Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken about his plans to keep Javier Hernandez and Federico Macheda at Manchester United next season, which suggests the likes of Danny Welbeck and Tom Cleverley will be loaned out.
“I need to keep Macheda and Hernandez,” said Ferguson. “There was a lot of purpose in the way they played their football. To play for a club like this is not just about talent. You need something else and they’ve got something else. I am pleased with that.”
One thing I noticed we were lacking at times last season was pace. Only when Nani start hitting great form and Antonio Valencia become settled did we see how much of an impact the speed Cristiano Ronaldo possessed had in our ability to attack.
Hernandez was the fastest player at the World Cup and Ferguson thinks his style can combine well with Wayne Rooney.
“If we are talking about a combination with Wayne, I think we would need to adjust a bit. They are similar types of players,” he added. “We will assess Hernandez really well and make sure we can bring him to good consistent form. There are still little things to do but not a great deal. One he gets used to our training I think he will be OK.”
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Please also keep cleverley
Hm, this probably means that Cleverley, Welbeck and Diouf will go out on loan.
i know it may still be a bit early to write him off, but i feel diouf is the next manucho. don’t get me wrong, i see talent in him, but he seems too far behind our other young strikers in terms of talent and the fact he’s a few years older than them. we would be good to loan him to a PL club and sell him next summer.
I understand it because they have 7 recognised strikers but diouf will have to be very special out on loan… if he is to stand a chance at old trafford
Im pleased for chicharito im really looking forward for him.
But Diouf seems to be an average player like manucho was, Fergie shouldnt keep him.
Cleverley will need games so another season on loan wont be a bad thing. I agree with SP about Diouf, I’ve not seen anything to blow me away yet so maybe a season at a club where he gets a chance to build experience of English football would be what he needs.
are united playing tonight????
Diouf, Cleverley and Wellbeck on loan, all to PL clubs…Will be given a chance to show if they can handle the PL before SAF decides their future….And Diouf looks completely different to Manucho. He’ll make it, although it might be crowded at Utd….
Diouf and Obertan need to go on loan. Not convinced they’ll make it here tbh, they need to work shitloads and are still very very raw. Welbeck and Cleverley should stay. Many have said they won’t get many games here if they stay next season but you have to take into account form and possible injuries to Owen, Berba and Wayne. Also are we really going to start Rooney in every game next season? Against weaker oppositions in the League, in the first round of the CC and FA Cup? No. There is no need, these cup games are for the likes of Welbeck and Cleverley to come in and impress. If they do well then Fergie will put them on the bench. Hopefully Fergie makes the right decision.
hey PPL check this article out, this is one reason why the US are idiots when it comes too football.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1298732/Manchester-United-hated-soccer-team-world-say-Americans.html
so united are the most hated team at no 10 in america, because the way the won the CL in 99, yea despite the fact united were missing keane and scholes, despite the fact united played week in week out playing open attacking flamboyant football that always set your hearts racing, who united showed no fear taking games to everyone, yea hate a team fielding in midfield keane scholes bechkham giggs, and throwing yorke and cole upfront, hey they can bring on solkjaer and sheringham. Oh yea bayern were so defensive they took all the fun out of football by being so damn boring, the americans still no shit about football well half of them do idiots, how anyone can hate the 1999 united team are plain idiots
Cleverly is NOT ready.
Beside that moment of brilliance, he lost the ball too many times (as he has in all previews games), and simplly does not have the vision to get out tight spaces. He is not ready yet to command the midfield, but should get more playing time.
If I had to pick between him and Gibbo going out on loan, I would should Gibbo, tho.
obertan should also be given a chance……
he is a very dynamic player…
and what about owen you guys seem to forget him he’s so unlucky with those injuries but i honestly think we’ll be ok in front with rooney berba chicha macheda and owen it’s all about keeping the possession of the ball
@RTNK – the reason probably is that united may be the only football team they know.
Article on Ozil:
http://www.givemefootball.com/premier-league/premier-league-giants-prepare-bid-for-german-ace
@fze
Oberton should be loaned out! are u serious mate.I think he has been one of the most impressive guys in the american tour.Happy that you are not uniteds manager otherwise you would have also sent the da silva brothers to loan.I think diouf is the one who should be loaned out and i have faith in diouf.Cheers
obertan really has skills quick feet just like ronaldo so we should definetely keep him and we don’t have too much wingers
Good news there staying. What about Luke Young turning down the mighty Liverpoo lol.
Keep Cleverley
we have to groom nani…….
he is the best………….
he can be better than christiano ronaldo…..
I think we should loan out Wayne Rooney to a PL-team this season. He really has to bring some consitency to his game, he was utter shit all last season.
Also, we should sell Hernandez. He has no future at United, clearly.
And SAF should be fired
@sankgupt I completely agree. Unlikely to many in the US argue with
fight till you die spirit that is United. More likely to have issues with pretty
boys buying their success, aka Chelsie. United were the only team that
most in the pole could think of, says it all.
which continents hasnt Cleverley scored on in pre season
Wishful thinking but I hope Cleverly stays and is told to be Scholesy’s shadow for the next 12 months.
He should learn from the best.
As for Americans hating United…
For what it’s worth…there is a disgusting amount of Liverpool fans and Arsenal Fans where I live. Not sure why it’s so… but anyways….
“and Ferguson thinks his style can combine well with Wayne Rooney.
“If we are talking about a combination with Wayne, I think we would need to adjust a bit. They are similar types of players,” he added.”
WTF? This quote would indicate the exact opposite of what you said about him combining well with Rooney. It’s quite clear to me that Fergie intends to use Hernandez with Berbatov in a lot of the cup games and when Rooney needs a rest. He also might be tempted to use him ahead of Berbatov in a 4-5-1 if Rooney is injured. I’d be surprised to see him start with Rooney much at all.
@ GHTT Cleverly hasn’t scored in Antarctica. LOL – Good news about Kiko and Hernandez. Especially Kiko. The difference between him and Welbeck is that Welbeck likes to hold onto the ball a lot more and needs to learn when to pass and when to hold on. Kiko is more smash and grab.
It’s sad to see so many good strikers in so few spots. Welbeck seemed really impressive in pre-season, i would hate to see him loaned. But I guess him and Diouf are going. Cleverley shows he can be amazing for us, but not yet in my opinion. He need more experience and i think a loan would be really good for the kid. Tie them up in long term deals, and loan them.
Chicharito is really impressive, oh my god what a kid! Even more than Macheda so far (if you don’t count THAT goal), and will be a monumental star. And when he plays with Berbatov, we get the CONTINENTAL and the MONUMENTAL! lol
@costas i just read some spanish papers are saying ozil could be already signed
for utd
@Ash, Obertan’s final ball is quite rubbish. It’s something he needs to work on. Yes he’s skillful, he’s quick, but what matters most is his delivery into the box, which is not great, from what I have seen last season and on this tour. Also he’ll struggle to get some games with the likes of Valencia, Nani, Park and Giggs ahead of him, especially so when Nani and Valencia hit form, as their consistent productivity will keep him out of the team for a while. Whereas Welbeck/Macheda/Hernandez could get a few games as Rooney/Berba may not hit form straight away/undoubtdly hit a dry patch and their chances will come from this. I don’t understand why you brought the Da Silva’s into this, why would you think I would send them on loan if I was the manager? What a bizarre thing to say.
wayne – Very good, i think a few fell in there lol.
Chicharito is the final nail in the coffin for Berbatov.
Pair rooney with hernandez. berbatov probably 3rd/4th choice. not good enough for high tempo game like yesterday. had he started that game we would not play like we did.
@UNITED4life
I agree.
@Wayne
Do you have a link for the spainish papers where it’s said ozil has signed?
Busby way blog are saying a close friend of Ozil has said he’ll join United by the end of the transfer window, time will tell.
@Fze123
dont’t know what u’ve been watching but Obertans final ball is not as bad as you’re trying to make out. at least its not as bad as nani was at the start of last season, hell since nani has been at the club. If anything its Wellbeck that should go on loan.
Also why does everyone think Cleverly should go on loan somewhere, the guy is clearly talented. i mean fletcher didn’t show what he was capable of until a few seasons ago, but clearly SAF saw something in him, same goes for Rafael and Fabio. One could argue that they should go on loan somewhere to smoothen out the rough edges, but we all know SAF and his team wants to be responsible for that, so i dont see why Clerverly shouldn’t be given the same opportunity. It may look like we have numbers in midfield but that is far from the case. Hargo and Ando injured. Fletcher,Carrick and scholes being the only genuine midfielders. We need all the help we can get and the guy looks hungry
@keanesmagichat its on http://www.sport.uk but if you go to newsnow under man utd and to the right under top stories last 24 hrs its under a heading german media report utd to make formal bid
When Anderson back and Cleverley already showing his talent, the solution for our midfield problem might be in our hands.
The Ozil rumors seem to be more lively than anything else we have heard about United this summer. As long as Fergie doesn’t deny it, I will maintain my hope, lol.
Costas – You stay negative mate, it works for ya lol.
@willierednut
I can’t be negative all the time. I will turn into an emo, lol.
Costas – You wouldn’t want that to happen lol.
No, plus, I wouldn’t want to steal AIG’s negative thunder.
Costas – I don’t know, he’s been more positive lately, maybe he’s seen the light.
I’ve noticed willie. It’s probably due to the summer, lol. When it comes to me and AIG, we get a lot more cautious once the season begins.
Cleverly is too young to stay. A year away doesn’t mean he won’t have a future in the shirt.
Macheda’s lack of pace is disturbing, but … I quite enjoy his swagger. His nose for goal is quite nice, just worry about that pace issue.
surely showed some pace for the opener.. i think he has pace but just cba to use it most times… but he worked hard yesterday.. and obertan to go out on loan?
what did nani do yesterday that was better than obertan?
obertan has that killer pace that can unlock any defence.. yes he has issues but which players doesnt.. and he laid out a killer pass into the box which macheda should have tapped in.. obertan will be a star
I would love to see a 100m race between Valencia and Hernandez, who do people think would win? Could Evra and Obertan compete?
Evra would certainly compete with Valencia. Hernandez is lightning. Obertan doesn’t seem to want to show it as much. But Macheda…it seems like he should be much much faster than he is. I don’t get it.
Obertan deserves a run in the side. I hope he gets a start in the CC. He looked elegant last night until he was hurt. He’ll find it tough competing with Vanenzia, Nani, Welbeck for a place but he ought to get the chance. Don’t loan him, SAF!
I think it’s clearly obvious that cleverly has got real talent but the problem is that he us way too inexperienced and gives the ball away way too often. I think he should go out on loan to a PL team and come back to us for keeps the year after.
With diouf I agree with most people and say 110% he should go on loan, he hasn’t got anywhere near as much talent as either hernandez or macheda not to mantion the fact that we already have 3 senior strikers, Rooney, Berbatov( should be kept as sub) and Owen.
Whereas for Welbeck I just don’t see all the fuss, I don’t think he is good enough for a big team like Manchester United and I don’t think he will ever make it big with us. The real positive thing about h is the fact that he is quite tall but that’s about it. But if u really feel he has what it takes then loan him out but don’t sell him.
Gibson is already established, Macheda is already established, hernandez is the new big hit signing, smalling seems promising and obertan has got amazing ability with his pace tricks. And his vision, all that need to be sorted is the end ball which to be fair to him isn’t actually as bad as people make out to be.
@fze
Obertans final ball is rubbish reaaly.I dont think so.If you didnt see the match between wolfsburg and united where owen scored a hattrick,obertan driblled past the defender and gave a good pass to owen which owen scored.Mate obertan has only been a year here.You need to give him chance.
Everyone should understand we are building a squad so we should give them chances.
@moscow is in heaven.berba is here to stay and he might be on the starting 11 because SAF said chicharito and rooney are similar players.
@moscow is my heaven.berba is here to stay and he might be on the starting 11 because SAF said chicharito and rooney are similar players.
Ronaldo’s final ball was far worse in his first 2 seasons. Poor crossing + bad timing + countless unnecessary stepovers. That was one of the reasons RvN got really pissed off with Ronaldo.
But Ronaldo started coming good in the 3rd season, and we saw his best in the 4th and 5th.
Nani’s final ball is still not as consistent, but he is starting to get it more often than not. He should be getting better this season.
The same goes for Obertan. He’ll need time to gel with the team and of course, get bored with trying to be exciting.
I would say give him one season of 30-50% matches, and he’ll really cause a selection headache for SAF. I’d much rather see Obertan on the flanks than Welbeck.
Ronaldo improved his all round play because he was given a long run in the team. This is something Fergie won’t give to Obertan just yet, next season, with Valencia and Nani in the team. He’ll probably be given the odd start and a few sub appearances, but that won’t be enough.That’s why it would be better for him to go on loan, to a mid-table PL club, where he can play consistently, improve and get used to prem football. I want him to do well, just because I would like to see him go on loan, doesn’t mean I am not giving him a chance. He won’t get time to express himself much in this current team because of a reason already mentioned. It’s not like I am writing him off, ffs, I want him to get a bit of experience elsewhere and improve his decision making, his final ball, etc.
fze
I know obbie wont get that much chance but we dont have that many wingers.It would be wrong if we again depend on giggs to do the work.We already have sold one winger in tosic.Suppose nani or valenci gets injured then who would you play as winger JOHN OSHEA.We dont need to loan obertan or even cleverly,They can learn a lot from scholsey and giggs.I think diouf would be the one who would be loaned out.
These two have got a really bright future in front of them. But I think they will be a bit part players as far as BPL is concerned, but will start the Cup matches (CC and FA Cup).
Obertan has to stay with us. He is capable of that bit of magic that is needed in tight games.
If we don’t sign any Midfielder then I would like to see Cleverly stay
Regarding the loan players…is the loan deadline the same as the transfer deadline? and can the loaned players be called back at ANYTIME? any help with my ignorance pls?
please keep cleverly. he is the new scholesy to me.
Please please keep Cleverly.. he will be good use this season! we need Attacking midfielder , he is the exciting young player who can fit in that row!
We do not have that sort of offensive player apart from Scholes in younger days.. please keep him!
Obertan too ! Cleverly and Obertan to stay!!
Cleverly seems likely to be sent out. We have a lot of midfielders in line in front of him, and I doubt he’ll get much playing time except in the Carling Cup – IMO he’ll develop much better if he plays regularly instead of the odd reserve/CC games. He might get a run in the squad next season (2011/2012) if Giggs & Scholes decide to hang up their boots.
And as for United being one of the most hated teams in the US – no surprise there. When I moved to the States, I was hugely disappointed by the number of Chelsea shirts I saw on kids. And at the pub I frequent to watch matches, almost all are Chelsea supporters – probably something to do with their league wins in the 2000s… most even have the nerve to refer to our recent league wins as “buying success” and are glad that “order has been restored to the PL”. Actual quotes, mind you. The Chelsea mind-scrubbers must have worked overtime across the pond!
Yer A fucking waster Ferguson, yeve got nae fucking idea. A fitbae man. Yer aff yer heid mate.
Goonanodaethat.
I see yer getting my texts again you big Scottish Taggart, there’s been a Murder, aye we wiz robbed last season. Thats done ye auld waste of space. Get yer heid out o Tribal football and Fancast and other Goal. com. I telt you that Hernandez was the fastest cunt on the playing field.During the world cup. och yeah were probably pisht, no takin Texts fae yer Auld muckers.
Mind yer aye on the Ball Fergie, you saved the Glazer with your scouting system a few Bob.
Pst Dont send out Danny to Sunderland to sit behind Bent and play for them in the Carling cup etc. you get my point!