will be gone in the January Trafers and buy brillint player anyone agree or disagree
Agree or disagree? I am all over the place here
SAF shouldnt have to apologize. the team he put out should have been good enough to beat CP (on paper). its unfortunate that the players that did play were either short of match practice and a couple of them not good enough IMHO.
I don’t care about the loss.
For a team that never played like that, the second half was good. Nothing more.
We conceded a wondergoal and an offside goal.
shit happens.
I don’t care.
I’m more dissapointed with some players who should see that as a chance to get into the first team.
Diouf and Macheda have been dreadful.
Yes and regarding SAF apology he apologises to no one but Mrs Ferguson
His players should have come out and apologised for their inept display
Granted the gaffer doesn’t get it right all the time but hell he has single handedly made Manchester United the team that it is today and he answers to no one but himself.
I for one will not accept his apology – in fact I am angry that he apologised – though the mind games have begun by doing so for other reasons.
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MG
I think, in fact I know I love you
Word from Nick Coppack today was that it’s too early to tell what’s the status of Berbatov and the twins. Fergie will have an update tomorrow.
People saying SAF doesnt need to apolgise is ridiculous, the whole reason he is so great is because of his humility. SAF is fom Govern and understands what it means to be a sa working class fan looking forward to that thrill of football and the tribilism it brings.
I would expect some cunt like Mourinhio not to apologise but this is why I love SAF so i am glad he did and I fully accpet it as a paying fan.
SAF is full of class and it doenst make fans shit supporters because we dont accept bollox like that last night and if you do then you should have a look at yourself.
I dont expect us to win every game and I actually enjoy times of challengers but we would be shit fans if we just come on here and be like lemmings.
This is Msnchester United football club and the greteast manager ever lived has apologised for a horror show so lets appreciate that understand what that actually means. It hurts SAF like it does us.
Cedars
It’s in the air Cedars that love
giggs12gerrard0
Get this my good friend, its not about apologizing, the mere fact that he did echoes even further his greatness….. In my opinion he should NEVER have to….. Hope you get where I am coming from pal
giggs12gerrard0
Mate that is a perfect response – it’s just the way it’s delivered
Same boat we are all on
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Just like the team we are all different here
We are entitled to our opinions and why not after all doesn’t that make us better as individuals for the cause?
Sometimes it goes out of hand even yesterday when non ROM bloggers come up and start the gloom
It happens every single year yet some of us are still here…
Anyways time to go and work had a bad night was bloody sick all night and at a loss why
19 Red Devils
@Cedars
I do mate and that is my point that it does further echo his greatness, that said the god like ideology is what wll long live with SAF when he is no longer (God forbid that day) our manager. For now he is our football manager and a man that transformed us from bottom up and he himself would not expect us to allow shite like that last night.
That siad i wont over kill the poiint, the game is done and huge lessons will be learnt and the fact he had to apologise for one of his teams will make his blood boil and under perfomrers will be told what is required to make it at Manchester United.
That said mate i definately get why he should never apologise as he is Manchester United but it is him himself that would always apologise and I wouldnt expect anything else. I am glad he did it was pathetic it last night and he will stand by his convitions.
@MG
Correct mate i never came on yesterday as I knew it would be completelty irrational. I will say one thing as I did to some cunt in K stand at the city game never call SAF. Crticise if you wish which i dont at the game I use ROM to vent my frustration. Anyone who calls for SAFs head is a grade A cunt in my book.
I’m fucking embarrassed, not by the result. No sir. The fact that Fergie has apologised for the result. No need to do that whatsoever. We make a choice to follow our team in whatever way that may be, whether by attending the match or getting up at a time when the hookers are coming home. If we don’t get the result we desire we have a right to be disappointed and even angry but to take solace from an apology from a knight that took us from 7 titles to 19 is ridiculous.
Out of interest anybody who attended the game last night what was the atmosphere like? Were Palace as loud as they came across on TV? If so the fans demanding a refund can do one.
giggs12gerrard0
I hear you pal, trust me, no one will ever be more hurt after a bad performance or a defeat than the great man himself…….. Just pains me to see him say those words. Over the years he has blindingly protected the club and players, I am sure at times stamping on his own pride in the process…..
Morning Reds didn’t see the game i have it taped,read alot of the comments.Made a point yesterday about modern football being about show me the money rather than playing for the badge,love of the game,etc.In my day could get a seat for a quid a game and footballers although making good money not obscene like today.
So with the lack of loyalty from players towards the club and fans,rising ticket prices,most people struggling to keep their head above water i can understand how more is expected and how the attachment between players/fans is becoming greater.
Greedy and shallow players breed demanding and superficial fans,i’m becoming more and more disillusioned with the modern game,if there’s no loyalty left on either side what is one left with.
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Wayne – FFP? If Uefa/Fifa enforce it, of course. I’ve long been a advocate of wage cap. The top players imo, don’t need to be earning more than 100k a week. they get outside sponsorship deals, from various company’s. It’s pure greed. If the top clubs in Europe come together and make a stand on this, they could accomplish something. The UK is heading for a double dip recession. What footballers earn, is disproportionate to the ordinary fan. This might be pie in the sky, but something has to give. Football is in danger, of losing it’s identity. Look at the England ruby team? Arguing over money? The greed is spreading to other sports.
@NRD
I was there mate and I am a very focal fan. i love to sing and espcially love away games. Last night the atmosphere was as poor as you will witness and yes palace were good value they were loud from the off.
@Cedars
I get you mate and I think we are reading to much into him apologising. The team were shite he picked it and the book always stops with the manager regardless. I am genuinely glad he did apologise as when I turned up to the ground and saw Macheda and Diouf playing i felt like just fucking off home.
@Wayne
Mate why would players born outside of Manchester or not fans of manchester play for the badge? I can imagine this morning that Morrison will be gutted, fryers will be gutted, Macheda wont give a flying fuck as he is about himself more than the club.
We have to accept that in this day in age the only people who are loyal are fans! I add into fans Giggs, Scholes, SAF, Neville etc.
And we want to say “THANK YOU” your are great Sir Alex Ferguson!
@ giggs12gerrard0 – Cheers mate. Don’t like having a go at the fans about the atmosphere because being in the ground myself in the past Iknow that sometimes the TV doesn’t do it justice. No mics in Tier 3 or Tier 2 or the quadrants. Only caught the first half and couldn’t hear us at all. We need to get a campaign going to get OT rocking like we did vs chelski last season. Noise like that will only boost young players confidence, if its a morgue heads will drop.
@giggs 12 hi mate,back when just more of a sense of loyalty,fans became attached to players who would stay at a club for years,true heros.Now a 5 yr contract becomes a 3 yr contract,fans can’t trust players anymore,i was totally sucked in by Rooney thought he was a throw back then you find out it’s all a act.Utd have always had players who were proud of playing for Utd,not saying anyone should mate,just pointing out the difference of how the modern game as Willie pointed out is losing it’s identity,talksport did a poll i think it was 76% of fans would rather watch the game in the pub,that is a problem
@Wayne
Completely agree with everything you have said mate!
Willie yes mate when a player in a month can earn what it takes the ave person 20yrs to make,something seriously fucking wrong
u has happened to United………..ppl want to get rid of Berba , Evans & Gibbo ( best player agnst Crystal )
want Cahill n Rodwell instead………..
why not Adam , Carrol ,Torres ,
add few more names …….some more shitty name………………..
the only player who seems not gud enuf to play for United now is PIG………..n he is miles away from the 1st team
Can’t fucking wait for January. Many here suggested that we should buy a spanish flair, but I think what we need the most is a beast especially at midfield left back. I hope we get Giorgio Chiellini. I think we need to have someone like Lee Cattermole, someone who gets on oppositiions’ nerves.
The lads had a shocker but its a learning curve. Sometimes the nerves due to expectation can be overwhelming. as SAF said. Lets not take anything away from CP. Offside goal or not, they played their guts out , if we had watched that performance bversus any other top flight club we would have applauded them.
we do not need an apology, Just get us back to winning form.
Stuff your “apology” I am fed up with having to fork out an extra £38 each home cup game on top of my very expensive season ticket to watch that dross!!! It’s pathetic how a team that contained 8/9 internationals. Could not beat a below average championship side!!! Every team this year had worked so much harder an chasing the ball, actually wanting to play football an throw some tackled about. Utd…. Not interested, from the very top to the very bottom. An They are all very happy to take home there mega wages an I have to go back to a grafting job, just to waste my money watching, Darren Gibson, jonny Evans, Valencia, diouf, macheda. What an embarrassment. Gibson should never wear red again. Fuck off to hull, or any other team that wants you….. A very very VERY UNHAPPY stretford ender.
big red 12:15 well said. Iwould love to see how many of the detractors could take the pressure SAF has for a quarter of a century. Lets not forget hes the best in the world right now and would have had no problem fucking off to another club years ago. Why no rumours over the years?. Because he is totally comitted to and loves united.
Well said WilleRednut @ 12:09.
Whether we see a topic negatively or positively, outside of that theres an element of United support that expects guaranteed victory. Not only that, they also expect flawless football, so however we win, or whoever we win it with, our Club is never good enough for those fans. Does my fucking head right in. But like ClaytonBlackmoresTan said its times like these the plastic fans do us all a favour and show themselves. Whether the glass is half full or half empty is a valid debate, its the complacent expectation that pisses me off/makes me laugh mate.
^only imo of course
As for Sir Alex. his apology is on behalf of the Club in expectation of the headlines. He’s just doing his job, and not putting himself first like some other managers we could name. It really was a shocking defeat regardless of team selection, and any half decent club of any size would apologise for that. In our case, the manager also apologised to the fit players he mistakenly chose to rest. He’s not one for shirking responsibility.
Cattermole? Chilleni who is a centre back? Err no ta.
cedarsdevil- any three to win it but not the bitters fucking piss me off . Boasting when all they have is a tin cup and anything they win will not be built on tradition, sweat , determination and bloody hard work. Just unlimited money. its a discrace regardless of the club recieving such funding.
redbilly
Agreed!
giggs12gerrard0
I get where you’re coming from mate, no worries…… Cheers pal
Even ..the scouse who we always want to lose are worthy of a win over shite. At least they have a history includung. success and domination. And the next shite fan who boasts about ‘the project’ , well, fuck off!
Okay, was annoyed at the exit. ah but really apology? (i’d rather get the apology for a certain drubbing we got a month ago) and anyway, Sir Alex should NEVER apologize. its the players so yeah. Anyw, let’s get on with life.
Hands up if you realize that EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. the commentators have considerately reminded us of the drubbing. in all competitions. and the joke during the league cup game, the commentator talked about it then stopped cos he switched to the goal action taking place, AND THEN HE CONTINUED reminding us about that game. Fantastic. Applaudable ABUism. Sorry for so many caps.
and THE BLUE MOON CONTINUES TO RISE?!
you know it’s so difficult to pop my eyes back after rolling them so hard every week.
We should wrap Morrison in gold. On the evidence of a poor team performance he shone through.
Wonderful skill and always wanted the ball in difficult positions.
Last night we lacked leadership on the park, wonderful goal out of the blue and poor defending for second.
A tad complacent
But worth the price of a ticket to see Morrison…”i might of found a genius” Bob Bishop RIP
I’m not meaning to be funny but Park a great servant as he is, he sometimes has trouble with his first touch from a simple pass. He often slows the play down and that’s not what we need. He and others are not good enough, they are squad players at best.
The other problem is not just the mdfield. The midfield has taken a big hit, but who the hell is making runs and creating space up front? nobody other than Morrison last night. Federico isn’t good enough, loan him out and see how he does. Why platy Diouf?? crap. Sorry but i was a better striker than him and my first touch on my weaker foot was better than Parks stronger foot.
The whole team is turgid and not fluid and i blame SAf. He changes it far too much and no one can get into a grove with the other players around him. It’s worth keeping a settled team for Europe and The League and rotate in small european games and other cups. We lack enough players who are threatening and creative. Who do we have Rooney, Nani and Cleverly and that’s about it. We need threats from all over. Valencia does a job but is always going outside the left back, Young needs to step up and Carrick isn’t that type of player. Anderson doesn’t have it mentally and The little pea is a goal hanger with poor link up play. We need greater improvement from our existing players or at least 2 high quality players to add some edge to our play. How many times did we test their keeper in 120mins? about a handful, if we’re being generous.
I probably will not add anything that has not already been said about last night’s abject display. My heart dropped when I saw that Gibson was in the team. He’s not match fit and NEVER will be a midfielder of the quality that UTD need. He should be sold as soon as possible!
So why didnt we give more game to Pogba and Morrison last night? At least they brought some energy to the midfield and yes they are not the finished article but I would rather take the risk of having them on the pitch rather than playing safe by selecting Gibson and Park (and that didnt work anyway as we lost the game!)
See link suggesting that Shitty are sniffing round as Pogba is stalling on a new deal – not surprising as he hasnt been given the football opportunities that he might have had at another club.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-lie-in-wait-as-paul-pogba-stalls-on-new-united-deal-6269696.html
Talking to other fans last night the overwhelming view is that we have the worst midfield of any of the top 6 clubs. I laughed at the suggestion that we were looking at Charlie Adam during the summer but he would walk into our first team now. We have to sign a top quality midfielder in the January window and it really doesnt matter if he is CL cup tied because we are not going to win the CL anyway. But what he might do is ensure we win our 20th PL title and prevent Shitty winning it.
Diouf and Macheda (who is still living off the goal against Villa!) will never have the skills to be top class strikers and should also be sold at the earliest opportunity.
I am glad SAF apologised to the fans and in my view the players should donate their weeks salary to charity as a recognition of how much they let the fans down last night!
We’re 5 points off the top of the league and I expect us to be through to the champions league knock out stages this time next week, after giving us all the obligitory few heart attacks of course. Plus we still have the f.a. cup to look forward to. It’s being a disappointing few weeks but sometimes I think some fans forget what the bad times were really like. That’s not to say I don’t think we need a couple of world class midfielders, I do. We’re all entitled to disagree with the boss, opinions are the very nature of supporting a club, but one thing Sir Alex doesn’t have to do is apologise to me. Let’s not forget we’re getting some dodgy decisions as of late. Not complaining about them really cause we’ll get them our way on another day. We actually played quite well against Benfica and Newcastle but it’s just the way it’s going for us at the moment. Very disappointed over last night but that’s as far as it goes for me.
Sir Alex is a genius, end of story.
Could be that some fans remember only too clearly the bad times and have no wish to return there.Could be they have better eyesight than a lot of us and maybe see a possible return.Not saying that’s the case but could be.
The Boss apologized because he picked the wrong team..why Evans, and why captain?. As a lifelong United fan growing up in Manchester watching the Busby Babes, I would rather thank him for all the great victories we’ve had over the last few years. However, I’m beginning to believe he is under a lot of pressure from the Glaziers not to spend to compete with the likes of City. If that is true, we won’t attract big players or win major trophies…time will tell; but I still wouldn’t go to Eastlands if you gave me a free ticket!
Mancunian in L.A.
We are 5 points behind a team that has an open cheque book, a team that has speant millions in three seasons. Not even Abramavic can outspend Monsour. Take Monsour out of it and Utd are Top, Crisis? What Crisis I don’t see one.
Ya whatever, just Fuck Off
Fergie didn’t really have to apologise for the result, but he probably felt so awful after watching such a display of performance – he thought it right to apologise, which I hope will give a kick up the arse for some of the low performers. I’m sure the hairdryer will be out in the week.
Hope this can galvanize the team to perform better.
I’m with everyone else, SAF doesn’t have to apologise for anything, especially a bad game. I just wish he was ageless or had a younger clone. We’re going to miss him chewing his gum one day, it will be one of the sadest days our club will see when he leaves. Long may he continue.
SAF, you really do not have to apologise for anything. During your time at OT you have brought us untold glory, trophies, magical moments and some world beating teams. However, my old friend, every dog has its day and i am afraid you have had yours. Now just do the honourable thing and retire before you turn this club into a laughing stock. The writing is on the wall already with some of your bizarre team selections and player purchases. e.g. £20 mill for De Gea ? Who on earth sanctioned that purchase? He is just one of many flops you are bringing to OT, not only that you seem to be losing the knack of managing the decent players we have. Sorry my ole mate, but sometimes the truth hurts. I for one do not want to see our noisy neighbours wiping the floor with us and picking up all the trophies whilst we can only stand and watch. Do you remember saying that City would win the Premiership “not in my lifetime”? Dont make it a self fullfilling prophesy! Your work at OT is done Sir. Thank you and Goodbye.
I expect people will slay me for what I’m gonna say, but I just think SAF are chopping and Changing too much. We’re into a critical period but we’re still don’t have a constant, stable and strongest starting 11. Each game there’ll be changes. I just think that we need stability, we need a sort of understanding in our starting 11.
Oh Middy! I wouldn’t know where to start with your post mate. So bad, and inconsistent, it could quite possibly be up for the worst post of the year award. I would enter the debate, if United were mid table, or bottom half. But we’re in second place! If we don’t qualify for knockout stages of the champions league, questions will be asked. As they should. I think we’ll get through. Then it depends on the draw. 5 points behind a City team, that have been blowing everyone away, isn’t the end of the world. But for a ridiculous decision last Saturday, we’d be within 3 points. One fucking win! As it is, we’re 5 back. I know it’s tough seeing city playing good football. It will be hard watching them win leagues. It was always gonna happen, though. They’re spending big money on transfer fees, but also on wages. We can’t be in denial anymore, about City’s threat. Think of this though? It could’ve been the dippers? Perish the thought, eh? IMO, Sir Alex has paid his dues. He’s earned the right, to walk away from United on his terms. I won’t enforce my opinion on anyone else. It does sadden me though, that some United fans don’t feel the same way. Each to their own, I guess.
MuddyRed – You dirty bastard! Sneaking around RoM, pretending to support United so that you can launch sneaky attacks on our boss. You should focus on your own Klan, King Kenny needs you.
Just read that City are in for Pogba if he can’t agree a new contract. Would be gutted to see that happen. The boy has looked awesome for the reserves but a little shakey on the couple of occasions he has make the step up to the first team. A few games against the lesser lights of the premier league should give him his feet. He has great potential
Any thoughts on his liklihood of him making the dreaded move? If it is first team action he wants City isn’t the place for him. He would be sitting in the stands counting his petrodollars with Hargreves and Nasri (who should have listened to Evra and been a key player for the Champions) – a terrible career move but too many players only seem interested in money these days.
P.s. lets play Morrison until Ando and Cleverly are back – the creative spark we are crying out for!
Middyred is a fucking cunt and always has been. Fuck off you ungrateful bastard. Wum.
I read shit like muddy red’s post and then I wonder: if that’s how some cunts react to a manager who for 25 years has scaled unimaginable heights and brought this club more success and glory than anyone could ever have dreamed possible, then what the fuck chance does his successor have? Fuck me rotten. What a fucking scumbag.
That post from the dickhead at 23.07 is appauling. We would be top dogs by a country mile if it wasn`t for the billions from the middle east. I want to see how this challenge plays out, rather than metaphorically handing the title to someone else.
There is no doubt we need to sort out the centre midfield problem. We are weaker there, we lost Scholes to retirement and whilst he is irreplaceable we didn`t bring another body in to fill the gap. I`d stick Jones in there whilst Morrison and Tunnicliffe develop. Once they do stick Jones back at centre half. Pretty much how we brought Fletcher through as a right winger then moved him into the centre.
The manager is bringing through HOME GROWN players who live/grew up around the Manchester area. In this modern age, thats genius. How many clubs in the world let alone England do this? Especially with the restrictions put in place in regards to young players (in that its easy to get a player from France as in Pogba but not London). Players such as these play for the shirt.
I despise the vermin, and up until dogleash said Evra shold be punished if nothing is proven against Suarez had respect for him as a manger. However why do you think he`s trying to bring scousers through the youth system? Once again I reiterate, these types of players give you that little bit extra that can`t be taught, can`t be paid for.
I do believe there is a restriction of trade put in place by our owners. However I still prefer the policy our manager is using. Bring through the youth then add the finishing touches with a signing or two. Last season was somewhat of a false dawn, but since it was 19 we all (rightfully) ignored that and enjoyed it. It was an achievment that was beyond every Uniteds fan wildest imagination only possible on Championship Manager. Fergie made that a reality.
We are in transition, however we are in better shape this period than from summer 03-06. In 2 years a lot of people who have made asinine comments during this time are going to feel like a right pack of cunts.
NRD … ” In 2 years a lot of people who have made asinine comments during this time are going to feel like a right pack of cunts.”
Spot on. Some cunts need their heads looking at. They apparently think that when Paul Scholes retires, there should another little Paul Scholes waiting to fall off the assembly line, all glossy and brand new, still shrink-wrapped in plastic inside the original box with a lifetime warranty (Parts and Labor). And if there isn’t, why then we should jump in the Range Rover and head down to the local Tesco’s and, well, just buy one, right off the shelf, complete with a Customer Satisfaction Guarantee (or Your Money Back, no questions asked). Hey, if we’re lucky, they’ll have a Buy One Get One Free offer, or BOGOF, which is not quite right, cause what these cunts should do is fuck off.
This is an exciting time to be a United fan. We are witnessing the birth of a new team. It will be a roller-coaster ride, full of thrills and spills. It will test our faith, and some have already been found wanting, but those with true belief in their hearts will reap the rewards!
@ stateside
“This is an exciting time to be a United fan. We are witnessing the birth of a new team. It will be a roller-coaster ride, full of thrills and spills. It will test our faith, and some have already been found wanting, but those with true belief in their hearts will reap the rewards!”
well said buddy, well said
There was no need for SAF to apologize. Some might say that his apology shows his class but I still feel that his apology was unnecessary. I have seen performances far worse than last night. As far as I’m concerned SAF can field a bunch of monkeys for the next match and I will still support him. He can do what he wants with the team because he has earned the right to do so. Manchester United would not be where it is today if it weren’t for Sir Alex Ferguson. Call me blind or whatever you want but that is how much I trust the great man.
@Stateside.. “This is an exciting time to be a United fan. We are witnessing the birth of a new team. It will be a roller-coaster ride, full of thrills and spills. It will test our faith, and some have already been found wanting, but those with true belief in their hearts will reap the rewards!”.. Well said Sir. Its a pleasure to read your posts. Please keep them coming.
This is an exciting time to be a StatesideAussie fan. We are witnessing the birth of a new Hemmingway. It will be a roller-coaster ride, full of thrills and spills. It will test our faith, and some have already been found wanting, but those with true belief in their hearts will reap the rewards!
Damn the kangaroo court for jumping to conclusions! We believe in StatesideAussie!
Muddyred shows how fickle today’s fans are.
can’t see a crisis anywhere. we’ve lost two games this season. fuckwits. we still have a better chance of upstaging city than most. let clev come back from injury then decide
Performance like those will not win you hearts, but as a supporter you stand behind your team. Every man has his good times and bad times, why can’t a team?
Besides we don’t have a god given right to win everything. Our success is down to Sir Alex. Spare him those criticisms please. Be a better supporter, a better man.
Can’t tell u when but soon Manchester United will once again rule club football. But for now all the glory hunters should go and support some oil money club. There are a few out there.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Nov/paul-scholes-discusses-united-reserve-starlets-including-lingard-cole-thorpe-fryers.aspx
@NotoriousRedDevil
You make a good point. Sir Alex is a genius in his far thinking.
We talk about lost loyalty in modern football and I believe that too many foreign players in a squad can be a problem. Sir Alex himself will attract players not just the name Manchester United. When the gaffer changes, players might be reluctant to sign. So in this sense the home grown and youth players are important.
What we are seeing or ignoring is in fact a genius with his one final genius move. We have a lot of talents coming through. Not all will make it, sometimes ones we least expected may make it. But these are the players who will form the backbone of our team in the future.
Pity I missed out on the fun….sigh….. But I see that cunt was well and truly put in his place, what a scum bag
we need roy keane to put fear of God into united players his snarl would double performance.
vida killer on pitch, sweetie off it, he needs to have a word in an ally
SAF doesnt have to apologies some of our players do, they all train together, it’s not like they have no idea of how the other person plays, some players are just really not United std – Gibson, Berbatov…
On the plus side, some clearly are, Ravel Morrison
Stateside & NRD – Top posts lads.
It’s only tests your faith, if you’re a fickle cunt. I know one thing though, I won’t stand idly by and let the dregs on this blog attack our manager. Blaming Fergie for letting city win trophies? Stupid comment. If he goes, do you really think the next guy will make City’s billions disappear? Stupid people. We’ll see when Fergie does retire, and a few lean years ensues, that will separate the good time fans, from the see through one.
*good fans*
Damn typos!
Yeh pack your bags Sir Alex and do one.The Old man has finally cracked. Svens Free.
Middyred
Seriously are you just trying to wind someone up? Had it not occured to you that Sir Alex might have picked that team because of our Champions league situation? He knew palace would be Physical and to risk Rooney, Carrick, Fletcher, Nani or any 1st teamer for that matter when we have a European away tie against a team who can also qualify. He knows the cost to the club Financially if Utd were to not qualify and he loves the champs league, wants to win it 3,4,5 and so on times. Shit he didn’t even risk Lindegard for gods sake. Sir Alex would win the league with any of the top 5 – 6 teams. He’d win the lot with Shittys budget. And I’m cerain he’d get Fulham, West Brom and dare I say Wigan into the top 8
Come on surly you are winding someone up.
I have supported ManU since 1999 and never miss a game if its on the telly, but i can see it all falling to bits just lately. Especially some of the ‘home grown’ players that are being signed up for relative peanuts on the off chance they might come good. I admit some actually do play with the Fergie spirit, but on the whole the majority are merely mediocre players. I know times are hard at OT , but where is this supposed ‘war chest’ of over £200 M we were promised. Surely £40 m or spent on a world class mid fielder would have been the better buy rather than £20M on an unproved goalkeeper who, buy the way, is gradually getting to be a by-word for whoops. As i said in my post, i am standing up for the truth even if it does hurt.
You’re not standing up for the “truth” You’re standing up for your sort of truth. As for De gea, no doubts he will prove everyone wrong. If you don’t believe in that signing, then you don’t believe in Sir Alex Ferguson’s judgment. Too many armchair fans these days for my liking. Stick to giving opinions. But don’t for one minute, think you know better than a genius like Fergie. If you propose to do so, you lose all credibility. Sorry, that truth will hurt.
Whats falling to bits we are 2nd in the league, 5 points behind Shitty who can buy anyone they want.
As for De Gea I can’t believe what you’re saying he improving with every game.
Your post is 1000 miles away from any truth and its utter nonsence.
MIDDYRED
You are a fucking cunt of the highest order, ‘supported’ United? You do not know what term means you fuck wit, do us a favor and piss off back to your shit hole you fake cunt….
Truth? Ya the truth is that you are a WUM, i.e. a cunt i.e. a hateful bastard and its United you fuck face not Man U
Why on earth are you guys giving this fuck bag the time of day with half decent responses? Just tell him to fuck off, fucking scum bag
MIDDYRED
How rude of me, did I say Fuck off? If not then fuck off
lol@Cedars … now, why don’t you tell us what you REALLY think! hahaha!
StatesideAussie
Hahahaha
@Cedars devil , from whatever country you live in, as i said THE TRUTH HURTS. For instance, why oh why has SAF got one of the worlds best strikers playing in a midfield holding position, when he is internationally recongnised as one of the worlds best strikers? Why, when Berbatov was the premierships top striker, did he suddenly drop him in favour of some little mexican (, ok, a decent poacher,) but then destroyed Berbatovs career by sticking him on the subs bench week in week out. (just look at him now ffs) Why, if it is true, has he not spent on a DECENT midfielder when he is supposed to have a ‘war chest’ of over £100m ? Whilst i do not profess to be a tactical genius or for that matter a financial genius, the facts seem to speak for themselves. Take it as you want , but if you cannot see as i do , the general demise of a once famous football club going down the pan then you you surely are looking at the world through red tinted glasses. I rest may case.
Surely you’ve got beer goggles on? General demise? wind it in lad. You don’t know what hard times are fella. Premiership generation fans have been spoiled rotten. Watching since 99 says it all to me. As i said in a previous post, a few years in the wilderness will sort the glory seekers from the hardcore. From Gods mouth!
Willie … yeah, it’s hard to escape the feeling that some of our fans have been spoilt rotten. It leads to the curse of unrealistic expectations. Pretty soon, if you’re not winning the PL every year, plus at least one other trophy, then you’re sliding down a hill of shit and it’s time to change everything — sack the world’s most successful manager, offload the players and go out into the market with a blank check. Fuck me!
MIddyred – If things are that bad then why is our youth team winning game after game? The future is bright son. FA CUp Youth winners bulging with talent. The defence started last night with the next batch. a 4-0 hammering. Its the long game pal, not the here and now with Fergie. Ha. Since 99. Wow you really have been fucking spoilt.
Furthermore cunts like you would have jumped ship back in 95. Won fuck all and sold three of our “stars” only to replace them with “shit kids”. You would have been foaming at the mouth. What was your attitude between 03-06? Fergie losing it and all that bollocks? That man at 70 is still as sharp as fuck . Just listen to his interviews. He knows every detail from every game, even 20 years on. The man is building his next side right infront of you and you are too fucking blind or ignorant to see it. How fucking dare we not win the title EVERY SINGLE YEAR. Mug.
StatesideAussie – Cheers mate. Really saddens me, that some United fans would like to see the back of Sir Alex Ferguson. Yes, we can be critical of his formations and selections, but wanting him out, cos City are winning a few games? I ain’t having that. As Cedars says though, maybe we should serve these type of fans. Ungrateful, doesn’t begin to tell the story.
My biggest nightmare isn’t that our great club might not win the PL this year. Or that we might fail to win it for 2 or 3 years running. I don’t have nightmares about SAF retiring. Or about who his replacement might be. Nor do I have nightmares about our ownership. Or players leaving. Or losing to Barcelona again. Nor even that Shitty might temporarily aspire to our podium, as other pretenders like the rent boys and the arse have done before them.
My biggest nightmare is that the club will end up on the management merry-go-round where there’s a gaffer being sacked and a new one appointed after every “poor run” of a half-dozen matches. That’s what scares me the most, because it leads to a “spiral of failure”, where you can’t build success because you have no stability, and you don’t have stability because everything always fails. Failure leading to chaos and instability, which lead you back to failure, around and around in a shit-storm of doom.
And that’s where the attitude of cunts like middyred leads to, with their stupid combination of “instant gratification” + “impatience” +”every year must be better than the last”.
Anf you know what? That’s the same attitude that got us into this economic mess too, with fucking “portfolio managers” and investment bankers and chief executives and shareholders who are never satisfied with steady profit, always got to make more and got to do it NOW to satisfy their insatiable greed, even if the dumbest fucking moron on the planet knows that endless year-on-year growth is a fucking impossibility, and that the pursuit of it can only lead to disaster.
Rant over. I’ll be out of town today and won’t catch the Villa match until tonight. I hope we do well and win. I hope that when I come back here I won’t have to read any more pig’s swill from cunts like middyred.