This time last season Arsenal were top of the table, two points ahead of Manchester United. They had lead from the top all season, brushing off the criticis with every passing month. When they five points clear half way through February, people were wondering if they were going to end up with egg on their face. Every one believed that sooner or later Arsenal’s inexperience would get the better of them, but with just a couple of months remaining, they had a great advantage.
Liverpool are in the same position this season, their fans really believing this will be their year, after close to two decades of disappointment.
Just as we trailed Arsenal by 5 points last season, it is 7 points we need to catch up on Liverpool, although we do have two games in hand. We have been to the grounds of all the teams who finished in the top ten last season, including all of the other teams in the current top six, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Aston Villa and Everton, meaning all our most difficult games are behind us. The first half of the season was Liverpool’s chance to really put us under pressure, but if we were to win our games in hand, they have just 1 point on us… and our fixtures are easier.
“There’s no doubt that in the second half of the season they will get nervous,” said Ferguson. “With the experience we’ve got, having won a couple of titles in the past couple of years especially, it helps you. There’s no doubt about that. They’re going into the unknown, and if you make mistakes, then you get punished.”
oh sorry, you’re even more of an idiot than I previously thought because you intersperse your argument with some random half-baked story about you going to Germany and not singing anti-Germany chants…what’s that got to do with us singing a chant about Argentina which is a positive chant and sung by them also? you sound like Sarah Palin or something mate, ‘don’t sing their songs because you’re English and not one of them’…forget about the country mate, it’s the world that wants to worry with nationalist half-wits like you running around telling everyone they can’t sing another country’s chant because ‘they will be pissing their pants’…no, they won’t, why would they be laughing? surely, it would be a matter of pride for them that their chant was being sung in England, crawl back into your little hole mate.
oh and the manu thing doesn’t bother us, it’s more of an indictment against the person saying it and their lack of footballing knowledge because no football pan says ManU so I was actually helping you out but fill your boots mate
football fan
SERIOUS QUESTION THAT I’D WOULD LIKE ANSWERED:
WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES MAN UTD “THE BIGGEST CLUB IN THE WORLD”..???
Fanbase.
Johnny The Fox, when you said you design programmes, I assumed you were the computer type program writer, not some twat who colours in pictures and edits an interview for a match day programme. Still, my bad, I misread what you said. Its just you talk such tripe, its hard to keep concentrating and decipher what you’re trying to say.
But what do ye scousers think this site is? A questions and answers session?
‘what makes Man Utd the biggest club in the world?’, ‘why do United fans chant Argentina?’, have ye no where better to be?
Do us all a favour and go rob a purse or something… YSB
Jake you talk utter shit mate. You honestly need to read what I said you tool.
I know the Argentina thing is positive. To me country comes first that doesn’t make me an anything. If I was a nationalist anything I would
be singing the Nazi song not slagging people off who do it you tit. I didn’t say you could or couldn’t anything I simply asked why you did. The answer given was you don’t like England… I repeat a lot of people would find that at the very least f***ing strange. A football fan likes football, England have a national side stands to reason you would follow them we are English after all. Same for whoever you are and wherever your from.
We have a difference of opinion, yours is different to mine but that doesn’t make you my intellectual superior you arrogant twat (bit of a pattern forming there).
Tell me Mr self proclaimed football know it all when was the last time you heard a foreign clubs supporters sing England or anything remotely like it despite the English footballing greats that have played within thier leagues or any other nation for that matter? Let me answer that for you… you haven’t. You never have because no one else does it. They don’t because it’s f***ing weird.
There’s an intense footballing rivalry between the two nations, which you touched on yourself not to mention geopolitical undertones.
Your a cod piece chap with a blinkered, bullshit point of view of everything and anything that doesn’t start with the word Manchester.
Rangers fans?
Also mate this is a United site, not an England one.
I’m the twat with 2 degrees, had my own company in Manchester 1990 and used to do the publicity & marketing photo-shoots for GIO GOI.
You are on here a lot, should you be working or are you on the dole.??
My excuse is I’m ahead of schedule and I’m trying to amuse myself by
antagonising you lot!!!
….you keep wittering on mate but having the mental capacity of a chicken nugget is inhibiting you from working anything out so I reckon you should give it a break…United are intl., we don’t give a toss about England because national boundaries don’t mean anything to the World champions haha….other clubs abroad don’t do it? no, because they’re nearly all inherently racist, top Italian teams, Spanish teams, German teams…Maybe we should have a new slogan ‘Manchester United, breaking down political boundaries in the name of world peace’….England this, England that, couldn’t care less mate
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I have
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Didn’t ask for your life story you boring fart. Anyone who starts spouting qualifications is usually rattled but I’ll give you the benefit and assume you just have a complex. On the dole… f*** me that’s original. I love the way you plebs talk down to us like Manchester was some glittering, majestic marvel. It is in fact a shit hole like most built up areas of the UK. Just as much crime, just as much misery, just as f***ing miserable. Luckily for me I live outside. Manage a small but successful IT business and
I’m not ahead of schedule, no need, I’m actually being paid and handsomely whilst sitting here doing this. Aint life great?
Your still an arrogant prick but your not alone on here.
There are racists every where unfortunately and only a mug wouldn’t know that. Oh! sorry or an arrogant, blinkered prick who can’t see past the snout in the middle of his face. You Muppets sing Argentina because your Muppets. No one else does it because they aren’t f***ing inherently stupid. ”Join hands every one and sing along our Argentinean brothers and sisters will love us for it”. You sad gits.
World champions ha! ha! whoopty f***ing doo!!! your right, who does really give a f*** about that? Your behind in terms of the Champions League and behind in terms of League titles. By the looks of it come the end of this season you still will be.
Don’t give a f*** about the country of your birth… You sad plebs will always walk alone.
hahahaha, you’ve read the wrong post……
Oh sorry I read twat and assumed that was you.
Bynites, you absolute moron, you just went on a rant at the other scouser twat thats posting here!!!! Thats fucking priceless!!!
You’re like the rest of the low life scousers that come on here, you make a few points and try talk sense, and end up throwing a tirade of abuse. You, like your City, and your club, are pathetic…
Ahh man, Im still laughing at you ranting away at that other muppet, thats fucking brilliant…
Like I said I read twat and assumed it was Jake.
Nothing else in the post that relates to you lot then? ….. no ….. nothing at all? Very strange.
racists everywhere mate? you’re clueless…of course there are but France, Spain, Italy and Germany have much bigger social problems with racism as is reflected in their culture, politics, towns, football fans etc… South America is just as bad with the natives consistently marginalised in all forms of society into slums etc…you don’t know anything, it’s testament to the generally good workings of a multi-cultural, well-educated country like England that some football fans can sing Argentina without harbouring blind political hatred for them….and then there’s clueless little scouse muppets like yourself who believe England comes first (that’s the definition of a nationalist by the way) and we shouldn’t like other country’s or sing their chants because they’re bad people who will come back to get us one day… and congratulations on your ’small but successful I.T. business’ mate, I couldn’t be happier for you getting paid handsomely for doing this…what a div kid.
and I was being sarcastic about world peace but it must be hard for you to detect being a little scouse chicken nugget.
Brynites, we will always walk alone, fuck off dipper did you have your scarf in the air when you typed that?
and we aren’t behind in Champs leagues, you are…
Seriously lads, is there no scouser sites ye could go to and talk your shite???
Heres your PFO request…
Why do we hate the England national team?
Because its supporters (the sort of supporters who see that overrated, despicable racist media darling John Terry as the embodiment of the England) are mostly Little England-ers whose teams at league level do fuck all, explaining the need to sing anti-United songs and scapegoat United players when their national team inevitably fucks up. The only player in recent memory to have been scapegoated and not to have had United ties was Seaman in the 2002 World Cup and even then, some saw fit to try and blame Brasil’s “resurgence” on Beckham being a “pussy” and not going 100% into the tackle that led to Brasil’s equaliser.
Anything but admit that they and their players have believed the media-created hype around the notion that they are God’s gift to international football and had a divine right to win the tournament they just entered.
You talk about chants (and how you refrained from them – good on you); why does it always have to be the case that England fans have to resort to xenophobic/racist chants when the opposing team is winning?
Also, you talk of people pissing their pants, the Germans must have been rolling around in puddles in that case, after seeing the England fans blindly screaming at the top of their lungs “God Save The Queen”. Save a German – couldn’t get any better after hearing those pig-shit-thick racist cunts singing “Rather be a Paki than a Kraut”.
You say you think it’s fucking weird that English people don’t want to support the England national team, but fail to mention that it’s fucking weird that England fans go to Germany to take pictures at Nazi sites Sig Heil-ing after Hitler wanted to make Britain a graveyard.
Everything about the national team these days makes me sick to the stomach. The notion that a team comprising of the best talent in country might take on that of another country to see how they fare has been lost among media hype, (extreme at worst, overbearing at best) nationalist pride and a loss of footballing culture that would have fostered a genuinely cool idea like that.
You ask why we sing YCSYFEUYA, That boy Ronaldo, Steve McLaren’s still a Red, Ar-gen-tina etc.? It’s because we’ve had enough of what the national team represents. United has always been bigger than England, certainly now moreso than ever, and we make our feelings clear singing such chants.
Questioning our chanting of the song by simmering your disbelief down to national political differences between the two countries displays exactly the sort of single-mindedness we’re mocking by singing it. We know it grates the England fans and we love it.
Also, before we’re accused of trying to be some kind of hypocritical elitist movement romanticising an anti-national sentiment, you’d do well to remember that Liverpudlians, Geordies, Brummies etc. are part of the YCSYFEUYA movement, not just those in the Republik of Mancunia. We’re synonymous with it because we’re the ones who’ve stuck with it from the 70’s through ’til now, while others have, in the meantime, been swayed by the hype and bought into it, but the movement is now growing again and people whose dads/grandads once sung it on the terraces at various clubs around the country are seeing the light and are coming back onside.
Jake wtf are you talking about? Racists everywhere? your clueless… of course there are. I’m baffled, what the hell is that supposed to be? You make the same statement as me, then question it, then go on to agree with it.
France and Germany have a big problem with immigration more than anything. That isn’t racism.
Spain and Italy have a problem with racist fans that much I’ll give you but as I have already said racism is everywhere.
Who is it in South America that is marginalising these natives you speak of? That’s not racism that’s a social, political, geographical and above all a financial thing. It’s a reflection of much of the World in that there’s a massive divide between those who have and those that don’t and that doesn’t have anything to do with the colour of your skin.
Singing songs in Old Trafford doesn’t change the fact there’s racism there. Same for Manchester, The North and the remainder of the UK. Sorry but you haven’t built a utopia yet.
Blind, political, hatred, not liking other countries? I didn’t say I hated anybody…. I asked why you sing Argentina. The answer was you don’t follow your country. According to you only nationalists do that. So we will just have to lock up all those racist kids who attend the next under 21’s match at Wembley.
I lived most of my life in another country and guess what, it’s possible to support your own country and not be regarded a racist or a nationalist for doing so.
You want to sing Argentina for Tevez fine. Does beg the question why don’t you sing Portugal and so on.
There’s a rivalry between the two sides (England – Argentina) that’s been there for years. It doesn’t have to be dark and sinister it’s just a rivalry.
How open minded, peaceful, caring, loving and ultimately understanding would you be if a Liverpool fan stood in your stands with your fans and started to sing YNWA? You wouldn’t be. You would probably kick the living crap out of him and to be honest you would be perfectly within your rights to do so. The guy would be mad for doing it but that isn’t the point is it? The point is why would you kick his tits in. You would do it because it’s disrespectful to you and your club. There is a way of doing things and doing that isn’t the way.
That’s it… nothing to do with racism, nothing to do with nationalism. Simple inter personal, club rivalry, international rivalry. That’s why I think singing Argentina is weird and I’m sorry if you like it or not so do a lot of other people.
I’m not clueless or small or a Muppet for that matter. Oh or a chicken nugget Jake that’s a pretty crap put down by anyone’s standard. And you know what I mean about the Champions League, used to be called the European, same thing 5 and 2.
Stephen yes I was waving my flag if that’s how you would like to picture me. And no you f*** off you tit we have as much right to post on here as anyone.
Eaststand I don’t agree with everything you say but I accept and appreciate what is a rational, intelligent and well put post.
I don’t agree because I can’t. Thousands of young kids watch international football at both junior and full level. Thousands of adult football fans also follow the national side. Not all I will grant you but many aren’t nationalists they aren’t racist either. They simply wish to follow thier national side.
What your saying does make perfect sense but your still in the minority and I have to say this you probably always will be.
I questioned your statement….with a question mark…does it make sense now…i think you’ll find immigration problems and racism are directly proportional (that’s pretty consistent in history)…you keep saying that because we have racists in our country or at United we are exactly the same as everyone, it’s about political and popular culture, not individual or minority cases and there is clearly a difference between us and most foreign countries, esp. continental Europe…natives I speak of? …it’s called the indigenous population of South America which was displaced by the Hispanic settlers…there are massive slums all around South America which are full of the natives and it is a socio-economic problem like you say but clearly if the slums are full of just natives, it’s also racial, and I can assure you the hispanics are quite racist ….and no, I think I said nationalists put their country first…like you do….and said you did….i don’t because I don’t care, I sing Argentina because I don’t care if it offends some England fans…and we’ll never build a utopia with people like you around who jump on the first signs of a ‘foreign chant’ in our grounds and cry foul…and we sing viva Ronalo/John Terry which is a Portugal chant…so need to beg for the question…how can it be weird in a club game singing international chants? Are you so baffled that we can put national rivalries to one side so easily?…England’s not that important mate
and you keep blurring nationalist/racist…you are the nationalist who would put his country first…not a racist….a nationalist, two different things, never even called you a racist. I sarcastically wrote that singing other nations chants might help break down political boundaries and you came up with the ‘not so bright’ argument that because other countries don’t do it we must be wrong and my point was probably because they are all inherently racist…my gripe is with you scouser and your purile arguments against singing Argentina etc…. so stop trying to turn your pointless row around and shifting the debate onto kids watching a U21 England game….you’re an idiot who had a go at United fans singing Argentina in the name of national pride….now go away, take your new-found conciliation and tend to your successful I.T. company…
I have to agree with that last part; sadly, yes we probably will be in the minority, at least for as long as there is an English media willing to glorify (to almost demi-god levels) the talents of a national team whose parts are greater than its sum; at least for as long as there is a media that sees fit to capitalise on the Little England mentality that sweeps the nation in hysteria-like fashion, with titles like ‘Winker’, rather than address the actual reasons for failure (in that instance, taking an unproven 16 year-old might have been a good place to start).
You mention kids watching the side simply wanting their national team to win. True, but kids have a sense of innocence that their adult counterparts do not. Most are barely aware of national stereotypes of the opposing team, let alone the political and historical contexts involved.
You mention adults watching the side (it’s important to clarify at this point that supporting the national side isn’t an automatic precursor to racism), however, I’m sure you’ve noticed how even the normally sane and rational people get swept away with it all. This can be something as small as the St.George’s Flag meme that got completely out of hand, to blind hatred of non-English players for perceived misdemeanours. I have no problem with people who genuinely watch the England side with the desire to see how the best of England fare against the best of other countries, but then, they’re not the people the YCSYFEUYA chant is aimed at, as I explained in the post above. Sadly they’re the minority within the hardcore of English support.
We may be in the minority, but as I said, the movement is growing up and down the country. Funnily enough, even Jamie Carragher has joined us after that frankly ridiculous phone-in. He’s realised, along with the rest of us, that lending your talents to your country, only to be open to foolish criticism from such a bunch of ignorant thickos simply isn’t worth it and that club truly does rule over country.
Let me be clear, if I were a professional athlete, I would be proud to represent my country in any other sport. Yes, there are bandwagoners that bring the footballing over-the-top fervour to the party when we actually win something (see: Ashes 2005, RWC 2003), but it is at least an exception to the rule, thankfully.
This is a movement that only has legs within the realms of football, it would appear.
EastStand and Jake: absolutely bang on. Excellent posts!
For F@*K’s SAKE..!!!
This is Football we are talking about, our National Game,
not the Houses of Fking Parliament.
Now you can all put your encyclopedias and thesaurus’ away!!!
Whoo Hoo for multi Fking Cultural Society there is Racism and Nationalism throughout England but compared to other countries… sshhh we don’t like to speak out about it or admit it because we don’t like to offend!!!
That is why this country is going to the dogs and being sucked dry!!!
Without an England or the National Pride that I know my Grandparents fought for, there would be no Man Utd FC it probably would be
MANCHEST-ARIAN FC.
So as for RESPECT I would rather respect my Grandparents Generation FIRST over any Germans… and my Own Generation (WHO MAY HAVE HAD THEIR LEGS BLOWN OF IN THE FALKLANDS) over any Argentinians!!!
I’m NOT saying you have to hate these countries I would just rather NOT RISK OFFENDING MY FELLOW COUNTRYMEN WHO FOUGHT AND DIED over making the odd Argentinian or German etc. feel good on the pitch!!!
IF YOU DON’T AGREE WITH THIS IN YOUR HEARTS THEN YOU AIN’T F’KING ENGLISH …GO AND ASK YOUR GRANDPARENTS WHAT THEY THINK.!!!
LONG LIVE “ST. GEORGE & SCOUSER TOMMY!!!”
Eastbank another intelligent post.
Jake your just an idiot who argues for the sake of arguing. You make no sense at all and constantly contradict yourself.
The fact is your trying to label me as something, don’t know how to go about it, can’t justify your reasons for doing so and as normal go round and round in circles missing the blaringly obviouse. It’s you that has the issue with other people not me. People who live in another city about an hour down the Motorway let alone the other side of the World.
You hate Liverpudlians… you don’t have any other reason for doing so other than football, probably don’t even know any, which makes your argument floored and you a thick, pig ignorant, f***ing moron mate not me.
WELL SAID BRYNITES..!!!!
YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT SUMMED UP JAKE THERE.
YNWA.
never said I hate Liverpudlians….maybe you should go back and read….I dislike your argument because it’s pointless and without any decent analysis or intelligent thought…contradict myself? how have I done that? you don’t seem to be able to pinpoint an example….I’m a bit more rational than you mate who seems to take issue with another country’s chant being sung…you started all this having a go at us claiming other countries would ‘be pissing their pants’? so how am I going round in circles? I’m not on a Liverpool site having a go at Liverpool fans, one of my best mates is a Liverpool fan as well so disproves that speculation doesn’t it…give it a break mate, nearly every time you’ve made some new crazy argument, it’s been cut down because your not in full control of any of the facts…Johnny the Fox sums it all up aptly doesn’t he….
Brynites and Johnny the fox, ye made yer points, and are still hanging around here. Can you honestly answer me as to why the two are ye are still on this United website? Ye’ve thrown yer fair share of abuse (granted, ye got some, but what do scousers expect on a United site?), and you’ve more then worn out your ‘welcome’. Ye said yer piece, now its time to go I would of thought?
can I just say Jake’s argument makes perfect sense and well said Eaststand as well…why are you Liverpool fans on here arguin with us about our chants? seems a bit narrow-minded
Seems more hypocritical to me, with their Munich chants.
Johnny: “but compared to other countries”, what? Britain is in just as bad a situation as other countries regarding its far-right threat and there are plenty of people still willing to talk about it. FFS, there are still films being released dealing with the issue (funnily enough I watched ‘This is England’ in Liverpool while I was waiting for my passport in ‘07). Judging by that comment and the ones that follow it wouldn’t surprise me if you were part of the Daily Mail “it’s-PC-gone-mad” brigade.
As I’ve said before, I’m proud to be Mancunian and would happily represent England in any other sport. How dare you sit there and question my loyalty. My great-grandparents fought in both major wars, so you can stop with the little guilt-trip right there. What they were fighting for was the preservation of democratic values, not so idiots could go around decades later banging on about “Two World Wars” as if they’re the only major achievement in British cultural history. England and national pride is not limited to a WW-centric view, despite what Little Englanders like you would have us believe.
As for your Argentina chant comments: you just don’t get it, do you? After having written two massive posts explaining why, you still persist with the view that the chant is somehow a direct insult to those who fought in the Falklands. Read the post again, you’re exactly the sort of person the chant is aimed at, someone who lives in the past (although, should I really be surprised given your a Liverpool fan?) In any case, we’re nearly 30 years on and the two countries are at peace.
Why don’t you stop all your chants aimed at making your Spanish contingent feel welcome, given that Franco was part of Hitler’s axis of evil?
*puts down “thesaurus”*
Now fuck off you ‘dipper twat.
There, have I found your level you daft cunt?
“This Is England” is a fantastic film but unfortunately is set 30 years ago and a lot of that kind of “in yer face”, street level attitude has been repressed to behind closed doors.
And yes, PC HAS GONE MAD and it desperately needs to be addressed!!!
As for WWII…Yes they were fighting for Democratic Values (English Ones) but first and fore-mostly they were fighting to keep England English!!!
Ask your Grandparents and they will tell you they would rather IDIOTS LIKE ME decades later went around banging on about Two World Wars than the massive, ignorant, multi-cultural population not giving a f@ck about how they have the fortune of living here!
Your Argentina Chants ARE offensive to some ex soldiers… (regardless of who you pathetically think you are aiming them at) do you know anyone who served in the falklands? Have you asked them? (I have).
I said earlier I don’t suggest that we hate these countries but to just have RESPECT for our fellow countrymen of older generations!
Yes, we chant to make our Spanish contingent welcome but we sing our own songs about individuals on the field NOT copy a chant that is used as a national celebration by Argentinian and was used on News Reels whenever they sunk a British Ship!
Plus General Franco himself was part of the “Axis of Evil” yes… but I think you will find that Spain and Spanish people were Officially Neutral!!!
and DID NOT fight or kill any of our Grandparents!!!
By the way… nice Intelligent language to sign off with, I have obviously wound you up!
regards,
A Fully Paid-Up Member Of The British Legion For The Last 20 Years and Proud Little Englander..!!! JTF.
ps regardless of who finishes the season as Champions RAFA was still Right!
why is it still them and us for you Johnny? why haven’t you moved on? If people like you were in control we’d never get anywhere mate because we’d still be having a go at the fuckin French for the hundred years war…we are all humans mate, the average Argentinian doesn’t hate the English. ever been to Argentina? You talk about PC gone mad you daft hypocrite, by saying we can’t sing an Argentinian chant for fear of upsetting Falklands war veterans from 30 yrs ago you adhere to the exact PC brigade drivel you’ve just railed against…If it’s freedom of speech you want (and I agree) then you have to open it all up, not decide what you do and don’t want to hear you moron.. What is this England you think of anyway? Is it the Germanic Anglo-Saxons? the Norman Fench? The Irish, the Scots, Welsh? Arsene Wenger recently said he now feels English, he’s a British citizen…but is he not Brtitish in your eyes? we pretty much were all foreigners at some point in our family history mate so give it a fuckin break, as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn’t matter.
oh and two man teams don’t win premierships…better luck next time
Re JAKE:
Never get anywhere?…. Where exactly do you want us to get Jake?
I don’t hate Argentinians or French or Germans or even United Fans!!!
I have STATED ALREADY 3 TIMES that I don’t suggest we hate any of these countries but just RESPECT THE FEELINGS OF EX SERVICE MEN AND OUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN OF SUFFERED AND LOST LOVED ONES!
This is achieved by not acting like FANATICAL ARGENTINIANS acted
when British ships were sunk!!!
I seem to be a Daft Hypocrite in your eyes but there is a massive difference between “Political Correctness Gone Mad” and SIMPLE DECENCY TOWARDS ENGLISHMEN, unfortunately I will always put the latter first!
If you are oh, so, “we are all the same anglo saxon germanic celtic etc.” where do you draw the line, just go all the way back to we are all apes …eh?
Well, if you take that stance why don’t you break out of your tribe, your little “We are Mancunians and we stand together philosophy bubble”
cos’ its the same thing!
IT’S F@CKING TRIBAL MATE!!!
Now where exactly in this Glorious Country do you live..?
Central Manchester – Piccadilly / Deansgate
Salford..???
or perhaps Bury, Oldham or even further a field, maybe London..???
Do you live in an area where you are the
MAJORITY AND EVERYONE STILL SPEAKS THE QUEENS ENGLISH?
I’d lay money that you DO and that you AREN’T in the MINORITY!
To quote you Jake:
“as long as we still have the majority speaking English and the Queen is the head of state, the rest of the bollocks doesn’t matter”
seems to point to the fact that there is a part of you inside that agrees with me, because you are ok with everything as long as ENGLAND STILL FEELS ENGLISH.
Well I have some news for you mate we are infested, the seeds have been sown, so being over-run just probably hasn’t quite;
“REACHED A CINEMA NEAR YOU”! YET.
You are probably more of a “Little Englander” than myself you are just very naive in your safe little bubble!!!
Johnny The Fox – English Tribe!
yeah mate, Blackpool is a proper safe little bubble…the point is that I understand that people need national/tribal identity. But I don’t hate anybody because of what they are, Argentinian, German, Liverpool fan etc because that is an irrational standpoint…we all have the same thoughts etc so why not all try and get along…bit of banter yes but put all the history to one side because it’s irrelevant as regards human interaction in the present…I said English, not Queen’s English and my point about Queen being head of state was a bit sarcastic but I was meaning that it’s a symbol of ‘we know where we are’…Decency? You can sing Argentina at a football ground and still respect the actions of those that have gone before..There’s plenty of veterans who don’t harbour any ill-will towards modern Germans etc Like I said, I think everyone should be able to take a joke, whether that be about their race, football team, history or whatever safe in the knowledge it’s not malicious or discriminatory..History and time is fluid mate, migration has been a feature for thouands of years and it’s nature to fear the slightly unknown immigrants but In 50 years time it won’t be a problem as they are assimilated into culture in second and third generations making up the patchwork of Britain as has happened before and will happen again. The quicker you understand that it’s beneficial and that in time these people (a lot already are) will be as much a loyal part of British society as for instance 19th century Irish immigrants like my family have become, the quicker you’ll realise that it’s nothing new and it isn’t a problem.