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Fergie: I Want Nani To Stay

With just 18 months remaining on his current deal, rumours have circulated that Nani will be sold this summer. Confirming the signing of Wilf Zaha last month did nothing to help the rumours.

United have offered Nani a new deal but the player doesn’t believe it represents what he’s worth, with Ashley Young on a bigger contract.

The club were keen to sell Nani last summer but he didn’t want to leave, so demanded unrealistic salaries from prospective clubs.

Ferguson, as usual in this type of situation, has put all the pressure on the player.

“We are definitely prepared to keep him,” said the United manager. “There is no doubt about that. He is one of the best match-winners in the game and I’m including the whole of Europe. David Gill has been speaking to his agent for quite a few weeks now. It is entirely up to the boy himself. He’s got a year-and-a-half left. I would prefer to keep him. I think with Nani he wants to be guaranteed first-team football, but he can guarantee that. His performance the other night can guarantee that. We are trying our best because he is such a match-winning player.”






 

90 Comments

  1. covyder@malaysia says:

    Lets keep everybody for now shall we!!!…

  2. wayne says:

    In other words start showing up every week

  3. akanemo says:

    First? Nani needs to stay!

  4. Shabz the Mancunian says:

    we are not guaranteed that zaha would be a succes so we should def keep him to maintain the squads depth.

  5. wazza says:

    Nani back on track!!!
    fergie u are right. We need him still.
    one of the finest.

  6. FletchTHEMAN says:

    All this transfer talk just dilutes from our objective. We are in with a shout for the league and 2 major pieces of silverware and shouldn’t be wasting our time on what ifs.

    We have always had lads who needed and deserved more playing time.
    Teddy Sheringham v Solskjaer, Ruud vs Saha, Berbatov v Owen, come to mind as lads who simmered when on the bench and well deserved their minutes when they played.
    Clearly Nani needs more game time, but is bloody frustrating to watch still after 6 seasons and 211 odd appearances.

    While Nani is flavor of the week after Mondays impressive outing. I can tell you there were plenty in my section of the stand who were a bit frustrated with his play….. up until the 72nd minute that is.

    Funny how success papers over loads of sour grapes.
    Let’s get ourselves though to June and decide who is surplus to requirements.
    My bet, if we get a couple more trophies tucked away, it will be pretty obvious who stays or doesn’t.

  7. Costas says:

    It’s obvious United aren’t looking to make an improved offer. It’s also obvious that Nani won’t settle for it while he’s in his prime and he can go make more money elsewhere. So as much as Fergie wishes for Nani to extend his contract, one of the two parties has to take a step backwards. To be honest, I am leaning towards Nani’s side on this. Young’s contract set the bar high, like it or not. Nani’s been making less than that for 6 years. Can’t expect him to continue to do so.

  8. Adz_henney says:

    Judging by nanis celebration, he seems happy to remain at united. No other top club will want him only way is down from man utd .

  9. slim says:

    Wait wait what. Young eans a fatter pay check than Nani? Thats just fucking wrong
    Pisses me off too because nani is clearly the superior player and has been with United much longer.
    Dont really lije SAF much when he gets “involved” with contracts.
    Bloody ashley young!!! He better score a match winning goal for a title decider or im firmly putting him in the david bellion shoes. Fucking piss take

  10. samuel - united WE stand says:

    The arrival of zaha, an inexperienced player with no guarantees that he’ll make it and two direct but limited wingers in young and valencia, united clearly can afford to get rid of “flavour of the month” as clearly, he’s only performed within that constraint of time. In my view, only barca’s contingent of players and ronaldo supposedly turn up “every week” then again players are robots, aren’t they? I mean familiarity with their most effective position, confidence e.t.c play no part in how a player performs.

  11. WeAreUnited says:

    @samuel

    on point again with youur last point. And people you should realise that player with the flavour of ROnaldo, Nani, RObben, RIbery, Di Maria and now we will have Zaha WILL frustrate you now and then, cauase they are risk takers, can’t you get that.

    We all realsie that it hasn’t been Nani’s season, but which winger has been like Valencia and Nani who were back to back player of the season. Wingers have been bad this season, For me onyl Young has been ver ygood, when we know that that’s his limit. And a good limit it is. Other than that, Giggsy has been good also, but Valencia and Nani have been below par.

    Now when we are getting one of our assets back, people think it’s a bad thing? anyway.

    OFFTOPIC

    Tunnicliffe to Barnsley on loan, great news, now we have Petrucci, Tunni, , Henriquez Macheda and Keane on loans, possible first team players. peace.

  12. Marq says:

    Not Young’s fault if he is earning more. The question you have to ask is why are they not offering Nani more? There are things we don’t know, but surely its between the board and the agent.

    As for the play time, like Sir Alex said, the management dont decide, the player does, by putting in performances. No player has the right to demand play time, if you are not happy, you can pack your bags and go

  13. kanchelskis says:

    @slim

    Not a match-winning goal, but here’s a reminder of his potential for tekkers, from the Reading game.

    http://i.minus.com/iudv4WPxomtN8.gif

    ;-)

  14. samuel - united WE stand says:

    If nani leaves, fergie better gets the pay cheque out and buy a player of equal quality, the impact of selling a quality and unpredictable player will show. Valencia has already been marked out of 90% of his game time this season and he has shown NO adaptability to combat this and i don’t blame him, he’s just not technically strong enough. Same applies to young, although he can be adaptable. I think if united are left with these two then the club will have diminish the use of regular wing play or united’s attack will become uninventive and stale, zaha will need time to settle and is a risk, i think consequences will be felt down the line.

  15. wayne says:

    Don’t see what Young’s contract has anything to do with it,I’ve personally never seen what he’s being paid published but even if he is making more so what? Means he’s making more than a lot of players but they seem to be honoring their contracts.Carrick was making 80 k a week don’t know what his new contact is but that meant Nani was making more than him didn’t see Carrick whining and complaining.At 90 to 100k per week Nani is making more than a lot of Utd first team but his contribution towards the end of last season and all of this has being pretty well non existent
    Seems to me first team football and a huge jump in wages should be based on performance not what a player thinks he’s worth

  16. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Nani is on less because his contract is 4 years old and just coming up for discussion.

    Word on the street is he is on £45K/week and is being offered £130K/week.
    Young has a 5 year contract in the neighborhood of £130K/week, so this would bring both players up to the post Rooney blow up in wages. There are likely to be more add ons for Nani as well as he has more of media presence in Portugal and globally.

    The stumbling block is NOT supposed to be about money but that he wants more game time. Hard for any manager to be tied to that. So it’s down to if he signs or doesn’t.

    One site values Nani at €27m, I would take that in a minute if the player isn’t happy!

  17. WeAreUnited says:

    BTW

    why are we so concerned what the yearn.

    They are employesr adn we are supporters, if it was up to me I wouldn’t pay them 10k a week, doctors deserve that. But thi is the business and when you want to keep your best players on the team, 1 win trophies 2 pay them the money

    Ask Arsene Wenger about that. But I also agree with @marq about what SAF said and Nani knows that well, it’s not his first season. Play well like against Reading and you earn it. Nani was a starter at the beginnign of the season and played badly, then deservely got into the bench.

    Now he’s comign back agter 15 games and 3 months and making his mark, so he’s FIGHTING for his place, don’t you see thayt? and because of that SAF has spoked, when was the last time SAF spoke abotu Nani good? When Nani palyed badly and was unhappy, SAF was quiet, now Nani’s back, SAF speaks well about him, so he’s satisfied.

    It’s up to the boy SAF’s quote.

  18. WeAreUnited says:

    TYPOS, I’m in a hurry. SORRY!

  19. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Like i said, no player should be giving guaranteed playing time, hunger is what drives united and nani will have to show that but he does get the brunt of blames and gets the axe far quicker than most of the players in that squad, he’s having to try hard to prove himself yet and yet again which is ridiculous reallly because he probably feels he could join a league in which flair and quality isn’t made out to be “showboating”. No one knows the contract sitiation regardless of how the dailyfail play it out, we’ll soon find out what next for the portuguese and if it’s arriverderrci then that it is.

  20. FletchTHEMAN says:

    As I mentioned before, The club has more to worry about than Nani.

    Sir Alex’s contract is up this summer as well.
    As are Rio, Giggs and Scholes.

    So is it Woody or Gill that going to negotiate those deals? Don’t have much love for Gill, but he didn’t let Fergie down did he. Credit were due I suppose.

  21. kanchelskis says:

    “I think with Nani he wants to be guaranteed first-team football, but he can guarantee that.”

    Perfect from Fergie. That’s the key. Nani needs to show the strength of character to persevere and keep Young or Valencia, and maybe even Kagawa out of the team.

    That said, Fergie needs to prove that it is actually in the player’s hands. Nani won the game for us on Monday, and should certainly start tomorrow. If he doesn’t, he’ll rightly wonder exactly what he has to do to get a start.

  22. FletchTHEMAN says:

    In other news:
    ManUtd.com just revealed that Ryan Tunnicliffe is off on loan to Barnsley for 1 month.
    He will be eligible to play against City in the FACup tie next month.

    Good Experience for the lad. He’s someone we need to focus on for the future.
    Gibson + Fletcher in one on current evidence. Well one can hope!

    Get in Ryan!

  23. wayne says:

    Fletch Nani signed a new contract in 2010 and is making between 90 to 100k a week when he went public this last summer wanting more he was less than 2 yrs into a 4 year deal

  24. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Wayne, Cheers for that. Didn’t update my spread sheet. :roll:

  25. FletchTHEMAN says:

    My info is that Nani is still managed by Jorge Mendez and his outfit Gestifute

    Mendez also manages Ronaldo and Bebe,
    For my money Mendez owes us one after both those deals. ;) :lol:

  26. giggs11 says:

    Fergie: SO DO I!!! SO – SIGN HIM ON cause he (quite simply!) IS SPECIAL!

  27. wayne says:

    This making the rounds pretty interesting

    http://sportingpreview.com/football2012-4/2012705.php

  28. AlphaRS says:

    SAF fell out with Nani ever since he lost the ball in the dying seconds against Chelsea in the Capital One Cup. A lot of people on the blog have criticised Nani, and admittedly some of it has been fair criticism.

    But when was the last time you saw a United winger do this? Ronaldo?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGjtJet4eTA

    As one person said on this blog. The Theatre of Dreams, not The Factory of Efficiency.

  29. AlphaRS says:

    And here’s another one for good measure.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzaP1zvMdxU

  30. FletchTHEMAN says:

    AlphaRS Good on ya son, good videos. But reminds one of the diving as well.
    But credit to the lad, the diving has been reduced over the last couple of years and yet he does more to get us free kicks than many.

    Really love the clip of Nani v Hart.
    Lad almost single handedly got us the Shield that year….

  31. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Kanchelskis – you balanced it out right with that comment, it works both ways.

  32. AlphaRS says:

    @FletchTHEMAN
    Thanks mate. I remember the diving of both Nani and Ronaldo. But as you say the diving has reduced as time has gone on. Some stunning tricks and skills from Nani on those clips though. It’s been a very long time since I’ve seen any United player do what he has done in those links. Ronaldo maybe? Some of those goals he scored were amazing. Remember Nani score the winning goal against City in the Charity Shield.
    He offers something different to any other player at United and if he leaves he will just get a free role in another team and will thrive.

  33. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Cheers RS, Love Nani on an “ON” day. Sadly, he is still a selfish player and it cost us in the Chelsea game this year.

    Some lad is posting that Nani’s 31assists in the league since 09 is the most of any player.

    Something to think about as well. Don’t keep assist data myself. Make what you like of that stat.

  34. In David We Trust says:

    FletchTHEMAN – my problem with nani is? he lacks the intensity of all great wingers, very moody player, if things are not going his way he is very limited, cannot get the ball, going down easily, and cannot beat the man, and decisions become more and more stupid. He still feels like a lightweight in the team, talented, but very unreliable. Players like beckham giggs ronaldo, talented wingers, but men. Nani is still not a man, he is a boy that has not grown up, and until that day arrives, he will never make it at united

  35. King Eric says:

    Nnai didn’t cost us the Chelsea game. There was a catalogue of errors that night.

  36. In David We Trust says:

    Costas – I wont be surprised if united do make a move for ronaldo, since they cannot agree terms with nani. With the financial fair rules coming into play, we may is well save the wages for ronaldo, if united are trying to put a financial package in place, all rumors, but I cannot see united giving nani 130k a week, when he is a very unreliable, I do not see united wasting money there. I would move nani on, has I feel he is just like berbatov now, cannot be reliable for the big games, and playing less and less. and with him being 26, I do not see improvement with him. We need him to perform, but he is not performing on a level that warrants a 130k pay-rise, that would be bad business from a united perspective

  37. red joey says:

    indavidwetrust
    great comment mate i totally agree. nani is extremely talented, he just needs to learn to make the right decisions on a more consistent basis

  38. kel says:

    Nani one of the best winger. Come on, sign it now.

  39. kel says:

    @Costas

    Agreed!

  40. FletchTHEMAN says:

    King Eric, For me Nani cost us at the end, when Hazard equalized in the 94TH FREAKING MINUTE! after team had killed itself to stay in front for the entire game.

    .

    .

    .

    Guess you are a Nani apologist then! HA Cheers

    Can we agree that he is a frustrating player at times. Can’t imagine that that isn’t a fairly apt summation.

  41. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Speaking of apologists (and no disrespect to King Eric on this score)

    But what exactly are we supposed to make of the pathetic posts from “Admin”, back again on the blog after being fronted by Scott for a couple matches.

    Some of these arn’t even proper blogs because you can’t even comment on them.
    This one, titled “United have the chance to widen the gap at the top” is so pathetic that it even suggests that Fabio could face us tomorrow.

    Give me strength!

  42. Sushi says:

    @Fletch. Spot on was just about to say that first article is a joke cisse left on loan so did that granero guy I have no idea who wrote it

  43. slim says:

    Have mercy. Nani unreliablei he’s not worth a new contract. I bet youngs stellar performance is why he is on higher wages than nani. Fucking piss take. I have no clue how he gets into the national side but its England so mo surprises there. The same fuckwits who say rio is past it and wont give carrickhino a look in.
    That singular fact (salary disparity between young and nani) alone pisses me off to no end. Nani is almost one of us. 6 years. I dont know the exact details and im surre nani vould scale back but FFS hd earn less than young? Whats next jones getting a payrise to match roomey’s ?

    My dislike of this whole situation and young as a united player is evident. Till this day i seriously dont get why the boss went for him (guess thats why he is the boss and has a knighthood)
    Maybe i’ll see better from him next year- not holding my breath but so far, fucking underwhelming.
    Scored some good goals but if thats all thats needed we’d have kept gibson on our books.
    Fuck why did ravel have to turn out to be such a fuck up.

  44. slim says:

    Hurts to say this as i dont like spurs much- good club with proud supporters but id take lennon over young any day. Shame he’s injury prone. He’s a dimunitive version of valencia and doesnt dally too much.
    Tony v got to get that out of his game, maybe get the no 7 on the wall for a couple of years
    Did it with becks. Ronnie didnt get it immediately. Had to earn it.
    Fuck i need a game badly. My favourite manc is doing the business and living the dream. Been following the wellbred son for years and boy it feels good

  45. Lee Martins Winner says:

    Re Nani contract issue

    One thought I have is timescale. He has 18 months left on his contract. For me this situation will be sorted in the summer. Either Nani signs whats on the table or we sell him. This cannot turn into a free transfer in the summer of 14.

    I have said on other threads that we should keep him, bit as SAF has said its up to the player. If he signs I am happy, if he leaves and we get a decent fee, I am happy. I am not happy if he leaves on a free. This would mean we would have no say on who he joins and that could be a Prem Rival. I am sure Arsenal, City or Chelsea (even the dippers) would love to have him.

  46. In David We Trust says:

    slim – young aint asking for 130K a week, and unlike nani, young can be called upon to put in a shift for the team. And oh yes, who assisted rooney for the first goal against shitty, and should have scored the third goal against shitty when it was offside, yea young really is shit isnt he, you should question the fact nani, this so called great united player, still cannot get in the side ahead of young, shows how poor nani has become since he tailed off at the start of the 2011/12 season. Just face the fact, nani has not produced week in week out, he is still a boy, and not a man.

  47. Dela says:

    As per usual, Fergie is dead right, if Nani wants first team football then he needs to be the one who makes that happen. Fergie can’t pick him all the time if his performances are subpar. As for the money side of things, I’m a bit surprised Young is on a better contract given that Nani was an outstanding player for us in some of our seasons… I think he topped the table for assists in 10/11 when we won the league last? Young is a great player as well though when he’s on top form.

    But ye, take the manager’s advice Luis, and pick yourself!

  48. NBI Red Onion says:

    If Nani is getting less than Young I can see why he is pissed. He deserves what Young is on, in fact I would say he has been worth more to us that Young. If he has been offered that then fine, he can decide, but to offer him less than Young would be a mistake.

  49. NBI Red Onion says:

    That said United may be offering him a deal on image rights that take his earning to Young’s level or higher, who the hell knows, maybe this is why Gill resigned, he could not believe Glazers would pay Young more.

  50. NBI Red Onion says:

    If it is correct that Young is paid £130k a week, then I can understand why the Glazers are always in bloody debt, he is a £80k a week player, MAX.

  51. Redninja says:

    Haha nani a boy at his age guise he never be a man

  52. NBI Red Onion says:

    Nani, Young (as a freebie), Valencia and De Gea plus 5p and VAT will be exchanged for Ronnie this summer.

    This ends all debating points for fans. We get Ronnie back, win everything. Job done. Mark my words.

    This won’t happen.

  53. NBI Red Onion says:

    I think Nani needs a psychologist, seriously, he has never recovered from being compared to Ronnie and his head is all over the place sometimes. He has a lot of responsibility, supporting his family and extended family who are very poor, he has complained of always dreading the phone because its one problem after the next. Plus a high maintenance girlfriend and time ticking on his career. Someone needs to sit him down and get him some perspective and teach him to relax mentally, he is always tense and self concious, when he talks he is painfully shy. Not saying he has it hard, but of all United players he is the most complex and anxious looking, I think if he relaxed he would improve, I predict a huge improvement in his game when he is over 30 and more mature and calmer.

    He and Ronnie don’t get on any more either after falling out over Portugal.

  54. NBI Red Onion says:

    Don’t forget alot of professional footballers suffer depression.

  55. NBI Red Onion says:

    Just read that QPR/betting article, yeah watery.

    Come on Scott, come and write something for us to ponder. What are your views on how we set up for RM at home?

  56. In David We Trust says:

    Now if young is on 130k then I seriusly worry for who negotiated that deal

  57. WeAreUnited says:

    My onyl concern in this discussion is that SAF thinks Nani s amongst the best in Europe, that’s enough for me.

    Now it’s up to Nani, to show up again liek he used to do for 3 seasons by scoring and assisstin until this one and earn his place. If he wants to play for us he will sign the contract.

    But if any of you seriously think that being 15matches out and sidelined for 3 months is easy, and that Nani is not fighting to get back again, then think twice.

    He’s fighting for his gametime and place, so respect that. HE fought it once and will do it again. It’s up to him.

  58. Marq says:

    Someone said Lennon over Young? That is hilarious

    Once again, Young has nothing to do with Nani’s situation. Yes Nani has much more potential than Young, but if Sir Alex constantly picks Young over Nani, surely there is some reason to it that some “fans” don’t see, or refuse to see.

    If the board, and Sir Alex for that matter, thinks that Nani is worth more than Young, he will be offered that amount, if he isn’t getting it, there must be a reason to it. And for me, the reason is simple, he hasn’t earned it yet. He plays a good 30mins against Reading and he is worth everything? I don’t think so. Young has already put in better performances against Chelsea & City this season. So if Nani wants the money, he’d better earn it, in training to get the place, and in game to get the money

    But if the problem is the demand of guaranteed game time, that is totally different. There must be no room for player power. If Hernandez hasn’t said a word about not playing, nobody else in the team can

  59. Dazbomber says:

    Hoping Nani can play regularly until the end of the season and help us win trophies , he has the skill he does things other players Carn’t do let’s hope he comes good.

  60. samuel - united WE stand says:

    looks like some of us would like to give the impression of knowing more about nani’s private life than we would imagine, it’s never held him back from being a top player. oh dear…

  61. samuel - united WE stand says:

    how can one player cost a team that shipped 5 goals at stamford bridge? oh dear…

  62. WeAreUnited says:

    “It will be good to see Ji again,” admitted Welbeck. “We’ve seen him a couple of times as he came to a few of the London games and I’ve seen him at the team hotel once or twice. So it’s good that he’s not been a stranger to us. So, whenever I see him, it’s all good and the same with Fabio. He’s been back at Carrington a few times so it’s nice to see him too.”

    Great to see, when ex-players love the club :) Ji Sung Park the unsung hero who’s name we sung :P

  63. TeeElPee says:

    Just a thought, but if Fergie was as patient with Nani as he was with Young this season, Nani would probably have 10 goals and 10 assists by now.

  64. AlphaRS says:

    @WeAreUnited
    I’m hoping the United faithful show their appreciation by singing a few songs for Park tomorrow at QPR. That boy put plenty of shifts in for United. Love that kid.

  65. AlphaRS says:

    @samuel – united WE stand
    Plenty of mistakes in that game led to United conceding 5 goals against The Renties. But Nani should have taken that ball in to the corner and United would have been home and dry. Decision making and all that. I hope he gets a run in the team. All this defensive winger shiz is doing my head in. Yes it’s part of the game but we seem to have been doing far too much of it recently.

  66. AlphaRS says:

    @Marq
    Hell I’d pick you over Young. No way that boy is good enough to wear a United shirt.
    At the beginning when he banged in 2 goals against Arsenal last season I started to change my mind about him but I don’t think he has done much since. People talk about Nani on her being inconsistant but Young has been consistantly poor.

  67. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Good news. Rooney trained with the squad and was on the bus to London.

  68. WeAreUnited says:

    @AlphaRS

    about that goal, that was supposedly Nani’s fault.

    I remember and I know we have discussd it here also, I know that Nani lost the ball even though at that time I didn’t even remembered, because after that it was Hernandez later on offside, because I think we won the ball back and instead of keeping the balll, I think Tunnicliffe or someone else tried to pass the ball to Chicha who was offside.

    Then Chelsea got the ball and attacked us, then scored after severeal defensive mistakes, our defensivve duo was Wootton and Keane, who btw did really well apart from some mistakes, and M.Keane gets a good praise from me for thtat performance, I saw him very promising.

    Unless someone proves me wrong, I know it wasn’t Nani that started their attack. Maybe I remember it wrong, I hope someone has pics or something liek that about the “incident” that led SAF bashign Nani and many badwagoneers also.

    peace.

  69. belfast red. says:

    I guess from this statement nani will be starting tomorrow… More of the same from the last game and he might be worthy of a payrise… Like Sir Alex has said its up to him…

  70. wayne says:

    Well if Utd are serious about making a bid to get Ronnie back and with the addition of Zaha something will give next season.Listening to talksport driving home so La Liga expert said it’d never happen but i’m not so sure.There definitely seems to be a impasse with Ronnie’s contract whether he’s refusing to sign or Madrid haven’t offered,all new contracts fall under the new Spanish tax laws it’s a increase of about 30% which is considerable and has to be taken into account.
    Utd are the biggest club by far when it comes to fan base and sponsors so Ronnie wouldn’t be losing anything in worldwide recognition and if Utd are brokering a deal to use one of the sponsors to pay Ronnie’s wages would give them a edge over Madrid.
    My thoughts on Nani, Utd have made him a offer and i think their going to hold firm if he doesn’t accept it he’ll be gone in the summer.Nani really fucked this up by going about it the wrong way,like i’ve said before Utd are very good at extending contracts with players who show the right attitude,he should’ve shown up at the beginning of the season worked hard and negotiated in private instead he had to go public in the summer after coming off a poor second half of last season.

  71. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Alphars – if we are picking scapegoats then we would have to add the talented michael keane and wooton, give both a rollicking. At the end of the day, it’s not as simple as a player losing possession that results in a goal, there are always several incidents like midfielders not sensing danger and closing opposition down.or.defenders not reading danger. I know played a part and on that night, i lambasted him for losing the ball but to place all the blame is ridiculous. He does tend to over-elaborate and constantly wants to entertain, this has cost him and he needs to cut that out because if he was more basic, he would avoid such situation.

    Let’s be honest, the castigating of nani has more to do with personal grudges than footballing one, he won’t win every fan’s eulogy. I think he can still stay longer at united, hopefully some compromise can be found and he can stay but the other side is, he could yet leave and genuinely don’t see any of the other 2 wingers having that unpredictable technical ability to make up for him, only zaha has that potential and craft to bring flair but he is potential and with that, patience will be needed.

  72. WeAreUnited says:

    @wayne

    your sentence about Nani was the first time I agree with you. It’s Nani who’s fault it is all along, like you and many know here, I support the lad 110% cause I really think that he’s a world beater and we have seen that. But he messed things up, he should have known that. But bare with me and read the comment, also others also.

    Firstly , He played a good last season, not great, but good with 8 goals and 10 assists, and was one of the best wingers with stats, only Silva and Valencia were better than him.

    Then He was exellent at Euro’s, and deservedly was in the starting eleven at the beginning of the season, but it just didn’t work out, cause his mind wasn’t with us.
    I knwo that that’s the thing that bothers many of you, but I think he felt, that he’s not loved here, because of the negotiations and his FORM dipped. And he’s not the only one this season.

    The difference is between Nani and other wingers is money, and then came the infamous Chelsea game where he was accused for nothing ( in my opinion), that led his form dip totally.
    Then he got injured aswell, so it hasn’t been a season Nani or many of us expected from him.

    But now he’s a very strong man and has come slowly back to his best, and is showing signs of improvement, maybe the contract-talk that SAF mentioned is leading into a good way and now Nani feel he’s loved again. You never now what happens behind closed doors, so it’s speculations.

    If he continues being the GREAT Nani we know and he’s willing to low some expectations for money and accepts the deal, well it’s only good for him and us,

    cause he’s like SAF said “The boy has an incredible talent for winning matches. He’s one of the best match-winners in the game, and I include the whole of Europe in that.”

  73. WeAreUnited says:

    And when I say feels loved I mean appreciated and recognised for the performances they put with more money, cause it’s all down the money, no matter if your name is Nani,. Rooney or ROnaldo.

    Just ask Arsene Wenger and Arsenal, the difference is, We Are ManUtd and players will take a cut off or think twice before they leave, cause liek Anderson said, from here it’s only Real Madrid or Barcelona and in my mind everyone can’t play for them.

    So they better stay to a big club and achieve something.

  74. DreadedRed says:

    Well done wayne. You’ve been saying all along that Nani won’t get what he wants by theatrics, he must earn it by performing consistently well. SAF unsurprisingly agrees.

    It doesn’t get much clearer than: “It is entirely up to the boy himself. He’s got a year-and-a-half left. I would prefer to keep him. I think with Nani he wants to be guaranteed first-team football, but he can guarantee that. His performance the other night can guarantee that.”

    Nani is not leaving. Most clubs never win anything, and hardly any regularly win trophies of consequence. We do, SAF does, Nani has, and we likely will continue to contest. Now that SAF has put his public faith in Nani’s ability, he can stop fucking around and sign the contract. Shouldn’t take long, I suggest.

  75. DreadedRed says:

    RVP has scored 23 goals in 23 starts. Carrick says: “We knew he was a top player because we played against him. But playing with him and seeing him in training, he’s better than I thought he was. To make such an impact at this club straight away speaks volumes, not only about how good he is but about his attitude, personality and character.”

    “It is a huge bar here and I think for each player who comes through the doors at United, when you sign you embrace what is going on and the philosophy of the club. The respect that all the lads have for the club, even the likes of Scholesy and Giggsy, is incredible within the players. That’s down to the continuity of the squad and the philosophy and application of everyone with that amazing desire to win.”

    Earth to Nani: Are you reading me?

  76. Redhot Concepts says:

    Lennon over Young??? Just WTF!! The one thing tts amazin is the name!
    Just speed, no flair! Very predictable! Ashley has got more in his store!

    Nani, get one over Ronnie pls! Screw e contract for now! Prove to e world portugal is not a one man army!

  77. DreadedRed says:

    Mark Ogden’s claiming that Rio is to get a testimonial this summer, whether he stays or not.
    Can’t see it happening if he leaves. It is moot anyway, because he won’t leave.

  78. belfast red. says:

    Off topic ive heard and seen a few things about Ronaldo,maybe coming back to United. I dont know what to make of it. But im weary of news like that. I wouldn’t put it past mourino to let something slip out like that, just to distract everyone from the main fact. And that being, until we beat them and we are through to the nxt round ronaldo is our adversary! If we are lucky we might have S.A.F round for another 3 to 5 year’s. And as things stand if we manage to beat madrid we have a great chance to get the Fourth! I dont write much on this as im a total tecnophobe and use my phone. But my point is. As im sure ev1 else knows. I think the Ronnie thing could be mind games on a whole new level. Either ways the Reds of the Republik are guna beat the Royals of Madrid! :o

  79. Marq says:

    @AlphaRS

    Well, apparently Sir Alex rates Young, so that is good enough for me. If Young wasnt good enough, he would already be off like Bebe

  80. samuel - united WE stand says:

    To be fair, bebe is only on loan and will hooefully return, whether he makes it or not will depend on how much improvement he’s made on loan. i don’t see the relevance of bringing him into it.

  81. Lee Martins Winner says:

    Game day!

    Lets concentrate, work hard and move 15 points clear!

    UNITED!

  82. Marq says:

    @samuel

    They came in around the same time, one is starting big games, one is not around, albeit just for a period. That was the basis of comparison on current ability. As for potential, that is a different story. Like I mentioned somewhere before, Bebe is really improving tremendously, putting in a few MotM performances in a decent league, so all hope is that he comes back and make a name for himself. I want him to make it, and I am in no way putting him down on that comparison, not like some “supporters” who think they know better than Sir Alex and decides that certain players are not good enough.

  83. iced earth says:

    Harry Redknapp

    “I don’t think he’s being critical, he’s being truthful,” he said. “Rio losing a yard of pace probably makes him as quick as any centre-half in the country.

    “He’s a fantastic player. A top player since he was 17 really. He was so quick, lightning quick.

    “If Alex thinks he’s lost a yard that will just bring him a closer [to everyone else].

  84. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Marq – fair enough and i agree regarding bebe. This wingers debate has got to be the most intense on ROM, kitchen sinks flying everywhere.

  85. DreadedRed says:

    Good one Marq, supporting our young player should surely be natural to a supporter.

    It’s not of course, as many who consider themselves to be supporters, are only in it for themselves. They enjoy attacking the fabric of our Club, and excitedly demean our own at any chance they get. They claim it’s their right, proving their selfishness.

    Who knows how far Bebe will go in his career. A lot further than many/most supporters could be expected to guess, no doubt. I’m hopeful that he will be a late bloomer. He was seeded so late in the season, making his progress path incomparable to any other players we have had. Hope springs eternal.

  86. matthewf6223 says:

    I think it’s unfair of Fergie to come out and say that he wants Nani to stay to be honest – he’s only made 4 or 5 starts all season despite the fact Valencia is arguably having his worst season in United colours and the fact that Young’s been injured for a couple of months of the season. With Zaha (who I sincerely hope will get significantly more than 4 starts!) coming in I find it difficult to see how Nani will be accommodated and given enough opportunity to make a valuable enough contribution to make it worthwhile him staying.

    As we’ve seen countless times, Nani is a class player on his day (most recently seen against Reading), but he hasn’t been able to produce his best form on a consistent basis…or at times hasn’t been given the opportunity to do so due to Fergie’s preference of the Valencia-Young combination.

    I guess my point is that if I was Nani I’d probably leave the club in the summer – he’s had a good long while with United and he now has the opportunity to sign for a club and play week in-week out or to sit on the bench for the majority of the time at United and get a cameo appearance here or there. If Zaha fulfils his potential with us he’s going to go from strength to strength and if that’s the case Nani will find himself increasingly marginalised…as we’ve seen Fergie’s had enough trouble fitting 3 wingers into the team and giving them equal opportunities – It isn’t going to get any better trying to juggle 4!

  87. WeAreUnited says:

    @mathew

    good post mate, I also think, if SAF is ready to drop Valencia for Nani and give Nani that right spot no matter what and just trust him day in day out, then Nani should stay.

    OF course he has to show tat he’s the better one, but folks seem to forget that Nani is outplayed mostly because we wanted 2 great wingers to the game, and because Valencia is not capable playign o nthe left, Nani is sacrificed there. But nobody gets this.

    IF SAF doesn’t play hi mahead of Valencia, and Nani is not willing to play on the left and fight there, well it’s up to the boy, even though it’s one of the biggest mistakes if we let him go, but there’s always the other side of the coin. Maybe this has dragged so long now, that Nani should go and we could move on, because I bet my ass he will do great wherever he plays, just look what he has done for us.

    peace.

  88. DreadedRed says:

    matthewf6223

    How is it unfair of Fergie to say that he wants Nani to stay? Should he lie?
    Should he just refuse to speak about it?

    Nani was the one who brought the topic to the media. They brought it to Fergie. He replied. Of course, Nani and his agent were effecting a contract negotiation ploy by grumbling discontentedly in the press. Hardly conducive to amicable barter, yet Fergies response is admirably open and positive. He has opened the door and welcomed Nani to remain part of our drive for success.

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